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September 30, 2025 26 mins

Episode Summary: Entrepreneurs face crises that test their limits but can they build resilience to thrive?
In this episode of The Cashflow Show, host Clayton M. Coke interviews Dr Rachel Doern, author of The Resilient Entrepreneur and Associate Professor at Goldsmiths, University of London. Drawing on her research from the 2011 London riots and COVID-19, and research on crises and resilience from different parts of the world Dr Rachel unpacks resilience as a dynamic process, sharing strategies to strengthen it and pitfalls to avoid.
Learn practical tools like distraction, positive reappraisal, and expectation management to navigate business setbacks and boost personal wellbeing.
Listen now to discover how to fortify your resilience and grab The Resilient Entrepreneur at Bristol University Press or Amazon!

Key Discussion Points

  • Defining Resilience: Resilience is a learnable process, not just a trait, involving adjustments to attention, thinking, and resources to recover from crises (02:16–03:13).
  • Book Overview: The Resilient Entrepreneur uses the 2011 London riots to explore how entrepreneurs build resilience through strategies and avoid vulnerabilities (01:47–02:46).
  • London Riots Context: The 2011 riots, sparked by Mark Duggan’s death, impacted 22 of 32 London boroughs, with small businesses looted or burned, shaping Doern’s research (05:29–06:25).
  • Resilience Strategies: Chapters 2–8 cover strengthening strategies like distraction, positive reappraisal, and expectation management; Chapters 9–11 address pitfalls like denial (09:18–11:59).
  • Distraction Tactics: Healthy distraction (e.g., sports, learning new skills) shifts focus from crisis stress, while unhealthy “big D” distraction (e.g., substance use) numbs emotions (13:24–14:19).
  • Positive Reappraisal: Reframing setbacks, like riot victims seeing opportunities in rebuilding, fosters long-term resilience (14:48–15:42).
  • Expectation Management: Tempering optimism with realistic goals reduces disappointment and regulates emotions during uncertainty (16:10–17:33).
  • Positive Self-Talk: Grounded, evidence-based affirmations (e.g., recalling past successes) boost confidence, unlike unrooted manifestation (18:02–19:45).
  • Entrepreneurship Perception: The term “entrepreneur” should include everyday small business owners, not just high-profile figures like Elon Musk (20:15–22:35).
  • Book’s Purpose: Aims to share actionable resilience tools, inspire broader audiences, and highlight global crisis management research (23:04–23:59).

Key Takeaways

  • Resilience is a dynamic, learnable process involving mental and practical adjustments, not just an innate trait.
  • The 2011 London riots revealed how entrepreneurs recover through strategies like distraction and reappraisal, offering lessons for any crisis.
  • Healthy distraction and positive self-talk help manage immediate stress, while reappraisal and expectation management support long-term recovery.
  • Misconceptions about entrepreneurship exclude everyday business owners; resilience strategies apply to all.
  • Businesses lose £51bn annually to poor mental health—resilience tools can boost wellbeing and productivity.

Notable Quotes

  • Resilience is something you build, like a muscle... It’s about the kinds of adjustments entrepreneurs make to their attention, thinking, situation, and resources.” Rachel Doern (02:46)
  • A crisis can be big or small... Losing a key member of staff or going through a personal situation like a divorce can impact wellbeing.” Rachel Doern (03:41)
  • Some [riot victims] said, ‘Yes, it’s terrible, but at least my business wasn’t burned down. I still have the capability to move forward.’” Rachel Doern (15:14)
  • Positive self-talk is about grounding what you’re saying in reality... It’s not about staring in the mirror and just saying things over and over.” Rachel Doern (19:18)
  • The entrepreneur includes the self-employed, those who spot and exploit opportunities... not just Elon Musk.” Rachel Doern (21:14)

Actionable Insights for Businesses

  1. Practice Healthy Distraction: Encourage employees to engage in absorbing activities (e.g., team-building games) during crises to reduce stress without numbing emotions.
  2. Set Realistic Goals: Use expectation management by setting achievable milestones (e.g., securing one new client post-crisis) to maintain morale and avoid disappointment.
  3. Reframe Setbacks: Train teams to view challenges as opportunities, like pivoting to new markets after a disruption, to foster long-term resilience.
  4. Promote Positive Sel
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