A.I. EP. 316: Halloween Episode - The Exorcism of Emily Rose 20th Anniversary

This was one of the scariest films Rob has ever seen and thought it would be fun to make Buegs experience the terror he felt. Hearing these terrified takes made for a fun episode. Happy Halloween!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The sun is shining either cloud in the sky. We
wouldn't know because we're so happy inside.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Some people a boat, put on some skis, but.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
We would rather sit on down and talk. Some movies
were the Avid Indoorsmen. Come listen to our show where
the evid.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Indoorsmen at home bore on the go? Were the Avidendorsmen.
We hope you.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Love it, olds, so come on in and stay. We'll
do our best to make use my wre the indoors man.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oo, what is happening? I'm Rob Lund, Quinn.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
And Hi in the apparition that was Eric Ben.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
You're the Avid in Don.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
And it's Halloween to and the Elloweien or Halloween week.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, this comes back the day before Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
So my goodness. All the eve well we were saying
the exact same thing. Look at us. Wow, Wow, Halloween
really turned into a love story all of a sudden.
I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
It's our Halloween rom com.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I hope you all have been greeted by treats more
than tricks.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
How are you today?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Pal? I am doing pretty well. I I'm well rested.
I came home off of tour.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
We did.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
We just started the jukebox tour, Yeah, which has been
pretty fun. It's been been using my brain a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I know, how many shows did you guys do it
before you came back?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
We did four shows? Yeah, four okay yea, And the.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Show is switched up, but not like a crazy amount
like people really have have They're like four songs that
they for people that don't understand the jukebox tour that
we are doing.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
It.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
We're making it so that the audience actually votes on
what songs we're going to.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Do, which is fun.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
It's fun and a lot of work, but fun, a.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Lot of work. We learned a lot of songs, but honestly,
we've probably only switched out like six songs.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Maybe funny interesting.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, we've switched up the order a few nights just
for like flow and stuff. But but yeah, people kind
of like the songs that they like.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Which ones are they picking?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
The number one every time has been Country Roads, really.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Which has been crazy a great song, don't get me wrong,
but just.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like yeah, and it's been Country Roads, Ring of Fire
and Sea Shanty Medley.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well Medley Now, but I was like country Roads not
a terrible heart saying, so that's kind of nice. Yeah, yeah,
I get although I don't know your version all that well,
so maybe I'm wrong about that.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
It gets up there, but it's but it's yeah, I mean,
I love a.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Beautiful and like chill though, but you know that's nice.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
But dude, I've been sleeping so poorly on that bus.
It's just been brutal and it's been a variety of
different reasons.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Why sure, But last.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Night I got to be at home and I slept
so good. That's great, wonderful. So uh and then tonight
I'm gonna fly back out. We got our next show
in Green Bay and then meiwalk and then.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Are you Bay tonight?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Then I'm gonna got a Green Bay tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
It is nice, dude, very cool. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
How have you been good? Good?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Just doing the thing, enjoying this nice cold weather. It's lovely. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Are you doing anything for Halloween?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I don't know yet. It's too far away. I'm not sure. Okay,
there was talk about going. I might go to Brandon's
and hang out because he does it up so big. Yeah,
it's like that could be kind of fun to just
go hang out. It's Halloween's a weird one because I
want to participate, but also do not have kids, and

(04:20):
I'm a weird old man, so like, you know, yeah,
I don't want to be weird about things.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
I get it, I get it. Do do you get
many trigger treaters at your place?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Now? I've never had a single one here.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Ever, you should go to Brandon's. That's that part, that's kind.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Of I was like, oh, that'd be fun. I also
thought about maybe seeing what the posts we're doing. It's
fun to be around kiddos on Halloween. I feel like,
you know, that's what it's all about. So I probably
will end up going to Brandos and just hanging out
and talking smart and then we'll give a bunch of
candy to kids. It'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
That'll be fun. Yeah, we're doing our first time we've
ever been on a trip during Halloween.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I know. I'm excited to hear what you guys think though.
I think that'll be fun.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
We're going down to Golf Shores.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I have never been a week yeah, so we're going
to be there with Paul Kelsey's family. There's going to
be a bunch of other kids too, so we're all
bring costumes down there and yeah, see how.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It comes fun. That's fun.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, it'll certainly be warmer.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
It definitely will be. Ye, my costume will have shorts involved.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I'm usually do too, Yeah they do if that really?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, usually it's just a bedsheet.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah. Yeah. I really was lazy and also, just for
no explicable reason, very comfortable with my body.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I've always admired that about you.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's not like I it was deserved to not think
that way, but man, I really just went with it,
went it is what it is. Gang.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
I don't know what to tell you. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Anyhow have you been watching any movie I have?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I know you watched this movie. You saw this
movie before I saw it. Oh, I got to watch
this on a plane when I was going to tour.
I like it, and it's the most I've cried in
the movie in a very long time.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh you're talking about it first. I love it.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I love it, And I'm talking about the John Candy
I like me documentary.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Dude, I mean, right, what are we even doing?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean I was I was bhooing in the opening credits.
I mean I felt like you. I was like I
probably cried like fifteen times throughout this thing.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It was so lovely and also made me realize I
knew so precious little about that lovely man.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I knew, I knew a bit, but I did not
know about all of his struggles towards the end of
his life. Yeah, and so that happened me out for him.
But oh my gosh, it was just he was just
such a huge part of my childhood and seeing his
friends and peers talk about him with so much respect,

(07:09):
it was just really heartwarming. It was tragic he was
so young when he passed away.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I just thought it was a really wonderfully well done
doc by Colin Hanks getting Cynthia Revo to cover every
time you go, yeah good, oh, just like come on,
it was incredible. I yeah, I can't say enough good
things about it. I adored it. How did you feel

(07:38):
about it?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I loved it as well. Also, was just crying the
whole time. It was it was really beautiful just to
see a life that was like, really well lived, even
though it was short lived. And you know, that is
a tragedy that it was. But also like he did
a lot of stuff, which is cool.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I had no idea he owned the Canadian football team.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I didn't know any of that. Yeah, like, yeah, I'm
with you. I thought that was crazy, and I really
find the the stuff about them, like, you know, trying
to make it together and you know, all that stuff
with obviously I knew he was in the SVTV and
all that stuff, but I guess I just I like
that that kind of stuff, you know of maybe because

(08:20):
that's the part of the entertainment business I went through to,
you know, so it's like a nostalgic in a way,
but just the like trying to make it and the
people you meet and stuff. I just loved it.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
How crazy was that cast? I'm sorry to interrupt.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
How nuts was that group of sctop folks.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
They're insane, like it's everyone wonderful and there was even
people I forgot were a part of that that I love.
You know, what was her name? The one lady I
was like, oh my god, yeah, duh, I didn't even
think of that.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
But no, Catherine O'Hara.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, certainly not her, like she was one of the
other anyway, it doesn't matter, but someone I was like, oh, yeah,
I forgot she was from that stable as well, you know,
just wonderful. And I will say it is terribly sad,
you know, at the end of the movie, obviously because
we all know how it ends with him dying, but

(09:14):
it is mostly uplifting. I thought, you know, it's emotional,
for sure, but I thought mostly it was just celebrating
a cool guy, and you know, I mean, that's a
pretty good life, right if everyone's just like he was
the best, and you know, I wish I kind of
wish he would have saw that maybe a little bit more,

(09:34):
but he was the best, you know, I don't know.
I just think that's great.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I thought Benny said it so well where he felt
like he was a part of the family.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes, I think that's such a good call because I
that's one of those things where you're here and you're
just like, yes, I also feel that way, and never
thought of it that, you know, exact way, but yeah,
totally with you. I have since watched like Uncle Buck
and stuff, so tell.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You that we So we had watched Uncle Buck the
night or two before I watched The Dock, which was
so much fun.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And it was funny because I had done the same randomly,
maybe just because everyone was talking about the doc or something,
you know, that I was like, oh, I'm gonna throw
this on now, and what a delight.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
That's for sure the most adult thing that the kids
have seen so far.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Did we talk about that?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
They did pretty well. I mean I just had to
explain we don't say those things at school, not remember
that at all. I mean it's a ton but yeah,
there's the one scene at the party where like Bug
is taking.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Advantage of a young woman in that did not sit.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well with with the kiddos at all, which it shouldn't, right,
but we kind of had to talk about that and
consent and all that, and well, it's.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Just so like you feel uneasy, right even if you
don't know what's happen, you know, and your kids are
such you know, sweety pies with big feelings.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
That so that over well.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
But yeah, I immediately had Charlie call my dad and say,
it's old Buck Melano, my head's calling and he died.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So your dad loved that.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Loved also.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
By the way, sorry to go back, but yeah, yeah,
the Macaulay Culkin stuff I thought was some of my
that doc same and I never thought about I don't
know it just I was just like, oh, okay, cool,
and he said some stuff in there too, like you know,
I guess big time. I knew that, like his family

(11:44):
life wasn't great McAuley's or whatever. But when he was
like he would check on me and all that, I.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Was just like, wow, that's it was so cool the
stuff he said, the stuff mel Brooks said.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
I mean, yes, I just yeah. They were just so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And Mel's getting so old. I love him still, he's
still so great. But man totally was like males looking
old old Now.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, I mean he's he's well into his nineties, so he's.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think he's ninety five or something right. Four. Yeah, Yeah,
it was lovely. It's on Prime if.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
You want to John Candy, I like me which and
it is also the perfect title, the perfect title.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I can't wait to watch Plain Strains again. You know
this Thanksgiving? Yeah, I feel like it's going to be
again extra special. I don't know, it's just fun.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
It's great with you.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
What about streaming? Have you been streaming streaming?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah? I well, this one does actually tie in with
like a Halloween he kind of movie.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
How fun.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
I wanted to try and do that, and I did
what you did a few months ago. I went back
and I watched twenty eight days later.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Oh cool, nice.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's on Netflix. I had never seen it before either. Yeah,
the third one is also on Netflix and the second
one is on Hulu. If people are wanting to nice
to do that cool. But I was super impressed with that.
Film felt very low budget, but they still did some
really cool things, like walking through London by don't.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Understand how they did that with it being so low budget.
It's crazy early in the morning or something.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I actually just saw a thing. Yeah, it was pretty practical.
They didn't have to do much. It was just, yeah,
it was at like five in the morning, and somehow
I think they were able to kind of make it
look brighter than it was.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Sure, Sure, and maybe they did like it's a bank holidays,
you know, so there's even less people, so that was nuts.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
But yeah, Killian Murphy, Naomi Harris, Brendan Gleese, and I
didn't even know he was in it going into it,
so that was awesome. It was it was great. I
liked it a lot, and I mean it's it's very scary,
you know. There were times where they're like having to

(14:08):
do something before they can run away, and you're like,
come on, get it, just come on. It was really
well done. I was glad. I watched it to check
out the other ones as well.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's a great I see why they made you know
more and like why people love it so much. Yeah
with you, that's.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Great And that is on Netflix if you're wanting to
check it out. Have you streamed?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Uh? Yeah, well I was actually going to use that
one for my streamer just because it was on Prime,
but so I went to a movie theater. I'm just
gonna swap them.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I saw the film Good Fortune, the new Disease Vehicle.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yes, how was that?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Uh? Keanu Reeves is in it and he is just
an absolute delight. I love that guy so much. Yep,
there's a ton of gurry people in it. Disease is
in it. Actually, se we'll say that again.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Is Seth Rogan and I see three of them on
Yes podcast all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, that's the other. That's the other big big guy
is a Rogan.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Because I've seen nothing about this, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Uh, Seth is really funny, of course, he always is
really fun The shtick is that Keanu is like a
he's sort of a lesser angel. He's actually the angel
of helping people avoid texting and driving accidents and okay,
he sort of gets out over his skis and uh

(15:33):
and metals in the Life of Disease because he's just
having trouble, you know, with employment and things like that. Uh,
and silliness ensues. Basically, it was an interesting movie, as
he's wrote and directed it as well, which I didn't
know going into it. Yeah, I thought he got some
really cool shots. I thought the premise was really interesting.

(15:54):
He I think he's been a better actor before this.
I don't really love his acting in this.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
It just felt power.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
It felt really like it felt like someone doing an
impression of him, kind of you know, where he was
just like everything he's in sounds like this, which for
the jokes is really really funny, but then for the
other parts it just felt a little I don't know
one notey, but he was so good and that Master's
a nun show that yeah, you know. I feel like
if I hadn't seen that, i'd have been like, yeah,

(16:23):
it was great, But since I saw him do other stuff,
I was kind of like, I don't know, so it
wasn't amazing, But I did have a really good time.
And there are some parts of it that are so
funny because all those people are so funny, So it's
definitely worth watching for sure. I don't know if it's
not like a huge, crazy, bombastic movies, I don't think
you need to see it enough to eater necessarily on

(16:45):
a plane would work great, you know, or streaming at
whatever point that happens.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
But I did like it.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I didn't love that, I guess.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
As sure, but it was fun. It's also pretty great
disease impression, buddy, that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, it was a good one.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm gonna keep that. I'll do that for the Terrible
Impression game if we ever do that again. Yep.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, if you did a lisp in there, it might
be a little wall of shawnee, but sure. But yeah,
pretty good, pretty good.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'm gonna listen back to that. I didn't even know
I had my back pocket.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I've watched a lot of disease though, so it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
But it does.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, it was a fun movie, though. I don't people
to get the wrong oppression. It just kind of thought
it would be like amazing, and it was like fre good.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Was all right? Yeah, and that's fine.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
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Speaker 5 (18:26):
We call it our podcast and chillll version.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
That's pretty sexy. A lot of times we'll do a
top five draft that pertains to the movie we're talking
about this one, haven't done it before. Crazy five scariest movies.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
The sexiest topic we could pick, which was the scariest movies?
Are you ready to be titilated? Come on over? Yeah,
that's right, titillated.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Okay, you sure did?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ah, that will be really fun. Uh. Yeah, I can't
believe we've never done scariest movies. I mean maybe I can.
I guess we don't love Yeah, you're right now. That
was dumb thing to say. You're right. I mean, I'm
dumb scared.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
But you've been watching so many lately. Yeah, you're in
your horror movie phase.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Bro, I don't. It's not my favorite era I've ever
been a part of. I missed the rom com era.
Can we make more of those? The problem horror movies,
for whatever reason, are the movies they are? They are
just chucking those out every other minute in.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
The Yeah, those and you know, superhero movies.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Those are only things that are selling.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Truth. Yeah, it's wild, but we're here to talk about
a horror film today. Perhaps one of the scariest, The
Exorcism of Emily Rose.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Rob I know, Rob was like, we should.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Do a Halloween movie, and he was like, oh, this
movie was terrifying. I want you to have to watch it.
Is what he actually said to me, I want you
to have.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
To watch it.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
This has haunted my dreams for the last twenty years.
I want you to also feel now that I feel.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Let me protect you, my sweet friend, from also experiencing this. No, no,
come with me, Come come along.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You'll enjoy it. I loved our texts back and forth.
What did I say to you?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Did I do something to wrong you in some way?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Have I angered you? Rob? But this is a when
did this come out? I'm prepared.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
It's twentieth, twentieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Honestly, I've always heard that it's one of the scariest
movies ever, so it was. I watched it, Rob. Do
you want to hit us? Though? With a rough SYNOPSI
I would love to.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
The Reverend Moore is prosecuted for the wrongful death of
a girl thought to be demonically possessed because he administered
the church sanctioned exorcism that ultimately killed her. Prosecuting attorney
Ethan Thomas contends that the young woman, Emily, suffered from
schizophrenia and should have been medically diagnosed. Meanwhile, defense lawyer

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Aaron Brunner Grews agreed argues that Emily's condition cannot be
explained by science alone.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Ooh, I like it? Nice? Yes, well read ah, what
did Let's go to? Rotten to mones wasn't great? To say,
it wasn't great. Critics had it at a rock solid
forty six percent.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I was very surprised by Get.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Actually, I really was surprised by it, and I didn't
dive in to see what these reviewers were saying was
so bad about it, But I am. I am actually
surprised by that.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Like I can get if you don't want to watch
it or you don't like it, but it's not like
it was super crazy, poorly.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Made anything, right, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I don't either.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I'm with you, so I don't know if you were
really there were a couple like, I mean, we can
get into it later, but just a couple kind of cheesy,
expositionally like things. Absolutely, but to make it a forty
six is pretty pretty nuts in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, the guy getting hit by the car was dumb.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
That and there was just some There's one line in
it that just always took me out, just when they're
explaining the prosecuting attorney. It's like he's a man of faith,
and we know all this stuff, right, But then one
guy's like, he's no choir boy in the courtroom though, I'll.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Tell you that much. That's like straight out of NCIS
or something.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
It was bad.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was really bad.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I love that in the court room.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
But to make it forty six percent, I think is
not Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
The only thing I could think. And again, I didn't
research this at all, so I'm going to now share
my opinion. But maybe like they copied other horror films
of the past or something maybe that I don't but
I don't know enough about it to say same same
I couldn't either. Any who's that's what they had. Let's
hear what we think. It's time for our hot take.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Hot take.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's a hot take.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
That's a hot take.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Oh, the power.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Of Christ compels you.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It burns the skin. Yeah, if you're a demon, of course,
of course, obviously, I guess I'll go first, go first.
I don't like scary movies generally speaking, although I will say,
and I think this is maybe partly the reason I've
been watching more of them. I've realized it's not it's

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not like I get crazy scared while I'm watching them.
I just don't like that discomfort feeling. Sure, you know,
we're just like why are you doing this to me?
But it also can be kind of fun if you
embrace it a little bit. There is definitely several of
those moments in this movie. I will say this is

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not the scariest movie I've ever seen, because it's like
attached to a courtroom drama, and I feel I feel
very safe there, you know. Yes, yes, I was like, oh, okay,
well we're back in the courtroom. Yes there will be
unsettling things, but it's not like her, you know, posed
on the floor next to the bed when he wakes
up or whatever that terrifying nonsense was. Yeah, so I

(24:40):
enjoyed it. Okay, this movie, I do think they like.
One of my tepid takes is like, well, I bet
lawyers hate this movie, like this probably drives them nuts
because I don't think it's very well reasoned or inaccurate
depiction of what a court case would look like, you
know what I mean, just from all the comments they

(25:03):
make and all that weird stuff. But yeah, I thought
there was some really great performances in this which I
was I wasn't expecting. And we'll get into that with
some of the acting stuff, but some great performances, some
great camera shots, and like really effective use of like score,
which horror movies are always so good at, you know,

(25:23):
like the folly work and all that stuff. And it
was it was genuinely unsettling at various points for sure.
The yeah, I don't know, the demonic stuff always hits
me a little different than like a monster movie, and
not better or worse, just like I don't know, you know,

(25:43):
like it's it's a different kind of thing. But yeah,
I what is my hot take? I should have saved
the lawyer thing. This movie is not one I'm gonna
watch again. Chronic rewatcher and that won't be happening today.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
That's a hot take.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
That's my That is a hot take.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's all I got. What do you think?

Speaker 5 (26:05):
What's your hot take? My hot take?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
This was just the scariest movie for me. It messed
me up when it came out twenty years ago because.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
You saw it in theaters, right.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I don't remember if I sat in the theater or
I would have been still up in Duluth, I think,
I don't. Yeah, I don't remember exactly, but I remember
at the time I took a pretty big, like deep
dive to learn about who this really happened to, because
that's based creepier that it is based on a real

(26:41):
story that happened. It was more like I think it
was in the seventies, sure, but I just found that
crazy that it was based on a true story. This
was written and directed by Scott Derrickson, who he's got
a lot of credits in the horror genre. He did
the last Urban Legend film. He did the movie Sinister,

(27:02):
the Black Phone, and it's a sequel. That's I think
it just came out.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I never did you watch The Black Phone? No? I
never did either.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I know I watched very few horror movies, but I
have heard that that is really good. And then randomly
he wrote and directed Doctor Strange. He has all these
horror credits and then Doctor Strange.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah. I had a very similar take to you. I
I really enjoyed the half courtroom drama, half horror film
because I wasn't freaking out half the time. Again, I
thought the score by Christopher Young was really effective. Like
you said, I also thought the cinematography added so much
to make it so much more.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Intense, with like the dizzy point of view.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Shots, all the all the shaky handheld stuff during the
actual exorcism. It just created so much more suspense and intensity.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Agreed that the actors are all great. Thought they casted
very well. Yeah, I just think this movie is terrifying.
It was really well done. H If I ever wake
up at three am on the dot, it messes me up,
and it has ever since.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I get that dude done that yet, so thank god.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
But our buddy Jarrett, he he's one of the more
religious guys that I know this movie. Really I remember.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I remember I was talking about that and being like,
I get that right, if that's in your wheelhouse, you know,
more like, of course that's good.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
He had a really hard time with this movie and
it's stuck with him for literal years anyway, so that
probably exactly it.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Did not So.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah. One of my hot takes is that charae Adashlu,
who played is doctor o'donni, has the coolest voice in
the history of that voice in the world.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
And she's been in so many things, so many things
over the years. She was in twenty four one season,
which sure was Yeah, she was in the House of
san and Fog I think she was.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Up for awards for that.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I never watched that, but yeah, best she was on
the stand talking just like I could listen to you
all day.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Talk about anything too, anything.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, she's got the coolest voice.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's a great call. I love that.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
That was my hottest take.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I love it, hot take. Well, should we go and
talk about our favorite acting performance? Shall we name the
dude the dude? I'm the dude, So that's what you
call me, you know that?

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Or his dude or duder or you know eldudo reno
if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
First, I'll go first. Yeah, Jennifer Carpenter is Emily Rose.
She makes this film.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
She was insane.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
She's so incredibly good in this how she's able to
contort her body, but not only her body, the facial
expressions that she was able to do, and like I
can't even recreate it. Yeah, it's crazy, it's unbelievable. She
absolutely seemed possessed and then just this stark contrast to

(30:32):
her being this sweet, mild mannered college student. I mean,
she was absolutely incredible. This movie wouldn't be nowhere near
as good if you didn't have somebody give that much
to the role.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
In fact, like she's so good because she's who I
picked as well. She's so good. I almost like overlooked
her for this for the dude, because I was like, oh, well,
that girl just possessed like right, it's about everyone else reacting.
I was like, well, no, idiot, she's acting, you know,
like I don't know, I.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Thought, unbelievable, so good, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
You heard, Yeah, everything about her. She was just wonderful
at it, like her and she had to scream like
crazy scary, like silent scream thing that was very off putting. Yeah,
it's everything about she was amazing. She was so good.
I kind of why wouldn't a part like that get

(31:34):
nominated for awards and stuff, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Like, she's great in this.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
She was incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I guess because critics say this movie, maybe it's the answer.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I wonder if that has changed over time or I
feel like it was not critically horrible when it came out.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I don't really remember at all. I don't think I
was tracking it at that point.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, but I had watched like a behind the scenes
thing when this came out.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I was so into this movie when it came out, just.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
And I like, I think they maybe on the DVD
had like a you know, behind bonus footage whatever and
like interviewing everybody. And so Laura Lenny did a play
with her in college, not in college, like on Broadway,
and was like she was she was the one that

(32:26):
brought to the director like I think this person would
be incredible for and I mean, yeah, like I feel
like Laura Lennie deserves a ton of or something.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Doing well.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
And I think she even I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
She's directed a couple of things. She directed one episode
of Black Rabbit actually because of the Jason Bate thing,
but she also recommended the prosecuting attorney because she's done
Broadway plays with Campbell Scott.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah, she casted this movie.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, that's pretty wild. It did make me wonder. I
hope she's been doing this Jennifer Carpenter. I hope she's
been doing Broadway and just acting jobs and stuff, because
she's so good and I feel like and I did
miss Admittedly I never watched Dexter, and she was in
like six episodes of that.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
She's like the main it's it's I didn't realize Michael C.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Hall and her, so I guess she.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Has been working a big time.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
I think she's on a primetime show right now too.
I think that's cool. Yeah, but she did really she
did well for herself. Fun on Dexter.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
That's good to hear. But yeah, she's my dude.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
She was excellent, excellent.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, let's let's set up some of the other supporting
roles and let's let's pick that too, GM.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Funny, you go first, buddy.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I'm just gonna go easy. Laura Lenny.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I almost picked her for dude. Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
She's probably the lead in this movie.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I think that's right, right, Yeah, she's gotta have the
most lines. I thought she was great as this sort
of like bombastic, you know, up and coming lawyer who's
just like a badass. She's great when the doubt comes
into her eyes about the case and you know, like
she starts experiencing some of her own stuff. She's great

(34:25):
in that. I think she's just wonderful in this movie.
I thought she was spectacular in this role. Man. It
was just really fun to see her in it. I
don't know, I loved everything she brought to it. She
pulled off, the lawyer, she pulled off being scared, she
pulled off like all of it. It's really great.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah, So I have you gone back and seen Primal
Fear yet?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
I haven't wait. Which one's Primal Fear.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
That's the first Ed Norton movie I did watch, So
she's the she's the attorney in that. She's the prosecutor
in that one. So we know that she plays a
good lawyer and she she did a great job with
that in this as well. I would have also picked
her for that huge My runner up would have been
Tom Wilkinson, who I've always enjoyed ever since I first

(35:13):
saw him in Shakespeare in Love. I just I just
have always thought he's a tremendous actor. He seems like
such a wise and compassionate man, especially in this role.
He also has like a really calming voice I've noticed, agreed,
which also works really well for this role. So yeah,

(35:37):
I thought he was he was really wonderful in this.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, he just he always seems to be like kind
of in control, even if he's not, you know. Yeah, Yeah,
he's really great. I love that. I had a show
Ray as well, who you said has that amazing voice.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
The coolest voice of all time.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I really liked that Henry Zournie guy as well. Well, yeah,
he was in.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
The first mission impossible.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, that's what I wrote down, and he was what
was he He was one of the first witnesses, right, basically.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah, he was like the doctor. That's what I'm saying
that I thought that she had epilepsy.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
And that's right.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I just thought he was really great in this. I
think he's a pretty fantastic actor anyway, to be honest. Yeah,
but yeah, I really liked him in this. I thought
that was really fun.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well in Campbell Scott, who is a really really good actor,
really great. I think he does a lot of stage stuff, yeah,
but very solid as the prosecuting attorney.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
He's no choir boy in the court room.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I did kind of want them to flesh out his
part a little bit more, but.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
They kept going on about how he was like so
like a man of faith and just say, we're just
supposed to take that at its word, And I.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Guess that was just to like put her into juxtaposition
of him, right, like I guess, but yeah, I don't know.
I was like a little more would have been good
from him from the writing not he was a great
I agree his acting, which was great, I thought, so yeah, yeah,
And did you see the assistant da was Chief from

(37:12):
Battlestar Galactica. Aaron Douglas is his name, and he he
doesn't say anything, I don't think turn the whole movie,
but he was there and I was like, man, that
guy looks familiar. What is he from? And I was like, oh, yeah,
that's Chief.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
That's crazy. Okay, So yeah I didn't watch that.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I just thought that was wild. Oh you never watched that.
I thought you got into that. I guess. Yeah, you know,
like so far, why did you watch that? I mean
not really anyway?

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, who else was good?

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Colem Fiori is the only one I wrote that. Boss
just played kind of a what you would expect to be,
like the lawyer type, kind of a d bag. Yeah,
you know, like, you did so good. I'm gonna if
you do well on this one, then you can be
you can be partner. But if you screw up at all,

(38:05):
then I'm going to fire you.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, just like, okay, we get it. Imagination there. Yeah, yeah,
everyone else I thought was fine? Yeah, yeah, I love it?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
All right, cool, let's move on to our favorite.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Scene, and let's choose the Dingus soda.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Is quite simple, really, Dingus Dingus. I could talk about
my Dingus all night long. You want to go first.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
So it's tough for me.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Because there's kind of two scenes.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm going to say just the exorcism bit, just because yeah,
I mean that's the crux of the movie, right, And
I like how it starts off with they play the
tape in the courtroom and then they recreate it.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Right, that was really fun. That was a fun way,
Like it felt very immersive, you know, to go in
that way.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Yeah, And just that exorcism is so scary.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's it's really something.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
They have her in restraints, she immediately gets out of
the one restraint.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
It took nothing.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, beats up on her. Should have done a better
job with those, but.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, yeah, yep, should have maybe maybe spent another another
week in boy Scouts learning the knots. Maybe no doubt,
but that that was scary. And then her just creepily
running and jumping out of the window face she makes
right before.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
So scary.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Then they go into the barn and the barn is
terrifying everything in there, making these crazy screechy noises so
that the horses all freak out. We get snakes and
rats and all these things that are like wanting to
check what's happening. But just her then being possessed by

(40:07):
these six demons, we find out pretty cool. And all
of the dialogue between the father and he is so nuts.
It's crazy. And the faces and the dilated pupils and
the lightning and just I mean, I was.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
It's so scary nuts, it's so scary. Imagine being in
that for like a month filming, you know what I mean? Yeah,
yu yuck, crazy, yeah with you.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
So that's kind of I think that's gotta be it.
But what do you think.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
That's a really hard one to beat. I like the
first time, it's the first time, and it's where she's
sitting in the classroom taking the test, and it's kind
of the first time we see her having the like
the black stuff coming from people's eye all scary, which

(41:04):
is so just creepy and weird. Yeah, and then she
like freaks out and runs and then she goes into
that church and we get to see her, like the
boyfriend follows her. We see her eyes do the dilaight thing,
like you said, which was such a cool shot to
see that, you know, in real time or whatever. I

(41:25):
just loved that whole, like a little vignette. I thought
that was really really well done. It was unsettling, but
it was so cool looking. And yeah, just all those people,
like the and seeing the face and then on the
class and like.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, super scary, very scary. The second scariest part
for me in the movie is the dorm room scene
where she like wakes up at three she you know,
thinks something's burning. She goes down the hallway, we get
the jump scary with the door, yeah, which is so scary.

(42:02):
Then she goes back to sleep. She starts seeing her
little pen cup shaking and then goes to the floor.
Then but all the stuff they did to make it
seem like this thing was on top of.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Her that was like pushing down, pushing her down onto
the bell crazy and like making it so that.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
She couldn't breathe that was so terrifying. And the noise
that she makes when the thing finally releases her, Yeah,
she just did such an incredible job in that.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
It's such like a guttural sounder, ye what it is.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
It's like she's trying to breathe, but she's also so upset. Yeah,
like in shock crying running.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's just yeah, so nuts that scene is. And it's
so like horror movies doing that stupid like the end
of a hallway, a door just keeps banging it. I'm
just like, I hate you. I hate you so much
for doing this to know, why do you do this?
A lot of jump scares in this movie. Totally. Yeah,
that scene is great. Uh, I will say that. I

(43:10):
think the scariest part for me was, uh when the
boyfriend is like I think it's actually at the end
of the scene I was talking about, they like he
goes and like lays with her until she falls asleep basically,
and then he falls asleep.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
He wakes up, she's not there.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
But she is like crazy position with her head all
and just like frozen staring at him. That scared the
hell out of me.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Well then the scream and the scream, yes, the scream
is just that really put.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
It over the curdling. I yeah, I that freaked me
out so bad that I get that. Yeah, and really,
you know, hard to do him, but I have well
you know this, I am prone to some like sleep
talking and sleep walking, especially in my older days. But

(44:02):
I've just I've had moments where I wake up and
don't know what's going on until you like come to
your wits, you know, to think that you could wake
up and see someone staring at you like that. That
freaks me.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Yeah, that's scary.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I didn't like that. Oh no, I'll tell you one thing.
I'm not going to make sure she's okay. I'm deassing
or beating someone to death because I'm scared. Yeah, I
am not brave, is what I will tell you right now.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I mean that that is so scary. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And every time the demon talks, I really like. That's
the part of like the demon scary movie stuff that
I really like is the like demon talking and when
you get into like the dogmatic like we are the
one who was with you know, all that stuff. I
thought it was really cool. But I'm cool picking the
exorcism scene. I mean that's.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah for me, it's between the exorcism scene in that
dorm room when she's first Yeah, really deal, Well.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Let's just let's pick them both, because I do it.
I never want to think about this movie again after this,
So let's do it, right, all right. I like them
both for sure.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Love it. It's been chosen.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I love it. Let's go talk about some quotes. Now,
it's time to show me the money.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Shoot me the money, show me.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
I don't have a lot for this one. Yeah, should go.
He's no choir boy in the courtroom.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
That's your favorite one, right, it's I just wrote that
a dozen times because I love it. I love when
the priest first meets her and intern the demon and
you think you can force me out, priest, I dare
you to try.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
I was likely in Latin, presumably.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah. I loved that line a lot.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I was like, oh, okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, like, all right, we're really doing this.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Did you have subtitles?

Speaker 5 (46:13):
I don't think I had subtitles.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
On this one that I last watched.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Oh interesting, Where did I watch it? I watched it
on Hulu. Yeah it had, it had yellow subtitles. Okay,
when it was in the other languages, I.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Don't think I did have that.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Oh interesting, I did when it was it would say
like in Latin maybe or something at the end when
the big one all of the voices are coming out
with that.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't think it did. In that
first one.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I did I did in that first one.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, yeah, weird.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
That that big one was one of my favorite ones,
unless you want to say it for I love that
we are the ones who dwelt within. I am the
one who dwelt with Caine, and I am the one
who dwelt with Nero. I once dwelt with you, Dus,
I was within legion. I am by Lala, and I
am Lucifer, the devil in the flesh, the devil in

(47:08):
the flesh. And that was really fun because I didn't
get all the languages, but it was like there was
some German in there for a hot minute. There was
like presumably like Hebrew or Latin in there too, you know,
there was just a bunch of things. I think air
make was in there. I think I read that at
some point in the thing. But it was cool to
have her go. Also really hard to deliver that line

(47:31):
in all these you know, I don't know. She was great,
as we've said. And then my last one, which is
a fun one and then I'll let you do some
is just they're talking about when they did the exorcism
and he's like, you did it on Halloween, isn't that
a bit dramatic. I liked that. Yeah, that was fun.

(47:53):
How about you what you got for quit?

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Another really creepy one when she is possessed, dolls in
and crosses and wishes you think that can save your
little girl?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, that was creepy.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
That was in German, apparently wild the Yeah, and I
am Lucifer the devil in the flesh. Just so scary
how she said it when they haven't. I don't think
she's jumped out the window yet. She's still on the bed. Yeah,
and he's doing the Lord's prayer and she screams.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Out, deliver us from me.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Oh my god, dude. So scary. Yeah. I liked the
objection on what grounds? How about silliness? You're on her?
That was good When he is cross examining, uh, the

(48:56):
coolest voiced lady in the whole world, and she's just like,
that's quite a laundry list of disdain. I liked that.
That was pretty great. You are guilty fathermore, and you
are free to go. I thought it was pretty great.

(49:17):
It has begun, let us pray, Yeah, sick yep. And
then just I thought it was kind of cool the
end of her he's reading her letter to h to
the courtroom and it kind of ends with people say
that God is dead, but how can they think that

(49:37):
if I show them?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, that is pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah yeah that was all I had.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Love it. Uh, I don't think I had any other ones.
I think that's all. That's all I have.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
It's gonna be moments. This is so hard for me
because I was just so scared. I don't think I
cried much, even though I could see that there are
times that somebody may have cried because it's it's horrible,
it's a tragedy, what is happening, but it's so scary.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, can I tell you like, I did something different
for this one because there was no cries. There was none.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Okay, cool?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Because that I did too is I wrote down some
moments that just made me say, yeah, yeah, I have
some of those moments.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
Yeah, let's hear those.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, are the scene where she's in her dorm and
the demon versus attacks and there's like the hallway at
the slamming door.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I don't like it. I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I'm not going to keep saying that because I don't
want to do the work. I get you. It's not
because I'm against it morally. I just am lazy. Yes,
the test scene, it just felt like the moments where
I was like, no, thank you were cry moments in
other movies. I get that. I get that. The test
scene after she's possessed in the doctor's office and she

(50:58):
goes into the church and all that up.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
No thank you, no thank you, no thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
When Laura Lenny wakes up at three am and smells burning, no,
no thank you, and the door is open, the doors open,
some real brimstone stuff. Don't like that. No thank you,
thank you, daddy, thank you when he wakes up and
she's catatonic in that weird position when the boyfriend wakes
up thing. No no, no, no no. Uh, we didn't even

