Episode 767: Girl Stuff is Always Great

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And now it's time for the shining Wizards.

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All right, welcome to episode 767.
Of the 6/7. Oh boy, we are a three man crew
tonight. HK was here before but didn't
like what he was doing so he left.
But we're carrying on with Kate the great corner at 7:10
tonight. This week Cena's tournament

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begins on Raw. AE WS given us a double dose of
blood and guts. We also know what who
Tanahashi's final opponent is, bitch.
So let's let's just get into it with some wrestling talk.
And talk about wrestling. Brando.
Double T, Tony. Almost got all that out. 6-7 I.

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Still don't know what that is? Doesn't matter.
You don't need to know. I don't.
Want to know my sock bait? It's very stupid, no?
I don't know. Brother had me laughing in the
pre show meeting talking about how much he loved the original
production of The Shining Wizards.

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Yeah, we should definitely go tothat.
If you guys aren't on the Patreon right now, I think I
think the four of us are hittingour strides.
Matt and I are doing the Wizardshistory and we're getting the
The Rogue Indie Chronicles from Brundo and HK.
That's a 2 for every month folks.
Friday next episode drops. Fuck yeah.

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And on top of that, I am almost done putting together the post
show reading of the titles episode.
We've got about an hour's worth an hour's worth of audio
already, so. If we weren't cancelled before,
we're going to be cancelled now with some of those names.
Good. Times.
Good times. I mean, they're interesting,

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yeah. Tony, I have I have a whole
document of every single name ifyou want to somehow attach it or
include it with that. I I think it's funnier if people
are hearing them again for for the first time, you know,
because usually it's like, writeit down, write it down, but they
don't get the whole conglomeration of episode title

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potential, you know, that we getat the end of every episode.
Oh, just the last one. Brendo reads the names and we
kind of like think about what the context was for some of them
and just other ones that just funny to hear them come out of
his mouth. It's good shit.
It's really good shit. It's.
Great to hear stuff come out of my mouth.
Double T You look perplexed. I'm good.

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I'm great. I'm.
I not. I am super excited.
I I got so much wrestling to talk about with you guys
tonight. We got Kate coming.
Oh, yeah. Oops.
Sorry, Macho. I'll tell you what, I love when
the cleaning crew comes, but they move things and like, I
just want to hit the bell and I just hit the the corner of my

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Macho Man Randy Savage statue and it kind of hurt 'cause they
move my bell. Everything is like, I know where
everything is. So if you move it, it really
messes me up. Move this here, move that back
there. But I'm excited.
AW, rolled out another championship belt.
I mean, Brendo since at the beginning Brendo with a very
funny joke about Hansel. Kevin.
I don't know if people caught that.

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What? What?
A home run intro? That's why I write it down, or
else it's a bunch of garbage. Did you use the?
You should have used the the teleprompter.
Oh, that's a good idea, right? Teleprompter.
Yeah. Because then it won't look look
like I'm looking away or something, right?
I like that. I look away too much when when
we have a guest and I'm looking at the laptop over here.

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That's why I get all my information.
Oh, Corrections Corner from lastweek too.
It is not Deadlock Pro that is coming to the Heart Ballroom in
Newark. Oh, that's too good.
No, it's. God damn it, I just forgot what
the. Fucking company was.
A rival, right? No.
Is it? That that's what we saw last

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year. What's?
The dated What's the dated heart?
November 21st. Let's see if we do Wrestling,
Revolver and Arrival. That's it.
Yeah, Yeah. That is a bummer about DPW, man.
That's what what happened to DPW.

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They're running like two more shows and then that's it.
Well, UWA Elite is coming to a close too after how many years
of doing shows? So wasn't that like a thing
where they the guy sold it to Tommy Fiero and then he like he
were like reneged on it and pulled the rug out from
underneath him and then it endedup all falling apart anyway?
I don't know, I, I thought, I don't know, like I, I know we

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know people that have gone through UWA, but like, it always
kind of had a reputation to it, you know what I'm saying?
Like I remember that shit from like the, the like Declaration
of Independence years ago. I've, I've, I seem to recall a
lot of people having problems with UWA elite or whatever,
whatever, whatever amalgamation it is now.
But yeah, for some reason I always, I always remember people

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like talking shit about it. I, I never got into it really.
I know Louis spent some time there, so you know it couldn't
have been all that bad, but. Tony, that's an idea for bonus
show one day. What's that?
Declaration of Independence and read off the message board.
Oh my God, we'd have to. We'd have to go into the

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archive, right? Like there's no shit.
They had it at one point becauseI remember looking at it and
it's just like, oh, we probably couldn't read like 90% of it.
Oh, it was nuts. It was nuts.
Yeah. I mean, you spent some time on
there, right, Brendo? Oh yeah, yeah, it was a regular

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reader bro. Not a poster though.
No, me either. Like it was, It was very rare
that I ever got involved in anything.
But it was mostly like Jack Sabbath's daughter has AIDS.
You know her charisma has AIDS. Yeah, everybody had AIDS at some
point, according to the folks atthe declaration.
My God, what a fucking trip downearly Internet wrestling

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community memory lane. Speaking of which, Brian Solomon
recently interviewed one of the one of my favorite guests of all
time on the show, Scott Keith. I listened to that.
I actually, well, I listened what, 2 weeks ago, I started
following Shut Up and Wrestle. I listened to the Joel Gertner
episode and then I listened to the Scott Keith episode.

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Excuse me? Yeah.
And, and the Joel Gertner one was good.
I sent it over to Phil actually to put it on his radar because
it was a lot of like the 1st 20 minutes was a lot of like
Brooklyn talk. I mean, it was necessary though,
because that's where Brian and Joel, you know, both grew up.
So they had like, they both at different points had like, you
know, involvement with the independent wrestling scene

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there. So, you know, kind of cool.
It was cool walking down memory lane.
And Joel's always a great guest anyway.
Joel's a fucking fountain of information, so he really is.
Oh, he's very soft spoken though.
And I had a hard time hearing. Yeah, he is.
Even when I interviewed him years ago, he was kind of the
same. Yeah.
But he's also much older at this, you know, point too.

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I think I interviewed him, what,like 10-11 years ago maybe.
Maybe longer than that. Sorry I got people I What's the
matter bro? Tell us what's happening.
Yeah, what's wrong? What's?
Wrong. I run several 2 fantasy football
leagues. I was going to say, if you would
have stopped that, I run, I would have been like, bro, I

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mean, at least it's not in your basement in a circle.
And I sent every year at the beginning of the season, I send
a very in depth e-mail, like look over things.
You have any questions they ask.We're at week 10 now and people
are just texting me like, oh, sothis is how things are.
I don't have fucking time for this nonsense, people.

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Now we're 10 weeks into the season.
You should know how things work.Let me ask you, has everybody
paid you yet? No, I have sent that e-mail
today. I think.
I think I recall a certain former member of the Shining
Wizards Network nation. Someone was sniffing you on
money for a long time. Someone did get away.

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Someone in the that was going toPWS regularly.
Some piece of shit regular. He skipped out on $50.00 for
fantasy baseball one year. He blocked me on Facebook,
blocked me on Twitter. Wait, when you say regular you
don't mean somebody that was part of the roster?
No, some fucking dork ass fan. So I needed somebody to fill and

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he was like, yeah, I'll do it. And then like he fucking goes to
me when I need a payment. Some fucking scumbags retard
retard fucking raw way disaster.That's a double R there.
There we go, the Broadway retard.
I'm surprised. I'm surprised Eddie never
floated that as a gimmick for fucking PWS.
Trust me, I'm sure it was floated.

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Speaking of bad gimmicks, Eddie was a wrestler.
Wait, what happened? Eddie was a wrestler.
No. I mean, sort of kind of.
He was more, he's more known as a manager, not a wrestling.
You want to hear us talk about Eddie?
Join the fucking Patreon. Oh what the fuck?
Well, our guest is. Here.
And I don't want to talk about Eddie.
Maybe Brundo? Does no, I was I was trying to

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Eddie do Broadway retard. Brundo's got a kid, he doesn't
need to be hearing about Eddie really.
Seriously, What you? Buck is going to be summoned
into the chat now. Buck.
Never buckneverstops.com hell. What?
Is wrong with you. What?
Me what is wrong you? Gotta stop listening.
To the archive. You know why?

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Because now he's putting bad thoughts in your head.
I don't want to go back to old Matt.
I like Matt the way he is right now.
I'm good, I'm good. I don't like 13 years ago Matt
fire alarm pulling retard dropping N word mumbling I I
don't want that Matt. Anymore.
That's why I never pulled a firealarm and I didn't know Phil was
going to post that that. Hard RI dropped in the hook I.

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Forgot about that. Holy shit.
I didn't. I didn't, boy I didn't.
I didn't. Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
I also don't want Matt from 13 years.
Ago God all. Right.
Hold on, Hansel. Kevin's not here.
Oh, God. I got it.
I got it. Let's.
OK. I still got this dumb banner

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going across the bottom. No, it's gone.
We're good. Are we going to make like Kate's
corner or we're just doing, you want me to make Kate's corner
final? I mean, this is her segment.
I'm right there. Maybe like maybe like a
Halloween background. Now you're fucking pushing your
luck, little man. Wait, I'll take that.

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I'm usually called fat. Oh.
Yeah. I like this one.
Spooky. Now we're here, now we're here.
What's going on, fellas? Hi, Kate.
Hi, Kate. I told the boys no, no
inappropriate behavior from them.
Did see here's you didn't. No, I, I I have.
To put that out. There so so when one of you guys

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fucks up, she knows that we talked about this and it's your
fault. I'm disappointed that you don't
trust me and brundo enough. No, never not 0% anything with
Kate 0%. I trust you guys.
I trust handsome. Kevin, 100% compared to how much
I trust you. Guys, I like that Matt goes why
as if there is a a monthly log of evidence.

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He. Said that he didn't want to talk
like that and I said I'm good with it.
To prove that I'm a better friend than Handsome Kevin.
I wasn't. I'm not going to say anything
like that. I showed up.
Tonight handsome Kevin was here,didn't like what we told him,
like Brendo said, and he left. He just grabbed his shit and he
left. Yeah, he was like.

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I'm. Handsome, I'm out of here.
He didn't like his three minute spot on the show.
Yeah. Yeah, he was like, you know what
if it if we're 10 minutes I would stay here, but it's 3
minutes so me if I tagged you partner walking out of here and.
Then he just posted on Instagram, Great, great Monday
night beer. And I was like, that's weird,

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why would you do that? No, he's a better way to spend a
Monday. He's in Mexico, isn't he?
No, he's not in Mexico. He's in his fucking house
watching the shitty football game.
Oh yeah, He's having a bro night, all right.
A bro night. It's like his two fucking
friends 'cause he doesn't socialize with people out there.
Who is it? J Bo and Duke?

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J Bo and probably Petey. Oh God, what's his name?
Steep. Steep.
Steep, steep. His friend Steep, right?
His wife. There's like.
Steak, steak, steak. His wife, Joanne.
Joanne. She's she's a real Mensch, that

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Joanne. She's Jewish.
Mensch. Wait, she's not.
Jewish. Wait, Mensch is non Jewish?
No, Mensch is a good person. Goyim is not Jewish.
I know that. There we go.
Oh, thanks, Rabbi. You want to do a Jewish
impression? I'll just go, huh?
After I say everything, Kada, you want to talk?

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AW, huh. First of all, nailed it.
Second of all, I think we're going to talk about AW, because
I think we're going to talk about how many damn belts are on
these shows, man. Not enough.
I'm going to say way too fuckingmany.

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All right in in. Fairness.
In fairness, WWE is fucking catching up very quickly, by the
way. No, honestly, like I was like,
man, that it's kind of across both promotions.
I was like, wait, no, it's everywhere because it's in CMLL.
It's in New Japan too, where I just feel like I'm someone that
feels like world title, mid title, tag titles, maybe trios

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titles, and like I'm good. You want to do a third one?
Sure, but I think the frustration in AW is 1, you have
so many of those ROH titles alsopopping up on your program and
two, you just unified 2 titles to get rid of the fact that you
have too many belts and you introduced another belt.

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Well, the women's tag title tournament is going on.
It's like we can't even get through crowning one set of
champions before we move on to introducing the other belt.
So I think it's company wide andI, I feel like WWE definitely
suffers from it too, because if you look at the US title, I
mean, they just gave it back to Chelsea.
But my God, like, what a kind ofdisaster that the booking has

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been on that side as well. Like you have someone as good as
Julia and you can't figure out what to do with her.
Come on. Like Selena Vega held it for 5
minutes. Chelsea was only allowed to
fight me chin before I I remember a couple weeks ago
before like Keanu James had entered the picture with Julia
in the entire existence of the US title, like only 5 women had

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either held it or challenged forit and the entire existence of
it and the continental title wasn't much better until Becky
came back. So I think it's certainly an
oversaturation, but AW is suffering from it more because
they just unified 2 titles to get rid of this problem.
But I also don't give a crap about N.W.A.

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So that like whole sub story at N.W.A getting mad about it.
I'll leave that to the historians on the show because I
don't know anything. There is.
Here's the thing. The N.W.A National Heavyweight
Title has not been a thing since1986.
The lineage of that title is theWWE United States Heavyweight
Championship. The national title was in

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Georgia Championship Wrestling from 1980 to 1986, and then in
1986 Nikita Koloff won a match that unified that and the US
title. It wasn't it.
Only around for. Like 6 years or something.
And then, yeah. And then Billy dusted it.
Billy dusted it off in like 2000.
And 19, I think, which means that his lineage is actually

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probably longer than the GeorgiaChampionship Wrestling lineage.
So if anybody has claim to that title, it's definitely Billy
Corgan. Yes, it would be one year
longer. 2018, Willie Mack beat Sam Shaw to win the title at the
70th N.W.A Anniversary Show, andthat was before 01.
So that's not even a Billy Corgan creation.

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Wow. Right.
Well, didn't 01 take over? Did 01 take over in 2018 or
201901? What 01?
Is Billy the Japanese promotion?No, that's his, that's his
corporation. That all you say?
Was even 2019, wasn't it 'cause I feel like the pandemic came in

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right on the heels of them getting hot.
But that is funny because, like,sometimes I think Tony Khan is
such a like, obsessive historianthat he thinks things are going
to be interesting to everybody that aren't necessarily like, he
gets so, and honestly, that's better than someone who doesn't

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care. But like, he gets so geeked out
on certain aspects that don't translate to like a more
moderately casual audience. But this one was funny because I
was like, oh, this is probably avehicle for Tony Khan because
he's like such a a nerd about this stuff.
He's probably just geeked out about it.
And then I did the slightest bitof research and then talking to
you guys further, it's like, well, no, this isn't some like

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great piece of history that's being revived.
This was. Like and it's so weird that they
like present it like this is like they get Tony Shivani out
there and it's like it's just weird and it's easy to shit all
over there right like to your point Kate, like they have a
zillion like I don't know, it's so hard to care right now about

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either promotion and what they're doing.
They W and WWE like the booking is horrendous across the board
in my opinion, and then at like what are the positives 'cause
they're like, Oh well, this title will be defended
everywhere. Well, if you've looked at.
Any relationship that either promotions had, they're not
sending their champions elsewhere to lose.

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So when you get Max Caster, the national heavyweight champion,
going to create a pro like he's not losing the title to whoever.
So like, do I want? I don't know, do I give a shit?
No, I don't. So I think the intention with
this is to be something that is more ambassadorial and that it's

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not going to be heavily featuredon AW.
That's kind of like the one saving grace that I had heard
about this. But there's a few things with
that. One, I'm pretty sure that they
said that about the international title before it
got unified with with the continental title.
So there's that. But that was supposed to go
everywhere, Europe and Asia and everything and it probably, I
don't think it ever got defendedin those in other companies and.

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The other thing is like, it's, it's so funny because I feel
like the TNA invasion angle at NXT fell flat.
I feel like Forbidden Door, we, we talked about this on this
segment before. It's not a forbidding concept
anymore. So it's also not like, oh, this
is ambassadorial and that's the only lifeline to those

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relationships. It's like we see these talent
exchanges all the time now. I think it would be really cool.
I don't think they're going to do this, especially based on
what we saw Wednesday, like Bobby Lashley and Ricochet being
the first two people to kind of face off for it, which I I
actually think like both of those guys, people would like to
see what the belt, but they would want to see them hold it.
And it means something like if they give it to Leo Rush and we

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barely saw it on television and that guy was just going to Japan
and Mexico and where whatever inDC wanted to with an AW belt.
I think that would be awesome because that's a guy who like
can wrestle in any environment, has wrestled in any environment
is incredible and ring worker and isn't really on screen right
now. So that gives you something to
sink your teeth into. My thing is like I think the

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vision for the belt is all right, but when you're hardcore
base. I heard Brian Alvarez saying
this and I had the exact same thought.
Like the best thing I think anybody saw in the quote UN
quote discourse was like people being like, well, I don't mind
it. That's like well, that's not
great. If like your hardcore fan base
is like I, it's I, it's fine. It's benign.

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I think it's really bad and I think a lot of people are
feeling belt fatigue. But Matt, like you, you said it
before it, this autumn slump hits for both promotions every
time. I think in the case of AW, it
lining up with football season is not a surprise.
Like everybody thinks that Tony Khan is too involved in the
product. I feel like when he actually

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goes away from the product to get significantly worse year
after year. This happens with AW one time
the C2 bailed them out, not so much last year.
It took them getting to the following year to reset and WWE
just isn't going to give a shit till till Royal Rumble it seems
like. But I don't know if you mess up
John Cena's retirement tour as badly as they have.

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I don't know if it's just like an autumn slump we're in because
he's got like 3 dates left and multiple programs to work.
So how are you going to make that work?
But it's it's tough to watch so many hours of uninspired
television. Honestly, like it's it's been
really both both products feel like they're not really trying.

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I like awa little bit more just because the ceilings a little
bit higher of what their cruise control is and there's such an
emphasis on in ring. I'm at least going to be
entertained by the matches that are given to me for the most
part. But like neither are are killing
it right now. It's it's pretty exhausting.
Call it lazy W. Lazy WI like that a lot.

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Yeah, 'cause Wednesday was horrendous.
WW lazy. We did.
We did the exact same thing withthe men's who's gonna get the
advantage match, and then 20 minutes later they did the exact
same thing with the women. Everybody comes out, everybody
brought. It's just, I, I just don't think

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anyone in either of these companies has a fucking creative
bone lately. How about we let the the heels
win the two matches, right? Why, why is it every four months
the lights go out or somebody shows up in a fucking black
hoodie? Like it's not a surprise
anymore. It's just lazy fucking booking
across the board and it's suit like the, the men had their

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match and then everybody that's going to be in blood and guts
comes out. It's a big schmoz.
Great. They are all fighting.
But then to do it 20 minutes later with the women, it's like,
I just saw this. I literally just saw the same
thing. It feels sometimes like but
uninspired is always the word I go back to because it's
especially when it just feels like match agents just aren't

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talking to each other like it. It's so it doesn't, it's it's so
much worse to be bored than think something is bad.
I feel like watching wrestling, like at least take a risk and
let it fall flat on its face. But the other thing with the
blood and gut stuff is like, I don't think we had to throw
together a men's one. Like I feel like you could have

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just let the women's blood and guts happen and not thrown
together like the conglomerationversus the death riders.
I will say the one thing I'm looking forward to is it does
feel like we're getting to Jon Moxley getting tossed out of the
Death Riders, and I think that'sgood for the product.
I think Jon Moxley works better as a face.
I hope it's like Claudio's Revenge Tour because I feel like
that guy deserves it more than anybody.

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But it also feels like Daniel Garcia just got there a couple
minutes ago. So it's, it's tough from a
timing perspective. I'm wondering if they push back
like the Moxley kicking them outof there since like Swerve and
Osprey went out at the same timeand they're like well we can't
take this guy off the TV. At this point.
With these guys, well. It it's a good call because it's

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like Kenny is obviously kind of on this part time schedule,
Osprey swerve being out. But to your point about things
being redundant, Matt, it's likewe're getting Mercedes versus
Chris for the third time, which honestly great matches every
time, like a rerun of a program that happened a year ago.
We're getting Samoa Joe off of aheel turn, I get it.
But against Adam Page, which we got a year ago, you have two of

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your top stars at six. Oh, we got it last month.
I'm sorry, last month, yeah. It's my point being like, it's a
rematch of something we've already seen that's happening in
the world title picture too. So there's a lot of just kind of
tired programs right now. We also just saw Mercedes fight
the world champion title for title in in August or in July,

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right? So it's.
It's lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy.
Also, I, and I I mean this from the bottom of my dead black
heart, I don't give a fuck aboutBandito's mother.
I have seen her way more on AW and Ring of War programming than
I care for. It's so fucking stupid.

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There was no part in that segment.
I don't know why it took Brody King so long to punch through
the fucking door. It just, it's so like, look, I I
can suspend my disbelief, but Stokely weighs 40 fucking
pounds. Brody can't.
I'm surprised that they they didn't just run through the
door. They're banging on the door.

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All of a sudden. He hulked up and punched through
the door. Stop.
It's fucking stupid. It's so fucking dumb.
This is the team that was doing the mock, trying to do the
Macarena in the middle of a fucking title match with fucking
Okada and Takeshda. Like, come on, dude.
Like they won the expected better.
Yeah, dude, Macarena and Missus Dildo is supporting your kid.

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What's the big deal? Yeah.
Oh fuck, missus. Dildo kick rocks abuela dildo.
Oh, dildo Buella. Is Grandma Buella?
There we go. Write that down.
Yeah, good luck spelling. It I, I honestly, because that
show was so like, you're right that it was dumb.

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I kind of loved it. I loved the hand through the
door spot just because to your point, everything felt so like
such a snooze on Wednesday that I'm like, that spot at least got
me because Stokely's face is going to be fucking cartoonish
anytime a spot like that happensand Brody's arm going through
the door and the crowd at least like had some energy for it.

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So you're right in that it's dumb, but it was the kind of
dumb that I felt like needed to break up an episode like that.
But I, I don't disagree. It's stupid.
It is stupid, but it was the kind of stupid I was in the mood
for at that moment. There I just like like.
I've been watching and then it'sdumb.
I've been watching like a lot of80s and 90s wrestling and don't

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get, it's not like it's leaps and bounds better, but it's like
there's so much stuff out there like and, and you can see what
works and what doesn't work. And like, I don't understand why
it's so hard for like like we don't need like there has, there
has to be a voice of reason somewhere.
Like we don't need 30 spots in 10 minutes.

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You don't have to always get your shit in because then it's
nobody remembers anything you did because every single one of
your matches is the same as the last one.
You're not leaving a lasting impression.
Like I would love to hear, I'd love to hear a story of somebody
being like, you know, oh, we didn't get along with so and so

(29:42):
because they didn't want us to do all of our spots.
Well, yeah, you shouldn't do allof your fucking spots in every
fucking match. I think, you know, it's funny,
people got like all up in arms about the, the Hertz Syndicate
and jet speed thing. And I think there was a lot of
things that were misconstrued about that.

(30:04):
But like I actually think the booking of them was good because
I think you need a team that's that dominant now.
I, I've actually feel like the hurt syndicate versus the demand
has been one of the better programs.
But like there's no to your point Matt, like variety in
what's getting told. That's where.

(30:24):
So This is why they do the SamoaJoe break glass thing where I
swear they just go back to him when when they need something
because that dude will say 3 words and make you believe it's
a fight. Like I've been screaming this on
so many podcasts like nothing feels like a fight.
Like nothing on either program feels like an actual fight to

(30:45):
me. Like Drew and Cody did a good
enough job in in their go home but Drew's now just lost clean
twice to Cody so that's fucking dead.
But like I, you know how I feel about Eddie Kingston, like he
comes back and like this hook stuff is fine, but like you
Osprey and swerve out, you bringback Orange Cassidy, who I know
Tony loves, but like whether or not Tony loves him, he's he's

(31:07):
their most popular babyface. Like if you look at the numbers,
he is wildly popular and they just kind of throw him in this
mishmash of guys. Eddie, I was like this will
bring back like that thing that I want of people actually
feeling like they want to fucking fight each other and
they've thrown him in this hook thing.
I just, I don't know, like it. It doesn't really work the same

(31:27):
for me. Like Joe's a guy like that.
I wish they would feature Shane Taylor like I I really do.
He's on Ring of Honor, Kate. Like I said, I wish they would
feature Shane Taylor. Like people that actually feel
like they they want to beat someone up is just like
something that's not in any promotion right now.

(31:49):
Shapira. Wants to beat everybody up.
Oh. Yeah, there, there it is.
No, her, her and Roddy they theygot some heat in their marriage.
Man I I watched collision and. I think I like.
Nigel's out there singing Love and marriage.
I was howling. Like, Eddie Kingston is like,

(32:12):
genuine, like, like, I think genuinely lazy.
Oh, don't you do it. I'm gonna fuck you up.
I'm gonna fuck you up. Yeah, I.
Think it was. It beats people up.
Oh, stop that 45 fucking chops. Kenta Kobashi did it and you
should leave it where it is. That's it.
Homage. No, it's not.

(32:33):
Would you prefer if somebody bear hugs somebody to death,
Bruno? Yes.
Marina Shafir does it on Ring ofHonor.
I love it. You don't watch Ring of Honor?
I watched a clip of her barefoot.
Marina Semartino. Write that down too.
You think she's got a hairy backlike Bruno could be.
Maybe that's why they're fighting.
But anyway, yeah. And she's she's in the women's

(32:56):
tag tournament. She's she's, she's tough, man.
She's, you know, there was I, I can't remember which independent
promotion was that, but she gaveher first promo in like months
and I was like, oh, someone's been working with Moxley because
she sounded great on the mic. I I forget which promotion?
She was working with Moxley. I think she pretty clearly is.

(33:22):
Everything. Bro no no no when?
She went when she was in the. Back and she was talking with
Megan Bain and they did the first thing and Moxley just
comes by. Big badass Moxley drowning
fucking people in fish tanks. Moxley goes.
We got a great team here. What's going on?
He leads the fucking faction. He should have punched.
Both of them in the mouth. It's to get in the kitchen.

(33:44):
Yeah, that'll get viewers. No, no, Tony.
Now what are you doing? I think domestic violence, for
someone who's turning babyface, it's probably not like the ankle
they're going. For No, he's into domestic
violence because he made fuckingDarby Allen his bitch.
No he didn't. Darby Allen beat him.

(34:05):
He drowned him though. He didn't.
Darby Allen was hiding under thering with a Taser Saturday
night. Shit, the Taser.
The baseball bat Sting was underthere too.
With his fucking Gray beard. Jesus.
My God, all the mothers, just with the remote.
Oh my God. Sarah Stock lost her mind on
Saturday I bet believe Poor Sarah alone.

(34:27):
She's just trying to live her best life and looking out for
the kids, yeah. I guess all those kids who are
watching death matches on a pay-per-view at fucking
midnight. Hey, man.
I know. Those paper views are 900 years
long. Are you kidding?
Some kids stay up, some parents will let them stay up.
The other half of the kids are rubbing out to the fucking ass

(34:48):
picture she put on fucking Twitter the other day.
Really ass. It's very weird that she's like,
mothers need to stop this, here's me naked posing with my
plans. It's a weird juxtaposition.
There's nothing wrong with that.Stop it.
Oh captain stop. The only fans over there knock
it off. Yeah, it's fucking we're going

(35:09):
to homework tonight's fucking Bron panty Royal Rumble again or
some nonsense. The ex God damn it, I'm not
doing it. I saw it.
I'm not doing it what somebody else is looking after the.
Oh. No.
I don't know what that is after his name though.
Is that his prison number? That's the weird thing that

(35:32):
YouTube does now. What's?
Going on. Yes, that's his.
That's his person number. It's like nails Shogun.
It's a Shogun written in Chineseprison.
Number. That's what's on the jumpsuit,
buddy. Box zoom off Shogun.
Hey, I'm a samurai. Showing someone his gun.

(35:52):
OK, does anyone at Fightful knowyou do this?
What? OK, I don't.
They let you. We're like, yeah, go ahead.
Do that thing where they they talk about Buck zoom off again.
They don't give a shit. Well, they gave Kieran a job.
I mean, let's be honest. Hey.
Did not. Why would you say that?

(36:13):
I love Kieran. I missed the guy.
I wish you would come back. I wish you would respond to my
DMS. There you go.
You want me to send them some? He's got a handful of pussy.
I'll send him a Sarah's stock pic.
I'll be like, hey baby, what's up?
They're free on the Internet. You just got to look up her
Twitter account, like naked or just, I mean, she's on Facebook.
I mean legit Tony, the weirdest part about that whole situation.

(36:37):
Not the 27 tweets about it, her posing naked in plants like on
her veranda. But.
Was she naked? I thought she was wearing like
shorts and shit 'cause I I got afriend.
I got recommended her as a friend when I started.
Like going down the fucking Twitter thing on Facebook.
The old man we finally keep it clean about me.

(37:00):
No. Trying to stalk Sarah.
Because I do my research on Facebook.
That's no. You know, more like Sarah's
stalker, am I right? Actually here, here's something
funny. I don't know if I told you guys.
So I follow Tito Santana on his like on his Facebook group.
Arriba. I get recommended his wife to be
a friend on Facebook. It turns out she's she's got a

(37:22):
mutual friend some some woman I went to high school with.
I'm like, I haven't asked how they know each other.
I just always find that fascinating when people that I
know like from different worlds have some sort of like common
interest in like their friends and stuff.
Just want to keep friends. I'll be friends with everybody.
I like everybody. I.
Don't know. No, I had one of those moments

(37:44):
that Matt's BBQ last year or whatever because Chris Gethard
used to teach my sister improv. He blew me off last.
Time I saw him OK. Oh fuck that guy.
I never liked him. Actually, I take it all back.
Somebody's got my back. Get out of here.

(38:05):
More like it. Crowbar recognized you, gave you
a nice little wave. Crowbar.
She's. She's in, she's in.
She's behind some big potted plant and she's got like Daisy
Dukes on. She's she's not scantily clad
like, you mean, you know, sour stock?
Not Yeah. What are you looking on Facebook
or Twitter? No, Facebook.

(38:25):
Why is Twitter a different beast?
I guess I don't know. Should I log into the X?
If you if you. Oh, wait, not xhamster.
Hold on X November 5th. She posts some pretty NN50.
Did we send? Did we send her a friend request
on the X? Who runs the X?
We're follower. I, I, of course I can't log in

(38:47):
now. This is the Internet grand.
By the way, Billy Corgan did ownthe N.W.A in 2017, so he could
completely be responsible for the revival of the national
championship. She's just taking over the
wrestling world. It's also, by the way, an ugly
belt. That's just a gross looking

(39:08):
belt. Well, the belt they use, in
fairness, the original national belt look like the television
belt, the one that N.W.A still uses, but they use the United
States, some version of the US championship when they did the
national title. So that's why it's the US shape.
And yeah, they kind of, they find they kind of tinkered with
history there. But so that belt was used, but

(39:31):
it was used as AUS title. I feel like I'm, I mean this in
a positive way. Every time I like Listen or I'm
on here, it's the PBS. The more you know, graphic.
I always learned something from you.
It's NBC. The more you know, but I got
you. Oh, is it really learned two
things then? There you go.
See. What we do, we educate.

(39:54):
You do. Get it?
Educate. It's.
Upon. Yes, please write that down with
a high thing just. Sat in his hands.
Oh. Excuse me, dude.
Kate, I understand that you are still on the mend from the vid

(40:17):
or how you're not doing as many shows as you usually do.
No, so I was having some lung issues so my doctors were like
hey maybe don't yap for hours onend about wrestling every night
of the week. So I'm off Mondays and
Wednesdays for right now, but we're doing some some rehab for

(40:41):
getting back there. But no Mondays at Fight Club, no
mark order for me for the next couple weeks, but I should be
back hopefully by the end of themonth.
That's Ross. That must hurt on Wednesday
nights. And listen, anywhere where I
normally am that I'm not there is suffering, I'll just.
Put that all right. Wow.
How does the schlong feel about that?

(41:03):
They're doing all right. We had, we had conversations.
I offered my services to the schlong and I guess he doesn't
need my services. So come on you, you're not a
fucking awake at 10:15 on a Wednesday night.
What are you out of your mind? I could lay in bed and do the
show sex. Hey, I see Tony after amazing.
I'll tell you. What you don't do?
That for this show, just take the I.

(41:23):
Mean it'd be, it'd be perfect because I'm usually falling
asleep when I watch. AW, anyway, I'll tell you what,
if you got a wig and you turn the lights off, the glass is
very similar in the dark. I bet you Tony could pass for
Kate. Ryan has a wig, yeah.
Yeah. Obviously I want to be on for

(41:45):
the big anniversary show, by theway, so I'll DM you about it.
But two? Weeks.
Two weeks till the big anniversary show.
So happy. Happy early anniversary, but
I'll be on there. But it's wild.
Not premature, Kate, I don't know what's going on in your
personal life, but we don't likepremature.
OK. No premature ejaculation, you
know what I'm saying? All right, I've got, I've listen

(42:08):
many a show I do are sponsored by Bluechew, so nothing
premature happening. She's fucking booking herself on
our show now. You love it.
I didn't. I'm not.
Reaching out? No, it's fine.
What? I am not reaching out to Miko.
Who did that? She left.

(42:30):
She said fuck all. Y'all.
She's leaving. Yeah, she left, all right.
She hates us. She hates you for sure.
She talked for too long. Probably.
She was a little, you know. Yeah, when the doctor told her
not to talk a lot, did he realize he was talking to a
woman? Oh, because she removed.

(42:51):
Do you want us to bring you backin?
I don't know what's happening. No, She gone.
She wants us to talk about her, and she don't.
Oh, there she. Is I was making a joke because
you were all you're taking over the show.
I was doing like a fuck you. I'm gone then.
But but yes, I need Miranda L isA to make that happen.
We're going to talk about that, Kate, after you if you exit.

(43:17):
I'll say this, there were reports a while ago that Tony
Kahn was like, you know what? Maybe we don't immediately sign
people from WWE right after theyget released.
Then I think it's paid dividendsin a few ways.
Like I think the people that they bring on more often now
match their product. But I think shit like this is
actually a really good example why.

(43:40):
A really good example why? But I'll leave for real for now
and let you guys get back to theshow.
But I always have fun with you guys and I appreciate you.
Well, Kate, we appreciate you. Thank you for joining us.
For Kate's Corner, there's goingto be a change in the the
dynamic in 2026. So Kate's Corner will not be its
regular scheduled program, but Kate will be joining us on a

(44:03):
topic topic, topic to topic basis.
Is that even? Does that even make sense?
Yeah. When there's a hot topic and you
want some guests to to come in, I'll be one of the guests, yes,
of the many esteemed guests thatyou guys feature on the show
because you do a great job. Well, we love you, Kate.
You're the best. We made it through this whole
thing without saying anything inappropriate, so I would like

(44:26):
now you gotta bring it up. No, you're not.
No, I would like an apology, Tony.
You thought me and Brenda were going to be gross and say shit
like Tony, I asked you not to beand you asked your hitters.
Tony wants to motorboat them. Son of a bitches.
Like we didn't say anything likethat.
Ingratitude for that, fellas, let me just say.
Right, don't do it, Kate, hold on, 'cause then, like, you come

(44:48):
on the show, right? And you're here.
And then Tony reaches out to hismother and she says things.
Things like this. No, some girl talking and
talking. So she doesn't like Kate?
Oh, she's gone. She fucking left.
Bro, don't get nasty with me, I'll get nasty with you.

(45:08):
Why? Well, I in fairness she did say
come in and nobody made a comment.
She said up top and nobody made a comment, so I was impressed.
Yeah, I we told you we weren't going to be inappropriate, but
you don't have to say that before she left.
You could have said it after sheleft.
Big finish. Yeah, See there.
There you go. Big finish right on top.

(45:29):
Mike, my mother's not banging you.
Stop it. So Kate left us with.
Fuck. You know, and Brendo alluded to
it in the intro, we have this AWcollision show Saturday night.
AJ is going to be in action. Is this for the women's

(45:49):
tournament? No, this was it hasn't even
started yet. No the women's tournament.
No it. Started.
They've had two matches so far, yeah.
So then why would they put theseBroads on TV and not put them in
their match? To get them a win or two before
the tournament. To establish them as a fucking

(46:09):
secure team. Sure.
I mean, how many matches have they won in the six years of a
WS existence? Quite a bit, I bet.
Probably none. They're they're like the only
real tag team in the tournament.Yeah, they would.
They were teaming long before they announced we were going to
do, which means they ain't goingto win.
It's neither here nor there. But look, they're going to be on

(46:32):
collision, right? We don't know who they're going
to face, but then reports start coming out.
It was supposed to be the the wrestler.
I don't know what her fucking real name is.
She used to be Tegan Knox and Miranda Alize.
Nixon, Newell. Nixon, Newell.
Oh, it's a great name. Catchy.
Yeah, that's her. I mean, it's just a government

(46:52):
name. It's her government name.
No, it's not. Who named their fucking daughter
Nixon? Oh, let's look it up.
She's from England. Tegan Oh, yeah, that makes more
sense. Yeah.
Nixon Newell. That's the real name, bro.
I didn't. Fucking take it up.

(47:12):
She's from the UK. Who?
Interview her. I'd ask her one question and
say, OK, hit the road. I reached out to her.
I sent Miranda Alizei an e-mail yesterday and said, hey, if you
want to come on your platform and and come on our platform.
Excuse me, what fucking worst? What?

(47:33):
I think I'm having a stroke today.
I was trying to figure out math this afternoon.
It was not going well. Having a stroke, huh?
Yeah, my brain was like, sounds like he needs one Brundo anyway.
Jesus Christ, I want to get yourguys take these two chicks.
Didn't want to lose in 3 minutes.
They felt like it hurt them and they fucking left.

(47:58):
Did they leave the match? They didn't go up for the match.
They showed up. They were like, this is what
we're going to do. You're going to lose to Tay Jay
in 3 minutes. And they were like, that doesn't
work for you brother. How?
My, my, my opening question is do you?
AEW was actually booking a squash match.
Yes. Nobody gets squashed.

(48:20):
AEW you don't. Watch.
Sure they do, brother. No they don't.
Yes they do. Deletion every week.
Yeah, I would have told him to fucking pound rocks too.
Fuck that. You would have told Tony Khan to
pound rocks? Yeah.
Why? Bro he didn't.
Even make eye contact with Tony Shivani announcing that belt.
He stared in the camera the entire fucking time.

(48:41):
That's what he does. He's on the somebody right with
that boy, I'll tell. You.
He's on the spectrum. He's on something.
He's got Asperger's. Allegedly.
Oh, Asperger's. Now I'm hungry.
Yeah. Write that down.
So, so yeah, they, they were like, this don't work for me,

(49:03):
brother. And they left and then, you
know, they maybe made an Instagram post later in the
night, like perfect night for beers.
So like, I don't know, man. It's you're not signed, you get
the opportunity to be on TV, like wouldn't you want to take

(49:27):
that opportunity and did Wasn't she not getting booked like 6
months ago? Like that was a thing.
Yeah, that was 100% of thing. Taya Valkyrie said it fest.
Taya Valkyrie said if you got 3 minutes, you could do a lot of
memorable things in those three minutes.
Make them worth it. Even if whether you have three,
one minute, 3 minute, you know, whatever.

(49:49):
But you know, don't leave because you're going to fuck
yourself. Joey Janellis is a very similar
thing. Think of it as in an acting
audition or you're being an extra in a movie.
Like, you're not going to get a bunch of time, but you can get a
ton of work if you just show up and do your fucking job.
I'm pretty sure the first time Isaw the outrunners was probably
like a 2 minute match and I was like wow I really want to see

(50:12):
more of these guys now. They're fucking biggest baby
faces in fucking AW. So Tony, you're over there going
with your fucking chin up in theair doing the Abraham Lincoln or
whatever you're doing. You're OK with them walking out
this unestablished tag team. I was it rare fire air over

(50:34):
there. What are you doing?
I'm looking up Something on my wall caught my attention, but
I'm I'm thinking I'm kind of. OK, but 3 cup?
Yeah, so like, I sing and shit. I can't hear your bell, Matt.
I can see you. Hitting it, but you really can't
hear that. I'm pretty sure there it is.

(50:58):
Maybe you're still hitting the Macho man.
Where where my mind went to was Joey Janella commenting.
Joey Janella was given a fuckingTony Con contract on a silver
platter and he fucking like likeshitted it away.
So like, I don't know if I buy the fact that somebody how did
he shit it away? Come on dude.

(51:19):
Jelly Nutella. He was getting more out of shape
as the weeks went on. Like how do you fucking get a
hand in a? Contract like that and just go
yeah that don't work for me bro.I also don't think he had a
contract. Come on.
Yeah, he did. He had to.
Him. He was made inventing pay per
views for. Christ's sake he made event any
pay per. Views.
Yeah, he did. He made the.
Contract ran out. He may he fucking moxley fucking

(51:42):
body slim them barefoot on the fucking watchman call it.
Oh fuck, did we get kicked off of Facebook?
What did you do? I didn't do anything.
You broke. They're having trouble.
You broke something. OK.
Yes. He had a contract.
Yeah. Oh, we're back on Facebook.
All right, cool. All right.
Good. Great.
Thanks for fixing that there. OK, terrific.

(52:05):
Yeah, see, we're good. I don't know.
I still. Oh, there we go.
All right. Yeah.
All right, we got a couple people in the chat.
Kate. She just can't get enough of us.
She publicly said she isn't getting bookings, got a booking
after people vowed for her, and then she walked out.
Our good friends at marking out.People should be arguing that
they shouldn't be having three minute matches that do literally
nothing. It didn't do anything for Tay

(52:26):
Jay. What else?
Jersey cow. Jesse back.
He's somewhere here, She says. What's up, fellas?
I finally made it. Hey, come on.
I was wondering if that was Jesse.
Yeah, see, they I don't the fucking YouTube thing is weird
now. Yeah, I don't.
I mean, this got everyone's setting somewhere, right?
Right. I don't like it.

(52:46):
There's got to be a setting thatwe fucked up or YouTube.
Oh, I think that's a that's a stream yard thing.
So dumb. I don't like it totally.
I don't. I don't like it either.
I didn't. I got to fix this.
Put the banner. What'd you do?
Why the the schedule Banner. Why?

(53:07):
What's wrong with the banner? I don't know.
We were talking about. AW, now we got a banner, dude.
Oh, no banner. All right, I'll take the banner
down. There's a reason.
I don't know. I don't know what Handsome
Kevin's method to his madness is.
I think he just. Presses buttons and lugs into
things. By the way, Facebook's down
again. Oh, fuck.

(53:28):
Then fucking fuck Facebook. Go to YouTube anyway, man.
YouTube. We need the YouTube shit.
Facebook's archaic whatever. Look, everyone fucking it's pro
wrestling, man. It's always an audition.
If you don't have a contract, show up and do your fucking job.
Oh, here we go. Mark it out.
I I completely agree. They've been teaming for four

(53:50):
years. What does a squash do for Tay
Tay May, whatever the fuck they're called.
All right, let's We've already established with Kate that the
booking in AW is fucking bad, soI can't answer that question.
Al says you need to start walking around the basement in
circles to understand HK. That's a fair point.
He's not even here to defend himself.
Al, shame on you. He doesn't care.

(54:12):
He wants to hang in, hang out with his boys and watch Monday
Night Football football. Rude.
Hurtful. Yes, Football.
I won't be here next week because I'm going to raw Dick
head. This fucking guy wants to watch
wrestling. What the fuck?
Greg Cherry's in the chat. What's up, Greg?
What's up with Gregory? Gregory, Gregory.

(54:32):
They were going full look, man, I just in this day and age like
you can't be doing that shit, man, right?
And nobody wants that. No promoter wants to deal with
that. Now.
What if she's fucking difficult to work with?

(54:54):
Like what if this isn't a one time?
Problem. DNA.
Who cares? Does DNA want that?
Yeah. Definitely test is there.
I feel like TNA for people that WWE released, TNA is kind of
like off the table a lot of the Times Now with the WWE.
'Cause they work together, right?

(55:16):
Yeah, like the Indies and the Jahyra Jackson or whatever that
was really before the before they kind of did their
partnership. Who's Jahira Jackson?
What's the name or something like that?
Save Maid. Save, wait, save maid.

(55:38):
Who? What is this?
I missed the whole fucking part here.
It's got to be because I'm old and I fucking no, it's not
because you're old. You just like what's Maywe
Jackson? What was the name Jakara
Jackson? Jakara, that was it.
Is that Rampage's kid the one that fucked up?
That guy? No, no.

(56:00):
Marky Niles got it. Who's Marisade?
Oh, Scott Jackson, Smooth operator.
I'm sorry, Miss Jackson. So who's Jakara Jackson?
That's the same person. Who is this?
She was on NXT. She got released from IS.
She the one that walked out. No, she she was a real release.

(56:25):
Oh. She's the team.
With flash legend. Wait, who walked out?
Tegan Knox. Yes, yes.
Oh, it's NOx. That's right.
There's no K Yeah, she's not no relation to Mike.
Oh, she's not. She's she's a looker.
Good for her. What does that fucking have to
do? Wait, who's the looker?

(56:45):
Which one? Tegan, Knox, Nixon, Nixon,
Newell. I'm not a wrestler.
I'm going home. I don't think you're, you're her
type, Tony. Her.
Name is. Stephanie, her name is.
Her name is Stephanie Rhiannon Newell.
So there you go. God damn it, this That's her
government name. Government came and took my

(57:07):
baby. And she's not British, she's
Welsh. It's all the fucking saying.
No, it's. Not.
She's Welsh Wells. Gives a shit.
Other countries suck. Oh, and Miranda Alizee walked
out too. Good for her.
That's. Oh my God, Tony.

(57:29):
Is it the same person? No, they're fucking tag team.
What? Brendo just don't do notes
anymore. Just save yourself.
Save yourself. Wait, Brendo does notes.
I gotta write the. Possible way you didn't know
about. This I gotta write the episode's
names on something. Brendo, you ready for me to blow
his mind? I thought Alex, he's worked for

(57:50):
the N.W.A too. No, Probably.
So who's Jakara Jackson? We're going to circle back to
Jakara Jacks. No.
Who is she? She was the real name is Jamara
Garrett. Is she real?
You're looking it up. Why are you asking us then?
Because I don't know who she is.She worked in NXT.
She was part of metaphor. Then she got released and she

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went to, I don't know what metaphor is.
Is that the language they used to reel the planes in at the
airport? Tony.
Tony, you do a rest. Come on.
At least pretend like you know what the fuck off.
I don't know who these Broads are.
These battle axes. You can't.
What? They're walking out.

(58:33):
Apparently they're more hardcorethan you thought they were.
OK, Jakara Jackson is has nothing to do.
She's Mara. Mara Sade.
She has nothing to do with this.So why did you guys mention her?
Because we were. We were saying why people don't
go to the fucking TNA anymore. Is Jakar Jackson in a

(58:56):
relationship currently? There's believe that Jackson is
single. There's hope for you yet, Matt.
Well, Tony, there's no hope for you and Tegan Knox.
You want to know why, Tony? Why is that?
She's gay girlfriend Miranda Alizee.
Maybe they don't like they were being the way they were being

(59:17):
treated. Maybe, hey, W wasn't as
inclusive as they thought it was.
How would you stop? Hey, man, I don't know what goes
on in that locker room. See.
Neither do you by that silence. I don't know what's goes on in
the locker room. But you can't show.
You can't be hired to do a job and then walk out.

(59:39):
Were they in the contract? No.
So they were independent contractors?
Yes. So they didn't have to work
there, they were brought in to work.
I see no harm in this. I mean, they could walk, walk
out, it's on them. They don't have a contract.
But it's not probably not a goodidea.
Tony Connell, forget he even fucking had them there, too.

(01:00:00):
Neither here nor there. It's out in that now.
Everybody knows if you're a Booker, you don't want to be.
You're not going to book these girls.
Oh, stop you. You don't think some independent
guy's going to book them? I'm sure someone will.
But do you really want a headache like that?
Maybe, maybe they saw something they didn't like and they said
fuck this shit. And they just said, yeah,
they've got fucking 3 minutes. I read a great fucking story and

(01:00:22):
I know this is and the compare someone's going to be like, it's
not the fucking same, but it really is.
I'm reading this book. What?
Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah.
Tight and shrinking. It's great.
Book by James Dixon. It's on Amazon.
Covers the fucking steroid trialand how the fucking WWF was
eating shit in 1992. I was making shit on the table.

(01:00:47):
WrestleMania 8, it's going long.All the matches are going long.
It's a fucking slog. Vince has to cut time, so he
goes to Davey Boy Smith, who's up next to wrestle Berserker.
How much time you need? Davey Boy said 10 minutes.
Vince says your match is cut, turns and walks away.
That's it. So no Davey Boy, no Berserker

(01:01:07):
match. Steve Kerr.
Steve Kern hears this 'cause he had a match throwing hard.
He goes to Steve Kern how much time you need?
And Steve Kern says I'll be in and out.
Vince Nazin loves it. Steve Kern goes out to the ring.
He grabs the fucking referee by the arm.
He says when Owen rose, when Owen rolls me up, fast count.

(01:01:30):
The match was less than 90 seconds in, out, fast count,
gone. Steve Kern's like these guys
don't get it. I got a fucking payday.
I didn't have to do any fucking work.
In and out, in and out. Steve Kern is also established
at that point. British Bulldogs established in
fucking 1992. I need 10 minutes, Vince.

(01:01:54):
Vince did still. Yeah, but come on.
I mean, look at the history of look at the history of David
Boyd Smith. He's not known for making the
best decisions ever either. I understand, but you're there
to do a job. No, David Boyd won that match.
They didn't have a match. I've I'm going to drive to North
Arlington, punch you right in the.

(01:02:15):
Fucking. Right in.
He wrestled Berserker for sure he did.
Oh, he didn't? When did he wrestle Berserker?
I remember seeing that match. I don't know.
They didn't have a match at WrestleMania 8, you shithead.
Well good then he fucking talkedhimself out of a payday.
No, he still got paid. That was the silver lining.
Vince paid him in the Berserker.Oh, he fucking walked out.

(01:02:35):
Who gives a shit he didn't? I don't understand the point of
the story yet. The point of the story is you
show up and you do your fucking job.
You're still getting paid for it.
They got there. Tony Khan probably took care of
their flights. They probably, he probably took
care of wherever they were staying.
You show up, you work for three minutes, you're on TV, cock

(01:02:58):
sucker. They did wrestle.
I'm listening to fucking your Duke and Rogue.
I'm like, they just talked aboutthis today.
They didn't wrestle at WrestleMania Eight, stupid.
They sure did. British Bulldog defeated the
Warlord 8 minutes, 15 seconds. That's not WrestleMania Eight
stupid. That's WrestleMania 7.
Why would they book them in a rematch?
Who gives a fuck? They didn't book them in a
rematch. That was they're talking the

(01:03:20):
Warlord or not the same person. What are you talking about?
You said it was Bulldog Warlord,didn't you?
No. Yes you did.
Somebody in the chat backed me up on this.
For God sake people stay and listen to this retardation.

(01:03:41):
It's a lot of ours today. Who is he going to wrestle
WrestleMania 8? North.
Supposed to wrestle the Berserker.
David Boy Smith and the Berserker.
We're going to have a match at WrestleMania 8.
Fine. I got confused.
I'm old. I'm sorry I called you stupid.
No, it's OK. I deserved it.
No, it's. Not.
No. It's OK.
Yeah, you. Can.
You're my friend. I shouldn't be saying those

(01:04:01):
things. No, you can't.
It's all right. I was stupid.
That's like 13 years ago, Matt. And we don't want to go there.
Wow, I am impressed. We don't want that.
We grow here at the Shining Wizards.
Oh, yeah, especially when Kate'son.
Oh, yeah, Come on, dude. You said such a prolific thing.

(01:04:23):
And then right away, whoop. Got too high.
Got to go back down to the gun. I didn't say you.
Oh, sorry. Do you want me to channel my
Enter HK and just talk about Dick and balls for 40 minutes?
That's what the people come herefor.
Well, they don't. Can't wait for.
So who's Shakara Jackson? Why did we bring her up?
I honestly don't know. Like what happened, Brando said.

(01:04:49):
That the idea of the WWE people get released, getting hired by
TNA when you were like TNA will just use them is not something
that's likely to happen now. Because TNA and WWE have a
working relationship. And the Jakara Jackson signing
was before they had that TNA working relationship with the
WWE. But now someone is released from

(01:05:12):
the WWE, the likelihood that they end up in TNA just doesn't
make sense. So it's better to go to AW or
MLW show you're a team player. There's plenty of people that
started a job that, like I said,the the fucking outrunners lost
in a handicap match to Orange Cassidy and now they're like

(01:05:33):
with two of the biggest stars inAW even though they're only on
like collision every once in a. While you know, when they were
as hot as they could be, they should have won the tag titles.
But you. Know completely agree.
I thought they were with with. What's his name?
Now the castle, yeah. Yeah, the castle.
Sure. I know certain things.
Yeah. You know, some things for

(01:05:55):
shizzle. For shizzle.
You know, some things. Is there anything else?
I wanted to. I think I expressed my my
disappointment in AW. Oh, I got to sneeze.
Poor Matt. Fuck you.
Wait, what did? What does he say?
Maybe you travel is an empty Rd.Who?

(01:06:15):
HK Doesn't he say something wisewhen you sneeze?
Is. There so.
Good looking Oh. You're so good looking because
he criticizes you with your mouth open and your eyes closed.
Sound nice? Don't do that.
He's not here to defend himself.Yeah, he'll listen back, though.
I'm sure we'll get a barrage of text messages.

(01:06:36):
Maybe we won't. I don't know why we got these
stupid Halloween things now, because tis the season, but
Halloween was like 10 days ago. Yeah, but like, the Pilgrims had
pumpkins, right? They had.
Gourds. Cornucopia.
Oh, cornucopia. What do you pick?

(01:06:57):
What do you what would you like a cornucopia stuffed with like
just breads and crackers and things or like fruit, like like
fruits, like like apples. And I've never eaten a
cornucopia. No, you don't eat the
cornucopia. The cornucopia is that horn
looking thing where you just kind of stuff.
What do you why are you going tostuff it with good food?
Because then you eat out of the cornucopia.
It's the horn of plenty. So you want to make sure.

(01:07:18):
It's. Plentiful A Charcuterie board a.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's like a like a centerpiece for the
table, you know? Yeah, but what the corner?
I don't want to eat out of something.
The horn, What's it called? You don't eat out of it, but
it's kind of like. I don't want to eat out of
something. It's kind of like, you know, you
go in the kitchen, you have likea bowl of fruit, maybe there's
some bananas, some oranges, someapples in there.
It's that's kind of like what itis.

(01:07:39):
It's on the table. It's like different things to
grab before the fruit, like before the main course comes
out. So you would put stuff in it
that's grabable. Yeah.
You don't go putting mashed potatoes and stuffing in the
corn and fruit. I don't know.
Yeah, that's it. Maybe a couple pieces of bread,
some crackers, maybe a jar of jam next to it.
You know, you spread it on Jar of jam.
Look at this guy. Well, you got to be fancy, man.

(01:08:01):
I mean, you don't think the Pilgrims went all out?
You don't think one of them, oneof them Pilgrim ladies know how
to make a jar of jam? Or, you know, some fresh whipped
butter in that fucking churn, you know?
Dude, I don't have the churn some jam.
Fuck yeah dude, I think the pilgrims had jars.
Oh I mean whatever. Like pots to put things in.
Probably Mason jars. No, they didn't.

(01:08:23):
Mason. I don't think they.
Well, maybe they did. Wait.
All right, now I got to look up when Mason jars were invented.
Apparently, RAW opened with Triple H blowing himself.
What else? The Mason jar was invented in
1858. So while they weren't there for
the pilgrims, they've been around a long fucking time.
All right, there you go, all. Right.

