May 29, 2025 • 50 mins
J.P. Shadrick and Jeff Lageman recap the second week of Jaguars OTAs. Watch an in-depth analysis of wide receiver Dyami Brown's acclimation to the system, how DC Anthony Campanile is grouping the defensive ends or tackles and what each drill reveals. Plus, hear former Jaguar Jeff Lageman looks for first when he watches practice. This and more on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Dream Finders Homes.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It is Thursday, May twenty nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
J P. Chack, What a movie that's gonna be. Don't
miss that one. Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
It is Thursday. It's OTA Week number two. We've got
a busy hour ahead recapping it all, presented by dream
Finders Homes, the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. OTAs continue,
we'll figure out ways to grade the offseason work. Curious
(00:48):
Jeff Logoman's grading system when he's watching OTA's We'll get
to that here in a little bit, and then weighing
there quotes options on defense. That was a conversation earlier
in the week. Guys look a little more trim than
a season ago, especially on the defensive line. We're on
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
J P.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Good afternoon, Jeff afternoon, JP. What's man?
All good man? All good? Excited, uh, exciting time of year.
Mini camp just around the corner. Ota is in full swing.
Two more weeks before we hit the dead zone here
coming out of the dead zone. Nothing wrong with it.
I think an interesting thing that you bring up there
about grading the off season, Yeah, right, because this is
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the time of year in which everybody's getting a's.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Oh, everybody looks great, great shape, They're having the best
offseason they've ever had on it in the chemistry.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, getting stronger, bigger, faster, Yeah, the commitment prin mode
never ends. Yeah, it's uh, you know the old the
old saying is is that, uh, sometimes you just got
to wait and see until somebody gets hit in the
mouth to really see what they are and what they're
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gonna be. True, right, very true. So I'm excited for
this football team. I'm excited with some of the changes
that they've made. But I think there's also a part
of me that says, I'm not giving a grade out
until this football team can give a grade itself, right,
I mean, because the ultimate grade is what wins and losses.
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It's past fail in the NFL, that's all it is. Well,
you could great training camp if you make the team
or not. Oh, absolutely, And I think that that also
I'm really impressed with some of the things that they're
doing now. And and I don't know if this is
going to help them win football games or not. Okay, okay,
what do you got. But they're having this contest and
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I don't even know if I'm allowed to even talk
about this. Oh well, here we go. We're going to
talk about to find out. They're having this kind of
cool contest where they have teams on the team and
they're competing in different events. It's kind of like a
team building thing, right, And so they say weight room
stuff is this, well, well some of its weight room stuff,
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some of it is is different. They come up with
different competitions to have, so in other words, you have
like these teams that are made up of different players.
You know, I think they had like a draft or
we were able to select players. So you have you know,
eight or nine or ten man teams, whatever it is,
and each team competes in these different events that they
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have kind of on a weekly basis. And when I
saw it, I was like, that really reminds me of
the team building exercise that Pete Carroll came up with
way back in the day when I was with the Jets,
and it was fun stuff. And the stuff that we
did was in training camp, but because of OTAs now
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becomes so prevalent. Now it's a great opportunity to do
it throughout thet s. And then at the end of
the road there's going to be a prize. And I'm
not going to say what the prize is going to be.
I'll let them talk about that at some point. But
it's cool watching these players pull together with their own
team to have camaraderie with the competition and then to
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push each other kind of along the way, because competition
is the greatest motivator that there is in the off season,
and you can tell that this team is creating a
lot of bonds that wouldn't normally be there if you
didn't have these kind of things. Today was a medball competition, wow,
where they were doing like a relay race, throwing the
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medball to eat to their teammates. I'm pretty good at
that down and back and then you know, the winner
obviously wins. And then there was a med ball throwing
contest over the goalpost inside the Miller Electric Center, and
of course the big guys were doing pretty well with that.
And then there was a kind of a med ball
throwing contest where you throw it and then once it
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stops rolling, you pick it up and throw it again.
The first one down and back of the field wins.
It's just cool stuff, and I'm excited to see that
they're having these kind of things because it brings everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Closer and it breaks up the monotony of the offseason programs.
Not just meetings for a number of hours and then
on the field for an hour and a half and
go home. It's like you need something to kind of
keep well, keep motivating, and I think they're pro players.
You should be motivated anyway. It's a voluntary period. Let's
get some team chemistry going.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You spend a lot of time building chemistry within the rooms. Yeah,
you know, defensive line, right, Okay, we're all hanging out together,
you know, and doing our thing and working out together,
lifting together, practicing together, meeting together. But hey, look, I
don't spend a whole lot of time with a running
back or a wide receiver. And these teams that they
have are diverse, you know, across the position groups, and
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it's a great opportunity to to I think, create a
bond with other guys on the team that maybe you
wouldn't ordinarily have and from what I understand, it was
an idea by the strength coach, the new strength coach
that they have, and kudos to him because you can
really tell that the players are embracing it. Got an
opportunity to watch it today again. You know who has
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a step ahead in working with different position groups. Travis
Hutter wide receiver and defensive back and Liam Cohen after
practice earlier this week explaining that yes, it's going and
it's going pretty well.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
He is still learning. He's been learning a ton defensively
and offensively as we know, you know, but that was
more so fundamentals techniques. It wasn't a ton of eleven
on eleven seven on. It was more fundamentals techniques communication.
That was what that kind of last Wednesday was. And
he's been learning with those guys and meet with him
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extra as he's needed to.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Said coach Liam Cohen talking about the defensive work one
day last week on the field, but he's been in
both meeting rooms throughout each day and getting a full
dose of Jaguar football on both sides.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, And if I had to put like a percentage
on what amount of work that he would have to
have with the offense versus what he would have to
have as a defensive player to get ready to be
a true two way player. It definitely has to lean
more towards offense because defense a lot of times is
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there's a lot of technique, but the timing, the consistency,
the working to develop that chemistry with your quarterback. It
just takes a little bit more time on that side
of the ball, whereas defense a lot of times as
being an athlete and reacting in the zone concept, right,
you're just breaking on a ball. If I had to
put a percentage on it, I would say sixty five.
(07:44):
Thirty five I think is probably where that number would
be at. Maybe, you know, maybe a little bit less
than sixty five, but not much. It makes sense to
build it on offense too. I mean that you got
to score points in this league. You got a quarterback
who's got a massive contract, another receiver on the other
side who had a great rookie year, and uh yeah,
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you got to build up that offensive side of the
defense come along well. And also he hasn't signed his
contract yet. You know, I think that that's obviously on
the horizon, there's a I don't think there's a whole
lot of difficulty to figuring that out because essentially you
have a slotted system for the rookies, you know. But
I just kind of wonder, I mean, with a with
a player that's gonna play two ways, does that does
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that throw anything kind of into the mix? You know
what I mean? Does that change the concept or the
position of an agent? There's no wiggle room from the
CBA standpoint. Yeah, what does it come down to, let's
say fifth year option? Right? Is it wide receiver?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Depends on what snaps he's playing, Right, If he's playing
more snaps at the corner, then he might get the
corner number the receiver.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, the agent's always going to argue that it's the
higher number of the two. Yeah, it doesn't matter what
the split is. Yeah, if he's doing his job anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, And the same thing when it comes to a
second contract, if we get that far, you hope the
wide receiver contract.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Or is he going to get a cournerback different or
is he going to get a contract that essentially represents
that he's playing two positions and his contribution is from
two positions. I mean, if that's the case. I mean,
you're talking quarterback money or more right. I mean, if
if you've got a guy who is uh and obviously
(09:27):
we're getting way, you have to break, you can we
play a game play. But I mean it's just fun
to talk about the possibilities. I mean because it at
some point you could be looking at a player that
agent would have a viable position to say that, looker,
you've got a player that can play. He's playing two positions.
He's playing him at a high level. So you can't
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look at him as a single person getting paid. You
have to pay him as two. But that's down the road.
He wants you to be his agent, That's what it
sounds like to me. If you're talking that way, well,
I think you probably want to be his agent too.
With that, can you can you imagine yeah, three percent
of sixty million a year? I mean, I mean that's
(10:10):
the quarterback rate now, right, sixty million, right. I think
the agent's fees are anywhere. I think the cap. We
put a cap on the agents fees a few years back.
I can't remember what the number was, but I mean
years ago, when I was a vice president of the union,
we we instituted a cap because we had we actually
had some guys that were getting charged ridiculous amounts like ten. Yeah,
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like there was no there was no you know, guidelines
for the agents, you know, going back and we finally
put a cap. I was, you know, I was one
of the ones that was fighting for because I was like, look,
we can't have guys that don't know any better. All
of a sudden they signed a contract agreement with an
agent and he's getting charged seven or eight percent, you know,
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because a lot of agents, you know, after the fact
that we put that in there, we're trying to say, wow,
you know, I'm getting five I think it was five percent.
Five percent is what I'm getting as an agent, But
then I'm getting another three percent from a marketing stand. Pop.
I see, Okay, they combined the Yeah, after we put
the rules in place, but we shut that down. Yeah,
it makes sense. We're on x now, Jaguars dot Com,
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Jaguars YouTube, Jaguars Happy Hours ap Shadwick with Jeff Flogoman
and then the other side of the offense. Brian Thomas
Junior still looks good man, Yeah, but is he not?
Has he not become an afterthought? I mean a little right,
but not for long. I don't think when he gets
real he won't be well. And he's and he's not obviously,
I don't think in anybody's mind, but just the conversation
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with most teams of a rookie receiver having the year
that he just had, he would be almost the focal point.
And with the new staff, new front office, new uh players,
a little bit forgotten, kind of in the mix, but
not forgotten in my mind, because I think he's an
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outstanding player and I can't wait to see what year
two brings. And I'm really excited that year one happened
the way it did because I think if you didn't
have all that happened last year, with the injuries to
the other wide receivers, to Gabe and and oh Christian Kirk,
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thank you, if you didn't have those injuries to those guys,
could you really truly have discovered how versatile that Brian
Thomas Junior can be and what all that he can do.
Because I think the the original thinking was is that
he was kind of be he was going to be
kind of wide receiver three, and by the end of
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the year he was like wide receiver number one. Star
Star Stars easy and number two. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The other one that has d shown so far that
he is in a good place is the Ammy Brown
free agent addition, Liam him the other day about his
speed fast.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Did you have you looked at his college numbers? Pull
his college numbers up? It's a long time ago. Now,
well it's a long time ago. But I mean, if
you want kind of an indication of where the belief
is in Damie Brown, then you know a lot of times,
what personnel people do in the league is they have
a they have a college scouting report and then they
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kind of have an updated professional scouting report. And when
certain players get the free agency for the first time,
they go back to their college scouting evaluation to kind
of get an idea of what the opinion was on
him coming out. And then they also look at it
from what's happened in the recent past, because look JP
a lot of times for example in Washington prior to
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this year, who was playing quarterback for the Commanders, what
any consistency right rotation? Well then you have a rookie.
So a lot of times when you have a situation
like that where the ball getting delivered on time and
accurately is not happening. You again, go back to that
college resume to take a look, and what do the
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numbers say at its pro to a U and C
four point four four forty smoking fat vertical jump of
thirty five and a half. Okay, so to jump tonight,
give me some college numbers receiving yards, yards per catch,
the yards per catch you're gonna look at and go wow, Okay,
that gives me an idea of what this guy can be.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh dear, twenty eighteen was young, didn't play much, hundred
and seventy three yards touchdown. Next year twenty nineteen, fifty
one catches one thousand and thirty four yards, twelve touchdowns,
a twenty point three twenty point three The next season,
twenty twenty, the shortened COVID year of the ACC one
thousand ninety nine yards not in the ACC they played
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full but one thousand ninety nine yar yards and eight
touchdowns with a twenty yard average.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So back to back twenty yard average, that's what I'm
talking about, Okay, I think I think that that's you know,
and it is. Compare that to his pro numbers. What
did the average a catch as a pro with the department.
You're trying to make a play. I think again, you're
going back to what can this guy do for this
football team. What's he capable of? Because you don't want
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to just look at the numbers of what he did
in Washington, but you want to go back and see
what kind of numbers that he was doing in college
versus what he was doing in Washington to what he
could do maybe here. I mean he was underutilized in Washington.
I mean he only play yards per catch. I mean
thirteen point three for his career. Yeah, that's my four years.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
And I mean he had one season where he had
twelve catches, another with five, another with twelve, and then
thirty last year and only three hundred yards like so.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Which which my point is in this and then I
think Diamie Brown can be a dynamic addition to this
wider group from the standpoint of here, here's a guy
that can go vertical. Brian Thomas Junior we know can
go vertical. Travis Hunter, we know he's got great speed,
great hands, the ability to make contested catches. You know.
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So you're gonna have three legitimate guys that can run
deep most of the time when you're facing, or if
you looked at this team in the past, let's say
the Doug Peterson era, who is the deep ball guy?
Did you really have one? You really never have one? Right,
So you went from now all of a sudden to
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having maybe one last year with Brian. Now you got
three two quarterback. I'm sitting there going, oh yeah, oh yeah,
of that tough guy. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Let's come back in a moment, and we will see
how you evaluate practice lives, what you've been seeing the
last week, that organized team activities.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm even tracking stats and doing that whole view right
under our evaluation. That's what you do, man.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I can do it.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I can do it. We're back in a moment. It's
Jaguars Happy Hour. You're welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hours.
AP Shadwick, Jeff Lager when he was starting to discuss
the pass rushers of the Jeig Wars, Josh Heines, Allen
Trayvon Walker, Emmanuel Ogba in the group now as well,
who who's that last guy you mentioned that in Miami
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with him forty something sacks in his career. I gotta say,
just going back to last year, well, I mean, what
what a gross mismanagement of the defensive line room. There
was last year. Yeah, in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
At what point, and I get it, We're it's the
off season, we're talking through it. Still, at what point
do we put that in the review trading camp?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh yeah, when they Yeah, I mean it's when they
move forward. Well, I mean I kind of have it
in the review, but I mean I bring it up
just still. Well, I mean it's all part of relevant.
I mean, if you at Jaguars dot com, Eric Armsteen's
listed as a defensive tackle. Yeah. If you look at
a lot of other guys that are defensive linemen, what
is their designation? Yeah, yeah, there are some that say
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d L defensive line right now. There are some that
are specifically defensive end, and there are some that are
specifically defensive tackle, but there are many that are defensive line.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Joshing Trayvon Walker, Miles Cole are the defensive ends. Three
of them defensive tackles, Devon Hamilton, Eric Armstead, Tyler Lacy
Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson defensive lineman DL listings Eli Moster,
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Emmanuel Ogba listed as a d line Danny Strigo, bj
Green the second rookie out of Colorado, Ethan Downs say
rookie out of Oklahoma, and Kivy Rowe was a rookie
out of Arkansas, and James Carpenter a rookie out of Indiana.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Those are the d linemen kind of interesting, right, I
mean last year there was that whole kind of debate,
where's Eric Armstead at? Where should he be at? Why
is he not playing inside? More? They're not getting any
pressure inside?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And there were two different stories, right, It was like, oh,
he wanted to part of the deal is that he's
gonna play outside.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's what we heard earlier the season. At the end
of the season, I'm in the locker room. He said no,
And I asked him.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I asked him a question like are you better inside
or outside? He said, ah, I wanted to play inside.
I'm gonna go back inside. Okay, I mean so, he said,
she said.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And was playing twenty five twenty twenty five snaps a game. Yeah,
And as a free agent, I mean, it was just
it was very so when I to go back to
my original statement, the mismanagement of that room. You had
a lot of defensive tackles and then essentially the third
best defensive end. You traded away to Seattle's right, Yeah,
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before this regular season even began, and you kept a
lot of these defensive tackles and a lot of them
were basically of the same mold, and it didn't work
out very well. And the management, I think on game
day wasn't even better from a coaching standpoint. So, yeah,
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very interesting in the year. Last year, that's one of
the most interesting years from a defensive standpoint that I
have ever seen in Jaguars history. Don't want to see
it again. It was interesting, but it was awful, awfully interesting, awful, brutal.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It was.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
On pace to be like the worst defense in Jaguars history,
and you could make the argument that it was, but
the talent was nowhere near that. I mean, I've seen
bad defenses with bad personnel. That defense last year wasn't
that I had a personnel to be that bad.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Now let's get to maybe some of the reason behind that.
And we talked about weighing air quotes the option on defense.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Moving ahead, well, it looks like Devin Lloyd's trimmed up some.
It looks like Josh Haines Allen who's trimmed a little
bit away Trayvon Walker said he's only lost three pounds,
but his body feels the composition might feel a little different.
He hasn't done a test yet. They were playing pretty
heavy last year. Well, I think they were trying to
be the number one get off the bus club in
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the National Football League. You know that when they all
look big and then all of a sudden, wait a minute, well,
how effective it? Does bigger mean more effective? No, not necessarily.
I remember, just from a personal standpoint, I was never
better when I was heavier or at my heaviest. When
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were you at your heaviest. You think I'm about two
seventy two here Jacksonville here, you know, But I think
I played my best when I was around sixty five.
Sixty seven was a little too much, And a lot
of people say, wow, it's only five pounds. Well, five
pounds can make a big difference. And Devin Lloyd last
year was like two fifty. He doesn't look anywhere close
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to two fifty right now. No, he does not. Actually
he looks two thirty three fourth somewhere in that range,
which would be good for him. I mean he's got
to move, you know, you got to move to play linebacker.
This defense is going to be a defense that plays fast,
and I mean, obviously a huge year for him. No
fifth year option, finally year of his rookie deal. Look,
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when you don't get the fifth year option, that's telling
you something, right. But I'm excited about Campanelli because you
know what if you if you go back and you
look at every team that the Jaguars played last year,
I remember raving about Green Bays defense in particular, not
so much Jordan Love, but their defense because they just
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didn't make any mistakes. They were always in sync, they
were communicating at the pre snap to the play once
it got snapped, and they always seemed to be in
position to make plays, which was the entire exact opposite
for the Jaguars defense. More mental airs than anybody in
the National Football League last year, more explosives allowed in
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the National Football League than anybody last year, and largely
due to the fact that they were having mental errors.
So excited about Anthony Campanilly's presence with this defense. To
get it all back to be in a disciplined state,
I think would be a good way to put it.
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but the Jets. Aaron Glenn led Jets. I think it's
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going to be fun. Jeff Logerman Bowl, No, No, that
would They'd be Hugh Douglas Bowl, the Kyle Brady Bowl.
Who else can I Paul Frase a name from the past.
Who else has been with the Jets in the in
the Jaguars oh oh? The linebacker from Winona High School
(24:52):
in Birmingham has a brother on the defensive line. Williams,
Quincy Williams, Yes, Quincy see Williams. Good football player there
for the Jets. What happened there? You've probably not enough
patience for him to and uh, you know, there's a
very defined role for Quincy that allows him to be
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at his best and the Jets, I think have done
a really good job of putting him in that position.
And then it just the maturity too. Got to give
him a little credit for that. Let's come back in
a moment. We will see how you watch practice? Curious
about this? What do you watch this time? Everything? All
the time? Everything? Okay, don't don't kill the tea. We're
(25:39):
back in the I'll give you one little teaser. I'm
gonna I'm gonna give you one opportunity when we come back.
I want you to guess what's the first thing that
I look at and when I walk out to practice
this year.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Back in a moment plenty ahead, it is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I'm not gonna use it as excuse, but I mean
it definitely played a little I felt like I played
a little bit of toll on me close to the
end of the season as we kind of got on
but it had its pros and its constant.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Trewan Walker after practice a couple of days ago, discussing
that extra weight from a season ago. Welcome back to
Shaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatterick with Jeff Lockerman, who left us.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
With a question before the timeout, I did, what was
that question? Is JP? This year the new year under
Liam Combe, James Gladstone, Tony BISSELLI When I walk out
to practice, what's the first thing that I look for?
I'm going to take a A I could guess a
number of different ways here. Clearly there's ninety one guys
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out there right now, coaches and things. I would guess
a couple of things. Okay, no, you get one. Get one.
Just give me one and I'll say, yeah, your name,
and then we'll go to the next I'll go to
the next one. I think you look for who the
first player out there is? Okay? Is that right? No?
I think you look for where the gatorade cooler is.
(27:16):
That's a close second and third? Wow? Yeah? Second or third? Yeah,
but but not number one. I think you let me
know when you're ready for a hint. Yeah, I'm ready, Okay.
I think colors teal and white teal and white? What
is hunter? There? You go, well about black and white? Huh,
(27:40):
they're not wearing teal? Are they? Are? They? They will?
They wear teal or white white? On defense? There you go, Okay,
they do wear teal? Yeah, I guess they did. So
it's the first thing. I mean, it's it's kind of crazy,
but I mean's gonna be my first guess. But it's
too easy.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It is too easy.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Come on, man, everybody's looking at that. I mean, but
it's a it's amazing, right, I mean, when's the last
time you ever went out to a practice and you
were looking to see what position a guy was going
to line up at. I mean, it's and I remember
I walked out there today and I caught myself because,
I mean, the first thing I look for is he
wearing white? Is he wearing teal? I said to myself,
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I've never done that. I've never done that, And all
of my time in the National Football League, I've never
walked out to a practice to see was a guy
wearing an offensive color jersey or a defensive color jersey.
It is pretty cool question for you.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
When it comes to practice time in the regular season,
he'll just wear one jersey and switch sides of the
field during the week of practice.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Right, No, he's got a change from you. Yeah, you
have to. You have to. You can't have a guy
who's wearing a teal color jersey and the offense is
in teal and he's playing defense. I mean sure, but
is he just created a little confusion? Would throw them
the ball death pads on? He's got to change, Yeah, yeah,
I mean what they would. My guess is they'll probably
(29:06):
have one of those pullover things, ah, like a tear
a little like velcrow that's like a sleeveless pullover jersey
that they can take on and off like they do
with special teams when they put on like a red
jersey or red caps on the helmet. You know, they
could probably do something like that. See that busy time
at Daily's place. By the way, Locks.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
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Speaker 2 (29:36):
That's next week, Old Dominion June sixth. That'll be a
packed house. Plenty more ahead throughout the spring and summer,
dailiesplace dot com for tickets and show information. You got
one tonight across the road, right, Yeah, Tyler Chotters is
at the Vice Arena. Yeah, sweet tonight and check that out.
Give us your best rendition of his HITSI I can no, no,
(29:56):
come on, curios of it. You do not want me
even attempting to sing. Now, my daughter, she would be
a good person, asked to do something like that, but me,
uh no.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
So you mentioned the first thing you see when do
you go out? The first thing I look for it
look for is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What's he wearing? After that?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Give us a like a synopsis of a regular OTA practice.
When you're out there, which side.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Are you on? Are you moving around? Like? What's what
stands out to you the most when you're out there? Well?
I move around. My eyes move around a lot. My
body doesn't move around a ton. I wonder why. But
you know, here's the thing about this time of year.
You can't really get any kind of gauge on the
big guys. That's right, So there's not a lot of
(30:48):
evaluation other than okay, maybe a new guy. You just
want to see his body, see how he moves, because
you know, as a play by play guy, which you
have been color analyst, you want to see how body
types move so that you can identify that person on
the field without actually having to see the jersey number correct,
(31:09):
What do they look like, how do they move? So
you look at that's from that standpoint, But the seven
on seven guys is what you're watching this time of year.
Whi's the seven on seven for people that don't know,
and a practice you have different periods. Seven on seven
is essentially the seven skill position on offense versus the
(31:33):
seven guys that can be dropping in a coverage on defense. Linebackers,
defensive backs versus tight ends, wide receivers, running back, quarterback.
So you're watching those guys. You're looking for timing, you're
looking for the effort, the finish, the hustle. You look
at all of it. And you also in practice you're
(31:53):
looking at in the individual period, who's getting to the
front of the line, who leads by example, who's walking
off the field, how to coaches communicate to the players,
what players are having eye contact, which players are talking
ball on the sideline. I mean, So there's a lot
(32:14):
of things that you look at, but it's for the
most part. It's that seven on seven group, which a
lot of people would make the argument that the big guys,
the old nine on seven period is what you want
to watch to determine how good of a football team
it can be. Watch. Yeah, you can't watch that until
they get pads on. Not doing that right now, that's
(32:35):
a limited opportunity. Even when they get pads on. There
you go, that's what you watch for. But you go
back and watch film too, or no this time of year. No, Now,
I'll watch film on some of the guys that they
sign in free agency, now, you know, just to kind
of get a gauge. And I've watched some of the
undrafted rookies, you know, watch some of their fan like
Danny Stregaw. I watched him to see what kind of
(32:57):
a player he is, just to give you a little
bit of a baseline. And then also when you go
talk to a guy, when you talk to guys, if
you actually have watched him and you understand the components
of his game a little bit, it makes for a
little bit better conversation because they know that you're you're
paying attention, that's right, And you don't want to start
(33:19):
talking to a guy and you don't have a clue
of where he's from, what he's done, what he's like.
And even guys like in free agency, I mean you
read their bios, you read where they come from. Perfect example,
Diamie Brown. I pulled those numbers up right because I
was reading about him. I wanted to know where he
came from, where he's been. So I mean stuff like that,
(33:41):
I think it gives you a little better understanding of
how to paint the picture of the guys that you're watching.
Here's a question for you. Could you cut the team
right now? You wanted to? Absolutely too early? Nope, couldn't
do it. There's a lot of guys JP this time
of year look fantastic. Oh yes, and the first time
that they put ads on. I'm gonna give you a story. Yeah,
(34:04):
we give you a story. Okay. So when I was
with the Jets, we had I'm gonna I'm gonna keep
the names out of it. Well, come on, that's the
whole point. Well, I mean they're all out of the league, right,
all right? All right? Seven years old? Talking about seven years?
What do you mean seven? I was eight years old
we were the Jets, So I can't remember what year
this was, But we drafted a guy from southern cal
(34:25):
Baseli's school. Okay, but you make everybody's tough, eh. Okay,
So we drafted a guy linebacker, and all through mini
camp and then we had some semblance of OTAs, but
it wasn't anything structured like it is nowadays. He look good,
you know, moved well, looked the part, you know, body tight,
(34:49):
said linebacker. And the second round pick story told you
also probably a really good linebacker, right, second round pick. Sure,
first day of pads rolls around training camp. Okay, if
he looked good at training camp, no pads, first day
of pads roll around, He comes out of the locker
room with hand pads, form pads, elbow pads. And I
(35:16):
was like, this guy like the Jack Lambert of the seventies, right,
and he had all these pads on because he didn't
like contact and I and I kind of like he was.
He worried about getting hurt. And anyway, it was very impressive.
(35:39):
The first day in pads. It was a guy that
was not exactly one that enjoyed the contact to say that.
So did they start going after him in practice because
of that?
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah? Can you imagine a rookie walking out of the
locker suit because where you're where? No pads? Yeah, for
the start of training camp, right, And he's got nothing
on his arms or anything like that, And all of
sudden we put shoulder pads on. He comes out there
like like the kids getting ready to be a hockey goal.
And he stuffed his whole jersey with paper towels and
(36:15):
rags so he doesn't get hurt from the puck or something. Wow,
we ragged him so bad, Like, dude, what's what teammates
are for?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
What is what is all of the pads? Can you move?
Can I get you a neck? Role? He's like the
kid in the Christmas store the jacket? Do you got
a mouthpiece? How about some shin pads? Can I get
you some shin pads? Hey? You don't have any hip
pads and want me to go get you some hip pads?
(36:43):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Let's come back in just a moment. Our final thoughts.
I didn't give his name. I think I have it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
If you want me to start to naming name, you
could probably figure that one out. I've got it right here,
name it nah? No, nah, keep him naming. Okay, back
in the moment, ten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Daguars YouTube.
It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Let's go back to the start one.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
You know, it's a big upside because basically went through
the Hey.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
One of the trademarks of our leadership group is that
when there's an opportunity to be bold, we won't flinch.
You know, I don't know that there was much expectation
as much as it was just curiosity.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
People will learn pretty quick once we start making legit
decisions that we know.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The James gang to leave and I were sitting in
the draft room, maybe he says, you think about maybe making.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
A phone called the Cleveland regardless of how things fall,
well enough in a position to be better tomorrow than
the ward today.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Pretty much immediately, at least in my mind, why not
to night it's still good for the same kind executing it.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It wasn't at our mercy.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
There was confidence that it wouldn't be able to get
done with the first.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
A lot of people said, well boy, you gave it
a lot. My response is, did we we got the
best player? Time will tell to me it was a
small price to pay. Let's make history. Let's go fear
of the unknown.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
That can be an inhibitors.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Giving the tombs up on our eyes fat and it's
never enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
The rest of the appreciate.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
In the moments that I didn't take action out of
fear I had looked back at and regretted.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Hey, Travis is James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
How you doing for the rest of my life when
there's the opportunity for me to face fear that challenge.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Because you're the one we've been hunting up.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I'm hopeful that that brings with it positive results.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
But only time will tell.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's easier for the Hunch. Episode two entitled time will
Tell They've used Tonight Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube seven
o'clock Tonight logs forty minutes worth of inside the Trade
for Travis Hunter. It is absolutely must watch TV in
(39:12):
my opinion, I'm a huge fan of the Hunt. I've
been tooting that horn for the last couple of years now.
The job that the Jaguars production staff does with this
program is amazing. The access has never been as great
as it is now, which makes the storytelling even more compelling.
(39:34):
I will watch it tomorrow trust me, I won't watch
it tonight. You're kind of busy today, a little busy tonight.
But in fact, on the way in here today, I
took an uber in today. Not because I was drinking
heavily today, but because we're meeting the family down here
today and we're all being one vehicle. Hey, no judgment.
(39:54):
I wasn't day drinking. And I was talking to the
guy John that was my driver, had a really nice
car by the way and trying to get free rides,
you know, and I was telling him about this program,
The Hunt, and I told him, I said, look, I said,
this is an incredible show. You need to watch it.
(40:14):
And he asked me immediately. Is it available on YouTube?
And I said that's where it's at, so check it out.
So he said he's all fired up to watch it.
He didn't even know that something like that existed. So
I'm here to tell you, folks, if you love the
Jaguars and you love football, you love compelling stories, watch
The Hunt.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
I'm going to guess that the actual selection of Travis
Hunter was less than forty minutes into the draft real time.
This is forty minutes worth of content around that moment,
which is pretty cool with info and behind the scenes and.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
How many episodes total is it going to be? I
don't know. There's so much stuff that. I mean, this
whole crew over here has got stuff on the.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Floor and in the deepen the archives, and they're gonna
dig it out as we go along here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And it's always ended kind of once the season began, right,
Could it end up continuing into the season, that would
be cool? Huh hm? Interesting? I mean, are you gonna
was somebody or I'm just saying you're asking now, I
would watch it, right, Yeah, well why not? Well, I mean,
(41:29):
as long as you're not you gotta you gotta be smart,
and our our production department is smart. There are some
that aren't. I was gonna say, hey, I'll leave this
to you. I'm out of this one. I'm just kidding.
Have a little fun there, have a little fun there,
but I'm excited about the hunt. Folks, go to YouTube,
(41:52):
type in Jacksonville Jaguar at the Hunt, the name of
the team, subscribe, check it out. Check it out, man,
and don't watch too. If you haven't seen one, yeah,
go back and watch one before you watch two. Good idea.
They're kind of in order to ignore the ones in
the past that have had previous regimes all that kind
(42:14):
of stuff. Yeah, I mean it's it's time to move.
We're looking ahead. Earlier earlier at the review, still talking
about a defense. Well, you got to kind of know
where you've been to understand where you're headed and why
why we have uh all jumped on the direction that
(42:40):
this team is traveling at. Why we're all kind of
on board? That's deep thoughts. What's in that coffee anyway tonight?
My goodness, deep No whiskey. They didn't have that option
over there at coffee station here at the mech I
would say so no, so probably not, although you know
I probably wouldn't mind. One of those Irish cream things
(43:01):
in here. Wouldn't be a bad idea. It may not
be a great idea before a radio show, Oh it
might make it really interesting. I had a guy the
last one. I had a guy. Not to name any
names again, why don't you ever named names? Man? Come on,
say it with your I had a guy that I
worked with in the past doing one of these very
(43:22):
shows that would come in with a coffee cup kind
of like this, and it didn't necessarily have coffee in it. Hey,
and by the time the show got towards the end
of the first hour, sometime second hour, things got a
little interesting. Uh huh, Yeah, Okay, we'll stay away from that.
(43:43):
I think I'm not I'm not a proponent or one
that likes the magic coffee. I'm okay with regular coffee.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm not going to ask you about the magic coffee.
That's a difference. Hey, next week, oht what there's noth.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
One tomorrow I suppose, and then there's what four on
the schedule next week, the final week of OTAs, and
then the week after that three day mandatory mini camp
and then it's all over. Yeah. The mini camp is
really what I'm looking forward to. I expect that to
be kind of pretty competitive. I mean, the OTAs that
they're doing right now is it doesn't have that. Not
(44:23):
all of them, Like today was kind of chill, but
some of them are competitive. Some of them they scale
it back a little bit. And the mini camp I
would expect to be highly competitive. And I'm looking forward
to that, which I believe the tenth, eleven, twelfth of June,
looking forward to that very much. There'll be some surprise
announcements coming up regarding one of those days. Okay, but
(44:47):
we'll tease that stay tuned, stay tuned. I like that idea.
Stay tuned. You don't even know what I'm talking about. Well,
I mean, maybe Travis Hunter has a jersey that's half
white and half teal, because that's the first thing I'm
looking for. Maybe, maybe so.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
But the other Trevor Lawrence Ters is like that Clemson Jaguars.
I think I've seen people with those. I've never seen
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Down in the middle. I'm excited to see what he's
going to do this year. I'm that serious about this. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, come on, man, because you know, here's the reality.
If you look back and see what Liam Khne did
with Baker Mayfield, you look at and I believe the
(45:33):
Jaguars have a very smart offensive coordinator who's very young,
who is going to be a hot coaching candidate at
some point, in Grant Yudinsky. You combine Liam Khne Yudinsky
with Trevor, who is as hard working and as mature
as any quarterback that you could have. I think that
(45:56):
that's going to be a really strong recipe for success
this year. And I'm not saying they're going to win
at all or anything of that nature. I just think
it's going to be really good for this football team,
and I think it's going to be really good for
Trevor this year. And if you look at what's happening
in front of him, and then also what's happening on
(46:16):
the periphery of him, which is the talent, and then
also behind him, all of those areas have been I
think upgraded and made to have more competition than arguably
ever before in his tenure here. A lot of it too.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Liam Cohen talked about this and Trevor has talked about
it this offseason, is that the work on footwork that
kind of goes with the progressions in this offense, and
it'll just continue to be a work in progress for him.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I think, well, that's what this time of year is for.
If you go back and you look at the very
first ota that they had, it wasn't a great day
for Trevor, you know. So part of I think acclimating
to the new system is getting an understanding of what's
expected and how to do it from a footwork standpoint,
(47:05):
Because the reality is, how many times have you heard
me JP saying watching film on a quarterback and saying
he's got no chance because his feet ain't right. I
mean with quarterbacks, if you watch their feet, you can
literally a lot of times watch film, ignore where the
ball is, watch the feet of the quarterback. Okay, like
put a piece of paper over the screen so all
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you can see is to watch the feet of the quarterback.
And then with I would say seventy five percent accuracy,
you can say whether or not that was a successful
player or not based on just watching the feet of
the quarterback. And that's true. And this is the time
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of year where you've got to break the old habits,
establish the new and essentially evolve into the offense with
your whole body. And that with a quarterback. Obviously, defeat
are critical. Run game will help too well. And two
new running backs in that back. So it's gonna be
(48:11):
fascinating to see how camp goes there. I can't wait
to see it. Look, competition's great, man. Look in the past,
that was I think a position group that had very
little competition. You added Tank Bigsby. But before that you're like,
did they add anybody out of consequence? No? Like last year,
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if you looked at the running back room, did you
have any idea or any kind of curiosity about who's
going to make the team at the running back spot
or how the roles would be defined. Nope. How does
that look this year? I mean, yeah, there's all a
whole new group. You got Twoton, Alan and Jackson, Quinn, Allen, Tank, Bigsby.
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Who's going to get Robinson? Yeah? Who's gonna get what?
I think that's the beauty of what's kind of changed
with this team last year? Offensive line? Did you ever
have an idea or did you ever think for a
minute last year going to the training camp? You know what,
I don't know who's going to start at left guard?
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I'm not sure, or did you know every position where
it was going to be. It's tough you had an idea, right,
that's right? This year, I think there's competition, legitimate competition
at I would say three positions.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
We talked about renaming the positions on the defensive line.
All the offensive line are listed as OL now on
the roster. Hey, wide open, Wide Open Blogs. Will see
you in two weeks looking forward to this program.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
J P.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Good afternoon, Jeff afternoon, JP. What's man?
All good man? All good? Excited, uh, exciting time of year.
Mini camp just around the corner. Ota is in full swing.
Two more weeks before we hit the dead zone here
coming out of the dead zone. Nothing wrong with it.
I think an interesting thing that you bring up there
about grading the off season, Yeah, right, because this is
(01:33):
the time of year in which everybody's getting a's.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Oh, everybody looks great, great shape, They're having the best
offseason they've ever had on it in the chemistry.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, getting stronger, bigger, faster, Yeah, the commitment prin mode
never ends. Yeah, it's uh, you know the old the
old saying is is that, uh, sometimes you just got
to wait and see until somebody gets hit in the
mouth to really see what they are and what they're
(02:06):
gonna be. True, right, very true. So I'm excited for
this football team. I'm excited with some of the changes
that they've made. But I think there's also a part
of me that says, I'm not giving a grade out
until this football team can give a grade itself, right,
I mean, because the ultimate grade is what wins and losses.
(02:28):
It's past fail in the NFL, that's all it is. Well,
you could great training camp if you make the team
or not. Oh, absolutely, And I think that that also
I'm really impressed with some of the things that they're
doing now. And and I don't know if this is
going to help them win football games or not. Okay, okay,
what do you got. But they're having this contest and
(02:52):
I don't even know if I'm allowed to even talk
about this. Oh well, here we go. We're going to
talk about to find out. They're having this kind of
cool contest where they have teams on the team and
they're competing in different events. It's kind of like a
team building thing, right, And so they say weight room
stuff is this, well, well some of its weight room stuff,
(03:14):
some of it is is different. They come up with
different competitions to have, so in other words, you have
like these teams that are made up of different players.
You know, I think they had like a draft or
we were able to select players. So you have you know,
eight or nine or ten man teams, whatever it is,
and each team competes in these different events that they
(03:35):
have kind of on a weekly basis. And when I
saw it, I was like, that really reminds me of
the team building exercise that Pete Carroll came up with
way back in the day when I was with the Jets,
and it was fun stuff. And the stuff that we
did was in training camp, but because of OTAs now
(03:57):
becomes so prevalent. Now it's a great opportunity to do
it throughout thet s. And then at the end of
the road there's going to be a prize. And I'm
not going to say what the prize is going to be.
I'll let them talk about that at some point. But
it's cool watching these players pull together with their own
team to have camaraderie with the competition and then to
(04:17):
push each other kind of along the way, because competition
is the greatest motivator that there is in the off season,
and you can tell that this team is creating a
lot of bonds that wouldn't normally be there if you
didn't have these kind of things. Today was a medball competition, wow,
where they were doing like a relay race, throwing the
(04:40):
medball to eat to their teammates. I'm pretty good at
that down and back and then you know, the winner
obviously wins. And then there was a med ball throwing
contest over the goalpost inside the Miller Electric Center, and
of course the big guys were doing pretty well with that.
And then there was a kind of a med ball
throwing contest where you throw it and then once it
(05:01):
stops rolling, you pick it up and throw it again.
The first one down and back of the field wins.
It's just cool stuff, and I'm excited to see that
they're having these kind of things because it brings everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Closer and it breaks up the monotony of the offseason programs.
Not just meetings for a number of hours and then
on the field for an hour and a half and
go home. It's like you need something to kind of
keep well, keep motivating, and I think they're pro players.
You should be motivated anyway. It's a voluntary period. Let's
get some team chemistry going.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You spend a lot of time building chemistry within the rooms. Yeah,
you know, defensive line, right, Okay, we're all hanging out together,
you know, and doing our thing and working out together,
lifting together, practicing together, meeting together. But hey, look, I
don't spend a whole lot of time with a running
back or a wide receiver. And these teams that they
have are diverse, you know, across the position groups, and
(05:51):
it's a great opportunity to to I think, create a
bond with other guys on the team that maybe you
wouldn't ordinarily have and from what I understand, it was
an idea by the strength coach, the new strength coach
that they have, and kudos to him because you can
really tell that the players are embracing it. Got an
opportunity to watch it today again. You know who has
(06:13):
a step ahead in working with different position groups. Travis
Hutter wide receiver and defensive back and Liam Cohen after
practice earlier this week explaining that yes, it's going and
it's going pretty well.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
He is still learning. He's been learning a ton defensively
and offensively as we know, you know, but that was
more so fundamentals techniques. It wasn't a ton of eleven
on eleven seven on. It was more fundamentals techniques communication.
That was what that kind of last Wednesday was. And
he's been learning with those guys and meet with him
(06:49):
extra as he's needed to.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Said coach Liam Cohen talking about the defensive work one
day last week on the field, but he's been in
both meeting rooms throughout each day and getting a full
dose of Jaguar football on both sides.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, And if I had to put like a percentage
on what amount of work that he would have to
have with the offense versus what he would have to
have as a defensive player to get ready to be
a true two way player. It definitely has to lean
more towards offense because defense a lot of times is
(07:23):
there's a lot of technique, but the timing, the consistency,
the working to develop that chemistry with your quarterback. It
just takes a little bit more time on that side
of the ball, whereas defense a lot of times as
being an athlete and reacting in the zone concept, right,
you're just breaking on a ball. If I had to
put a percentage on it, I would say sixty five.
(07:44):
Thirty five I think is probably where that number would
be at. Maybe, you know, maybe a little bit less
than sixty five, but not much. It makes sense to
build it on offense too. I mean that you got
to score points in this league. You got a quarterback
who's got a massive contract, another receiver on the other
side who had a great rookie year, and uh yeah,
(08:04):
you got to build up that offensive side of the
defense come along well. And also he hasn't signed his
contract yet. You know, I think that that's obviously on
the horizon, there's a I don't think there's a whole
lot of difficulty to figuring that out because essentially you
have a slotted system for the rookies, you know. But
I just kind of wonder, I mean, with a with
a player that's gonna play two ways, does that does
(08:27):
that throw anything kind of into the mix? You know
what I mean? Does that change the concept or the
position of an agent? There's no wiggle room from the
CBA standpoint. Yeah, what does it come down to, let's
say fifth year option? Right? Is it wide receiver?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Depends on what snaps he's playing, Right, If he's playing
more snaps at the corner, then he might get the
corner number the receiver.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, the agent's always going to argue that it's the
higher number of the two. Yeah, it doesn't matter what
the split is. Yeah, if he's doing his job anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, And the same thing when it comes to a
second contract, if we get that far, you hope the
wide receiver contract.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Or is he going to get a cournerback different or
is he going to get a contract that essentially represents
that he's playing two positions and his contribution is from
two positions. I mean, if that's the case. I mean,
you're talking quarterback money or more right. I mean, if
if you've got a guy who is uh and obviously
(09:27):
we're getting way, you have to break, you can we
play a game play. But I mean it's just fun
to talk about the possibilities. I mean because it at
some point you could be looking at a player that
agent would have a viable position to say that, looker,
you've got a player that can play. He's playing two positions.
He's playing him at a high level. So you can't
(09:47):
look at him as a single person getting paid. You
have to pay him as two. But that's down the road.
He wants you to be his agent, That's what it
sounds like to me. If you're talking that way, well,
I think you probably want to be his agent too.
With that, can you can you imagine yeah, three percent
of sixty million a year? I mean, I mean that's
(10:10):
the quarterback rate now, right, sixty million, right. I think
the agent's fees are anywhere. I think the cap. We
put a cap on the agents fees a few years back.
I can't remember what the number was, but I mean
years ago, when I was a vice president of the union,
we we instituted a cap because we had we actually
had some guys that were getting charged ridiculous amounts like ten. Yeah,
(10:34):
like there was no there was no you know, guidelines
for the agents, you know, going back and we finally
put a cap. I was, you know, I was one
of the ones that was fighting for because I was like, look,
we can't have guys that don't know any better. All
of a sudden they signed a contract agreement with an
agent and he's getting charged seven or eight percent, you know,
(10:58):
because a lot of agents, you know, after the fact
that we put that in there, we're trying to say, wow,
you know, I'm getting five I think it was five percent.
Five percent is what I'm getting as an agent, But
then I'm getting another three percent from a marketing stand. Pop.
I see, Okay, they combined the Yeah, after we put
the rules in place, but we shut that down. Yeah,
it makes sense. We're on x now, Jaguars dot Com,
(11:19):
Jaguars YouTube, Jaguars Happy Hours ap Shadwick with Jeff Flogoman
and then the other side of the offense. Brian Thomas
Junior still looks good man, Yeah, but is he not?
Has he not become an afterthought? I mean a little right,
but not for long. I don't think when he gets
real he won't be well. And he's and he's not obviously,
I don't think in anybody's mind, but just the conversation
(11:42):
with most teams of a rookie receiver having the year
that he just had, he would be almost the focal point.
And with the new staff, new front office, new uh players,
a little bit forgotten, kind of in the mix, but
not forgotten in my mind, because I think he's an
(12:02):
outstanding player and I can't wait to see what year
two brings. And I'm really excited that year one happened
the way it did because I think if you didn't
have all that happened last year, with the injuries to
the other wide receivers, to Gabe and and oh Christian Kirk,
(12:24):
thank you, if you didn't have those injuries to those guys,
could you really truly have discovered how versatile that Brian
Thomas Junior can be and what all that he can do.
Because I think the the original thinking was is that
he was kind of be he was going to be
kind of wide receiver three, and by the end of
(12:46):
the year he was like wide receiver number one. Star
Star Stars easy and number two. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The other one that has d shown so far that
he is in a good place is the Ammy Brown
free agent addition, Liam him the other day about his
speed fast.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Did you have you looked at his college numbers? Pull
his college numbers up? It's a long time ago. Now,
well it's a long time ago. But I mean, if
you want kind of an indication of where the belief
is in Damie Brown, then you know a lot of times,
what personnel people do in the league is they have
a they have a college scouting report and then they
(13:31):
kind of have an updated professional scouting report. And when
certain players get the free agency for the first time,
they go back to their college scouting evaluation to kind
of get an idea of what the opinion was on
him coming out. And then they also look at it
from what's happened in the recent past, because look JP
a lot of times for example in Washington prior to
(13:54):
this year, who was playing quarterback for the Commanders, what
any consistency right rotation? Well then you have a rookie.
So a lot of times when you have a situation
like that where the ball getting delivered on time and
accurately is not happening. You again, go back to that
college resume to take a look, and what do the
(14:15):
numbers say at its pro to a U and C
four point four four forty smoking fat vertical jump of
thirty five and a half. Okay, so to jump tonight,
give me some college numbers receiving yards, yards per catch,
the yards per catch you're gonna look at and go wow, Okay,
that gives me an idea of what this guy can be.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh dear, twenty eighteen was young, didn't play much, hundred
and seventy three yards touchdown. Next year twenty nineteen, fifty
one catches one thousand and thirty four yards, twelve touchdowns,
a twenty point three twenty point three The next season,
twenty twenty, the shortened COVID year of the ACC one
thousand ninety nine yards not in the ACC they played
(14:58):
full but one thousand ninety nine yar yards and eight
touchdowns with a twenty yard average.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So back to back twenty yard average, that's what I'm
talking about, Okay, I think I think that that's you know,
and it is. Compare that to his pro numbers. What
did the average a catch as a pro with the department.
You're trying to make a play. I think again, you're
going back to what can this guy do for this
football team. What's he capable of? Because you don't want
(15:25):
to just look at the numbers of what he did
in Washington, but you want to go back and see
what kind of numbers that he was doing in college
versus what he was doing in Washington to what he
could do maybe here. I mean he was underutilized in Washington.
I mean he only play yards per catch. I mean
thirteen point three for his career. Yeah, that's my four years.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
And I mean he had one season where he had
twelve catches, another with five, another with twelve, and then
thirty last year and only three hundred yards like so.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Which which my point is in this and then I
think Diamie Brown can be a dynamic addition to this
wider group from the standpoint of here, here's a guy
that can go vertical. Brian Thomas Junior we know can
go vertical. Travis Hunter, we know he's got great speed,
great hands, the ability to make contested catches. You know.
(16:16):
So you're gonna have three legitimate guys that can run
deep most of the time when you're facing, or if
you looked at this team in the past, let's say
the Doug Peterson era, who is the deep ball guy?
Did you really have one? You really never have one? Right,
So you went from now all of a sudden to
(16:37):
having maybe one last year with Brian. Now you got
three two quarterback. I'm sitting there going, oh yeah, oh yeah,
of that tough guy. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Let's come back in a moment, and we will see
how you evaluate practice lives, what you've been seeing the
last week, that organized team activities.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm even tracking stats and doing that whole view right
under our evaluation. That's what you do, man.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I can do it.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I can do it. We're back in a moment. It's
Jaguars Happy Hour. You're welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hours.
AP Shadwick, Jeff Lager when he was starting to discuss
the pass rushers of the Jeig Wars, Josh Heines, Allen
Trayvon Walker, Emmanuel Ogba in the group now as well,
who who's that last guy you mentioned that in Miami
(17:30):
with him forty something sacks in his career. I gotta say,
just going back to last year, well, I mean, what
what a gross mismanagement of the defensive line room. There
was last year. Yeah, in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
At what point, and I get it, We're it's the
off season, we're talking through it. Still, at what point
do we put that in the review trading camp?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh yeah, when they Yeah, I mean it's when they
move forward. Well, I mean I kind of have it
in the review, but I mean I bring it up
just still. Well, I mean it's all part of relevant.
I mean, if you at Jaguars dot com, Eric Armsteen's
listed as a defensive tackle. Yeah. If you look at
a lot of other guys that are defensive linemen, what
is their designation? Yeah, yeah, there are some that say
(18:13):
d L defensive line right now. There are some that
are specifically defensive end, and there are some that are
specifically defensive tackle, but there are many that are defensive line.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Joshing Trayvon Walker, Miles Cole are the defensive ends. Three
of them defensive tackles, Devon Hamilton, Eric Armstead, Tyler Lacy
Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson defensive lineman DL listings Eli Moster,
(18:47):
Emmanuel Ogba listed as a d line Danny Strigo, bj
Green the second rookie out of Colorado, Ethan Downs say
rookie out of Oklahoma, and Kivy Rowe was a rookie
out of Arkansas, and James Carpenter a rookie out of Indiana.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Those are the d linemen kind of interesting, right, I
mean last year there was that whole kind of debate,
where's Eric Armstead at? Where should he be at? Why
is he not playing inside? More? They're not getting any
pressure inside?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And there were two different stories, right, It was like, oh,
he wanted to part of the deal is that he's
gonna play outside.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's what we heard earlier the season. At the end
of the season, I'm in the locker room. He said no,
And I asked him.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I asked him a question like are you better inside
or outside? He said, ah, I wanted to play inside.
I'm gonna go back inside. Okay, I mean so, he said,
she said.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And was playing twenty five twenty twenty five snaps a game. Yeah,
And as a free agent, I mean, it was just
it was very so when I to go back to
my original statement, the mismanagement of that room. You had
a lot of defensive tackles and then essentially the third
best defensive end. You traded away to Seattle's right, Yeah,
(20:03):
before this regular season even began, and you kept a
lot of these defensive tackles and a lot of them
were basically of the same mold, and it didn't work
out very well. And the management, I think on game
day wasn't even better from a coaching standpoint. So, yeah,
(20:24):
very interesting in the year. Last year, that's one of
the most interesting years from a defensive standpoint that I
have ever seen in Jaguars history. Don't want to see
it again. It was interesting, but it was awful, awfully interesting, awful, brutal.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It was.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
On pace to be like the worst defense in Jaguars history,
and you could make the argument that it was, but
the talent was nowhere near that. I mean, I've seen
bad defenses with bad personnel. That defense last year wasn't
that I had a personnel to be that bad.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Now let's get to maybe some of the reason behind that.
And we talked about weighing air quotes the option on defense.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Moving ahead, well, it looks like Devin Lloyd's trimmed up some.
It looks like Josh Haines Allen who's trimmed a little
bit away Trayvon Walker said he's only lost three pounds,
but his body feels the composition might feel a little different.
He hasn't done a test yet. They were playing pretty
heavy last year. Well, I think they were trying to
be the number one get off the bus club in
(21:31):
the National Football League. You know that when they all
look big and then all of a sudden, wait a minute, well,
how effective it? Does bigger mean more effective? No, not necessarily.
I remember, just from a personal standpoint, I was never
better when I was heavier or at my heaviest. When
(21:51):
were you at your heaviest. You think I'm about two
seventy two here Jacksonville here, you know, But I think
I played my best when I was around sixty five.
Sixty seven was a little too much, And a lot
of people say, wow, it's only five pounds. Well, five
pounds can make a big difference. And Devin Lloyd last
year was like two fifty. He doesn't look anywhere close
(22:15):
to two fifty right now. No, he does not. Actually
he looks two thirty three fourth somewhere in that range,
which would be good for him. I mean he's got
to move, you know, you got to move to play linebacker.
This defense is going to be a defense that plays fast,
and I mean, obviously a huge year for him. No
fifth year option, finally year of his rookie deal. Look,
(22:37):
when you don't get the fifth year option, that's telling
you something, right. But I'm excited about Campanelli because you
know what if you if you go back and you
look at every team that the Jaguars played last year,
I remember raving about Green Bays defense in particular, not
so much Jordan Love, but their defense because they just
(22:59):
didn't make any mistakes. They were always in sync, they
were communicating at the pre snap to the play once
it got snapped, and they always seemed to be in
position to make plays, which was the entire exact opposite
for the Jaguars defense. More mental airs than anybody in
the National Football League last year, more explosives allowed in
(23:23):
the National Football League than anybody last year, and largely
due to the fact that they were having mental errors.
So excited about Anthony Campanilly's presence with this defense. To
get it all back to be in a disciplined state,
I think would be a good way to put it.
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got packages for that. Now. They saw on the website
they were having some Ticketmaster issues today. They was overloaded.
They were like the one hundred thousand people in the queue.
The attack of the box. Of course the division opponents,
but the Jets. Aaron Glenn led Jets. I think it's
(24:31):
going to be fun. Jeff Logerman Bowl, No, No, that
would They'd be Hugh Douglas Bowl, the Kyle Brady Bowl.
Who else can I Paul Frase a name from the past.
Who else has been with the Jets in the in
the Jaguars oh oh? The linebacker from Winona High School
(24:52):
in Birmingham has a brother on the defensive line. Williams,
Quincy Williams, Yes, Quincy see Williams. Good football player there
for the Jets. What happened there? You've probably not enough
patience for him to and uh, you know, there's a
very defined role for Quincy that allows him to be
(25:14):
at his best and the Jets, I think have done
a really good job of putting him in that position.
And then it just the maturity too. Got to give
him a little credit for that. Let's come back in
a moment. We will see how you watch practice? Curious
about this? What do you watch this time? Everything? All
the time? Everything? Okay, don't don't kill the tea. We're
(25:39):
back in the I'll give you one little teaser. I'm
gonna I'm gonna give you one opportunity when we come back.
I want you to guess what's the first thing that
I look at and when I walk out to practice
this year.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Back in a moment plenty ahead, it is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I'm not gonna use it as excuse, but I mean
it definitely played a little I felt like I played
a little bit of toll on me close to the
end of the season as we kind of got on
but it had its pros and its constant.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Trewan Walker after practice a couple of days ago, discussing
that extra weight from a season ago. Welcome back to
Shaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatterick with Jeff Lockerman, who left us.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
With a question before the timeout, I did, what was
that question? Is JP? This year the new year under
Liam Combe, James Gladstone, Tony BISSELLI When I walk out
to practice, what's the first thing that I look for?
I'm going to take a A I could guess a
number of different ways here. Clearly there's ninety one guys
(26:54):
out there right now, coaches and things. I would guess
a couple of things. Okay, no, you get one. Get one.
Just give me one and I'll say, yeah, your name,
and then we'll go to the next I'll go to
the next one. I think you look for who the
first player out there is? Okay? Is that right? No?
I think you look for where the gatorade cooler is.
(27:16):
That's a close second and third? Wow? Yeah? Second or third? Yeah,
but but not number one. I think you let me
know when you're ready for a hint. Yeah, I'm ready, Okay.
I think colors teal and white teal and white? What
is hunter? There? You go, well about black and white? Huh,
(27:40):
they're not wearing teal? Are they? Are? They? They will?
They wear teal or white white? On defense? There you go, Okay,
they do wear teal? Yeah, I guess they did. So
it's the first thing. I mean, it's it's kind of crazy,
but I mean's gonna be my first guess. But it's
too easy.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It is too easy.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Come on, man, everybody's looking at that. I mean, but
it's a it's amazing, right, I mean, when's the last
time you ever went out to a practice and you
were looking to see what position a guy was going
to line up at. I mean, it's and I remember
I walked out there today and I caught myself because,
I mean, the first thing I look for is he
wearing white? Is he wearing teal? I said to myself,
(28:18):
I've never done that. I've never done that, And all
of my time in the National Football League, I've never
walked out to a practice to see was a guy
wearing an offensive color jersey or a defensive color jersey.
It is pretty cool question for you.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
When it comes to practice time in the regular season,
he'll just wear one jersey and switch sides of the
field during the week of practice.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Right, No, he's got a change from you. Yeah, you
have to. You have to. You can't have a guy
who's wearing a teal color jersey and the offense is
in teal and he's playing defense. I mean sure, but
is he just created a little confusion? Would throw them
the ball death pads on? He's got to change, Yeah, yeah,
I mean what they would. My guess is they'll probably
(29:06):
have one of those pullover things, ah, like a tear
a little like velcrow that's like a sleeveless pullover jersey
that they can take on and off like they do
with special teams when they put on like a red
jersey or red caps on the helmet. You know, they
could probably do something like that. See that busy time
at Daily's place. By the way, Locks.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
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days from now, sticks with Kevin Cronin Don Felder June second.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
That's next week, Old Dominion June sixth. That'll be a
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dailiesplace dot com for tickets and show information. You got
one tonight across the road, right, Yeah, Tyler Chotters is
at the Vice Arena. Yeah, sweet tonight and check that out.
Give us your best rendition of his HITSI I can no, no,
(29:56):
come on, curios of it. You do not want me
even attempting to sing. Now, my daughter, she would be
a good person, asked to do something like that, but me,
uh no.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
So you mentioned the first thing you see when do
you go out? The first thing I look for it
look for is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What's he wearing? After that?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Give us a like a synopsis of a regular OTA practice.
When you're out there, which side.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Are you on? Are you moving around? Like? What's what
stands out to you the most when you're out there? Well?
I move around. My eyes move around a lot. My
body doesn't move around a ton. I wonder why. But
you know, here's the thing about this time of year.
You can't really get any kind of gauge on the
big guys. That's right, So there's not a lot of
(30:48):
evaluation other than okay, maybe a new guy. You just
want to see his body, see how he moves, because
you know, as a play by play guy, which you
have been color analyst, you want to see how body
types move so that you can identify that person on
the field without actually having to see the jersey number correct,
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What do they look like, how do they move? So
you look at that's from that standpoint, But the seven
on seven guys is what you're watching this time of year.
Whi's the seven on seven for people that don't know,
and a practice you have different periods. Seven on seven
is essentially the seven skill position on offense versus the
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seven guys that can be dropping in a coverage on defense. Linebackers,
defensive backs versus tight ends, wide receivers, running back, quarterback.
So you're watching those guys. You're looking for timing, you're
looking for the effort, the finish, the hustle. You look
at all of it. And you also in practice you're
(31:53):
looking at in the individual period, who's getting to the
front of the line, who leads by example, who's walking
off the field, how to coaches communicate to the players,
what players are having eye contact, which players are talking
ball on the sideline. I mean, So there's a lot
(32:14):
of things that you look at, but it's for the
most part. It's that seven on seven group, which a
lot of people would make the argument that the big guys,
the old nine on seven period is what you want
to watch to determine how good of a football team
it can be. Watch. Yeah, you can't watch that until
they get pads on. Not doing that right now, that's
(32:35):
a limited opportunity. Even when they get pads on. There
you go, that's what you watch for. But you go
back and watch film too, or no this time of year. No, Now,
I'll watch film on some of the guys that they
sign in free agency, now, you know, just to kind
of get a gauge. And I've watched some of the
undrafted rookies, you know, watch some of their fan like
Danny Stregaw. I watched him to see what kind of
(32:57):
a player he is, just to give you a little
bit of a baseline. And then also when you go
talk to a guy, when you talk to guys, if
you actually have watched him and you understand the components
of his game a little bit, it makes for a
little bit better conversation because they know that you're you're
paying attention, that's right, And you don't want to start
(33:19):
talking to a guy and you don't have a clue
of where he's from, what he's done, what he's like.
And even guys like in free agency, I mean you
read their bios, you read where they come from. Perfect example,
Diamie Brown. I pulled those numbers up right because I
was reading about him. I wanted to know where he
came from, where he's been. So I mean stuff like that,
(33:41):
I think it gives you a little better understanding of
how to paint the picture of the guys that you're watching.
Here's a question for you. Could you cut the team
right now? You wanted to? Absolutely too early? Nope, couldn't
do it. There's a lot of guys JP this time
of year look fantastic. Oh yes, and the first time
that they put ads on. I'm gonna give you a story. Yeah,
(34:04):
we give you a story. Okay. So when I was
with the Jets, we had I'm gonna I'm gonna keep
the names out of it. Well, come on, that's the
whole point. Well, I mean they're all out of the league, right,
all right? All right? Seven years old? Talking about seven years?
What do you mean seven? I was eight years old
we were the Jets, So I can't remember what year
this was, But we drafted a guy from southern cal
(34:25):
Baseli's school. Okay, but you make everybody's tough, eh. Okay,
So we drafted a guy linebacker, and all through mini
camp and then we had some semblance of OTAs, but
it wasn't anything structured like it is nowadays. He look good,
you know, moved well, looked the part, you know, body tight,
(34:49):
said linebacker. And the second round pick story told you
also probably a really good linebacker, right, second round pick. Sure,
first day of pads rolls around training camp. Okay, if
he looked good at training camp, no pads, first day
of pads roll around, He comes out of the locker
room with hand pads, form pads, elbow pads. And I
(35:16):
was like, this guy like the Jack Lambert of the seventies, right,
and he had all these pads on because he didn't
like contact and I and I kind of like he was.
He worried about getting hurt. And anyway, it was very impressive.
(35:39):
The first day in pads. It was a guy that
was not exactly one that enjoyed the contact to say that.
So did they start going after him in practice because
of that?
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah? Can you imagine a rookie walking out of the
locker suit because where you're where? No pads? Yeah, for
the start of training camp, right, And he's got nothing
on his arms or anything like that, And all of
sudden we put shoulder pads on. He comes out there
like like the kids getting ready to be a hockey goal.
And he stuffed his whole jersey with paper towels and
(36:15):
rags so he doesn't get hurt from the puck or something. Wow,
we ragged him so bad, Like, dude, what's what teammates
are for?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
What is what is all of the pads? Can you move?
Can I get you a neck? Role? He's like the
kid in the Christmas store the jacket? Do you got
a mouthpiece? How about some shin pads? Can I get
you some shin pads? Hey? You don't have any hip
pads and want me to go get you some hip pads?
(36:43):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Let's come back in just a moment. Our final thoughts.
I didn't give his name. I think I have it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
If you want me to start to naming name, you
could probably figure that one out. I've got it right here,
name it nah? No, nah, keep him naming. Okay, back
in the moment, ten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Daguars YouTube.
It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Let's go back to the start one.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
You know, it's a big upside because basically went through
the Hey.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
One of the trademarks of our leadership group is that
when there's an opportunity to be bold, we won't flinch.
