Stephen A's $100 Million Mouth and Other Ridiculous Realities

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey Parley, Pete, I just we're live.
Don't say anything, that'll getus cancelled.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I can't promise you anything.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Alright, so I didn't tell you this, but I think we
should start the show the sameway we started pre-production.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Go on.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh, I was gonna ask you the same question.
I asked you in pre-productionto start the show.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
No what.
I didn't think you were goingto humor me.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm here to look.
Everybody else has to know whatthe question is.
I already know what thequestion is, just like I already
know the answer.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, here's the thing.
I think everybody out there whodoesn't know the question knows
the answer, so they don'treally gain anything from us
discussing it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So do you just want to rhetorically ask it?
No, okay, no.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I think asking the question does the same thing as
answering it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It does Because the question is only asked in order
for everybody to just have thatin their head and say well, no.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
And the idea of head in this table no, and the idea
of having the privateconversation right is for
selected individuals in thepublic and it doesn't matter who
.
The public is right.
Don't get privy to how you feelabout this or conclude that you

(01:43):
said this.
Uh-huh, but I think that's oneof those get privy to how you
feel about this or can provethat you said this.
But I think that's one of those.
If you ask it, you've alreadysaid it, Because why would you
have to ask?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's kind of like the .
You know everybody uses this asthe biggest cliche he's like,
and the sky is blue, even thoughtonight is supposed to be red
and hey.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But think about this in our private conversation, we
don't say the sky is blue, wesay other things.
No, well, we won't say it here.
Five minutes, two minutes in, Ijust think that.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, we won't say it here.
Five minutes, two minutes in.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I just think that again, it's one of those things
where when the question is asked, it's answered.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh kind of like is the WNBA strike going to work?
Well, I would counter aquestion like that and say, well
, is the WNBA profitable?
Both of them give you the sameanswer, because when you answer

(03:06):
a question with a question, ittypically is to.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
You know it could answer itself.
You know, well, some would saythe league is profitable to some
people.
Now, probably not the owners,probably not the television
partners, probably not thearenas you know the arenas.

(03:33):
You know they end each year inthe black.
But those WNBA you know thatreally messes up the matches,
unless Kaitlin Clark is in town,If you think about it.
It's the players Well, maybethe players and the coaches.
Well, the coaches probably makeless than the players.

(03:53):
Yeah, the coaches are the oneswho probably should really
consider getting a day job, notthe basketball players.
We don't talk about the fourthassistant.
You know a shitty NBA assistantdoesn't get paid well.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
He still lives all right though.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, Now imagine being like the end of the bench
back row, if they have one WNBA.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, you're a glorified water girl at that
point, or water boy, I mean a$16,000 a year at that point, I
mean, yeah, you might haveanother job during the season.
Yeah, that's your night job,Then you have your day job.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, like you might be driving Uber.
It's not like anybody knows you.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Right and you can get away with it.
You know you can get away withdoing other jobs, unlike that
New York police officer, whichI'm sure Did you see.
That, by the way, I mean, Iknow we're not in culture, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, no, let's stay here, because we're not going to
remember that at the back endof the show yeah, I mean
speaking of back end.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Hey, hot tub, basketball court, tennis court,
you name it.
It was all in the backyard, ohyeah.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean you talk about a state-of-the-art masterpiece
crafted by some of the bestlandscapers in this country,
Maybe in the world, because thatbackyard may have been imported
.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's fine ingenuity, damn fine ingenuity.
I just think it's kind of crazythat it actually really this is
a question.
Question just in general, iswhat you do on your off time?
Should that dictate your job?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I know that you're a representation of something, but
if you're not doing anythingillegal Depends on your job and
I think when you start talkingabout public servants, I think
there are more constraints thatyou can put on them.
I don't think they're necessaryfor the person to be able to do

(06:29):
their job in a vacuum, but I dothink, because we've built up a
certain public perception forcareers, that it doesn't play
well to do these things publicly.
Like, hey, if she wants toshake ass, scantily clad, cool.
But to put it in a video, Idon't know, is it because it is

(06:57):
sexualization?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
basically, I mean that's really the issue here.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Sexualization as an SVU cop being in a rap video.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
As a cop, you know he may not be doing anything
illegal, but the perception comeon, man yeah, I don't think
that she thought it through atall, but I just guess did that
warrant her to lose her job?
Why couldn't that have been awarning?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know their policy and I don't know what
other things she may have doneleading up to this, or whether
or not she had been warned, orwhether or not she asked for
permission and was told no, andshe still did it.
I don't know enough.
I don't know enough to say thatshe should have lost her job,
but I would be okay if the NewYork Police Department said hey,

(07:53):
we don't want any of our policeofficers to appear in any type
of media without our sign-off.
That's fair.
I mean because in the military,you know, there are certain
topics we didn't talk aboutbecause I could have gotten in
trouble for that, based on themilitary's rules.

(08:13):
I'm sure there are some clipson here that they could go find
and try to say that I wasviolating the military social
media policy.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
yeah, which is why you never saw me in military,
violating the military socialmedia policy.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know what I mean, yeah, which is why you never
saw me in military stuff on mysocial media while I was in,
because but then it also kind ofgets into freedom of speech.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I mean, you could go down a rabbit hole for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
but when you work for the government, you sacrifice
some of those rights.
When you take that oath andsign that paper, they're rights
as a citizen, but that doesn'tmean I have to employ you if you
want to execute some of thoserights.
Right, you can't have a gun ona military base.

(09:01):
You can, but it has to beregistered.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
There's a process Right Like you just can't.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Sounds like you were working for Vince McMahon.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I don't think it was that toxic.
Well, not literally.
I'm on screen, vince McMahon.
How about that?
You know, he'd fire a lot ofass.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, basically, I mean he was getting away with it
, but I wasn't good enough atthe military to get away with
stuff like that.
I was good enough to hang out.
Fall in line, nigga, you soundlike Triple H hey.

(09:49):
Okay, we've gone too far.
Is the WNBA strike going towork?
I think that's how we can closeout that topic and not even hit
it later.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Again, I ask you is the WNBA profitable?
The answer to that questionanswers it, really does.
It answers that questionBecause you can't strike from
something that doesn't makemoney, but if it makes money you
can strike and it'll work.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Angel Reese thinks that they should be paid like
NBA players, and a much morerefined polished spokesperson
for the WNBA said a year ago,when we talked about this is
that it's not about the moneyand dollars, it's about the
profit shares.
It's not about the money anddollars, it's about the profit

(10:49):
shares.
Excuse me, excuse me, therevenue split.
Excuse me, the revenue split.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, and I get it.
It's a subsidiary of the.
Nba, but that's revenue, yeah,but that's its own thing.
And so just because you haverevenue doesn't mean you make
money.
I mean, I think we all knowthis, right.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, just because Def Jam South is burning through
money because none of theartists are working, doesn't
mean Def Jam proper is going tohurt big pictures.
It's like, ah, we just cut outthe South Division, we'll just
roll up to good artists and toregular Def Jam.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, and unfortunately for them, they
can't do something like that.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
They can go to unrivaled.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know, jason Whitlock said something real
important about that too.
He wondered who signed off onthat to put that on TV.
He's like we don't need anotherwomen's league.
That's basically what he said.
It's good basketball, yeah, butisn't that what the WNBA is

(12:09):
supposed to be too?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, but the women want to play basketball during
basketball season?
Sure, and they want to competewith the wmba.
That I mean with the actual nbathat struggles to turn a good
american number on the nighttonight.
I know they turn a decentnumber, but like the nba it

(12:37):
takes celtics versus lakers.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Um, I have no idea what cics Thunder got, but it
takes those type of games inorder for them to really get
those numbers up.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, and you want to compete like, so you want to.
You want to play a W and youwant to play a women's
basketball game On Friday Ateight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
While the ESPN game is on.
While the ESPN game is on,while grown men and women are
getting ready to go out.
While we might already be out.
Yeah, well, and maybe they'retrying to set it up to be that
that is the date night move,right, what?
To go to their game.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
They're all in Miami.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, if you're in Miami.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
They rented out a gym in Miami and they play there.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know what's pretty sad about that.
Might be the worst place tohave done that.
I mean, nobody cares aboutsports in Miami period.
Maybe worst place to have donethat.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean nobody cares about sports in Miami period.
Maybe the financial backerswant to see their product and
they want an excuse to be inMiami during the winter.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Sounds like a fucking tax write-off to me, Lee.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I mean, what is the WNBA?
That's what that is for the NBAfor sure hey, and here's the
crazy thing, people would thinkthat we don't like women's
basketball that's the furthestthing from the truth we just
understand TV and money businessin general, the WNBA is a bad

(14:24):
TV show.
We just understand TV and moneyBusiness in general, the WNBA is
a bad TV show, even if you likeit, because at the end of the
day, tv shows are just wrongratings.
Some of my favorite shows gotcanceled after a season or two
and I thought they were goodshows, but not enough people did

(14:46):
Give me an example of one ofthose shows.
I'm just curious.
Rosewood, it was a what's that?
Morris Chestnut was in it Somereally nice looking Hispanic
lady and they had like thisbudding romance thing.
He was like a criminalpathologist but he didn't work

(15:08):
for like the Miami PD.
She worked for Miami PD.
He didn't work for them but hecould, like, do certain things
that the cops couldn't do andthen give them the information.
It was just.
It was just a good old TV copTV show and I liked it and well,
I didn't get to stay.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I can't say I've ever heard of it.
Fox CBS.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's one of those majors.
I used to watch it on Hulu, soI don't remember which network
it was on and that was Hulu along time ago, because you know
they have their media rightsdeals too but it may have been a
Fox show.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Hulu typically has.
I mean they have ABC too, butlike I don't know, I've always
felt like Hulu was like a Foxthing, low key.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Did you watch White Famous with Jay Pharoah?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
No, I'm not a TV person, that's right, even
though I will say this Netflixliterally announced my two
favorite shows within the lastcouple days, giving us dates,
release dates which are going tobe next month.
I like you.
You was a show that I reallygot into.
And then Black Mirror.

(16:28):
They dropped the trailer forBlack Mirror today, and I love
Black Mirror.
I like anthologies and stufflike that.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, okay, it was on USA, that's probably why I
never heard of it.
Is that still a network?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Well, they've got to be getting ready to plummet.
After losing Monday Night Rawto Netflix, I couldn't tell you
what's on USA Network.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I can't tell you which cable networks really
exist, that much because I don'twatch linear cable TV unless
I'm watching sports.
I don't even really watchsports shows on TV.
What's the podcast called?
Well, it's much more of a.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
YouTube thing at this point.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah yeah.
The worst thing that happenedto cable was allowing YouTube to
go on the television easily.
Like airplay is one thing, butthat's work.
Then you gotta like, exposeyour phone and most of us don't
be going to expose our phoneslike that and shit.
You know what I mean.

(17:42):
Like eh.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
But, you know, in a weird way, that's why your Hulus
of the world they're almostlike, I'm not going to say like
syndication, but like, yeah, youknow, when Atlanta was out, I
never watched Atlanta on FX atThursday, at whatever time.
It came on, like 9 or whatevertime.
I watched it the very next dayon Hulu.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I Mean that's me with SVU.
It's probably on right now orjust went off.
I'll watch it on peacock when Iget home from work tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
You're big fan of SVU , seen every episode.
See you with ice.
Wow, now is this the SVU withIce-T.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, Seasons, probably 1 through 18.
I've probably seen each episode2 or 3 times, isn't?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
it crazy that he's more he might be more known for
that really than his rap career.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean same with Will Smith.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, that's fair.
I mean, it's a little differentjust in a sense, because, think
about it Will Smith has aGrammy for best album.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
You don't think rapper when you think Will Smith
.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, that's not the first thing I think.
I definitely think movie starWell think about Ice-T's older
too.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like we didn't hear an Ice-T song, we still heard
some mainstream Will Smith rapGetting jiggy with it.
Just the two of us.
We're going straight to theWild, wild West.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Men in Black, men in Black.
But see, and that's the otherpart though, he incorporated his
movies with the music, so likeIce-T can't be in movies because
he can't act.
They get him from Ant-Mancommercials though.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Because he got that stupid voice.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, he's an investigator, but he's really a
gangster rap artist.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Name an Ice-T song.
I can't so, and I think that'swhat's hard for us.
We weren't around for Ice-T.
I know who Ice-T's wife is,coco.
Yeah, you know those CocoMelons.
Hey, now Like the Say now thosecocoa melons.
Hey, now like.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
The say now look, at this yeah, what's his stream
number on there, like hismonthly listeners?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm on Apple.
I don't use that penzantree,excuse me, he dropped us.
He was in a song that came outin november yeah, but what type
of play was it getting?
I don't know it's um.
Let's see I bet this is bad.

(20:45):
This beat is bad.
Okay, we're done here.
This is new.
Came out in November.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
You know, I'll tell you the one.
Here we go.
I'll tell you the one IT song.
I do know he's got the SouljaBoy disc.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
That don't count.
Yeah, bro, we're not.
We don't remember that rap.
We didn't listen to that rap.
Yeah.
That's like the worst thing inhip-hop bro.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah would you call it like Disney's.
What do they call that era forDisney?
The Silver Era or whatever theycall it Really, the Dark Ages,
if we want to keep it real.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, all that old 80s rap shit, even some of the
early 90s, it was trash.
They were good rappers.
Don't get it twisted.
Their ability to put wordstogether, but the beats, the
flows, the patterns this is notappealing to the ear.

(22:10):
Some people like Applebee's.
I don't judge people for likingApplebee's, but don't invite me
if we're going for food.
Don't invite me before they dothe dollar beers or three dollar

(22:34):
fucking Henny Margaritas andthe half off apps.
If you invite me to Applebee'sbefore those hours, the answer
is always no.
And if you invite me toApplebee's during those hours,
the answer is always no.
And if you invite me toApplebee's during those hours if
I have something better to door stay at home, I'll probably

(22:55):
do that, unless there's someyada means in there.
That's different.
Right Hookup price come on manlike Pete, hold on.
Where is the closest Applebee'sin the city?
Camp Creek, isn't it one downthere?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
you know it's funny, I was just over there not that
long ago, probably.
That would probably eitherthere or you, thornton Road.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Maybe Thornton Road area, just because there's so
many dealerships and stuff andit's like one of those areas.
So maybe you think about it Imean there could be one by a
mall, like not Lenennon's, butmaybe there could be one in Cobb
, over there maybe thereprobably is one by Cumberland

(23:53):
yeah yeah, no, there is one byCumberland.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's about a battery yeah.
Beyonce's butt looks fake inthe Levi's commercial looks nice
.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
um, you know, beyonce's butt looks fake in the
Levi's commercial.
Looks nice and say it looks bad.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, I'm not complaining, but yeah,
Applebee's, they don't reallyexist in real cities.
They're definitely a suburbanthing or country thing.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, I mean, but that's their target audience.
What the poors Bring out thefamily for a little neighborhood
grill.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Can we at least do Longhorn?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know, longhorn started here in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I didn't know that, but I feel like Applebee's isn't
even a family dinner.
It's like taking your family toa Falcons preseason game and
sitting in the 300s.
Let's just save up a little bitmore.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's what I was trying to tell you.
Actually, it's funny because wekind of spoke on Applebee's
earlier this week Because I saidI didn't remember the last time
I went, but me and Mr Turnerwent.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
We don't have to contextualize it.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, but I'm just saying why you would ever go to
Applebee's AAU teams are hittingApplebee's.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, outside of when .
I mean yeah, outside of.
When I first moved to Albany, Idid hit Applebee's a lot on the
weekends, a lot of Sundays.
Applebee's like coming backfrom the Falcons games.
There would just be peoplethere.
It's like the bar.
Well, no, it's just peoplethere at the bar.

(25:44):
The game is on, but that's notwhat they're there for.
So, yeah, but yeah, no, allright, we've talked enough about
nothing.
Man, how you doing today?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Wait, you went out for a second.
What'd you?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
say I said we've talked uh long enough about
nothing.
How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
we're doing fantastic .
Um, you know, had a littleinternet issue here, obviously,
while we got started a littlebit later than we should have,
but, um, we're doing pretty good.
How are we doing on that?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
end.
Oh man, not too bad, not toobad, uh, just out here trying to
make a dollar and a dream.
Support the community, uh, makemyself better as a man.
Uh, uh, I'm chilling.
That's good, that's good.

(26:57):
You sound like uh, you soundlike Paul George Talking about
the guy who's done playingbasketball for the year.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah yeah, that guy.
Well, you can say that you cansay the biggest maybe mistake of
a signing ever.
I can't really think of onewhere maybe Russell Wilson, I
guess to the Broncos too likeI'm not gonna give that to Paul

(27:26):
yet.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's crazy, false, I can't even just get away with
that.
That's crazy.
I got to pause that.
But I got to see year twobecause if he does have work
done on his especially his knee,if he does have work done on

(27:47):
his especially his knee, itgives me another year to say,
okay, something happened.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Let's see what it looks like when he's healthy.
I don't think that they'regoing to want another year or
two, though that's the issue.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, I mean he's on the block.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I mean somebody's going to.
Somebody's going to, I meanhe's going to play somewhere
next year.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't know, if we get to lie to Biden, how do you
match the salary?
That is the new Brad Billcontract, literally?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
How do you match the salaries?
That is the new Brad Billcontract.
Literally, how do?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
you match the salaries.
Well, again unfortunately forthe Sixers, they're going to
have to give away draft capitalto get off of it.
I think.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Maybe trade for a lamello ball If they get a
Cooper flag.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And you Well, paul George is too similar to Brandon
Miller.
Yeah, think about it.
That was literally his comp.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
That was low key, like his comp, and Brandon
Miller was playing well beforehe got hurt, but that was
low-key like his comp andBrandon Miller was playing well
before he got hurt.
Brandon from Zion.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I don't think you're going to be able to get even
that quality of a player.
I mean Zion.
When healthy is a good player,it's not like he's not a good
player.
Paul George is old, overpaid,injury-prone.
I mean, what are the pluses ofPaul George?
At this point?
He's better than Clay Thompson.

(29:36):

Speaker 1 (29:39):
He's still better than guys like that.
I don't want to.
I got to see him healthy.
If he's healthy next year, he'sstill better than Kyle Kuzma.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
He's better than Kyle .
I don't see in what worldanyone trades for that.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
The Lakers are definitely grabbing their ankles
today.
What's the score?
179, with 235 left in the third.
Who's doing it?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
When I spoke on the phone with Mr Turner, he had
actually had a bet in where hetook Giannis to get X amount of
points and he only had six inthe first half.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Luka had 29 in the first half Efficient.
Let's see what.
Let me see what Giannis isdoing, Because I mean Giannis is
about to hit the bench for therest of the game.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I was about to say, give us a.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, got nothing.
This guy's disappeared on me.
He's frozen.
You said I'm frozen.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, you were.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Oh, giannis has 18, 7 for 15.
Yeah, luca has 38, 12 for 23, 6for 12 from 3, 11 rebounds, 2
assists.
What's Kyle?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Kuzma doing in the Middleton role tonight 1 for 6,
2 points.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, 0 for 1 for 3, 4 rebounds, 2 fouls.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
So Dame Willard must be going to town.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Brooke Lopez 20.
Brooke Lopez has 19 on 7 for 8,and Dame has 17 on 4 for 8, and
Dame also has 10 assists.
Kevin Porter Jr has 21 on 10shots.
He's getting off.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Oh, wow, okay, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
From watching the game, it looked like Kevin he's
getting off.
From watching the game, itlooked like Kevin Porter was
getting off.
I just kept seeing him with theball and scoring.
Then you look at the box scoreyou go.
Okay.
Yeah, kevin Porter's a goodbasketball player.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
He's kind of a head case too, though.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Not speaking to the person.
Speaking to the guy the abilityto put the ball in the bucket.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
You know, it's funny, though, because what now he got
?
It was like domestic violencewith him, because he missed like
, basically almost like a wholeyear because of that.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, he missed a year.
Then he went overseas for alittle while.
He came back this year.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's good, I mean that's it.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't think criminal If you own a business
and somebody can provide valuefor your business and you're
okay accepting the characterrisk.
I'm okay with you accepting thecharacter risk.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Everybody deserves a second chance too.
We know that it's not affordedto everybody, but I think people
deserve a second chance, I meanthink about this.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
People get in an uproar about people in the
limelight, right the public eye,who may be domestic violence,
whatever.
Whatever it is, he gets anotherchance.
But niggas will go to churchand follow a convicted felon to

(33:25):
heaven.
I'm not saying neither shouldfill the role, but one seems a
lot less consequential than theother.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, it depends on how you want to spin it, because
some could say that convictedfelon is actually the right
person to talk to because he hasmessed up and, um, you know, he
, he knows what it's like to beat the bottom and and how god
can lead you out, right.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I think that's the healthy spin to look at it.
But others would say Just atestimony.
This guy's a felon.
Why are we following him?
I'm not trying to go to thechain gang, but a guy who beats
up on his woman, who I don'tthink domestic violence is okay,

(34:25):
by no means I don't thinkviolence is okay, bro.
Don't hit people.
Grow up, have some emotionalcontrol.
But what does that have to dowith him putting the ball in the
bucket?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Maybe he doesn't sell as many jerseys well, you got a
lot of people that disagreewith you on that one.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I know there are a lot of people that disagree with
me on that one and I'm okaywith them disagreeing.
I'm okay with them feeling thatway.
I understand why they feel thatway.
I'm just not a moralist.
I ain't saying he's gonna watchmy kid or I want him to date my

(35:14):
daughter.
You know, not my actualdaughter, because my daughter's
two okay, just for the weirdos.
Yeah tongue-in-cheek yeah, Iain't saying that.
Oh, he can put a new carburetorin my truck.
He can go to the NBA.

(35:35):
And who?
He can go?
Sack the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Right, it's his job, yeah, and he can do it well.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
You know what, though I have no idea.
I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Some people can look at it and say, you know, he
doesn't deserve that privilege.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And I would say you don't deserve the privilege to
say that because you don't own ateam.
More importantly, you don't runthe league because 29 owners
can say he doesn't deserve to bein our league and one can say,
well, I want him on my team.
Come on Now.

(36:34):
Silver doesn't want him in theleague.
That's different.
Hold on this Hyundai commercial.
I just thought was really weird.
it had like a priest in theconfessional, uh, the
confessional booth, whateverthey call that thing making a
weird face, but like I'm notreally watching the ipad and I

(36:57):
can't hear it, so I have nocontext of why he was making
that face.
But I never want to see a fat,balding old white man as a
Catholic priest making anuncomfortable face in the
confessional.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
To sell a car.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean I don't want to see it,period.
I mean because he could be inthe confessional right on the
other side talking to anotherpriest and they just be in there
gossiping.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know about how good, how many miles they're
getting on that thing for a gown.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, yeah, you know how spacious it is.
Yeah, brand new, fresh off thelot, never been touched.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm the first person to drive this bad boy, never
been touched.
Huh, that is crazy to say whenit comes to a priest.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I thought the better one was.
I was the first one to drivethis bad boy.
I think that's some of my bestwork right there.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean look, it's a slam dunk.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I mean, you think of the entendres bad boy to bad
bitch.
I don't even want to break itdown because I could have been a
rapper dog.
I could have been one of them.
Rappers that only my fans like.
Paper Boy no, no, because he'sa fake rapper.

(38:34):
I want to be at least comparedto like what's my man's name,
whose verse we always skip onControl.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Jay Electronica.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, jay Electron,let kills that I skipped big
sean's verse that's crazy.
Big sean killed that I thoughtjay elect killed it I've only
heard his voice verse once,maybe twice.
Only heard his verse once maybetwice, but I get your point in

(39:09):
terms of him having his only.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
He has his fans, and if you're not one of his fans,
you probably don't listen to him.
Yeah, I listen to him.
You remember the Jay-Jay-Legalbum that we can't find anymore
?
Yeah, is that shit?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
still streaming.
I'm sure it is, but that's thelast time we really heard Jay-Z
rap.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's like the last time Jay-Z rapped on an album.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, I'm saying like the last time jay-z rapped on
an album.
Yeah, I'm saying like the lasttime we really heard him rap,
like body of work, just rappingwhat's the song on there?
I think ghost of uh soldierslim yeah yeah, yeah yeah, he
says some stuff on there but I'mprobably gonna give it a listen
tonight and then Then the onewith Travis Scott too.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Before it gets to Travis Scott, how it opens up,
uh-huh, I want Jay to just giveus one more album Me too, just
one more, seriously, and let itbe known that it's the last one,
that way we'll know.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I want him to give us the.
I want him to close it out.
I want him to talk about the90s to now.
Take all of your albums,because the one great thing
about Jay is he talks aboutwhere he's at in life and his

(40:47):
music like.
Turn all of those albums intoone double disc.
I want a double disc 20 tracks.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
So but it sounds like you want him to make his the
Life of Pablo, because that'skind of what Kanye did.
He had elements, it felt like,of all his albums up until that
point.
On one album kind of he hadmade some of his older like no
More Parties in LA and RealFriends is more college
dropout-y ish.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
That's Kanye's best.
That's his best album.
Really.
Best isn't the right word.
It is His album with the mostrange.
Maybe isn't the right word.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It is His album with the most range, maybe.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
It's better than that .
It's like it's the culminationof Kanye the musical genius.
It's the gospel, it's thebackpack rap.
It's the song that can work ina club.
It's some of the introspectivestuff.
It's the flexing.
It's the song that can work ina club.
It's some of the introspectivestuff.
It's the flexing.
It's the controversy with theTaylor Swift.

(42:11):
It's like, sonically and just,I think that is his best
produced album.
It's the best display of Kanyethe musical genius.
There we go.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's probably the last time he was happy.
Sure, think about it.
He had just married.
He was with Kim.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, he was happy with Kim then.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, but that was at the beginning of their marriage
, kind of yeah, that was like atthe beginning of like their
marriage kind of.
Yeah, that was wow and that waskind of the start of the Yeezy
clothing because how he like thelistening party he had at
Madison Square Garden, you know,yep Little Yachty's like one of

(43:02):
the fucking models and shitlike for it.
I mean it was an event.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
It was Side note.
I'm just seeing this and I laythe thing that you sent.
She is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, that's why I had to go ahead and shoot it
over to you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
She's just a beautiful woman.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
And she's got a deep guy.
What mid-50s Probably?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Stone cold.
He's got what.
Mid-50s Probably, bro.
We've already opened up aculture hour, so we might as
well just keep it in the culture.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I'm scrolling up to see if there's anything culture
that really matters here beforewe just go to Steve.
Oh, how did you like about thatone rump roast I sent you
yesterday?
I'm going to send it again.
Yeah, hold on.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Let me revisit.
Hold on, I'm not turning mycamera on.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Oh no, he turned off his camera.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I don't know what the fuck you just sent me.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
That's what I was talking about, what you just
sent, yeah, on IG.
Yeah, I sent it to youyesterday.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I don't know what the hell this is.
It's terrible, isn't it?
What in the fuck, actually, youlike it well, low key, ew, yeah
this is kind of nasty.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah low-key ew.
Do you want to talk, Steve, ordo you want to talk?

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Well wait, I'm looking at this other stuff you
have here.
You don't want to do thisfuture thing real quick.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Sure, we can hit that one.
Talk about the stupid broadsaying future is her cheapest
John.
Yes, he only gives her $15 oror 20K for a visit.
I mean Gorgeous dog.

(45:39):
I mean she's gorgeous, she'shot.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, I was going to say she is hot.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I'm not paying $20,000 for your presence,
because if I can pay $20,000 fora beautiful floozy's presence,
there's a poor version of yousomewhere.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
There's that, and then I, just more importantly,
there's that, and then I, justmore importantly, I, I, I don't
understand.
I tell you what.
Let me not say I don'tunderstand.
I would not, if I was makingthat kind of money, be paying
for sex like that.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't think it's paying for sex.
I think it is paying forconsistency with individuals
that you are attracted to,without having to hear what the
fuck they have to say from fourbrothers yeah, you're not paying

(46:50):
her to fuck, you're paying herto leave, but I just think about
it right, as a chick you kindof rock whip, you made her
subtract you think Chris Brownpays for pussy?
I think he spends money on, Ithink he's paid to have a good

(47:15):
time.
Like, let's be real, we spendmoney on women and it's not for
sex.
But some guys would say some ofthe things that we do or have
done is tricky, because it'slike you take, you go to a nice

(47:40):
restaurant with a girl.
Well, you pay for it and youpay for the night out, but
you're not paying for that stuffto have sex with her.
You are paying for yourlifestyle and you just want her
to be a part of your lifestyle.
For that point in time.
Sure, now I'm not giving youcold hard cash, but if I take a

(48:02):
girl to a game, if I take a girlto a concert, the concert, take
a girl to a concert.
The concert ticket may cost acouple hundred dollars.
I'm not buying that to have sexwith you.
I want to go to this concertand I want you to come with me.
Hey, hey.
But I'm not necessarily paying.

(48:28):
I'm not buying this just foryou to have sex with me, because
for me it's like I gotta enjoyyour company before I spend
money.
Once I enjoy your company, I'llspend the money if I have it,
you know.
But it's not because, fuck you,it's just because this is what
I want to do, and I want you todo it with me.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I guess just getting called out for that and I don't
know her feeling like it'sempowering because I guess
clearly there's other men thatspend more than that on her.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
But doesn't that make the future look more player.
It's fucking crazy, but butdoesn't't that make Future look
more?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
player.
It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Doesn't that make Future look more player?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Not if she's making it sound like he's not really
one of them.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
If he's spending less , but he's getting the same
access these other niggas aregetting.
That's still a player.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Sure, I think all in all it's silly.
Even if I had it, I don't knowman.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
But you don't play in those waters either.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I don't, but at the same time it's like I don't, but
at the same time it's like Idon't know, and maybe I'd have
to be there to know, to see itand just really know how this
stuff operates.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
You played in those waters.
I ain't saying you would spendthat much money, but you'd have
to spend money because that'sthe admission fee.
That's the cover.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
And maybe they know that going into it Exactly, they
have to know that going into it.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Exactly so, if Future knows that, because her cover
charge might be $25,000.
Her internal cover charge,which I still can't imagine
dropping $25,000, $15,000 for awoman's present, I think it's

(50:39):
$1,000.
Yeah, no, I ain't doing it.
You can go to if Laurie Harveywas an escort and you could get
her for a thousand for the night, would you do it?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
if that package comes with everything, I mean yeah,
of course so you would do it.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
You would do spend a thousand she's not a good
example because why?
You're thinking about beingseen at the steakhouse with her?
So you're, so you're.
So your rate goes up.
Are you thinking about thebusiness opportunities that
could be linked to her last name?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Possibly.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Are you thinking about just that?
She's just known as one of the.
You know she's a wishlist girl.
I got Lori Harvey on mywishlist.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
And guess what?
She never picked up me calls.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I don't think he got the number.
I think he was dialing from theInstagram inbox.
Oh, he was left on red.
Yo, that's nasty work, rightthere Calling a chick on
Instagram Yo, that's nasty work.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
You know, meek could say that he had Primed Nicki
Minaj, though.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And I bet that travels, that travels.
He'll never be hurt.
He'll never be hurt.
He'll never be hurt to get hisrocks off because Nicki Minaj
has way too many fans.
And then the women who are inthe know right Like oh bag Nicki

(52:40):
.
What's up with this dirty-assPhilly nigga?
He might be on to somethingwith his stupid-ass tweets.
Yeah, you know me a primeexample of that tweet that
Charlamagne put out a while backabout.
You know, one of the worstparts about being an adult is

(53:04):
you don't know what classeverybody is in.
You know how, in school, you'redivided into people who are in
the mother classes.
It's a clear lie Right In thereal world.
You don't know, unless thesyndrome is down and the ass is
up.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
You know I think you said this about Little Baby you
know that he's the type of guythat have one teacher all day,
all four years.
I think Meek might have beenright there next to him in class
carving out into the, to thedesk and chair.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Not really understanding why the bell rings
every 90 minutes.
What's?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
that noise up there.
He just knows that after thesecond bell I get to go to lunch
.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I got the whole cafeteria to myself.
Right.
It's our class to myself.
It's our class.
You know, at my school theywere nice Because you know, like
you had, you had the.
You had Stevenson, maybe notMount Vernon, a little bit

(54:22):
different there, Stevenson.
You may have had a teammate inyour grade who had classes on a
different hallway.
That's a little baby and meek,right, but my high school would
at least let them come outduring class change and be in

(54:43):
the hallway and go back.
So they can conversate and theycan feel normal.
But you know, all of us we'reactually in the hallway because
we got to go across the schoolor down the hall.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Or I have to go to my locker and switch out books.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, your books are in the cubby over there.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Meanwhile you're saying Meek and Lil Baby.
They had all their books intheir book bag and they had that
heavy-ass book bag, the bookbag that had everything in it.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, because once they get to class, they got a
cubby with their name on it.
Yeah, because once they get toclass, they got a cubby with
their name on it, meek.
Little baby.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Niggas were and look, they're where they're at now.
But niggas were, uh, and look,hey, they're where they're at
now, but were, uh, you know,beating on the table and while
in that class I don't reallylike school, all right bro.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I, I hear you, I hear you, we know you don't like
school, all right bro I hear you.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Hey, we know you don't like school.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I wouldn't either if I was on your schedule.
It's not normal.
I'm not gonna hold you.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I really dislike hearing certain people talk like
even young thug he, he speaksthe language so poorly I'm
trying to think Is there anyonethat's really annoying to hear
talk, because you're just likeGod?
What is he saying?
Lil Baby?

(56:41):
He's gotten a lot better,though, honestly.
He's gotten a lot better,though, honestly.
Like he, he did one for like,fucking, like, um, what's it
called?
Something?
Digest, uh, readers, digest.
It's another one, though.
It's like almost like realestate digest or some shit.
They came to his like crib andI mean he seems like he's

(57:03):
actually gotten better in termsof so here's the thing about Lil
Baby.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I don't think the brain function is a problem with
him.
I think he was just one of theones who didn't go to a lot of
school early on and was justbehind.
But he knows what he knows.
He just don't know how to speakit.
I think Peek is actually awell-spoken individual.
He just ain't pulling fromnothing up there.

(57:38):
Bro, you remember the Morehouseniggas who could get up there
and use all the Morehouse wordswhile giving prayer at Crown
Fall.
Get up there and use all theMorehouse words while giving
prayer at Crown Fall.
They up there giving a speechand stuff, but they're not
saying anything.
They're just using big words.
Yeah, you meet niggas like uswho just speak, regular talk,

(58:02):
and the conversation very deep,very layered, high level
conversation.
But you hear some motherfuckers, some goddams, some son of
bitches, some slurs.
You're just hearing peoplespeak regular.
Yeah, and on the outside, lookat this dumbass nigga over here.
No, listen, see, that's alittle baby meek northern nigga,

(58:25):
it sounds good.
No, listen, see, that's alittle baby Meek northern ninja,
it sounds good.
What are you saying?
Hey, who can tell me?
Hey, do they got internet overthere in Africa?
No, how do they listen to mymusic in Africa.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I don't know Meek.
They get on the app thatstreams it.
How do they listen to my musicin Africa?
I don't know me.
They get on the app thatstreams it YouTube.
I tell you what.
How do you listen to your musicif you want to?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
How would you do it?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I'd hope that you don't listen to much of it after
you make it.
More importantly, why are youaddressing an entire continent,
Me?
You know, I mean one thing ifyou were talking about a
specific country, right, youliterally just addressed, you
know 50, 60 nations, Bro.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
That's why I hate hip-hop.
A lot of hip-hop so much ofhip-hop is dumb.
A lot of high school dropouts,a lot of people who've never
worked 9 to 5 jobs and livedconventional lives.
You're talking aboutmulti-generations of project
people ever work nine to fivejobs and live conventional lives
.
You're talking about multi,multi generations of like
project people.
And then they get this moneyand then, like, they get linked
up with some good investors sothey keep getting richer.

(59:54):
And then they want to like talkto the world and explain things
like I'm listening to joebudden yesterday and I'm telling
you, bringing Dr Lamont Hill,morehouse College dropout, on,
there is one of the great like agreat thing because they
actually have somebody who's notdumb and I'm not saying they're

(01:00:17):
dumb, they're not actually dumb, they're intellect, they're
intelligent human beings, butthey've just acquired a bunch of
knowledge that they just lackknowledge in certain areas,
right, and he was saying thereneeds to be a law against false
sexual allegations, which thereis, but it needs to be more

(01:00:42):
heavily enforced.
And then Mark was like well,you know what happens.
Like rich and powerful menwould then use that law to their
advantage because they would dothings to to women who don't,
who can't, who can't fight thelegal battle.
They'd beat them in court andthen turn back around and now

(01:01:02):
they're getting locked up.
So actual victims.
That will actually silencevictims.
I don't think it takes a doctorto have to tell you that.
I think once you think that,thought out loud, you should go.
Well, hold on.
Rape victims already don'tspeak up enough.
That's why me too was such abig thing.
Now we may be over corrected,but we don't ever want to put

(01:01:28):
something into place that isgoing to scare a victim from
from getting the justice theydeserve.
You know what I mean, right?
I'm sorry, bro.
You know I hate black media,I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Bro, you know I hate black media.
You know here was one otherthing Mainstream black media,
and it falls in line with thismainstream black media and also
the narrative of raping stuff.
Obviously, drewski and OdellBeckham get named to the Diddy
lawsuit.
Well, one of them at least.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Drewski on the slip and slide is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
It is crazy and it's wild because somebody broke it
down on Twitter.
They were like, think about howthis is being sold, because
everybody knows what.
Drewski is right, he's an IGskit guy.
I mean I guess you could callhim a comedian.
He's an IG skit guy.
I mean I guess you could callhim a comedian, but he's an IG
skit guy and you can almostvisualize the idea of this nigga

(01:02:36):
being told get you some, andthen he sprays the oil on her
and then he jumps in like a slipand slide.
It's being sold to make it towhere in which it could have
happened Let me not say itdidn't, but like to where, if it
didn't happen, you couldactually see it happening.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
I'm going to say it didn't happen.
I can visualize it happening,but I can't actually see it
happening.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Well, it just doesn't make any sense.
You wouldn't think that.
So Diddy's just sitting therewatching this.
Then Odell Beckham comes in andhe Now think about this.
I don't think Odell Beckhamhurts to get asked period, and
not that you would have to inorder to do something like this,
but it just really doesn't makesense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Well, so here will be my counter to something like
that of you saying he doesn'thurt for ass.
I think if you get so used tohearing yes, you don't know how
to take no the right way.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Yeah, used to hearing yes, you don't know how to take
no the right way, but Drewskiwasn't famous in 2018.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Why would he be at a ditty party?
And how is this big ass?
Come on, you've had sex beforeright.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I think so, yeah, I think I did something like that
once.
You know, I think I've had sexbefore, right, I think so.
Yeah, I think I did somethinglike that once.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I think I've had it before too.
Maybe Could you imagine.
Can you actually see yourselfjumping up and diving on a woman
and that working sexually Likeyou're not gonna?
You know how hard it is to takean I'm sorry this is a little

(01:04:27):
bit graphic but this is notsexual.
I mean it's sexual but it's notto be sexualized.
Bro, you can't take your erectpenis, leave your feet to dive
on a woman and land in thatthing.
You know how hard that is andthen land in a way that Like
Drewski's fat to not collapseher body like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
You know what I mean I guess it said it knocked the
wind out of her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
But it should have knocked more than the wind out
of her.
It should have knocked the wind, the rain, the goddamn.
You know what I'm saying.
The sun, all the elements, butnah.
The song, All the elements, butno, I I don't know.

(01:05:13):
Man.
Don't get me wrong, though.
If Odell Beckham was everguilty of being at some
freaky-ass parties, I'd believeit.
I wouldn't be shocked, Like ifOdell is like on the Diddy
Records, like in the LittleBlack Book.
I'm not shocked here, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I'm not saying he did anything illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
You understand, it seems like he'd hang out with
that crowd.
I could see Odell being likesexually fluid and it's known
amongst the people in the nasty,rich, secret sex communities
and people just know I meanthat's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
This is a guy that the week before a playoff game
flew down to Miami and Tim andtook his shirt off on a boat
with jeans and Tims.
Yeah, with Biebs.
Yeah, I was about to say JustinBieber was with them too.
Right, I blame.
Victor Cruz Another person thatDiddy certainly has a history

(01:06:20):
with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Yes, I blame Victor Cruz.
He was the main.
Yeah, carucci X, she's a lot ofpeople's actors.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Chris Brown's right.
A couple people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Carucci, this dude from the Lakers, just did a
terrible flop.
I mean it's awful Like heshould be on the move.
Jamison, yeah, are you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
watching the game.
No, because I'm on my phoneliterally.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Oh yeah, that's right , golly, we have not talked
about anything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
For what it's worth.
There's not much to talk aboutNBA-wise, really overall.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
LeBron's hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Stephen A, it's clearly that is going to fuck
them up a little bit in thestandings.
I mean, I think that they'llthey're going to still finish
top four, but if they don't getit together, because what now?
This is like the third straightgame.
They dropped, they lost to theCeltics, they lost to the Nets,
they're going to lose to theBucs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Rui's hurt, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, but he had been hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah, lebron's hurt, bronny's with the South Bay,
jackson Hayes is hurt.
They're supposed to lose thesegames.
I mean Brooklyn.
They shouldn't lose to Brooklyn, but you can understand how
they could lose a close game toBrooklyn with all the people

(01:07:55):
missing and niggas going intothe game, and that being their
Super Bowl.
Yeah, and they going into thegame like, oh, it's just
Brooklyn, but it's like hold on,we ain't got the full roster.
We got seven people playingtoday.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
They're probably out partying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Yes, it's New York.
Yeah.
Like people talk about LA andpartying.
La closes at 145, bro.
I mean, you know, bro, we'vebeen out in LA and at 137
they're saying Lance, call andturn the lights on.

(01:08:31):
And it's like whoa, whoa, whoa,you don't turn the lights on at
last call that's cause LA's awho do you know?
House party whereas New York,you can find whatever you want
at any time of the, whereas NewYork, you can find whatever you
want at any time of the day.
In New York, this is true.

(01:08:54):
You have experience with that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I've certainly partied past 3 am for sure, in
New York, for you know.
But cities like New York,london, ibiza was another one,
places like that, las Vegas, ofcourse.
How's Ibiza?
I don't think it's number one,for whatever reason, everybody

(01:09:24):
always has it as the number oneparty city in the world.
I didn't get that vibe I gotthis is where all the rich
Europeans go to hang out,because it's basically a beach,
almost like South Beach a littlebit, but like, obviously
foreign.
Well, I guess South Beach is alittle foreign too, but like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Well, I guess South Beach is a little foreign too,
but like was it one of thosecities where they party a lot
but the parties aren't as goodas people tell you they are?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Yes, okay, I put it this way, and I know I'm a Vegas
veteran, but I would ratherhang out in Las Vegas.
Well, that's different, it isdifferent.
But you know, they have casinosand stuff in Ibiza too.
So, like, would rather hang outin Las Vegas Well, that's
different, it is different, butthey have casinos and stuff in
Ibiza too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
You're not plugged.
I'm changing chargers, you'regood, but you're not plugged in
in Ibiza like that.
That too.
I mean that's true, you'reVegas, you saying Vegas isn't
fair because of how you'retreated in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I'd rather hang out in New York too, I mean.
Granted, I guess I know quite afew people up there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
It's not about the people.
So, like for Vegas, right.
Here's why I don't go to Vegaswith anybody else.
That sounds crazy, but, likeafter we went to Vegas and the
juice that you have in Vegas, itis a different experience of
Vegas for, like, normal9-to-5ers, right.

(01:10:58):
Normal 9-to-5ers don't get todo the stuff that we were doing
while we were there, Unlessthey're going to spend a grip.
But you're a gambler, so youare able to get the perks that
other people would have to spenda grip on.
Because you gamble, Right, youputting Vegas as your number one

(01:11:22):
, or wherever you put Vegas, youdon't have the perks into other
places Like you you got morejuice in Vegas than you do in
the city, don't you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
You know?
But the thing I don't really goout here.
I mean like I go out to eathere, I don't go out to hang out
.
I know people here too, but doyou know what's the name of the
place?
He owns a few of them, but Iknow Ahmed Zari.
You know what Zari is, right?
No, I don't know anything.
Zari is a pretty popular clubin the Buckhead area.

(01:12:04):
Nothing but dimes that workthere, like nothing, but
Literally everybody.
There is a 9 or a 10.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
And like I don't know the club scene, bro, I ain't
went to the club in Atlantasince college.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
It's a money pit, I mean, I don't know what else to
say about that.
Maybe that's why I don't likedoing it.
I just don't like spendingmoney on that type of stuff.
I would much rather blow $1,000and lose a bet that has
potential of making me money, asopposed to blowing $1,000 and
not getting anything out of it.
Period, I mean.
I don't have a good enough timeoff that $1,000.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Well, yeah, no, the thing is that it costs too much
money, without the possibilityof real returns, to build up
equity on the club scene,whereas in the casino scene you
can just go gamble.
You don't even have to be intothe perks, you just get the

(01:13:07):
perks because you gamble,correct?
Hey bro, you didn't tell methat I was laying on my bed
earlier.
You didn't tell me my bed wasall messed up behind me.
You got me looking all crummyand shit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Is it?
I mean, it looks like I see apillow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Yeah, it's a pillow.
It's not smooth.
Hey man, let's talk aboutStephen A, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Bro, this is really.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yeah, hold on, but this is really like we're
podding, like it's thesummertime post-NBA finals right
now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Again, because there wasn't much with basketball.
I mean, of course we gotfootball free agency, but like
you know, and the thing is,there's not that many big free
agents in football either, andour team specifically hadn't
really done anything.
I mean, I know we'll get to itlater, but I mean, they did show
up to Georgia pro day.

(01:14:05):
Finally, Did you hear whatBrick said?
I mean, I want to hear him help, we'll get to football.
We'll get to football.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
So why don't we start with Steve?
Because I've got a rant thatI've got to get off for Steve,
that's crazy boss.
But me start with Steve,because I've got a rant that
I've got to get off for Steve,that's crazy boss.
But we start with the $100million contract Actually do
this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Let's start with your rant, because I have actually
got what are set it up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
I just got to use method.
Okay, I'm going to talk, I'mgoing to break Go pee, I'm going
to break down the contract andtalk about the contract.
I'm not in rant mode right now,uh-huh, uh-huh.
All right, so we're going totalk about Stephen A's contract.
I've got the details saved inhere, so I'm sorry.

(01:15:02):
So I know this looks crazy, butas I'm going through this
thread here trying to find thispost, we just have some wild
takes in our group text andthey're really funny.
So that's why you'll see mejust randomly laughing here and

(01:15:23):
there.
Golly, that's a set.
See we me just randomlylaughing here and there.
Yeah, that's a set.
See, we're getting there, we'regetting there.
I mean, we are getting there,but we aren't there yet.
But Stephen A signed a $100million, a five-year, $100
million contract to return toESPN.

(01:15:43):
We knew he wasn't leaving, theyweren't going to get off of him
and he wasn't going to get offof them because neither of them
really work well without theother.
Let's just be real.
But in that you know, steve,steve, he negotiated some nice

(01:16:05):
terms for himself.
Because he's the man over thereat the worldwide leader.
He has to make sure that he cando what he wants to do on ESPN
Airways.
Here we go.
Stephen A Smith's $100 millionplus contract perks.

(01:16:27):
Primary focus will be firsttaking NBA.
Obviously he's going to appearon Monday night countdown in
football season, which isabsolutely terrible because it's
too much.
Stephen A Smith.
He's going to be able to grow.
It's going to have the abilityto grow his production company.
I don't know what that means,but it sounds like ESPN is going

(01:16:51):
to funnel some resources intohis program and his network.
They'll probably take a pieceof it he ain't telling you that
and he's going to have thefreedom to talk politics and
social issues.
So I'm not going to actuallyread the full details of his

(01:17:11):
contract because I don't care.
Because shout out to Stephen ASmith for getting paid.
Shout out to Stephen A Smithfor grinding his ass off to get
himself into this position.
Shout out to him for finding acorner where he could post up
and move his product Highlysuccessful.

(01:17:32):
I mean, this man signed whatused to be a max contract in the
NBA to talk about sports.
That's to be a max contract inthe.
Nba to talk about sports.
That's to be applauded.
More Steve Smith.

(01:17:56):
I watch Monday Night Countdown.
Sometimes I don't want to seeStephen A Smith talking football
.
That's why I don't listen tohis podcast, nor do I watch
first take.
And what problem with a StephenA Smith is Stephen A.
He goes in, he makes a lot ofmoney, but he also works very

(01:18:21):
hard and he works in multiplespots to where his peers should
hate him because he's drying upthe money for him.
Pat McAfee got his big contractright, but Pat's shit is
separate.
He has the Pat McAfee showthat's ran through ESPN.

(01:18:42):
Then he gets paid to do thecollege football stuff.
Troy and Joe, they get paid aheavy, they get paid a lot, but
all they do is Monday nightfootball.
You see, but Steve, he wants tobe on first take.
He's still going to do the ESPNcar wash.

(01:19:03):
He wants to be on the NBAcountdown show.
He wants to be on the NFLcountdown show.
No, stop working so hard.
You have leverage.
Work less with them and workmore elsewhere.
I take that back.
I'm telling another man what todo with his time.

(01:19:25):
Steve Smith, do whatever thehell you want.
Work less, make more, work more, make less.
I don't care what you do, steve, just do whatever the hell, you
want Paul A Pete.
Did you hear any of my rant andraving?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Yeah, I brought the phone with me to the men's room.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
You know I just don't really like that.
Stephen A works so much and I'mgoing to bring you in after
this last point, him getting tosign off to talk politics and
social issues.
Remember ABC, what ruined the.
Remember ABC what ruined thesix what ruined 6 o'clock

(01:20:07):
SportsCenter.
6 o'clock SportsCenter has notrecovered from what Jemele Hill
and Michael Smith did.
I did not mind what they did,I'm black.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
They niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
I was about to say that they blackify, they was
just out there being niggas andtalking about niggas shit from a
nigga perspective.
Well, they his and hers sportscenter.
I liked it because I liked hisand hers and, honestly, before
the media got way way tooliberal, I was a fan of jameel

(01:20:44):
hill and michael smith, likewhen jameel hill was not.
Because here's the thing,probably pete and this is gonna.
It's a long way home, but youknow sometimes it's worth taking
a long way because you'rereally trying to get that.
You sent that you up text, butyou know once you get home it's
over with.
So you take the long way home.
You remember when it was okayto be controversial and

(01:21:10):
offensive and you weren'tlabeled as a bad person.
I think that cancel culture hashurt black black, black media,
black voices more than anybodyelse.
Because you can have, like whatis that?
That Clay Travis guy who'sgoing back and forth with Jamie

(01:21:32):
Foxx?
Like Clay Travis, he saysracist shit all the time.
I'm not even going to sayborderline, I'm not calling him
a racist, he's a conservative.
But listening to his stuff I'mlike, bro, that nigga that's
racist, but it's okay.
He's not mainstream, but it'sokay.
But like, cancel culture hastoo many black people clinging

(01:21:58):
to the liberal agenda, to whereyou start adopting causes and
speaking in a way that's noteven reflective of who you truly
are.
You were just trying to makesure you stay in your position
and then you, you lose it.
Like some of the shit Jamelhe'll be saying now, like uh,
that ain't Jamel.
Like, jamel was the chick whowas actually for me.

(01:22:20):
I enjoyed listening to herspeak so much it almost made her
attractive Because I don'tthink she's ugly, but I'm not
attracted to her.
No, she's not ugly, yeah, butI'm not attracted to Jemele Hill
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
It's very hard to put ugly people on TV period so,
like you typically have to, youcan't be.
You can't be unattractive.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Unless you're a former player and you're calling
WNBA games.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Well, and then you sound like, and there goes the
three.
No, becky Hammond calls timeout.
That's how they used to have it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Prime Jameel Hill.
I was like you know what callstime out.
That's how they used to have it.
Prime Jameel Hill, I was likeyou know what, If I went on a
date with her or if I was justout with her having drinks, just
talking shit, I could see howthis could turn into something,
just because she seems so cooland I actually like her take on
sports and society.
But they got too farradicalized and I don't like it.

(01:23:24):
But lastly, Stephen A is goingto use his platform on ESPN to
propel his run for thepresidency.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
So you believe he's really going to do it?
Yeah, I do.
That's why he's gettingfamiliar with people on the View
.
Yeah, because ESPN's giving himmore money really to kind of
jumpstart.
Because, think about it, weain't never heard of nobody.
They didn't even really.
I mean they did, I guess, butthey didn't even really announce

(01:23:58):
Troy Aikman and Joe Buck'scontract.
They don't ever fuckingannounce that shit.
That shit got announced.
Well, yeah, I know it wasprobably a record.
I don't think anyone's gotten$100 million in media, unless
you're Oprah.
We never even knew, honestly,she's a billionaire.
Don't nobody ever remember whatthe fuck ABC was paying Oprah?

(01:24:20):
They didn't announce that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Stephen A wanted it out because Stephen A suffers
from main character syndrome.
Like Stephen A does notunderstand, he does not
understand the assignment rightNow.
He's doing well at what he does.
I don't want y'all to get thismisconstrued.
He's good at being a talkinghead great talking head, does?

(01:24:43):
I don't want y'all to get thismisconstrued.
He's good at being a talkinghead great talking head.
I don't want to hear him, but Ithink he's a great talking head
.
But Stephen A Smith oh shit,sorry, this dope movie comes out
next week.
Stephen A Smith thinks peoplecome to see him in a vacuum.

(01:25:06):
No, no, no, stephen, steve, asI call you, people come to hear
you talk about the maincharacters.
Talk about the main characters.
People would still watch LeBron, kevin Durant, kyrie Irving,

(01:25:32):
stephen Curry, jalen Brunson,carl Anthony Pounds, a certified
baller.
They'll come see them ifStephen A doesn't exist.
But if these athletes don'texist, who the fuck put Batum in

(01:25:56):
?
Why the fuck Batum in right now, steve?
Why the fuck are you talking?
The game is on nigga.
Why do you get league?
Why do you walk into the arenalike it's league fits?
Why are you walking in theguild arena?
He's your queen, tobey.
You know what I'm saying Withall that and I know that's funny

(01:26:18):
, but he doing the walk becauseyou know he wanted that entrance
.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Yeah, they set it up.
You know they set it up like itwas a Jennifer Hudson show.
You know how they do thislittle soul training line shit
for everybody that's on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
No, I don't know what they do on that show.
I don't watch daytime.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
I don't either.
But point is, they do it, theydo it and that's the basis of
the Common Game song.
But go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
I don't like it and you know what?
Here I am at my rant, eventhough I've been talking this
entire time.
Stephen A LeBron, get into it.
Stephen A was critical ofLeBron, the father, and Bronny,
the basketball player, and I'mokay with people criticizing

(01:27:10):
whether or not Bronny shouldhave came out early.
I'm okay with peoplecriticizing LeBron obviously
using nepotism to get his son inthe league.
I'm okay with it being withpeople criticizing it.
Criticize the act, don'tcriticize the actor, don't say

(01:27:36):
LeBron as a father.
As a father, you don't tell mehow to raise my child and if you
see that I'm doing, if you careabout me, if you truly care
about me which I don't thinkStephen Smith truly cares about
LeBron James, you know how toget in touch with me, just like

(01:27:57):
Stephen A said, lebron knows howto get in touch with him.
Steve, you know how to get intouch with him.
Steve, you know how to get intouch with me.
If you want to have aman-to-man conversation and just
say, hey, from the mediaperspective, here's what I hear,
here's what we do, here's howthis is going to play out, and
you have that behind-the-scenesconversation with him,
man-to-man, like hey, do yourealize what you're setting your

(01:28:20):
son up for?
But also what you're settingyourself up for, because you're
going to be hearing this fromsome people that you love and
respect as a father and how thatmay make you feel that's
different.
But don't get on the fuckingairwaves to try to get your $100
million contract and tell me,as a father, what to do with my

(01:28:42):
child when, in the grand schemeof things, what LeBron is doing
is not jeopardizing Bronny'shealth and safety.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Somebody actually broke this down really well, and
I meant to send it to you.
I don't think I did.
I saw a video, though, butsomebody basically broke down
the whole Bronny thing anywaysjust him in the NBA period being
drafted what?
55th or 56th, whatever it was,and it was the craziest
breakdown ever.
They said let's look at thethree people drafted before him

(01:29:17):
and then the three people thatwere drafted after him.
They compared their NBA stats.
They said, said, looks prettysimilar to me.
Then they said, all right, nowlet's look at their G League
stats.
Bronny's kicking their ass interms of statistics in the G
League.
Then they said, all right,let's look at the pay, because
everybody was like, oh, how doyou get a fully guaranteed?
That was Gilbert.

(01:29:39):
Okay, I listened to it on theshow in real time, not the clip,
okay obviously he broke downthat and it's like, oh okay,
looks pretty similar, looks likethey all got the same deal.
Let's look at the year beforethat similar guys in that same
position looks like leaguestandard to me, and then he

(01:30:03):
pulled up Bronny's per 36.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
And it was like 14, 5 , and 5 or some shit like that,
like rookie of the year, right.
But, Bronny is on a contendingteam.
As the 55th pick, he's notcontributing in the NBA.
If Zachary Richache, the numberone overall pick, was drafted

(01:30:35):
by the Lakers, people would dumbpeople would talk about him as
a bust because he would not havethe opportunities that the
other rookies have.
He wouldn't put up the numbers,he may not get the minutes,

(01:30:58):
he's not getting the shots andhe's playing winning basketball.
Not go get better basketball.
Hey, go out there and makemistakes.
No, no, no, no Corner.
You better make the cornerthree, pump, fake, two, dribble,
pull up.
You don't get three shots.

(01:31:21):
You don't get three shots in arow.
If Bron and AD or Bron and Lucaain't touch the ball, I don't
care if you pull it off the rimyourself, if you ain't getting a
layup, if you ain't going coastto coast and finishing, throw
that bitch out.
Give it to that 40-year-old,give it to the nigga who like
beer and hookah.
Pass me the hookah.

(01:31:42):
So you can't even properlycontextualize like you have to
properly contextualize thisstuff to understand.
A 55th pick in no year, in nodraft, is contributing to a team
that's trying to win achampionship In the lake of
trying to win a championshipchampionship in the Lakewood of
Toronto with a championship.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
It was going to be tough for him to get minutes,
just anyway, I mean it didn'treally matter, I mean it was.
And then people forget too thatBrian did have a heart
condition.
I mean, this man passed out onthe court and, yeah, he was
almost DeMar Hamill.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Exactly.
And if his goal was to get intothe NBA and because of the
injury, his less than stellarUSC season is excused, because

(01:32:45):
he wasn't cleared medically formost of the season, he came in
late so he wasn't in game shape.
All of that stuff Didn't havehis rhythm and flow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
USC also, just wasn't a good team.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
No, but there's a small little sliver to get him
in the NBA off of something, offof his physical traits or off
of dad still being a high-end,top-ten player in the NBA.
Off of something, off of hisphysical traits or off of dad
still being a high-end, top 10player in the league.
I'm helping my son accomplishhis goal and maybe Bronny didn't
want to play with me as his dadright?

(01:33:17):
Maybe he wanted to go elsewhere, but I maybe couldn't leverage
that in the same way so that heis set up to be in the league
longer, because you know, ourparents did stuff for us that we
didn't like.
In the moment that we look backon and say Mom and Dad had it
right, that's the thing.

(01:33:39):
Or maybe, as a father whowasn't there, he'd been in the
league longer than Bronny hadbeen living, I'm trying to make
up for lost time with my son.
If he's on the team, we getthose road trips, we get those
practices.
I get to get some of this timeback Because you know, zuri,

(01:33:59):
she's going to get the best ofit because she's still young.
He's going to be retired inthree years.
She's going to get the best ofit because she's still young.
He's going to be retired inthree years.
He's going to be there for herhigh school Bryce, you know what
I'm saying.
He's probably going to play inthe G League for the South Bay
Lakers for like eight years.
He may bounce around overseas,but Bron's going to be retired
to get some of that time withBryce back.

(01:34:20):
Well, bronny going to be in theleague, bronny going to be gone,
you know what I'm saying.
He wants to get that time withhis first born and I can't knock
it.
I can't knock it because he's agood enough player.
Bronny is a good enough playerto be where he's at, to be

(01:34:43):
drafted.
Where he was at, they may havereached, given what they knew at
that moment, but just becauseyou reach doesn't mean you're
wrong.
And the Lakers weren't wrongfor drafting Bronny James.
He is a second-round 55th pickplayer.
And lastly, and I'll let you go, gilbert made a great point.

(01:35:05):
He said okay, they don't drafthim, they draft somebody else.
55th.
They find Bronny as a freeagent.
Who's going to get that lastroster slot, 55th picker Bronny,
bronny, bronny.
So you might as well draft him,because that nigga ain't making

(01:35:26):
the team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Yeah, no, exactly, and I just for me.
It's not like Bronny wasn't aMcDonald's All-American, and not
that that always translates tooh's gonna be drafted, because
it doesn't.
There are plenty of dudes thathave been mcdonald's all
americans, like guys likeseventh wood.
You remember these?

(01:35:50):
Like these dudes that likefucking like they had these hoop
mixtapes.
You know hoop mixtape legendsum josh selby?
Yeah, like there was plenty ofdudes there everybody was like
oh man, this nigga, he's leagueand Selby made the league, but
he didn't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
He was in and out like them, nasty burgers well,
hold on now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
We're not going to give a shot in and out now.
If you think the fries arenasty, that's one thing I can
give it to you.
Those burgers are not nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
I take that back.
They're not nasty, they'reoverhyped and overrated.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
I'll accept that.
I don't think that they'reoverhyped.
I think that outside of andFive Guys isn't a fast food
restaurant in my opinion.
But if you want to throw themin.
Yeah, theirs are better.
That's really it.
I think that that is the best.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Well at culver's culver's has good burgers I've
never had, oh my god oh, it'staking shake too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Those are, those are like the other ones, but hey bro
, we hey work.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Bought a steak and shake yesterday for lunch it's
damn good burger.
But I'm telling you like that'sthe one thing I love about,
when we have work stuff at themain office, they cater lunch
get everybody singles doublewith cheese and we had extras

(01:37:19):
and fries and like she calls itin and when she comes back in
the door with the food and wehad extras and fries and like
she calls it in and when shecomes back in the door with the
food, the meeting stops forlunch.
So the fries are still good.
It's not like lunch is at 12o'clock and she comes in at 1130
with the food and we're sittingthere waiting.
It's like lunch is here and ifyou're not the person who is

(01:37:45):
updating the boss, you can goeat yeah, and then, once that
last person is done, it's timeto go eat yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
That's what I think Damn good burger.
What was your point?
You said?
Oh yeah, you said guys are inand out of the league like the
nasty burgers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Hey, you cook.
I'm going to have to do whatyou just did Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
But all in all, he's more than deserving of his
position.
Maybe he wasn't one of the 60best players, but again, he
still is LeBron's son and nobodyshould have an issue with that.
And again, like I said, hisnumbers are reflective of good
basketball.
He's playing good basketball,at least in the G League he is,

(01:38:34):
and that's okay.
That's okay, but that's why aguy like Steve you know it's his
job to talk about this type ofstuff, but again, he also didn't
have to talk about him from thefather's standpoint, and I
think that that's really prettymuch where everybody's issue
kind of came in with this.

(01:38:58):
Yeah, it's just one of thosethings just it's, it's just one
of those things.
And so yeah, ronnie, he's a,he's a, he's he's.
He's a product of his dad andthere is nepotism that comes
with it.
But Steve's out a lot andthat's okay.

(01:39:19):
That's it got blown out ofproportion and shouldn't have
been that way to begin with.
But again, steve kind ofinvites the smoke and the smoke
came to him and now he uses itas his own carwash for for
everywhere that he goes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Yeah, let's, let's talk about that sucker and shit
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
So I can't believe this motherfucker was on Hannity
talking about this.
No, but like but think aboutright.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
So, steve, I can't believe this motherfucker was on
Hannity talking about this.
Think about how he introducedthis right.
We see the back and forth right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
I loved it Because LeBron it didn't really look
like back and forth, it lookedlike LeBron was just telling him
what it was and then he said Iunderstand.
And then he's like no, fuckthat.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
It was a one-way conversation, yeah, and based,
understand.
And then he's like no, fuckthat, it's a one-way
conversation, yeah, and based onwhat braun has said, what steve
, what steve said.
Braun said what we've heardsteve say about this whole
situation.
We go, steve, you're missingthe boat here.
Braun is just saying like, hey,nigga, leave my kid out of this

(01:40:21):
.
Like, talk about the basketballplayer, don't talk about my son
, talk about LeBron James Jr thebasketball player, don't talk
about Bronny, talk about LeBronJames the basketball player,
don't talk about LeBron the dad.
And for the people who are like, well, he put his son out there
to be publicly ridiculed yes,he did.

(01:40:44):
He did that.
Swaggy P told a story.
He said his daddy checkedStephen A one day.
You know why, stephen.
A didn't talk about it TellingSwaggy P, swaggy P.
And that's LeBron's point.
You're only doing this shitbecause it gets attention.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
The bandwidth.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
I don't grab my ankles for you, steve, I don't
grab my ankles, don't fuck withme.
Ain't that what Jerry told BobKraft?
Yeah, don't fuck with me.
That's all LeBron said.
Hey bro, I don't grab my anklesfor you, so stop.
And then for Steve to come outfor one, he drops the tweet last
Friday morning right.

(01:41:30):
Then he gets so narrative inhis solemn voice.
Because Braun took his soul.
I wasn't even going to speak onthis, but you know my agent,
executives from the network,people sending this to my inbox,
and you know it went viral.
So I had to speak on it.
You didn't have to do shit.

(01:41:51):
You picked the topics for first.
Take right, if you didn't wantto speak on it, you didn't have
to speak on it.
You could have let this die.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Joy Taylor didn't have to address anything on
speak.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
No, joy Taylor didn't have to address anything on
speak.
No, she just came back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
She still ain't talked about that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
No, she came out more peanut butter than she's ever
been and them cans is fuckingfull, you know, but Steve, he
has to address it.
Then he has to address it againon his podcast.
I don't know what he and Skiptalked about, but guess what?
You sat with Skip Bayless 72hours after your spat with

(01:42:32):
LeBron.
Then you go on Gil's Arena andyou talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
And then you're on Hannity and you talk about it.
How the fuck does he get onHannity?
I'm just trying to and I get it.
Maybe that feels in on Hannity.
I'm just trying to and I get itmaybe that fuels the political
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
He's trying to run for president and he's a black
man who will say negative thingsabout black people and the
Democrat Party.
So Fox eats that up, paul AP.
I promise you, I promise you,if we, if this show picked up
enough steam, we could go on FoxNews and speak, simply because

(01:43:06):
we do not subscribe to theliberal, democrat, liberal,
black agenda.
Which is why, when I talk toyou about what Atlanta do, what
we wanted to embody, andobviously OutKast is the obvious
one, but I said, well, how dowe actually make to embody?
And obviously OutKast is theobvious one.
But I said, well, how do weactually make that work?

(01:43:28):
Right?
And I go well, we're actuallyOutKast because we are
Atlanta-based, but we don'tsubscribe to Black Atlanta
culture.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
You know what's crazy though it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
I want you to.
I just want to pitch.
We don't subscribe to regularAtlanta culture.
You know, like we're not justspending all this money on women
.
We're not wearing all thedesigner, fancy, flashy Nike
tech fit in the club.
We don't go to the club.
We don't go to the strip club.
We're not bleeding liberals.
We're Falcons fans, but wedon't think Michael Vick was

(01:44:12):
better than Matt Ryan.
We're Georgia fans.
We're Braves fans.
We want the Hawks to win.
We want the Hawks to win, butwe are the black face to Georgia

(01:44:33):
culture, not Atlanta culture.
But because we're Atlanta-based, we are truly outcasts in the
city.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
I like how you just sit back like he's, like yeah,
you like that, right, you likethat.
I'm learning from Steve he's a$100 million man.
No, it's a perfect way to lookat it.
And you know what's evencrazier?
Because you know Big Boy's notreally from Atlanta, right, but
you're from carsville.
Yeah, and although I'mtechnically not from atlanta,

(01:45:08):
atlanta, I was born in decatur.
I'm pretty sure that 3000 wasborn in decatur.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
I might be wrong but I'm almost certain that that's
where he's from bro, you'velived in atlanta pretty much
since 2011.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
But you know for the Atlanta folks.
Anytime anyone talks to me andthey're like did you go to APS?
I'm like no, my high school'saddress is Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Georgia, though, where I graduated, that is their
address and you've lived inAtlanta proper for half of your
life.
Fuck off.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Yeah, and I came to the city a lot too as a child.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Well, yeah, and the culture is damn near the same,
it's all the same.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
All that shit, anything in this metro and even
extend 30 minutes outside of themetro, it's all the same.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Right, we weren't culturally different when we met
each other in 2011.
Right, we listened to the samemusic.
We were pretty much attractedto the same type of women.
We talked about the same shit.
You just grew up in StoneMountain, I grew up in

(01:46:21):
Cartersville, right?
But let me get back to Steven.
I feel like I'm talking toomuch today.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Go on.
Steve brings a lot of talkingpoints to the table.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Oh yeah, here goes something.
I'm glad we're not monetized soI can play as much of it as I
want.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
here we go some folks have been attacking me, not
over this, but using this as anexcuse to accuse me of hating on
the brothers.
I'm sick of that shit.
I'm not backing up from thatanymore.
I'm not taking it from peopleanymore.
I'm not just a black man, I'm abrother.
I'm not going to take this shitfrom people anymore.

(01:47:08):
I'm going on Gilbert Arenas'podcast tomorrow Gil's Arena
With Rashawn McCants, withKenyon Martin Swaggy P.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Nick Young and the crew.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
I can't wait.
I can't wait for thatconversation.
I'm not taking this shit nomore from people.
I'm done with this, becauseit's incidents like this that
people try to piggyback off ofand they try to use it as an
excuse to talk about me, oh sopeople are using something that

(01:47:42):
happened to you as an excuse totalk about you, where your
career is built off, of talkingabout things that other people
do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Steve, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
Steve's the only one talking about it, though that's
the thing.
He's the one that's talkingabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
I mean because the big like Bill Simmons he did a
quick little blah-blah about iton his Sunday podcast, or maybe
his, yeah, on his Sunday podcast.
Right, nick Wright and Bomanitalked about it a little bit,
but it was the main.
Like the mainstream peopletalked about it on a lower key
level.

(01:48:20):
Well, they might have been goingthrough highlights of the game
and then threw it in because ithappened during the game right
cowherd talked about it for asecond on his podcast.
He didn't talk about it on theon the hearth, on the fs1.
Yeah, your media compadres aregiving you the respect, as a
media member, of not talkingabout it.

(01:48:43):
But Steve, steve, you don't getto sit on TV and talk crazy and
shit not happen.
If Steve ran into us in Atlanta, ran into me in Atlanta and he
checked me about this podcast,what can I say?

(01:49:04):
I can't say he's out of pocket.
I'm calling this nigga by aform of his name that he doesn't
go by.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
It's disrespectful.
You don't want to call him SAdo you Hell?
No?

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
Isn't that what Molly calls him.
I'm not calling nobody SA bro,like that's sexual assault man.
I can't, I can't put, isn'tthat?
what she calls him yeah, but Iagree, though, with Steve.
I don't like how he gets shiton for shitting on black men

(01:49:43):
when he talks sports and he hasto talk about black people and I
, you know we don't fuck withthat more of why we are outcast.
Right, we'll see.
We don't really fuck with howpeople say you can't criticize
black people.
Yes, I can, I criticizeeverybody, I discuss everybody

(01:50:05):
and I speak about it in a waythat I believe it to be true
Black, white, indifferent gay,straight, indifferent, muslim,
jew.
Well, I don't really talk aboutthem too, because that'll get
you out of here.
Well if you don't pick the rightside.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Well, you can get fucked up picking whatever side.
It doesn't matter which sideyou take.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
I mean, one gets you canceled, one gets you blown up.
So you know, I just wouldn'ttouch you either.
You choose one.
He only want to respond to thisshit.
I'm saying I get it, no.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
I don't have much to say about it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Hey, you know something crazy In construction,
if you are doing state jobs, ifyou get government funding for
a job, you cannot.
They stipulate in the contractthat you cannot work with
companies who are boycottingIsrael.
So if one of your subcontractwho are boycotting Israel, so if
, like, one of yoursubcontractors is boycotting

(01:51:05):
Israel, you can't use them, it'spower.
Yeah.
But I'm saying all of that tosay I don't think Stephen A
Smith Goes out of his way tocriticize Black men, because he
is just Critic, criticizing thepeople that he discusses.

(01:51:27):
But I understand why people getto that conclusion.
But the more and more youlisten to Stephen A, you
understand that he grabs hisankles for the dollars.
So what do you expect him to do?
That's generated.
Yeah, see, I can't play no moreof that, because then that

(01:51:48):
would be me listening to SteveSmith of ESPN and I don't do
that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
He's the number one guy in the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
No, he's not.
He's the highest paid, he's notnumber one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Would you rather be considered underpaid or
overrated?

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I'd rather be Bill Simmons.
I mean, think about it.
Bill Simmons is impactingsports culture way more than
Stephen A Smith.
For sure, he's not asmainstream recognized because

(01:52:33):
he's not on ESPN anymore, but hebuilt golly.
What's the city he?
Did 30 for 30?
, not 30 for 30.
But he did, that's like him.
His side label at ESPNGrantland, grantland.
He built Grantland.

(01:52:53):
He pretty much took that samething and built the Ringer just
out of his own pockets.
He sold that.
He just made the Celtics docthis out.
He did the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Andre, he made the Vince McMahon one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Vince McMahon.
He did the Andre the Giant doc.
He's impacting sports cultureand, while also participating in
the 24-hour news cycle andclickbait, he is making
long-lasting products that livein sports forever.
But I would definitely ratherbe overrated than underpaid.

(01:53:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,no, no, no, overpay me please.
But I think that's enough aboutSteve.
We don't really need to talkbasketball.
Let's get to NFL free agency.
We've been here for two.
I'm not going to lie to you.
This may not be one of thebetter audio experiences that

(01:53:55):
we've given the listeners, butit's been way more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
Yeah Well, we should have all this fixed soon where
we can get it back kind of tothat top-tier standard that
we're used to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
The NBA hasn't given us enough and we're just
shooting the shit today.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Yeah, again, basketball season's getting
ready to end.
We got March Madness.
It's not too much to talk aboutthere.
Really, your flag got hurttoday.
Yeah, and he's either comingout or he isn't.
I mean, that's what nobodyreally cares.
If Duke wins, you care if he'sserious about coming out or not.

(01:54:35):
He's coming out Like was hereally serious about staying?
Because Vegas has the odds towhere there's a better chance
that he plays in Duke than hedoes for the Hornets.
He's going to the league.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
I'm not saying he's not.
The Hornets aren't gettingnumber one.
There's a reason why De'AaronFox just had season ending
surgery.
There's a reason why PaulGeorge is evaluating the options
to get himself fixed and he'sgoing to miss the rest of the
season.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Tyrese Maxey.
He'll end up not coming backeither.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
No, there's a reason why the Jazz just got fined for
not playing Larry Marketing.
Yeah.
Danny's told the owner hey,don't even worry about that,
honey, I got it.
We got a larger fish to fry outhere.
Do the Jazz have like?
Are they the worst team withactual good players?

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
It's crazy when you actually look up and down the
roster, it's a bunch of guysthat put up stats and so, like,
go ahead.
Like even for that time, likeColin had missed like eight
games or something like in a rowtoo, which falls in line with
what they've been doing, whichit's clear, because I don't
think I mean let me not say hewasn't hurt, he might have been

(01:55:58):
but like if these weremeaningful games, those guys
would be playing and so they'rejust not meaningful, not
meaningful for the jazz to win,and so, yeah, they've gotten way
, like, but even if you look ata team like the wizards, no, no,

(01:56:18):
no, no no, no, let's stay withthe jazz though.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Isaiah Collier quietly having a great rookie
year yeah, collin can average 20if he gets enough minutes.
Jordan Clarkson arguably one ofthe best microwaves in the
league.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
John Collins John Collins having a
Renaissance-type season too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
I had no idea, but John Collins started in the
Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
He's averaging like 18 and 9.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
Larry Markkinen is an all-star, yeah.
But they suck.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Yeah, they're very bad.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Walker Kessler, a good big man that you would want
to have on a good team.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
He could be the next Zubac.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
Oh, speaking of which Zubac or Rudy Gobert?

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Today I'd probably take Zubac.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
If they made the same amount of money.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Zubac or Rudy If they made the same amount of money,
zubac or Rudy?
I mean, I would never payeither of them that money, but I
think it depends on theconstruction of your team.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
If you are building a team and you're not building
around your center, would youhave to choose your center first
?

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Probably Rudy, just because he's a stronger defender
.
Give me Zubac, we're notplaying five on four on offense,
every position.
It's so funny, though, becauseit would actually work out
better low-key if they switchedpositions.
I mean switched teams,basically.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
I mean it would be funny if they traded Rudolph
instead of Cat.
But nobody would trade forRudolph.
But, I'm just saying, even withthat Clippers team.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
that would be a really strong defensive team if
Rudy Gobert was the center, Ifyou put Zubac on the
Timberwolves, it would flow somuch better offensively.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
Yeah, because Zubac can play offense.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
Yeah, I think he's averaging probably 16 and 10.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
Bro he had a crazy game last night.
Let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
Yeah, he's on my fantasy team.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Is he?
Yep, I almost asked you aquestion then I was like, no, I
would have to pause that, so I'mnot going to ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
I've got the second-best team.
This is actually the last weekof the regular season for
fantasy basketball.
I'm about to finish 16-4.
There's a guy in our leaguethat's 18-1 currently, which is
crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Zubek had 26-14 last night.
I don't think Rudolph can dothat.
I don't think he's capable ofscoring 26 points.
Probably not.
I wonder what his career highis?
Rudy Gobert he scored 35 in2017 35.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Yeah, so that would have been with Donovan Mitchell.
Yeah, and yeah, so that wouldhave been with Donovan Mitchell.
Yeah, and I would imagine hehad at least 10 dunks.
That game probably made morefree throws than normal 38 and
15.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
He was 13 of 15 from the field all dunks okay 9 for
12 from the free throw line yepexactly there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
I said for 12 from the free throw line.
Yep, exactly there you go.
I said a better than usual freethrow game too.
9 for 12.
But he's probably a 50% guy.
He's like up there with ShaqLike he's a bad free throw
shooter.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
Imagine if Rudy Gobert, like, was fat and
unathletic and couldn't playlike professional basketball.
Like what would his lot in lifebe?
Could be like a security guard,Do you ever wonder?

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
because you don't see many seven-footers but what do
seven-footers do who can't playbasketball?
It's a good question.
They don't look like they arehunched over uh cubicles or
anything like.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
yeah, you can't get a day job not in warehouses oh no
hell, no, his career free throwpercentage is 64.
Yeah, 75, that's good, yo,steven.
They said I'm a brother yeah,75.
That's a good one, yo, stephenA said I'm a brother.
I don't like the word brotherto describe black men because

(02:01:16):
that's saying nigga, but whitepeople can see it.
Oh, yeah, I know this guy.
Yeah, oh yeah, james.
Yeah, he's a cool brother.
Yeah, yeah, I know this guy.
Yeah, oh yeah, james.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a coolbrother.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Yeah Right, he's the brother down the hall.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
What's the most disrespectful thing a white
person could call you?
That's not the N-word Boy.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Again, we kind of had this conversation before Boy is
a little bit more derogatorythan being called a nigga,
because it's like a two-waydisrespect with that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Because now you're questioning my manhood.

Speaker 2 (02:01:56):
Well, you're belittling me and you're also
calling me a nigga at the sametime.

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
I was at the grocery store not too long ago and this
older white lady said to mesomething about me being a good
boy, but it was like a positiveconversation.
Did not know how to respond toit.
I'm like I think I should bebothered by this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
I mean, what did she say?

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
I was buying some frozen fruit and she said
something to me about mysmoothie.
I'm like, yeah, just trying tobe healthy.
She's like, oh, you're such agood boy.
I eat eggs and bacon everymorning.
But she was obviously 25 to 30years older than me, right?

(02:02:47):
Not no, no, she was probably inher 60s, so like I was young
enough to be her son yeah, it'snot meant that way it didn't
seem derogatory.
But just somebody white callingme a boy at 33, just you just

(02:03:09):
don't know.
I live in Cartersville.
Yeah, I wasn't offended.
I thought it was all in goodfaith and good fun Because,
unlike a lot of you fucking RyanClark-ass niggas I don't take
everything to be racist.
Like one of my closest whitefriends from like elementary,

(02:03:32):
like from middle school, throughhigh school and main friends
since she'll tell me some shitand I'm like golly, I'm so happy
you don't say this shit outloud in public because you sound
like a racist fuck.
But you're not.
You're just white and don'thave black people in your

(02:03:52):
day-to-day life who would checkyou on that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
I hate to say ignorant You're ignorant too.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
It's just pure ignorance, like it's the
blissful ignorance.
No, that reminded me get usgoing on free agency.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
You know, you can do this one well I guess, I guess,
Well, I guess you know that's agood place to start right
Falcons first.
Yes, sir, well, we cut BradyJarrett.

(02:04:36):
That's probably the first bigpiece of news that came out from
Falcons camp.
Well, I guess we extended JakeMatthews first.
So we're like, okay, cat typemove and you guys decided that
you did want to keep him.
He's going to be clearly be oneof these players that's going
to be a Falcon for life.
He'll be a ring of honor guy.
Even though I think JakeMatthews is maybe made the pro

(02:04:58):
bowl once, maybe he'll be a ringof honor guy.
He's just a stalwart of theorganization.
Yeah, he's the blind side,literally right, and so that's
your first move.
Then you cut Grady Jarrett,which you know made sense.
I think everybody on thesurface didn't want Grady to go,

(02:05:19):
but it made a lot of sense.
And Grady, well, he was a capcasualty that you, ultimately,
you weren't going to be able torestructure with him because to
you it wasn't worth it.
He was expendable, so makessense.
He immediately signs with theBears.
Of course you lose Drew Dahlmanto the Bears as well, which I

(02:05:39):
understand.
You don't want to pay a cent ofthat kind of money either.
That makes sense.
And then you sit and you waitand you ask yourself so what are
we going to do to address theseissues Like the one that we've
had going on for 20 years?

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
it feels like Our defense got worse, even if it
was right to cut greedy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Sure, sure.
But then you pick up LeonardFloyd, who is a consistently
good pass rusher not great butgood who has a history with Rob,
obviously with their time in LA.
So the familiarity gets there.
He's a Georgia Bulldog, formerdog, so everybody can get behind

(02:06:27):
that aspect of it.
It does address certainly oneside of your pass rush, but it
wasn't a splashy pick and it'sonly a one-year deal.
And so you do that.
You re-up Mike Hughes.
So now we know for a fact thathe's going to be CB2.
Yep, which I think that heplayed solid, honestly, for the

(02:06:49):
most part of the year.
I don't think he was bad, butyou know.
And now you sit here and youask yourself are there going to
be any other splash moves thatthe Falcons specifically do?
And I just don't really see it.
Are there going to be any otherslash moves that the Falcons
specifically do?
And I just don't really see it.
And so it'd be nice to look upand honestly see that it's a

(02:07:12):
little past his prime, obviously.
But if one year is $7 millionfor Von Miller, I'd like to see
that.
I don't see why not.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
I was just telling my partner, adrian, that earlier
today I'm like let's just giveVon Miller some money.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Yeah, pair them back up with Rock.
I mean, that was your pass rush, obviously not including Aaron
Donald in the middle, but that'spretty much your pass rush for
the Super Bowl when you won.
They would have to be betterthan anything that we had,
because I think our leading setI, arnold Evocati, led the team
and I think he might have hadsix last year and so and he got

(02:07:52):
to help probably four of them inlike the last four weeks, so
actually none in the last week,because we didn't hit Bryce
Young in the last week, butthree of the last four weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Our last double-digit sack guy is not in the NFL
anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
Yeah, and he still isn't 35 yet either, which is
mind-blowing.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
Honestly, he might not be 33 yet.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
And he's been out of the league for three years maybe
four, Because he didn't playwith the Titans.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
No, he didn't, yeah, no, he's not even 30.
He's 32, man, yeah, and look,he last played with the
Arlington Renegades in 2024.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Yeah, and look, and that gets back to us addressing
that issue.
And now you probably got asafety and at first I was
thinking, well, maybe they'regoing to re-up Judon, right,
Maybe Judon comes back and himhaving Floyd, maybe that helps
him his production.

(02:09:09):
Because obviously when we madethe move, we loved it.
We loved the Simmons move too.
They were both moves thateverybody agreed on.
They just didn't work outreally and you can't be mad if
it doesn't work out when it wasthe right move.

(02:09:29):
Now you gave up a three to gethim and that kind of stings a
little bit right now, especiallyconsidering you lost a five
because of your quarterback,that you've got to figure out
what you're going to do with him, your backup quarterback, if
he's going to just be yourbackup or somebody's going to

(02:09:49):
step up to the plate.
Because what free agencyofficially opened today Like it?

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
was officially opened today, right.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
I don't know how that shit works.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
Like the new league year.
Honestly, I didn't know thedate, because I know once the
tampering period starts to meit's open, right, but the
official league period starts tome it's open Right, but the
official league day opening, ofcourse Kirk Cousins is due like
a bonus or something.
Oh yeah, he's going to get thatbonus, thank God, yeah.
Hey, fuck you, kirk, we're notcutting you.
If we got to pay you, sorry,I'm going to let you get back,

(02:10:19):
kirk Cousins, you don't knowwhere you're going until camp
Unless.
Kirk Cousins, you don't knowwhere you're going until camp
Unless somebody gives ussomething we like at the draft.
We're not cutting you.
We're going to carry yourexpense and carry your ass
through the season as a backupbecause, guess what, we're
fucking paying you.
Simple as that.

(02:10:42):
Yeah, the cost of thequarterback room doesn't change
if we leave kirk, if we get ridof kirk.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
But if we get rid of kirk, our quarterback room takes
a step back, and both talentand experience right, it's not
our fault that you started toplay poorly, and whether that's
Roz decision, your decision orRich's decision on whether or

(02:11:09):
not you sat out a couple gamesif you were hurt, because nobody
wanted to necessarily see Penixcome in and either a play
better than you, and theneverybody say, well, let's just
keep Penix in, or b Penix getstarted too early.
And then everybody say, well,let's just keep Penix in, or B
Penix gets started too early,and then he doesn't look good.
And then it's like, oh my God,we might not have a quarterback,

(02:11:29):
but it's what the overreactionwould be.
You, you put yourself in thisposition and now you've got to
deal with it when you, when youdeal with it, except for that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
When you take the money, sometimes you have to do
things you don't want to dobecause of the money, and you
know that's why you get theconspiracy theories about the
Illuminati and people sellingtheir souls.
I mean it's being real, becausewith the money comes selling
their souls.
I mean it's being real, yeah,because with the money comes

(02:12:08):
responsibilities.
We talked about it with Future,just a little bit right.
He skimps on that young ladythat he was talking about.
But what if he wasn't skimping?
What if he was giving skimping?
What if he was giving her 350 ayear?
She can't go get that 30 fromfrom the other nigga, no more.

(02:12:36):
She can't go to Dubai and getshitted on her chest and shit,
no more.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, nah, nah, nah, see toDubai and get shitted on her
chest and shit no more.
You know what?
I'm saying yeah.
No, no, no See, I don't sign youto a max deal.
Even if we ain't rocking, isthe money still coming in and

(02:13:00):
it's not child support.
You got to listen if you stillwant it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:07):
Yeah, and you're under contract with us and this
is the position that we want youto play.
We're not disrespecting youlike the Giants did Daniel Jones
and making him practice squadsafety.
We're not trying to humiliateyou.
We want you to do your job andthis is your new job.

(02:13:28):
Here's a different job goinginto last year.
This year, this is the job thatwe feel like we want you to do.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
Your job is to be a quarterback on the Atlanta
Falcons and, based upon whereyou fall on the depth chart will
determine what yourresponsibilities are.
But we signed you to be thequarterback of the Atlanta
Falcons and we're paying you tobe the quarterback of the
Atlanta Falcons and now you'reno longer the number one
quarterback, so your jobresponsibilities are going to

(02:13:59):
change.
But see, here's the beautifulthing about this contract we
didn't sign you to be thestarter, we just signed you to
go to the quarterback room.
So whether you're the starteror whether you're on the
sideline and khakis and sparries, we still pay you this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:18):
Oh, you mean his clothes from Kohl's?

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
Yeah.
So by golly Kirk, you bettershow up and you better help the
young nigga.
And if he gets hurt, guess whatyou're doing?
You're playing, and you betterproduce, because we can bring

(02:14:41):
you back next year too, we'renot.

Speaker 2 (02:14:46):
We can, yeah, and so I guess that that's one of the
things that's looming over them,and maybe we'll get to see more
action.
I don't expect us to have anybig signings moving forward.
Again, wishful thinking to hopethat maybe Von Miller comes
here on a one-year for the cheaptype deal.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
He's not signing until trading camp, probably
after camp he doesn't want toWell, right, but that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
Maybe that'll be.
That's when I expect theFalcons to make another move.
It'll be, you know, july,august, and so just look forward
and get ready for the draft.
But as far as the rest of theleague goes, patriots spent an
ass ton of money, obviously, onthe defense, something that was,
I thought, somewhat of a littlebit of a strength that they

(02:15:31):
already had, but they certainlyreassured it, and Mike Merrill
was getting his touch on thatdefense, getting Milton Stevens,
not Milton Stevens, milton.

Speaker 1 (02:15:43):
The Philly lineman that nobody really knew existed
until he got signed by thePatriots.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Yeah, where he's getting $26 million a year to be
an interior lineman.
They got Harold Landry, acouple other nice little pieces.
Didn't address the widereceiver, but who knows, maybe
Cooper Cup becomes the nextplucky white guy out in New
England.
We'll see.
But obviously them, the Bears,of course we just talked about
the Bears.

(02:16:08):
They signed two Falcons.
A host of other guys made sometrades Reassure that offensive
line so that Caleb Williamscould actually have a chance.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
Is Ryan Paul getting fired in front of our faces?

Speaker 2 (02:16:24):
I believe so.
If that team doesn't make theplayoffs, it's going to be tough
fucking flooding one way oranother.
It's going to be tough.
It ain't going to be easy forthem to make the playoffs, but
certainly they should be betterthan they were last year.
I mean no doubt.

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Do you think these are Ryan Paul's moves or do you
think these are Ben Johnson'smoves?

Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
Because I think these are collaborative moves.

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
Are they really collaborative?

Speaker 2 (02:16:51):
They're Dan Quinn.
Thomas Dimitrov moves.

Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Or is Ben Johnson saying, hey, here's what I want,
go figure it out.
And saying that in meetingswith the ownership, what I want,
Go figure it out.
And saying that in meetingswith the ownership.
So, as it's happening, theyknow that this is not Poles
making the move.
This is Ben Johnson spendingmore time on personnel than he
probably would like to becausehe doesn't have a GM who is

(02:17:15):
aligned with him.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
Well, ownership might be in flux just because the
actual owner died, right.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
The family business.

Speaker 2 (02:17:25):
Yeah, no, look, and I'm sure that she's got plenty
of kids.
Hopefully it's not an episodeof what's that show where they
do that.
Huh, the Lakers no, an actualTV show.
Succession, huh.
Succession, yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:17:42):
Did you Succession?
Yes, okay, did you watch?

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
that show.
I've seen the first two orthree episodes.
Katora tried to get me into it,Bro.
It's great.
I like that.
It actually did seem like itwas probably a good show.
They got Fry from fuckingFerris Bueller in it.
I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:18:04):
Beyonce's body is not real.
I'm sorry, the commercial justpopped back up.
Do you remember how we talkedabout after Renaissance?
She got work done.
Yeah.
She definitely did.
Also, floor seats for CowboyCarter are still available in
Atlanta for like $400.
That shit ain't selling.

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
But I think I told you that even last year.
I mean, I ended up, we ended upjust kind of well.
I went, Of course, I gave someto Briggs and then my brother
went, but it wasn't really.
It wasn't a slam dunk stilllike Taylor Swift, which I
dropped the ball and didn't getthe tickets, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (02:18:44):
But like still like taylor swift, which I dropped
the ball and didn't get thetickets, unfortunately, but like
if I meet a white chick who'sin the country.

Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
I'm gonna take her to cowboy court I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:18:58):
What type of reaction do you think you'll get?
Oh, I didn't even think aboutthe Black Queens in there.
Never mind, I'm not going to dothat.
Yeah, I just don't want to like.
That was kind of me justpulling some shit out my ass.
I'm not, I'm built to deal withit if I actually like the chick

(02:19:19):
, but just on some.
Hey, you're pretty cool.
We've been hanging out, let'sgo to this concert.
Yeah, no, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
That'd be almost better as a group, because then
it's ambiguous as to who's withwho, or it's been a couple's
date, it's four friends.
It just happened to be two guysand two girls.

Speaker 1 (02:19:40):
Yeah, no, because, bro, when I went to see Get Out
and I end up meeting thesechicks from the SDSU track team,
like we just happened to bewalking in together and we end
up sitting together because itwas cool and you know what I
mean and we leaving out andthere's a nigga with his white
woman and the way that they wereget out, nigga get out.

(02:20:02):
You didn't see the movie.
You're in a soccer place andI'm like that's hilarious, but
poor fella.

Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Yeah, you don't want that kind of press.

Speaker 1 (02:20:17):
I can't take that.
Pause.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Take that, take that.
That's what Diddy said.
I couldn't do that if you'renot my girlfriend.
I'm not going to get publiclyridiculed by women who are
attracted to me, that I'mattracted to because I'm with
you.

Speaker 2 (02:20:42):
She could be a big Beyonce fan, though I mean
there's that.
I mean, if she be a big Beyoncefan, though I mean there's that
, but you know.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
I mean if she, if she had a big Beyonce can, and
that's a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (02:20:56):
Just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
How do you feel about Devante Adams as a Ram?
You know I got to get better atasking you questions right, so
I should have set it up likethis.
I was listening to a sportsshow and they were talking about
the Rams moving off of CooperCup and acquiring Devontae Adams
, and some pundits felt likethat the Rams were actually
taking a step back by replacingCooper Cup with Devontae Adams.

(02:21:23):
What are your thoughts onDevontae Adams to the Rams are
actually taking a step back byreplacing Cooper Cup with
Devontae Adams.
What are your thoughts onDevontae Adams to the Rams?
Do you think he's an upgrade?
I do think he's an upgrade.

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
He's a better receiver than Cooper Cup.
Today, cooper Cup is still agood receiver.
He just always gets injured.
He always gets injured andalthough he was a better because
the thing is that Tay Adams andPooka Nakua are a little bit
more similar in terms of thetype of receiver, while Cooper

(02:21:55):
Cupp, could you know, he couldline up on the outside, but he's
lined up in the slot, you know.
And not that they can't, theycan too, but like he lines up in
the slot.
No, I know, but I'm saying'tthey can too, but like he lines
up in the slot.
No, I know, but I'm saying likethey're just a little bit.
They are more similar.
They're bigger, more physicaltype wide receivers, while
Cooper Cup was more of a.

Speaker 1 (02:22:16):
Cooper Cup was like 6'3" yeah but, I know
stylistically he's not.
He doesn't appear as big as heis.
Crazy that Paul's a lot ofthose today.
Yeah, cooper Cup is 6-2-2-10.

Speaker 2 (02:22:39):
Yeah but what's Tay Adams?
6-4, 2-25 and he's a nigga?
I think it's an upgrade becausehe's yeah.
But what's Tay Adams?
6'4", 225?
And he's a nigger?
I think it's an upgrade becausehe is, as of today, he's a
better receiver than them.

Speaker 1 (02:22:51):
And they're practically the same age Cooper
Cups Nah, devontae is 6'1" 215.
Really.
Yeah, but it looks bigger.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
He looks a hell of a lot bigger on TV.
That's crazy, but here's thething.

Speaker 1 (02:23:11):
Here's the thing you say on the computer.
I said on tv I don't, you don'twatch movies on tv.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
No, no, but I still think it was an upgrade.
Overall.
It was an upgrade.
Matt Stafford will be able toget on the ball.
I just think that it opens itup a little bit more.
Kyron Williams obviously kindof a rising star running back.
I like the move and they'resaving.
I mean they paid him moreobviously than even what Cooper

(02:23:45):
Cupp was going to get, but theysave on the cap.
By cutting him, cooper Cupp canget a fresh start.
I would like to see Cooper Cuppin Green Bay personally.
I feel, like that would be theperfect place for him to go.

Speaker 1 (02:23:59):
So here's the thing, though when Cooper Cupp was at
his peak, I still think TayAdams was better than him Like.
I don't ever think there's beena day when Cooper Cup lined up
on a football field and acornerback Was like.
I think Brown.

(02:24:20):
Is a nigga better than Devontae?
I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:28):
Triple crown season is historically.
It's got to be a top five, topthree.
Why yeah, Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 (02:24:37):
I mean, if you want to talk about the accolades,
sure I can't argue that with you.
He accolades, sure I can'targue that with you.
But for one, matthew Staffordforce feeds his favorite
receiver, sean McVay runs agreat offense that schemes
people open.
I'm not calling Cooper Cup ascheme receiver, I'm not calling

(02:25:02):
him that.
But I think what had Cooper Cupat elite for a short period of
time was the scheme.
He's always been good, he'sbeen good to great, he's good to
great.
But the scheme and MatthewStafford force feeding him the

(02:25:22):
ball made him elite and they wona Superbowl and he had a good
Superbowl where Matthew Stafforddidn't have like a crazy game
to where the quarterback justgets the MVP.
But do you care about, do youeven care about scheme with
Devante Adams, like he wasn'tgood with the Raiders because

(02:25:44):
the pill wasn't.
What do?

Speaker 2 (02:25:45):
you mean by throwing the ball?

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
He was getting open.
You saw some of the clips fromreceivers.
He's like this man's trying tokill me out here.

Speaker 2 (02:25:59):
Guess what.
Now he gets to be the backupfor him in LA because he'd read
up as well.
But I like the move overall.
But, shifting from Devontae tohis best friend, mr Ayahuasca
himself, he still remainsunsigned and obviously all signs

(02:26:21):
point to Pittsburgh, whichmakes the most sense, I think,
for him and for the Steelers.
Mr Turner doesn't believe thathe would rather have Russell
Wilson back, but I think AaronRodgers is poised to have a
better year next year.
I wasn't even going to say abounce back, but just a better
year.
I think he'll be better If hewent to Pittsburgh.
I think he would have a betteryear because he's one year

(02:26:43):
removed from the Achilles, justlike I expect Kirk Cousins,
wherever he goes, eventually tobe better than what he was or be
more like more what he was onthe 6-3 Falcons.
You know, I expect AaronRodgers to be better.
The Jets are a shit showorganization.
They fired the coach after fivegames, like I mean it was just

(02:27:05):
a lot of issues there and therewasn't much that they could do
because every game became a mustwin at a certain point, and so
and they had all Brick runningthe show.
Right and Brick, which I didn'teven get to this when we were
just I guess it's stilltechnically Falcons first.
But Brick there's an audio ofhim out there watching Malachi
Starks and basically saying yeahyeah, the bank is empty.

(02:27:34):
Yeah, pretty much.
This is the press conference man, but Aaron Rodgers in general,
obviously all signs point toPittsburgh.
But then you've got Florio, whois a Minnesota Vikings fan,
saying that the front office isintrigued with the idea of
bringing him on for a yearBecause technically, jj,

(02:27:57):
although gets hurt last yearbefore the season starts after
one preseason game, he stillwasn't really, he wasn't on the
field working.

Speaker 3 (02:28:04):
Like he wasn't working ornothing.

Speaker 2 (02:28:06):
So although it's a redshirt year for him, he still
is technically a rookie andmaybe you want to season him,
especially with a guy like AaronRodgers.
Plus, I just think everybodywants to see him complete the
Brett Favre arc anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:28:22):
The Vikings won 13 games last year.

Speaker 2 (02:28:26):
Yeah, and they've got talented pass catchers.
Aaron Rodgers is familiar withAaron Jones already, being that
they were Packer teammates.

Speaker 1 (02:28:36):
Him and Jettis can figure it out.
That won't take long.

Speaker 2 (02:28:39):
Yeah, and he's got Hockison, who is a good tight
end, yeah, very good tight end,top five really, if healthy, I
mean, he's top five, so it'sintriguing.
Oh, by the way, it also sets upfor him to go to Green Bay,
something I'm sure that he wantsto do, like you have to think

(02:29:01):
that he wants to play a gamethere.

Speaker 1 (02:29:03):
Yeah, no, he wants to throw for like think that he
wants to play a game there.
Yeah, no, he wants to throw forlike four tubs in Lambeau and
God forbid he gets a chance torun one in.
He's Lambeau leaping For sure.
He got some smoke for Goody, hegot some smoke for LeFleur.

(02:29:24):
It's all love for Jordan Love.
I really think he and JordanLove have a decent bond.
I want a relationship.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
But he said that he treated it way better because he
said Brett kind of treated himlike shit and he said he didn't
want Jordan Love to feel likethat.
Plus, he gave him a bigshout-out.
He gave him a big shout-outwhen they beat the Bears.
They were like what did AaronRyan?
He either tweeted, it wassomething, but he was like,
basically he's still the ownerof the.

(02:29:56):
He's like he's the new owner ofthe Bears.

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
I mean because at the end of the day I think Aaron
looked at it he was mad at theorganization.
He wasn't mad at the player.
He just goes.
If I ball out, he still don'tplay.
I control whether or not heplays.
He wouldn't want two MVPs andwent to NFC Championship and

(02:30:22):
lost.

Speaker 2 (02:30:23):
Typical Aaron Rodgers , yeah, but if you go to a
14-win team, good defense.
Obviously the defense isalready set up.
Impressive O'Connell's offense.
I don't think it'll be an issuefor him.
I mean he's already basicallybeen in that offense.
He's been in the floor offense.

(02:30:44):
You know it lines up prettywell.
He loves beating Detroit.
The thing about Detroit thatrain didn't start until he left.
In reality it kind of endedthat way because they beat them
to kick them out of the playoffsin his last game there.
We knew what it was, we knewwhat it was before.

Speaker 4 (02:31:03):
that game started them out of the playoffs in his
last game there, but we knewwhat it was.

Speaker 1 (02:31:06):
We knew what it was before that game started Because
, I mean, jordan Love wasapproaching year three and they
were going to have to make adecision on his fifth-year
option.
So Aaron was gone, even if hewas Super Bowl MVP Damn near.
You know what I'm sayingBecause he was so old.
But Shepy was kind of he hadhis panties in the water about

(02:31:28):
Aaron Rodgers, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (02:31:31):
What did he say?
I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (02:31:34):
Oh man, Shefty went off about pretty much the same,
oh, holding it hostage.

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
I think I read it.
I didn't see it though.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
So yeah, no, he did a video on it.
And here's my problem withAaron Rodgers' coverage.
Nobody in the media is as goodas Aaron Rodgers at what he does
versus the competition and whatthey do, and have as many

(02:32:02):
available options to choose andhave enough money to say that if
I don't like any of this, I canwalk away and my life doesn't
change.
Because Shefty can only workfor NFL Network Fox.
He can barely work for Fox.
Shefty can really only work forESPN or be independent.

(02:32:22):
He can barely work for Fox.
Shefty can really only work forESPN or be independent.
And I don't know if Sheftyindependently can turn the
numbers that he could generate,the numbers that he can ESPN.
Because what are we going to do?
Are we going to like subscribeto get breaking news by Shefty
when other guys would justsubscribe to it and break it for

(02:32:43):
free Ten seconds later?

Speaker 2 (02:32:47):
Yeah, it would kind of be like when Woj got replaced
by Shams.
Yeah, like Woj wasn't great atwhat he did, it's just once he
didn't want to do it anymore.
Espn came in and got the nextguy and he's doing the same
thing, Just like when we wereall shocked about the Luca
fucking trade.

Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
But if you think about it, l'oreal and Glazer
that's crazy.
They are better, they are morereliable, trusted reporters than
than Shefty they're they don't.
They don't put out the volumethat Shefty does as far as
breaking stories, but theyactually break the important

(02:33:31):
shit.
Who cares about Leonard Floydfighting with the Falcons?
Florio broke that.
Schultz and what's my man'sname from NFL Network, their guy
.

Speaker 2 (02:33:51):
Ian.

Speaker 1 (02:33:52):
Rappaport yeah, rappaport and Schultz got into a
fight at the Starbucks.
Hold on, you can't fight me inmy establishment, bro.
This is my legacy.

Speaker 2 (02:34:10):
Yeah, Glazer, literally, and he was on Ballers
.
I don't know if you remember,but he fits more of what it is
that those guys do.
You can tell that like he's ina weird way.
You wouldn't be shocked to seeglazer out there actually at the
uh uh reuben party.
Well, and get real details intalking to these dudes and like

(02:34:33):
them.
They're being like man becauseit's going on here, this is like
and then he's also gonna do ittastefully well, yeah, because
jake laser he runs.

Speaker 1 (02:34:43):
He runs the gym that guys work out at so he gets
information and he gets to sitwith it because he's not
pressured to deliver thebreaking news.
When the breaking news happens,he just gets to break stories
and drop tea leaves because he'sgetting the information
organically from the source,whereas, like your Schefters,

(02:35:08):
your woes, your shams they justare calling them.
They're getting.
They're getting informationfrom agents, gms and and and and
owners.
I prefer the guy to get theinformation from the players.
That's why Chris Haynes is myfavorite NBA reporter, because
Chris Haynes is a nigga who betalking to niggas and they fuck

(02:35:30):
with Haynes.
So that's why Haynes be gettinginformation.
Chomps is on clutch, so Rich isjust feeding him information.
Because Rich is doing thebusiness Well, he gets paid off
of it.
And what's my man's name?
Woj?
You know he's the GM owner guy.

(02:35:52):
Like what player do you reallythink is talking?
Like what player with clout istalking to Woj?

Speaker 2 (02:36:02):
Nobody.
Nobody's texting Woj and beinglike KD.
Nobody's texting Woj and beinglike KD's not texting Woj and
being like man.
This is some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (02:36:10):
But Dame is texting Chris Haynes or calling Chris
Haynes.
Man, you hear this bullshit,man.
What are these niggas talkingabout?
Bro Bruh, they know I want togo to Miami, bruh, just let me
go, we ain't winning.
I don't think.
I don't think.

(02:36:30):
I don't think Sheffy's gettingthat conversation from from the
positions that we like.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:36:40):
Again, you're on a roll today, sir.
I don't I think I don't thinkyou've ever done this many in
one sitting.

Speaker 1 (02:36:47):
And I'm not even doing them on purpose.
That's crazy too.

Speaker 2 (02:36:51):
Yeah, I was about to say.

Speaker 1 (02:36:58):
Now this might be the most effortless podcast we've
ever done.

Speaker 2 (02:37:04):
You, sir, are just stepping in it.

Speaker 1 (02:37:06):
That's what she said.
Saquon got some more money.
Did we talk about that lastweek?

Speaker 2 (02:37:16):
I mean good for him.
It's deserving, honestly.

Speaker 1 (02:37:27):
You know what you did this?
That's enough.
Ken Pickett said he's competingfor a starting job.

Speaker 2 (02:37:34):
Yeah, until Kirk Cousins arrives.
Then it's no longer competingfor a starting job.
Hey, if he gets hurt again likehe did last year, we need you
to be ready to step in.
We don't think you're MichaelPenix, but we would like for you
to be able to step in, do youthink?

Speaker 1 (02:37:53):
Ken Pickett could beat out Deshaun Watson in a
practice quarterback competition.
Obviously, deshaun's notplaying because of his Achilles.
Yeah, but do you think he canbeat Deshaun out?
I don't think he can beat himout?

Speaker 2 (02:38:05):
No, I don't either.
But the thing is too withDeshaun.
Is he going to show up andactually want to care when he's
there?
Because I think it's more of aCleveland thing for him.
Like, I think that there'sobviously something wrong, but I
feel like he's almost depressedplaying for the Brown, the
press playing Browns.
He took the money when heprobably should have just came
home and it just psychologicallyhad a lot on him with all the

(02:38:31):
stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:38:31):
Well based on his performance.
I'm happy he didn't come home.

Speaker 2 (02:38:35):
Yeah, of course I mean, but who knows, it could
have been different maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:38:42):
Yeah, but we got Pennix.

Speaker 2 (02:38:45):
I'm happy with how everything turned out.
It could have maybe beendifferent, though, for him.

Speaker 1 (02:38:50):
That's fair.
What else happened in freeagency that matters?
Daniel Jones to the ColtsQuarterback competition of the
two worst quarterbacks in theleague last year.

Speaker 2 (02:39:00):
You know they would be a good team to have on hard
knocks.

Speaker 1 (02:39:06):
Well, ursae is a fucking nutcase, yeah, I know
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:39:10):
They'd be a good team to have and I can't help but
feel like Ballard Shane Steichen.
I feel like these guys are kindof walking on eggshells a
little, because if they go 7-10again, I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:39:25):
Is Ballard a good GM?
I think he is.

Speaker 2 (02:39:32):
What's his track record show?

Speaker 1 (02:39:37):
Well, Gus Bradford, I mean it's going to be hard to
get guys to sign in Indianapolis.
Yeah, and you know he took thatjob with Andrew Luck being his
quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:39:48):
Yeah, and every year they parlayed over to a new guy
what it was Phillip Rivers, thenCarson Wentz, then Matt Ryan,
then Brissette then.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
And AR.

Speaker 2 (02:40:04):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:40:06):
AR and Joe Flacco.
No, yeah, AR and Joe Flaccolast year.

Speaker 2 (02:40:10):
Yeah, and didn't that typically dictate a GM's
performance?
Do you get the quarterbackright?
That, almost is really.

Speaker 1 (02:40:19):
My thing is what opportunities for quarterback
did you have?
My thing is what opportunitiesfor quarterback did you have?
Like he couldn't play.
He wasn't in the Kirk Cousinsgame because they already had
Anthony Richardson going intoyear two.
Right, you can't make that movewhen he signed Phillip Rivers,

(02:40:40):
who was on the market that fitinto their cap structure here,
keep talking.
I'm going to have to pull upsomething.
You know just the more and moreI think about it.
Ballard definitely hasn't donewell at quarterback, but outside
of drafting Anthony Richardson,I don't know that he's had good

(02:41:04):
options.

Speaker 2 (02:41:07):
Many believe that it was a reach for him to draft him
.
That's what I'm pulling up nowI'm trying to see who is it that
they could have had at four.

Speaker 1 (02:41:16):
Everybody believes that was a reach because Anthony
Richardson did not play enoughfootball at Florida.
He did not play enough goodfootball at Florida for me to
want to take him in the top ten.
I wouldn't take AnthonyRichardson before round three.
Personally, anthony Richardsonwas a third-round quarterback
when he came out, a guy withpotential all the measurables

(02:41:40):
but had not played enough andhad not shown it enough on the
field consistently.

Speaker 2 (02:41:45):
Well, quarterback-wise, I'm looking at
the draft now.
Obviously this is the BryceYoung, CJ Stroud year and he's
taking third.
I don't know who the freeagents were that year, but they
weren't going to draft B, JohnRobinson or Jameer Gibbs.
They could have drafted JalenCarter.
They could have drafted DevinWitherspoon.

(02:42:08):
Probably wouldn't have draftedJSN or Zay Flowers.
No, and that's pretty much it.
I'm just looking at this.
I'm trying to see.
Was there anyone else that wasjust like, because Will Levis is
the next quarterback taken?

Speaker 1 (02:42:29):
Well, no, Anthony Richardson is a better draft
pick than Will Levis, even ifWill Levis turns out to be a
better quarterback than AnthonyRichardson which I think they're
both so bad that it doesn'tmatter.
But Anthony Richardson is thechoice there.
Will Levis couldn't win the jobat Penn State over a non-NFL

(02:42:52):
quarterback.
Yeah, the Saints have broughtback their pass rush.
I loved it.
Tase Young and the nigga withthe weird mustache you know the

(02:43:18):
guy with the most sacks againstMatt Ryan.

Speaker 2 (02:43:20):
I can't think of his name I was about to say Will
Smith, but obviously he gotkilled.
He did.
He got murdered, remember?
Yeah, I know, but he was alwaysopposite of him.
I know who?
Yeah, 94.

Speaker 1 (02:43:38):
Yeah, the guy who the tight end in Miami had his name
backwards.

Speaker 2 (02:43:42):
Yeah, the guy who the tight end in Miami had his name
backwards, cam Jordan.

Speaker 1 (02:43:52):
Yes, cam Jordan.
Cam Jordan's still a productiveplayer, though, yeah because
you remember, jordan Cameron wasthe tight end.

Speaker 2 (02:43:59):
Yeah, he's going to be good on TV.
Cam Jordan yeah, him and MattRyan had a lot of I mean and
honestly they don't I mean theyknow each other.

Speaker 1 (02:44:09):
Of course.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, but that's good banter,because cam jordan can also talk
shit to matt ryan.
But then matt ryan can be likeyeah, I'm still mvp, I played in
super bowl.
You weren't there in 07, 08,whatever year that was.

Speaker 2 (02:44:24):
Right, you only attended to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
Malik Monk looks like he skipped showers.

Speaker 2 (02:44:35):
Is it because of the beard?

Speaker 1 (02:44:37):
The beard, the hair, he looks like he smokes
backwoods and skips showers.

Speaker 2 (02:44:47):
Are they on TV?
Yeah, because they're playingthe Warriors, right.

Speaker 1 (02:44:51):
Uh-huh, what's the score?
79-70 Warriors.
The Warriors were up like 20 athalf, but Monk and them got it
going.
Steph Curry cooking.
I'm not really watching thegame, it's just on.
When we get to certain points Imight look down at it, but I

(02:45:12):
don't know.
I like to give you eye contactwhen we do these shows.

Speaker 2 (02:45:21):
Well, I appreciate that, lee.
I don't know what to make ofthat, but I I appreciate it.
You're saying you're payingattention.

Speaker 1 (02:45:31):
I get it, yeah oh shit, um what else in free
agency?
Because it's almost 12 o'clock,is it?

Speaker 2 (02:45:39):
really.
Yeah, it's 11 37 there.
See, I don't see the time onhere either.
You know there are other lines.
I guess Denver got GreenlawnFunga.
Those are really good picks,especially for a defense that
was already pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:45:59):
Yeah, those guys are pretty good pickups If they can
make it on the field.
Great Billy gutted theirdefense, I think.

Speaker 2 (02:46:10):
I don't question it.
Did they really gut it, likeeven with the dude Milton?
Jordan Davis is just going tostep in and be.
Look here.

Speaker 1 (02:46:19):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:46:20):
Like it's just them, I mean so.

Speaker 1 (02:46:23):
I don't question anything that Howie does,
because Howie is not GMing yearto year.
So they may be an eight-winteam next year.
They won't be, I know.
But I'm saying they may be aneight-win team next year and the
media will be mad but nobodyinside the building will be
worried.

(02:46:43):
It's like ah, we lost our OC,we lost a couple coaches, we had
to get rid of some players whocost too much, but we're going
to draft this year, we're goingto draft next year.
We'll sign some guys.
You know we'll be back in twoyears, but we're going for a
nine and eight.
Let Washington win the division, crawl into the playoffs, get

(02:47:07):
beat first round, maybe secondround, because we're a little
frisky and people are afraid ofus because we're champions.
But we're not trying to win theSuperbowl this year, we're
trying to win it next year.
Like I feel like that's kind ofhow Philly operates, like they
are actually long-term planningand like looking at the seasons

(02:47:30):
where it makes sense for them tolike try to actually win.
Because again, how he has somuch equity in that organization
.
Again, this guy lost his job inpersonnel and came back when
Chip Kelly took over.
Howie was supposed to leavePhilly and go to another

(02:47:51):
organization, but again, thatspeaks to why he's the best GM
in the league and Philly may bethe best organization in the
league today.

Speaker 2 (02:48:01):
Definitely the best GM owner tandem.
No doubt I don't think it'sclose.

Speaker 1 (02:48:06):
Yeah, no, no, jeffrey Lurie was like well.

Speaker 2 (02:48:09):
Cronky, shanahan and Lynch would be second.

Speaker 1 (02:48:11):
No, no, no, Cronky, and the guy we let leave, golly.
What's the Rams GM name?
Snead and Snead.
Yeah, they're better than SanFran.
They're better than San Fran,they're better than San.

Speaker 2 (02:48:26):
Fran, you're right.
I said Shanahan, I'm thinkinghead coach GM yeah.
Owner, gm yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:48:37):
Well, head coach GM, los Angeles is better than San
Fran too.

Speaker 2 (02:48:43):
I mean, they certainly have a ring to show
for it, right?

Speaker 1 (02:48:46):
Yeah, but also San Fran has some nasty misses, like
Solomon Thomas, trey, lance.

Speaker 2 (02:48:55):
Hey, but they covered that shit up real well with the
guys that got the last pick.

Speaker 1 (02:48:59):
They covered it up, but I mean they offloaded the
Debo contract.
They want to get rid of IU,Like San Fran is winning, but
they're both overrated.

Speaker 2 (02:49:18):
We didn't even say anything about the commanders.
Obviously they get Debo andthen they get Laramie Tunsel,
which makes you really wonder.
Say anything about thecommanders.
Obviously they get Debo andthen they get Laramie Tunsell,
which makes you really wonder.
And I know Laramie Tunsell.
Every time I looked up itseemed like he was getting
called for holding.
But really, makes you wonderwhat the fuck's going on in
Houston, because I guess they'renot bringing Diggs back.

(02:49:38):
He's still a free agent.
Who did they get?
They did sign a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (02:49:46):
Nobody I care about.
It wasn't.
Yeah, it's a downgrade, that'swhat I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:49:50):
It was definitely a downgrade, but they already had
one of the worst offensive linesin the NFL last year.

Speaker 1 (02:49:56):
Well, why continue to spend money for an older player
who had his most penalized yearlast year, which probably tells
them he's lost a step or three?

Speaker 2 (02:50:09):
Could be because the rest of the whole line was shit
around him.
They got a decent little return.
They got like a second, afourth, a fifth and like a sixth
and like a third, pick swap orsomething.

Speaker 1 (02:50:21):
Yeah, I just think they wanted to get off of the
money and maybe they find aplayer who's not as good, but
they can get more players tomake the unit better.
Sure, who else?
And that division is no man'sland anyways.

Speaker 2 (02:50:37):
They'll probably win it again just because they do
have CJ Stroud.
But it's just weird becauseTank Dale they're saying he's
going to miss all of next year.
Well, you know what?
He's a good receiver, but gosh,I mean I'm not trying to say
that he'll get injured again,but certainly when guys start
getting injured you start tolook at it like, well, I hope

(02:50:58):
this isn't like a theme and Iget it.
I feel like with a guy likeDiggs I forgot what they gave up
to get Diggs.
But why wouldn't you want tojust bring Diggs back?

Speaker 1 (02:51:09):
Maybe they'll sign Cooper Cup.
Side note Aisha Curry hasgotten a lot of face work done
and it's just too obvious.
She looks great, but it's justtoo obvious.

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
Are you saying, she looks better now?

Speaker 1 (02:51:22):
I'm saying the way her cheek, I'm saying the way
her cheekbones look and the wayher lips are.
You can just tell there's a lotof Botox and filler and shit in
there.
It doesn't look bad.
And if I made Steph Curry moneyI'm sure my wife would do the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:51:43):
Yeah, what I did was I'm on her Instagram.
Sure my wife would do the samething.
Yeah, what I did was I'm on herInstagram just so I can look at
her.
Now, you're absolutely right.
You could tell she's startingto look more like a Kardashian,
yeah, but like a hotter mom.

Speaker 1 (02:52:02):
Yeah, she's looking like a racial ambiguous woman
who lives in California.
Yeah, you know, steph Currydoesn't get enough credit for
being a nappy-headed nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:52:17):
The nappy-headed nigga huh.

Speaker 1 (02:52:19):
I mean he's up there in the KD level of nappy hair.

Speaker 2 (02:52:28):
You think KD gives a fuck about what you have to say,
Lee?

Speaker 1 (02:52:34):
No, but he might respond to it because he's
single with no kids, so he hastime.
But like I'm a KD fan, so likeI don't even like to shit on KD
on this platform, even if hedeserves it, because I'm just a
KD fan I look at KD and I justthink he just plays the most

(02:52:55):
purest form of basketball.
When it comes to just playingbasketball, I'm not talking
about winning and losing, I'mtalking about just playing
basketball winning your matchup,doing what you do really well.

Speaker 2 (02:53:07):
Isn't it sad that somehow him and Kyrie didn't win
Kyrie's another one just likehim in that respect, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (02:53:16):
They got hurt.
And then the city of New Yorkwouldn't let Kyrie play because
of the vaccine.
You know like it was just.
The city of New York wouldn'tlet Kyrie play because of the
vaccine.
You know Like it was just.
I mean, if Katie With JamesHarden too.

Speaker 2 (02:53:31):
Another, just like Remember Katie's shot.
But it's just so crazy, likethat game just didn't
materialize enough.

Speaker 1 (02:53:40):
But think about how close they were If Katie's foot,
his toe, was not over the lineIf he wears a size 14 instead of
16 or whatever size he wears.
That three happens and they goto the Eastern Conference finals
against the Hawks with a hurt,smoke us.
They smoke us and then they goto the finals against the Suns.

(02:54:01):
They probably beat that Sunshere, yeah, and then they go to
the finals against the Suns.
They probably beat that Sunsteam.
So, and that's bro.
That's why I hate what's goingto happen to our era of sports,
where we're no longer talkingabout it and not like me and you
, but our generation, yeah,because people are going to
speak about the results withoutthe proper context because they

(02:54:24):
didn't watch it happen, which iswhy, you know, we don't really
talk about players and musicanything back in the day,
because, yeah, you can watch thegames, but you don't.
You can't speak to the impact,impact and if you can't really
speak to the cultural impact,shut up.

(02:54:45):
You know, like I don't speak ondipset because I was not
interested in dipset when theywere dipset.
I can go back and listen to themusic and say, oh yeah, I know
this shit rocks, but what madedipset great was their cultural
impact too.
And because I can't relate tothe cultural impact, dipset

(02:55:10):
doesn't sit as high for me asthey probably should, based upon
how I feel about their music.

Speaker 2 (02:55:17):
They weren't even the most, they weren't even the
best group slash kind of recordlabel-ish in their own city
though either.

Speaker 1 (02:55:30):
Who you going to put over them.

Speaker 2 (02:55:32):
Well, rockefeller, no doubt.
Well, they were signed toRockefeller.
Yeah Well, not always, thoughNot the entire time.
Yeah, true, and some couldmaybe argue.
I think overall they're betterthan G-Unit, but some people
might say G-Unit.
I guess they're.
Because it is the same era.

Speaker 1 (02:55:56):
I was just so deep into Southern music at that
point in my life.
We're talking about the 2000s.
If it's not on the radio, Idon't need to hear it, because
we had so much music back thenJeezy, gucci, ti, luda.

Speaker 2 (02:56:19):
Them franchise boys 2000s is running everything.
Still that's when SouthCarolina started, outkast was
still active.

Speaker 1 (02:56:25):
The random crank that niggas you know what I'm saying
.
Like we had so much music downhere, that's like Lil Jon the
Lil Jon era.

Speaker 2 (02:56:35):
Yeah, crunk music, crunk and trap.
Yeah, it's like bro.
And snap Crunk, oh, think aboutthat, I don't know.
Crump, oh, think about that,crump, trap, snap.

Speaker 1 (02:56:44):
And that's kind of the time that all of those were
kind of doing their own thingsor building up.
Hey, I'm sorry, cam.
Yeah, you slid on that verse,didn't hear it, didn't hear it.
You know Yung Capone, he hoppedon that one song and we'd

(02:57:08):
rather hear that.
You know what I'm saying?
I know you're a better rapperthan Yung Capone.

Speaker 2 (02:57:17):
I was more interested in hearing Andre 3000's verse
on Walk it Out and Two Step andThrow Some D's.
I was about to say yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:57:33):
I was more interested in hearing them random niggas
from the east side making themsnap and pop songs that Urkel
dance.
I think we're done.

Speaker 2 (02:57:51):
Yeah, I think we pretty much hit every topic that
we needed to hit, except onelast thing, which I guess this
is a good way to sign it off.
Anyways, you gonna stay up tosee if the sky is red.

Speaker 1 (02:58:05):
What time is it supposed to be red?

Speaker 2 (02:58:07):
So it might be even going on right now, but I think
the official like when it's atits peak, or whatever will be
like 2 am.

Speaker 1 (02:58:18):
No, I'm trying to wake up at 5 am when my alarm
goes off in the morning and likeget up because that's my gym
alarm, but not go to the gym.
Go to the office and get abunch of work done and leave
that bitch at like 12, then goto the gym and then go home and

(02:58:42):
do nothing.
I feel it.
Yeah, because you're daddingthis weekend, right?

Speaker 2 (02:58:50):
I sure am.
I'm picking up Mari from schooland then the weekend begins for
us.
We're going to make spaghettitomorrow night.
That sounds fun.
Yeah.
I'm amped.

Speaker 1 (02:59:04):
I'm going to try to set something up.
I probably shouldn't talk aboutthis on the podcast, but who
cares?
Two weeks, I would like to dosomething with our daughters.
Okay, because, yeah, theyhaven't even met, have they?
Or Lo was like when you broughtLo over, I don't even know,
have they?

Speaker 2 (02:59:23):
Or Lowe was like.
When you brought Lowe over, Idon't even know.
I don't think that Mari wasliving there.

Speaker 1 (02:59:28):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:59:28):
They were either in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:59:30):
No, she wasn't, she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:59:33):
Yeah, well, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:59:34):
Because remember, yeah, yeah, we're over that day.

Speaker 2 (02:59:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:59:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you were like allapologetic to me on the side and
I'm like I just didn't want it,because I.
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:59:48):
It's visualizing it.

Speaker 1 (02:59:51):
I already know that's one of those ones, that that
was going to be a shortconversation.
No matter what, even if itspoke to me being at your crib
One other weekend, I'm likegrown ass man.
How the fuck am I telling himeven if it spoke to me being at
your crib, right, yeah, oneother weekend.
I'm like grown-ass man, how thefuck am I telling him to come
to his house?
I'm a guest and you are like areal guest.

(03:00:15):
You are my plus one.
You're not invited here.
You're only here because I'mhere, right.
And she did not do any of thatstuff to try to say she didn't
complain or anything Like oh,you just beat nothing.
But point being is I'm notentertaining that conversation

(03:00:38):
about what happens in anothergrown man's house because it's
not my house.
I can't control that shit.
Yeah, yeah, nigga.
I can't control that shit.
Yeah, yeah, nigga, I'll talk toyou later.
I might call you.

Speaker 2 (03:00:50):
Salutations good people.

Speaker 1 (03:00:53):
Hey, another great week.
This was fun.

Speaker 2 (03:00:56):
As always, All right bro.

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