Doc welcomes Anthrax and Shadows Fall lead guitarist, Jon Donais, to the show and they talk about Jon's start with metalcore band, Aftershock, in Western Massachusetts, what it was like being a metalhead in the hardcore scene, how Shadows Fall came together, and why they split with Phil Labonte, the legend of his alter ego, "Jonny Rock N Roll", how Shadows Fall and God Forbid careers intertwined over the years, why he thinks the band's old school approach helped them persevere in a sea of Nu Metal, their time on a major label, why Shadows Fall went on hiatus, how Jon joined Anthrax, what he's learned playing with such seasoned musicians, and his latest band he started with Matt Bachand, Living Wreckage, came to together. This episode features the songs "Harvest" by Bushido Code and "Sink Below" by Living Wreckage. Follow Jon on Instagram @jonathanmdonais and Twitter @jonshadfall1 Follow Doc on Instagram and Twitter @DocCoyle Please support this episode's sponsor Bushido Code at https://www.facebook.com/bushidocodemetal Please support this episode's other sponsor The Punk Rock MBA Podcast at https://www.prmbapodcast.com/ Listen to more great podcasts like this at soundtalentmedia.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices