LeLakers are Cookin!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
that LeChat's always been kind of like the I don't
know like the queen of 3-6 Mafia, if that makes sense, like that
.
And then Donnan those are thetwo people.
It's like LeChat and Donnan hada rapping child.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Was LeChat attractive .

Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, but like it doesn't matter, right, like she
was supposed to be a nigga,though, like that was kind of
the point, she was a nigga likeI don't know.
Like she's like a nigga, likesexy red's, not that she's
definitely more attractive.
I mean, yeah, I think you knowyou, you put something up or we
talked about it once, and thiswas maybe two years ago um,

(00:53):
where it was like it was sexyred it was.
It was like this uh, you know,the mary kill, sex or whatever
mary kill, and it was those twoand I think, uh, sukiana maybe
was the third person and we bothagreed that we, but we both
agree that sukiyana see, youkill.
We were, we were very much so onthat, but we swapped in terms
of you said mary glow sexy.

(01:14):
I said uh, glow, mary sexy whatwas your rationale behind that?
I thought that she was the mostattractive one of the three.
That's my rationale she's themost attractive one I, I just

(01:35):
couldn't marry the uh, theribbons on the back of the
thighs I just thought, overallmakeup and everything like not
literally makeup, but her makeupas a person that she was the
more attractive one.
I think glow and I sent this toyou earlier most improved
player, no doubt.
I mean no doubt she.

(01:56):
And look, she's an example ofwhat money will do.
Yeah, we look what that moneymake a bitch do.
To quote young nudie.
It is 100% true, he looks ahell of a lot Because because,
like I said, this was two yearsago too.
Remember that this is beforethe Teddy job and stuff.
So maybe now I'm more on yourwave in terms of I would

(02:21):
probably marry glow, but onlybecause glow has a much more um,
I don't even want to say widerappeal as a person, but like she
seems, just from what we know,she's saying like, like what's
her?
uh, sexy, yeah, sexy.

(02:42):
Red is just who she is.
She's just a ratchet-ass chick.
And so I think today, with theGlorilla we have today, if I
redid it, it would be the samething, because there's nothing
about Sukiyama that I'mattracted to, even her ass.
I'm not really attracted to herlike that.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think if Glorilla could come tailgate with us, go
to a Falcons game and do ourpostgame faster and she could go
incognito.
She would enjoy herself.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I agree, I'm on the same page as you.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think sexy red might get tired of being outside
because it's hot.
The dome is open.
You know what I'm saying?
She just wants to go home androll up backwoods and lay up.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, she's more like when am I going to get to shake
my ass and like there aremoments for that.
In Atlanta there are definitelydifferent places that everybody
could go, but I just I'm not.
She would be a hard person toplease in terms of going out, or
you could take her somewhere,and then it would be you're

(03:51):
embarrassed, I'm embarrassed,right, exactly, I'm the one
that's actually embarrassed.
And so, with glow, yeah, sheseems a little bit more down.
Her she'll be like that's cute,like yeah, she got more money
than me.
And even in a situation likethat, I can still show her a
good time.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Right, and she may turn up If we go to 10.
After one of them songs, comeon, she may turn up for a second
, but she gives the vibe thatshe's not entertaining.
No dude when she's with you.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Correct and she'll probably have a good time even
with the other guys.
But know how to do that?
Yeah, because I could go to thebathroom or I could be there
and I'm not turning up, but it'sothers that are doing it.
She's like, hey, like you knowall that shit.
And so I think today I'd switchup what we talked about then
Today.
Today I would make thatdetermination.
What we talked about then Today.

(04:45):
Today I would make thatdetermination.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
And Parley P, I'd let y'all turn up.
I'm going to talk to the staffhere.
Mm-hmm, got to make sure thosepours stay heavy and those
prices stay light.
Hey, we need.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Muhammad Ali behind that bar baby.
We need the greatest to everbar baby.
We need the greatest to ever doit.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We need Muhammad Ali pouring the drinks and Ray
Charles adding them up.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Correct.
That's the signs of a goodnight.
How are we doing today?
Ac?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not too bad.
It's another amazing Wednesdayhere talking to you, parley
Pelay, pete, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Wednesday Good times, I'm doing pretty well.
I got a little solid dinnerhere.
What'd you have?
I went down the street fromafter I dropped Mariana off.
It's just a little bit of macand cheese, little southwest,

(05:58):
I'm trying to think You'veprobably heard of the place.
I've been there.
It's crazy.
I just ordered from there.
It's the southwest Mexican spot.
That's right down the street.
It's on Boulevard, but MemorialDrive or that kind of like, I
don't know.
Sure it's right there, but theydo a really nice Southwest mac

(06:18):
and cheese.
I got some yams and then it'slike a lamb chop but it's like I
don't know how else to explainit they do, it's like a lamb
chop, I got.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, it's just something to eat yeah, lamb
chops, macaroni and cheese andyams on a wednesday, really big
steak in it here, man no, youget to order your food to go.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I ordered it to go and then I sat at the bar and I
just had just a couple oftequilas and that was about it.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
On this side of town struggle meals over here.
Just a little leg quarter, somebroccoli and some corn.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
That sounds like a good meal to me.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I can't hear you right now.
Can you hear me now?
Yeah, all right, I know my gasturned on today so like now I
can actually officially startcooking meals, but now tomorrow
I have to go because you know,when I moved I kind of so I gave
away to my brother and tocouture.

(07:31):
I gave them a lot of my likeshit.
I had a lot.
I had a well, not not even thefurniture I'm talking about,
like the glass, like, if youremember, I had a ton of beer
mugs.
Like I had a lot of shit.
I had a lot of beer mugs.
Like I had a lot of shit.
I had a lot of like.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh, that whole glass display didn't come with the
loft.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
No, it was mine, that was my stuff.
I had that stuff before I movedthere.
You're a prick.
No, I just got rid of all of it.
Here's the thing.
Like for one I didn't.
It was uncertainty on my end onwhen, where I was going to move
eventually next.
So there was that aspect of it.
But then two I think likecarrying it, storage, like the

(08:14):
whole nine.
I just kind of it was a onecome one come all and my brother
got a lot of like the glassware, like the beer mugs, the
teacups, the small plates plates, like, because I had a lot of
like the glass where, like thebeer mugs, the teacups, the
small plates plates, like,because I had a lot of that
stuff, I really did.
I had a lot of it and I had itfor a few years.
anyways, I barely use it anywaybecause I buy plassi and stuff,

(08:36):
so like never hosted dinner,only had one breakfast I well
you know, but the crazy thing isthat's kind of what it's for,
right, like I would use it forthat type of stuff.
But like, yeah, very rarely wasthat going on and even then I
still, depending on what it was,I was still using plastic and

(08:57):
so I didn't feel a need to bringit with me, pack it, hold it.
And then all that glass, buyingthe protection for the glass
and moving.
He got a lot of it.
And then Katora got a lot of mypots and pans Just the stuff,

(09:19):
cooking utensils.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Cooking utensils.
Yeah, you got to go stock upthis weekend.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Well, I'm going to do a lot of it on Amazon, but I
want to have stuff justimmediately too.
So like, yeah, I'll probably goto Target or like Walmart.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know what you ought to do.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Go to a fancy consignment shop.
Great place for pots and pansshopping really yeah, because
you can find like some realdoozies in there, like you know,
like the way you just kind ofgave your stuff away yeah, I
mean, because that is whathappened.
I gave it think about like when, when, when people die and

(09:59):
stuff, they just a lot of timesthat stuff just goes to to
goodwill or like, or those sick,those secondhand stores good
call because I didn't even thinkabout going goodwill yeah, but
like pots and pans, like you canget in there and find like that
grade a shit that's been goodsince the 60s.

(10:20):
so, yeah, that's just one ofthose little things my mom
taught me.
So I do a lot of my pot and panshopping when, by me doing my
pot and pan do a lot of my potand pan shopping when, and by me
doing my pot and pan shopping,my mom does my pot and pan
shopping.
Um bro, she does.
She like that's a good call,though She'll just come up here
one day.
It was like hey, I was at myold secondhand store and I found
these really good pans righthere.
I think you can use them.

(10:41):
I cook Me too.
I have too many.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Typically that's the way I like to do it too Baking
sheets and stuff, little stufflike that.
It goes such a long way For me.
I like to bake a lot, in termsof when I say bake a lot, if I'm
making salmon, carrots, roastedcarrots, something like that,
like these everyday meals, themeals that I'll eat, actually

(11:14):
like on a, especially by myself,because all the places I lived
previously I've had somebodypretty much living with me, so
I'm cooking more, somebodypretty much living with me, so
I'm cooking more.
If I don't have to cook as much, I can literally kind of shop
day by day, as opposed to buyingand cooking a lot and then
having leftovers.
Like I can cook enough to haveleft over leftovers, but, like
you, know, I don't know, I amdepending on what it is like I

(11:38):
love making.
like spaghetti I know that's aone pot type meal, but like I
will make spaghetti and we'lleat on that for several days.
Like I love spaghetti, andthat's something you can't
really get away from.
You can make a small amount butfor the most part you have to
make a pan of spaghetti right,like it's going to last you.
And what I could do, even inthat case scenario I could still

(11:59):
give it to.
If it's not my week with mydaughter can still give it to
them, just as low as myspaghetti.
Like there are many differentways I can still distribute that
and it doesn't go to waste.
Or, worst case scenario, I runinto enough homeless people.
If I've got it, I mean they'renot going to be able to warm the
shit up.
We don't have to do a deep divewith your leftovers.
But I'm saying now I can go toPublix, buy that one salmon

(12:21):
fillet, buy a head of broccoli,buy the little not little
carrots, but like literally thecarrot bunch, and just get one
bunch and cook it for myself andthen there's dinner for that
night, like you know.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, you know, I just don't want to go to the
grocery store every day.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I don't mind doing it , and there's one closer to here
, but I don't mind doing iteither, though.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I've gotten it.
I got so used to not cookingevery day that I don't want to
cook every day anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
But see, but my point is, with stuff like that it's
easier because outside of thebroccoli heads I'd be pan frying
them a little, in a sense ofyou know, just salt pepper, just
cook it you know I want it tostill be crunchy and stuff but
break the heads off.
But then the rest I'm just kindof, you know the salmon's

(13:14):
already marinated, and then withthe carrots, you know I have to
drizzle that and toss them alittle to give them that flavor,
but outside of that you roastthose and then, like I mean
that's an easier meal, that's,but outside of that you roast
those and then like I meanthat's an easier meal, that's a
simple meal to do, like no, I'mthe type where I will eat that,
but I can eat that every day,like I'll do chicken and rice,
like I will do those regulareveryday basis you're talking to

(13:36):
a meal prepper.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I, when I was really disciplined, I would would spend
all day Sunday cooking likebaking my chicken, maybe making
a roast or some little steakbites.
Whatever, my combo is my salmon.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Steak, that's another one.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Cook my different veggies, cook my starches and
just be going through and makinga bunch of Tupperwares and I'm
just eating out of tupperwareall week, like I'm eating dinner
at home by myself out oftupperware yeah, roasted
potatoes like little the stufflike that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's what I don't mind.
Or I'll make it to where, let'ssay, you go grocery shopping on
a monday and you get the yukonsmall potatoes in that bag, I'll
make half or dinner, maybe I'lleat them all, maybe I won't, or
maybe I'll cook them all, eathowever much and then have the
rest, maybe make it forbreakfast, have it for break

(14:38):
like roasted potatoes with mybreakfast.
They're not breakfast potatoes,but it's kind of the same, I
mean, if I drizzle just a littlebit of syrup or something.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You got one more time to say drizzle.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
These are the terms that I usually for what I'm
doing, because it's the truth.
There's no pause, there's nonothing wrong with using the
word drizzle.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I mean, I'm just saying you'd use drizzle like
twice in two minutes.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, eat your motherfucking heart out.
It's true, there's the obo,there's your obo.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Chain moment, there you go we didn't do
pre-production, did we?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
we actually didn't that whole time.
We, we did not talk about that,but I, I, we have a very good
understanding what we're talkingabout too yeah, uh, do you want
to start with the combine, orNBA?
Combine because we're afootball first show.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Speaking of which, you know what I've been thinking
about.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Making a soundbite of the graduation music.
Anytime I hear Cap, we can'thear you, we can't hear you?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Can you hear me?
Now I can.
I don't know what that is.
It's weird.
So with these headphones itmakes it weird, but regardless,
like the Macho man, randy,savage music.
Yeah, that's like his music too, for wrestling.
It's called actually the nameof the song is called pomp and

(16:16):
circumstance why do you knowthat your, your sound went out
again?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
This guy's going to be playing with his ears all
night.
Try again.
No, it sounds like you'rewhispering.
It's like, can you?
Hear me.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, can you hear me now?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh yeah, you're loud and clear.
I just can't see you.
All right, can you hear me now?
Oh yeah, you're loud and clear.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I just can't see you.
All right, I know.
All right, I'm back in thesaddle.
How about that?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's what she said, yeah.
I heard that.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But pop and circumstance.
Yeah Okay, you're a Poppin'Circumstance.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, okay, you were first year orchestra.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Huh, no, I wasn't.
You know, I played thesaxophone and I was probably
like sixth or seventh chair,like I mean, out of like eight
or nine.
So I wasn't, I wasn't.
I wasn't the worst, but I waspretty bad.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I picked on band kids .

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I was only in middle school, but like at the same
time I was only in it, my mommade me choose between that or
Spanish, and I chose band.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
And your daughter speaks Spanish.
What?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
are we doing?
I know Well, of course.
Well, I'm not mad that Ilearned how to play music.
I'm not Like I still know howto read music.
But I'm just saying I stillknow how to read music.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So you learned Poppin' Circumstance.
Did you learn Poppin'Circumstance in the band?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
No, that wasn't a song that we played.
Okay, did you learn Poppin'Circumstance in the band?
No, that wasn't a song that weplayed.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, I used to always.
I used to always ask the bandkids like who was first chair,
and then if you wasn't firstchair, I'll just tell you trash.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's a fair.
My brother Tars.
Tars was a very good saxophoneplayer.
Like he was very, he was first,first, second chair and he put
it this way he was so good, uh,like, uh, in middle school, you
know, you had beginner,intermediate, advanced man, yeah
, and sometimes there would be.
You could be in sixth grade andmaybe be an intermediate or in

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a very rare position in advance,but like he was the type to
where he was when he was inseventh grade.
He was an advanced man becausehe was.
It was concert band andstevenson's very good.
Stevenson has a really goodband too.
So that's the other part.
Like stevenson's band is one ofthe best.
Stevenson yeah, they.

(19:03):
But stevens has done macy's day, them at southwest dekalb.
That's a real thing like that.
That's there's a rivalry withinthe sports, but the reality is
the band.
Those are like the two bestbands, probably metro atlanta,
like they're very good.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Those are very good bands like did I tell you the
story about how I almost went toMLK?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Really no, I'm not.
Why are you going to move tothe east side?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I wasn't.
My mom got a job offer.
She was friends with aprincipal who took over and she
considered taking the job, whichthen would have allowed me to
transfer without having to sitout a year.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
MLK.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
And then I said eh, it's probably a little too rough
over there for me.
Let me stick here in thecountry.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
MLK, I mean, they were another one.
When I think of the east sidesports at least, well, I mean
school-wise too.
The toughest schools in DeKalbCounty are McNair.
Mcnair is the first one thatcomes to my mind.
Oh look, it was the plus thing.
Are we going to get some?
I don't know.
We'll see McNair.

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I know Columbia has this like.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
They had a good women's basketball program in
the mid-late 2000s.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, because Columbia is closer to Atlanta,
but it's DeKalb.
It is kind of Atlanta, but it'sDeKalb County.
Still right, that's whereFuture went.
Chris Tucker went there.
A couple of famous people wentto Columbia.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm thinking about moving to DeSant.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I'm sure you would now Desa.
I'm sure you would now Columbia, mcnair, tri-cities in the cab.
That's Atlanta, yeah.
But the better schools in thecab were always Shambly Boink.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh hey, I'm just sitting here thinking let's get
out of this, Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, it's still Atlanta.
A little Atlanta history.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
No, let's get to the combine.
First things first.
This might be the shortestFalcons first segment ever, but
I just want to say a big roundof applause for the Falcons

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brass for making the decision togo to the combine with a
defensive focus and leave theoffensive coaches at home.
That's all.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I got.
They're liars, that's all I got.
They're liars.
Like I said, they the top guyfrom fucking channel two said
that he saw the offensive linecoach there, which the reality
is too.
We should be focused on.
We should Well.
Right, how do you not want tolook at the offensive people?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Regardless, there should be somebody there looking
at that, Like one way oranother for your pro personnel
department, because some ofthese guys will get cut, some of
these guys won't get drafted,some of these guys will be free
agents in four years.
Like you still need to getinformation on these guys.
That's one of the things thatthey said made, uh, the Patriots

(22:22):
so great was they would use thecombine, the pre-draft process,
for free agents in four or fiveyears.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
And I bet, to prepare for teams.
If a guy was a major player,like I'm sure anyone that saw
Jaden Daniels in the regularseason, after six, seven games
even I mean it could be thestart of the season you still
had a good understanding of whohe was and how he operated.
And like little shit, likeyou're almost scouting against

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them too at the same time.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Absolutely, because, I mean hell, the person you may
be wanting to talk to may not bethere when it's your pick,
because the only person who'sguaranteed to get the guy that
they want is the person with thefirst pick Correct.
So I just wanted to put thatout there and hopefully this
franchise is headed, headed inthe right direction, because you

(23:18):
know, I might just pursuecareer opportunities elsewhere,
you know, in another city, wheretheir football team is good
enough for me to get seasontickets.
You know, I think I could getsome Jets season tickets.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, I don't think that those cost very much.
I went to the Jets game, notlast season but the season
before that, and it cost morefor me to get from my hotel in
Manhattan to the game than itdid for my tickets and I sat on
the front row on like the 40, 50yard line.
It was raining that day, butstill.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'm getting serious.
It wasn't raining when youbought the ticket, or was it?
Yeah, you're saying I went outagain.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It wasn't Bingo, bingo.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know, honestly, I base my city selection on my
ability to afford, to be able toafford or have the opportunity
to get season tickets.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Really, yeah, I mean, I know why you're a big fan of
the ball.
Whoa, that's crazy.
I didn't say balls, I said ball.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
You never know, it's a different world.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
There might be some of those that exist too, but I,
you know, I don't know anythingabout it, and so yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
In saying that I would not turn down a job in New
York if it paid the right, ifit paid enough.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
For sure.
I mean, that's a place that isdesirable to live.
You got to be making the moneyto live there, though there's no
doubt you got to make the money.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I was talking to my partner and he's looking for a
spot up there and all of thesedifferent fees you know first
last month a building fee, acity of New York fee, and then

(25:40):
you look at like your taxbreakdown.
You live in a city of NewYork're paying more taxes.
You gotta pay to live there,unless you're into projects and
you're just kind of stuck there.
Where else can you go?
You can't come up with 8 racksto take out a lease anywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean they're giving you a little bit more right.
You got everything at yourdisposal at, for the most part,
most times of the day.
I that's like the thing.
To me it's always been theconvenience factor.
It's a convenience fee.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's what it is like, convenience fee just like
california taxes you for theweather.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
And beach access 24-7 .

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, I know, but Atlanta doesn't have a tax.
There's not an Atlanta tax, anAtlanta tax, they just add more
onto everything.
Yeah, you just get to make moremoney here.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I went to a before my daughter's Black History Month
program on Friday.
Her mother needed to.
She got a car finally.
Congratulations to her.
But we had to go to NavyFederal to go get the check for

(27:04):
the loan.
We had to go there to get thecheck for the loan.
You know, our grandfather wasmilitary.
But point being, we had to gothere, and so we were in Camp
Creek.
I hadn't been to Camp Creek ina minute.
My cousin used to live there,but I don't ever have a reason
to go over there, and so we wentover there.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You don't go to U-Bar, no more.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, it's funny, we passed it and she had never been
.
And I told her I was like, ohman, I've got some memories
there, but no, I don't go toU-Bar but we go there.
So we had probably about anhour and 30 to kill and she
swore that all she had to do wasgo in to grab it, like it was
basically ready.
It was nothing to sit down, no,nothing, just basically she'd

(27:55):
get the check and the programwas at 1030.
We got over there about nine.
So if that was only going totake about that long you know
it's an in and out Well, whatare we going to do?
We certainly weren't going tobe having sex or anything.
So the thing is, at that pointwe got to figure out what we're
going to do.
So let's get food always right,like that's the number one

(28:16):
thing.
And there's no waffle houseover there, which I found a
little confusing.
I was like, really there's nowaffle house over here, but
there really isn't.
The closest one is old nap, youdon't.
And so, nah, I did.
It's cheaper than anything wewould have been able to get over
there.
And either way, we found a spotthat was brand new, brand
fucking new.

(28:36):
I didn't even know it.
It's called whisk and like wewent there, it looked like a
place that you'd see on Love,hip Hop, any of those shows.
It reminded me of what old LadyGang kind of used to be.
I had only been to old LadyGang, for instance, once, and I

(28:56):
lived right above it for threeyears.
Point is, we go in.
Pretty nice, it was nice.
It was clearly black-owned, andI was very somewhat aware of
that when we pulled up.
Pretty nice, like it was nice.
It was clearly black on and Iwas very somewhat aware of that
when we pulled up.
It was nice, overpriced brunchfood basically, and like I
hadn't been to brunch in a longtime, mm-hmm.

(29:17):
So we go in.
We got no alcohol, I gotsparkling water, we got an app
and we both got an entree.
We got no alcohol, I gotsparkling water, we got an app
and we both got an entree.
I paid $100.
Yeah, seuss, yeah, but this isone of those type of places this
is what I'm trying to explainit but I didn't know how new it
was.
I mean, I don't go to CampCreek, so I had never heard of

(29:38):
it.
I'd never heard of this place.
That place opened up onJanuaryuary 31st, had no idea,
and what I'll say is that thefood was good though.
So now it's giving me an ideaof damn.
If I ever got somebody that'sin from out of town or something
, I could go here becausethey'll be impressed.
I won't be.
The food wasn't bad, I'm justsaying, but like this is a place

(29:59):
to take a woman, I got a spotfor you that's down in that area
, in Camp Creek.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
It's in College Park, it's right off 85.
Close enough.
It's called Buttermilk Biscuit.
It's on Virginia Ave.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I already heard of it .
I know exactly where you'retalking about.
Have you been?
I've never been, but I knowwhat it is.
I know the owner.
Really yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
How so he dated?
In high school Hmm.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
So I know about that place because it's obviously
it's right there by Sponduvans.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
You know, and.
Malone's and stuff.
I've been thinking about going.
I just think it might not comeoff the right way.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
We were over there once and I picked I think I was
picking them up, actually it wasChristmas I was picking them up
and we were trying to decidewhere we were going to go.
So, yeah, I knew I know whatyou're talking about literally,
because we chose another spot.
But like, yeah, I wasinterested because I was like

(31:11):
looked at the menu, I was likenot bad, like you know pretty
decent I'm going to check it outone of these days.
Yeah, I know exactly whatyou're talking about, though.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Okay these days.
Yeah, I know exactly whatyou're talking about, though.
Any other takeaways from?
Do you have any takeaways fromthe combine?
I got a few written down here.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, just Quinn Ewers' poor performance throwing
the football.
I know that people gave him alittle bit better of a grade but
based on the clips I saw, Imean that it's not.
I can't judge anyone off of twoback-to-back snaps with no
defense and guys running decentroutes.
But you know, it's still prettysad to see you with no pressure
, no nothing, just stepping backand missing throws.

(31:56):
I thought that that was one ofthe things.
The other thing was who'sTexans' wide receiver too?
Golden Jet or Bond.
Yeah, bond Bond came out andsaid he was going to run with
Worthy Ram.
He said I might run a 4-1-9.
And then he ran a 4-4.

(32:16):
I mean, he wasn't even close.
And there's nothing wrong withbeing confident.
I think everybody should comein with confidence.
And that leads to my next point.
You go ahead and list yoursEverybody talking about Shador
and the fact that two top 10 ortop 15 teams that basically came

(32:37):
out and said yeah, he seemed alittle cocky, he seemed
basically like he was there.
I just don't believe that.
I don't believe that personally, because he's got a dad that
was in the NFL, and whethereverybody thought he was a cocky
NFL player because hedefinitely played with flair.
That's just so hard to believethat somebody like that would be

(33:00):
coached up.
He did play well in college,regardless of what people want
to say.
He did it on two differentlevels of the d1 but like at two
different programs.
It's hard to believe that hecame in thinking that he was
just the shit.
I just don't believe that.
That's the way he the interviewprocess went.
I don't believe that all right.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So, uh, that was one of the things I had, so let's
start with the one you rememberDeion talked about when the
Giants gave him that thickplaybook that he needed to
memorize.
He asked them where are y'allpicking at?
They said 10.
Oh, I ain't going to beat herAgain.

(33:42):
That's Deion.
That's not primetime hall offamer yet.
He probably wasn't poor becausehe was at Florida State and he
got paid.
But that's a poor kid comingout of South Florida just trying
to make it well, he definitelywasn't, poor Lee.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
You saw his draft day gold and unless he was wearing
that shit that was going to makehis neck break out.
I'm going to assume it was real.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Nah, if his neck broke out, it was from the curl,
not the goal.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's a fair point too.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
But so I tell that story to say maybe the team that
Shador was talking to he knewthey weren't going to draft him.
They may have been scouting himfor later on to better prepare
for him, or he knew he was, hewas going to be gone before they
had a pick because not only didthey turn up for you hold on.

(34:40):
Not only do top picks havecertain assurances, but hall
Hall of Famer Shadur, who wasmentored by Tom Brady, who was a
part owner in the Raiders, butmore importantly, whose dad is
Deion Sanders, gold jacketargument for one of the greatest
football players of all time,probably the greatest athlete of
all time.

(35:00):
He gets to dictate stuff, kindof like Archie Manning.
Like Archie Manning couldn'tlick the dirt off Deion Sanders
cleats, couldn't touch the turfhome as a player, so Archie can
swing his big dick around to gethis his, his son, where he
needs him to be.
It's no different than Deion,it's just different because it's

(35:23):
Deion.
But also Todd McShay talkedabout the Shador comments and,
based on what McShay said, ittells me that he talked to the
executives who made thestatement and his explanation
was they didn't say it in anegative way.

(35:46):
Like yeah, the story was put outthere and it carried that way,
but he said it wasn't negative.
They were saying that a lot ofkids come in there and that's
their biggest job interview oftheir life.
So they're on edge, they'rejust eager, they're happy, like
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever you say, you know whatI mean.
But Shadur was very just,comfortable in himself and it's

(36:11):
like hey, I am who I am, I amhim.
So, like y'all are interviewingfor the opportunity to have my
services, not I'm interviewingfor the opportunity to work for
your company, like he's doing.
He's looking at it and thesearen't McShay's words but, based
on what he said, I took it asit's.
Like I know I'm getting draftedhigh, so y'all need to impress
me more than I need to impressy'all because the film is the

(36:38):
film, the show.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
it didn't have to be McShay's words.
That's the point.
We can view and evaluate thisstuff with the best of them in
reality and I did not get to seeMcShay's breakdown from his
comments that did get reported,but at the same time, even based
on what you're saying, thatmakes a ton of sense too.

(37:01):
It just it wasn't a.
He's interviewing for the job,it's a I'm going to get the job.
It's a matter of who wants mefirst.
It's not me.
I'm not picking you becauseyou're picking me anyways.
Yeah, so it's just kind of.
I don't even want to sell youanything because there's nothing

(37:21):
for me to sell.
I've already done that work onthe field.
I am the son of Deion Sanders.
I've been covered highly fromthe moment that I touched down
on a college campus, whether itwas an HBCU or not, and so like
I can understand exactly how hewould feel from that perspective

(37:43):
.
Like I mean, I'm not him, butI'm just saying, like I can
understand exactly how he wouldfeel from that perspective.
Like I mean, I'm not him, butI'm just saying like I can
understand exactly how he wouldfeel.
And so it makes it, it checks,it, checks off for me and he
might also because his dad's thehonest answer he might already
know something that they don'teither.
And but which?
But the only reason I say whatI said I I didn't and I didn't

(38:06):
mean to like interject whileyou're talking, but like the
other thing is well what ifsomebody trades up?
what if somebody trades up?
I mean, that's kind of thatwould be my only thing.
What if you?
You never know, I don't know ifthe falcons interviewed julio,
right like, but like they tradedup and got him at six.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
So like that does happen to like that does happen
but they still got authentic himbecause I'd rather, if I'm
interviewing players, I'd ratherbe turned off or not even
turned off, because McShay evensaid they weren't bothered by it
.
They weren't turned off by thebehavior, it was just different.
Mcshay even said they weren'tbothered by it.
They weren't turned off by thebehavior.

(38:44):
It was just different.
It was different than mostplayers.
I'd rather be taken aback byyour level of comfort than wowed
by how you just said all theright things.
You know, I'd much rather yoube slumped in your chair, but
then when I say something thatpiques your interest, you pop up

(39:04):
and you get to talking.
You know, I mean to get excitedversus you sitting there like
this yes, sir, and so on.
This play, this is what we do.
Yeah, this is how I think.
This is the person I want to bein the community.
I want to start a non-profitsoon as I get there.
Uh, I want somebody to be likeyou know how, you know how, like
niggas who ain't never been,nowhere are, and like you hear

(39:26):
them in interviews, like, like,like, ant-man, and not to say
that ant-man hasn't wentanywhere.
I think ant-man is like theanomaly who's been so like good
at life that he can beauthentically himself, and he
doesn't really get hurt becauseant could get terrible pr.
He doesn't get it.
It's not even in our topics.
There's one that's hot.
I didn't write it down.

(39:49):
Don't gotta talk about it.
We can, though, but anyways,not many people are like that,
but you gotta know, when Ant-Mansat down with some of them
executives they're like man,what the fuck is wrong with this
nigga?
Don't you know he could be.
He might talk himself out ofthe first number one overall
pick because of how he's acting.

(40:10):
People are like now, people arelike Ant-Man.
With all these texts and allthese cursing fines, he might
not be the face of the league.
Ant's like bro, I don't wantthat shit.
Can't hear you, can't hear you,I can't hear you, I can't hear
you, I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know who was beating their meat if he did
fall.
Steve Kerr, the team with thesecond pick that year.
Steve Kerr, because yep him.
Bob Myers, everybody in Oaklandand San Francisco as a whole.
They were in unison to the sametype of video.

(40:52):
If Minnesota was stupid enoughbecause Washington probably
wouldn't have won, I guessLaMelo would have been probably
the pick.
That would be my guess.
Not with Cat there, likethere's no way they were taking
Watt, If Minnesota hooked upGolden State again because they
gave them, Steph man, look theywould have.

(41:15):
I don't even know where KlayThompson was at on the contract.
They would have been trying totrade that nigga that night.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
That was Achilles ATL Klay.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, but he got the extension.
Did he get the extension thatyear?
It doesn't matter.
But right that bag of bones.
They would have found a way toshoot that nigga out.
That bag of bones is gettingout of here.
Yeah, they would have been likeoh no, you're gone, brother.
Or they would have tried tomaybe make it work in him at the
three, of course, like that'san option too, but like Clay,

(41:49):
clay, hey Clay, don't even comeback.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Don't even come back to Oakland.
It's called a movers.
We don't know where you'regoing, but unless you plan on
keeping that house, pack it up,buddy.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Actually back it up, buddy.
Actually his value was as highas it could have been then.
Anyways, post, post that injury.
So yeah, they would have.
Man the orlando magic mighthave given them a pick that
turned into pavo banchero orsomething.
Eventually like no, becausethat is what they would have did
like they would have gottenthat nigga out of there.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And here's the thing Our sucker LeBron laid GM into
trading away a pick or two,we'll see, and I don't think
they would have starved theleague for their best deal,
because Big Bob's beef was justlike hold on.
He's already cheap.
We know what his next salarywill be.

(42:42):
We just actually need to bespecific in what we get for Clay
to get this team rolling untilwe can get Ant to year three.
So you may not take the bestdeal on paper, but you may take
the best deal on the court.
Oh, by the way, the Hawks wonthe Luka trade.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I disagree, but they won it from the standpoint of
he's not a Hawks.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
No, no, no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no no no no,okay I'll tell you why.
When we get to our next nbasegment, oh actually, no, we're
not even an nba.

(43:34):
Last thing from uh the combinego ahead um travis hunter saying
that he can play both sides ofthe ball and that's crazy, and
um that what he would do isharder than what shohei otani is
doing in the nfl.
I'm sure it was a question thatwas asked to him and I, you

(43:57):
know, I found that whole piecekind of interesting because the
response was pitching in themajor league baseball and being
a power hitter is harder thanjust playing receiver or corner.
Sure, but I never, ever in mylife subscribed to pitchers

(44:17):
can't hit, because I playedbaseball and a lot of guys were
good baseball players who werepitchers, who could hit, and
then all of a sudden they becomepitchers and they can't hit
anymore.
No, what Shohei Ohtani is doingprobably could be way more

(44:39):
common if we allowed it tohappen.
But we don't allow pitchers tohit.
Parley, pete, I know you canremember this, greg Maddox was a
good hitting pitcher, like hecould hit, like he might jack
one every now and then.
Can't hear you.
Can't hear you Nothing.

(45:01):
I think you said Max Freed.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, can you?

Speaker 2 (45:06):
hear me.
Yeah.
Point being the reason why whatTravis Hunter is attempting to
do is difficult.
It's not because the skill setsdon't transfer.
It is the wear and tear on thebody, the endurance required to

(45:27):
do it.
But it hasn't been done.
Travis Hunter is the firstperson to do it at this level,
at this degree.
We say it can't be done becausewe haven't seen it, because we
don't try it, because I trulybelieve this.
As the African-Americans cameinto sports, we created these

(45:50):
weird rules to, like, give morepeople an opportunity to get a
chance to play.
Like there's no reason why youcan't play football two ways
Back in the day, when we didn'thave all this medical stuff we
have.
You know no reason why pitcherscan't hit, no reason why
quarterbacks could never run.
You know, and we started thisleague in the six-back offense

(46:12):
with running quarterbacks.
You know there's no reason whyyou need to go to college to go
to a pre-professionalprofessional sports.
You know what I mean.
You don't have.
You should not have to be agood student if you're good at
sports to go play sports at thehighest level, right, I think

(46:32):
these were all things to givecertain players an opportunity.
I'm not talking about KevinLove and JJ Reddick.
I'm not talking about theseguys.
I'm talking about you know, a,a bayheim son.
You know those guys who arereally at the end of the bench
to keep the gpa up on the team.
You know those guys football.

(46:54):
We're talking football any sportpoint being you play both sides
on a basketball yeah, but theclearinghouse you, you know they
may take that shooter with the4.0.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm fucking with you, but I'm just saying it's a
different sport still.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
But even in football I'm saying that the thing is
well if it was traditional toplay two sides of the ball they
do that in high school anyways.
Some high schools we didn't doit my last couple years of high
school.
Only a couple people played twoways.
We played one side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
You know.
But you know, depends on howbig or good your school is.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Our team was not big and our team was not good.
More people should have playedtwo ways.
Hey, that's crazy.
The point being is that theycreate these, these rules that
aren't like real rules, justlike in baseball, bro.
You know you can't, you're notsupposed to celebrate watch the
home run too long.
Why is that a?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
rule.
Well, bat flips too, or justthey're just, but baseball has
the most unspoken rules of anysport too so, like the rules are
protecting a certaininstitution or how they want the
game to be played.

Speaker 2 (48:08):

Speaker 1 (48:10):
For sure, and that's the oldest one in America,
though too.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Because you remember the World Baseball Classic when
it's all these, when it's notthe MLB.
So the white guys are on oneteam.
Really, yeah, they be cuttingup to the world baseball class.
You know what I'm saying.
They get a home run, he watchit, he throw that thing in the
air and everybody's having fun.
It looks cool Because that'stheir Olympics.

(48:34):
But that's how baseball reallysupposed to be.
Like Kenny Lofton with thechain hanging out when he's
rounding the base.
Ken Griffey with the chainhanging out when he's rounding
the base.
Ken Griffey with the diamonds,with the hat backwards.
Barry Bonds with the danglycross the only real nigga who
can rock the dangly cross.
Shout out to the NBA forincorporating Barry Bonds into
All-Star in Oakland.
That was fire.
San Francisco, that was fire.

(48:56):
He deserves his flowers, goat,sorry.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Both goats.
Him and Jerry because those are, the fact that they are Bay
Area legends, but those are Imean, those are, you could argue
, really the greatest of alltime, on both sides.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Hey Dawg, what do you think?
Their nights out together werelike White women galore.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
But, you know, does Jerry strike you more?
I mean, jerry went to an HBCU,not that that means anything,
but I'm just saying Barry forsure.
Like I know, barry was all upin white ass because he's a
baseball player, but he's likethe most famous baseball player
and Jerry's the most you knowhe's the most.
He's the greatest wide receiverever and, like I said, you

(49:41):
could argue, the greatestfootball player ever.
His records won't be touched.
Like Mahomes can catch Brady,nobody's catching Rice ever,
ever.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Check the chat, oops.
Yeah, it's got to where he'susing his phone, so it's not as
easy to check the chat, but Idid have to send him some
comments.
This guy here messing up ourproduct yeah, you can get this
on.
Hold on.
This man's confused Comments.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It's different on the phone, man.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I believe you.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
All right, there you go.
Oh, doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Um, yeah, that doesn't surprise me uh, last
thing, did you hear ocho cinco'scomments in?
Uh in response to travis hunter?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
oh no, I thought you're about to talk about
camera.
No, I didn't hear about travishunter.
What did what Hunter say toOcho Cinco?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Nothing.
No, he just said him playingtwo sides in the NFL is harder
than what Shohei Ohtani playingtwo sides in Major League
Baseball.
I highly disagree.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho Cinco said the hardest twothings to do is to hit a
baseball and keep a woman happy.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
But that's what makes Shohei's that much more.
He's the fact that he's great.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
You did not.
You're not even responding towhat I'm saying.
I can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah, you said that Ocho Cinco said that I can't
hear you.
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
now, yeah, you said that.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Ocho Cinco said that what Travis Hunter was doing was
harder than no, Ocho Cinco saidthe hardest thing to do is to
hit a baseball and keep a womanhappy.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Okay, I agree with that keep a woman happy.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Okay, I agree with that Sure, and then you just
said that makes it why Ocho Imean Ohtani was right.
I was trying to get you torespond to the second part of
what Ocho, or respond to exactlywhat Ocho said no Travis Hunter
, no Ohtani, but it seems likeyou're running from the topic.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Are you talking about Travis Hunter and his woman
getting fucked by other people?
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I just think Ocho was making a general statement
about the difficulties ofkeeping women happy.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
But I get that.
But your initial thing.
I'm trying to compare it tothat, but it almost seems like
it could have been a joke onTravis Hunter's expense because
his woman was out with other men.
So that's, why Does that playinto that at all?

Speaker 2 (52:29):
No, no, no.
That's not Ocho.
That's not Ocho as a mediapersonality.
Ocho don't bash people, but I'msaying you can use it that way,
but he wasn't.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
But him saying that to go with it could make that
regardless.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
No, it had nothing.
That had nothing to do withTravis.
He was trying to talk about howdifficult it is to keep a woman
happy, and I tried to bait youinto saying something about that
and you just totally juststepped on it.
You ruined it.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I think it's.
How difficult is it really?
I mean, it is You're quittingyours at the combine.
No man, no, I'm not.
I'm not missing passes.
Maybe I dropped the ball, man,but I didn't miss any passes.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
You're Cam Newton at the Super Bowl.
Man You're fumbling.
You're Julio against Philly.
It's just going.
The Super Bowl, man You'refumbling.
You're Julio against Phillies.
Just go in between your hands,man, You're not catching it
Pause.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Oh man, that is crazy .

Speaker 2 (53:33):
You hear what Jerry Jones?
Oh, not here.
Did you see what the Cowboysdid?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yes, they created $53 , $54 million in cap with the
restructuring of their twohighest paid players.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Does that tell us that maybe Dallas did have a
plan when they signed theseplayers to these large contracts
, because they knew they wereinvested in them and now they
can play with the money kind oflike Howie does Not as well?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, because they could have just paid.
I know that Dak got paid prettyhandsomely up front because he
made the most of anyone lastyear, but like how he does it
different how he's paid.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Him and Lori, they're literally paying these guys up
front.
I got you, but let's stay onDallas.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Sure, I tell you what it makes sense for why Jerry
didn't.
He waited to pay Dak last year,but I think maybe they knew
that Mike wasn't going to be thecoach next year unless they did
win, and obviously he got hurtand all that other stuff.
But like that could be the case, because everybody was like,
well, you could have just gavethem both their contracts in the

(54:46):
summer, which would have freedup cap anyways, because you
redid their deals, and then youcould have signed Derrick Henry.
But now this is what'sconsidered, would you say,
probably a pretty weak class.
I mean, they're not going to beable to unless they like Dowdle
and they're going to draft anRB1, your running game is still

(55:08):
suspect.
Now you've lost a longtime guybecause Zach Martin I don't
think he's retired officially,but it seems like he might be
done.
Like now you've got to.
Those are like needs.
That's another need.
Now that you have your defense,you have to pay Michael Parsons
, still with the assumptionyou're not trading him.
You got to pay him, you've got.

(55:28):
You still need a wide receiverto him.
Who knows, maybe davante adams,and somehow they'll pay.
But like they're, I don't know.
I mean, and now you're in adivision with the team that's
the best team in football.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
So and speaking of the best team in football, they
just paid their running back.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
But not.
But see, he keeps doing thisand this is what I'm saying.
He's giving him all this money.
They ripped up the next twoyears and I know that maybe
there was only the next yearbeing guaranteed, but they
ripped it up, gave him a raise,guaranteed damn near all of it
and gave him $15 million inescalators to do it again and
again.
But like they're setting theygave Bond three years, 51.

(56:11):
Like they're setting themselvesup with the new cap, the new TV
money that's dipping in, it'ssetting up to where the Eagles
can keep doing what they'redoing.
And that's why I like what they.
I like this GM and CoachConville.
Every team in the NFL is justlike a model GM owner.
Not coach my bad GM owner.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
And that's the thing, though.
Ideally, if you get the GMright, the coach should be
replaceable, because you knowthe type of coach that you need
for your structure.
That's coming from the top down.
But oftentimes the GM becomesreplaceable because the coach is
the guy and it gets funky.

(56:52):
But credit to Philly for havingan organizational structure and
organizational culture thatthey stick to, and once you
don't work there anymore, youdon't work there, and that's
great for running anorganization.
Now you may have hurt feelingsfor those who get let go of too

(57:17):
soon, but the great thing aboutwhat Philly is doing is they are
treating their alumni with love.
You know they drafted Trotter'skid kid.
They didn't have to do that.
You can't hear me.

(57:41):
I can now the Eagles also.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
If there's one thing about them they're not built for
, in my opinion, they just wantit right.
But like they're not reallybuilt for for, in my opinion,
they just want it right, butlike they're not really built
for dynasty football, they'regoing to be good, but dynasty
football requires you and it'sno shots to Jalen Hurts.

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I mean, I had my name on hereas Love Hurts.
It always requires that guy.
It requires the quarterback tobe top three, no matter what.
That's what the dynasties we'veseen.
It's Mahomes, it's Troy.
Troy wasn't top three but likePeyton Manning, and Peyton

(58:25):
Manning was top three and thatwasn't a dynasty right like but
good.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
But Troy was the point of a dynasty and he wasn't
top three.
Troy, who?
Troy Aikman?
Oh, troy Aikman?
Yeah, he wasn't top three, bro.
Go look at the numbers.
He wasn't top three.
He's a Hall of Famer.
I got you.
And if Jalen Hurts keeps thisup, he's a Hall of Famer Like

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you.
Don't like Jalen Hurts keepsthis up.
He's a Hall of Famer Like you.
Don't like Jalen Hurts becauseyou don't like the way it looks
week in and week out and hold on.
And because of the way he playsand his limitations as a passer
, we look at it as worse, like,I honestly believe, an athletic
black quarterback with somepassing limitations.
I honestly believe an athleticblack quarterback with some

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passing limitations, even withsome great aspects of their
passing game, is seen negativelyLike Tua.
Tua has limitations in his gamebut some people look at Tua as
a better quarterback.
I mean he took Jalen's spot.
Same draft went around beforehim.
Tua can't throw the deep ball.
Tyreek Hill would love to haveJalen Hurts as the quarterback.

(59:37):
Jalen Hurts is arguably a topthree deep ball thrower in the
game.
Like it's beautiful.
So I think his limitations areamplified.
But if we look at theproduction and, more importantly
, we look at the W's, he's topfive.

(59:58):
If we're looking at W's and Iknow he's going to be in
everybody's top five going intothis season because he just won
the Super Bowl, I got all ofthat.
Cool, cool, cool.
But if the name of the game iswinning and we don't care about
style points and in Philly wehave a fan base, so we're

(01:00:18):
getting butts in seats, jerseyssold and eyes on the tube, give
the fuck what it looks likeJalen Hurts is doing his job.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
But so you just made a great point, though you
brought up Troy Eggman.
Of all people.
That's how the Eagles havebuilt their team.
They built their team to belike the 90s Cowboys great
offensive line, great runningback, good receiver and great.
Cowboys had a great receiverokay, but Eagles have a good one

(01:00:48):
.
I can't say that AJ Brown isgreat.
Yet, in my opinion, I don'tthink he's great, I think he's
good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
He has potential to be great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
They've got two good receivers.
How about that?
Because I couldn't tell you whothe Cowboys wide receiver two
was during the early 90s.
I know they had Moose Johnsonat tight end or fullback or
whatever, but they had Wycheckor whatever was tied in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, that's okay.
Get to the major point, though.
We don't care about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah, the major point is that it's kind of a.
It's a similarly built team andso, yes, I could see how Jalen
Hurts could fall under a TroyAikman mold.
If they continue to win, He'llbe looked at the same way Like
and I'm pretty sure Troyprobably has definitely a Super
Bowl MVP Emma didn't win MVPevery time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
But you said they're not built for a dynasty and then
you compared them to the 90sCowboys, who were a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Well, I'm saying that's how the team is built.
I don't know how that's goingto be sustainable in today's
football, because running thefootball doesn't win you
championships.
They were able to do it thisyear, but name the last few
teams that have done it to wherea running back was the best
player on the team.
It just doesn't happen thatoften but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
But in the super bowl they threw the ball.
So even though their runningback is the best player on their
team, similarly to bal, therunning back may be the best
player, but the quarterback.
I'm saying maybe depends on whoyou ask, though somebody might
say that I won't.

(01:02:21):
But the point being is thedifference between the running
back maybe being the betterplayer and the difference
between the quarterback to whatis great enough to be, to to to
get you there, is so narrow thatit doesn't matter if Jalen
hurts isn't the best player,because on any given day he can

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be the best player on the fieldand win Superbowl or Superbowl
MVP.
Remember in the Superbowl helost.
He was a better passer thanPatrick Mahomes.
That game he did not playbetter than Patrick Mahomes
because he had to fumble.
He had an interception too, buthe had to fumble, which really
like lost the game, but hepassed the ball better than
Patrick Mahomes in that game.
So Jalen has shown that on anygiven day he can throw it with

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the best of Pause.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Yeah, he can toss, it .

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, he got one Super Bowl MVP traded.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Sure, but I guess all I'm saying is this they are a
team.
I think that's going to be verygood.
I would be shocked if theEagles repeat it, and that's
just my opinion.
A lot of stuff went right, it'sthe NFL man.
Yeah, it's two-way parity.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, nfl is not a repeat league, but you know
you're talking about a team thatmaybe lost it all, a team that
looked like they may be startinga fire sale and getting ready
to pay a quarterback more moneythan he's worth.
Debo to Washington 4-5.

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What does that tell you aboutthe 49ers?

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That they are further away from being what they were
than what they are.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Okay, now say that in English, so we understand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
They're further away from being the Super Bowl
contender that they were andthey're closer to the team that
they were this season.
They had injuries, of course,but mainly being their best
player being injured pretty muchthe majority of the year, being
their best player, beinginjured pretty much the majority
of the year.
And for what it's worth, debo,he had one great season.

(01:04:39):
He got paid off one greatseason.
He's a Swiss Army knife.
In a weird way, he's whatTaysom Hill is, but better,
because he's actually a widereceiver.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
No, no, no.
Let's not say he's what TaysomHill is, but better, right,
because he's actually a widereceiver.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Let's not say he's what TaysomHill is, but better let's say no
, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
He didn't have one game that was as impactful as
Taysom Hill's one good game thisyear.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Maybe last year.
But he's Percy Harvin onsteroids, yeah, but he's not
even that great of a returner.
But Taysom Hill, taysom Hill,like try to no, no, no, we just
can't make him like good.
Taysom Hill, like Taysom Hillcan't be the standard.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I'm not saying he's Taysom Hill.
I'm saying that Taysom Hillhe's.
If Taysom Hill was really awide receiver, I know, what
you're saying, but Taysom Hillcan't be the bar.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Deebo or somebody else has to be the bar, not
fucking Taysom Hill All right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
It was a good pickup for the Commanders.
I like the pickup for afifth-round pick.
He's got basically one lastyear.
We're talking about the Ninersstill, I know we are, but I
think it was a good pickup forthem.
I think that, again, like Isaid, that the 49ers are closer
to what they were this year thanwhat they have been, which was
a Super Bowl contender.
They've got to get ready to payPurdy all that money and at the

(01:06:09):
same time, either that or hecould depending on how Shanahan
feels he could really flip theswitch and trade them If he
really wanted to, because theywould get one of those first
picks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
You're going to ask for arts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
You could say that.
You could say that maybe theypay Darnold and bring him back
and give him a three-year dealfor a hundred but give him 55
guaranteed.
So he's really there for a yearand a half, kind of, and you
can still kind of make your mindup, as opposed to being
capstrung by a guy that you'regiving a five-year $300, right,

(01:06:44):
like I mean.
You know kink for Carson I justnah well, they wouldn't do, he
wouldn't.
For Carson, I just I nah well,they wouldn't do, he wouldn't do
that.
But but, but they can bringDonald back, is all I'm saying.
I mean there's, it'd still becompetitive, still be good.
They're probably pissed stillabout the Trey Lansing, but like

(01:07:10):
I mean they're not, I don'tthink they're going to do that.
Like I think that they're goingto pay the money to Purdy, but
like they could absolutely dothat.
I don't 100% rule it out.
It depends on how really goodthey feel about it.
Because his resume stacks up towhere he could say fuck Dak
Prescott, because he's done morethan Dak Prescott and he could.

(01:07:35):
He's been second in MVP votingjust like Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
But who do you think is better?
You went out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Nothing Today.
I'd rather have Purdy for oneseason.
Yeah, without Kyle Shanahanthat's not what you asked.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I mean I'm asking the second question.
You know what?
I think he said he'd take Purdybecause we couldn't hear him.
We can hear you now.
It just comes in and out, kindof like sex.
It just comes in and out, youknow.

(01:08:31):
All right.
Oh, so it looks like Clevelandis looking for a quarterback.
Do you think they killedDeshaun Watson's contract?
Do you think Deshaun Watsongets another chance to be a
starter in Roger Goodale's NFL?

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Yeah, he'll start another NFL game.
I don't think he started hislast game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
No, no, no, no, no.
A chance to be a starter, Notstart another game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Like going in 100%.
This is our QB1.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I'm saying we're going to bring this guy in for a
competition.
I don't think he plays foranother team, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yeah, I do.
I think he gets another shot,no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I don't think he plays for another team because
he's been so bad in Cleveland.
He got hurt, he was dancing andstuff.
They re-aggravate the Achillesor didn't have the boot on.
Whatever it was that they'regoing to try to do to not pay
him, because there's just awhole conspiracy against Deshaun
Watson.
He must know what happened toKennedy.
But, To compete for a startingjob.

(01:09:49):
If he doesn't get the startingjob, I don't think he'll play on
the team.
I don't think Deshaun Watsongets to be a backup.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
It seems like it's happened too many times.
I just look at RG3.
He went to Cleveland and got achance to start and did so.
I don't want to say that theinjuries are the end-all, be-all
for him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
RG3 conducted himself accordingly on the massage
table.
I think what comes with thatand the feel in the locker room
and the feel around the buildingand the fan base, I think
Deshaun Watson's allegations andthe things that he paid for are

(01:10:28):
too much to bring him in,because he's been fucking
terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Old news enough.
After next season, After nextseason.
You don't think that's old newsenough?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
No, I don't think he's showed, I don't think he's
played good enough football tomake it old news.
What made what Dick did in badnews old news was he was
throwing touchdowns to SeanWatson, I mean to Sean Jackson.
Deep balls, real deep balls.
I'm talking about tee bags.
Nigga Bro, you remember thatone play where Vic launched that

(01:11:04):
more like 70 yards?

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Yeah, the first play of Monday Night Football.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yeah look at the flicker there is.
Look at it, Bro.
Hey, how can that little niggathrow football so far and hard?
Pause.
Gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I mean you were on a roll too with that whole thing
Tea bags and, oh boy, because hehad a cannon.
I mean golly, that's why,that's how.
And the other guy was reallyfast.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, he did run that for it too.
A quick Shadur note.
They were talking about Shadurto ask on some show and they
asked about a comp.
And I just wanted to sayaccurate Geno Smith huh more of

(01:12:12):
an athlete.
I mean, they both look likethey got titties when they run.
Say again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Maybe that's not a bad comp, passing-wise.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
No, I mean, don't get me wrong, though.
You know Gino can fling thatbitch, but anyways, I don't have
anything else in football, oh,unless you want to talk about
the dumpster fire in Cincinnatiit's a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
I mean, it is what it is, you know what they should
do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
If they want to take their franchise to the next
level, they should buy out richmckay I don't think that's going
to be anything, yeah I think ithelps us.
I think it helps us.

(01:13:17):
You're muffled.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Now you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Arthur won't really know what to do.
Maybe he can trust his staffthat he hired.
They can already say they'vebeen doing that anyways, that's
what they've been saying right,yeah, I mean the staff didn't
want to hire Belichick andLombardi.
Yeah those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I hope UNC rips off 11 wins this year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yes, that they're not doing the hard knocks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I was shocked when I saw it and said Bill didn't know
about this.
I think Bill, but Bill seemslike because he's been in the
media he's been more acclimated.
He was kind of ready for it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I don't think he wants cameras in his building.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I think that they didn't agree because they said
it was creative control.
They didn't agree.
Bill said we're going to do itmy way or we're not doing it.
I think that they didn't agreebecause they said it was
creative control.
They didn't agree.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Bill said we're going to do it my way or we're not
doing it.
And they were like well, thenwe're not doing it.
He's like okay, well, or heprobably told UNC UNC, we're
doing this my way or I'm notdoing it.
And if you choose not to do itmy way, I will leave.
He's going to do that anyways.
He's like Bubba Sparks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
I don't need you, but you need me.
He's going to do that anyways.
Everybody knows, once we foundout how the contract was set up,
it's a million-dollar buyoutafter this year.
This thing is set up for him towhere, if the right NFL offer
comes, he's gone.
Hey, did you see the coachingstaff?
Yeah, I did.
I did, obviously, kitchens, asthe OC was a pretty big standout

(01:15:00):
.
Freddie Kitchens getting backin the saddle.
Here's the thing Two Belichicksand one Lombardi on the staff.
Yeah and yeah.
Okay, and yeah, I sawLombardi's.
I didn't know, that's his kid,right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah, it's his son.
It's his younger son.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Yeah, I did see that he has one in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
He got caught up in that whole Josh McDaniels affair
.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Yeah, he was Josh's OC.
Lombardi's kid was aquarterback's coach for the
longest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Yeah, they're on the podcast, he was with the Saints,
wasn't?
he One of them was, I don't know.
Both of them have been in theleague, I don't know which was
which, but yeah, it would be sofunny when he would come on the
pod and just rip the Raiders,like when McDaniels was there,
but then he got so much worseafter they left because he was

(01:16:00):
like what does Antonio Pierceknow about running an
organization?
I mean, what does JoshMcDaniels know?
He watched it firsthand andevery time he got a chance to,
he just fucking shit down hisleg.
Give me the guy who's a badreal estate investor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Yeah, they were never contending.
I tell you what.
That's not even talking aboutcontending.
They were never buildingsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Nah, they were just selling tickets.
You want to talk some NBA now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
And this is where you know we should add in the,
especially with NBC coming backas soon as you said you want to
get to the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Hold on Where's?
It's ridiculous, it's obvious.
I just wanted to find which onethat was.
It's ridiculous, it's obvious.
I just wanted to find which onethat was.
Did you see Boogie on Gil'sArena?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
with McCants, I did.
I actually did get to watch itReally.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Real quick.
Rashad McCants might be theworst NBA talker alive, and
here's why he's a Skip Baylesstype that tries to hold players
to this level of his favoriteplayer, skip Michael

(01:17:24):
McCants-Kobe that hemisremembers the past but then
also misremembers that youyourself had the opportunity to
have that work ethic or havethat dog, and you didn't.
So I don't want to hear youcriticize somebody who's better
at you than something that youdid and wanted to do at a high

(01:17:45):
level, or for McCants did at ahigh level but did not do it at
a high level, at the highestlevel.
I don't want to hear you shitat a high level, at the highest
level.
I don't want to hear you shiton LeBron in the fourth quarter.
Mccants, you didn't play thelast four minutes of games.
You opened the fourth quarter.
You didn't get a second.
The nigga didn't get a secondcontract.

(01:18:06):
The year he averaged 15, I'msure he was getting some minutes
.
You did.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
On a bad Minnesota team, terrible Minnesota team.
Yeah.
But you didn't get a secondcontract If they were taking it
right, actually he wouldn't havebeen playing in those minutes,
but go ahead Do you know howshitty you have to be as a human
being.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Yeah, get it Granted.
He had microfractor surgery.
But as a college champion yeah,get it Granted, he had
microfracture surgery.
But as a college champion, a20-point-per-game guy out of
college, a top prospect cominginto college, for you not to get
a second contract in the NBA,you were a problem inside the
organization.
You pissed all the right peopleoff and he dated a Kardashian

(01:18:52):
back in the time when thatwasn't a good thing.
And apparently what's my man'sname from Minnesota?
Good footwork, mikhail wasn'trocking.
Yeah, you're not using wordsright now.
Now you are.
Then it's like when I tell youand you say, like damn it, it,

(01:19:12):
the words come out and then youadjust and then they don't come
out.
Boss, are you froze or justlooking at me like you're a dick
?
coming down would you say comingdown.

(01:19:34):
What'd you say?
All I heard was bye.
Now You're muffled, but I canhear you Still muffled, but I
can hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I want to be perfect.
I can hear you now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
You're perfectled but I can hear you.
I want to be perfect.
I can hear you now You'reperfect All right, great.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I said text messages were coming down Because JP just
said the Grizzlies are beatingthe Thunder tonight and he said
Source, trust me, bro.
Which is funny because Ithought they were going to win
tonight too, but just by chance,in a sense they almost have to,
but that's irrelevant.

(01:20:17):
I mean, I know we're talkingassociation, but that's
irrelevant to this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Fuck McCants.
Let's get to the actualassociation.
Laluca, laluca.
I put LaLuca because that'sjust easier for me to say with
my lisp.
I have a speech impediment LaLuca.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
It's cooking.
Actually, they're calling itbronchage.
That's what ESPN uses.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
The interns made that up.
That shit ain't fly.
Yeah, I like La Luca betteryeah like whoever made that up?

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
That shit ain't fly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Yeah, I like Lauga better.
Yeah, like whoever made that up, they go out in Connecticut.
They don't go to New York onthe weekends.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
So you're saying they're still stuck in their
college creative think tank mode?

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
They're not outside, they're not touching earth,
they're not grounded.
They're not touching earth,they're not grounded.
They don't walk outside in thegrass barefoot to just feel
earth.
Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
They're losers.
They don't fuck bitches.
That's really what you'resaying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
They've probably never smoked a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
No, they just don't fuck bitches.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Have you ever smoked a cigarette?

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Not a full one, but yeah, I've definitely smoked a
cigarette before.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
You know what I remember.
I was at a party at SouthernPoly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Southern Poly Tech.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
A guy I knew from high school went there Not a guy
I knew from high school.
Dude, I'm actually pretty coolwith um.
We went to elementary mill andhigh school together, played
baseball together for years andstuff.
And uh, some chicks we werewith high school hit me up and
was like, yeah, uh, you shouldcome down, so I drive down.

(01:22:07):
I'm hanging out with this justreally gorgeous blonde not
blonde brunette she's justreally cool.
I wonder what she's up to thesedays but kind of like earthy,
but not like annoyingly earthy,and we're sitting there talking
and she's like you want acigarette.
I was like, yeah, fuck itPulled out an American spirit.

(01:22:29):
Oh, it was just so fittingEarthy white chick smoking
American Spirits.
You know, you can go.
I can go that memory lanesometimes too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
American Spirit.
Wow, yeah, I mean, I've hit myfair share of cigarettes.
I hate cigarettes because Ihate the way they smell.
They smell so bad and like,yeah, it's like I never have.
And you know, everybody alwayssays, of course, cancer is this,
that and the third, but like Ijust never.

(01:23:10):
They don't taste good either.
Like I mean, like it'd be, it'dbe one thing.
I think that that's why I like,for us, is like anyone that will
do any type of nicotine, these,uh, vapes and stuff, hey, it's
not tobacco.
Like, yeah, nicotine's in it,of course, and there's still
other stuff, but it isn't really, it's not a cigarette.
Like, it's not.
So.
Like I feel like that's whatmakes it so much more appealing

(01:23:38):
to anyone that does want to evensomewhat smoke.
And like I don't smoke weed,obviously, as you know, like I,
I will smoke weed, but I don'tsmoke, and so, like you know,
cigarettes are just a derivativein a weird way of that, because
there's some people that won'tsmoke weed too, that will smoke
cigarettes, but like I, just Idon't know.
I've never been into cigarettes, they've never been something I
was interested in.

(01:23:58):
They stink, um, it's offensivearound other people to be
smoking it, like you know what Imean like dog.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
When I lived in san diego, I was like the most
closeted cigarette smoker evernow when iarette or black and
mild, no cigarette.
I had a cigarette phase in SanDiego too.
So I had a cigarette phase whenI was in Virginia because I
lived in the barracks and I'mnot smoking a whole black in
just every sitting.

(01:24:27):
You know what I mean, because Ididn't have my own crib to put
it out and sit it there until Iwanted it again.
I was like you know what I mean, a year and a half and I'm at
the, I'm at the bars just justchoking down newports I've never

(01:25:02):
just like smoked them soberever uh yeah, I, I didn't start
sober, but you know, and thenwhen I moved to san diego, I
never smoked cigarette like whenI was smoking cigarettes.
I never smoked cigarettes beforeI went out and then when I quit
the cigs and went back to theblacks, I wouldn't smoke the
blacks like.

(01:25:23):
I remember smoking a black oneday on my way to work and then
somebody was like and you smokelike yeah, and.
And after that I was like, ah,we just smoke at home, so I'd
get tanked and fucking smoke aciggy when I got to the house or
smoke a black when I got to thehouse.
Now, if I'm Snapchat, rentingthe blacks is there.

(01:25:44):
You already know.
You know me back in the day,but now I don't smoke none of
that shit, man, fuck it.
Bad for you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
But now, I don't smoke none of that shit, man
Fuck it.
Bad for you it's something thatI would consider.
Yeah, I will vape, and so, likethe thing is, though, I've
thought about just completelydropping that cold turd because
I can.
I've done it at a phase overthe summer.
I went like a whole month, soit's not that I can't do it, I

(01:26:12):
can most.
I don't have to have it Like, Iprefer to have it, but like I
don't have to, that's I'm notaddicted.
How about that?
That's like the biggest placeyou can put it, because
typically, people that aresmokers are addicted to smoking.
Like, but I can put that down.
I can put down alcohol too, butlike at, I can put that down, I
can put down alcohol too, butat the same time.

(01:26:32):
I don't know.
You said who.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
You said, you can put it down, but you can pick it
back up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Correct.
Yeah, exactly, it really isn'tessential.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
I know my obsecutioner yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
I wish.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
I had a beer.
Let's talk some hoops, though,man.
Oh yeah, we were talking aboutthe Lakers LeBron's 25-8-9.
Is he making a legitimate and Iknow he's not going to win it

(01:27:11):
but is he going to get somesecond, third place MVP votes If
they end up as a second orthird seed and it's tight?
Is he first team all NBA at 40?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
He 100% finishes top three.
Like I don't know who's yourthird vote.
We know who one and two are,but who's your third vote?
Is it Giannis, Really?

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
It should be Donovan Mitchell, but it won't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah, it's not going to be him, and so You're
actually about to lose too.
Yeah, I like him to be firstteam and I like him to finish
top three.
Those aren't hot takes at all,like there's no way that you
could.
They just when he they put uphe got Western Conference Player
of the Month.
He was averaging 30, 10, and 6on 55% from the field and 44%

(01:28:06):
from three.
And you know, I think theoverall record because they had
to include obviously even beforethe trade and stuff the overall
record was something like 12and like three.
It was something and I don'tthink you can argue with that.

(01:28:27):
They show well.
I don't think it was ChristmasDay, but at some point in
December, mid-december, theywere in 10th and now they're
second and they've won 15 oftheir last 20.
They're playing great ball.
Even with the change,everything has went well.

(01:28:47):
The JJ Redekai looks a lotbetter because he's able to
adjust on the fly with what itis that they're doing with the
lineups that they have.
They found a really good groovewith the guys they have.
They got Bando back, which Ithink made possibly that trade
with AD just a little bit easierbecause of his defensive
prowess as a player like and youknow what bando looks like.

(01:29:09):
He's gained some good weight andhe's, he's, he, he fits under,
he's not, he's not like draymond, but I'm saying he fits, he's a
guy, he's a chirper, right,like he will talk and he's hot,
but he's gonna be tough.
Yeah, like, yeah, so like, yeah, like you know what I mean.

(01:29:30):
And and he's one of those dudestoo, because what's Vando six,
nine?
Yeah, so he, he not, he like,he not guarding Jokic, like for
a game, but you can put him infirst on that nigga, he can play
small ball five yeah, and thenyou still have LeBron, who can,

(01:29:52):
to a degree, play a small ballfive like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
LeBron's playing defense that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
His defense Lucas playing better defense like than
what he typically does, likethey look better defensively and
I mean give JJ Redick does notis not getting enough credit,
and I know that it's twogenerational talents, but JJ's
not getting enough credit.
Coming from the school ofKraszewski and everything, and
this being his first year, too,that people fail to realize he

(01:30:23):
ain't never coached.
He deserves a lot of credit toofor what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
But you know, people were rooting against JJ because,
I mean, he was hated at Duke.
He ended up being a good NBAplayer when we thought he
wouldn't be.
Then he's like probably the Ididn't even got there yet.
I'm saying then he becomes ananalyst and he might be.

(01:30:48):
He and Gilbert Arenas werefighting for best two.
Like people talking basketball,yeah, x's and O's Like when
Gilbert starts doing his extrashit, like you got to block that
out.
But when you're actuallytalking about X's and O's locker
room coach to player, like thestuff that the media can't not

(01:31:10):
explain, they haven't been apart of it.
To play, or like the stuff thatthe media can't not explain,
they haven't been a part of it.
And I think that's like not toglaze Gil.
That's what makes him probablythe best voice talking.
Because he was a.
He became a star, but he wasnot like a crown star.
He had to like actually earn itand then he had to fall from
grace and then he got to be theOG guy and then he was like you

(01:31:32):
know what?
I'm going to keep gettingplaying time over these young
boys who are better than me, butbecause I'm Gilbert Arenas, I
got enough money, I'm gettingout the league.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
In the league with LeBron Kobe, like in this era of
guys that we all know.
Kenny's obviously great withX's and O's and stuff too, but
Kenny was never an all-star LikeGilbert was one of the best
players in the NBA at one point,kenny, and Kenny's been doing
it for so long.
That's why he gets these GMinterviews and stuff.

(01:32:06):
But Kenny knows what he'stalking about too right, and
he's also in a more buttoned up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Yeah, but he's on TV.
He's just on TV and like he maydo some pods here and there,
but like you're not getting adaily dose pause of Kenny, just
talking ball.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
So real quick.
You know it was a good storytime because he's a former
Gilbert teammate, BrendanHaywood, I think I sent you like
clip of Brendan Haywood.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
He's a great storyteller.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
He's good, he's really good.
I like Brendan Haywood.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Also, Jeff Teague is very high on that list.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
He's another good one .

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Yeah, he breaks down basketball very well.
What I like about Jeff Teagueand the Gilbert Arenas?
These are niggas who areselfish and they will tell you
what players actually think.
You know, like, bro, don'tnobody really care what Perk has
to say, unless he's telling 08Celtic stories, Because you know

(01:33:04):
they were a bigger dynasty thanBill Russell.
You know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Dan Paul Pierce is that they don't really break it
down, they're more.
They're just like Matt Barnesand Stack Right, there's just
more.
Those are more replicatablestories.
Yeah, they're not reallybreaking down film and talking
basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Well, Paul Pierce isn't watching enough film to
break it down appropriately.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
He's fucking whores.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
I don't know what he's doing, but no, he's fucking
whores.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
That's why he's on FS1, because there was one on
the show that they added him to.
He's fucking whores.
That's why ESPN fired him.
He was fucking whores.
That's why ESPN fired him.
He was fucking whores.
That's how they fired him.
He wanted everybody to know I'mfucking whores.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
And was confused about why he got fired.
You work for.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
You work for Disney.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
But anyways, why isn't Donovan Mitchell, or even
Jason Tatum, in the MVPconversation?
More specifically, donovanMitchell because they got the
best record in the league.
He's the best player on thatteam.
He's carrying them.

(01:34:39):
Why isn't he in theconversation?
Is it because you don't thinkso?

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
no, the two all-stars played on the campus this year.
I think that, uh, certainly thecircus only had one, but like
the same guy that's the otherall-star was a dude that won
finals mvp.
Neither of these guys are being.
They're not really carrying theteam.
He's got an olympic teammate.
Uh, jason taylor has another,the second best, or in some

(01:35:07):
cases, some people think jaylenBrown's the best player.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
They're wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Okay, the third best player was on the Olympic team
too, so, like it's going toalways be hard, he has to have
an exceptional season.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
The fifth best player was on the Olympics too, Derek
White.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Making him the third best.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
No J J.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Ruse the second.
No, jru is the second.
Oh shit, I forget about, buthe's been hurt now.
He's missed a couple games.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like hey, hey, hey, what we're
not going to do is we're notgoing to forget about JRu.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I'm not.
But all right, he's got twoOlympic teammates and a finals
MVP.
So he'll never be in thatdiscussion unless he has a
30-10-7 season.
Like, he's just not going to beincluded.
So there's his, we can dismisshim.
We don't even talk about theCeltics With Donovan Mitchell.

(01:36:05):
The thing is too, he's got abunch of he's got three
teammates that have made theall-star team, because
what's-his-face did make it thisyear, right?

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Mobley, mobley, yeah star team, because what's his
face did make it this year right, uh, mobley, yeah, jared allen
made it in cleveland and garlandand so did garland.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Garland's made it twice.
Now he's got three all starteammates technically.
And then they added now they'veadded deandre hunter who at the
time was second in six man ofthe year wrestler sell the team
wrestler.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Hey Truett, hey Kathy , family, step up, put your nuts
on the table and buy the Hawksand the Falcons we can change it
from State Stadium to DwarfHouse Arena too, and it'll have
a ring to it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
I love it.
And then the we can keepMercedes Benz as the name
because the Benz just sounds alittle sexy.
But they can put Chick-fil-Ainto State Farm and look, very
rarely do they have Sunday games.
So now you're selling moreproduct.
And look, niggas will eat achicken sandwich at a basketball
game.
I promise you, oh boy, oh God.

(01:37:09):
You know what else?
$8 a pop and they sellingchickens.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
You know what Parley?
Hey, you got two chains.
Are we selling them, birds?

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Deuce or Tony right.
They call this nigga Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Or hey, Braves ownership group, Y'all come in
as minority owners if theCathy's ain't got the cash.
But the point being, we wantthe Cathy's running the
operation.
Oh, the Cathy's have the cash.
They got the cash.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
They could definitely do one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
The Cathy's have a culture in their organization.
Yeah, they do not dev culturein their organization.
Yeah, they do not deviate fromtheir culture.
I'm not saying I'm 100% alignedwith their culture, but it's
close enough and I love the factthat they stand on business.

(01:38:09):
Chick-fil-a you are not gettinga Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich
on Sunday.
It's not happening.
You're not getting a frozenchicken sandwich.
That is fresh chicken delivereddaily.
That they that they season andbatter and fry and put in
between those two butteredpieces of bread with some pickle
that we eat 108.

(01:38:35):
These niggas had waffle friesbefore niggas knew fries could
be waffled.
Your mom and dad never made nowaffle fries.
They went buying waffle friesat the grocery store.
You went to Chick-fil-A becauseyou wanted the waffle fries.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Yeah, you getting crinkled.
I mean, obviously now they kindof do the.
You know, orida does theMcDonald's-style ones, because I
don't want to call itshoestring, because shoestring
is more like steak and shake,but the restaurant style.
I don't know what the fuck theycall McDonald's-style fries but
McDonald restaurant style.

(01:39:12):
I don't know what the fuck theycall McDonald's style fries but
McDonald's style.
That's what the fuck I callthem.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Hey, when you look at the package, you go, yeah, let
me get the McDonald's fries.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Yeah, because they basically supposed to taste the
same.
Nah, they don't, but they'renot frying them in that beef.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Fat man, that's what they be throwing in that grease,
Bro?
Ain't nobody doing fries likeMcDonald's?

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
I'm sorry, they're just different, but that's what
the golden arch is, nigga.
That's what makes McDonald'sMcDonald's.
It ain't the Big Mac, it's thefries.
Nigga, this shit's crack.
Yeah, mcdonald's.
One day we'll do one of these,especially during the summer
when it's a lot slower.
Mcdonald's fries if we did aMarch Madness type bracket,

(01:39:52):
they're going to win.
They will always win.
For me, those are the bestfries.
I know there's some people wholike Checkers fries.
Arby's got the Curlies, whichare good, but niggas don't go to
Arby's even just to get thefries.
I'm never pulling up to Arby'sto be like not going to Arby's,
though.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I went to Arby's while I was living in Albany,
right, and somebody had postedthe Wagyu Arby's burger and I
was like, bro, how was it?
He was like, honestly, it's notthat bad, you should try it.
So I actually went and tried itand it gives thrill.

(01:40:35):
Yeah, okay, I ain't gonna holdyou, it's just smack.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
But they don't do it.
That's like an on and off thingtoo.
That's not something.
They say yeah because what Idon't want.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I don't want a roast beef sandwich and off-brand
Polynesian sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
Yeah, nigga, I'm going to go to Publix and if I
want roast beef, I'll makemyself god damn it, or I'll just
make it my god damn self.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
If I want roast beef in between bread, I'm going.
That's crazy.
Roast beef in between bread,that's crazy.
Roast beef in between bread.
I'm going to Jersey Mike'sPause.
I said I want roast beef andbread from a man.
That's pause.
That's pause.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
I'm going to get it chopped up with some cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
When the last time you've been to barrow barrow,
it's a barrel another name.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
You say that.
Oh, sabero, the pizza place.
Man, never like low key it'sbeen.
I mean, it's been a lot like.
I remember one of the firsttimes I went to new york as a
kid we got it at laguardia.
Nigga, I was more.
I tell you what, in georgia Iwas more.
You remember fazoli's?
Yeah, they're still around.
Yeah, I know that they're.
They're like niche, niche,fucking hey, there's one in

(01:42:07):
cartersville.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
I've never been, but there's one here they do really
good frozen lemonades.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
That was one thing I always remembered about them,
but like they put vodka in it,nah, Just you know sweet.
It's a sweet treat, man.
It's for the kids.
I'm 33.
A frozen lemonade, I mean.
Look, I've always got to havevodka and shit If I want a sweet
chip.

(01:42:31):
It's just like getting candy.
I like my candy.
I don't eat ice cream, so like,for me that is the good shit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
We were on the phone last night and I went to the gas
station to get candy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Yeah, but this is what I'm saying.
If there was a Fadole's aroundhere.
Yeah, but this is what I'msaying.
If there was a Fadole's aroundhere.
I'm not going to say I'd gothere to just eat, necessarily,
but I would stop there to get afrozen lemonade.
Yeah, those niche places don'texist, but they don't exist
everywhere anymore, Kind of likeFuddruckers.

(01:43:07):
Fuddruckers used to be like astable to go sit down for me.
What about Flood Puckers?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
never been there don't Jamie Foxx and watch it,
or you don't want Jamie Foxx.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
I did not but true story never.
I never really watched MartinII.
You do your research man man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
I didn't watch Martin until college.
Sharon wasn't going for MartinLawrence.
I watched Jamie Foxx as a kid,but then I went back and watched
it as an adult.
That shit is just so funny.
It might be the best blacksitcom.
Obviously the Fresh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Prince.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Yeah, you watch Fresh Prince and Cosby Show.
Were you a Good Times, kid?

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
My mom.
I couldn't tell you specificepisodes.
I could tell you episodes ofthe Fresh Prince and the Cosby
show.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
My mom Was not into me watching the poor black shows
.
She didn't want me To see thatas an image of reality.
I was A Bill Cosby, a FreshPrince.
That's kind of what was pumpedthrough the house.
I want you to look at blackprosperity, family matters.

(01:44:33):
You know they weren't rich, butthey were.
You know they lived a good life.
Now eddie griffin not eddiegriffin, eddie eddie winslow
he's a bad boy, but hey, let'stalk about another bad boy he's
a bad boy for life if he let thestories be true but go ahead.
Carl, he was naughty too.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Didn't Chappelle have that in his monologue on SNL?

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
You know if you listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
He had heard Carl Winslow was getting smashed and
he's like, maybe I'm ugly.
He's like, because Carl Winslowis getting invited to the party
, but not me, it's a good pointhey.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
So we talked about the Lakers a little bit earlier.
Let's talk about the team thatthey did business with.
And you know, dallas KlayThompson's looking like Will
Smith waiting on Lou and thefamily.
I can't watch that episode, bythe way.
It triggers my childhood drama.
But Dallas, kyrie towards ACL.

(01:45:40):
They're saying Anthony Davisisn't going to play anymore.
I doubt Gafford or or Livelyreally come back, because what's
the point?
Kyrie's a free agent.
Nico Harrison is DeMar Hamlin.
He might be Joe Theismann,because this guy may not work in
his business again unless he'stalking about it.

(01:46:03):
And rumors are that the ownersare trying To tank the value of
the franchise To Decreaserevenue.
They're also jacking up ticketPrices to try to influence the

(01:46:25):
state of Texas to change Hisgambling laws so they can build
a casino To fund the team andthen also Take the players money
so they keep.
So they get A a casino to fundthe team and then also take the
players' money so they get ahigher percentage of their money
back to then reinvest.
And then another conspiracytheory is maybe Nico's going to
make a move for KD this summer.
It's going to be an expiring.

(01:46:57):
There may not be a bidding warfor him because he may say, hey,
I'm not going to extend, theymay get him for pennies on the
dollar.
I don't know, I don't even knowif I believe this thought, but
it's something that I heardtoday and you know, I just
wanted to bring this wholeDallas shit show here.

(01:47:20):
You know a team that went Imean both teams who made it to
the Western Conference Finalskind of just blew up their
rosters, and now they'll I meanDallas is trying to plant their
flag for Coop.
If we're being honest, you'recoming in and out, boss.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
They're going to have to hope that they're the Hawks
of how the Hawks were last year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Yeah, and the Timberwolves?
They're just going to get in aplay-in and get put out in the
first round exactly, and sothey're in a tough spot.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Obviously I can't imagine how much worse.
A whole month, because when didthat trade happen?
Was that the start of February?
Yeah, has any team ever had aworse month of sports ever?
I know Gafford and Lively werewell, gafford got hurt this
month.
Last month too, lively wasalready out, but I mean, does it

(01:48:24):
really get?

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
and then the fact that Luka's cooking like Luka
had a 35, or 30-15 in like sevengame yesterday, like I can't
think of a team that's had thatmany things go wrong to both
affect their short term andtheir long term in that small of

(01:48:46):
a span of time.
Yeah, so it's unfortunatewhat's going on there in Dallas,
but I'll tell you.
What it tells me is the NBA isabout to become the NFL.
These super maxes ain'thappening.

(01:49:07):
That second apron is real.
Teams are going to start usingthat second apron as a hard cap,
unless they are.
They feel like they are thisclose to winning a championship
and with the player and pat withthe player, empowerment
movement has done the way lebronused his power.

(01:49:29):
I don't think it had negativeeffects on the league.
His individual actions did nothave negative effects on the
league long term.
But I think the trickle downsof, like the KDs making his
decisions that didn'tnecessarily work out well, the
Jimmy Butlers, the Kyries, theJames Hardens, the Ben Simmons,
paul George, like Joel Embiid,like a lot of these guys who

(01:49:52):
aren't LeBron and trying to usetheir influence, the owners are
taking the power back and Ithink the contracts moving
forward are going to startlooking different and there
might only be five super maxesout there and, to be honest with
you, I think that's the rightanswer, right?
I think you should have supermaxes available for every team

(01:50:17):
If the player meets that,whatever the criteria for super
max.
But I don't think that justbecause you're a max player and
you stay with your home team,you should just.
The standard should be you getthe super max.
Like John Wall should not havegotten a super max.
Bradley Beal should not havegotten a supermax.
Bradley Beal should not havegotten a supermax.
Rudy Gobert should not havegotten a supermax.
Russell Westbrook in OKCdeserves a supermax based on who

(01:50:41):
he was, to that team, to thatmarket and to that franchise, to
where, like that, money makessense, even if you're not going
to win a championship.
Huh yeah, jason Tatum, jalenBrown, they deserve their Super
Maxes.
They won a championship.

(01:51:03):
They've been good, they've beena championship contender damn
near every year.
They've been in the leaguetogether.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
The only people that are going to get the Supermax
are going to be the guys thatare loyal and good.
You're not going to get theSupermax if you're solid Book
might not get a Supermax.
Realize.

(01:51:31):
Now we can't build around himas the one to win.
And that's just the truth.
Let's just keep it real.
You've given him.
We saw.
I mean he kind of did it withchris paul, but like he wasn't
the one.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Chris paul was the leader of that team.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
He was the straw he was the straw, he started the
drink, not you.
And now we've given you aplayer greater than you not
better necessarily, I would saybetter, but greater, but no
doubt greater.
And we're in mediocrity, fuckno.
And we?

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
brought in a guy who we thought was your equal to,
maybe slightly lesser.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
I mean that book Bradley Bill.
Yeah, Book had a scoring title,I mean not Book.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Bradley Bill had a scoring title.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
He scored 30 on a bad team.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
That's hard, yeah, which is what Book was doing,
right Like, before Chris Paulgot there.
Book had a 70-point game, rightso like and lost.
But that's the point.
He's just not a guy that youcan build, just like.
The Wizards realized that earlytoo.
That's why they got rid of him.
They're like oh man, it doesn'tmatter, we're not going to get

(01:52:40):
free agents to DC which is weirdand we're not going to be able
to.
Well, because they're expectingsomebody like a KD to come home
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Like that would like your biggest hope.
Only home he's going back to isOKC, KD or Chet and some picks.
Send it in.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
I tossed that around to you, paws, I did.
But what I told you I saidtrade Jalen Williams instead,
just straight up, and not justmake it a straight up trade.
I love it For right now to win,right now.
I'd like that.
I want to keep J-Dub.
I'd trade him If it's astraight up deal and it was not

(01:53:26):
at the All-Star.
I mean, I guess you could havedid it at the All-Star break but
like before the season hadstarted, after what you saw
happen against Dallas, kd's gottwo or three more years of this
in him.
As long as he's healthy, he'sgot this in him still.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
If you're Phoenix, who would you rather have?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Ket and Picks or J-Dub straight up.
Well, the Picks.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
It depends on what the the picks are that OKC's
sending.
I would want a deal with picksbecause Phoenix has no picks.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
Well, right, and they need the picks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
That's true too.
Hey, one day we should just goto FedEx Forum and catch a game.
No, I don't really.
I just wanted to say that, Doyou?

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
have the game on.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Yeah, what's the score?
They haven't started yet.
Cleveland just came back andwon to a ragtag Miami team.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Yeah, wiggins, I mean he's living the life he's got
to be at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
He might be too corny .
He might just be.
He's from Canada.
I mean, he's living the lifehe's got to be.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
at this point he might be too corny, he might
just be, he's pro Canada, I mean.
So it's like you know, let mesee but he's already got a ring.
He's gotten paid multiplereally good contracts.
He's the number one pick.
Andrew Wiggins is honestly donefor a guy.
That's a number one pick.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
He's done his job.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Yeah, and he's never been an all-star.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Like he was that one year.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
What Minnesota?
No, yeah, Damn.
He made it one year the yearthey won.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
I believe so.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
But yeah, he made one all-star, I mean he was a 25-26
a night guy one of those yearsin Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Yeah, All-Star 2022.
See, I'm pulling up his statsright now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
That's the year they won.
Yeah, that's the year they won.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
His third year in Minnesota, he averaged 23.6.
His last year in Minnesota heaveraged 23.6.
His last year in Minnesota, hewas averaging 22.4 before he got
traded, bro, this nigga made anall star.
This nigga made an all stargame, averaging 17.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
That's disgusting wait was 23.6.
Was that his highest scoringyear?
23.6 yeah wow, I didn'trealizein had a higher scoring
year than him in the nba.
That's crazy, um interesting.
But uh, yeah, he's living thelife.
He's got multiple hundredmillion dollar deals and

(01:56:06):
different parts of how max'swere given out.
He's gotten two separate ones.
He's been the face kind of of ateam.
He's got to play with the greatlike Steph.
He's won a ring.
Now he's in Florida and hestill has room for another.
He'll get another $100 milliondeal Somehow.

(01:56:28):
I'll give him a five-year toend it out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Good for them.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
I wouldn't 20 a year.
That's not bad for a guy likehim.
He's still worth 20 a year.
I wouldn't want him that longPause If he's your fourth option
.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Because he might be 30.
He is not.
I don't think he shouldn't be.
He is not.
I don't think he shouldn't be.
He is.
He is 30.
He turned 30 last week.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
So he's got one more contract in him, like one more
good one, and if he gets inMiami I don't know if that's
what they'll do, but like Idoubt it but he can go to a team
like I mean shit, Utah will payhim.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
We're talking way too much.
Andrew Wiggins, I'm trying toget to KD the Suns and where
they're going, and you want totalk about fucking, andrew
Wiggins?

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Well, he came up in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
I mean, he came up, but you don't want to watch him
play basketball, right?
No, I don't no, so why would wetalk about him?
No one wants to listen to ustalk about a player that nobody
wants to watch but his parents.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Katie to the Mavs.
I don't see it happening.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not even saying
let me, let me, let me, let meset it up.
Katie to the thunder.
We saw no, we saw katie and budget into it yesterday.
They show it on tnt, but whatthey didn't show was the
reconciliation after they gotinto it.
And then katie came out andaddressed it in the media.
He was like yeah, we'recompetitive, we got into it,
that's what competitors do.

(01:58:14):
Like he has a way of seeing it.
I have a way of seeing it as aveteran player.
He allows me to do certainthings and we get to discuss it.
But like, which I didn't showwas at the end where we were
patting each other on the backand hitting each other in the
chest and like we're good.
It was just heat of the moment.
But the media tried to blow it,katie and uh bud going at it
like it was something and uh, itwas nothing.

(01:58:39):
And with it being nothing, I'lltell you, it's just.
It's this unfortunate thing thathappens in the media sometimes
is that they try to make a storyout of nothing, and controversy
sells just like sex sells.
So it's much easier, as an NBAmedia outlet, to highlight

(01:59:02):
negativity, and this is why Ithink a lot of the players come
out and they discuss thenegativity and they talk about
how it makes them feel and howthey don't like it and how you
guys aren't covering the gamethe right way.
Because, yes, could wehighlight that Kevin Durant and
Bud got into it?
Sure, but could the question behey, kevin, we saw you and

(01:59:26):
Coach Boone, boone, hoser getinto it.
Then, after the fact y'all, youy'all adapted up to anything
like, is there anything to tosee there, or is it just y'all
in the heat of the battle?
But somebody who's actuallybeen in the heat of battle would
understand that those thingshappen.

(01:59:46):
I'm gonna be real with y'all.
I don't like to play at my 33year old age, right, and the rec
sports that I play as an adult.
I don't like to play at my33-year-old age, right, in the
rec sports that I play as anadult.
I don't like to play with myfriends Pause.
I don't like to play against myfriends, why?
Because I can become uberlycompetitive and I can talk crazy
and I can talk shit, becauseI'm trying to get an edge.

(02:00:11):
I don't want to do that withpeople that I care about,
because I don't know wherethey're going to take it and
when you're not actuallycompeting for something but the
sake of competition.
Shit talking can go a littlebit differently, because you're
like, yeah, it's just a game,but how much of a game is it

(02:00:31):
really?
Because what does this gamematter?
But in that, this story explainsthe disconnect between the NBA
players and the NBA media andthe NBA fans.
Now, I haven't listened to anytraditional media discuss Kevin
Durant and Butt getting into it.
I only listened to players talkabout it and the players said

(02:00:54):
it was nothing.
So to me it's nothing.
But someone trying to sell astory, someone trying to get
clicks, somebody trying to getsubscribe subscriptions, someone
trying to generate ad revenuefor their company or the company
that they work for, they'regoing to turn this story into
something much larger than it is.

(02:01:15):
Then what they don't realize isthis could infiltrate a locker
room, this could infiltrate anorganization and create issues,
and because these things we'veseen historically have happened
and continue to happen therecreates the mistrust between the

(02:01:38):
player and the media, and whenthere's mistrust, the media
loses access.
So when the media loses access,they lose context, they lose
direct quotations, they lose.
Hey, I'm talking, I'm telling astory that I may not make

(02:01:59):
somebody I know look good.
But because I want to preservethis relationship, I'm going to
tell the truth, but I'm going totell it truthfully, but I'm
going to keep it respectful andI'm also going to have a
conversation with them so theycan see and know what is being
discussed before it even happens.
That's how we preserve therelationships.

(02:02:20):
Now, as a media person, justbecause you like a player, just
because you have a relationshipwith a player, doesn't mean you
shouldn't be honest about aplayer to the media.
Just because you like a mediaperson, don't like a media
person.
Whatever the case may be, youshould give them Honesty when
discussing things with them.

(02:02:41):
More importantly, you shouldn'tbe offended or bothered or
upset with that individual Ifthey say something about you
that you may not like or that isnegative, but it's true.
Or, from their perspective, itis true from the information
they have given.

(02:03:03):
Their context right, it's trueto them.
That's how it should work, butit doesn't work like that and it
becomes us versus them and,unfortunately, the us versus
them mentality.
I was confused on what'sactually going on, because we
have all these and all thisinformation coming out from all

(02:03:24):
these different sources and it'sthe same topic being covered
differently and it's like who do?
I believe I've trusted thiswriter, writer, I've trusted
this talking head for so manyyears.
But then I hear the player comeout, or a player who's involved
, or somebody who talked to theplayer come out and talk about
it, and it's, and it's totallydifferent.
And then the seeds that thetraditional media will paint was

(02:03:49):
well, they're just trying toprotect their legacy.
They don't really understand,uh, how these things are viewed.
Well, I may not understand howit's viewed from your
perspective, but I understandhow it's viewed in the trenches,
because, see, you're not in thetrenches, you know.
And the wild thing is is if onboth sides, we started to build

(02:04:12):
true relationships whether it'splayers in traditional media, uh
, players in non-traditionalmedia, the guys in the media who
are so made that they don'thave to work to beat and stuff
like that but if you actuallystart to build these
relationships and you allowthese players to tell their
stories or you tell them forthem, truthfully, guess what?
We get a better picture ofwhat's going on.

(02:04:35):
And not only that youtraditional media talking heads
would be less threatened by theplayers intruding on your space,
because they wouldn't feel theneed to come into your space if
you had been telling the truthright.
If you had been telling thetruth right, if you had been

(02:04:59):
covering them in a way that wasfair, if you weren't just
writing stories, throwingconjecture out there just
because you know it getsattention.
See, because it's an ecosystem,it's one big happy family and
if we all work together, we alleat.
See, because it's an ecosystem,it's one big happy family and
if we all work together, we alleat.
But the second that there's alittle disconnect between us and

(02:05:22):
there's fracturing.
We don't eat as much.
If you're the media, you eatless when there's more players
providing direct media, adirect-to-consumer content.
Why?
Because you get less clicks,you get less views, you become
less valuable and you have morecompetition.
Who may be getting moreattention than you?
Why?
Bigger name, closer to theactual events that are happening

(02:05:45):
?
Some might be better atspeaking to you, maybe more
entertaining.
So some of these jobs y'allthought y'all had at these
networks, some might be betterat speaking to you, maybe more
entertaining.
So some of these jobs y'allthought y'all had at these
networks, you can't get.
You got to go start your ownpodcast or go work under
somebody else's brand Because,guess what, these players are so
profitable that they get tocome in and take your job.
That's what happens when youdon't work together, players.

(02:06:11):
If you shut the media out toomuch and they're always bashing
you or they're not talking aboutyou at all, they're talking
about something else Lessendorsements, why Less people
are consuming you your leaguemay make less money because the
media rights deal isn't as high.
You understand what I'm saying?
Because the companies don'twant to pay as much money to

(02:06:34):
have the exclusive rights toyour product.
It's a happy family.
It's a happy family.
So instead of fighting eachother at Thanksgiving, let's
give gifts at Christmas.
So everybody eats Speaking of ateam and eating.
Let's get to the Philadelphia76ers.

(02:06:56):
Here you talk about a dumpster,fire on fire.
That is the Philadelphia 76ersGoing into.
I mean, they've been in thisprocess for what 10 years Made
some bad draft picks?
The obvious ones, taking MarkelFultz over Lonzo Ball and Jason

(02:07:20):
Tatum.
More specifically, jason Tatum,you were into one spot.
You could have drafted him one.
Life would have been different,choosing Ben Simmons over
Brandon Ingram or Jalen Brown.
I'm not saying in hindsight,they're obviously wrong, but in
the moment you just never know.
Ben Simmons was a highly toutedprospect coming out of LSU.

(02:07:44):
He was great, really good, buthe also didn't make the
tournament.
He wasn't eligible at one pointbecause his grades were so, or
he wasn't eligible, uh, at onepoint because his grades were so
, or he wasn't eligible forpostseason awards because his
gpa was so low.
Not that that should matter,but it tells you.
It can tell you something.
I thought brett and ingram wasjust a better player coming out

(02:08:05):
because of what he could do, butyou know, jaylen brown became
who he became and you could havehad to sell to score right
there on Philly with Embiid.
But anyways, they come into theyear.
They signed Paul George.
Paul George gets hurt inpreseason.
Joel Embiid was obviously hurtin the playoffs, obviously hurt

(02:08:27):
in the Olympics and started theseason late, said he wasn't
going to play back-to-backs.
A little side note on that I amsick and tired of you media
types out here bashing playersfor load management.
It's not just the players, itis a team effort.

(02:08:50):
The franchises are looking attheir sleep patterns, looking at
their practice hours, lookingat their minutes to try to
preserve their bodies andhonestly I don't think it's
working because we're seeingmore injuries left and right.
I don't know why we're seeingthem.
It's a combination of things,but anyways, right.

(02:09:11):
So you have Embiid coming inhurt.
You have Paul George, who getshurt early in the season.
Jared McCain and Tyrese Maxeyshow some promise.
Mccain, good-looking rookie,probably rookie of the year, out
for the year.
Maxey's been dinged up some andjust hasn't been playing well.
Embiid in and out of the lineup.
Embiid's done for the season.
Paul George is no longerpodcasting.

(02:09:31):
Been playing well.
Embiid in and out of the lineup.
Embiid's gone.
Embiid's done for the season.
Paul George is no longerpodcasting, not playing well.
Probably should be done for theseason too, because I think
Paul George Huh.

Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
I said maybe a career .

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
No, I think Paul George is.
I'm fucking around.
I just think Paul George isplaying through the knee sprain,
the hyperextended knee orwhatever that happened in the
preseason and he just hasn'tgotten back healthy.
And you tag that along with himbeing 33, 34 years old yeah,
you lose a step.
Imagine being a step slow witha gimpy leg.

(02:10:04):
That's two, three steps slow.
So Philly's in hell right now.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
And Let me tell you, they got to.
They got to, they got to cleanhouse.
They got to throw that thingaway.
Yeah, they got to get, I meanDarryl Morey first, the light
Morey first.
I don't even think Nurse is abad coach.
So I mean, and this is year twofor him, yeah, I mean you can

(02:10:37):
clean him out too at this point.
But like, at the same timeyou've got McCain, who you will
have With him, and Maxie, thatlooks like that could be your
backcourt.
You got to get as much as youcan for him.
B I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
I mean, that's probably what a bot, a three
pack of directs.

Speaker 1 (02:10:59):
Well, a team like OKC maybe would give you the all
time compensation draft low inHartenstein, right, like they
could give you five firstrounders in Hartenstein and like
you'd have to.
And maybe you can get IsaiahJoe or Aaron Wiggins, or you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
They'll give you one of their guys too, but like I'm
going to say in beats to Hurt,he might not even play for us.
I'm doing you a favor because Iain't giving you shit.

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
Well, they'll be able to get shit for him, though he
still has won an MVP, goddammit,and so he still will have worth
, but at this point you couldn'tget what the—.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
You're talking about medical retirement.

Speaker 1 (02:11:48):
Yeah, but I feel like they brought that up.
I mean, we just saw—.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
Because Daryl Moore is an idiot and extended him
this offseason.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
I know the Olympics are different, but he looked
great in the fucking Olympicsfor that second half of the he
looked great in one game.

Speaker 2 (02:12:07):
Yeah, the one game they needed him to be great, he
was great Well yeah, he lookedgreat in that one game, but in
the other games he looked likehe didn't belong.

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
No, he did Like throughout group play.
He was god-awful actually, andeverybody kept saying, well, why
is AD and Bam just not playingLike?
Why not just keep them in thegame?

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
Because they need to keep him engaged for when they
play against Joker.
Because AD and Bam are toolight in the ass to defend Joker
, not even the first Joker.
I was Huh.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
He was fucking them.
Hold it yeah he was doing themgood and so they got to clean up
.
They're not going to be able toget rid of PG.
Pg is now in Brad Bealterritory for contract-wise, and

(02:13:02):
maybe his is a little bit worsebecause I think he's slightly
older than Beal.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Yeah, no, he's older.

Speaker 1 (02:13:08):
And his is a fresh contract as opposed to.
Bill's, it's like two years in.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
PG is high school class of 09.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
Bill is my class.
He's 11.
Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (02:13:21):
PG has more years.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
Yeah, he's older.
Now I guess the thing with PaulGeorge is that he's definitely
not.
It's almost like a slightlymore I can make plays version of
clay thompson at this point,like that's kind of who paul
george is I know I'm telling youI don't think that we can say

(02:13:45):
who paul george is until nextseason.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
he started the year with that big-ass knee brace on
he got hurt in the preseasongame here, I know, but I'm
saying in his first game.
He sent out a few games, but inhis first game this year he had
on a brace.
You don't get better aftercoming back as early as possible

(02:14:11):
from an injury by playingbasketball at the highest level.
Now, if he would have came backwith just a compression sleeve,
you go, okay, they'remonitoring the swelling and all
of that stuff, but the brace,the big and bead brace, and Paul
George might be cooked.
You may just be early to theparty.

(02:14:32):
I'm just saying I don't know ifhe's cooked yet because he came
into the year injured, had hecame into the year healthy and
he played like this or there wasno like reported injury.
Oh, that nigga's cooked.
Get him off the grill, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.
Now Medium.
Well, we can tolerate.
I mean we don't want, want it,but I'm a medium rare guy like

(02:14:57):
hey, it's medium, grab it,because if it's well done you
might as well just keep it onthe grill, just let it burn out.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
man, fuck it, you're not coming in that'll be all
right, though as a uh, as a city.
They just got their super bowl.
Phillies are always, uh,certainly in it, I guess, uh.

(02:15:25):
But so as a city fan base, youknow they can kind of fly under
the radar with this bad shit.
Because the Eagles are so good,because the Phillies are pretty
good, they won't get.
They'll be the ass of the town.
They're the butt of the joke.
They could do this seamlesslynow, and they kind of almost

(02:15:48):
have to.

Speaker 2 (02:15:50):
Here's the thing.
Man Daryl Morey is flying underthe radar.
In all those years in Houstonhe was praised as like a genius.
You know Sloan Conference thisand that.
You know he was like whatbasketball GM?
Gm he is of the future.

(02:16:10):
It's not working.
You know.
It almost worked at one pointin time but shot too many threes
.
It didn't work.
This right here, this isfailing and Daryl Morey should

(02:16:31):
not be treated like Doc Riversand continue to get second
chances and better jobs.
Doc Rivers at least won a ring,damn it.
You know the.

Speaker 1 (02:16:40):
NBA is the only continue to have multiple lives.

Speaker 2 (02:16:44):
No, no, no.
It happens in the NFL.
It happens in the NFL Shit.

Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Bro fucking.
I I mean Dimitrov, think aboutit.
I know he left us in a bad capshit, but you don't think he
deserved a second chance?
He was a GM here for a decadelike he didn't deserve a second
chance but you gotta think aboutit.

Speaker 2 (02:17:08):
Dimitrov isn't taking a job as a number two man, he's
only taking GM jobs.

Speaker 1 (02:17:16):
He's gonna self back up about it.
Dimitrov isn't taking a job asa number two man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
He's only taking GM jobs.
Yeah, so instead of buildinglike and with a lot of times in
the league with these coaches,you'll see them sit on a bench
for a year and then boom,they're good.

Speaker 1 (02:17:34):
It just in the NBA.
It seems like it's way easierto get the second opportunity
and this is technically hissecond opportunity.
But think about it, they didthat really to appease Harden a
little.
I mean, I don't know, it was toget Harden.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
I mean, he became available because of the new
ownership and they didn't seeeye to eye and maybe part of it
was appeasing Harden.
But he was also the best GMavailable and other teams
wouldn't have been crazy to firetheir GMs to bring him in at
that time.

Speaker 1 (02:18:15):
Perfect storm, basically I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:18:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like Daryl Morey and the way heleft Houston, he didn't like
get fired for poor performance.
Those guys get second jobs.

Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Baseball GMs get second jobs too.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
I don't follow baseball front offices, I don't
follow baseball.
If we're being honest, yeah, wegot nothing out of that one.
Yeah, nah, yeah, we're gettingnothing.
No, oh, can you?

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
hear me now.
Yes, good, all right, double A,for instance with the Braves.

Speaker 2 (02:18:59):
You got 32nd on double A baseball.

Speaker 1 (02:19:02):
Here just real quick.
He came from the Toronto BlueJays Blue Jays never won.
Shit Comes here Great.
Same thing with the Cubs GM.
He retired I forgot his name,but he was the Cubs GM.
Then he went to the Red Sox.
He won a World Series in bothplaces.
I guess is all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:19:19):
Oh, GMS.

Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
Yeah, it's normal in baseball.
I feel like it happens probablymore often there than anywhere,
but the NBA specifically, Ifeel like there's a better
chance and then with the NFL itjust doesn't happen as much.

Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
I mean I know I've got Winning coaches get second
jobs.

Speaker 1 (02:19:40):
Well, but coaches, and that's the other part.
Depending on what type of coachyou are, you typically might be
the GM, like if Bill evercoaches in the NFL again, he's
going to have control and that'swhy he's not going to be in the
NFL.
Tom Coughlin had been a GM, acoach, gm with the Jaguars,
right.
Then he's the coach of theGiants, kind of has GM control,

(02:20:04):
then goes back to the Jaguars,then is just the GM.
He's an example, think about it.
He's a coach that had thatopportunity.
Bill Pulliam, bill Colts he's acoach that had that opportunity
.
Bill Pulliam built Colts.
They were great.
But I'm saying if you just hada good run you might not get
another chance.
Thomas Dimitrov had a good runhere.

(02:20:25):
A culture got set here finally.
Now it might be Rich McKay'sculture, but it got set.
God damn it.
I'm just saying the Falconsactually had a standard.
Finally.
We kind of had somewhat of anidentity.

Speaker 2 (02:20:41):
I don't think we had a standard, I don't think we had
any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:20:44):
You know, I think during Dimitrov's time we were a
finesse team, but I'm justsaying we at least had somewhat
of an identity.

Speaker 2 (02:20:51):
No, we had Matt Ryan, we had Matt Ryan, that's what
we had.

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
But that's a part of it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
We had Matt Ryan Early to late prime.
Matt Ryan was the standard Once.
He was no longer Matt Ryan.
That standard has been in thefucking toilet.
It's Matt Ryan.
Huh.
Yeah, that didn't come in.

(02:21:24):
Is there anything else sportsrelated you want to talk about?
Yeah, we're getting nothingfrom you right now, man, how
about?

Speaker 1 (02:21:34):
now, yeah, we're getting nothing from you, right?

Speaker 2 (02:21:35):
now, man?
How about now?

Speaker 1 (02:21:36):
yeah, we're getting something all right, we went as
far as the quarterback went, butuh, that's it for me on sports
anything pressing in culture.

Speaker 2 (02:21:44):
Uh, what do I have written down?
Zoe saudana had thatcontroversial oscar speech where
she really stood on beingdominican and apparently black
people were bothered by her notclaiming her blackness, but her
Dominican-ness, but like, if youknow anything about Dominicans,
they are Dominican, not black.
So what do you expect?

Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
He was an HBCU student at A&T for Drumline
right.

Speaker 2 (02:22:14):
So yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (02:22:19):
Yeah, she's always been that way, plus the role in
the movie that she just won theaward for was a Hispanic woman
role, so it's like she's like aMexican or some shit, but she's
Dominican Like.
I said it's Hispanic though.

Speaker 2 (02:22:33):
No, no, no.
That's not how that cultureworks.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
It's Latin.

Speaker 2 (02:22:37):
Now, that's the American version of it, but,
like most Latin people aren'tgoing to tell you they're Latino
or Latino, they're going totell you where their people are
from, even if they were born inAmerica.
No, I agree, we're getting noaudio Can you hear me.

(02:22:58):
Yeah, why did you have to sayfuck the AirPods, man?

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
Yeah, I know, Either way she was typecasted.
I guess is all I'm saying.
One way or another, that's howshe got the role.
She got the role because, no,she's not typecast the role.

Speaker 2 (02:23:12):
She got the role because, no, she's not typecast
man, she got the job.
I think black people wantanybody who looks black to claim
black, as in me and you, likeAdos African Descendants of
Slave shit and get mad when theydon't claim their blackness for

(02:23:34):
what they actually are.
And even if they're playing ablack role, even if they do
adopt some virtues of Americanblack culture because they live
in America and they're groupedwith black people outside of
their homes, but inside theirhomes, what's instilled into
them is to be a proud Dominican,a proud Cuban, a proud Haitian,

(02:23:54):
like Haitian Josh, one of mybest friends, and he can still
Haitian, like you ask him, hey,hey, he ain't going to say I'm
black, he'll say I'm Haitian.
So, like, I just think blackpeople need to get over it and
stop having like thisinferiority complex.
And if you look black but youdon't claim to be, like black

(02:24:17):
American, especially when you dosomething, good, hey, if they
don't want to claim, you don'tclaim them, who cares?
If she's Dominican, she's a fireactress.
Watch her work.
If you think she's fucking bankmaterial you know what I'm
saying Go to the bank.
Go to the bank.
Right, I don't give a fuckingZoe Saldana.
I don't know what she wasthrough this week and didn't

(02:24:39):
care.
I still don't care, she's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
I'm with you.
I'm with you and I meaneverybody has to understand that
obviously, like I said, evenwith a daughter's mother.
I mean everybody has tounderstand that Obviously, like
I said, even with a daughter'smother, I mean she is Panamanian
, right, like that's what thehousehold she grew up in and
that's what they are right, likeI don't you know but and I know
that that's more a little bitAfro Latina, but whatever, same

(02:25:08):
thing.

Speaker 2 (02:25:10):
Huh, dominican same thing, afro Latina.

Speaker 1 (02:25:14):
Right point being Dominican, same thing right, and
so I just it's it again.
I agree with you kind ofwholeheartedly there.
If they don't want to claimthat, that's fine because they
are that.
So if that's the what they wantto claim.
Kind of with the same thingwith Kamala everybody was trying
to like typecast her.
No, but she claims her herIndian heritage too.
To typecast her.
She claims her Indian heritagetoo right, which makes her Asian

(02:25:38):
Pacific.

Speaker 2 (02:25:42):
I think it's different with politicians.

Speaker 1 (02:25:45):
How so, if she wants to claim it one way or another,
she went to an HBCU, but hermother's Indian, her father's
Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (02:25:55):
I'm with you, but it's a little bit different.
As a politician who is, she wastrying to play her.
She was trying to carry herselfas a traditional Black woman
around Black people, but then bewho she truly was in other

(02:26:19):
worlds.

Speaker 1 (02:26:21):
But anyone that was black knew that.

Speaker 2 (02:26:24):
No, they didn't.
Shit, I did in.
Well, yes, because we arecritical thinkers.
And just because we seeskinfolk don't mean we just
assume we're kinfolk.
Just because we see Democratsdon't mean we think we have our
personal or our communityagendas at the forefront.

(02:26:47):
We're not those niggas.
When she trots out there withQuavo talking about standing on
business and Meg Thee Stallionin a short suit shaking her ass,
no, a black woman wouldn't evendo no corny ass shit like that.
Like do you think MichelleObama, a black woman from
Chicago, would carry her, wouldpresent herself like that?

Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
Do you think Candace Owens will carry herself like
that?

Speaker 1 (02:27:17):
No, oprah Winfrey wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:27:19):
Oprah, wouldn't you think of any of the influential
black women who did not come upin hip-hop?

Speaker 1 (02:27:28):
Even Beyonce has a certain type of form.

Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
Beyonce did not come up in hip-hop.
She came up in church gospelR&B Top To hip-hop as it became
the dominant genre.
You know what I mean?
Correct, and Beyonce was alsoraised by her American black
parents and Beyonce carriesherself like a respectful black

(02:27:54):
woman.
Yeah, she might show a littleass in the Levi commercials, but
it's covered.
Has any Beyonce news every week?

Speaker 1 (02:28:04):
Not to my knowledge.
They exist.
Somebody said that they had atape.
Who was it?
Not Bun B, Probably was they.
It was like Bun B not Bun B,Probably was Somebody.
They hinted that Pim C saidsomething, but he's not here so
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
He hasn't seen the light of day.
You know Beyonce, even in hersexy ways, she's done it in a
respectful way Tasteful,tasteful, yeah.
Neither one of us would bedisgusted if our daughters
looked up to Beyoncé, as long asthey weren't crazy beehive with

(02:28:41):
it.
They were fans of Beyoncé andlooked at her as a woman to
model the way they wanted tocarry themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:28:48):
They would inspire what they want to do.

Speaker 2 (02:28:50):
We would be like whoa , whoa, whoa.
I understand.
Kim Kardashian has a greatbusiness empire.
It's famous for taking down.

Speaker 1 (02:29:00):
A lot of it apparently.

Speaker 2 (02:29:04):
So what about?
I talked about this on theVillage Vets pod.
The conversation didn't kind ofgo the way I wanted it to.
What are your thoughts on theseold niggas', social media
poppers Like Jim Jones Cameron,50.
I think what Chad Ochocinco didto Cam was somewhat tasteful,

(02:29:25):
because Cam got super personalon him for no reason.

Speaker 1 (02:29:37):
I think about the demographic of the people.
Everybody you named outside ofchad is from new york and I
think that where you're fromdoes say something about you and
with them they're new york guyslike I.
I know they're differentboroughs, but they're still new
yorkers and the one thing I'velearned about new yorkers is
that and really people from upnorth in general, but

(02:29:59):
specifically new york these arepeople that are always typically
unfiltered and they're verymuch so stuck in their way.
Doesn't really matter how muchmoney they made, what their
profession is.
They're very true to what theculture is there.

Speaker 2 (02:30:20):
You know why.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
Why.

Speaker 2 (02:30:25):
It's a place that people move to and not move out
of.

Speaker 1 (02:30:30):
It's the greatest city on Earth, if you let anyone
tell it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:33):
When you've been told your city is the greatest place
ever.
Everybody wants to be here.
If you can make it here, youcan make it anywhere.
If you grow up believing that,you're going to think that your
way is the right way and thenthrow success on top of it, you
know what I mean I just thinkthat shit, just think this is

(02:30:59):
corny.

Speaker 1 (02:31:03):
Yeah, I, I'm not a fan of it.
I think that it's.
It's crazy because we forgethow old these really are and
like they're old all the.
All the are.
Niggas are old, bro like, butthey were kind of old even when
they were popular.
Like these niggas like I knowcam was uh super young, like uh
I look back at like cameron andlike payton four right and how
much younger obviously he looksbut they might have been in

(02:31:25):
their late 20s even then.
So it's like they were alreadykind of old.
Like these dudes were kind ofalready old, like Lil Wayne,
like people like.
Lil Wayne's an exceptionbecause of how young he got
started.
He wasn't very old, like he'swhat he's in maybe his mid-40s,
like Kanye's, not 50 yet Likethey're younger.

(02:31:46):
Them dudes are younger.

Speaker 2 (02:31:48):
Wayne.
I don't know about you.
Wayne hit his stride at typicalrapper age.
We just saw Way's quote unquotemixtape era, not his real
mixtape era like his early album.
We got to see that on a largescreen because cash money was so

(02:32:09):
big, but we're not reallysupposed to know.
The block is hot Wayne.
We're supposed to meet Wayne atthe Carter.

Speaker 1 (02:32:19):
Correct, but that's my point.
I'm just saying like, even forthem.
But everybody during that timethat early 2000s, them dudes are
all old, like they old.
Like them, dudes are old, likeniggas.
Like Ho is 55.
Like Jay-Z is 55 years old.
Like they old.
Like them, dudes are old Likeniggas.
Like Ho is 55.
Like Jay-Z is 55 years old.
These dudes are older.
Kanye is 57.
That's what I'm saying, evenfor him he's not 50 yet Cam's 49

(02:32:44):
.

Speaker 2 (02:32:44):
So like they're the same age, Cam's 49?

Speaker 1 (02:32:47):
Yeah, okay.
And Jimmy, I think Jimmy's 50.
Oh, he's 48?
Okay, and Jimmy, I thinkJimmy's 50.
Oh, he's 48?
Okay, all right, so they'rekind of the same.

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
And Wayne's probably like 44, 45, something like that
If he's 49, and I'll get you,wayne and I'll be done, all
these niggas the same age he's46, 47?
.
Wayne, it didn't pop up Rightthere.
Let me see Wayne.
Oh yeah, wayne's 42.
He's a baby to them.

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
But these are like the youngerdudes, like Beyonce had just
turned 40 not that long ago, andso yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:33:24):
I'm just saying, I just thought you were.
I just didn't want you to putKanye in the Wayne age group,
because Kanye is more, so closerto them and he acts like them,
because he acts a fool on theinternet, correct?

Speaker 1 (02:33:39):
That's true, that's absolutely true, albeit, maybe a
little bit different of a spacebecause they kind of just speak
.
He just tweets and doesinterviews.

Speaker 2 (02:33:49):
Point being is you put their thoughts out there
that could have realconsequences for their business
and they say, fuck it, it mayhelp their business, it may not,
they don't mind.
I don't know.
I just think it's lame.

Speaker 1 (02:34:09):
I would be enjoying my money at that age.
I keep working.
Of course they're going tocontinue to work, but like,
because nobody stops.
Nobody stops, literally.
The richest people in the worldcontinue to work every day.
So like nobody stops, but likeI would be enjoying it more and
not want to be, especially ifI'm not active in music, which,

(02:34:32):
for the most part, none of themare.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
I mean I guess it kind of is.
No, Jim is active.
Jim just dropped the album forFriday.

Speaker 1 (02:34:40):
I didn't hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:41):
Independent.
I heard it.
It's actually a good albumReally.
Yeah, no, Jim's dropping analbum like every 18 months.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
Yeah, and nobody's really checking on it either,
right, but like it doesn't meanthat it there's not, it doesn't
still have listening ability andvalue.
But like nobody's checking onjim jones's music, like I didn't
.
Like I said I didn't know hedropped, but like jim jones has
never been a mainstream soloartist.

Speaker 2 (02:35:11):
Yeah, he had, that's true too.
He had his one hit, somefeatures here or there, but like
Jim Jones was talking aboutdoing a verse.
Jim Jones, you can't do averses of your own work because
it's niche.
It's niche, bro.
It's niche bro, like me, andyou would enjoy a Rocco versus

(02:35:36):
some Atlanta artist versus, butthat's just niche.
Yeah, like a Rocco, maybe a Dro.

Speaker 1 (02:35:46):
Yeah, he would watch Dro, though Straight up.

Speaker 2 (02:35:49):
I'm trying to find his comp.
I don't think Rocco has a goodcomp.

Speaker 1 (02:35:52):
Bob would be closer I don't think Rocco has a good
comp.
Bob would be closer.
I don't think BOB and BOB's gotmore mainstream hits.
But I'm just saying in terms ofsomeone that's got about the
same amount of songs that we allfuck with.
They got like six, seven songs.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
But the crowd who would show up to that versus you
don't like.
The crowd who would show up tothat versus you don't like.
They're two different crowds,so you don't walk away from that
with a good feel of who won theversus.

Speaker 1 (02:36:17):
Dro doesn't have a good comp here, not.
Dro, I mean not Dro Rocco, nothere, it has to be Rocco.
Maybe I think Project Pat couldgo against.
I think Project Pat would win,but he would be a good, maybe
kind of Memphis' version.
I don't know, I don't know ifthat's a good comp, but I'm just

(02:36:38):
saying maybe somebody like him.

Speaker 2 (02:36:42):
Because Rocco in a 10-song versus could wash.
Rocco could hold his ownagainst better artists if you
limit the catalog.

Speaker 1 (02:36:55):
Could Lil Jon go against BOB?

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
Lil B BOB couldn't go against Lil Jon.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
I know Lil Jon's got more, but I'm saying they also
both have that appeal outside ofjust like rap no, no, bob Lil
Jon is BOB doesn't have a Loversand Friends.

Speaker 2 (02:37:19):
It doesn't have a yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:37:22):
Airplanes was pretty big, and so was.

Speaker 2 (02:37:26):
Bro, you've been hearing, yeah, since you were in
the.

Speaker 1 (02:37:30):
But okay.
But now this gets to my pointtoo.
I'm talking about their songs.
I know, lil yeah, it's alwaysbeen Usher's song to me.

Speaker 2 (02:37:40):
Well, Lil Jon made the beat, produced it I know,
but but all Lil Jon songs arekind of somebody else.

Speaker 1 (02:37:49):
I'm talking Lil Jon and the East Side Boys basically
.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
Lil Jon.
His competition would besomebody like a DJ Khaled,
somebody who makes conk albums.

Speaker 1 (02:38:00):
But that ain't even fair, because DJ Khaled doesn't
have any verses on anything.

Speaker 2 (02:38:05):
But I'm just saying that's more of who he would be
going not Dr Dre, but a Dr DreAkon maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:38:12):
Somebody like Akon, that's but a.

Speaker 2 (02:38:14):
Dr Dre Akon maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:38:15):
Somebody like Akon.

Speaker 2 (02:38:16):
That's actually a good versus Lil Jon and Akon.

Speaker 1 (02:38:19):
Okay, convict, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:38:24):
Those crowds mix because that's a nice southern
slash commercial crowd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, somehow wegot to talking about versus.
I actually think that's waybetter than talking about old
niggas beefing online.
But I will tell you, if we evergot into like podcast beef it

(02:38:46):
was real podcast beef I woulduse our podcast to throw shots
at people, but I would never doit in a way that was completely
obvious to anybody except themand anybody who knew what was
going on.
Right, you know, I wouldn'tlike send her a show around and

(02:39:06):
like, hey, let me talk aboutthese suck-ass niggas who got
beef with AC Lee and Paul APPauls.
Let me talk about thesesuck-ass niggas who got beef
with AC Lee and Paul AP Pauls.
If you think you can talkAtlanta sports, hip-hop, culture
, his life better than us?
Nah, man, I remember you andForbes not even getting on the B
court, son, not on the B courtin Forbes, nigga, you ate in the

(02:39:30):
cab in the very back byyourself, fried chicken.
Wednesday.
You went to the burger line,nigga, we smacking chicken out
your plate.
I look like doing some shitlike that.

Speaker 1 (02:39:43):
And hey, hey, nigga.
And when you went up there,tyrone didn't even give you the
patty melt.
He just said nah, nigga, here,take this burger.
When we went up there, wewanted a burger.
We said hey, ty, we want apatty melt.
Ty fucking buttered it on theother side.
He smashed it together, nigga,we got a patty melt, which he

(02:40:05):
did.
Tyrone used to throw someEspecially.
Let me tell you anytime I wentin there at the end of that shit
with the basketball team, likeafter a practice, and we went in
there that nigga was hookingeverybody up.

Speaker 2 (02:40:16):
Let me tell you who.
I had a good with the Omelette.

Speaker 1 (02:40:19):
Lady.
Miss Lisa, yeah, the OmeletteLady was the fucking truth too.

Speaker 2 (02:40:26):
And what you missed out on was my freshman year.
Her line at lunch was thefreshman year, her line at lunch
was the exotic line.
So like you might come in thereand there's like gator bites,
frog legs, just like randomoff-the-wall shit.
Yeah, my freshman year we hadthat shit at Morehouse.
My first time having frog legswas in the Morehouse cat

(02:40:49):
Shout-out to Chivas or Chivas,whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (02:40:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:40:54):
With a nice remoulade sauce or remoulade.
How the fuck you say that shit?
Yeah, yeah, because, see, I gotcool with Miss Lisa because I
was in ROTC and we get doneworking out early so we might be
in the cab and there's nobodyin there so you actually talking

(02:41:14):
and stuff, and ooh, ah, ah, ah,you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
Yeah, I didn't.
I, you know, and honestly Ionly ate in there really one
semester, but like I do rememberTyrone's ass on the burgers and
I certainly anytime, I actuallyhad a chance to get breakfast
the omelet line.
I just remember her because shewas always one of the cooler
people in there.
It was a fine chick.

(02:41:40):
Then there was the fine chickthat was working the front who
apparently fucked somebody, Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (02:41:50):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:41:51):
It's just something I heard.

Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
I was going to tell you that story.
When we logged off, I got itfirsthand from the source.

Speaker 1 (02:41:59):
Yeah, she looked good , though, honestly, she did look
kind of good.

Speaker 2 (02:42:04):
Little neck tat, little cigarette smoker.

Speaker 1 (02:42:07):
Well, she had a nice little figure too.

Speaker 2 (02:42:12):
So like, yeah, you remember Miss Gwen, old lady
from the main line, blessing outof favor.

Speaker 1 (02:42:23):
I feel like I do.

Speaker 2 (02:42:26):
I mean, you just didn't really live, though it
was only one semester, and thenPSP.

Speaker 1 (02:42:32):
We were there too.
Nah, I don't think that thefull CAF was open like that then
, but we still, because we atethere every day.
But yeah, I only had a semesterbasically of really eating in
there.

Speaker 2 (02:42:48):
You should have done two years on campus.

Speaker 1 (02:42:50):
I should have did a full year.
I think two.
I'm okay with one Half asemester.
I felt like it was good.
I probably should have did afull year.

Speaker 2 (02:42:59):
Here's the thing, though you had a lot of
self-generated fun.
When you're on campus, yousometimes just find shit.
Well, you do know, because theysometimes just find shit, you
know.
Well, you do know, because ourPurdue parties would be niggas

(02:43:20):
finding shit.

Speaker 1 (02:43:21):
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:43:22):
Yeah 100%.

Speaker 1 (02:43:24):
How crazy was it that we had that.
The partying was still the same, though, for me for really the
first two years, even though Ididn't live on campus, I was
still there, especially onFriday.
Anyways, even though I didn'tlive on campus, I was still
there, especially on Fridaynight.
Even when I moved off campus, Ididn't go back.
I would either stay in Josh'sroom or, once you moved to,
purdue was there.

Speaker 2 (02:43:46):
Yeah, I'd be there Anyways.
The crazy thing was that RD,let us throw these wild parties
was Lee?

Speaker 1 (02:43:59):
was Lee y'all's RD at the time?
Right, yeah, like he knew.
So Lee was Justice's RD atBrazil, his freshman year.

Speaker 2 (02:44:08):
Lee's only request was that we cleaned up
everything.
Like we got in trouble one timebecause pick nasty you remember
pick nasty.
Lee's only request was that wecleaned up everything.
Like we got in trouble one timebecause Pick Nasty you remember
, pick Nasty, pick Nasty invitedthe joint over.
They drunk a bottle of vodka.
She didn't want to cut nothing.
He spazzes on her.
Yo come over here and drink allmy liquor and not let me fuck,

(02:44:31):
fuck, throw it off on her.
Yo come over here and drink allmy liquor and not let me fuck
what, throw it off.
And like she leaves and like hetakes both of the trash cans
and just throws them down thehall.
He rips off everything off thebulletin boards.
You know, I'm watching it, Idon't care.
And then Lee comes back at usbecause we were like me and

(02:44:54):
Teron were like low-key, theresponsible ones on the hall,
which is crazy.
And he was like what is this?
He was like if y'all want tokeep partying, y'all got to like
clean this up.
So we end up like cleaning itup and all of that stuff and
making it nice and doing likethis, maybe theme and shit.

(02:45:15):
But I mean, bro, we hadBonzilla in dorm rooms, doors
wide open and just a party onthe whole wing and people
outside on the front with thedoor propped open, smoking weed.

Speaker 1 (02:45:30):
Yeah, no, I remember.
Look, I brought that bongzillaover, and so imagine walking
through the front of a fuckingbuilding with that shit too.
Think of it that way too.
Imagine walking through.
Now they can't really sayanything to you because well,
what are you gonna?
Say, well, this could be a propfor all you know, it could be

(02:45:53):
decoration, like you don't knowwhat, I'm using this, why I'm
bringing it in, but it's stillthis big ass box and the RA was
coming to the party too who wasthe.
Ra, that was there.

Speaker 2 (02:46:06):
I don't remember, but he was cool and we just said,
hey, if you ever have a party,any girl you want.
But he was cool and we justsaid, hey, if you ever have a
party, any girl you want, youcan shoot, no problem, this is a
girlfriend and we'll pour youup.
The RA could always party withus, yeah, even if the ratio's

(02:46:31):
off.
Hey, this guy runs the place.
Yeah, he's welcome.

Speaker 1 (02:46:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:46:40):
He can just shut this down.
You know the crazy thing,though, about you walking into
the dorm, and maybe a goodreason why you didn't live in
the dorm.
You come in there with Bonzilla.
You're typically not byyourself.
You got another guy or two withyou.
You got a few chicks.
You know, you, we ain't got, weain't got them all there, but,
like the baby tiles of the world, um, uh, some of the other ones

(02:47:02):
who, like, would just be there,no matter if it was good or bad
, kai, yeah, yeah, I couldn'tthink of the name chan.
Yeah they're there for setup andyou already know these niggas
in the lobby going out, niggassmoking cigarettes on the stoop,
Like what y'all got going.

(02:47:22):
Nigga nothing All right, noneof your business.
You'll hear us, but don't crossthat line.

Speaker 1 (02:47:32):
I tell you what unless you got a 12-pack, then
you just look at them.

Speaker 2 (02:47:35):
You got booze, or do you want to have some more?

Speaker 1 (02:47:38):
You got some decent women.
Like we're not even nobody'snecessarily going into this
saying, oh yeah, we're going tohave sex, but that is actually
at that point in time.
No, that is kind of what I wantto do.
Do you have women that willcome over that you know that
there's a chance.
I've never met them.
Like, can I meet some newpeople?
Yeah, we don't need any moreguys.

(02:48:01):
I've got enough guy friends inhere.

Speaker 2 (02:48:03):
Yeah and you don't have any alcohol, then you need
to have some butt and it's notyour butt, so like and this dorm
is full of dudes, so if we needextra dudes, we know who to
call next.
Anyways, if we need more men,Well, and you know, for me, I'll
hit up somebody like HaitianJosh Cam Marv, Like, if we need
an extra dude or two, we allhave friends that wouldn't be at

(02:48:27):
those parties, that would bethere in 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:48:30):
Yeah, jp might have been selling some shit or
something and we could call himfrom LLC and say hey, there
might be some people in herethat want to cop.

Speaker 2 (02:48:44):
And then it might be somebody bringing something in
and we cool with them andthey're like oh, y'all have a
party.
Bet, I'm going to hit up BecauseI'll tell you, one of the
wildest nights we had in Purduewas we had, I'm sure, he came in

(02:49:07):
with a dude.
She knew Pig Nasty.
She came and talked to PigNasty for a little while and
then she didn't leave him.
Dude, she knew Pig Nasty.
She came and talked to PigNasty for a little while and
then she didn't leave them dudes.
I mean she didn't go back tothem dudes.
I mean they like in the hallwaychecking and shit.
I don't know what she did thatnight, but you know, things

(02:49:29):
happen.
Is there anything else you wantto talk about?
Because I mean we're at threehours Telling old college
stories.

Speaker 1 (02:49:40):
We're pretty much done here.

Speaker 2 (02:49:43):
Yeah, we are All right.
Man, this has been great.
I don't know what I'm about todo.
Probably stare at my computerand decide if I'm going to do
some work before I go to bed orif I'm going to do it in the
morning.

Speaker 1 (02:49:58):
Well, you have fun with that.
I might be getting ready tohave some iPhone.
We'll see here shortly.

Speaker 2 (02:50:04):
Yeah, I figured you know be responsible.

Speaker 1 (02:50:10):
Of course, as always, all right dog, all right
brother, Another great podcast.
Salutations to the good peopleout there.

Speaker 2 (02:50:20):
All right, dog, I'll holler at you, all right.

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