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July 15, 2025 78 mins

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**Note: I managed-yet again-to mess up my audio settings at the last minute before we started recording resulting in me sounding blown out. Apologies!**

Returning guest Alexander Mckay and Kit Klarenberg, co-hosts of the Decline and Fall, discuss the deepening crisis Western imperialism faces as it wages proxy wars against Iran and Russia simultaneously and economic war against China.

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