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April 28, 2025 10 mins

Episode Summary:

In this episode of The Cashflow Show, host Clayton M. Coke sits down with Marion Macknonochie, Science Manager at Pukka Herbs, to explore the growing sleep crisis affecting 65% of surveyed Brits. Marion shares insights from Pukka Herbs’ research, revealing how stress, screen time, and modern lifestyles disrupt our body clock. She discusses the power of natural solutions like herbal teas, the impact of blue light, and practical tips for better sleep. From creating daily routines to leveraging white noise, this episode offers actionable advice for business professionals and anyone struggling to catch quality Z’s.


Key Discussion Points: 

  • Sleep Struggles in the UK: 65% of people, especially women, struggle to fall asleep, averaging only 6.4 hours nightly against a desired 8 hours. 
  • Causes of Poor Sleep: Work stress, overthinking, money worries, and excessive screen time disrupt the body’s internal clock. 
  • Role of Hormones: Cortisol wakes us up, while melatonin signals sleep, but modern habits like late-night screen use confuse these hormones. 
  • Natural Solutions: Herbal teas, like Pukka’s Nighttime blend, are gaining traction (34% of people use them) over habit-forming pills. 
  • Daily Routines: Consistent wake-up times, reduced caffeine, and screen-free evenings help align the body clock for better sleep. 
  • White Noise and Relaxation: Tools like white noise, calming podcasts, and meditation help overstimulated minds wind down. 
  • Pukka Herbs’ Work: Marion’s role involves blending traditional herbal knowledge with scientific research to create effective sleep aids.

Key Takeaways: 

  • Sleep deprivation is a widespread issue, impacting productivity and well-being, particularly in high-stress professions. 
  • Natural remedies, such as herbal teas, offer a gentler, sustainable alternative to sleeping pills. 
  • Aligning daily habits with the body’s natural rhythms (e.g., morning daylight exposure, limited screen time) can significantly improve sleep quality. 
  • Creating a mindful evening routine, like sipping a warm herbal tea, can signal the body to relax and prepare for rest.

Notable Quotes: 

  • “We have an internal body clock that regulates when we wake up and when we go to sleep, and that’s impacted by everything we do.” — Marion Macknonochie 
  • “Herbal teas are a go-to for 34% of us… it’s about working gently with our bodies instead of batting them over the head.” — Marion Macknonochie 
  • “We’re so overstimulated in modern life… people require distraction from their own brain to be calm.” — Marion Macknonochie

Actionable Insights for Businesses: 

  • Employee Wellness Programs: Incorporate sleep education and stress management workshops to boost productivity and reduce burnout. Offer herbal teas or relaxation tools in office break areas. 
  • Product Innovation: Businesses in the wellness sector can develop natural sleep aids, like teas or apps with calming sounds, to tap into the growing demand for non-pharmaceutical solutions. 
  • Workplace Policies: Encourage screen-free breaks and flexible schedules to align with employees’ natural body clocks, enhancing focus and efficiency. 
  • Marketing Opportunities: Brands can target overstressed professionals with campaigns promoting mindful routines, leveraging the 65% statistic to highlight the urgency of sleep solutions.

Resources: 

  • Visit pukkaherbs-sleepless-beauty.com for more on Pukka Herbs’ sleep research and Nighttime tea blend. 
  • Explore Pukka Herbs’ range of herbal teas at pukkaherbs.com
  • Learn about creating better sleep routines via trusted so
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