Mystery Men (1999) - Underused Actresses, Super Villain Gangs & a Passing Romani Woman - That Aged Well

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm very pro recycling. I know, I very I'm very
you know, I'm aware of it at all times. Huh.
But I think I may have gone a little too far.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Because I'm not shocked. I'm just gonna preface whatever you're
about to say with I am not surprised.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was on a plane the other day. I was
flying back from LA from visiting my in laws to
flying back from LA, and you know, like the flight
attendants come through the aisles and they're like, can I
take your garbage? Can take your garbage? And take your garbage,
And so I was like throwing stuff away and I
picked up my soda can and I threw it into

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the garbage. And as I was throwing it, the flight
attendant went oh, and I thought that I was not
supposed to throw the recyclable in the garbage, and it
was too late. It was gone. And I went to
reach into the bag and the flood. It was like no, no, it's.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Fine, yeah, please don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
But the sheer panic that gripped me was like as
if the flight tendant had been like, no, buckle up,
we're going down.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
This plane is run on green energy and you have
just brought it down.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
This is your captain pushing Glaw speaking, and that's not
where that soda can went.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
This is your captain pushing glaw. Buckle up. Your whole
family's dead thanks to the idiot intend se.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Hey I'm Paul, and this is that aged.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well yesterday's pop culture.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Today it is July. We are in the We are
in the dog days of summer.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Sticky July. Sticky July what I like to call it
sticky July.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I know that there's a super villain in the Marble
universe called paste pot Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I really thought you were gonna say sticky July and
be like, you know what, Marvel, No, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Sticky July is Miranda July's nickname.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
What's paste pot Pete's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
He has, like a paste gun. Jesus Christ, I think
they realized that stupid. It was a certain point they
changed his name.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
At a certain point, the trapper or something. It continued
so long that they had to be like, hey, was
this a bad idea? Should we have maybe like left
this one on the cutting board? No, no, this is yeah,
I think so, Jesus Christ. You know, in brainstorms, when

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they're like there's no bad ideas, just like keep keep
them coming. Someone put that in there and everyone was like,
you know what, you have to leave this brainstorm.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You have to get out, you have to leave.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
You are trickling down on this brainstorm.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
We said, there are no bad ideas, and frankly, we
have to deal with the consequence.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
We're gonna institute a Doppler system in this brainstorm because
you have fucked this all up.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Aerka. We have five star iTunes reviews. Do you want
to read the first one?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Sure? Why do you want me to read the first
one and not the second one?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
No reason, no reason.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Our first very short, but I'm sure very lovely. Apple
review is from a m G E L two O
five three six.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
All right, am Jill. That sounds like a like a
battle bot in a futuristic yeah, futuristics movie.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, it's a battlebot pretending to be a person. Yello,
fellow humans. Uh well, this battlebot writes. I love the hosts.
They have great senses of humor. I just listened to
my first episode, John.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, it was great. They like me worked up?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, they do. Honestly, it's downhill from there, I m Jill,
that was a good episode. They continue, I'll be going
back and listening to older ones.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Fantastic. I hope you enjoy all of them as much
as you enjoyed Jaws. Yeah. We also have a review
from Look for the Love, and they write, you must
be an Angel Food. They write, longtime listener, first time reviewer.
I thoroughly enjoyed that that Age Well podcast, particularly when
they discuss a beloved movie or one I've never seen.
But never did I realize how therapeutic it could be.

(04:16):
I listened on election day ooh to escape distress, and
boy did they deliver with some like it hot.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm so glad.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yes, the Madonna slash Bakery mashup was yeah, oh that's
you must be an angel food. Ah oh, okay, got it,
got it, got it. The Madonna slash Bakery mashup was
creative and hysterical and had me crying from laughing so much.
You saved me a trip to the therapist, and now I
want to think of more cake related Madonna songs. Thank
you for doing what you do. I can't wait to

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see what comes next.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm really glad you enjoyed that riff because it.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Went on, It went on, but You know what's funny
about that it doesn't start until like eighty percent of
the way through the episode, but then it's the last
twenty percent of the episode. It was our sole focus.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's it's because we like the movie so much. We're like,
I have nothing interesting to say except I love this movie.
Let me just create this world where Madonna owns a bakery.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, you're forgetting Erica. We were. We were creating the
story of Johnny Paradise, who happened to sometimes have songs
about cake because remember he jumps out of cake at
the end. Oh and they just somehow because Madonna jumped
out of a cake and like a virgin, they there
seemed to be some kind of ven diagram converted between
the two, if you will.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, okay, well, now creating a new lord that Madonna,
miss Madonna. Luis Chaconi from Detroit, Michigan moves to Paris
to open a blangerie, a patisserie, and now her whole
world is at patisserie and she's just making treats that
are reminiscent of her music.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's okay. I like that. I like that too, Yeah, yeah,
I love that for her, and I love these reviews
for us. So look for the love mgel two zero five,
three zero six. If this is you, let us know
it's you, say I want to Tope, I would love
to send one off for you, Erica. What movie are
we talking about today? On this the third Monday in
July twenty twenty five, Today's.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Film is the nineteen ninety nine superhero comedy mystery Men.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Mystery Men was requested by Sarah, Jenny, Nancy, Michelle Shalne, Mikey, Heather, Mary,
Lana Another, Michelle, Melissa Austin, Sojo, se Ray Sydney, and
five star reviewer Marvelette three Gray. Lots of people, lots
of people.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Speak behind the curtain. This was I think our top film.
I think so the most requested film. Yeah, I am curious,
and look, I'm not coming for people here. I'm genuinely curious.
Let us know why did you hate this movie and
want us to rip into it? Did you love this
movie and hope we would love it too? Because we're
gonna do neither of those things. I think that we

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are just both deeply confused by the amount of love
and or hate coming for this movie.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, agreed. So mystery Men was written by Neil Cuthbert,
loosely based on Bob Burden's Flaming Carrot comics. It was
directed by Kinka Usher and stars Ben Stiller, Janine Garoffalo,
William H. Macy, Greg Kinnear, Hank Azaria, Kel, Mitchell, Claire
four Lani and Jeffrey Rush. I mean, the pedigree on

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this is high.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like we're not even mentioning fucking Tom Waits is in
this movie. Yeah, Tom fucking Waits. Isn't this like the
Eddie Izzard is in this movie. Like, the fucking pedigree
in this movie is impeccable, Absolutely impeccable. I am so
shocked by the final product. Jennifer Lewis is in this movie.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Jennifer Lewis insane the under You know, I can't even
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I can't even I know, I can't talk about it either.
I can't talk about it. I don't know that we've
done a movie with a better pedigree than this one
in our entire history, doing this show like there have
been others, There have been others with but this is
like top.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
To bottom, just like award winners.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Award winners, comedic superheroes.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Like Childhood Loves.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yes, like bangers. Not a single skip in this soundtrack,
in this in this actor soundtrack.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Jinny Garofalo has said that she is not a fan
of the final product. Quote, it was one of those
alleged blockbusters that was overbudgeted and overhyped. It went from
being a great script when it was sent to me
to being, in my opinion, a fairly mediocre non event.
But it was nice to get paid that much to
sit around. I have no idea what they were trying

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to do with the film, but they sure didn't accomplish it.
You know what, let's just end this episode right here.
I don't think Paul and I need to go any further.
Miss Garoffalo said it all.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Miss g read the film for film, But.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Honestly, she's I see no lies. And the thing is
she's not wrong. There's a fantastic there's a You could
tell that there was a script because to get this
many people on board, Yeah, there, the script must have
been incredible.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, and it just it didn't come together.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
It just does not gel in any way.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
The soou flea does not rise. Nope. Mystery men Erica
has a sixty percent critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and
a fifty seven percent audience score.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
That actually really tracks. I think so the fact that
because I feel that way about this movie, I'm like,
I see what they were going for. I want to
give it such an a for effort, like truly a
for effor, because no one's not doing the thing they're
supposed to be doing. The script has some great one liners.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
The plot is dumb but goofy, but like in the
best possible way.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
It reminds me of Austin Powers. If Austin Powers just
for some reason didn't work, like if the chemistry and
Austin Powers had been off, yeah, you would have gotten
this movie.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, that is an excellent This is like two sides
of the same quite Austin Powers was the successful version
of this. Yeah, and then there's this. There's and this
isn't as bad as like say an e venturo, which
is a similar genre but just goes way off the
rail long and I'm not even talking about not aging well,
although obviously it doesn't, but like that's just not funny. Yeah,
this is funny. It's not what it's meant to be.

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You can tell there was something this was meant to
be great.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, and it's like it's whiplash because it's so silly.
Like the comedy of the time was so not concerned
with like making sense, and it was more like I'm
gonna do a funny thing in this scene, and that's
what's going to make it funny. And so sometimes it works.
And like Ben Stiller is committing in this movie. I
have nothing against Ben Stiller. I don't get what's happening

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in this movie.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
So that is I'm gonna talk about that later. That
is a fault of the script. Yeah, I think because
I'll talk about it later. Can we get into the film.
If this movie had been made by the people who
did the State, Yeah, if this had been made by
that crew of people, I think it would have worked
a lot better. Yeah, because they understood like the assignment
when it comes to like big, massive group silliness. Yeah,

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this is just I don't know, maybe sometimes movies just
don't work. Yeah, there's there's there's almost no rhyme or
reason for it. There's just it has to be does
not happen a perfect blend of situations to come together
to create art, And it just was a miss on this,
which is why like the audience score being slightly lower
than the critical score. Makes total sense.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, And it makes sense too that for some people
it's gonna hit right, Like, I get it. I don't
think any I cannot point to one single thing in
this movie that I'm like that's bad.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, there's stuff that doesn't age so well, and there's
stuff that like I'm like, okay, I whatever, Like I
don't think that's funny. But it's not that it's bad.
It's not. It's not being done by unfunny people.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's just like, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel the same
and I think the problem is I want to like
it so bad totally, and I just I don't hate
it either. That's if it was the thing it was,
if it was an Aceventura, where I could just be like,
welcome up, I'm gonna burn this movie to the ground,
that'd be one thing. But honestly, I can't even.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Really do that. Yeah. Yeah, So when did you first
see it, Paul?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I saw this in the theater. This is so for me.
This is pitched right down the fucking middle for me,
like everyone in the cast, it's a comedy, it's weird,
it's wacky like I expected to love it. I went
in wanting to love this movie and I really didn't.
And the first time I saw it, what year did
this come out? Ninety nineteen, so I was probably like

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eighteen nineteen years old. I was like, booh, Yeah. I
was really hard on it because because it disappointed me
so much. Now I saw it for the second time yesterday,
and I'm giving it a lot more grace because I
think also a I'm older, and I'm like, fucking movies
are hard to make, man, like whatever, Yeah, it's fine,

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And also because I think my expectations were like rock Bottom.
I was expecting us to sit around here and being like,
let's burn us to the ground. And then I watched
it and I was like, no, there's some good stuff here.
I can't even be mad at it. Yeah, how about you?
When did you first see it?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I first saw it this week. I never I never
watched it. I actually meant to see it, and it
was one of those it flopped hard in theater, so
I think it was there for like three weeks and
I didn't get around to it, and then it faded
from my memory.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I probably went opening weekend without having read a single.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Review, so I watched it for the first time this week.
It is something that, like, I know the thing that
they're parodying very well, and it makes me wonder if
the people who wrote the movie didn't, because there's stuff
in it that I'm like, that's not quite right. You're

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not quite I know what you're trying to do, but
you're not doing it, Like you're missing obvious key points
here and stuff. And I wonder if, like I've never
read the comics that they're based on, but I wonder
if the translation from the comic book writer who I'm
sure got what they were parodying, to the screen from
the screenwriter who maybe wasn't as into comic books. I
don't know. This is purely conjecture, to be clear, but

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like the specific parodies don't make sense to me as
a comic book fan.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, okay, so as a non comic book like, as
a novice, what are the parodying? Is it X men?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's not. It's kind of a it's a mishmash of everything.
But like like the guy who becomes super strong when
he gets enraged, that's Hulk, Like like Captain Amazing, that's
like a Batman Superman mish mash of things.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So I did get Batman from that.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, for me, I think it would have worked better
if they had gotten super specific. If we're gonna if
we're gonna bring in the spleen, the guy who farts
all the time, what that is going to be a
parody of I don't know, Iceman or something, and it's
going to be about parodying Iceman.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Right, would have been funnier.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
And that, at least for me, would have been funnier.
This feels not pointed enough, I think.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
So.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
It kind of gets a little gray. It's it's wide
and flat. It's not like sharp and pointed.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, it doesn't get Jean Grace, Oh my god, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Thank you, thank you. That was so good. That was
so good, Erica. The tagline for Mystery Men was they're
not your average superheroes. Okay, I guess fits in right
with the movie.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I mean it does like you're right, because they are
in fact quite average. That's the joke. See, the joke
here is is that it's ironic because they are very average.
They're not even actually superheroes, so just people who think
they might have superpowers, you know how it's really fun
when you can dissect a joke like this, Let's continue,
let's let's go on, let's further dissect this.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
But then some of them do have superpowers and some
of them don't, and I can't tell which is which
I know?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Can I tell you? Kel Mitchell's thing I thought was
really funny until it became a real superpower, and then
it was a kind of a beautiful moment. I actually
really enjoyed kel Mitchell the like he tracked through the movie.
But like the idea of a teenage boy who just
no one pays attention to was funny to me. You
cast that now with like a like because of my
lived experience with a like fat teenage girl who's like, no, truly,

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I'm invisible. Watch as she goes into a store and
robs the store and no one sees her and then
walks out and she's like no, literally, no one sees me. Yeah,
Like that's funny, And like, as a black kid, like,
what is that experience and what are the versions of
that that they could have put into the Kell Mitchell
role to be like, no, really, I am invisible. That's
funny and then spoils like spoiler the character does eventually

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just become invisible and like, oh so it's not a
commentary on anything.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's just okay, okay, I.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I'm so confused. Do you want to read the iTunes synopsis?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sure? Ooh girl. The first line writes a check that.
Let me just tell you the expectations versus reality or
real in this Here is the iTunes synopsis. The hippest
cast in the history has united to become the funniest
superhero team ever. Ouch.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah ow ouch. That felt like a stubbing of the
toe at three am when you get to pay. That's
not like.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
This is that thing of like when someone's like, watch
me make this amazing shot. Yeah, and then they biffit
really hard. Okay, it continues. Ben Stiller, Janin Garoffalo Hankazaria,
William h Macy, Greg Kinnear, Jeffrey Rush, and Paul Rubins
joined forces in this wild, funny, and thoroughly original misadventure.

