Draft Show: Tools of the Trade

With one week to go until the NFL Draft, Bryan, Nick, and Iisha discuss potential trade partners/compensation that could move the Cowboys out of the 24th spot.

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Belt soon to be on his way. Bobby's got like
a morning job he has to take care of, so
hopefully we'll hopefully we'll have him on board here. But yeah,
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Sorry, you gotta get to qualify it and to invite
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Speaker 3 (03:07):
This is a unique opportunity.

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We've had it over at our place at over at Odyssey,
and now to have it at the where the players
the auditorium, Man, that is super super cool. It will
be cool, So look forward to that tonight. What I
want to do today. I want to start this show
about Okay, there little hiccups.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Nervous about what's going on.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Get to the hiccups.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Okay, it off.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Until I brought it up. I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, we haven't talked much about And this used to
be a responsibility of mine when I was with the
Cowboys back all the way back in two thousand and five.
And now Todd Williams and out of Pacific and those guys,
they do a good job of this. And this is
the trading up and trading back. You've heard about the
trade charts and stuff like that, and I've worked up

(03:59):
some as here where I've taken the chart and I'm
going to try and take you back to a couple
of places. I got a few places I want to
take you back to. First off, Nick, you're interested in
going back, aren't you? Right? Very much?

Speaker 4 (04:16):
So?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, okay, So going into this draft for you, if
you were sitting in the war room, you would be
let's move no matter what.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
Guy.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
Not necessarily. There's two guys.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
I would take a twenty four okay, Graham Barton if
he were to follow twenty four.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Okay, and Troy Fatanu if he were to follow twenty four.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Okay, if either of those guys or if both of
those guys are off the board getting on the phones.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I show you interested in you. You're kind of
the same way. It has to be maybe a guy
or two that you really like, or are you interested
in trying to recoup a pick or two as we
go along here?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
No, I mean I agree, I think it has to
be a guy that I really like. But also too,
I think if you have the opportunity we've talked about,
if you have the opportunity to get into that fourth
round and any way, then.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
That you need to do it. It's just the way
this board is and how top heavy it is.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
It's just hard to believe that there's not going to
be so much value there on some players we really
like in that fourth round.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I'll tell you what. I think. You're both right about this.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I my plan would be going in I would have
if if I was running the draft, I would have
my pro guys on the phones right now, throwing chum
in the water. I'm trying to get people interested, like listen, hey,
we're we're here for business. We're open. You got my number.
You know, if you're thinking about moving up, come on
here we are you know, don't don't don't feel like

(05:31):
you have to go ahead of us, you know, if
you need if your guys there, But let me ask
you another thing. As we look at this draft, and
another reason why we might need to bail other than
getting the picks, I'm getting a vibe that all these
offensive players are going to go early.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
In this draft.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, absolutely, is the best player on our board potentially
going to be a defensive guy.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
Yeah, that's that's that's what reality thinks.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
So you look at you look at the edge rushers
that you could probably probably expect to come off.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
In the twenties. Yeah, if li all to Law two falls.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
To that shut range, you got Chop Robinson, you got
Darius Robinson. There's a lot of different guys that I
think could be there in the twenties. But do you
are you saying would you take that defensive guy if.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
He is That's what I'm That's what I'm asking you, guys. Yeah,
because you know, you guys have told You've got me
convinced that you know, hey, we've got to fix this
offensive line one way or another. We've got to find
a way a tackle. We've got an option to tackle.
We can move our guy. You know that's not you know,
not very good. You're not a fan of that. Yeah,
but you know you might get over voted in the room.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
I'm okay with it. It's just not my preference.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
So we're so we're but you know that might be
a possibility. You know, we're all kind of thinking about
the center. Our centers are a little banged up though,
you know, but we're looking at him. The thing that
I'm starting to hear more and more and more is
all these quarterbacks go, some of these receivers go, these
offensive lineming go. We might be at twenty four looking

(06:57):
at a defensive player that that all of a sudden,
now we're comfortable taking our BYU offensive tackle at twenty four.
You know, we that might be where we're at. We
might be stuck. We might be stuck where all those
all those offensive players are gone and now we're looking
at defensive guys as the best player, right.

Speaker 9 (07:19):
I mean, for me, listen, I know, like I know.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Bobby feels feels very strongly about not getting another DT. Yeah, early,
but just the way that DT typically falls where you know,
they typically aren't off the board into some of that
that twenty range or whatever. If I see Byron Murphy
is there, I don't know if I'm not gonna skip
over that.

Speaker 9 (07:41):
I don't know if I'm just.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Gonna be like, no, I'm cool on him or whatever.
This d you don't have depth at the defensive interior
right now.

Speaker 9 (07:49):
It's a problem. Even on the offensive side. You've brought
it up. You have brock k Hoffmann, you do have
a TJ.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Bass, you do have an awesome Richards that maybe you
just don't know everything from you just yet, but you
do have guys on the offense. Maybe you ain't got
that over there on defense right now, and you've lost
a lot of depth at edge. To you guys's point
about there maybe being a defensive player there that you're
interested in.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yeah, and I understand Bobby's points to the fact of
Bayern Murphy being a three tech and you don't need
a three tech necessarily in this draft overall, much less
with the very first pick that you take. So with
that in mind, would y'all be okay with Darius Robinson.
I mean, he's a guy that I was about to
say him He's a guy that could play from three
to seven. He's very versatile, he's two hundred and eighty pounds,
he's a great run defender. If that's what ends up happening,

(08:34):
where all the offensive linemen are off the board, you
don't feel comfortable with who's available, maybe you've traded back
into that twenty eight to thirty two range.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Yeah, and you take Darius Robinson. How do you feel
about that?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Compan Yeah?

Speaker 10 (08:44):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, I mean I'm with you. No, go ahead, quick, No, I.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Like it because to your point, the versatility, and I
think you do need that on the defensive line right now,
especially with some of the losses that you've taken at
the edge position and things like that. Now, I understand
that Byron Murphy is considered a three tech.

Speaker 9 (09:02):
I also think.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
That you've seen him play some one two haven't.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yes, I think he's capable, But I also do consider
who these guys are playing next to. Yeah, and when
you're playing next to Homie Jesus, Like, when you're playing.

Speaker 9 (09:16):
Next to what is the guy playing next to him?

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yeah? I mean you're gonna be able to do some
more three techy things because people are having to commit
to double team in him and having to deal with him.

Speaker 9 (09:26):
So I do think I.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Would be I was literally about to just bring him up.
I would be okay with Darius Robinson as well, because
of the versatility.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
All Right, potentially with all these keep an eye on this,
with all these offensive players, maybe going ahead of you,
you might be wiped out thinking about that. You know,
you might be looking at when they's so let's trade back,
Let's try. Okay, Tampa Bay is on the phone with
us right now. Tampa Bay currently sits at twenty six.
Tampa Bay's picked that we would pick up just for

(09:56):
that small two slot move that they made, we would
pick up their one tw twenty five, which is a
fourth round pick. Again, this is working off the Cowboys
charts and stuff like that. Okay, So just to start
it off, that's maybe an offer that we look at.
Right there, we pick up one twenty five, So we
cool with that. We got our fourth round pick.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
Right, Yeah, I'm cool with a nick.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
It's only because I'm looking at the other offers out here,
so I'm gonna wait until you're you're finished going through them.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right, Okay, that's that's what get That's where we just
start that's our start. Yeah, Arizona now calls us at
twenty seven, we pick up one thirty eight and one
sixty two, both fifth round picks. We interested in that
one at all. We didn't get our four. Yeah, but
now we're now after the Arizona. If we did the

(10:44):
Arizona trade, we pick up their picks. Like I say,
you now would have twenty seven, fifty six, eighty seven,
one thirty eight, one sixty two, one seventy four, two sixteen,
two thirty three, two forty four.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
That would be your draft haul.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
If you traded by picking up both fifths from Arizona,
that would be going from twenty four to twenty seven.
Now I'm gonna I'm gonna throw something out here. You
give me these multiple fives. Yeah, watch me try and
move these things going back up. Yeah, okay, and we'll
get into that.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Okay, We okay with that deal? We would would we
consider that deal?

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, I definitely, because as it sits right now, eighty
seven is your third round pick, right, and you don't
pick until one seventy four in the fifth and you
can kind of divvy that in half and you get
two picks in between.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
I'm okay, with that.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, that's pick I issue. We get picked one thirty eight,
which is a fifth, and pick one sixty two plus
our own fifths, so we're gonna have three fifths, is
what we're gonna do with that Arizona traite.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
You said you're gonna try and flip them.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Watch me, Okay, well watch me.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I mean I would definitely be I would be willing
to listening to it because to your point, like the
way the way that I really do think that the
start of that day too is going to be crazy
as far as the fourth and the fifth round, because
I just do.

Speaker 9 (12:05):
I do.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
I think some of these wide receivers are gonna fall,
are gonna be there, and then when you talk about
some of the offensive line value, I do think that
some of those guys are still gonna be there too.
So I would I would flip the fifth. I would
be open to that.

Speaker 9 (12:17):
I like the Tampa Bay situation.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Okay, that's what it's gonna ask. That's what's gonna ask.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
The Tampa Bay situation still is the ones that's intriguing
to us because we get the fourth round pick.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Right, but the fifths are to your point, though, you
can do something with the fifth.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, we could Nic will find me some players
in this one.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of value there.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
No, there is, there is especially there in the fifth.
It depends on what you need going into day three.
But I also like the idea of packaging those and
moving up in the third or something like that. I
personally like the Arizona went a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
As of now, I shued Buffalo's on the phone now
at twenty eight. If you trade with Buffalo, you're gonna
go from twenty four to twenty eight. You're gonna pick
up a fourth. You're gonna pick up pick one twenty
eight fourth round pick and pick one forty four, which
is a fifth. You make the Buffalo trade, you're now
looking at twenty eight, fifty six, eighty seven, one twenty eight,

(13:11):
one forty four, one seventy four, two sixteen, two thirty three,
two forty four.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's after the Buffalo trade.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So you pick up that middle, you pick up that
fourth one twenty eight and pick one forty four. That
gives you your fourth, and then now you're looking at
two fives.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Quick question, how comfortable are y'all? Where's your comfort level
as far as where does it end. Whenever you're saying, okay,
cowboys are trading back, how far back do you want
to go? Before you started getting start getting uncomfortable with it?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
The problem I'm the problem I'm running into is right
now is if I'm starting to feel like that that
maybe my guy's not going to be on the board
at twenty, I mean I might have to really, I
might have to. I'm willing to really bail. I'm going
to take this thing all the way to Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, at thirty two.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
I'm okay with taking it to the second round even Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I did for our exercise. I did it just to
get to thirty two.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:07):
Can I explain what that means? What I'm saying right now?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
When when you when like when you're taking this thing back,
like maybe your player's not there. I'm comfortable going, I
think Nick as well as comfortable going all the way
back to Kansas City's pick at thirty two and trying
to pick up as many of these picks because like
to see the Buffalo trades inviting to me just because
of the fourth round pick we pick up and the
fifth round pick as well. So I'm not going too

(14:31):
terribly far. I'm going four players back, So okay, and
that's a really good question. Are you worried?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
How far back are you willing to go? Are you? Because?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
To me, I think there is some value after say
and that's why some of these trades, like twenty six,
twenty seven to twenty eight, I feel like going back
that just that little bit you still pick up good
but I still feel like I'm going to get a
really good player there. Ye too, Yeah, I feel like that,
you know, And I feel like I could go all

(15:02):
the way to I think I could go all the
way to Kansas City at thirty two and potentially grab
the right guy that I want. I mean, we are
we agreement on that or agree?

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
There is see to me, I don't feel like so
far that we've had a trade that we wouldn't accept.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Yeah, right, yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
I'm interested in all of them. The Buffalo one is
really appealing though.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, yeah, okay, do you have anybody in mind when
if you were to go to twenty eight?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Do you have somebody in.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
Mind to twenty eight? Specifically?

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah, it would that would be a Kingsley Suamatia situation.
And Morgan situation. Sure, Tyler Guidon's still there twenty eight.
I mean, you're still gonna have offensive lineman there. Let's
say the offensive linemen are off the board A or B.
They don't like those guys sitting there on the board
at that at that time, then you have the opportunity
to take Darius Robinson or if you want to go

(15:57):
ahead and get that linebacker just grab Edgeran Cooper.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
That's why I think I would.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Be okay with if they ended up going all the
way back into like the first five picks up the
second round, even because they can still get that linebacker
to open up Day two and then they're probably picking
up two to three picks.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, Yeah, that would be That.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Would be fascinating.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
If the isn't just go receiver.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a thought, it's
a thought.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
I will say there's gonna be a lot of hype
around Brian Thomas Junior and Xavier Mitchell and potentially at
excuse me.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Mitchell.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
I think there's going to be a lot of hype
around those names. As as the night one starts to
kind of slide slide off and the slide off the board.
There's gonna be a lot of talk around those guys.
Somebody's gonna take a take a swing on one of
those guys there late in those late in the first round.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
Have a Do you have a one on lab Maconky.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I have a two?

Speaker 9 (16:49):
Have a two as well.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, but I've seen him at the end of the
first round.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of San Francisco, Kansas City,
those those teams are kind of talking about. Okay, Baltimore's
on the phone, Aisha, they're gonna a lawst I'm skipping
Detroit because Detroit doesn't have the capital to do it.
Detroit would have to give next to your pick, So
I'm gonna skip them. Okay, if you go now to
the Baltimore trade of this, Baltimore's on the phone and uh, Baltimore,

(17:17):
they're gonna give you. They're gonna give you just pick.
They're gonna give you a third round pick. They're gonna
give you pick ninety three. So now what you do
is you have your current configuration, but you've added another three,
so that gives you you're going to thirty, the fifty six,
the eighty seven, ninety three and one, seventy four, two sixteen,

(17:39):
two thirty three, two forty four. Okay, the key with
the pick ninety three, that's the end of the third
round top one hundred. That gets us in the top
one hundred, but it also lets us since we're missing
out on that four for the next day, we get
first crack. We get first crack at that, right, Yeah,
So how would we consider that? Is that important enough

(18:02):
to you guys? The Baltimore trade, we're gonna go to thirty,
but we're going to pick before the start of day three.
Where's that on the level of comfort for you guys?

Speaker 6 (18:15):
I think I like the Buffalo trade just a little
bit more, just because there's more capital there with fourth
and fifth as opposed to just getting the third.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yeah, but I'd be just.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Fine with it at the end of the day picking
up another top one hundred pick. That's that's a huge
value in its own right.

Speaker 11 (18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
I mean I'm one of the people that thinks that,
you know, do they have the ability to go tackle?

Speaker 12 (18:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:35):
But I think the guard class is that that's where
the third round is where the third the guard class
to me is rich, still kind of rich in that area.
So if you ended up grabbing like I don't know,
I don't know, if I don't know, if Homie mixing
in the third round, but if you end up grabbing
like a Christian mahogani er, yeah, that too, you can
you can tackle that in the third round. And then

(18:56):
also two from even a linebacker perspective, if you were
to go linebacker the third round and now's later third
round area, that's where it's still kind of it still
still has some value, Like there's some guys there that
maybe you if you have if you have the opportunity
to double dip, you can kill two birds with one
stone by having that third So but I do I
think the Buffalo one is the best one so far too.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
Though.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Okay, we're gonna take our break here, and when we
come back, I want to finish up because San Francisco
and Kansas City also call.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I want to finish this up.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
And then we're gonna then we're gonna turn around and
we're gonna trade back up. We're gonna take this draft
draft capital, We're gonna pick which one of these things want.
We're going to talk about trading back up and see
if we can and can get back into this thing
and and and do some good things.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And then when that's all.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Done, we'll we'll move the Twitter questions to the back
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Speaker 6 (22:37):
I'll tell you what, that party will be very interesting
if they trade out of the first round.

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Speaker 5 (22:48):
Claire out, hurry it will ye Yeah, Yeah, it's going
to be tense man, Like I was talking about on
our show. It's just how much pressure is on this
team to get contributes. Yeah, these guys immediately like, yeah,
they can't play around, they can't play around.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
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Speaker 2 (23:29):
How about that Draft Show every day next week? You're
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Speaker 3 (23:32):
Ia?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (23:35):
I so, y'all, Like I struggle with like, you're great hypotheticals.

Speaker 9 (23:40):
I'm ready to get to the.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Ready from the start, Ready for the real thing, the
real deal, Holy Field.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
All right, let's trade a couple more of these picks
if we can. All right, We've we've talked about all righty.
We traded with or talked about trades with Tampa, Arizona, Buffalo,
and Baltimore the before I went to break. The Baltimore
and San Francisco deals are very similar because Baltimore traded
you picked ninety three, which was a third round pick,

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and now San Francisco is offering pick ninety four, which
is a third round pick. So if you're considering the
Baltimore or San Francisco trades, they're virtually the same pick,
with the exception of one spot different both third round picks,
So that something to consider.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
You get Baltimore on the phone.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
You get San Francisco on the phone, you would probably
take the Baltimore trade because it's one pick better in
the third round.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Ye, not doing nothing, not helping you, sanfrid.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Not helping, not helping at all. All Right, Kansas City's
on the clock. Or excuse me, Kansas City is going
to call Yaisha, They're going to offer you. They're going
to offer you pick ninety five and pick one thirty one,
which is a fourth round pick, so you get you're

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in that range. We talked about ninety two, excuse me,
ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, which again ends the
ends the second day, which I think is key because
but Kansas City's called and they said, hey, we'll let
you in the second day, but we'll also let you
in the end of the fourth round.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So now by going from twenty four to thirty two,
all right, Nick, tell me you still got some players
in range for you.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Yes, he got excited.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
Ok, I'm your trade. You want to trade second round?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
You keep saying that, Okay, we'll work on that another day. No,
but I'm okay with this. I think this is the
best commander's trade. Sound like a good one too. If
you want to pick up a bunch of picks.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
Yeah, no kidding, you talk about capital and top one
hundred picky, then get dan Quin on the phone and
strike a deal. But I think this Kansas City trade,
if you want to stay in the first round, I
think there will still be some good offensive linemen available
there at thirty two, and you also kind of have
the freedom to take again the linebacker or an edge rusher,
or if you want.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
To jump on anything else.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
I think thirty two still makes to be able to
do that for the guys that you would expect to
be available from.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
Let's just stay at twenty two.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
The guys you would expect to be available from twenty
two to thirty two. I feel like you can get
any of those guys in that range because you look
at the teams that are picking in that range. Right
you look at the Tampa Bays and Detroit. Those guys
are going to be focusing on defensive lineman. Sure, if
you want to get a defensive lineman, then maybe you
pick somewhere in between them. But you look at Baltimore,
San Francisco, Kansas City, Detroit, even you can make the

(26:28):
argument receiver hunting. These guys are receiver hunting, and the
Cowboys necessarily, I know there's some mocks out there that
have them taken a receiver here in the first round.
I don't think the receiver hunting in the first round.
So I think you could still slide back. Those teams
are taking different positions and probably what you're expecting will
maybe one or two offensive lineman can come off the board. Yeah,
but I think you have to be comfortable in doing that,
and I think you would be yeah cool.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I mean to Knick's point, I do think there's gonna
be some value there. So it's just these quarterbacks are
going to go. We're going to see a run on tackles.
I'm sure there's going to be some value there, especially
if you're talking about from an offensive standpoint, right, I
think that offensively a lot to you point to your point,
A lot of those guys are going to go. If
you want to go defense and you have a first

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round round, great on a guy. I venture to say
that they're going to be there towards the end of
these rounds.

Speaker 9 (27:16):
So yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Right, of all the ones that we dealt with, and
let me let me let me just maybe put in
put into perspective what the situation. We look at point
point totals on our chart, and each pick is a
signed of value. If you were to make the Tampa
Bay trade, your total draft haul but everything that you

(27:38):
had would be four hundred and two points. The next
most positive trade for you would be the Kansas City
trade at four oh one. If you added up all
the points, the value of all your picks, the Kansas
City trade would make you at four oh one. The
next two tie that would be Arizona at four hundred,
Buffalo at four hundred, the one that has the next

(28:02):
most value to it with Baltimore at three ninety seven,
and the San Francisco trade only gets you three ninety.
So if you just added up all the draft of
the trade, the Tampa one makes the most sense. You
don't get the most draft capital, but you get the
fourth round pick you were hunting, Okay.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
And you're picking six spots earlier than Kansas City? Who
would be the right next?

Speaker 10 (28:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
So is there any is there all the trades we've
gone through, is there anyone that really you'd say, Okay,
get that GM on the phone, and let's make this
trade Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
I was about to say it would be I just
think there's just so much we're going to look up
in that third and fourth round, and we're gonna be
giddy about the players that are still there and are
still available in those rounds, and I think being able
to take advantage of that would be really I think
it would be very helpful going into that last day
of the draft and knowing what the heck you got.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Okay, so you guys are interested in going all the
way down to the thirty two?

Speaker 9 (29:02):
Yes, yeah, sure?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Any any you're not sure you should?

Speaker 5 (29:08):
I mean, yeah, I'm sure, but I still really I
still was really intrigued by the Buffalo thing too, though,
And I know that it's not like the best on
the points system, but I just.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Let me walk you through. Then, let me walk you
through this. Then all right, let me go through these
various deals, and then we're going to take what picks
we got, and I'm going to go through each team
that we had an opportunity, and I'm going to try
and trade up. And you guys, tell me if if
it works out for you by using the selections that

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we had plus the picks that we got, tell me
which which one of these deals seems to work the
best for you?

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
After the Arizona trade, I mentioned this Aisha, we got picks.
We got one thirty eight, one sixty two, one seventy
four all fifth round picks.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm taking those and I'm calling the LA Chargers. The
LA Chargers have.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Two picks in the fourth round. They have picked one
oh five and pick one ten, both fourth round picks,
both early in the fourth round. Nick interested in moving
one thirty eight, one sixty two, one seventy four all
fifth round picks for one oh five or one ten?

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, uh well it's one O five or one ten.
I was right, it's one, O, five and one.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
No, No, it's one or Yeah, you're gonna.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Be probably staying home. I'm probably staying home there. I
don't I don't love three for one in that situation.
Just to go up one one round on day three.
I think you could still get value there in the
fifth with with those three picks.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
It'd be tough, but I'd probably say.

Speaker 12 (30:50):
No to that.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I ashual, I get you your fourth round pick, but
I got to give up three to get there. Three
three draft picks.

Speaker 9 (31:00):
No, but you ain't. You ain't got the luxury in
this draft. You can't be playing these games all right?

Speaker 6 (31:04):
If if that were to happen, Let's say you get
one oh five, Yeah, you're not picking again until two,
two thirty three to sixteen.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
You know how painful it's gonna be to just sit
there and wait to see what happens.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
We're gonna be doing that on day three regardless.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I think think, but think about think about the think
about the situation though, with the number, the first four
picks that you get.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
Yeah, that's that's fair.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
So you could be so you think they would be
chilling if they get they get some guys that they
think are potential starters right away, and.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Then you just you got a shot to get four
players before one o five, by by by one oh five.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
I think it depends how much value put into quantity
over quality or vice versa, and the.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Strike r eves get big becr.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
That's a lot. First of all, that's a lot of
people to be able to pick up.

Speaker 9 (31:50):
Yeah, in the top one hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
All right, So we're not interested in that one buffalo.
If we did the Buffalo trade, we would we would
take we would take pick one twenty eight it's a
fourth round pick. We would take one forty four, both
those picks we got if that's a fifth, so we
take a four and a five. We call New England

(32:13):
for pick one oh three, which is the top of
the fourth round, or we can go back to our
buddies at the Chargers at one oh five or one
ten for a fourth. So we're taking our fourth round
pick one twenty eight, and we're gonna dance that thing
up to one oh three to New England, but the
price of it's going to cost us our fifth interested

(32:34):
in that guys, or we can go to the Chargers
with the same deal.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Question, are we comparing this to all of the trades
or is this like a very like individual in a
vacuum type type situation with Buffalo?

Speaker 7 (32:45):
Yeah, which one?

Speaker 8 (32:46):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
The vacuums?

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Vacuum?

Speaker 6 (32:48):
Yeah, okay, if it's in a vacuum, because I'm not
gonna have to Kansas City trade.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
I'm like, well, you have a third and fourth.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
But if it's in a vacuum and Buffalo is the
only one that's that's made that call to you in
the first round and you're trying to pack your those around,
I'm okay with I'm okay with it because you're you're
getting an a top one hundred. Yeah, and sure you
got to give up the fifth, but you're basically just
moving up to the to one o three to grab
a guy early on day three.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm gonna dance you from one twenty eight in the
fourth to one oh three. I'm gonna take you twenty
five spots up to start the day of day three.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
That's gonna cost you a fifth round pick. I have
a feeling I know what she's gonna say.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
I mean, no, I'm I'm I mean, listen, I'm indecisive.
I'm trying to think about the fifth round.

Speaker 9 (33:35):
Do they have it? They have a fifth round pick?

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Right, it still would you You still would have the
fifth of one s so you.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Still would have a pick even if you did this
and move up to the right.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm just trying to get you higher up the board.
I'm trying to get you.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm gonna get you twenty five spots up to take
your guy to start Day three.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Well, I mean yeah, when we started getting into that
fifth round, you know, that's that's when it that U
Dallas Day and Audus stuff coming. They started looking at
the under after free just what they about to pay them.

Speaker 9 (34:01):
So I would be cool with that. I would be
cool with.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
You because I think that they'll have some things figured
out on the back end post draft to get some
of those guys that maybe didn't get drafted, like a TJ. Bass,
who I thought was a fifth round pick last year
at the feast.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, I like what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
All right, this once again Nick, for you, Nick Baltimore,
if you did the Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Trade, just say you did.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, that would be you would send pick eighty seven,
which is your own, and then pick ninety three that
you got from Baltimore. I'm gonna call Green Bay and
I'm gonna try and get their second round pick pick
fifty eight or the Houston Texans pick fifty nine. So
I'm giving my own third round pick and I'm given

(34:46):
the Baltimore third round pick to Green Bay at fifty
eight or Houston at fifty nine to get in the
second round. So I'm giving up my two to go
up into the second round pick fifty eight or fifteen.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Imagine not picking from fifty eight to one seventy four.
That would be that would be torture for us in here,
at least think about the quality.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Of the player.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
Yeah, that's that's where I'm thinking about here, because you
get to you get three picks in the top fifty
eight to fifty nine. Yeah, but yeah, nothing in the third,
nothing in the fourth, and then you basically have to
watch the entire fifth go by before you finally get
that fifth round. Com pick ummm. I'm staying put with

(35:30):
what I got, And that's the situation. Yeah, So we're
not we're not interested in doing that.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Yeah, pick no, especially not in the second round.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
The same thing we could have done to San Francisco.
It's the same trade we could if San Francisco. If
we took the San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Deal, then hurry up and wait, it's gonna hurt all.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Right, man, I'm glad you guys want to just sit
here and pick. I mean, how is your bored? You're
bored then by what you guys are telling me. Your
stacks and your boards are deep enough that you're like, nah, Brian,
and I can't. You can't entice me with a second
round pick right now. You can't entice me with a
third round pick right now. Do you have that much

(36:07):
confidence in your boards that you were gonna just pick
players and you're gonna help this football team.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
I have a lot of confidence until it gets to
about one to twenty. That's that's kind of like where
I'm pinpointing as far as Okay, I'd like to find
value in one twenty, So what is that?

Speaker 7 (36:22):
That would be mid fourth round.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Yeah, if you can pick up more picks in that range,
I'm cool with it. And but if you're sacrificing you know,
that sixty to one twenty range, I don't know. I
still feel like there's some really good talent there on
that back half. I would love to be able to grab.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
I think the early second has some guys that can
come in and be difference makers right away. Even so,
so I and also to this team just gets a
little funky in the second round. So I don't want
them doing a whole bunch of extra stuff if they
ain't got to do.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Me so at these adding the Green Bay pick in
the second or adding that Houston pick.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Don't over complicate ite, all right, we aim to everybody
seems to like the Kansas City trade.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Right, Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
All right, that's the one that we went into thinking that.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, if Kansas City called and said Andy Reid called
us and.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Said, hey, we were interested in doing this, this is
what we would do.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
All right, after the kan Sea trade, we made it.
We've got picked ninety five, which is a third round pick.
We've got pick one thirty one, which is a fourth Okay,
I'm gonna call Vegas at seventy seven, which is a
third round pick. So I'm gonna try and go from

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ninety five to seventy seven or seventy eight, which is
the Commanders in the third round. But it's gonna cost
me my fourth round pick. Pick one thirty.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
One, say one more time for me.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I'm sorry, no problem, not the numbers.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
After the kan Sea trade, I'm gonna move pick ninety
five that we got it's a third round, and pick
one thirty one, which is a fourth round which we got.
I'm gonna call Las Vegas and I'm trying to get
picked seventy seven, which is a third round pick, or
pick seventy eight from the Commanders, which is a third
round pick. Would you be interested in going up to

(38:18):
seventy seven or seventy eight for R ninety five and
giving up our fourth round one thirty one.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
What do you expect to fly off the board late
round three?

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Is that probably where you hope that McKinley Jackson doesn't
fall off the board, or if you're still linebacker hunting,
you're hoping Trevin Wallace doesn't fall off the board. I
think this depends on what you need there in late
round three, because let's say it's gone to plan. You've
got an offensive lineman and you right Jonathan Brooks in
the second round, then you're probably you are going to
be hunting for a run stopper, whether that's linebacker, defensive tackle.

(38:50):
If you expect them to fly off the board they're
late in round three, then yeah, I'm making this call.
But if you're like, hey, there's a group of guys
here that we enjoy, we feel like we're comfortable with
getting any of them. Yeah, and I'm staying putting taking
the extra that's a great.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That's a great, great thought. What what position though, if
we were to go up, what position at seventy seven
or seventy eight do you have in mind?

Speaker 7 (39:12):
Linebacker? Probably?

Speaker 9 (39:13):
Yeah, linebacker for you?

Speaker 7 (39:15):
Yeah, is.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
We're dreaming if Peyton Wilson's.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
Yeah, it's definitely I think so, But I mean medicals
who knows.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
You just never know, because I think we thought, uh
Beemer told me last in my last show, like we're thinking,
I'm over thinking to Andre Sweat's gonna fall. I and
think Duke Duke Dane has him in the fourth.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, and and and a lot of that is the
whispers I think the Dane's hearing about the one I mean.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
And of course it's of course his behavioral stuff, but
you hear some of the stuff about Peyton Wilson.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
Yeah, it's it's that scary too. You may be that
nervous about it.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Medical is very scary possible.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
I think for him to fall as well. What about
I don't know. I think Corner's depths depth go a
lot further.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Yeah, But I think to nixt point DT is probably
the biggest thing because I think there's a distinct drop
off after that third round on talent. There's some a
few guys sprinkled in there, if you guys sprinkled in there,
but you will see the difference in the guys coming
off the board once that's over.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, can I interest you guys in the receiver at
seventy seven?

Speaker 9 (40:23):
You know what, you might be able to twist my
leg a little bit better.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
There'll be some fun guys there available in the third round.
I feel like I've been banging on this table. The
third round is going to be so.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Much to keep an open mind here, don't we guys?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (40:34):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
But in that scenario where you're going offensive line Jonathan Brooks,
then you go receiver and you have yet to address
anything on defense going into day three, that's or going
in not into day three, going into pick eighty seven,
and that's where you're just like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Man, Yeah, I just kind of feel like that if
they could, if they can get in that first pick,
if they could take care of that offensive line position,
whether it's the tackle of the center, it would make
a difference.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I think I could.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I think I could keep my options open. I know,
I mean, I don't want to sit in draft for need,
but you know, I'm probably gonna have to.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
Write yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely one hundred percent until
you get to Day three.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I feel like, can I get my running back at
seventy seven?

Speaker 7 (41:14):
You could? I think most definitely.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
So let's say in that situation they go ahead and
take the linebacker in the second round. Yeah, there there
will be some running backs that'll fly off the board
there in the third. You're expecting guys like Jalen Wright
to come off in the third, probably Bucky Irving to come.

Speaker 7 (41:29):
Off in the third.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
I'm trying to phone on running backs. Blake kram Marshawn
Lloyd will probably come off in the third. So there's
gonna be some guys there that are just flying flying
from Braylan Allen audric estimate. And if you start seeing
those guys really come off the board, yeah, get on
the phone and go get that running back.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Okay, what what I'm gathering here is you guys aren't
excited about making this trade.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
It just depends. It depends what position you need.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
I think, going in the third round, like because you
could you could sell me on hey, these running backs
are coming off the board, we need to move up
twelve spots and go get our guy.

Speaker 7 (41:55):
You could sell me on that one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
But if you're looking at you know, the linebacker, the
defensive tackle class, it just kind of depends how the
board's falling at that point.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, I agree, I appreciate you guys doing so.

Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, this is fun.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
That was a little trade up trade well actually trade
back trade up.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
As you can see though, it's it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Come down to a lot of it had to do
with trying to get either that pick in the late
day two.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Or pick up that fourth round pick.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
You know, and my scouts here are more than willing
to go to Kansas City to if Kansas City wants
to come from thirty two up to twenty four. My
guys seemed like that they would be good with that.
So all right, when we come back, let's get to
your Twitter questions.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
We will do that next year. Got the draft show,
We'll be right back, all right.

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Speaker 3 (45:26):
You like that.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I kind of moved the show around a little bit.
We usually we'll do Twitter on the twenty in between,
but I'm going to get to these questions. I just
wanted to make sure I had time to get through
all that trade stuff. And I appreciate you guys. Numbers
give everybody a headache, you know, at times, and you're
dealing with them, but I just had to see how
committed you guys were to picking these players. Sometimes you think,

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you know, scouts have this this way of saying, gimme picks,
gimme picks, give me picks, give me picks. But you
got to kind of be able to navigate around to
kind of get the players you want.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
So what's up now that I don't want to sound
nothing to nothing but or we're Fabian love It from
from Florida State is.

Speaker 9 (46:10):
A DT Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:12):
Yeah, correct, and he's draftable yet correct?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:16):
Okay, Well, because we were trying to figure out we were.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Talking about size. Gods size, he's sixty five three three three.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Thirty five, right, you're just you're looking for those big one.
I just didn't see it.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
I just haven't seen. I haven't seen. I just haven't
seen him. And I didn't know what y'all had him
labeled as because some people look at him as some
for some reason, despite his size.

Speaker 9 (46:36):
He could do some d and things. But I know
that's random. I'm sorry. I didn't mean. I just I
just thought about, like, looking at DT's that.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Are talking about him to nine in draft one on one, Yeah,
bring up them when people ask you, Hey, I should
give you some big defensive tackles that are three hundred
and thirty five pounds or plus.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
We're talking about size. It's not a lot of there's
not a lot of guys that are over.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
Three hundred pounds.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
And he's tall and he's got a little way to him.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
So I was just no, all good man, All good,
All right, let's get into in our last few moments here.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Let's get into a little Twitter on the twenty Twitter.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
All right, thank you very much, Beamer for Beamer, thank
you for all these years of putting up with me.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I really do appreciate you. Brother. You've been a big
part of this too.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's all good, all right. We got h we got
red Man red his He's got a hypothetical for you guys, yusuh,
I know you love hypotheticals.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Let's say the Cowboys are able to pick.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Graham Barton as Nick Harris just cartwheels down though. Yeah
in the first yeah, but but they drafted me in
the first but they're not able to add a tackle.
It's the fifth round and Limmer and Norzad are there.
Would you be willing to pick another center and play
Barton at garter tackle?

Speaker 7 (47:52):
I like what you're thinking, Red.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I thought that was a great question.

Speaker 9 (47:55):
Fantastic question. Go ahead, like what.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
You're thinking, Red, I think this would be uh, this
would be Armagh and in the fan base if you
didn't get a tackle in the draft, but it would.
I think there's some there's some options there because you
can it was either Lema or Norzad there in the
fifth Yeah, you could. You could try to work those
guys in at center and you could throw them in
for competition at center. And understand that Graham Barton does

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have guard flex as well. But if you're if you're
looking at Graham Barton and you're seeing a guy that
is probably going to be one of the smartest players
on the offensive line. I can't say the smartest because
you have Zach Martin still in the building, but one
of the players in the smartest players on the offensive line.
Do you want him manning up that center position and
calling out things from from the line or are are
you okay him doing that at left guard and helping
the guy next to him and then kind of doing

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that in a combo deal you also got Zach Martin there,
then it would kind of be a committee job. It
depends how how comfortable Solari is with pre snap communication
and who he would want being able to being able
to call things out pre snap.

Speaker 9 (48:52):
Now that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
The whole scenario is, and I know we know that
Graham Barton does have some but to your point, the
fact that when he plays center, you see how much
he's talking, how communicative he is, how how much command
he has, and so it would be different if he
was just gonna play that guard. And I know the
fan base would be pissed if if you didn't gave
a tackle, but you got one of the best ones
in the NFL right now technically, so it's like.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
The best guards in the league too.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, I know, so interesting scenario. It would be
an interesting scenario. I will say, I know, Brian, you
brought up last week when we were talking about uh
maybe it was earlier this week when you're talking about center,
and that you know, some of those guys that are
later you don't really have much of an upgrade. I
think bow Limmer fires off the ball better. I think
his his attitude and also to I think his anchor

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is stronger than what Tyler biadises was because that was
one of the biggest things is that you just you
couldn't see him get to the second level and control blocks.
But then also too, he just was like losing at
like initially on the snap. So I wouldn't mind a
bowl Limmer either if you're gonna go on those later rounds.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
So if they drafted bow Limmer, then they would be
replacing Tyler Biattish with a native of Tyler, Texas.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
So let's go Bolimmer. Let's to bring him in. Let's
bring him in.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
He knows way too much, he does way but you
know what, you know what, in day three we're gonna
be damn glad we got him.

Speaker 9 (50:14):
Here to shine.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
This kid from Roswell Geordan.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
All right, this comes from Ben Done, Ben Done ask,
which sounds fake.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
No, it's a real Twitter guy. He's got He's got
a nice picture, been done. He's got a nice Twitter picture. Yeah,
I've been done. He asked which draft prospect not on
the Cowboys thirty visit list? Would you want to see
the Cowboys draft in the first two rounds that also
fills a positional need?

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Oh, this is a fascinating one unless you first Nick. Yeah, yeah,
I'm going through. I'm going through the list. Right now.
Zach Frasier. Yeah, Zach Fraser would be an interesting one.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
If he's there at fifty six or if you're trading
back into the early second round, that wouldn't be a
bad guy to pick in the thirties.

Speaker 7 (51:01):
So Zach Frasier, that's.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
The first name that came to came to my mind. Really,
it was Zach Frazer. Yeah, Zach Frazier. I am like,
I've got this.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
This center thing in my head that I can't once
once the first round gets passed, I've got to kind
of figure out, like, Okay, now what I'm gonna do
the rest of the draft. I gotta try and do that.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
I do have a center, have a center block, I
guess is what I'm doing here.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
You have a problem a little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
But uh yeah, I think that I think that that
Fraser would would make a lot of sense for me.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I mean, no, they've met with all the linebackers that
I was even interested in. I don't know, it's gonna
sound ridiculous, but and again, I don't think that they're
gonna go corner. But if if if a key On
Mitchell was there, well Quy Minchell was there or one
of those guys or Cooper Dejan.

Speaker 9 (51:47):
Was there or something.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
I don't know if I would just be super like
no no, no, no, no, no, no no about it,
because I think it is time to replenish that corner room.

Speaker 9 (51:55):
I think, I really do think it is.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
I mean, with the loss of Stefan Gilmour, which is
gonna be huge or whatever the case may be. After
Trayvon Diggs and dron Bland, I mean, you're you're sitting
up here and then a guy like Cooper he has
that flex, so you might be looking for a nickel
for next even next year, right, So yeah, I think
honestly enough, we haven't talked about corner a whole bunch,

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but you've mentioned how much you think corner is going
to be important at the top of this draft.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, so yeah, I like that.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
You know what's unfortunate that was like a late Day two,
early Day three corner that I was I was kind
of pounding the table for early on here in this
draft show cycle, and it was Kyrie Kyrie Jackson out
of Oregon Player. I've loved him the entire process, and
then I just saw mock earlier this week that had
him going at thirty two and I was like, well, damn.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
People are figuring it out.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
That guy.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
He's got some length and he can cover and he's sticky.
I could I ask you this one's for you. This
comes from Shannon Washington asked this question. If brock Bowers
were to fall to us within re are we taking
him along with ferguson the tight end from Georgia brock Bowers.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
I think because he can do so much and you're
talking about in fairness, you're talking about you need like
an extension of your backfield is from like the running
back position.

Speaker 9 (53:20):
He's not a running back. He can do some running back.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Things out the backfield and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (53:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
I struggle with taking a tight end that taking a
tight end that early, But somebody's gonna grab him and
he's gonna piss us off every years and see him.

Speaker 9 (53:37):
You guys have a first on him.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Yeah, if he's slipping to twenty four and he's there
at twenty four, then I'm gonna force a team to
overpay and come up.

Speaker 9 (53:45):
And That's that's what I was getting at.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
More so because it's like, as much as I would
love him on the team, how much is he gonna
help and also to.

Speaker 9 (53:55):
Do we have the step respectfully?

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Do we have the guys that are gonna be willing
to help him do the things he does best because
he can do so many different things.

Speaker 9 (54:04):
Like I don't want a guy to come in here
that can did a whole.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Bunch of college and then he comes in and he's
just like a one trick pony. He's not, so I
would try.

Speaker 9 (54:11):
I would.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
I would hold him hostage for ransom and figure something
out at that point.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
All right, last question here before we wrap this up,
Eric Broxton, I think I got that right. Eric Broxton says,
NFL draft gurus keep predicting splash players like Xavier Worthy
and Anidi Mitchell at twenty four, which makes no sense
to me? Do you get the feeling that this might happen?

Speaker 7 (54:41):
Run that back again.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
He's saying that the he he's he can't understand why
all the draft gurus are predicting that the Cowboys are
going to take Xavier Worthy or Enodi Mitchell at twenty four.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
He says, this makes no sense to me. Do you
get the feeling that this might happen?

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Now?

Speaker 6 (55:00):
I don't feel like this will happen. Yeah, I don't
feel like it will. I feel like the only receiver
they might take at twenty four, And when I say might,
I'm taking with a very much a grain AsSalt five
percent Brian Thomas Junior. And that's if he's there. But
other than that, I don't feel like there's there's a
there's gonna be a guy kind of swinging there at
twenty four receiver.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
I mean, to your point, I know that there's like
a lot of receivers that we think are going to
be there early in that second round or whatever the
case may be.

Speaker 9 (55:29):
But if it's a guy that they really like, I
just don't.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
If somebody that is a star falls, I think that
they might do it. Like I know this sounds ridiculous.
I swear I didn't think they would take C. D.

Speaker 9 (55:40):
Lamb when they did. But if that's the best player
on the boys, best player on the board.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, well you guys good today.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Where's uh, where's Meliko Corley on board a second second round?

Speaker 6 (55:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (55:53):
I do.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
I had a third on him, but I'd be okay
with taking him in the second Yeah, That's where I'm
at with him.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, I mean, how's your boards coming along? By the way,
pray for me.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
It's gonna be a long weekend.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Putting these things together.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Man, I think I've got two hundred and fifteen players
on my board and I'm at the stack. Yeah, so
I'm working on it. I'm working on it.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Well.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Look forward to working with you guys tonight again. We
got Draft one oh one at the start. It'll be
on dallascowboys dot Com. It'll also be on one to
five three the Fan. Those will be streaming on both.
It should be a really fun, entertaining night for everybody
answering questions for my guys, for my scouts, for Nick Harris,
Iusham Morson, for Chris Beaman, the.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
Drive the bus today, Brian, Thanks, I.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Appreciate you guys, and I always, as always do I
want to thank Ed Cahill for coming up with the
idea about the draft show, Derek Eagleton and the Jones
family for allowing us to do that. We will see
you starting next week every day leading up to the draft,
so check your listings for that and keep scouting, keep
working on it, and we're going to keep investigating and

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educating as we do here on the Draft Show. You
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