You know, I don't know that there was much expectation
as much as it was just curiosity.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
People will learn pretty quick once we start making legit
decisions that we know.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The James gang to leave and I were sitting in
the draft room, maybe he says, you think about maybe making.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
A phone called the Cleveland regardless of how things fall,
well enough in a position to be better tomorrow than
the ward today.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Pretty much immediately, at least in my mind, why not
to night it's still good for the same kind executing it.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It wasn't at our mercy.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
There was confidence that it wouldn't be able to get
done with the first.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
A lot of people said, well boy, you gave it
a lot. My response is, did we we got the
best player? Time will tell to me it was a
small price to pay. Let's make history. Let's go fear
of the unknown.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
That can be an inhibitors.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Giving the tombs up on our eyes fat and it's
never enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
The rest of the appreciate.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
In the moments that I didn't take action out of
fear I had looked back at and regretted.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Hey, Travis is James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
How you doing for the rest of my life when
there's the opportunity for me to face fear that challenge.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Because you're the one we've been hunting up.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I'm hopeful that that brings with it positive results.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
But only time will tell.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's easier for the Hunch. Episode two entitled time will
Tell They've used Tonight Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube seven
o'clock Tonight logs forty minutes worth of inside the Trade
for Travis Hunter. It is absolutely must watch TV in
(39:12):
my opinion, I'm a huge fan of the Hunt. I've
been tooting that horn for the last couple of years now.
The job that the Jaguars production staff does with this
program is amazing. The access has never been as great
as it is now, which makes the storytelling even more compelling.
(39:34):
I will watch it tomorrow trust me, I won't watch
it tonight. You're kind of busy today, a little busy tonight.
But in fact, on the way in here today, I
took an uber in today. Not because I was drinking
heavily today, but because we're meeting the family down here
today and we're all being one vehicle. Hey, no judgment.
(39:54):
I wasn't day drinking. And I was talking to the
guy John that was my driver, had a really nice
car by the way and trying to get free rides,
you know, and I was telling him about this program,
The Hunt, and I told him, I said, look, I said,
this is an incredible show. You need to watch it.
(40:14):
And he asked me immediately. Is it available on YouTube?
And I said that's where it's at, so check it out.
So he said he's all fired up to watch it.
He didn't even know that something like that existed. So
I'm here to tell you, folks, if you love the
Jaguars and you love football, you love compelling stories, watch
The Hunt.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
I'm going to guess that the actual selection of Travis
Hunter was less than forty minutes into the draft real time.
This is forty minutes worth of content around that moment,
which is pretty cool with info and behind the scenes and.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
How many episodes total is it going to be? I
don't know. There's so much stuff that. I mean, this
whole crew over here has got stuff on the.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Floor and in the deepen the archives, and they're gonna
dig it out as we go along here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
And it's always ended kind of once the season began, right,
Could it end up continuing into the season, that would
be cool? Huh hm? Interesting? I mean, are you gonna
was somebody or I'm just saying you're asking now, I
would watch it, right, Yeah, well why not? Well, I mean,
(41:29):
as long as you're not you gotta you gotta be smart,
and our our production department is smart. There are some
that aren't. I was gonna say, hey, I'll leave this
to you. I'm out of this one. I'm just kidding.
Have a little fun there, have a little fun there,
but I'm excited about the hunt. Folks, go to YouTube,
(41:52):
type in Jacksonville Jaguar at the Hunt, the name of
the team, subscribe, check it out. Check it out, man,
and don't watch too. If you haven't seen one, yeah,
go back and watch one before you watch two. Good idea.
They're kind of in order to ignore the ones in
the past that have had previous regimes all that kind
(42:14):
of stuff. Yeah, I mean it's it's time to move.
We're looking ahead. Earlier earlier at the review, still talking
about a defense. Well, you got to kind of know
where you've been to understand where you're headed and why
why we have uh all jumped on the direction that
(42:40):
this team is traveling at. Why we're all kind of
on board? That's deep thoughts. What's in that coffee anyway tonight?
My goodness, deep No whiskey. They didn't have that option
over there at coffee station here at the mech I
would say so no, so probably not, although you know
I probably wouldn't mind. One of those Irish cream things
(43:01):
in here. Wouldn't be a bad idea. It may not
be a great idea before a radio show, Oh it
might make it really interesting. I had a guy the
last one. I had a guy. Not to name any
names again, why don't you ever named names? Man? Come on,
say it with your I had a guy that I
worked with in the past doing one of these very
(43:22):
shows that would come in with a coffee cup kind
of like this, and it didn't necessarily have coffee in it. Hey,
and by the time the show got towards the end
of the first hour, sometime second hour, things got a
little interesting. Uh huh, Yeah, Okay, we'll stay away from that.
(43:43):
I think I'm not I'm not a proponent or one
that likes the magic coffee. I'm okay with regular coffee.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm not going to ask you about the magic coffee.
That's a difference. Hey, next week, oht what there's noth.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
One tomorrow I suppose, and then there's what four on
the schedule next week, the final week of OTAs, and
then the week after that three day mandatory mini camp
and then it's all over. Yeah. The mini camp is
really what I'm looking forward to. I expect that to
be kind of pretty competitive. I mean, the OTAs that
they're doing right now is it doesn't have that. Not
(44:23):
all of them, Like today was kind of chill, but
some of them are competitive. Some of them they scale
it back a little bit. And the mini camp I
would expect to be highly competitive. And I'm looking forward
to that, which I believe the tenth, eleven, twelfth of June,
looking forward to that very much. There'll be some surprise
announcements coming up regarding one of those days. Okay, but
(44:47):
we'll tease that stay tuned, stay tuned. I like that idea.
Stay tuned. You don't even know what I'm talking about. Well,
I mean, maybe Travis Hunter has a jersey that's half
white and half teal, because that's the first thing I'm
looking for. Maybe, maybe so.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
But the other Trevor Lawrence Ters is like that Clemson Jaguars.
I think I've seen people with those. I've never seen
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Down in the middle. I'm excited to see what he's
going to do this year. I'm that serious about this. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, come on, man, because you know, here's the reality.
If you look back and see what Liam Khne did
with Baker Mayfield, you look at and I believe the
(45:33):
Jaguars have a very smart offensive coordinator who's very young,
who is going to be a hot coaching candidate at
some point, in Grant Yudinsky. You combine Liam Khne Yudinsky
with Trevor, who is as hard working and as mature
as any quarterback that you could have. I think that
(45:56):
that's going to be a really strong recipe for success
this year. And I'm not saying they're going to win
at all or anything of that nature. I just think
it's going to be really good for this football team,
and I think it's going to be really good for
Trevor this year. And if you look at what's happening
in front of him, and then also what's happening on
(46:16):
the periphery of him, which is the talent, and then
also behind him, all of those areas have been I
think upgraded and made to have more competition than arguably
ever before in his tenure here. A lot of it too.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Liam Cohen talked about this and Trevor has talked about
it this offseason, is that the work on footwork that
kind of goes with the progressions in this offense, and
it'll just continue to be a work in progress for him.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I think, well, that's what this time of year is for.
If you go back and you look at the very
first ota that they had, it wasn't a great day
for Trevor, you know. So part of I think acclimating
to the new system is getting an understanding of what's
expected and how to do it from a footwork standpoint,
(47:05):
Because the reality is, how many times have you heard
me JP saying watching film on a quarterback and saying
he's got no chance because his feet ain't right. I
mean with quarterbacks, if you watch their feet, you can
literally a lot of times watch film, ignore where the
ball is, watch the feet of the quarterback. Okay, like
put a piece of paper over the screen so all
(47:29):
you can see is to watch the feet of the quarterback.
And then with I would say seventy five percent accuracy,
you can say whether or not that was a successful
player or not based on just watching the feet of
the quarterback. And that's true. And this is the time
(47:50):
of year where you've got to break the old habits,
establish the new and essentially evolve into the offense with
your whole body. And that with a quarterback. Obviously, defeat
are critical. Run game will help too well. And two
new running backs in that back. So it's gonna be
(48:11):
fascinating to see how camp goes there. I can't wait
to see it. Look, competition's great, man. Look in the past,
that was I think a position group that had very
little competition. You added Tank Bigsby. But before that you're like,
did they add anybody out of consequence? No? Like last year,
(48:33):
if you looked at the running back room, did you
have any idea or any kind of curiosity about who's
going to make the team at the running back spot
or how the roles would be defined. Nope. How does
that look this year? I mean, yeah, there's all a
whole new group. You got Twoton, Alan and Jackson, Quinn, Allen, Tank, Bigsby.
(48:56):
Who's going to get Robinson? Yeah? Who's gonna get what?
I think that's the beauty of what's kind of changed
with this team last year? Offensive line? Did you ever
have an idea or did you ever think for a
minute last year going to the training camp? You know what,
I don't know who's going to start at left guard?
(49:17):
I'm not sure, or did you know every position where
it was going to be. It's tough you had an idea, right,
that's right? This year, I think there's competition, legitimate competition
at I would say three positions.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
We talked about renaming the positions on the defensive line.
All the offensive line are listed as OL now on
the roster. Hey, wide open, Wide Open Blogs. Will see
you in two weeks looking forward to this program.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Jeffe in two weeks during a mini camp, Yes, Jeff
flagoing or thanks to David Chobritt, Reeber, Joe Fortunato, and
thanks to you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1 (50:00):
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