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March 5, 2020 81 mins

Nasiona podcast producers and editors Aïcha Martine ThiamNicole Zelniker, and Julián Esteban Torres López explore why it's so difficult to discuss race, how race differs in different countries, race in publishing, share personal anecdotes, and give our take on Jordan Peele's "documentary" Get Out.

The podcast series is the companion to Zelniker's book, Mixed, published by The Nasiona and available in paperback on Amazon, on Amazon Kindle and on Barnes and Noble’s website. In both the book and the podcast series, Zelniker spoke to dozens of mixed-race families and individuals, as well as experts in the field about their own experiences, with the hope to fill a gap in the very important conversation about race in the US today. We shared with you discussions regarding relationships, adoption, education, parenting, disability inclusion, activism, intersectionality, family, passing as white, among other topics. Last October, Aïcha, Nicole, and Julián had a post-production conversation about the podcast series: what hit home for us, what we learned, and what surprised us. Today's episode is that conversation.

This episode was edited and produced by Julián Esteban Torres López.

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