(17:29):
When Captain Amazing Champion Cities legendary superhero falls into the
hands of the evil madman Casanova Frankenstein and his disco
dancing henchmen, there's suddenly a chance for the aspiring superheroes
to show what they can do there. The Mystery Men,
a ragtag team of superhero wannabes featuring Mister Furious, whose

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power comes from his boundless rage. The Shoveler, a father
who shovels quote unquote better than anyone. The Blue Raja,
a fork flinging Alma's boy, the Bowler, who fights crime
with the help of her father's skull, This Spleen, whose
power is pure flatulence. Invisible Boy who's only invisible when

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no one's watching. And the Sphinx, a cliches viewing philosopher
with its outrageous adventure, incredible cast, and hip alternative humor
cuts off.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
It's just hot.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh my god, that's really good.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I went to three different sources to try to find
the rest of this sentence just stops no matter where
I go.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm so glad you had me read them, because I
I'm reading it for the first time and I was like, wait,
this is They went so hard. It's like way too hard.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Apple Movies is like character count limit, You're done, no more.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh good. This is a perfect encapsulation of this film. Honestly,
there doesn't need to be an actual synopsis. This is it. Yeah,
this is the perfect synopsis for this movie. That they
nailed it. There's such high expectations and so.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Little rewards, so little rewards, such sadly little reward. So
you're saying, no actual synopsis.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
This is the actual synopsis.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Never has a synopsis synopsized so well.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
So perfectly. It just runs on and on until it stops,
until it just.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Stops until it hits two hours, and it's like, Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Guess we're done.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I guess we're done.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Perfect no notes.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
All right, everyone, stick around, We will be right back.
We are going to take you through mystery Men after
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We open in Champion City. We see billboards in Ungut
stop the voice name. We see billboards and blimps emblazoned
with its greatest protector, Captain Amazing played by Greg Kaneer.
There's even an enormous statue of him standing up in
the city overlooking his domain. I will say this right now,
I'm gonna compliment this movie right off the bat. The

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set and production designers went ham it's so good. It's incredible, costumes, everything, everything.
We are about to go into what passes for a
retirement home and Champion City, and these people clearly dropped
acid and then worked for four weeks straight to create
this thing.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, I think true. Like you can see that it's
it's supposed to be a hybrid of Tokyo and New York. Yeah,
it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
So we zoom in on this retirement home. The residents
are in odd costumes, they're eating, they're drinking, they're dancing
to this kind of Eastern inspired It sounds like Indian music.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
The theme to this party is oriented. These old people
are doing some some.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Appropriation, Like a group of old white people are wearing these.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Lime neon green LeMay.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Turbans and like sashes. Yeah. I genuinely thought when this
started that these were the super criminals, that these were
the super villains, and there was gonna be it was
gonna be a joke about like old super villains I'm like, okay,
that there's there's stuff there. We can come up with
something here. No, these are just these are just old
home residents. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
The movie is actually fairly it doesn't tip into this
that much, which is surprising given what I just said
about it being set in what seems to be both
Asia and America.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
All at once.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Actually, there's that's interesting. We should talk about that a
little bit more because the cast is all Americans.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, there's not even any Asian Americans in it.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, and so I'm curious as to like, was there
not a conversation about the fact that there it looks
like these people are living in like half Tokyo half
New York.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Right. So, the Red Eye Gang, led by Big Red
played I already Lang, bursts in to reak havoc and
steal everything from jewelry to false eyes. Before they can
get too far, they are confronted by three amateur superheroes,
Mister Furious, who's enhanced strength comes from his rage, played

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by Ben Stiller. Okay, I'm going to geek out for
a minute. I don't understand what the point of this
character is. Is it that he has no actual superpowers, or
is it that he's actually very mild mannered, so he
doesn't get angry that often, and he's constantly trying to
activate his superpowers by pretending he's angry when he's not,
which is why he doesn't ever have super strength.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
So up until the last second of the film, the
latter okay, no, sorry, it's the former.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
He's a man who's very angry, doesn't have any superpowers,
so he has decided that his innate anger is like
his he starts at a tend in every situation. That's
his superpower. He's going to bring that to the table.
Let's just assume that that is it until the last
minute the movie, and then we'll discuss it again. Yeah,
but that is that look for two hours of this

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two hour and four minute movie.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, that is the case. They do this with other
characters too, where they keeps saying they have the superpower.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Like the shoveler just really is a man with a shovel.
It's not like a superpower.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know, there is a character in Marvel Comics called
Digger and he uses a shovel, but that's a resurrected corpse,
so he's kind of a zombie too. Okay, so that's
you know, not quite this stupid ha ha. So this
just genuinely irritated me the whole time because what they'll
do is that Ben Stiller in nineteen ninety nine was
top three movie stars in Hollywood probably like he was huge, right,

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So they'll zoom in on him and he'll make these
faces and be like, I'm so angry, and I'm literally
like I'm I'm missing a reference. Is this is what
happened on the old Hulk TV show. I don't like
what is the joke? It's just Ben Stiller yelling that
he's angry. I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
He's doing his level best too. It's not Stiller problem.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah for me.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
One of the major problems with the movie is it
is centered around the Ben Stiller's character, Like it is
an ensemble piece. Everyone gets stuff to do, but ben
Stiller's character is the main Like he's whose eyes we
see this world through, basically, and he is a character
who just by definition is like very negative and he
says no to everything. So anytime anyone comes to him

(24:19):
with like an idea or a way to move the plot,
he goes, no, no, I don't want to do that,
and doesn't have a reason for it. He just doesn't
want to do it. He no adds everything, and it's
it stops everything dead in its tracks. There's like fifteen
scenes of them having to navigate around him saying no
to things, and I'm like, if they had just centered
the film around William H. Macy's character, who does have

(24:40):
nuance and like And again, it's not even an actor thing.
I'm not saying William H. Macy's a better actor than
Ben Stiller. He is, but that's not what I'm saying
is that William H. Macy's character like is more human
in a way and like in more grounded and down
to earth, And so you focus everything through his eyes
and and you give the movie room to breathe and

(25:02):
to move a little bit more. So like that right there,
it's a huge anchor, like weighing down the movie.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yep, all right. Speaking of William H. Macy, we meet
him next. He is the shoveler. He is a guy
with a shovel. If he's parrotying something specific, I would
guess Captain America is kind of the feel that we're
going forward this one, but it's that's it's very loose okay.
And then finally we meet Blue Rajah, who's an expert
marksman who prefers forks for weapons being played with extremely

(25:30):
proper British accent by Hank azaria Yes, I guess that's Hawkeye. Again.
These are these are very loose.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So here's my journey with this because Hank Azariya, who's
an excellent actor, has had some some recent like because
he played Apo on Simpsons for so long, has had
some like people being like, you probably shouldn't be playing
this role, and he dug in a little harder than
he needed to. You'd be like, but it's mine and
I've been doing it for twenty years already. And people
were like, yeah, you really shouldn't have been though, and

(25:59):
it's okay that you were first, but like now, let's not.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Now it's weird.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And he's like, but I've been I've had this job
for twenty years. What do you want me to do?
Walk away? And they're like yeah, and he's like no,
And in his defense, he has walked away. He has
been like, you're right. The funny thing is, I know
a lot of people are down on him for like
him digging in on that, but I also get it.
I'm like, he's literally had that job for thirty years,
but that's part of and he's still on the Simpsons

(26:24):
to be clear, still like it has like fifteen other
people he voices on the Simpsons, but he eventually had
to give it up. So given that whole backstory with
Hanka's area, now seeing him like the first time you
see him on screen, he's wearing like a makeshift turban
and like like it looks like like a cloak made
out of like an afghan from his mother's couch, yeah

(26:45):
kind of thing. And I was like, oh no. And
when he opened his mouth and a British accent came out,
I was like, oh yeah, I agree. So much backstory
that is not necessary, but like really hit me hard.
When I was all him, I was like, oh god,
please please, please don't be doing because it would have
made total sense in nineteen ninety nine for him to

(27:06):
be like, could you do your Indian accent?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, we'll darken your skin a little bit, don't worry
about it.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Holy shit, right, thank god it didn't go there.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
All Right, all of the well meaning amateurs are getting
the crap beaten out of them by the Red Eye
Gang until Captain Amazing Greg kinnear smashes his way in
through a window and takes out the gang without breaking
a sweat.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
In the aftermath, mister Furious is like, damn it, Captain
Amazing will probably take all the credit for this. The
Blue Rajah and Shoveler are like, yeah, but he probably
deserves too, since he did the lion's share of the
work aka all of the work.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
They actually try to cozy up to Captain Amazing because
they're fanboys. In this world, these three guys do not
have actual superpowers. They are men who are pretending to
be superheroes. Captain Amazing actually has superpowers. Yes, Captain Amazing
blows them off. He doesn't have time for amateurs, but
he is smart enough to plaster a fake smile on
his face and tell them to keep up the good work.

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He leaves and they're approached by Doc Keller played by
Tom Waits, who up until like the reason he seemed
to be in the nursing home is because he seemed
to be like a fifty five to sixty five year
old Jigglow who's trying, who's tried the win, win the
favor of a seventy five to eighty five year old

(28:20):
rich lady and that this is a thread that is
completely dropped for the rest of the movie. And I
was like, no, no, no, let's stay.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Here, let's dig in.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I'm curious about this. It is totally dropped later and
I'm like, damn it, because that's really I thought, because
I'd forgotten this movie. Actually, I'm like, if does Tom
Waits play a superhero called the Jigglow in this movie,
he should because then ten out of ten no nuts.
But no, no, no, doc Keller. Jigglowing is just his

(28:49):
side gig. He just does that for fun, for fun,
his hobby. His real thing is he is a weapons designer,
and he promises he can up their firepower should they
ever need it. And he gives the shoveler his card.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, here's something, here's a joke that worked for me.
The card lists him as a weapons designer, an innovator,
an inventor, and a world changer, but then it also
lists some of his services as aroma therapy, laser hair removal,
carnival rides, and chicken rentals. Like care went into this movie.
Someone printed out that card.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And then the chicken rental joke comes back, Yeah, and
it's funny. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
So we cut outside. Captain Amazing is striding through the crowd.
He's taking photo opportunities while surreptitiously acting like a dick,
like there's someone in a wheelchair, just kind of shoves aside.
Reporters are shouting questions at him. He's walking with his publicist,
who's played by Ricky Jay. For some reason, Vic is
publicist played by Ricky Jay. As he's getting into the limo,

(29:45):
one of the reporters is like, is it true You've
lost your Pepsi deal, your Pepsi sponsorship, because all of
his suit is emblazoned with like different schiguls.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's like a Formula one driver.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yes, exactly, And his face kind of he had like
that was a surprise. Wasn't expecting that one? And he
kind of covers quickly. He's like, well, I just have
to get into the limo, and he gets in a
limo with Vic as publicist. Meanwhile, the three amateurs walk
out to nothing except the jeers of the local policemen.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
In Captain Amazing's limo, he lays into Vic for the
loss of his Pepsi endorsement deal.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
What's happening Pepsi? I'm no longer affiliated with Pepsi.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
This is a bullshit. How did you think PEPSI paid
for to be the person that Captain Amazing lost the
deal with.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if liked like they
don't actually have, like like PEPSI did not sign on
for this, and they were like, well it's not it's
not worth it. It's not worth it to us to sue.
Just moving on.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Captain Amazing's like, what am I supposed to do? Arc
colas tab fanta?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Frankly, I don't have the juice in the Mexican community
for that.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I don't want a fonta haa uh.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
He also like bemoans his lack of good villains to fight.
You know why I'm losing popularity because all the good
villains are gone. I'm fighting these these nonsense villains like
artiy Lang's character from five minutes ago. Vic is like,
well there's no villains left, Captain Amazing, You've defeated them
all now. They're all in the in the insane asylum
and Arkham in whatever version of Arkham there is in

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this world. Captain Amazing lists off his classic foes, but
they're all locked up, as we said, or dead. Then
he fondly remembers his greatest foe, Casanova Frankenstein, with whom
he had such extraordinary battles it was like a ballet.
Vic tells him that Casanova is currently locked up like

(31:30):
I said in Arkham or whatever the Arkham is in
this world. And Captain Amazing has an idea.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
An amazing idea. One could say, Well, one could say
Greg Knear has a really good ania stinker face. I
gotta say, like, Gregar is great in this Yes, we
cut directly to the seventeenth parole hearing of one Casanova
Frankenstein played by Jeffrey Rush and to his psychiatrist, doctor
Annabel leak a criminally under you used, Lena Olan?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Can I tell you my journey with this? Because I
saw this, you know, when I was eighteen or whatever,
and I didn't know who Lena Olen was that time,
So this would she I forgotten she was in this movie.
Wouldn't have clocked it when I saw her Now, I squealed.
I was like, oh, Lena Olan is in this Holy shit?
How did I forget?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I wonder who she plays like, what's happening? Yeah, what
amazing scene is she going to be in later where
she does a thing?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And fucking nothing nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
She's in the movie throughout the whole movie, and she
almost never speaks.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
She has literally two lines there in this scene. She
does not speak for the rest of the movie.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Crazy that they cast Lena Ollen for this. It has
to be something that got cuts because there's no way
you pay Alena Olen to do this and then like
not not have her to do anything.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Can I tell you what I thought was going to happen?
Because when she when they first introduced her, she was
kind of sitting a little bit further back and she
had a hard bang and a strong lip. So I
was like, oh, Janine Garoffalo. And then as soon as
they got closer, I was like, oh wait, that's not
Janine Garoffalo. I didn't even clock her Aslena Ollen for
a second, but I she looked so much like her
that I was like, Oh, is that gonna be Jenny
Garoffalo's mother.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
No, they do kind of look like I didn't think
of it till now.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, So doctor Leak uses her true lines to proclaim
that Casanova is entirely cured and no longer in danger
to the city. Exit Lena Owen's speaking voice from the film,
Casanova proclaims his deep regret for all he's done in
his past, but still he's filled with love and gratitude
for all the facility has done for him. And to

(33:25):
be clear, Jeffrey Rush is shirtless in a pair of
ripped up pants, a long, greasy wig on, and he
is his fingernails are all like long and yellowed, and
he is going full Shakespearean And how like grateful he
is to everyone who's helped him.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, he looks like he's been working the yard for
twenty years.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yes, the door opens to admit Lance Hunt, local billionaire.
Lance Hunt his glasses keep everyone for recognizing him as
Champion City's greatest hero. Captain Amazing Lance reads a letter
from Captain Amazing himself, who recommends that Casanova be granted
a second chance.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
We cut to the letter and it's his shopping list.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
In the face of such a letter, the board that
was going to deny him parole has no choice but
to proclaim Casanova cured and release him back into Champions City.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
We cut to mister Furious Blue Rajah and the Shoveler
at a diner. Mister Furious wants to hire a publicist
for them, but the others A don't think it'll do
any good and be simply do not have the money
for it. Too expensive. Mister Furius says, look, it worked
for Captain Amazing, but the shoveler points out that he
has a billionaire benefactor in Lance Hunt and mister Furious.

(34:38):
It seems like they've had this conversation a lot. Is
like for the last time, Lance Hunt is Captain Amazing
and the other two are like, no, no one of
them has glasses and the other one doesn't.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
How would the other one be able to see that joke?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Will tickle me the entire movie. The fact that like
genuinely absolutely nobody in this universe except for except for
Curious and later we're gonna find out Casanova, no, that
they're the same person.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I actually wish they had done it more because like,
that is a specific joke about Superman. Yeah, that is
specific and pointed, and make Hay with it, go crazy
with it.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, because when it does come back, it's my biggest
laugh in the entire movie. Okay, we'll get to that
their server, Monica played by Claire for Lannie, stops by
and is deeply unimpressed with the three men before her.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Claire Fourlannie is funny in this movie. She is. After
their meal, they encounter Tony P played by Eddie Izzard
and Tony C played by Pras from the.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Fuji's Amazing again this casting.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
These two are the leaders of the Disco Boys gang,
so they step out of this limo. The Beg's are
playing at all times.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Or sometimes it's Disco Inferno. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
It's bell bottoms, it's the long coats, it's the crazy hair,
it's the it's everything seventies love. The three amateur heroes
wonder why the disco boys reback in town? Why are
the boys back in town? As thin Lizzie might wonder.
Mister Furious is like, well, we should investigate what's going on.
The other two are like, it's late and I'm tired,
very very me coded. Mister Furious decides to follow the

(36:14):
Tonys on his own. So mister Furious is in pursuit
of the Disco Boy gang.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Mm hmm. This shoveler arrives home to a small house
in the suburbs. Kids toys are scattered all over the yard.
He walks in and greets his wife, Lucille, played by
icon and mother of Black Hollywood Jennifer Lewis. Here's what
I'm gonna say. Okay, she's obviously criminally under used in

(36:39):
this movie, but I wonder if to Jennifer Lewis, this
was an opportunity to play something that wasn't a Jennifer
Lewis role. Sure, do you know, like Jennifer Lewis is
often cast to play she's hilarious, and she's got all
this like personality right in real life, and like cast
to play a version of herself. Yeah, maybe she was
just excited to be like, maybe I'm in a kitch

(37:00):
sink drama with a classically trained steppenwol factor, and that's
what this movie is gonna be for me. Which if
that is the case, I love this journey for her
as an actor because I'm like, Jennifer Lewis is too
good for this. But then maybe in nineteen ninety nine
she's like, whatever paycheck I can get, I'm gonna take. Yeah,
but I want to believe that that was her intention
with this, because almost all of her scenes are entirely

(37:21):
with William H. Macy. I don't think she even speaks
to another character in the movie. That's the like fantasy
I'm creating in my mind that Jennifer Lewis is like
I want to have a moment to play like a
kitchen sink drama with a great actor. I'm never gonna
get a chance to do this again. Let's do this now.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I love that journey for her, right, I will co
sign it because otherwise I am bewildered.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Because otherwise it's annoying. And now this is now, it's
not annoying. Now we're like, good for you, Jennifer. Because
she doesn't wink at the camera at all. She's not
even trying to be funny, and something like Jennifer Lewis
has to almost try to not be funny, Like it
was harder for her to not be funny.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
She can spin humor out of anything, and she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I was waiting for her to, like, you know, have
a moment where she like breaks the fourth wall or something,
and like, none of that happens. She's playing this so straight.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
And the funny thing is too with this interpretation, which
I like to be clear, is they've given her this
hair that is like these huge tendrils of like I
almost thought she was gonna have some kind of superpower
have you do with her hair?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I thought she they were doing sixties housewife like like
like she's in the movie Hairspray.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, but serious unlike the movie Hairspray.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah yeah yeah. So Lucille is tired of the shoveler,
who she calls Eddie because that's his name, like trying
to be a superhero. He's coming home late, he's ignoring
his duties as a father. Like you're a good husband
and a good father, that's all. Yeah, Like that's all
you are and it should be enough.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
They do this weird choice here where they have these
extreme close ups where they make they make Jennifer Lewis
she's washing dishes, so she has like the gloves on
and like she has to hold the camera as if
it's William H. Macy's face money, Like it switches back
and the camera's really close to William mate s Macy's face,
and I'm like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I think that is the joke.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Ye, yeah, definitely are.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Playing this so seriously that these two are playing this
like a Eugene oial play. I'm hoping that was the intention,
in which case I like it.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I like the choices fair enough. We cut to the
Blue Rajahs. That's Hanka's area. He's practicing with his utensils
in his room. His room is also all coated with
very like Indian fabrics and there's like pillows on the floor.
Looks like a hookah bar. Basically, his mother Violet played
by Louise Lasser, who's not nobody.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
No, she's incredible and she's another one who does so
much with so little.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
In this movie. Yeah, she interrupts to wonder if he's
on the marijuana.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Because he has incense in his room.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He drops the posh accent sounds fully American, right, so
he is not actually from Britain. This is a character
he's putting on and he hurries her out of his room.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Meanwhile, mister Furious follows the disco boys all the way
to Castanova Frankenstein's mansion, where he spies on them with
binocular Inside we see that Casanova, who was looking pretty
rough in the mental hospital, remember, has transformed back into
a suave old self. Casanova leads Tony p onto the
balcony and Mister Furious spots them. Casanova tells Tony P

(40:16):
to spread the word to all the gangs that he's back,
and this time he's planning something a little different. Then
he says, coboom, and we cut to the Insane Asylum,
arkham of this world as it explodes.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
There's a thing in the scene where Casanova and Tony P.
Who's any iszard? Casanova starts making fun of Tony P
that they're just the disco boy's just angry because they
didn't evolve, and they're angry that disco is dead. He's like,
Disco's not dead. That was very funny.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
How dare you? On cue, after the explosion of the
Insane Asylum, Captain Amazing flies in to confront Casanova. Casanova
dismisses Tony P. The two verse belief spar and Casanova
invites Captain Amazing to have a drink, and Captain Amazing
is like, sure, as soon as you disengage your finger
laser that's on your left pinky, and he's like okay,

(41:09):
And as soon as you disable that thing that's on
your boot and he's like okay. So like these are
old foes, right. They know each other so well. The
Captain tells him he'll go to prison for life this time.
After all, in Champion City they still do a fairly
brisk trade injustice.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Love this.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
He points out the radiodetonator on Casanova's table. He says,
you know, Casanova, you should be more careful of a
disposing of evidence in Casanova's like, no, no, no, no,
it's not a detonator. Curious, Captain Amazing picks it up
and wonders what is it then, and the device releases
a puff of smoke right into his face and he
costs and Casanova says it's a chloroform deploying portable enticement snare,

(41:53):
and Captain Amazing passes out with an ad dang and
falls onto the floor.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
This is an excellent line reading, yeah, dang, we have
neglected something crucial to the plot of this film into
the enjoyment of people in that Jeffrey Rush is doing
Casanova Frankenstein with the most broad German accent.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's a car fumpy flying portable attachment snare.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Hello, my old Poe. It's so good that that was
not a German accent. I will I will do better,
but it is a very funny performance. The next morning,
mister Furious arrives at his job at the junk yard.
His boss Sally, this actress is giving zero fox about
looking good on screen, just playing a fucking ghoule. Good
for her, Yeah, she yells at him to junk the

(42:41):
old jeep already, and Furious reminds her that the old
Jeep is actually an armored car. He can't just rip
it apart with a crowbar, and she keeps yelling junk it,
and like the camera gets closer and closer and closer
to her like villainous looking face. She finally tosses him
out of the office. It's it's an uncomfortable scene to watch.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
It doesn't achieve humor at any point for me.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
It doesn't for me either. Yeah, I feel bad for
Ben Stiller because honestly, it's like his scenes are almost
all the worst ones in this movie. And it's yeah, yeah,
because none of this works. So he goes outside. He
tries to do his job, but then he hears on
the radio that billionaire Lance Hunt has disappeared, and coincidentally,
also no one can contact Captain Amazing to find him.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
And that's the Ice contact in Lance Hunt's phone Ice
Captain Amazing ha, so we don't know who to call.
We cut to Casanova's mansion where Casanova has Captain Amazing
strapped into a chair underneath the barrel of an enormous
laser like contraption. It's called a very long name. I'm
going to shorten it to a psycho fraculator. Excellent, Yeah,

(43:44):
Casanova tells them at midnight the following night, I'm going
to kill you in true villain fashion, not now, but
in thirty six hours from now. Yep. I'm gonna kill
you yep.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
And then also I'm going to monologue to you first.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah. The Captain doesn't love the plan. He's like, I
understand that's you're and but how about some alternatives. What
if you let me go and then just destroy the city,
or I could become your sidekick. Casanova ignores his protests
and leaves. He knows Captain Amazing Is couldn't be trusted
to hold up his end of the bargain. That night,
Mister Furious arrives at Casanova's mansion with Blue Raja and

(44:18):
the Shoveler. There's this sequence where they have to like
run across this field, this open field never has anything
had more of the arrested development energy. When all the
Bluth's try to imitate a chicken where it's like, okay,
you guys do something funny as you run across the field,
and like hank Azaria chooses to like prance across the field, It's.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Like how all of their characters would actually, yeah, you
know what, I didn't mind it.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah I did. After they hear something and they start
to panic, Oh my god, what is that is it?
This is that they realize it's just the sprinklers. The
sprinklers soak them, and then they're confronted by the disco boys.
They scoff at the disco boys, get ups, Oh my god,
who are you guys supposed to be? Ha ha ha
ha ahha, and then they get the crap beaten out
of them.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
We cut to the three back at the diner, nursing
their wounds. They all like like like paper shoved up
their bloody noses. Mister Furious suggests that they recruit other
aspiring superheroes to help them rescue Captain Amazing Blue Rajah
suggests the Sphinx. He's terribly mysterious and also the shoveler
thinks he can cut guns in half with his mind.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
He's heard that somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, they agree.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
To recruit, and mister Furious lets the others go ahead
while he takes a moment to hit on Monica, Like,
not in the worst way. He's actually quite good at
hitting on whim, Like he just wants to talk to her,
like get to know her a little bit better. She
still remains deeply uninterested in his attempts at conversation, and
she shuts him down pretty quickly. I actually really like that,
Like his anger does not extend in any way to Monica,

(45:47):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I do have a question about the scene, though, because
he does walk up to her. She's looking at a
magazine there's a motorcycle on it, and he goes, oh,
you're a hog queen, Like, I don't know that hog
queen is is it?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I don't know if in nineteen ninety nine that would
have been as funny as I think now it's funny.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Now it's funny.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
They also name drop the human Torch in this scene,
which is the only actual superhero that they mentioned in
the movie, And I really wonder how that got by.
Oh that is a legit Marvel superhero. There's actually two
human torches in Marvel comics. Ha ha, I'm forcing knowledge into you,
and they just say it, like what what we could
be like the human torch before he hit or something

(46:29):
like that.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
This knowledge you were forcing unconsu unconsensual knowledge on me.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Learn the lessons of mister Furious, and stop forcing yourself
on Erica.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
For uh, it's little easter egg, I guess for I
guess the nerves out there.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
For the geks. The next day, the three had to
meet a potential recruit who I either the Shoveler or
Blue Raga has heard of, I don't remember which. This
is Invisible Boy played by Kel Mitchell. I think they
want him to be like eighteen.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, let's say yes, only because of what happens later.
But no, I think he's supposed to be like fifteen.
You think so younger than that is supposed to be
a boy because there's a joke here. So this is
why I thought. My interpretation of the Invisible Boy is
what I said earlier, and that he is just a
boy who no one pays attention to and therefore is
invisible because he greets them at the door, and they're like,

(47:14):
are you the Invisible Boy and he's like yes, He's
like come in, and then they walk past his father
who's just sitting there watching TV and not looking up
at all, and he goes, hey dad, I'm going to
my room with three strange men. And then the father
continues to just look up, look down rather and like
at the TV and ignores him completely. Yeah, that is
why he's invisible, Like no one cares about him. Again, Like,

(47:35):
that is so good. I was so bertle. This was
the character that is the most into the whole movie.
I was so excited about this character. And I'm like, oh,
they didn't do enough with.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
It, whereas I thought they were going. So there's a
character of the Invisible Woman that I have a point.
I'm not just forcing this on you. She's a member
of the Fantastic Four and for years they called her
the Invisible Girl, even though she was a woman, And
there was a whole thing in like the eighties when
they changed her name to the Invisible Woman. So I
thought that the joke was going to be We're calling
this like twenty four year old invisible boy, and then

(48:08):
they kept treating him like an actual and they kept
calling him kid. They keep referring to him as young, right.
I'm like, okay, so maybe he's supposed to be like eighteen,
but you think he's actually meant to be like sixteen.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Because he lives at home with his parents, I assume
he's actually a teenager.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, I'm probably thinking about it too much. So Invisible
Boy tells them I have a superpower. I can turn
invisible so long as no one's looking at me, including me.
I also can't look at me when I'm invisible or
else it doesn't work, and they wonder how he knows
he turns invisible if no one can look at him,
and he assures them that when you turn invisible, you
can feel it. They don't seem much use for his power, fair,

(48:45):
I suppose, and he pleads for them to let him join.
After all, he knows a lot of other superheroes through
his network, and besides, haven't they ever been a kid
with a dream.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
We cut back to the diner, an Invisible Boy has
now joined the squad. He lists some other potential recruits
for them, The Pincher, the Pickler, Princess Headbutt, my personal favorite,
White Flight in the Black Menace, but they work together.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I wish the entire movie had been jokes on that level. Yeah,
that's fucking funny.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
That is a great joke. Professor Pink Belly, Lucky Pierre
and the French Tickler.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Lucky Pierre is dirty for this movie.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Lucky Pierre in the French Tickler excellent.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
They wonder if they should have some kind of tryout
maybe for all their potential allies. And at that moment
they noticed the Spleen played by Paul Rubins entered the diner.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
They're immediately like, don't make eye contact. They look down,
they pretend to look at their menus. He walks up
and says, hey, I heard you were looking for shop
recruits and they're like, no, no, no, no, we're not
looking for recruits. We're just we're finishing up. In fact,
we're about to leave, so nice to see you. And
of course they all get up to go from the table,
and that's when Monica shows up with all their food, right,

(49:55):
and she's like, oh, are you guys leaving and they're
like no, and the Spleen's like creat.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
He speaks with a very thick lateralist.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
They try to get rid of him. He finally catches
on to what's going on. He calls them out for
hurting his feelings. After all, he is a hero, he
has powers.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Invisible boy who's the one who does not know what's
going on with the Spleen wonders what are your powers?
And there like no, no, no, But the Spleen explains
when he was a teenager, he blamed about of flatulence
on a passing Romani woman.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Hah hah.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
They don't say ramani, but that's the word I'll use.
She cursed him in return he had smelt it and
now forevermore he would be the one who doubt it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm gonna dissect this a little bit. This should be
the best person in the movie. This should be the
funniest joke in the movie. And they have Paul Rubens,
who is so excellent. They have over peppered the sauce. Yeah,
the Spleen is this grotesque character, and it's Paul Rubens,
who can do anything, and he's like he's going for oh,
he's going for broke, He's doing a ten. They're overdoing
it so much that the character is not no longer funny.

(51:03):
It's annoying. And also I feel bad for him.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yep, his power is farting, right, Like he can fart
on command.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
And that backstory is perfect.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I mean, look, if there were no passing romani women,
sixty five percent of genre TV would go away, like
they are the source of so many curses. But his
power is gross. So to me, then you don't make
him gross. You make him.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Rob low, you make him gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Rob Lolow in ninety nine would have done this. He
would have been a farting superhero in a second.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, he had just finished Wayne's World. He would have
done this in a minute.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
He had no issue with that, and it would have
been hilarious because there gets a very tiny little runner
when Janine Garoffalo enters that Paul Rubins keeps trying to
hit on her, and she's always very nice. But it's
also like, no, it's not funny. You feel bad, like
you were saying, because there's nothing wrong with this character
personality wise. This is a little odd, but like he's

(51:58):
not like a freak or anything. He just stinks. But
they've also made him physically grotesque. Yes, so when she's
like no, you're like, it's not because he smells, it's
because he's physically grotesque or end as opposed to ORR,
Whereas if you have Rob Low with a constant miasma
of like flatulence around him and Jening Garoflo sees Hi
from across the bar and it's like hey, and then
he walks over. He's like, no, never mind, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
That's funny. That would have been yeah, because the characters,
I mean, they're all low status, but this is like
the lowest of the low status characters. And it just
made me feel bad watching it the movie. It didn't
did I elicited absolutely no joy from this character.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, So he demonstrates how his flatulence can make anyone
pass out. You have to pull his finger and he
shouts s b D and he fires his flatulence at
people at the bar and they pass out. The group
decides that they'll have their tryouts at the shoveller's house
in the suburbs because he's got a swimming pool.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
That's fun, let's make a day of it.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
We cut to the tryouts, which yields nothing good for
the shoveler, who is white, is pissed that she has
all these people. I mean, we cut to a yard
that is like a hundred people just like partying and
and and Lucille's like, if anyone vomits in the pool,
I'm going.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
To divorce you, period, end of story.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
And he goes, yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Used to chemistry,
we have excellent chemistry. Genuinely, I wish it'd centered the
movie more around this guy, because then we would have
gotten at least two more scenes. It would have sucked
for Claire, for Lanni because she would have basically been
cut out of the movie because she's only needed to
be a damsel in distress. And we could have put
Lucille in that slot.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Later and like and that would have been funny.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
That would have been better.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
We can't fix it now, you guys, Paul, Let's.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Talk a little bit about the tryouts. We have a
few comedian cameos in this. I think Dane Cook was
one of Dane Cook is the Waffler, is the Waffler.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Pencil head and son of pencil head Erase Crime.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Okay. There's one kind of sour note, like this guy
walks up, he has a black cloak over him, and
then he introduced himself as the Ballerina man and he
throws open his cloak. He's wearing a two two. And
the reactions from all of the men at the table
are like very nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Nine, except for William Macy. Did you notice his face?
Because I was annoyed at this joke too, because it's
so obvious, and I was like, fuck this movie. And
then I looked at God Bless William Macy. He looked confounded. Yeah,
he was more like, how is this applicable in the field?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (54:27):
That was his choice, you telling you like, watch it
again with your face because he's the only actor who
does not make the obvious decision there, and he's like
huh yeah instead of like ugh, right, And it was
It's so good, Like if they had all had various
like you could have one of them being like the
girls shit or whatever, and if the rest of them

(54:48):
all had differing, differing reactions to this, it would have
been much funnier.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
It didn't read to me as girl shit. It read
to me as gay shit.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Oh I thought it was girl shit, which when know
what two sides of a similar point to me, it
felt like they were like boo girl stuff, Okay.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
And then but because then they immediately follow this with
two women in wonder Woman costumes, yep, getting into a fight,
which I was kind of okay with it.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I was really okay with because it's one woman coming
up to them going Hi, I'm wonder Woman, which is
dumb enough as it is, because she's not. You know,
you're not, ma'am. You're a lady in a wonder Woman costume, ma'am.
And then another woman in a Wonder Woman costume was like, hey,
you stole my idea, which is this dumb idea, And
then the two of them start fighting and like punching
each other, And at first I was like, that's funny,

(55:33):
having two women in Wonder Woman costumes punching each other.
It's funny. And then they cut to the dudes at
the table. You ruined the joke. This was such a
good joke, and you fucking ruined it. You made it.
You made it dumb and gross and misogynistic. Yeah, you
almost had a great joke.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
There's only one other auditioner that I feel like we
talking about the PMS Avenger.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Oh yeah, she made me laugh too.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
She comes up and she's like, I only work four
days a month. You have a problem with that? And
all the men are like, no said find me, find
me fine.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
After the tryouts, which were universally a dud, the team
of five have almost given up on finding any more members.
When the Bowler played by Janine Garoffalo appears. She demonstrates
her ability with her sentient magical bowling ball, which she
can hurl into the air to crush things before it
boomerangs back to her bowling bag. It's a real fucking

(56:25):
superhero like ability. She's she's got some superhero juice behind her.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
The bowling ball is also transparent and holds the skull
of her dead father, who was a real superhero in
this world, named Carmine the Bowler, to whom she telepathically
communicates she technically is not a superhero. Her father was
if she.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Could, but she's a legacy higher.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
She's a legacy higher. But she can use her father's
ability because she has his skull. Because if she was
a real superhero, she doesn't fucking need the mystery Man.
But because she isn't a real superhero, she's someone who
is superher adjacent.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah it works. Yeah, she is also very very needed
in this movie that Janine Garoffalo brings an energy that
really lifts the movie up for me.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I agree. Yeah, it's like this like she because she
kind of like pokes holes in it a lot. Yeah,
and she's the audience surrogate in a way.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And we find out later she doesn't want to be
a superhero. She's here to like avenge her father. Yeah,
so she has an agenda, and she's not here because
she desperately wants to be a superhero. She's here because
she needs to use this sentient magical bowling ball to
avenge the death of her father, who, she says, the
police said it was an accident. He came home late
one night and fell down an elevator shaft onto some bullets.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Excellent. Yeah, and then the Blue Raja is like, you know,
I've always suspected a bit of foul play. The men
immediately ask her to join them, despite furious for some reason,
being like, no, no, I don't want her here, I
don't want her on the team.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I think if the movie, which kind of half drives
towards but kind of half doesn't, was about these people
who desperately wanted to be superheroes discovering their superpowers through
you know, teamwork and believing in themselves and all that,
you know, stuff that you're gonna put into Hollywood movie
about this, right, Like it kind of happens mister Furious,

(58:13):
It kind of happens with Invisible Boy. Doesn't really happen
with the Blue Roger or the shit, Like, isn't that
what the movie's supposed to be about. Bowler has a superpower,
she doesn't really care about it. The Spleen has kind
of been cursed with this power. But the other four
are desperate to be superheroes, and if it's their journey
to being superheroes. Not all superheroes have to have powers,

(58:35):
I know, but like in this world, they kind of do.
They all desperately want them. So isn't that what we're
looking for? I don't. It's very confusing.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
If I think that's where the movie does eventually go,
like it's it's guys, it just doesn't.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Work, I say.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
So.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
The new team gets right onto the case. They head
out in the Shoveler's station wagon and on their way
through the city, they passed Casanova's limo headed in the
other direction, and they're like, whoop, we can confront him
right now. They Dewey Yuie they give chase and they
are quickly noticed by Casanova, so he's like, stop, stops
the limo. They stop the station wagon. The limo backs

(59:12):
up next to them, roll down the window. Pardon me,
do you have any gray pupond? He doesn't say that.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Kendo, I am Casanova, Frunk and sign French, shrunk and sign.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
The six heroes step out of their car and they
ask Casanova where is Captain Amazing, and Casanova is like,
I'm sorry, I just said I wanted to burger and fries.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Did you guys want to drink? You want to? Do
you want to soda?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Do you want the curly fries? Uh? Huh? Do you
want this supersized soda?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Super shy? Shut up? Can I have a double burger
and fries place?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Do you have frostis? Do you have frost I like
to dip the fries in the frosties.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Look, I'll get into this real quick right now. Jeffrey
Rush is currently quite problematic, and so I hesitate to
say this. He's fucking great in this movie.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Very good, a wonderful app Terrible people can be great actors.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Terrible people can be very fucking funny, and he is
very fucking funny in this movie. This is a great scene.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Tony p. That is Eddie Izard notices the bowler and
happily is like, oh are you Carmine's daughter? I shot him? Look.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I love Eddie Izzard. I've seen her many times live
doing stand ups. She is one of my all time
favorite stand ups.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Do you have a flag?

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Do you have a flag? Truly great actors also cannot
do an American accent when you just be English. Why
are they forcing an American accent?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I didn't even think she was trying, and you were like, no,
she that's her trying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That's her best American accent. It is her only flaw
as far as I'm concerned. Man, it is so distracting.
Just be English. All the villains are English in every
other movie. Yeah, just let her be English.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Be English. The Casanova frakeensign can be can be German,
Leina Ollen can be Swedish if you let her talk
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Fucking silent, I suppose, But anyway, I just want to
avoid that out because man, is it distracting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yes, the team attacks Casanova's limo with varying degrees to success. Right,
the spleen and the bowler are the two that actually
have some level of superpower so they're more effective. Mister
Furious is like jumping up and down on the hood
and slamming his hands into the hood, doing as much
damage as I would if I slam my hands into
the hood of a car. They then beat a hasty

(01:01:26):
retreat before any of the villains can retaliate. They peel
away in their car and the Tony p sends a
couple bullets their way. But that's the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah. The team regroups at a bar, continuing to bond
and grow closer. They all leave drunk. They find the
disco boys waiting for them outside Rubro. The boys corner
them in an alley at gunpoint. It looks like a
firing squad. This is the end for the mystery Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
M m.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
They count down to execution when suddenly all their guns
are just magically sliced in half.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
The Sphynx played by Wes Study appears from the shadows
and tells them they are all fools. This might be
my favorite character.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
In the movie. I think this is the character that
works outside of the Bowler. I think the Bowler and
the Sphinx they name my two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Favorites are probably cast over Frankenstein and the Sphinx. The
Sphinx n no notes on Wes study on like anything
they do with the Sphinx in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
So the Sphinx takes the team to a junk yard
and tells them again, you're all fools. You are not
ready to take on Casanova Frankenstein. He is far too
great of a villain for you to have any chance
against him. You have to learn teamwork. The Sphinx offers
to teach them and says, in one of his numerous
wise lines, to learn my teachings. First, I must teach

(01:02:44):
you how to learn. And everybody but mister Furious is thrilled. Ah,
we're getting a real superhero. Is gonna train us. We
are going to become the next Avengers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, we're a squad now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yes, I think this is a perfect time for us
to take a break. Yes, all right, We're gonna play
a couple more commercials right here, and then we're gonna
come right back. We're gonna take you through the rest
of this, this gripping drama that is Mystery Men, and

(01:03:16):
we're back Erica laying on. Did you get Anica commercials
for like your own superhero kit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I did. In fact, it's a box that comes straight
to your house. Yeah, and it's just you open it
and it's all the fucks, all the fucks behind in
your life, Yeah, coming flooding back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
And what a great And you can you can like
slingshot them at people and suddenly they have a fuck
to give.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, and suddenly they also have a fuck together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
You are the anti nihilist. You're forcing people to give
a captain fuck together. That is a great sex tape.
It's not yours, but it's a great sex.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I don't think I'm the captain. I think I'm more
like lieutenant to give. How about you, Paul?

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Oh, I got a rate one. It was for capes
that make you fly, but they they there's a really
really long disclaimer at the end that said that the
manufacturer was not responsible for any neck injuries. Uh huh.
That came about because of the flying cape thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
So I thought, no, no, no, no, that's a little
too advance for at our age. No are you joking?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
My neck hurts when I wake up some days. No reason,
no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Right now, I think I spoke too loudly and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
He is hurt from that, and I haven't been throwing
neck or anything. This is just a normal day and
a neck hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, Lieutenant, give a fuck has thrown some neck in
a minute? I'm not gonna lie. We come back to
a training montage. The Sphinx works with each hero but
also with them as a team, encouraging them to believe
in themselves, in each other, and in their powers. Mister

(01:04:50):
Furious just resists, resists, resists. He's irritated with both the
Sphinx's tendency to speak in riddles and with the respect
that the others have for him, So he wants to
be a leader of this group. Almost immediately once the
Sphinx like starts to join the team and like train
the team. You hear the shoveler say finally we have
a leader. Yea, And this really rubs mister Furious the

(01:05:12):
wrong way. So he has a real inferiority complex with
anyone who has any kind of like ability that he doesn't. Right, So, like,
that's why the bowler, and that's why the Sphinx.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
There is a moment here where the Sphinx is like
having him balance a hammer on his head or something,
and that he says one of his lines about like
once you find balance, it's the balance that you find
or something like that. But then mister Furious goes, why
are you making me wear watermelon on my feet? And
the sphinx looks down, he looks up, and he goes,
I don't remember telling you to do that walks away.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Yeah, there's a joke that I love. He's training the
shoveler who really thinks he has just that one move
of hitting people with the shovel and he goes, no,
you must strike out with every limb, like an octopus
that can play the drums. That's why this movie should
be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Also, I think I didn't say this before, but this
movie is a little over two hours, so long. Pick
up the fucking pace.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I literally cut twenty five minutes out of this movie,
like easily. Speaking of OCTOPI, did you get the ad
for the octopus kit? No, this was not superhero, this
was plug your ears, This was sexual. This was like
a German tentacle porn thing. You tell Yeah, No, I
mean that was pretty much it. It was about an
octopus suit and prehensile tentacles. But they weren't recommending it

(01:06:24):
for superheroing. They were recommending it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
For uh pleasure, for super pleasure, super pleasuring. Yeah, I
love that. Think of where those tentacles can go. All
the holes all the time, so many places.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Yeah, that's the name of the company. All the holes,
all the time, all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
At one moment, the Sphinx is like having them remake
all their costumes so that they feel better about themselves.
If you have a costume you love, then you'll love
your costume. Yourself in your costume.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Love the skin that you're in, Love the skin that
you're in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
They're all working on their costumes together, and mister Furious
has finally had enough, Like he tries to have a
Jerry Maguire moment. He's like, I'm out of here with me,
and alas no Renees Elwiger is there to follow him.
He finally just quits. He walks out alone, and the
Sphinx tells the remaining heroes that they need to upgrade
their weapons to take on Casanova, and the Shoveller remembers

(01:07:13):
doc Heller.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
The aging Jiggielow that wasn't Tom Waits. Yeah, So we
cut to the Shoveler, the Bowler, and the Spleen arriving
at doc Heller's place, which just happens to be an
abandoned amusements park Excellence, just where he lives, no explanation given.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
At this point. There's like a chicken just meandering about,
and one of them, almost off camera, says, who would
want to rent a chicken?

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
The three of them head in. They eventually find doc
Heller and they tell him that they came for weapons.
He shows them into his workshop and they start poking around,
and he's like, look, I only make non lethal weapons.
I'm a moral mad scientist. They are all extremely disappointed.
They scoff they start to walk out. The bowler says,
that's why, in general, a mad scientist is less as

(01:07:59):
a than a garden variety scientist. He rushes after them.
He's like, hey, don't go so fast. He pops open
this can. He throws it in the air and it
becomes a little miniature tornado that rips the spleen up
off the ground, turns him around a few times, and
drops him back down on the ground. He's unharmed. All
of them like, oh, hey, hang on a minute, hang
on a minute, this is interesting. So they head back

(01:08:22):
in much more impressed. They're doing some window shopping, they
see a shrink ray. The shoveler says, that's a shrink ray,
and the bowler goes, how do you know? Ooh a manual?

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
There's also a blame thrower, so you shoot it at people.
They start, They get into a fight and blame each
other for whatever's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Uh huh. Thirty minutes of this, yes, and more of
this please Meanwhile, mister Furious, Uh, we're back to mister
Furious in his goddamn journey. Monica asks him, Hey, where
are your friends? She seems to be nicer to him
than she generally is because she realizes that he's by himself.
He's upset, maybe he and his friends had a falling out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
And he also, like he says some thing without playing
the role. He says to me, is it okay if
I just have the tea? Like he just asks her.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah, it's like I'm not really hungry. Yeah yeah, He
drops the gaffect, right, yeah. He becomes a person with
her and she's like, yeah, oh yeah, sure, no problem.
And then later he's like, can I walk you home?
And the city's gotten dangerous without Captain amazing, so you
might you might need some at escort and she's she
agrees because again he looks like Ben Stiller.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
And he's being sweet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
On the walk home, she suggests that he just go
back to his friends, apologize, and help the team save
Captain Amazing, Like nothing has been done that cannot be undone.
She is a very smart woman, this lady. Yes, he's
lucky he stumbled upon the nicest woman to care about him. Also,
she looks like Claaria for Lawnie. Yeah, He's like, yeah,

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but how about if I if I go in furious
and don't apologize, And she's like, or just be yourself
and fucking apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Because when you were yourself and the diner, I actually
liked you. This per shouldn't say this, but that's yeah, yeah,
this person's not fun. So we cut to the rest
of the team with the Sphinx as they're plotting their
rescue of Captain Amazing. The Shoveler, Blue Rajah, and the
Bowler are tasked with getting the kidnapped captain to safety
while Invisible Boy, the Spleen, and the Sphinx will keep

(01:10:17):
an eye out for any enemies. They're all loading up
into the station wagon and mister Furious returns. The Shoveler's like,
give me a minute. He walks over to his friend.
Mister Furious is trying kind of to choke out an apology,
but instead just be like, I'm just so angry. That
anger is bright, like oh my god. The shoveler takes

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pity on him and he's like, hey, you just want
to come along for the mission. Mister Furious is like yes,
so he joins the the infiltration team to go in
and get captain. Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Yes, I love being on the infiltration team. Uh huh,
I'm definitely team infiltration.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I am so team reconnaissance. Hey guys, yeah, it's looking
real bad for you. You need to get out now. We're good.
We are waiting for you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
We're in a van. We got takeout. We're gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Yeah, I have lomaine. You want me to save you some.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
No, I'm too busy dodging bullets here, go ahead and
have the lomane.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Okay, I can save you a shrimp. No, no, no thanks?
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Could you send in? Guns? Do you have more guns?

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
But I can't leave because I'm the reconnaissance Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Geez, never mind. We cut to Casanova's where he has
gathered all of Champion City's gangs to announce his plans
like this is a scene I really enjoyed the assemblage
of weird fucking gangs in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
They are trying to out stupid the Warriors and you
just can't. But they came close.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
They came close. There's even a Warriors moment the scene,
which I'm very, very much appreciated. Here are some of
my favorites of the gangs. We have the Suzi's, a
team of assassins from the East according to according to Casanova,
their their look is very the yakuza meets adam ant. Yeah,
it's glam rock meets meets hardcore Japanese criminals reservoir dogs. Yes, yes, yes,

(01:12:02):
So I'm now my question to you, is this a
gay reference the Susi's. The fact that because he calls
them the Susi's and then the leader kind of does
like a wink at him, like yes, girl, And so
I think it's supposed to be a gay reference, And
I'm I, if you didn't even catch it, then I'm
guessing it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I didn't even catch it. I mean, I I don't
think I even clocked that Susie's was their name, Like
I think I probably thought it was like a yakuza,
like a play on Yakuza. Oh, which it's not a
very good one, to be clear. But you can't call
them Kuzzi's because then you're really getting into feminizing them. Yeah,
I don't know. I did not catch it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
I feel so that I believe this might if what
I think is the interpretation, and I believe this is
gay representation, that's actually pretty good. Yeah, it's it's like
the in the in the Warriors. It's like there's a
whole gang of of Asian gay men and they are
here to fight. I love it. I'm not mad at it.
And they're obviously the best dress of the whole tea.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
The other ones I really enjoyed were the suits. A
bunch of old, old white men in business suits and
their modus operandi is downsizing all who dare oppose them.
There is a fraternity, just the frat, and their leader
is Michael Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Yep, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
No, I mean as a very inside baseball joke. I
don't know how many people would have recognized Michael Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I didn't recognize him, to be honest, but the way
they held on him. I was like, is that somebody?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
And I looked it up, and you know, it's not
a famous actor or an actor at all, because he's
not good, right, he's very wooden, And you're like, that's
someone famous. Then yeah, it's Michael Bay. I thought that
was really funny. He also just they look like a
frat by the way. They're not like a modern frat
or even a nineteen ninety nine frat. They are a
frat of middle aged men straight out of the movie

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Animal House, which came out in the seventies. Like that's
what they look like. Yep, there's the Not So Goodie Mob,
which is actually just a band, a contemporary band of
the nineties called the Goodie Mob.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Seelo Green Jump Scare.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Yeah, Seelo Green Jump Scares. Now we have not one
but two canceled men in this film. But I did
like that joke, like kicking an actual band and just
like being them. But they're super the evil version of them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
He tells all of these gangs that he has created
a machine to quote encourage their fellow citizens to share
his vision for the world.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Which is not at all what he's done.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
It is and it isn't though kind of Yeah, he
wants to drive everyone insane.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I guess, but he else is gonna kill them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah, but first he wants to drive everyone in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Sane, okay, and then kill them and then kill I say, okay, yeah, sorry,
I don't you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Don't think Casanova Frank Sign's working with a full deck.
It's what I'm what I'm saying, I gathering. Yeah, this
none of that bothers me. The fact that his plan
is weird and dumb, it it makes sense, absolutely does
not bother me. Fair enough, The gangs all start to
worry about Captain Amazing interfering, and Casanova invites them to
follow him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Call my friends, follow me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
By the way real quick. In this last scene, as
he's like telling them his plan, he does end his
little speech with can you dig it? And I felt seen? Yeah,
felt very seen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
The extraction team makes their way to Captain Amazing, no defenses,
no problems. They just get all the way into this
inner sanctum where Captain Amazing is being held. He is
still strapped to the chair underneath the psycho fraculator where
Casanova left him, and Captain Amazing starts to give instructions
to the bowler and mister Furious aboutw to safely get
him out of prison. This involves toggling two switches up

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and down. Yeah, somehow Captain Amazing knows how to do it,
we don't know how. They quickly wind up confusing each
other because Blue Raja keeps asking Captain Amazing questions in
the middle of the instructions. Yeah, and they start to
get into like a very it's one plus two plus
one plus one one plus two plus two plus one
kind of situation from clue. They start to get frustrated
with each other. Captain Amazing starts yelling in an attempt

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to diffuse the situation. Blue Raja is like, well, I'll
do it, and he runs up there and he throws
the switch, which alas activates the psycho fraculator and frauculates
Captain Amazing in a special effect that was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Gross Yeah, and really well done. I have to say,
how would you describe it? Basically, it cooks him from
the inside.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, and also kind of like like stretches his reality.
It looks like he's going through a reality warp, so
his skin is like kind of stretching to either side
and everything doesn't seem like a fun way to go.
I gotta say no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
It seems very painful on the list, prolonged and painful.
But yeah, I actually really like this special effect. I
thought it was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
After it, the bowler is like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
check for a pulse and she touches his head and
his hand falls off. She's like, I don't think he's
gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah, he's like a fried husk of a person.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
At the end of it, I mean, way to make
me not want my burnt tips on when I get
in a brisket, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Ah. At that moment, the heroes here, Sonova approaching and
they flee. They're like, oh fuck, we gotta get out
of here. But one of Blue Rajah's forks falls from
his costume, leaving a clue behind. Casanova arrives and he's like, oh, oh,
there's a charred husk where Captain Amazing ought to be.
But he's smart. He thinks on his feet, He pivots.

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He announces that the smoking corpse was his plan all along.
That night, at midnight, he will do the same thing
to Champions City. All the gangs of criminals applaud yay
hoyl plan.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
The heroes run back to Doc Heller's. They try to regroup.
The Sphinx suggests running. Hey, you know what, we could
always run.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Yeah. Maybe sometimes we're just not gonna win these fights
and we're not gonna win it. We should just fucking go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah. Most of the team thinks this sounds like a
good idea, let's pack up, But in the background, the
shoveler he's making an egg salad sandwich, and he basically
uses egg salad sandwich as like a I'm either going
to eat this egg salad sandwich and stay here and die,
or we're actually gonna fight it not doesn't quite work.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
It doesn't, but it did make me want to eat it.
Eggcellad sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
I've never in my life wanted to eat excellad sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
I yeah, I was gonna say. I felt bad for
you when I was watching this scene. This is like
all of your worst food stuff. It was gooping, it
was yeah, it was very He hates Mayo, really hates
it and avoided William H. Macy load that shit up
in Mayo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
So the shoveler gives them this pep talk. He rallies
the team and they make a plan. Step one, they're
gonna get that tank for mister Furious's junk yard, remember
the one that his boss was screaming at him to
junk ahead, go get that tank prepared for battle. And
step two, those with loved ones will go home and
say goodbye. Yeah, because they might not make it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Blue Raja goes to restock his weapons and in the
process basically tells his mother that he is a superhero.
I am the Blue Raja. She shockingly is like, thank god,
I thought you were just into drugs. This is so
much better. She because she didn't know anything about her
own son who's living in her house, and she's like, oh, okay,

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so you have purpose, you have direction, you have a passion,
you have something you care about, and you're trying to
do good in the world. She sees all the pluses
and none of the negatives what he's doing. She immediately
accepts him. She supplies him with even more forks, her
best silverware in fact, yep, and the ones she was
saving for his wedding day, which good instinct. Good instinct, mom,
because I don't think that day is coming.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I thought this was the gayest moment of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, because it's like a coming out scene. It's very sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
And also the way that she's like, I was saving
him for your wedding day, but I guess that might happen,
which in nineteen ninety nine would have been, like, I think,
an acceptable joke. It's a little it's a little sour
for a gate to say that to a gay man
now or a gay person now. Yeah. Yeah, but like
I think it's a well meaning joke about you can't
get married because you're a big home mom.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Oh so funny. I saw it totally differently, Oh okay.
I saw the joke as being like, well, because you're
a big giant weirdo, right, like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Which it also works as so obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
I don't think marriage is in the cards for you.
I don't think you're gonna find a partner. It's gonna
deal with all of this. That's what That's how I
read the joke. But that's funny. It's like differing perspectives.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Things don't go as well for the shoveler. He gets home,
Lucille is in bed and she is like, what what
what are you doing? He's like, Lucille, I have to go,
and she says, all right, I'm not gonna be here
when you get back, and neither are your kids. And
he says, it's a chance I have to take or
else there might not be a home for me to
come back to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
And they are both playing this so straight. There's not
there's nary a bit of comedy in this scene.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
When he leaves, it like zooms in on Jennifer Lewis's
face and she just looks like hurt, yeah, and confused
and upset, like what is wrong with my husband that
he keeps doing this?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Yeah, it's very it's really good acting from these two.
Like again, these two are in a fucking pinter play.
But I kind of wonder now in retrospective, that was
the direction the movie's headed, Like play a little music
under it, so we know, like we are now stepping
into a melodrama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the scene
where we're stepping into a fucking even not a mellowdrama,

(01:21:01):
Like it's not even We're stepping into like a very
serious scene here. The last scene was also quite serious
with Hanka's aria and his mom, but like there was
a little joke at the end, right, there was a
little bit of like, well, you know they're gonna get married,
so this has no jokes. This is played completely seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
I wonder if the set designer or set dresser could
have helped here too, because their house is very candy colored.
It looks like something out of out of Edwards's or hands.
Uh huh, right, and they if they'd come to this
house and it was like a really like gritty drama house,
you know what I'm talking about, Like the lighting is different,
the paintings are different. Not even gritty drama, just like

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normal suburban Yeah, nothing remarkable, nothing cartoonish or comic booky
about it. I think that would have helped it too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Yeah. Yeah, mister Furious stops by Monica's apartment to let
her know that if he doesn't call her, it's not
because he doesn't like her, because he does. It's just
because he has been killed into suicide mission to stop
Casanova Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
If I had a nickel for every time I said
that to a guy at the end of the day, Yeah,
with no intention of calling, but just using Casanova Frankenstein
as a cover.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
That is my least favorite text to get. Yeah, boy,
if I had a nickel, she takes us all very
much in stride. Monica is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
She's like wait before he leaves, wait what's your name?
And he hesitates and he's like Phoenix dark and she's
like oh. She starts to roll her eyes because he's
acting a fool again, and she starts to walk away,
and he's like, wait, no, it's Roy. Roy is my name,
and she's like, thank you. Nice to meet you, Roy,

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and she gives him a kiss and she's like, here's
a bit of advice. Just be Roy. Yep, she's wonderful. Yeah,
he does not deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Her at all, none of us do. I enjoyed the
dark Phoenix reference. So the team is getting ready at
the junk yard, but alas Erica, mister Furious has lost
all of his confidence. Maybe he doesn't have any superpowers.
He doesn't know what's going on. He can't get angry.
I'm not even thinking into it again.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
A girl likes him now, like what, she's diffused all
his anger. She's teaching him to be himself. He's no
longer mister Furies. He's just Roy. Fuck you, Monica. We
had this unlock, Monica, and you came in and ruined everything.
Thanks a lot Yoko.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
There isn't time for them to wait for him to
get his mojo back. They all get into the refurbished
tank and it's time to go confront Casanova Frankensteinshova Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
What if Casanova Frankenstein had instead been played by Martin.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
Short Oh oh, hating f asi Oh we have villain
put it off, and then of course Betty Wong has
to also be in there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Of course, of course, yeah, hi, I'm Tony, I'm really
into disco.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
It's a disco. Luckily it never goes out of style.
God damn it, goddamn it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
On the way, the team keeps trying to help mister
Furious get his rage back, citing everything from his abrasiveness,
his lack of wit, his bad pedmanship, and then mister
Sphinx has one of my favorite lines in the movie.
He's like trying to insult him and he goes, uh,
you dressed in the manner of a male prostitute. Bed
still does a really good job at this moment of
being like confused, uh huh and angry and also like

(01:24:28):
maybe I never thought about it, but maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Jinin Garofflo is a great moment where she like looks
and she points to them. She's like, yeah, did that
do anything?

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
The shoveler announces too late, we've got a blind date
with Destiny and it looks like she's ordered the lobster.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I left at that, and I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
It's a great line. And also William H. Macy doesn't miss.
They crashed through the gates of Casanova's mansion and into
the main ballroom where all the gangs are having a
disco dance party. The amount of disco played in this
movie did not make me mad. I have to say,
I really really enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
We gotta get Saturay night Fever on this here pod
so one of these days.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Yeah, age is beautifully.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
No no notes. All the gangs pull out their guns.
They start firing at this tank. The heroes actually have
a plan this time. They activate a magnet and this
little like kind of telescope looking thing pops up from
the top of the tank and it magnetizes all the guns.
So all the guns go and slam themselves onto this
pole so it disarms the gangs. Casanova shouts his allies

(01:25:32):
go to the disco room and seals it. Off with
a laser defense that murders anyone who gets into range.
There's one villa who's running a little bit behind, and
he's hot because his pants fell down and he's hopping
behind the door closes and he gets he gets dusted
by this laser dead woof, No boy, No. Invisible Boy
realizes this is his moment. Oh my god, I can

(01:25:53):
turn visible. I can save the day. His teammates are concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
They're like, eh, it's sweet because it seems like the
whole movie there, really because he's such a sweet boy. Yeah,
they don't want to hurt his feelings, and like, you
really are not you really don't have the power to
turn invisible. And now they're like maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yep, the shoveler believes in him. William H. Macy says, no,
it's time. It's time for him to prove himself. Let's
give him a chance. They all turn away. Invisible Boy
closes his eyes and he turns invisible. Unfortunately, Erica, what
he doesn't realize. What you don't feel when you turn
invisible is that you've also turned intangible. So all of
his clothes slough off of him. He goes, He turns

(01:26:35):
off the laser. He announces it's safe to look, and
everyone turns around and we have to have a bunch
of jokes about invisible boys. Apparently Giant Schlung might want
to use two hands to cover that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Maybe you should put on some shorts or something if
you want to keep fighting evil today.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Yeah, Juni Garoffalo also does not miss Charlie. That is
a great line reading. During our Warriors episode, we discussed
which game we would be part of. Yeah, now it's
our chance to lead a gang. Okay, this universe? What
would what gang of evil doers are your evil gang?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
B uh huh? And what would their stick be?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
And what would their whole ass stick be?

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Okay, okay, okay. I think that what we would be
is we would be the book throwers. Ooh yeah, yeah,
we would be people who a we would police people's grammar.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Like fuck, the grammar nazis.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
The grammar nazis, and and and if you text me
and you don't capitalize the first letter at the beginning
of a sentence, Hey, I know you're doing it on purpose.
The phone will capitalize it for you. So you're just
doing it. You're forcing it to be wrong. Hm, I
will unleash the spirits of hell upon you. I will.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I will throw down the spirits of my ancestors upon
you and all of your ancestors.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I never thought about that, but I'm gonna start doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Just what a delightful new thing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Yeah, you gotta stop giving me amo, man, Really.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
What gang are you? What gang are you leading?

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
We hate Paul's, then we're gonna fuck with Paul's gang? No, no, no,
we are the agents of chaos.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Yes, we actually aren't quite effective at anything. We're just
here to gum up the works.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
We're just here to be like, you're the fly in
the ointment.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Let's do this. But what if we also put whoopee
cushions on everyone's chairs first? Can we do that? Can
we do that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Yeah, I'm an agent of chaos. That's my that's my gang.
John Oliver is in my gang. He is he is
definitely my my.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
It's almost like the President emeritus.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I have to say, it's not my gang, it's his gang.
I'm just happy to be here, be part of the participate.
Yeah yeah, yeah, this is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
What are other gangs that could lead? The gang that
insists on playing musicals all the time, and when no
one else knows.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
The words obscure, the obscure musical gang, musical gang, the
sonde heads.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
I'm not sure I could lead this gang either, but
I'm going to gather around a gang of the Brooklyn Baristas.
Oh so snotty, so many man buns, so many man buns,
such withering stairs. You are not good enough yeah for
this coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
If you don't have seven tattoos on each arm minimum minimum.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Yeah, you are gross and disgusting, and my taste in
music is impeccable and perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
That gang, the intimidating Brooklyn Barista gang.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Yeah. If you go to one of them and you say,
I don't care what beans you use, I just need
a coffee, they will throw hot water on your face.
They will fandom the opera you so fast.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
If you even think of ordering cow's milk in your latte,
you can go fuck yourself forever.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Yeah, you owe them a kidney, and they will collect.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
They will collect.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Yeah, that's my gang. But Brooklyn Baristas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
I like that one. They're so scary they are I'm
terrified of them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Frankly, the heroes burst in and take on the assembled gangs.
We see the ray that shrinks clothing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
They use all right, the shrink ray only shrinks clothing.
I don't think we said that before.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
It doesn't shrink anything but people's clothing. So it makes
it makes them so uncomfortable that they can't continue to function.
They use that on a gang of women, the thigh
Foxes or something. They're like women who are like impeccably dressed,
but also wear a lot of fur and stuff. And
so yeah, it shrinks all their clothing down. And now
they're on the floor, going my back, my wedgie. That

(01:30:24):
was funny. The spleen takes a bullet to the ass
and the melee and he goes, no, my greatest weapon.
Turns out, though, just because he took a bullet to
the glutes does not mean that his spleen has been
has been compromised. His colon still works beautifully. He manages
to fart a group of enemies into unconsciousness. Anyway, his

(01:30:45):
final act of brilliance, huh, the Bowler confronts Tony p,
the man who killed her father, remember Eddie Hazard. Tony
Pe tells her she doesn't have the guts to kill him.
You don't. You're not your father. Yeah, I try to
do Eddie Iszards America, y'all. Not y'all, father. It's not

(01:31:06):
that bad. It's really not that bad. You don't. You
simply don't have the grit. You don't have the guts
to kill, to kill me. And she's like, you know what,
you're absolutely right. I don't have it in me to
kill somebody. But Carmine, and she takes out the bowling
ball doesn't have that issue. She launches Carmine at Tony P.
The ball knocks Tony P through a wall, rendering him

(01:31:28):
either dead and or unconscious. Probably dead.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
He's out of the fight regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Yeah, he's definitely no longer playing. Ok let me think
of a disco one. He's definitely no longer doing the hustle.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Yeah, yeah, he's definitely no longer taking three three disco
biscuits tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
No no, yeah, yeah, he's no longer doing the frug
Yeah that wasn't just so I missed it. The ball
returns to her bag. She looks at her father and
she's like, you know, we never really talked about this
before in the movie, but throughout the movie, she talks
to the skull in her bowling ball. She and her
father can communicate telepathically. You know what, don't ask question

(01:32:08):
whole thing. She has conversations with him throughout the movie.
We cannot hear her father, we just know her responses
to him. The ball returns to her bag. She looks
at the bag, she goes, Okay, mission accomplished. Now I'm
going back to grad school.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
The gangs are defeated and our heroes turn to confront
Casanova Flankenstein. He has taken a Hostageerica. It is Monica
Monica's because the Disco boys were following Roy at some point,
so they know about this connection.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Yeah, he's holding his cocaine pinky nail to her throat.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
This when I was eighteen seven nineteen did not land
half as hard as it did now. The idea that
Casanova Frankenstein's greatest weapon is his gilded coke pinky finger
is so good the whole movie needed to be this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Yeah. Monica tells the heroes to sayave themselves, but mister
Furious tells his team to drop their weapons, don't attack,
We have to save Monica. They do, and Casanova gloats
about how he and as are always bound by these rules,
whereas I'll happily kill my own men. And he fries
a few gang members from the frat for no good
reason of them to make his point.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
The clock ticks towards midnight, Mister Furious and the Blue
Rajah climb up to the balcony where Casanova is and
the two engage in fisticuffs. Casanova's whole move seems to
be like jabbing his coke pinky at people and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Yessing, yes, it's very effective.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
I don't even know what this is a reference to
this I have no idea reference because it is so specific,
but I goddamn love it. Casanova has the edge. As
the clock hits midnight and the Psycho Fraculator is activated,
the rest of the team runs into the ante room
to try to deal with the weapon, to try to
deep psycho fraculated before the city gets psycho fruculated. Mister

(01:33:59):
Furious rage finally takes over and he starts to beat
up Casanova, ultimately throwing him into the Psycho Fraculator, killing him.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Yep. The weapon continues its work as the group tries
to figure out what they're going to do. How do
we stop this? It's going to destroy Champions City. Oh no,
oh no, they don't ever really plan this, They just
kind of all start doing it. So I don't know
if there was a scene, cup, but I don't care.
This movie does not need to be longer. They all
kind of form a huddle and they move the bowler

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closer and closer to like the spot where the Psychofraculator
is shooting into the earth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Am I making this up? Or is there a moment
where they're like, we have to work as a team
and then they say group hug. Yeah, and that's how
this is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Okay, Yep, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Okay, that's what that's what's going.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
The bowler gets close enough to the psycho Fraculator's beam
to unleash her bowling ball into the inner core. It
crashes around, destroying the weapon from within, and the team
flees as Casanova's implodes. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Did you think that that was the end of Carmine?

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
The movie sure made it seem like she was saying
goodbye to her dad, and I got all fucking invested,
and then guess what, Carlmine's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Back next scene, Carmin's sturdy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Yeah, nothing happened, fucking Carmine. Look just don't put that
other bit in the movie, or like who gives a shit?
Just actually get rid of Carmine. Maybe they thought they
might have a sequel and they wouldn't have a sequel
with Jinni garoflo in it. If her bowling ball was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Right, fine, get another bowling ball to mother.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Yeah, her mother has also was also a superhero. Or
maybe not a bowling ball. Maybe her mother was like
a like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
A frying pan.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Sexist sexist. That was sexist.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Pause, I saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
I'm checking you. Her mother was a telescope because she
was a scientist. How dare you wait? Cut to the
local news reporting the next morning about the brave heroes
who saved the city. Our team appears out of the fog,
so librating how they struck down Casanova with the help

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of teamwork. Lucille and her kids are are very proud
of the shoveler. I think I think there's gonna be
a reunion. Blue Raja's mother smiles when she watches her
son on TV. Doc Heller shouts that's my team and
his gravelly Tom Waite's voice. Monica tells the cameraman all
about mister Furious, who's in a super amount of pain

(01:36:25):
at the moment and really can't give an interview. He
needs to go to the emergency room. The shoveler dedicates
their victory to all the people who don't get enough
credit for all the good that they do. The reporter
asks what their name is, what their team name is,
and no one can agree on anything, so she signs
off with Champion City will always owe a dead of
gratitude to these mystery men.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
End of film.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
End of film. Such an interesting, interesting thing. This film
is an interesting little experiment.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Yeah, it also feels like a moment in time. It's
just very nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, yeah, a lot of
it is very. First of all, there's that fucking smash
Mouth song that I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Oh that's like, I'm not gonna sing it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
It's already in my head. I can't help it. I
just just from saying the name. But it's in the
movie maybe twice, I think, or maybe just at the end.
I don't know. The costumes, the cast like Jenny Garoffalo,
Ben Stiller, Paul Rubins, like willly amaze. It could not
be more nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, it's a time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Capsule, totally all right, everyone stick around. We will be
right back with our random observations and final rankings on.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Mystery Men, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Erica. Did you get the Did you get the commercial
for the uncomfortably aggressive mutating Ooze?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I did, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
What shocked me is that it's a thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
It's one thousand dollars and you have to ingest it.
They said you can't apply it to your skin. It
is it's an ingestable.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Yeah, so you're supposed to get it down your your
villain's mouth. Is that you're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I wasn't even clear if it was you're meant to
put it down in villain's mouth or if you're meant
to take it an attempt to mutate yourself. Oh, because
they kept saying results not guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Okay, that explains a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
It feels deeply unregulated.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
That explains a lot. I hate to tell you I
accidentally did ingest some because I misunderstood what it was for.
I was watching videos of pandas on YouTube at the time.
Ever since, all I've wanted to do is eat bamboo
and masturbates.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
You've been pandaing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
I've been pandaing. Yeah, yeah, I've gained four hundred pounds,
but I.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Am a durable and happy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Pretty happy. Yeah, I followed and has a lot of trees.
You know what's so pretty fun?

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
You have any random observations.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Uh, there's all of minor lines from the movie. Okay,
there's one scene that I got kind of a lot
of mileage out of, and it's the first time that
we see Janine Garoffalo talk to the bowling ball that
is her father Carmine, and the rest of the team
starts to realize what's going on. So first I want
to set the scene. They're in the back of the
car and the bowler is talking to Blue Raja, and

(01:39:03):
Blue Raja is explaining, both to the bowler and to
the audience rich large, what the fuck is whole deal is,
And he's like, actually, the English Empire was in India
for a long time, like just fully explaining why why
the costume looks the way it does, why he has
this big, fake British accent, all that stuff. Great. Then
she looks into her bag and she she goes, what

(01:39:25):
what No, Dad, He's neither a Cammie nor a fruit.
And then she looks back at Raja and goes, I'm
so sorry, I'm so embarrassed by him. And then and
then Raja turns to her and says, am I to
understand you've inserted your father's skull inside of that ball
for bowling, and she goes, no, no, no, no. The

(01:39:46):
guy at the pro shop did no. Okay, excellent, this
whole scene.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
No note every time Janine Garoffalo gets to puncture the movie, Yeah, excellent, excellent. Okay,
here's a random Janine Garoffalo moment. It's Janine Garoffalo, it's
Paul Rubens, it's William H. Macy. They are driving to
doc Keller. They are singing Hello Dolly, but not in English.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
It's actually very funny. Yeah, I forgot that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
I don't know why. There doesn't appear to be any
explanation given within the world of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
They're just singing Yellow Dolly, but it's not in English.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
You know what's funny is I clocked it as Hello Dolly,
but I did not clock it is not in English.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
I want crazy, I want to say it was in German.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Wow, I don't know why. That's I have no problem
with that. That's hilarious. Yeah, I did not clock that
that was not in English. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Just shows how much the movie was holding on to
your attention.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Another line that I loved actually comes from mister Furious.
I gave him a lot of shit this during this recap,
but he did make me laugh with He's trying to
think of a really really clever thing to say in
front of Casanova, and he goes, you must have ripped
the Q section out of my dictionary because I don't
know the meaning of the word quit. And they both

(01:41:03):
are like, ooh, that wasn't good. That wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Something I did like with him in Casanova, though, is
he gives him a face sandwich. He does the hands
of bread, my hands, the bread, your face sandwich. Bang.
It always reminds me of a better comedy. And don't
trust the being an Apartment twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Excellent. Okay, just an example of where this movie could
have gotten back ninety seconds with absolutely free of charge.
The Spleen and Invisible Boy are standing outside Casanova's mansion.
The Spleen sniffs the air. He's like, WHOA did you
let one rip? Because that wasn't me, And there's a
boy's like no, and then a skunk comes out and
humps the Spleen's leg.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Oh yeah, really again too much Spleen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Deeply not funny on to the level around like, I
don't even know where the joke is here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
I just have one more. It is the Sphinx. Get
a lot of mileage out of the Sphinx. And he
has one of my absolute favorite lines at the very
end of the movie. The reporter is interviewing them. They
say we're the best, We're number one, and he goes, yes,
we are number one. All the others are number two
or lower.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
I did like that line.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Yeah. My last one is just and it's another visual
thing that when the Disco Boys are beating the crap
out of the three original amateur superheroes and they go
take front of the Disco Boys and they get the
shit beat out of them. There's a wide shot like
they pull back and Tony c not any izzard but
pras they're meant to be kicking them while they're down.
He is five feet away. He looks like he's trying

(01:42:34):
to shake something off of his shoe.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
He's like, I don't want to hurt anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Let me just do the least. I'm just trying to
have fun here, Guys, like I got my own shit
going on, Like leave me alone, Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
How should we rank Mystery Man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
One to ten underused? Actresses underused?

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Did you notice we never once said the name Lena
Olan again because she barely fucking registers in the movie?

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Yep. If you managed to make Lena Ol and not register,
that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
That's on you. Yeah, fully on you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
It's your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
One to ten Folk rock Jigglows in manner of Tom
Waite's at the beginning of this movie, maybe a whole
movie about folk rock jigglos where we have like Leonard.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Cohen, we have a Woody Guthrie.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Woody Guthrie and Leonard Cohen as like a as like
a re enacting midnight Cowboy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
You know what I watched that I would watch out
of that sad that movie was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Yeah, maybe this our version wouldn't be quite so sad. Yeah,
I feel like Woody Guthrie really would bring the bring
the comedy, bring.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
The joy, the joy. How about one to ten Superhero
kits Ooh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
In fact, I actually did get a new one yesterday. Yes,
it was the ess insignia, just like in Superman, and
I was so excited to put it on, but turns
out I got the Surrender insignia. So all I did
was sit on the couch and watch TV for fifteen days.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Yeah. Yeah, that's rough.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
That was rough. That was real bad. It was hard
to take it off even Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
God, I bet I got one. I got flame throwing gloves.
I was so excited, but turns out you have to
pay for the kerosene to get the flame going.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Oh that's expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
That's expensive. How fast that runs up?

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
That's prohibitive.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
No, thank you, no thanks. I will sit at home.
I don't need to be a superhero.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
I got a broken teleporter once, which was so close
to being very cool, but it was just like fifteen
degrees off, so I would end up just outside the building. Yeah,
and of course the building is locked, and of course
the villains are on the fifteenth floor, and now I
got to go up fifteen flights.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Yeahause the elevator has been turned off. At this point, we.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Get to the fucking battle. No thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Ah uh. They wanted to send me X ray glasses,
but then it turns out they only X ray people's
clothes off. I'm like, I don't want to be a
sex pest.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Ill gross. Yeah, Also dongs are gross and I want
to see all y'all's doung.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Well, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
How about one to ten evil gangs? More evil gangs, like,
for example, the Gang of Four. Okay, it's a rock band,
but it is also four people who stand and on
a sidewalk in one straight line. You can't get fucking cast.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
When you're trying to walk through the construction workers who
are all really really handsome men, and they get you,
They whine you, they dine you and say I'm going
to Jackhamer you and you're like, okay, it's a little weird,
but I'm kind of into it. And then you go
to sleep and the next morning they're just outside with
the Jackhamer, waking you up at five o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Actually Jackcamer, Like, this is not what I asked for.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
This is I didn't ask for the other thing either,
but this is even worse.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
How about the cover band. They're so close to sounding
like the band you actually want to hear, but they're not.
They're not as good. They're not, and they get like
every fifteen lyric wrong, yeah, and it drives you insane,
a little bit wrong, it's a little bit wrong, and
you're like, wait a minute, that's not the fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Lyrics and you should be able to let it go,
but you can't. You fucking can't, can't let it go.
How about the non consensual informers like me when I'm like,
do you know that sub Mariner is the first mutant?

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
How about the thirteen year old popular girl who are
looking at you right now and going no, ill ill els,
You're not invited to my MIT's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Do you know that Rachel Summers is the time displaced
daughter of an alternate universe Scott Summers and Jean Gray.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
You're not invited to my pool party?

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
I do this one, sure. Evil gangs, evil gangs, evil gangs.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Okay, why don't you go first?

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Paul? All right? Oh, this movie, how does it age?
As far as racial diversity? Actually not bad. Invisible Boy
is a black character, and then uh West Study is indigenous.
He's Native American. So look, there's a lot of characters.
There could have been more, but there was not none.
So cool, and both of those characters are real characters,

(01:46:48):
they get fun stuff to do. They're two of them
the more successful characters in the movie. I think, Yeah,
as far as the lady stuff goes, I think there's
an enormous missed opportunity and this movie, because if you're
going to have twelve main characters, six of them superheroes,
seven of them superheroes, and you're only gonna have one woman,

(01:47:11):
then you need to lampshade it. You need to make
fun of it. You need to make fun of the
fact that when these teams started, when com books are written,
there's one woman and then there's the girl. Yeah, right, like,
and they don't because I don't think they were trying
to lampshade it. They were just putting Janine Garoffalo in
the movie because she's the girl. So I think the
movie falls down pretty hard on that. There's there's no

(01:47:31):
real gay content to speak of. The ballerina man thing
was annoying, but you didn't even see that as a
gay joke, and I did you saw it as a
woman joke. Neither which are great, but like, so it's
not pointed. No one like drops an F bomb or
anything at the guy or anything like. It's not like
that it's just kind of it's a bad taste in
your mouth. The Susi's the Susis. But again, I I'm

(01:47:54):
gonna give very few points for that cause I didn't
even catch it. Yeah, the coming out scene with the
Blue Rajah and his mother was the closest to me
the movie came to like any kind of like gay representation,
and even that, like I'm reading to subtext there. That's
it's not textual at all. Like you said, you read
it completely differently, and it works both ways. I don't

(01:48:16):
think the movie's offensive in any way. I think it
tries really hard. I want to pat the movie on
the head and be like, I know how hard you tried,
and I know you didn't mean for this to be
the final the final result, And that's okay, buddy. You
know when you lose a big game, you gotta get
up and you got to go to practice the next
day and you got to do it again. Like that's
my I feel like a like a parent whose kid

(01:48:37):
lost the big game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Come on, champ.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
I think what's funny about it is that maybe the
easiest most obvious thing in comics is like the gender
imbalance generally speaking, and anyone who read comics consciously would
see that. I remember when I was reading the X
Men growing up, Oh Lord, and there was there was

(01:49:03):
a team where it was actually there was gender equality.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I had to let him go first.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
There was gender equality on the team Erica, and people
were writing in being like, why don't you call it
ex women? And I'm like, it's literally the same number.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Is a bummer? Fuck you those people forever?

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Yeah, Jesus, So like that is something that if you're
going to parody a movie, a superhero movie, that's not
your first or second or at worst third thought as
to what how are we going to parody the fact
that there's no women. That's a big miss for me.
I'm going to give it a six. I'm going to
give it a six out of ten evil gangs, and

(01:49:41):
I'm going to pass the mic to you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Okay, So funny because I was while you were talking
two things like Google while you were talking instead.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Of having was it which X Men team? It was
the Outback era? Do you want to know what the
team was?

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
So strenuously don't? Uh No? I googled two things. The
first one it's a weird Google. And I'll admit this
is a weird Google. Are the Susie's gay in Mystery Man?
Is what I googled? Because look, Paul did not catch it.
Maybe I'm throwing something on it that there's simply is
not there. And I actually think that that is the answer.

(01:50:17):
I may be throwing something on it that simply is
not there, because Google responded with are you asking about
the character of Susie and the marvelous missus Mazel? And
I'm like, super not what I googled? Super not what
I googled at all, and like there are there just
doesn't seem to be any any result online. And the
granted I gave this a very cursory glance, I'm on

(01:50:38):
the I went to the first and maybe the second
page of Google and was like, Nope, nothing there, So
it is extremely possible I made that up. The other
thing I googled was X Men film series because I'm like,
when did that come out? Could this movie? Was this
movie a parody of X Men? And it came out
after the mystery Men? Mystery Men was first and then
x Men, so like, if they were parodying anything, it

(01:50:59):
could have been like the TV show or the comic
write the actual comic book. Look, I actually even watched
the X Men cartoon when I was a kid, so
I would have known the characters. I would have known
enough that like a basic knowledge of that would have
would have landed with me. And like zero, I got zero.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
No references to the X Men that I could see
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Yeah, and if he can't see him, they're not there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Sadly wouldn't be able to see him.

Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
I have really nothing to add. I mean the woman
problem wolf like woof, there's no Yeah, this doesn't pass
the Bechtel test. There, You're right, there is some diversity.
I do like like like Jennifer Lewis being in this film.
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
There's an interracial family with kids and very casual. Yes, nice, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Pretty fucking cool. One of those kids is Corbin Blue
by the way, Yeah, who is so cute as a kid.
I couldn't believe it. Ah, guys, I didn't like this movie.
There's not much there. I wouldn't recommend watching it, and
I think it age is fine. I don't think it
really has anything egregious about it, except there's some given
the fact that it is a cast of thirty people.

(01:52:01):
I'm actually only two people are canceled, so that's not
so bad. Honestly, statistically speaking, not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
Oh you haven't heard about Lena Olin?

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
Oh yeah, so yeah, eh, you gave it a six.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
They did.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
I'm actually just gonna give it a five. Okay, I
don't even think it's this There is some diversity, but
it is nineteen ninety nine at this point, so yeah,
we're there should be diversity.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
That which cast this big. If there was no diversity,
my god, it would.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Be fucking thirty people in this movie. Yeah, there also
are some things that we really didn't get into because
I felt bad enough shooting on this movie. But like
there's a lot of like orientalism in the film. I
don't know that some of it is earned.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Yeah, the Blue Raja character, I didn't really think about
that when I think I might drop to a five
thinking about the Blue Russia character.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
But also the fact that there's like all these white
people in a city that looks like Tokyo. No Asian
people live in this in the city, but all the
it looks like Tokyo. Like you, I'm not making that up.
It looks just like Tokyo. Like what is going on?
And we really didn't talk about this in the course
of the show. But like again, because it works so well,

(01:53:13):
I'm giving it a pass. But the Sphinx's character speaks
in these riddles, right, and casting an Indigenous person as
like the wise sage who's gonna like help the team
learn about their inner selves is a little it's it's
not quite bad, but it's on the cusp of being insensitive.
And I'm not saying don't give west Dudy the job,

(01:53:34):
like give him a job to do, but like it,
or put more Indigenous people in the film, then you
don't have that problem anymore. And like, yeah, they went
to some of the obvious places when they didn't need to.
And it's not actually problematic. It's screwting being problematic. And
if you're like giving me time to think about it, yeah,
then then you're not. The movie's not doing its job.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
If you let us know that you know it's problematic.
If you know it's problematic there's one woman, six men.
If you know it's problematic that West Study, a Native
American person, is playing this wise stage, if you know
it's problematic that Hanka's area is playing someone who's like
culturally appropriating the Indian culture.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Whilst also playing up who on The Simpsons.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Like, then you can make jokes about it. The problem is,
I just don't know if you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
I'm gonna give it a five. Okay, I'm gonna give
it a five. I am gonna offer a palate cleanser
because I do not think even the presence of Tom
Waits could not elevate this film. For and goddamn love
Tom Waits. My palate cleanser is The Incredibles. Okay, you
want a ragtag team with superheroes, lots of comedy. It's

(01:54:40):
not diverse, but it's also a cartoon. So like what
we can't all we can't all win? But the Incredibles,
ok it is a great movie about teamwork, about family,
and about superheroes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Okay, I went with I tried to find superhero comedies
that were better so the Tick. The Tick had a
recent resurgence on Amazon with Peter Sarah Finowitz fantastic. Any
episodes of The Tick from any of its various incarnations
top notch. And also there's this great show on Hulu
called Extraordinary. It is a British or Irish comedy about

(01:55:12):
a world in which everyone has a superpower except the
lead woman. She doesn't have a superpower. But it's extremely
extremely blue. It's very funny. The woman who plays the
mother Superior on Dairy Girls plays her mother.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Oh, I love her.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
It's very funny. It has two seasons and I think
it got renewed for a third, so fantastic on Hulu. Yeah,
all right, So that is the end of our episode.
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Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
We probably won't. We're all right, Erica. Any final thoughts
on mystery Men?

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No final thoughts on mystery Man, because we've given all
our thoughts. But I bet the Instagram comments this week
are going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
They're gonna be angry because I never got the chance
to tell you that the Outback era X Men are
actually Storm, Rogue, Dazzler, Silock, Colossus, Wolverine, Havoc and log Shot.
She's gone.

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Something will flat out of my mouth and we'll see
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Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
That really never stopped being funny.

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