Doc welcomes Periphery guitarist, Mark Holcomb, to the show and they talk about his early days with Haunted Shores in the DC area, how he ended up joining Periphery, what it was like fitting in with a band that already had an established sound, what he thinks makes the Djent scene special, how Periphery evolved as a live band throughout the years, how Steph Carpenter inspired the Clear EP concept, his thoughts on lead and rhythm guitar technique, his response to Misha's comments about not being able to make a living from the band and thoughts about surviving in the music business, getting sober and using discipline and mindfulness to help with productivity and creativity during the pandemic, working with Devin Townsend on the Haunted Shores EP, and the two chat about the NBA bubble basketball and forthcoming season. This episode features the songs "Viper" by Red Devil Vortex and "Norway Jose" by Haunted Shores. Follow Mark on Instagram and Twitter @MarkPeriphery Follow Doc on Instagram and Twitter @DocCoyle Please support this episode's sponsor Red Devil Vortex at www.reddevilvortex.com  Buy the official Ex-Man Podcast T-shirt at doccoyle.net/shop/ Listen to more great podcasts like this at soundtalentmedia.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices