Doc welcomes Volbeat guitarist, Rob Caggiano, to the show and they talk about how Rob got his start in New York with nu metal band, Boiler Room, why the band breaking up made him focus on producing records, how he hustled to get the gig in Anthrax, his unceremonious exit from Anthrax, which led him to form and thrive with the production team, Scrap 60, rejoining Anthrax and helping develop the Worship Music album, how The Damned Things supergroup came together, eventually leaving Anthrax for good, producing and then almost immediately joining Volbeat, and the two wax philosophical on how songwriting and production have evolved throughout the years. This episode features the songs "Equilibrium" by The Human Extinction, "Sweet Alibi" by Classic Case, and "Room 24" by Volbeat featuring King Diamond. Follow Jerry on Instagram and Twitter @RobCaggiano Follow Doc on Instagram and Twitter @DocCoyle Please support this episode's sponsor The Human Extinction at https://thehumanextinction.bandcamp.com/ Please support this episode's other sponsor Good Company with Scott Bowling at https://www.youtube.com/user/scottbowling1580 Please also support our new sponsor at HelloFresh. Go to HelloFresh.com/exman10 and use code exman10 for 10 free meals, including free shipping. Listen to more great podcasts like this at soundtalentmedia.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices