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November 10, 2025 111 mins
Protein is one of the most talked-about nutrients, yet confusion remains about how much we need and which sources are best. I am joined by Dr Matthew Nagra to unpack the science on protein intake, plant versus animal sources, and how to build strength and longevity without compromising your health or the planet. What We Cover The evidence-based protein range for muscle and strength How plant and animal protein compare when total intake is matched Why training drives results more than protein alone New findings linking plant protein to lower chronic disease risk What the Andrea Glenn study reveals about protein density and heart health IGF-1 and mTOR myths and what the data really show The environmental and practical case for plant protein Protein plays a vital role in health, ageing and performance. This episode will help you cut through the noise and make confident, evidence-based choices. You can learn more from Dr Matthew Nagra by following him on Instagram and YouTube, or by visiting his website where he shares articles, resources and practical advice on nutrition and healthy living. Intro (00:00) The Protein Problem No One Can Agree On (00:57) Are You Eating Enough or Too Much Protein? (6:10) The Truth About Plant vs Animal Protein (16:16) What Really Drives Muscle Growth (21:57) The Surprising Science on Protein and Aging (24:42) Does Your Protein Choice Affect Disease Risk? (41:02) What Long-Term Studies Reveal About Health and Longevity (44:58) Is More Protein Always Better? (58:11) Why Nutrition Research Is So Confusing (01:07:10) The Hidden Cost of Animal Protein (01:13:35) Final Thoughts That Might Change How You Eat (01:43:53) This episode is brought to you by: 38TERA Consider 38TERA's DMN prebiotic supplement a daily multivitamin for your gut. Formulated by yours truly and gastroenterologist Dr Will Bulsiewicz. Use code THEPROOF for a discount at checkout. Function Health Take charge of your health with advanced blood testing and personalised insights. Function Health provides a practical solution to track key health markers such as cholesterol, blood sugar, and more. For the first 1,000 listeners, new members get a $100 credit when signing up. Head to functionhealth.com/simonhill to claim your credit. Only available to those living in the United States. Eight Sleep  Upgrade your sleep with the Pod 5 Ultra by Eight Sleep. Clinically validated to deliver up to 1 extra hour of quality sleep per night through temperature control and biometric tracking. Use code THEPROOF for $700 off at eightsleep.com/theproof. Try it risk-free for 30 days, with worldwide shipping. Shopify Shopify, the world's leading e-commerce platform, helps you turn browsers into buyers with the internet’s best-converting check out–up to 36% better compared to other leading e-commerce platforms. To boost your conversion rate, and grow your business, sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/proof. Momentous My go-to supplement brand for protein and creatine is Momentous. Use code theproof for up to 35% off your first order at livemomentous.com. AirBnB Right in the heart of the city, I’ve been hosting a hands-on Airbnb Experience at Little City Farm that’s all about plant diversity, gut health, and delicious food. For more information, or to find other experiences on your next trip, check out airbnb.com/experiences. Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com Host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Subscribe & Connect: YouTube Apple Podcasts Spotify Instagram: @simonhill Twitter: @theproof Facebook: The Proof with Simon Hill
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