If your downloads have dipped and you’re thinking, “The podcast is broken, what am I doing wrong?”—you’re not alone. It’s easy to spiral when numbers dip, but more downloads doesn’t equal more sales.
Your show has a job inside your sales process. The real question isn’t “How do I get more listeners?” It’s “Is my show actually moving the right people closer to becoming clients?” Those are two different problems, and solving the wrong one will leave you frustrated.
In this episode of The More Profitable Podcast, we’ll talk about what actually matters when you look at your podcast numbers, how to measure success in a way that matches your business goals, and the content shifts that will help you attract and convert the clients you actually want.
1:24 – The real question to ask instead of “how do I get more listeners?”
2:41 – The first step if you’re unhappy with your numbers
5:59 – Why your download expectations are probably unrealistic
7:32 – How comparing your show to itself helps you see progress
10:00 – Shifting your goals from audience size to sales alignment
14:43 – What realistic capacity looks like for most coaches and service providers
17:36 – Why chasing thousands of new listeners can break your business
19:57 – The three core jobs your podcast content should do
21:06 – Why right-fit listeners are better than hundreds of casual ones
23:07 – Retention as the real driver of revenue
24:29 – Building content that works like SEO for long-term discoverability
27:26 – The timeless advice that still works no matter how the platforms change
28:44 – Building a bingeable library that attracts and converts the right people
29:03 – How to shift from chasing growth to building leads that actually buy
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