Draft Show: On the Clock

Bryan, Nick, Iisha, and Zach wrap up their coverage as the NFL Draft approaches and share their final thoughts before the Cowboys are officially on the clock.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war
room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within
the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star and Frisco.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Welcome back into the Miller Lite Dallas Cowboys Draft Show.
Very excited we are one day away? Does this feel
real now? Friends? I mean, this is like Holy Cow.
It is the night before. It is like Christmas Eve
for us, all the draft preparation, it is finally here
Aisha Morrison with us. Here, Brian brought us, Nick Harris,
I'm Zach Wilchuck Brian at somebody that's gotten to live this. Yeah,

(00:51):
Now the Hayes inthebarn as you would say, or is
there still some tinkering and maybe some nervous ticks, like
we're gonna go ahead and still have some debates and
conversations the night of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I think right now where it is is it's about
the mechanics of the draft and how you feel like
that maybe some of this might fall ahead of you
and potentially what can come from the rear of the
draft and I mean, you know, the guys down at
the bottom, the Buffalo's, the Baltimore's, the Kansas City's, the
San Francisco's. Maybe there's somebody in the top of the

(01:21):
second round that's going to come diving up there, and
you have to be prepared that if you're a guys
sitting there, that there's a possibly that you might lose
your guy. So it's very nerve wracking right now. But
they're really just working on the mechanics of how this
thing is going to fall, just like what we've been
doing with mock drafts discussions. The pro guys are working

(01:43):
the phones. You got buddies around the league that you
really trust, and maybe they're not anywhere near you on
the board, but maybe you got a friend of yours
that a team that's say fifteen spots ahead of you,
and you're like, hey, what are you hearing? Man? Okay,
and then he I remember in a draft, the Marcus

(02:03):
Ware Draft, I got on the phone with John Gruden,
who was ahead of us at Tampa, and that's when
John took Cadillac Williams, the running back from Alburn, and
I asked John, I said, Hey, if you were to
take a defensive player, who would you take? And he
said I would take where. I'm like okay, and he goes.
I think the only player he goes, The only player
that I'm hearing defensively that people would trade up for

(02:25):
in this draft is where. And so I was like, okay,
that's great information. So yeah, you're trading a lot of
information with your buddies. You're trying to get an idea
what's happening behind you. Again, it's all very very important
because you just don't want to get caught off guard that. Like,
you know, you're sitting there, everything looks comfortable, everything looks good,

(02:46):
and then all of a sudden, a curveball's thrown your
direction and you have to be ready to adapt to
change to did we work the phones enough to where
we could trade back if we have to? So the
board set, stack set, Uh, everything looks pretty up there
right now. You just wish those tags would start glowing
for all the Hall of Fame players, Yeah that are

(03:06):
going to be in this class. But yeah, it's a
it's an exciting time and you know you could sit
back and take a breath, but you just want to
make sure you have everything kind of buttoned up with
all your details, all your notes, and then have your
uh how have your scenarios ready if something were to happen.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, we'll get into some of those scenarios here with
a little mock draft simulation kind of see maybe what
happens around the Cowboys pick. But yesterday, of course we
had the pre draft presser, Nick, you were there and
you got to ask the question about, Hey, the trick
you asked the only draft quick the trade back? I mean,
how we feel. What were some of your takeaways from that?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, so I was we were able to get a
draft question, and I was super excited about it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I know you were.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I was just waiting the whole time draft calls.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Get ready, Nick's gonna ask one right here?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Uh yeah, But I asked about, you know, not having
those middle round picks, is there more of an intrigue
towards potentially trading.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Back if your guy is not there at twenty four?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
And Jerry Jones said it's very likely to have an
opportunity to do that, given the right people left on
the board or the wrong people gone off the board,
and the right trade. Later on he said, really, there's
a lot of variables here as to whether you'd go
up or down.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Obviously, we'd like to have some mid round picks.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
So you take that and you understand, you know, you
know kind of where their board is, and you would
have to you know, I guess a little bit from
our point of view obviously, But for me, again, I
still feel like if there's a certain handful of guys
that are not there at twenty four, I think there's
an opportunity to trade back. You look at Buffalo, you
look at Kansas City, both of those teams potentially looking
to move up and take a receiver. I think you

(04:42):
could also look at Baltimore in that same sense, moving
up to take a guy, whether that be a receiver
or an offensive lineman. Granted, that would probably hurt the Cowboys,
but they'd be able to move back six spots and
still pick up some draft capital if they like multiple
guys still there late in the first round. But the
way it's it's kind of shaping up right now, and
all the smoke that's kind of coming out out of
you know, potential Day one trades is teams are either

(05:03):
going to be moving up for receivers or they're moving
up for offensive linemen.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
And if you are the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Are you comfortable letting a team move up to take
an offensive lineman that you potentially would have taken if
that means you can get more picks in the next
couple of days. So you know, that's probably the conversation
that they're having up there, and those are the things
you weigh out. I think for me, I think there
is a healthy handful of guys there in that twenty
four to thirty five range that you can grab at
any point and I think be comfortable with. Obviously you'd

(05:29):
have some above others and things of that nature, but
if your first round, if your first round guys are gone,
then maybe you look into that and maybe look into
doing that. For me, again, it's Troy Falton, who JC
Latham and Graham Barton. If those three guys are off
the board, I'm getting on the phone, and I think,
as of right now, this is just my personal belief
is Kansas City's the most likely opportunity.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, this is what I wanted to ask you guys,
And we've did the We did the show where we
traded back and we kind of talked about what you
could get out of that. The threes and the fourth
depending on where you get to handicapped teams that are
more likely to trade up behind you. If you had
to say Baltimore, Buffalo, San Francisco, Kansas City rank them,

(06:09):
because I in my mind, I don't see the Ravens
as a trade up team.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Ravens to me, have always had a history of they
sit there and the best player falls right to them.
As likes to talk about chaos. Ozzie Knewsim and that
crew over there. The chaos. It's the old meme where
the building's burning and everybody in the little little character

(06:37):
standing there as things. It's okay, that's the Baltimore Ravens
to me. But if I had to handicap the teams
that could be super aggressive here, I don't know what
an order I would put him in between Baltimore, San
Francisco and Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I do think Buffalo is the team for me. I'd
foret one Buffalo because I think you mentioned I think
Brandon Bean likes that.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think you just too.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Buffalo get super aggressive.
They try and go with Atlanta Falcon. Julio Jones ask like
they say, Hey, we want Roma doun Za, right, we
want one of these elite top three receivers, and they're
trying to talk to move up into the top ten
of this draft. I could see Buffalo pulling the trigger
on something wild like that.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
I can see that as well, just because there's some
pressure there in that organization with how they've not you know,
risen to the occasion and obviously the loss of Stefan
Diggs this offseason as well. To your point, Yeah, they
very well could be trying to make sure they get
a receiver in there to make sure they can continue
to do what they want offensively.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, so I think, I mean, I don't know if
you agree. I youah, I'd probably go Buffalo, Kansas City,
San Francisco, and then Baltimore in that order.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
I would switch San Franco Kansas I.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Would too maybe. I mean, I'm trying to just think
back on when it's San Francisco really moved.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
They did a great trade with you. They drafted the
safety that the year you took It's so funny, the
year you took Travis Frederick. Maybe this is the deja
vous moment here for your Dallas Cowboys. But uh, you know,
being you probably need a center, and they were they
but Dallas ended up taking Travis Frederick. They took a safety,

(08:17):
my lsu safety. But yeah, so it was to me,
I I think Kansas City. I would rate Kansas City
over San Francisco on the aggressiveness meter. Buffalo I would
put in there because you're right about Brandon Bean. Brandon Beans.
Brandon Bean's attitude is like, listen, if I don't do

(08:38):
something and we don't win, I'm gonna get fired. Eric
Eric Reed's the safety was, yeah, there you go. Massive trade.
They went. They went from the bottom of the draft
to the middle of the draft. So uh, but let's see.
I I just wonder what teams if I had to,
I don't think Baltimore is the team, but I think
all those other ones are in play.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'd go Casey one and two, San fran three, Buffalo
four Ravens. And because it also has to work for
both sides, and if it works for the Cowboys, it
means that they have to pick up capital in this draft.
You look at what Buffalo has. They don't have a third,
they do have two fourths, yeah, and then they have
a mid second. So I don't think that they would
move off that second, so you'd probably be looking at

(09:20):
either both of those fourths or a fourth and a fifth.
That would be kind of the question there. For Kansas
City first, second, third, fourth, fifth, fifth, seventh, so pretty
straight down the line. For the forty nine ers first, second, third,
and then three fourths, so that's something to keep an
eye on. And then the Ravens first, second, third, two fourths,
three fourths you said, yeah, three fourths for the forty

(09:40):
nine ers, one in the trey Lance trade from the
Cowboys their own pick, and then they got a competitory
pick as well.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
I ain't gonna give it back. No, they like, we
already intog it. Why will we give it back?

Speaker 8 (09:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Okay, let's it would make it a lot easier to stomach,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Right, let's look at some of the simulation here. What's
going on around the Cowboys pick at twenty four. This
stuff always kind of gets me giddy, especially in the
day before the draft go ahead. This is this is
interesting because you do have some sliding offensive tackles that
we like here. Okay, so Fulaga Oregon State ends up
going to the Bengals at eighteen fell a little bit.

(10:14):
I think we're looking at him, maybe even going to
the top ten. Yeah, eighteen, how about Troy Fountain Fountain Faltanu,
the offensive ttack from Washington goes nineteen to the Rams.
She got two tackles going eighteen nineteen. Right in front
of you. Minnesota takes Power Johnson at twenty three. So
there's a center off the board.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I am. I know in that situation, Minnesota makes that pick.
I said this yesterday and I believe it. I think
this could be New England's pick. I think that might
be somebody's pick at the when we start this day,
I could see New England baling out of there on three. Yeah,
I know that. I know they're talked about. Hey, you know,

(10:57):
I just think that Minnesota someone's going to get a grad.
Minnesota is, I think, going to get aggressive with that
third pick if they can get it. I would if
I was in Dallas's war room, I would be planning
on somebody else picking ahead of me, other than Minnesota
at twenty three.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, Chargers also have to be a thought. I think
Broncos are probably a thought. There's there's a lot of
I'm with you. I don't think Minnesota is picking at
twenty three.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, No, I think they're going to package both their
picks move up. I think you make a good point
about Newing.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I just I just think you have to be again
Elliott Wolf. You know this is Elliott's really the introim
general manager of needs. Yeah, it has a lot of needs.
He knows what his team is. He knows he has
to have a quarterback. How far back can he go
to get a quarterback? I just think if you're Dallas,
you have to be ready for somebody else picking in
front of you. Uh with other than other than the

(11:43):
Minnesota Vikings. I think we would but go ahead and
say it again. Offensive lineman, when did the when was
the first tackle taken? Do you do you have that
ability to tell me? Because we talked about when the
tackle run what's going to start?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
It actually started at nine with the Bears. They told
Olu Fishanu at nine he was the first tackle off
the board from Penn State. Alt ends up sliding to
fourteen in this simulation with the Saints, and then you
had Mims go sixteen to Seattle, Filuaga eighteen to the Bengals,
and uh Futanu at nineteen to the Rams.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
The first five is it wide receiver.

Speaker 9 (12:22):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Is it amazing?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Okay, You've actually got a pretty good selection here of
guys to choose from. Byron Murphy out of Texas would
be my highest rated player. Cooper dejene is there, the
cornerback at Iowa. But then the two guys to the Cowboys.
I mean we're assuming offensive line. J. C. Latham is
still there from Bamo, which I know you talked to
a GM buddy, so there's no way this happens.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah. The thing about it is my
guy was like he when I mentioned the names that
you know off to what you were talking about, the
guys that you were holding. I gave him the three
names that you like and Latham being one of them,
and he goes, man, Latham ain't gonna be there for
you guys. Yeah, I think so, he you know, And
I'm like, I mean this kind of stimulation, I kind
of redo the simulation.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't think this is accurate at all. But you
never know.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's craziness the draft, the craziness of the draft. But
I think you have an idea. You're just trying to
get an idea where this run might start and where
are you going to be in the run. Are you
going to you know the fact that it's I'm okay,
you know with these I don't know about you guys,
and I issue you've accused me of this, and you're
absolutely right. I'm hell been on getting a center, I

(13:23):
really am. I'm feeling the same way and I am
hell been on that. And because I just feel like
though that maybe that center can help me more right
now than that tackle, because I just in my mind,
I know, and Nick, I know this drives your damn nuts.
I know in my heart I can move that left
guard to tackle if I had to.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
It doesn't drive me nuts. I understand it. But it's
just not my preference.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
But I understand I don't think. I don't think it's
the Cowboys preference either. Yeah, I don't think it's their
preference either.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
So in this situation, I think you're right. In terms
of Latham, Barton and then Guidens, the best tackle left
out of Oklahoma's those would be probably your top five options.
That are Aisha Murphy out of Texas, Cooper Degene at Iowa,
and then the three offensive linemen with Latham, Barton and Geidon.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I talked to a team that kind of has an
understanding what Jacksonville wis Jacksonville they had seventeen eighteen eighteen.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, and Jacksonville went with Robinson at a Penn State
choson at seventeen.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
But I feel like rich. I feel like, yeah, some
slander going on there. Uh the uh, it is a
little rich. The uh Jacksonville. I was getting the hint
or the whisper that they're looking at corner makes sense.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
And I was even asked about your guye Degene. I
was asked, I was asked about Degene, what do you
think about him? And they? And but I I gave it.
I said, you gotta take Mitchell. Mitchell's the guy got
to take.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
And there was a little bit of a run on
the corner.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Arnold's gone. That's I know, you're on your board, on
your board. Arnold would be the second guy. I think
I got that right.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, And I've got that flip. I've got Arnold one
and Mitchell too. But Arnold was gone. In this simulation
at twelve to Denver, They're gonna pair two Alabama corners
there with certain and Arnold. That's pretty nice. And then
you had back to back corners go with Mitchell to Miami.
Nate Wiggins from Clemson ends up going to Philly at
twenty two. But in this scenario, I think the Cowboys
are pretty happy at twenty four with Latham and Barton

(15:20):
both sitting on the board.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Mitchell to Miami would be nasty. We go ahead, go
ask question, Mitchell would nasty?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
How would you feel about Wiggins at Philadelphia? Would it
be like, you know, Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's one of those like pentthrows from me. I'm oh,
that's fine with well, I'm not as high.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't think that.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm fine with Nate Wigans.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
It sounds so terrible, but Philly hasn't shown me they
know how to really coach cornerback over there as of
the last so I don't care because they got Sidney
Brown over there looking christy.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, they've had to go outside the organization, bringing Darius Slay,
bringing Brad.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Bearry tired, yeah, safety, Yeah, they've been.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Any of the guys that they've drafted and tried to develop.
You're one hundred percent right, that.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Is not like it kind of like giants and the
Giants and offensive lineman. Yeah. Yeah, they've thrown a lot
of resources.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
You talk about players, we could be totally wrong about Wiggins.
Is that guy? For me, I got a tow Wiggins.
But a lot of people love Nate Wiggins. Man.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
They're scared of that one seventy three guys. Yeah, speed
is real starting the speed is legit.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Speed is his best attribute.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because a guy asked me in the league this morning,
he goes, what do you think about Wiggins? And I'm thinking, well,
he's won seventy three the guys, Yeah he is, And
I go, but you know the thing about him is
if he misses on the press, the way he recovers,
the foot quickness, the speed and all.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
That he can mirror.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, and that's that's that's the I think that's his
saving grace right now, is that mirror, the ability to
mirror right there. But we're but we're in good shape
because in this simulation right here, Barton, okay and lath
Power ranked the guys that yeah power, Oh you got
Latham to Power ranked the guys that you have available?

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Oh many, Murphy?

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Latham? Barton Murphy did gene Guiton.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
That's my order that would be mine too. Yeah, that's
my order there.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
And you guys know my affinity for Barton, but I've
got JC Latham just a little bit higher than him
on my stack.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
Who's the last guy?

Speaker 10 (17:21):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
The last guy I put in was Guidon Oklahoma because
I got Degene graded a little bit higher than Guiden.
I don't have Guiden in the first I've got Guiden
into the second round.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Tackle.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Ah, that's tough with Latham and Barton. I think that's
what the war room debate ends up being, do you
want and then Latham, I assume would be a guard
to get over myself and there and for them, So
I mean that comes down to, uh, do you want
to go ahead and fill your center need with Ram Barton,
who also has position flex.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
I don't think Latham would necessarily be like a home
run guard though, like right off rip, I think they
could go into OTA's going to training camp and see
what he could do with tackle, and I think he
could play left tackle for this organization. But especially if
they feel like they can keep Tyler Smith where they
want to keep them, I think Jac Latham could play
left tid.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean, I haven't spent a ton of time talking
JC Latham because I don't think he's a realistic option.
But you talk about, you know, adding both these guys.
That's why I love them. The attitude, the toughness, the physicality.
I mean, one thing I think we've all seen when
you watch the Cowboys try to run the football. At
least last year they struggled to get movement in the
running game. Both these guys are helping with that.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Oh yeah, I mean what I did want to ask
because Brian brought up you know that you feel like
the uh, I don't know. Do you feel like tackle
isn't as important as center? I do think we do
have to look within our division and see what what
is most team strengths and where they're really attacking you.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
You do have a quarterback that.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Is able to be able to see in a vague
pressure or whatever from.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
The tackle pans as well. Yeah, but that but the
interior is the most concerning.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
So I like that view. So I think you're right.
I think when you think about initially all three teams
in your division, their strengths are in the middle. You're
if you want to build your team to win the East,
I think you want your interior offensive play to be
better here, and that makes maybe Barton move up ahead
of Latham in the conversation unless you're playing Latham at guard. Brian.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
See that's again, I Nick, I totally respect what you're
saying about Latham playing tackle, playing left tackle. It's so
funny because I'm not trying to get influenced this guy
that I talked to scouts the Southeast and I've known
him for a long time, and you know his His
whole thing was about Latham was I don't think he
could play left tackle, and I agree right tackle, but man,

(19:32):
the guard aspect to him. I went back and looked
at my stack from that what I was because I
was curious about the players that were left out of
that group. I have Murphy as the highest rated player.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I do too. I've got Murphy's the ninth best player
on my board. I don't know where you guys.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
But Murphy.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But the problem for me is, and this is again,
I got him at fourteen.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Where do I have? I got him a seventh?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
So if we're not window dress on the board, we're
taking best player. Yeah, But I just don't think they
would be doing that. I don't think they'd have the
converse station with Murphy. And here, considering you took Mazie lasts.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Brought something up on one of these shows about what's
the one thing that the surprise and yeah, are they
going to take a three technique at twenty four? I
don't think they will. But to me, if they did it,
I can't do I can't kill him on it.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, that's the guy to do with. He's the best
one in the class. Yeah, special rare player.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
But I just told you I'm dying for a sinner.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, you know, well, then yeah, let me throw a
scenario on the table. If Byer Murphy is the best
player on the board, they take that three tech. Talk
to me, then there's there's a potential trade opportunity with
a three tech that you might have on the roster
for a later round pick.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
And I wonder if that's even a thought.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
And I know this organization is not high on on
trading current assets and they haven't been for a while,
but I think that's that's just kind of a draft scenario.
You have to think about me personally, I think, ohso
Digisy was a phenomenal three tech in this league, and
I think he would be just fine being there for
the next five, six, seven years. I think he has
that potential. I think he has Pro Bowl potential. Sure,
but you know, are you can you pass up a

(21:08):
talent like that when it's staring at you. He's at
twenty four, got you going backwards.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I don't think it'd be tough to sell any of
us on Byron Murphy.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean that's fair, but you Yeah, we just
lost half our listeners.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Nobody wants to hear us talk.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Here's the thing again, that's why we're talking. You talk
about if you draft, you're stacking it for a reason. Brian,
I'm absolutely absolutely right about that. I will all say.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I will also say this though, I've got that Powers
Johnson right behind him, you know, I mean, I mean
a couple of spots if you just this way, the
stack fell for me. I man, it was funny because
I asked that question because I wanted to see if
I was the only guy, no and Gal that had
Byron Murphy that high on on my stack.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
No, I've got I've got Murphy. He's a top ten
player in the draft.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Serious business, he is.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I mean, and he gives you he stopped not
right on the way to.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
The quarter Listen. I'm just I am a fifteen so
just let me make it.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Okay, I've got in the highest at nine.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
But I just the idea of them trading away.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
From two of those linemen that we really like a lot,
with Latham and Barton.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I just think you can't take like in that position,
you can't take away from right now, like you don't
have nothing at DT.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah, you ain't got nothing.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Just a thought, just a thought.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Let me just throw one. I would hate it so
with with three stud players that we like a lot.
And I know we got to get to twitter on
the Twitter some question real quick.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
So if Byron Murphy goes like at nine or ten,
are we going to be a happy group?

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, because that means that because.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
It takes them out of our equation.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
I think that's just one more tackle on the board.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Because this is a problem for us right now.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
Stressed, that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
This is a stressful conversation. Washington gets on the phone
here in this simulation, they say, all right, you guys
want to back out of the first round. Here, we'll
give you pick thirty six, and we'll also give you
pick sixty seven in the third.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
That's it, just sixty seven.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
They're thrown in a seventh pick two twenty two. But
they're giving you there two and they're three, so now
you're adding sixty seven.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
I feel like you can get a better deal out
of Kansas City there.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Kansas City doesn't offer anything in that offer. Anything Kansas
City doesn't now Houston does. Houston offers forty two in
the second round, eighty six in the third, and then
you can get an extra sixth round pick with pick one.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Eight two is tough, tough to stomp.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
See, That's why I didn't. And the only the only
trade offer to me that I like is Washington here.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
This is where okay, at forty two to Houston ms
the the forty two to Houston that gets me my
b YU tackle I believe.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah, potentially, but you'd be sweating it. You'd be sweating.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Do you think Jordan Morgan can fall to forty two.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
You don't think so either.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
But if if Tennessee does not grab Joe Alt there
in the first round, and they are going to be
tackle hunting potentially there at thirty eight, you're also looking
at New England potentially tackle hunting there at thirty four.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I get on the phone to tell Elliott, Well, if
you need to do something.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Okay, what about Zach Fraser, West Virginia Center at forty two.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
You're Washington or not Washington.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You're looking at green Bay potentially.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Green Bay right behind you on green Bay. Green Bay
is curious what you're going to be doing right now.
As a matter of fact, my phone's blowing up about
green Bay.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Are the green Bay yeacause they know the Cowboys right
in front of them probably going to take their guy. Yeah,
I think they could be a fight for Barton right there.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Really quick before we before we go to break couicksac.
This was mentioned yesterday in the press or. It was
a question. I forget who was from, and I forget
how it was phrase, so forgive me here, but it was.
It was along the lines of if if there is
a same graded player on your board in TIERR versus tackle,
how do you kind of juggle those two positions? Draft
at twenty four. This is what Mike McCarthy had to say.

(24:47):
He said, Hey, I think it's very important, but I
think you just don't go too far. And I'm talking
about our division games. I think the defensive tackle play
in our division is.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
As strong as ever.

Speaker 8 (24:55):
See.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, he said I remember the answer so and so
Latham and Barton, I think definitely they're in the conversation.
They're over a guide from Oklahoma that answers the question. Okay,
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be some of the topics here as we get into
some twitter on the twenty Twitter on twenty and twenty

(28:20):
A thank you Beamer. Okay, I had some questions about
like double dipping on the trade scenarios here. I think
this would happens. Yeah, we're we're getting that double dip cone, Like,
do you do you see any scenarios because you gave
us four or five different teams that are picking behind
the Cowboys, and if you're in a situation where Latham's

(28:40):
not there, which we don't expect, maybe you do get
a run on the tackles. Maybe Barton gets higher in
Jackson power shots, and maybe there's a conversation where he's
not in the consideration there at twenty four. Do you
double dip possibly move back twice in the first round.
Is that something that is even a topic of consideration
because Walker Davies ass can I interest you in trading

(29:04):
back and into the top five of the second round
because if you look at the last four years, that's
kind of become a sweet spot of where some real
stud players have been selected. Last year Joey Porter Junior,
Samuel Porter, Samuel Porter get Steve Avilla, the TCU guard.
Year before that you had Bryce Hall Petrie, the safety

(29:25):
from Baylor. I mean this goes back where you get
you sleep on it top of the board day two.
Now you're gonna get some guys and maybe he still
had some first round grades that slipped.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
I'm with it. I'm with it. I'll go far back
as thirty five.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
That's maybe thirty you could tip me to thirty seven,
but I'm okay with I'm okay with going back to
the top five for second round because that probably means
you're picking up quite a bit of capital.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, like, how many extra picks do you think you
can get?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Four?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
If you move back twice, three to four. Think we're
at in the third we're adding an extra second.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, it depends on where you're going to know, that's
always the key, you know, of course you get you
got to map it out, but also those teams you
want to target teams that have extra picks, like you know,
like the we try to trade up to the Chargers,
They've got two, uh, fourth round picks, you know, so
you know, we were trying to our two third round picks.

(30:15):
We were trying to kind of find spots that, you know,
team it's a little bit easier team with multiple picks
to trade too, because they're more willing to part with
one of those picks.

Speaker 10 (30:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
I mean, I'm not saying I don't want to have
I know we're just doing hypotheticals, but my brain can't
go to.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
That fone for trade backs.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
We're in like a fairytale land, like yeah, if you
can get one good one.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
But no, I think you bring up a really good
point that that's kind of become a sweet spot, and
that's a trend that we're kind of starting to see
that a lot of teams are are starting to sleep
on it and be able to do some things coming
out Day two. So I expect I don't expect fireworks.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
I expect some sparklers.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, I mean it's possible. I mean, we had Chris
who gave us a good diapathetical if Buffalo wants to
come up for a receiver, you end up getting an
extra four or a eight. Three does a team Mike
Carolina or New England, Brian? Then I come up?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Buffalo does not? Do we determine that Buffalo doesn't have
a three? Right?

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Buffalo does not have Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Does not because I was trying to get one of
those threes, one of those late threes.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
In fact, Buffalo, Yeah, Buffalo doesn't.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Detroit's the team behind you that doesn't have they'd have
to give you next year's stuff. They got nothing. The Ravens.
The Ravens, we talked about them. We probably they're gonna
probably sit. San Francisco is similar to what the Ravens
would have. I think you pick up an extra three there.
That's really that. But Kansas City's the one where you
can potentially get the three in the four out of them. Okay,

(31:44):
so you want to go back again? How far back
do you want to go?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I mean, if you're looking at New England, what would
that be forty two?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's actually thirty thirty four, that's thirty four thirty four.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, so New England's there at thirty four. Now New
England's got that pick one oh three, which is the
third pick of the fourth round that I know is
gold when you're talking about the start of day three,
if you want to try and get that one as well,
So that'd be an interesting conversation.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
You could also look at the Cardinals. They're at thirty
five three third round picks. They got sixty six, seventy one, ninety,
and then they have one oh four at the top
of day three.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
So those aholl Houston's picks.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
The Houston pick is ninety, that's the seventy one is
from Tennessee. I'm trying to that would that would be
the Hopkins trade.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I would assume, Yeah, Houston's got a lot of amo, man,
because they've got pick eighty six they got from Philly.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Yeah, there's real jealousy I feel for what's going on, and.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, Houston's doing a good job this officer.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
No, I expect the Cardinals to be active.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, you mentioned that yesterday.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
I really just think they're going to be active. And
some of the things they do, whether it's at pick
what four or I'm twenty seven, they pick after us
and we didn't we haven't.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Really member and then they're picking at thirty five. I
mean maybe maybe that's a move back. You pick up
twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
You have a twenty seven and a thirty five, Like,
I don't again, I'm still learning all that those are.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Those are pretty close together.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
You don't know if a team is like one and
to keep those, I think they're going to be active
in round one.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm with you, Yeah, first year, Gm'm curious to see
what he does there.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, all right, let's go to Adam Desuza, who asks us,
in honor of Kyle Yeomen's and the marathon worthy pick,
here's a player for us that would be marathon worthy
if the Cowboys ended up selecting them at twenty four?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Do you have a guy I'm not running a Maratha.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
That you'd run a marathon if they ended up taking them.
But yeah, I started to really if that pick happens, yeah,
that'd be because that guy to me, like I first
watched him play, I'm thinking body type, that's a guard.
But you see the nimble feet. He's taller than I
thought that he would be when he measured in the combine.
He is athletic enough to play tackle. I think he

(33:50):
could play maybe all five positions. I mean, I think
the intelligence is there to even play him at center
in a pinch. But I think he'd be an excellent guard.
But I think he absolutely could play tackle with the
NFL level.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
I'll tell you what, Instead running a marathon, I'm going
to be a big backed individual real quick, and I'm
gonna flip it really quick. If Troy was picked at
twenty four, I'll do that little waffle challenge where you
have to be in the let's go the twenty four
hour challenge. Twenty four hours so ever you want me to.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
The hour is.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Taken off your sentence. Okay, but I like this Brian,
Do you have one or do you want to co
sign with Faltanutanu is the guy?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Absolutely you joined me at waffle house.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Okay, I might have to. I might have to. I'll
tell you what though. It's uh, that's the great thing
in the beauty of the draft. You just don't know
if there's going to be somebody you feel like that.
You do all this work and line these guys all up,
and then maybe there's somebody that does you know, somebody says, well, no,
we're just going to go with this guy. We like
this guy a little bit better. But I would be

(34:41):
super excited if he if he.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I mean the leverage he plays, it's so natural for him,
and his pass sets the quickness out of his stance
when Beemer's rolling the b roll here in that National championship.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Yeah, we're just saying it doesn't matter who the player is.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, and any player in the first round at twenty
four that you'd be like, oh my gosh, this would
be It's like the Ceede Lampick at seventeen. Nobody thought
CD He's gonna be there. He ends up being there.
Kyle runs a.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Player you got the who's a player you really really want?

Speaker 6 (35:07):
I mean, listen, I uh, I would not I think
how bad. I think Bauers in this offense could be
very helpful. But I I was gonna say, just as
a random player, if Jeene Bell comes here from FSU,
I'm gonna find.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Okay, I don't think that. And again, we haven't talked.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
About we hate touched tight end.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Why. I don't know. We ain't got no proven tight
ends besides eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, friggy.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, but they were it's so funny yesterday they were
talking about Stevens you know, Steven Jones. Yeah, was John Stevens.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Fairness, they had plans for him, if you.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Will, absolutely made the team before the injury.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
You're right about Bell by the way, jaheem Bell.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Is an alien. Yeah, I know, I know, I mean,
and he even put him anywhere you on. He is
a ton of.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Fun and when you talk about you know, we've mentioned
some of the other gentlemen like that these teams are
teams are kind of looking for that Debo esque type
vibe guy, and I feel like he can do some
of that stuff, even though he's considered a tight end.
But as far as Stevens goes, if you watch the preseason,
even some of the play designs were play designs.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
We never see no more. After he wasn't on the
field no more.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
They were trying different things with him where they had
him slipping and had him.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
In motion and stuff.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Because he does have some receiver as qualities, and I
know a lot of us were worried about is he
going to be able to stand.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
In line and block.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
I think in the preseason he even showed that he
at least had the effort to want to do that.
And he's not super physically imposing, but he was a
willing blocker when we got to see him. So I
do understand that maybe they do have some upside or
things that they think from Stevens and those guys.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
But I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't like later,
maybe later maybe day.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, I think maybe possibly, But I think it's one
of those things like Bobby's talked about, you've got to
trust the evaluation of Bobby belt. He won't come with
trust you make Scooney.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Right, are you ever going to be able to run
the ball in twelve personnel?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, if you can't run the ball in twelve personnel
with Scoony, then you mis evaluated him, because what were
we talking about this time last year? Scoon maker best
maybe best blocking tight end in the drive.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I'm the guilty one.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
If Scooney can't figure it out, then you know what
we we just missed on the pick there.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'm ready to go to court.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
But I think even the blocking is great, but I
think the lack of receiving quality A man. Listen, there's
a team that watches the same film you do and
they see, yeah, that that's not happening. So he is right,
like Bobby said, he's gonna have to take a step
up or whatever. But it just gives me anxiety because
you got you got a lot right.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
You got knocked off, you got knocked off the ball
tight ends you need Fergie to improve, there'd be more consistent.
You need schoon Maker around in the form of the
player you thought he would be. But I do think
with Stevens and Ferguson, you've got, yeah, you've got two
guys there that I think can give you a receiving threat.
But that's interesting. I mean, like Jared Wiley at a TCU,
that's not a guy that can block, but you talk
about Travis Kelcey esque perceiving threat, wildly special in that regard.

(38:01):
I mean, if you want to get a receiving type
of tight end, I.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Just feel completely different about the tight end position. I
feel like Jake Ferguson really took a step forward for
last year to yeah, yeah, but take the receiving ability away.
I'm talking about run blocker. I think he took a
really big step last year. I think that kind of
helped be able to bring Schoonmaker in once he came
off that plane or Fascia. Granted, Schoonmaker has to be
able to take a big second year, second year leap

(38:25):
that needs to happen. But you got two receiving tight
ends behind those guys, and Peyton Hendershot and John Stevens Junior.
Sure you can bring in an undrafted guy to kind
of elevate the competition in that room, But if they're
spending a draft pick on a tight end, I'm I
don't know. I feel some type of way about that.
I feel the same way about quarterback or safety. I
think those are the three positions you don't need to
touch with that.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, I'm okay with not touching it tight end. I
think we could. I could argue for safety, we can
talk about that.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
On the other side of no, no, no, I was going
to say, I mean in theory.

Speaker 9 (38:52):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
My point is that in this season, you really, this
is a this seat.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
There's a lot weighing on the season.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
And to me, neither one of those gentlemen that you
just mentioned, like Peyton Hendershot has been here. Well this
is his third year, and I hend dog is my dog,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I respect the player,
but at the same time, we didn't what did we
see him from him last year?

Speaker 7 (39:12):
I know he was injured.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
I know he was dealing with injuries, but what what
he's what is?

Speaker 7 (39:18):
It wasn't It's not enough. It's to me, it's not enough.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
To ride on and be like yeah, for sure, and
then I just I don't know, I feel differently about it.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
I do think John Stevens has.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
More of a potential upside.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Oh absolutely, I think he has the opportunity to it
because and I'm not saying that Peyton's not capable.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
We just ain't seen yet.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I think I was more disappointed in hinder than Schoonmaker
than I was Hindershot.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I think I kind of feel like I know what
Hindershot is.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I felt like that Schoonmaker was going to come in
here and be a guy that when you put him
at the point of attack in line, he was going
to be able to work with either Tyron Smith or
work with Terrence Steele, and they were gonna be able
to control the edge and they were gonna be able
to run the ball. They just couldn't do it with
that man.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I do remember Dalton Schultz. You know, the first year
didn't go well. Dalton Schultz, is he going to be
making the roster into a Pro Bowl tight end for you.
Trust you know, I'm I'm over Eileen with you.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Nick.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't think you have the luxury to spend a
pick on a tight end with all of your needs.
But sixteen maybe okay, let's go ahead and step aside.
When we come back. Who's a player that you would
pound the table for that maybe we haven't talked about.
Let's give some guys some love that haven't been getting it.
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the first round of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
It just hit me as soon as you said that.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
It just hit me as dreams like re joiners up.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Of course, we love you and we appreciate you rocking
with us throughout this entire thing. I know there were
so many Twitter questions that we weren't able to go
to because we all just end up having so much
fun talking and kicking around all these hypotheticals. Of course,
segment brought to you by for your Texas for dealers,
for it is the best in Texas. I did want
to ask you, guys, these these two positions. Then we'll

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get to players that you could pound the table on.
But you brought you brought tight end up. Okay, safety
an edge. Safety was a position Brian, you brought up
in our group chat a couple of days ago. Edge,
I usual you brought up today. Out of those two positions,
where would you be comfortable taking one? Nick? I know
for you, safety is not one you want, So you

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can you can start off with edge and who is
a player that you'd be hyd.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
So if you're you're probably looking there on day three
at edge. Man, if you pick up that fourth round
pick and you're able to get Jaylex Hunt, oh man,
I would be I would be a j I'd be
all in on that. I'd have a party in here
on Saturday. But if you're looking more realistic with the
picks that they do have right now, let's see, let's
let's take a look at this.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
These day three guys.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
I think I think there's a potential that you look
at Gosh, Braden McGregor out of Michigan. That's that's kind
of a guy. Brendan Jackson out of Washington State. Let's
go Xavier Thomas out of Clemson just because he's he's
more of an athletic. He's more of an athletic, twitch,
twitchy guy. Like he doesn't necessarily have the size, but

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he has that bend that can kind of get under
under some offensive tackles. He was originally a top recruit
in the class of eighteen, I believe, which was my
high school class.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
So it's six years ago.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
He's been he's been in college, so he's he's been
around the game a while.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
He brings a lot of experience. I think it's it's
a product, you know what you're getting.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Like, I don't think he's going to be an eventual starter,
but I think that is a good replacement to bring
in if you're looking for a guy to kind of
fill that Dante Fowler junior role in the sense that, hey,
we just need to be able to rotate a body
in on a passing down, to be able to go
be athletic on third down and be able to attack
the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
It's funny that you run up Thomas. When I watched it,
I'm like, man, I wish I could take his bend
and put it on Brailan Trice out of Washington, and
then you'd have a first round edge right there. That
would be amazing. Okay, Brian, if you want to take
edge safety both, whichever you prefer, I'm.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Going to tell you about an edge named Gabriel Murphy
from u C. L a Is. So I'm going to
take this guy. This guy's a transfer from North Texas,
by the way, might be a little undersized to play,
but his strength his hand use is impressive. The coaches
move this guy around up and down the line. They
find spots for him to rush. He made a play
as a three technique in the USC game with a

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really nice quick move that beat the guard tackle and
made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage, the first
step that Ayisha likes a lot. He's got explosiveness, he's
disruptive in the running game, and he's got flexibility to
bend off the edge. He could stay connected to the action.
You don't see him kind of get knocked out of
the play or pushed wide. Everybody talks about law to you.

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Gabriel Murphy on the other side made his share of
place too. So if you're looking for one of those
Day three edge rushers at six two two forty seven,
Gabriel Murphy is your guy. I mean he can, he
can rush the passer, and I know we could play
run defense. A little bit of completeness to his game.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Absolutely. It was great at the East West Srian bold
Nick and I know him pretty well. Bishop Lynch playing
there with his twin brother. You mentioned going to North
Texas Cob Baby and then makes that transfer Aisha safety edge.
Which side you want to go with? I know we
were talking about a player that I'm happy to discuss
unless you want to take him.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
I'm gonna let you talk about it because I'm gonna
talk about a couple other guys. So for me, when
you look at that Day three situation, I look at Cedric.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Johnson edge out of Old Miss big time.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
As they move him like you said, like you mentioned
with Murphy, they move him all across the line. He
can do it in multiple stances as well, so it
stands out. Sometimes you see him with his hand on
the dirt, sometimes he's just staying and he has good
he has good strength and balance. I like the backs
of a side pursuit from him. He rushes with speed
to power. He has a couple of swipe and rip moves.

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He's very tall in his stance, so sometimes sometimes I
do think he can lose his footing and play too tall.
But I do think that if he just plays under control,
a little bit more control, he has crazy closing speed
and just develops a little bit more discipline with his speed.
Because he's such a his body is so sixty to

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fifties crazy. So I think that he still is trying
to figure out some of the balanced parts of things.
But I think he can be a good edge in
this league with a little bit more discipline. I also
look at what you talk about safety. Hey, hey, man,
I watched Malik.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Mustafa right in front of him.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
What a fune watch you enjoy him?

Speaker 3 (47:47):
I know what safety you like, and Ustafa is certainly
of your eyes, like, Yeah, him and Jayden Hicks, they've
got that about him. Jaden Hicks to me, is like
a little Troy Paula Mali.

Speaker 6 (47:59):
Yeah, and he has some flex I think playing some
free safety as well. But this is a strong safety. Yeah,
he's crazy as a blitzer. He has good been to
an evate lieman when he's blitzing as well. He's constantly
reading the QB's eyes and he can get I do
think he can get.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
A little girls downhill, would you.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
But he can run.

Speaker 6 (48:17):
He covers a lot of ground. He's very scrappy. He
makes plays in the run game. He's active, and he
has read and reactability that you are looking for from
a safety. Malik Mustafa is I would love to have
him on it on your team.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah. The last line in my notes was this guy
has the right temperament for the position and who will
make someone look smart who drafts him.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Yeah, he's a player.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
This guy is a player.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
He is. I'll go with the safeties here. I do
think late rounds and maybe even undrafted free agent like
Ryan Watts out of Texas and the Cowboys got a
good look at traits Wise. We talked about Dominie Campton
at a Washington guy I did like a lot like
traits Wise. Late in the draft. I'd consider safety as
early as fifty six for me, because there's a player
that I love and I've talked about him early in

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the draft, and there's two. I consider Jayden Hicks there
at a Washington State. I think he is absolutely fantastic, quick, aware,
explosive downhill. I think he can be a special teams guy.
I think he's like a Harrison Smith Troy Polamal, whose
style to his game that Mike Zimmer would absolutely unlock
magic with. But to me, and this is a dude
that I'd stand on the table before every day, I've

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got a first round grade on him. I might be
the only draft person in the world with the first
round rade on him. I don't care he's being slept on,
like Antoine Winfield Junior was a couple of years ago,
but it's Shavon Bullard out of Georgia, saw action as
a freshman at Uga, named defensive MVP of the National
title game against TCU and the semifinal against Ohio State.
He'll thump you. He's super physical. He's a guy that'll

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throw his body around, can come down. He'll cover the
slot sideline to sideline. He has a play versus Tennessee.
He gets beat up the seam, but he reads the receiver,
puts his hands up to break up the pass. He's
one of those guys where it's just he's got a feel.
He's got innate instincts and feel for the game. Short
area of quickness. He's got recovery speed. Maybe that lacks
a little bit when it comes to just straight line

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speed covering, you know, the deep half of the field.
But I love Javon Bullard. I know he's undersized and
some guys are gonna knock him for no, you.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Know who this is. This is Jalen Peatree. This is Jalen.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Peetrie for You're gonna say.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
No, no, no, this this is him. This is this
kid is flying around all over if you want to,
if you want to, you we talked about Petrie earlier,
so I think you brought his name up. Kid from
Baylor in twenty twenty two that draft. This kid's got
the same kind of I love them traits. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I stand on the table for Bullard there at fifty six.
If you're wiped out, there's not a lot of players
that you love, I'd go for it there. Okay, I
know we got to show following up after us. This
has been a blast really quick.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
No, yeah, yeah, we have a new highest paid wide
receiver in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Did we just get something happened?

Speaker 5 (50:49):
I'm and Ross Saint.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Brown four years one and twenty million, seventy seven guaranteed. Uh,
the one twenty is the most, seventy seven million guaranteed
is the most, the annual value is the most. So
the her market has been reset once again.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Turned to a year. By the way, I'm sorry, quick.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Math, I need you to hurry up. We've got another
show that's coming in.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (51:08):
What does that turn to?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
What a year? What is that? A year?

Speaker 5 (51:11):
That would be?

Speaker 4 (51:12):
That would be thirty a year. So that's it's at
more than one twenty. So I assume it's going to
be right right above Tyreek Hill's number. So he is
the high I was told.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
That the tyreek Kill number really in reality is.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
Like twenty seven is twenty five?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Oh five?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Interesting instead of thirty it's twenty five.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Well, if you heard the pressure yesterday, certainly uh ceedee lamb.
Paying attention to that, and there'll be conversations. We'll have
you all three days. This is going to be a blast.
Will be on the year at six o'clock tomorrow. Dallascowboys
dot Com one O five through the fan Night one
of the NFL Draft. We look forward to hanging out
with you all three days. Until tomorrow. I want to
do it legs and hand pounds everybody.

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