(51:27):
say this. When her sister goes in, she's like knocking
at the door and she goes in. She's doing all
the bugs and scratching the wall and stuff. No thank you, dude.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
It does look like she just scratches.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I don't know how they did that so effectively. Do
you think they like put like little nails on her
hand or something. I don't know. Yeah, it worked so
well though. She also when Laura Lenny is Uh. She's
awakened again at three am and the audio is playing
from the tape recorder in the living room.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Oh, no, thank you, no thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
And then I just I wrote pretty much the rest
of the movie no thing well.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
And when the spirit Uh comes to the father in
the jail cell and he like starts praying, we just
see just a little bit of it.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
No, yeah, dude, thank you, so no boohos. But at
least six or seven no thank you. So there's that.
I get that.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
That's all I can. Man, nice, let's see movie ture Ribia.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
We talked about Laura. Lenny Uh had done a play
with Jennifer Carpenter and recommended her, but also Jennifer Carpenter's
audition was so convincing and scary that the director decided
to cast her on the spot. I guess boom, so
good for her and also stay away from me. To
prepare for the role, she spent hours in a room

(52:57):
full of mirrors and she tried out just like different
body physicians and all those crazy facial expressions that you said,
just to see what was the scariest. That work paid off,
because she was incredibly good. She was in the worst way.
We sort of mentioned this, but I'll just go into
it a little bit more. This is based on Annalise Michael,

(53:19):
a young German woman who suffered a similar fate to
the fictional Emily Rose in the nineteen seventies. You were
right about that, and the book was the Exorcism of
Annalise Michel Michael. On account of the subsequent court case
by expert witnesses, Felicitas Goodman, an anthropologist called in as

(53:41):
an expert on possession, and then she wrote the book.
After that, her parents and two priests who performed her
exorcism were prosecuted, although the prosecution asked that the parents
be excused as they had suffered enough, which makes sense
and seems very unfair to me. I don't know that

(54:02):
seems weird. But ultimately the accused were found guilty of
manslaughter resulting from negligence, and the two clergymen were sent
in to six months in jail and three years of probation.
The most significant differences in the stories were that Michelle
periodically fasted for several months as part of her exorcism

(54:24):
and remained on the medication until her death, while the
fictional Rose was incapable of eating due to the forces,
and then decided herself to stop taking the medication. I
guess they felt like they needed that for a little
more of like a smoking gum that he did something wrong.
Either way, I kind of deal, I guess, But they
do say the story was heavily adapted for cinematic purposes,

(54:47):
but still scary.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
It was scary.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
The silent scream helped Jennifer Carpenter get the role. Apparently
she did that in her audition and he was like,
that was awful. Please don't. I mean, we want you
to do that, but don't do it in front of me. Ever, again,
this is crazy. The jury, the people sitting in the jury,
the actors were not given scripts, so they weren't aware

(55:15):
of how the case would turn out. And when the
judge asked them at the end how they would find fathermore,
the decision was split, so that's kind of fun. Interesting
they made They made like actual dolls constructed, which was
really cool. There was two of them constructed for this movie.

(55:36):
The first was where Emily Rose would like lock her limbs,
and the other was for the dorm scene when she's
on the floor. They ultimately didn't use it in the
dorm scene because she struck a pose. She was very flexible,
I guess, and how she contorted her body they thought
was just as scary, if not scarier, than what they

(55:57):
would have got with the dummy. So I thought that
was terrifying. And in the church when she does that
like backbend thing, they had her harness to like make
it look even crazier, which worked. It looked really cool
and it's gay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
In the the behind the scenes thing they go through
all that, Oh that's cool, they actually showed the harness
and how she's able to bend back that far.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I will say, if I was making movies, making a
horror movie, it would be fun because you get to
play a lot with like stuff like that. So I
bet that's really a cool time for sure. Emily's bedroom
and the scratches on the wall were based directly on
a painting by Francis Bacon, which I thought was really interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Mmmm Bacon Love Love Francis.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Laura Lenny recommended, Oh no, we already said that anytime
something bad or ghostly is about to happen, there's a
purple glow somewhere, usually purple light emanating from window I
didn't pick up on that. I thought that was pretty cool.
I didn't either, didn't didn't do that. I can after
I was like, oh, yeah, I guess there was weird
purple happened in the round. I just thought Prince was there.

(57:05):
During the exorcism scene, when Father Moore asked for the
six names of the spirits dwelling and Emily, only two
actually reveal their names, Lucifer and Bellial. I'm probably not
saying that right, but the other four only say the
names of people with whom they've dwelled. Lucifer is commonly
identified as the devil in Christianity and is synonymous with

(57:28):
Satan in modern day Christianity, but historically they were two
separate entities who worked together. And Belliol or Billiel is
known as the Prince of Virtues who tempts men with
arrogance and women with vanity. So that was kind of
interesting knowing their backstory. And doctor Cartwright was supposed to

(57:50):
have a heart attack, but the studio wanted his death
to be more draadic, so they went through with that car.
Him getting hid by the car I thought was kind
of cheesy.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
It was kind of cheesy. Yeah, his whole role was
kind of cheesy.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I agree with that. I didn't buy that a ton. Yeah,
that was all I had. I don't know if you had.
I liked no.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
I liked the idea of somebody being like, hey, I
don't want anything to do with this.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
I was there to help you out.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
I liked.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I liked that.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
But then yeah, pretty much everything after that was kind
of a bummer. But yeah, I didn't have anything else
for for trivia Sammy's yeah judgment. Will there be a sequel?

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Judgment A No, probably not.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
There's no chance.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
It's the Exorcism a sequel. I still have never seen
that prequel.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
No, let me, it's just another exorcism.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, have you ever seen that? I saw?

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Oh yeah, scary. It's terrifying. No, thanks like that thing.
It's still messed up. However, many years later, No, thank you?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Did he knew?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Well?

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Uh, you want to play game?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah? I mean sent out a.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Thing on on X and we'll see if people have
gotten back to us for a last man Stanton, and
we we just have our.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Good buddy Marcia.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Marcia.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Marcia gave us two options, and I think we haven't
used either one of these. Well, let me just double check.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
We haven't used either one of these actors.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
I think it'll be a quick game with either one.
Maybe maybe let's do it. We have the actors Jude Law, okay,
and Hugh Grant. I feel like I could do better
on Hugh Grant. I feel like that one could go

(59:56):
a little bit further than Jude Law.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I'm with you. I don't think I'll do great on
either either.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Yeah, but we can say we've done these actors, which
is pretty exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Uh, yeah, I'm cool. Let's let's do Hugh then if
you feel.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I mean, I think yeah, I think I can definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Do more with with.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Him then mm hmm. But maybe it's probably about the
same whatever you think that we can do for sure,
I was writing down, let's do Hugh.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Do you do you want me to start? Yes, Marsha,
you're the best.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Mars I know I'd like to start because I can't.
I'm not gonna last very long. Notting Hill, notting Hill,
It's great. Nice, that's a great one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
That's a great one. I'm gonna do. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
He did one by one of my favorite authors, Nick
horn be uh and it was a movie called about
a boy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Oh that is a great movie. YEA good call. Why
am I having a hurt time thinking? What this one's
called The Gentleman? He wasn't that right?

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Yeah? Yeah he was good in that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
I really liked him in that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I think we both did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Actually, Yeah, one that I have not seen because it
looked very scary scary.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
It just came out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
It was called like Heretic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah it is Haretic. Yeah, yeah, that did look scary.
Actually I watched I watched it. I don't remember now
if I watched it or not pretty memorable? Then well, Jath,
what's the other one that I watched? They both came
out at the same ash time and it No, that's
a different one. Not think I ever saw Heretic. It
looks scary though, I'm with.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
You, dude. Yeah, he looked really creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Isn't he like he like captures someone or something scary?

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Yeah, I'm assuming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, that's a lot. It's a lot, Paddington, I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Brilliant Smat. I'll go with another kid's movie. I'll pick
one ca oh cook, I forgot he was in that.
Yeah he's the Yeah, I like that a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
How about Love? Actually?

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Yeah, I didn't write that one down.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Just popped into my head and I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
That's ridiculous. Let's do four weddings in a few in
a roll one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
All right, all right? I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Is it him in uh what is that called that
Sandy B movie?

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Nine months or something? Oh yeah he is in nine months?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
That's not what Sandy that's not Sandy b Am I
conflating that with a different one. Oh okay, yep, well
I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Say nine months, nine months that was him and Julianne Moore.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Oh yeah, that was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
What's the there's Sandy B one.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Sandy B one is called two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Notice it was also a time frame it was. That's
not what happened. I just forgot Yeah two weeks notice.
Yeah that's a fun movie. I like that one. Okay,
what else do we.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
I only have two more? That's I can't think of
any anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I know he's been in just so many things. Yeah,
I'm not doing well.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
I feel like I didn't see I think maybe he
did like some proper British ones back, you know, like
kind of period totally stuff that I can't I can't think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Of any of those adaptation of some sort of right, yeah, totally.
I don't know what they are.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Yeah, I can't picture any of the ally.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I feel like he was in an animated one too,
but I don't know was he in sing for some reason?
I know he's not in sang. I think I might
be out. Yeah, I'm just gonna say I'm out. I
can't think of anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
The one that I thought you would get because it
was a really fun rom como was him and Drew Barrymore.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Oh yeah, the harmony music and lyrics music.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
I really, I really liked that is a great one
in the end, in that sweet apartment that he's got
with like the big piano in there and stuff. Yep,
that's a good call. And the only other one that
I could think of was one with he did with
Gene Hackman that was not very good a long time ago,
called Extreme Measures.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
And whenever whenever Hugh Grant comes up on like those
movie Grid or whatever games, I always do Extreme Measures
because nobody knows that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
But other than that, dude, I I feel like he's
been working a lot more recently, and I just haven't
been seeing the things that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
You've seen me, Oh Bridget, don't Bridget Jones?

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Oh sure, yeah, probably all of those right in Dungeons
and Dragons, Honor Amongst Thieves. I was like, he's been
a bad guy in so many things lately.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
I don't even remember him in that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
That's terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
I think he's like the main bad dude, bad guy.
He was in the Glass Onion. I forgot he was
in that Operation Fortune Frosted dude, he was, he was,
he was.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
Yeah, he played like a Tony the Tiger type.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
It was so bad, so bad. Oh, yeah, you definitely
saw that Glass Onion. I forgot he was in that. Uh, definitely, Gentlemen,
we yet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
To Oh Florence Foster Jenkins. That was a great movie.
I saw one, and he was really good in it,
and so was Meryl Street and everybody's good in it.
You'd really like that movie, dude, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
It's on the list for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Apparently I watched the movie The Rewrite and I can't
remember it at all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I don't know that at all. Cloud Atlas, which I
never saw. Yeah, I didn't see that one either. Did
you hear about the Morgans. I also don't know what
that is. Two Week's Notice about a boy Mickey blue
Eyes Small.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Time Time Mickey blue Eyes. Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I don't think I saw either of those either.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Sense and Sensibility was the one piece.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Yeah. Oh and Sirens, Oh yeah, I trained to Venice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
But then, dude, all of those those I don't know
any of these other ones.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Yeah. I think that might have been like before he
came over to America or something in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I don't even like, I don't even recognize these names
of these.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
No, I using a lot using.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Before he came over here.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Well, he played Chopin Chin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
With Mandy Patinkin and Bernadette Peters. I bet that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I bet that's really good.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Oh but anyway, thank you Marcia for for giving us
Hugh grants. I will put him on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
No, dang, well we did, okay, we did, we did?

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
We should have gotten the Bridge of Jones movies probably, Yeah,
although I have never seen one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
But you mean you didn't see the sequel.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
I've never seen any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Dang, how did you miss Bridget Jones?

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
I just saw what it was about and wasn't interested
in it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
Apparently she's really to win.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
On a date or something to it. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
I didn't do that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
I didn't. I just saw it later by myself with
a pint of ice cream. I don't want to talk
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
I don't talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
No, nicely done. You will get to pick first in
our draft of scariest scary movies. Yeah, and uh yeah,
I guess uh. I don't know what's coming next. Just
the stick with us. There's tour in the holidays.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
And it's gonna be a few weeks off in the
next few weeks, so yeah, be cool, my babies, but
we'll be back and enjoy You're Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Hell yeah, Happy Halloween everyone. Yeah. That does it today
for Exorcism of Emily.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Rose's and thank you so much for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Until we talk to you next time.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Enjoy the grating.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
The sun is shining night a cloud in the sky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Some people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
On skis, but we would rather sit on down and
talk some movies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
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Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Come listen to our show. We're the evid.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
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Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
We'll do our best to excuse

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
My indoors man