(01:08:44):
Blood and Guts this week on AW, I'll TuneIn.
I'll watch it. Flair and Steamboat are going to
be there. That's random.
They announced that they're excited for it.
I don't know. Oh my God, Flair's going to take
some Steamboat chops and have a fucking coronary.
You think so? They're going to talk them into
it. We got, I want to talk some.

(01:09:08):
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back from a break. I got a game for these guys and
we got homework. So we're rocking and rolling
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the second-half of the show withyour Yeah, yeah.
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(01:12:10):
entertainment here I'm. Back, back.
Let me ask you guys a question. During Kate's corner, right?
My wife came in the room, she said going to go to the store to
get some crunchy snacks. What kind of snacks do you want?
And I gave her two snacks. But let me ask you guys right

(01:12:31):
now, if your wife was like, hey guys, going to go down to the
store and get some crunchy snacks.
What are the two crunchy snacks you want?
Oh, I thought we were going to guess what you wanted.
I'll tell you what I mean. We can guess that too.
But what are you like? Crunchy snacks?
Crunchy snacks? Do Oreos count as crunchy
snacks? Because you do.
Crunch and Oreo snacks or snacks, right?

(01:12:51):
Yeah. Oh are we talking snacks in
general or crunchy snacks? We call them crunchy snacks but
I get it. Like that's the weird vocabulary
between me and my wife. I if I'm doing crunchy I'm
getting a bag of chex mix that has M&M's in it and maybe
triscuits or cheez. Its depending on if I'm in the

(01:13:13):
mood for cheese or fiber. All right.
I'm going to go either or definitely Oreos, either double
stuff or or one of the flavors like caramel.
They have like a caramel apple one or something like that.
Now that's fucking amazing. Or combos.

(01:13:36):
Cheddar cheese combo is good stuff.
I like the pizza combos myself, but cheddar cheese I would not.
I would not turn the pizza cheddar cheese ones down.
They used to have honey mustard combos that were unbelievable.
I remember those, they were fucking amazing.
They got disco. You got the here's my oh wait,
wait. You know what else is good?
There's a new Doritos in a gold bag.

(01:13:56):
I forget what it's like. Golden Srirachas.
I think those those are really good too.
I forgot about those. See, now I have been.
Here's my one complaint about combos.
And I love combos. I'll eat a fucking bag of combos
on my ride home from the Wawa. I'll stop at the Wawa by the
where he parked the pizza truck and then I'll eat a bag of
combos on my 20 minute drive home.
Easy. They don't have enough of the

(01:14:18):
small packs though. Like, give me, what are they
like? They're like big bags at the
Wawa. They don't like the small that,
that stick on the pin, right? Like they're all on that one
pin. Yeah, Yeah, those are big.
They got all these other crazy flavors.
But if I buy a whole bag of combos and I don't like it, I'll
throw the bag out. I'm not eating it.
Yeah. But the problem is if you like
the combos, you will, you will finish that bag.

(01:14:40):
And that's always a bad idea. I I've been there.
I've I, I still wind up doing dumb shit like that too, you
know? But it is what it is.
You get that big bag and you just can't help yourself.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I went.
You wanna guess where I went Cheez?
Its no I but I dude, I love me some cheeses but I feel like
that's my go to. Every time chips.

(01:15:02):
My wife got herself some chips. OK.
Garden. I think she got the garden
salsa. Bag the red.
Oh, those are good. Yeah, yeah.
So what'd you go with? I went with crunchy Cheetos.
Not a fan. I like, I like.
I like a good cheese doodle. I don't even like the puffy

(01:15:23):
Cheetos I like. I like a cheese doodle instead.
That's the same thing. Crunchy Cheetos as a cheese
doodle. Nah, they hit differently.
The yeah, they do hit, kind of. It it's like more airy Cheetos
are definite more volume and crunch.
I could probably tell the difference between Cheetos,
cheese cheese doodoodles and theUtz variety too.

(01:15:49):
I could probably tell the difference between all three.
Snack professional here. I'm not saying I'm a
professional, but I I could always tell like the, the, the
good fucking, the, the, the Cheetos from the, from the good
shit. I mean, you know, not that
Cheetos is bad, but then I want cool ranch, cool ranch Doritos.
That's a that's a good, that's agood one.

(01:16:10):
We had somebody in the we had somebody in the chat earlier
that would go with Cheez its. Look again, I go cheez its all
the time. I love cheez its love cheez its.
But that's the thing I go cheez its all the time.
I had to switch it up. My wife went Cheetos puffs and
the Sun Chips and then she got us some Reese's peanut butter
filled pretzel bites. Oh, good stuff.

(01:16:35):
We'll check. I'll check those out.
Those are new. Yeah.
I like snacks, man. My wife bought peanut butter and
Jelly M&M's not too long ago. I've had them they're.
They're not a fan. Not a fan.
I'd rather go. I'd rather go straight up just
peanuts. I like.
I like the classic M&M's. They have peanut butter and

(01:16:55):
Jelly Reese's too. Those actually were a lot better
than the the M&M's. I like a good Twix bar.
Yes. Twix bars are good, Snickers
bars are good. I even like a Milky Way.
Just like a Milky Way or even like a Three Musketeer where
it's just fluffy. Reese's Sticks Reese's sticks
are. Reese's sticks are good.
I like, what's the one that theystick the pretzel in?

(01:17:20):
Take five. Yeah, Take 5.
Take 5's. A fucking class act Snack, bro.
That's good shit. Love it.
I love it. That was our snacks portion.
Brought to you by some snacks. Jump on board.
Come on. Come on, Snack company.
Reach out to us. I'll eat snacks all day on this
fucking show. I love a good snack.

(01:17:42):
So we, I kind of, we kind of poopooed on AW the first half of
the show. I'm not going to lie, I got a
poo poo on WWE too. Oh, what's going on there?
What's what's sticking in your craw?
Right? Raw last week, right?
We ended with the John Cena, notJohn Cena.
God damn it, Logan Paul, he'll turn on CM Punk, Say, Morgan.

(01:18:04):
Paul's always been a heal, though.
No. Yeah, but he helped him.
He was there to help him, Right.But it's the same fucking thing
they just did with Jade Cargill and Tiffany Stratton 2 weeks
ago. The same raise the hand, I'm
going to walk away nonsense. But that's, that's a wrestling
trope. Yeah, but they fucking they're,
they're nobody. It feels like it.

(01:18:26):
And this is a both companies thing.
And I said it when Kate was here, and I'll say it again.
They're just fuck, people are just lazy.
Do you think they rushed? Do you think they rushed Jade
because of the Tiffy thing? Maybe that had something to do
with it. No, no, I just think like the
way they could have done the Tiffy thing with her was like,
Tiffy beat her at SummerSlam, right?

(01:18:48):
She came back, she got hurt. You know, she fucking busted
herself up in the three-way instead of having her come out
and save it and then the swerve,bro.
Like, why not just have her fucking cut a promo?
Like, you guys were here for me when I showed up.
I lost, I got hurt. Nobody cares.

(01:19:10):
Nobody cares now. Nobody's asking about where Jay
Cargill. Everybody wants Tiffy time.
Yeah, well, I'm not here for youanymore.
I'm here for me. And I'm coming after that title
And Tiffany, instead of, like, making the save, raising the
hand, like they're just, you know, in another three weeks,
we're going to get another person that does that.
Like they're just not getting creative.
Somebody somebody in the chat who's out for herself.

(01:19:33):
Molly joining us. Twix is far superior and take 5
a second. That's great.
I. Love it.
She don't give a fuck. She don't give a fuck about
football tonight. She's.
Joining the Wizards. Him and his fucking weird
fucking friends down there, probably touching each other's
Dicks. You.
You think they're all barefoot down there?
Yes, 100%. It's a fucking Hobbit

(01:19:54):
convention. How tall is Jabo, if you don't
mind me asking? I don't know.
He's not much taller than Handsome Kevin.
So he's like a shorter fellow too.
Steek is a big. He's the taller dude.
Steek's like your height, probably.
Sure. I don't know.
I didn't take out a fucking measuring stick.
Yeah, but when you're standing next to people talking, you can

(01:20:14):
get an idea. Generally I was fucking like 4
margaritas deep and on an empty stomach because somebody doesn't
eat ever. He was in the yard.
He eats a fucking handful of grass and then goes about his
fucking day while he's walking, dragging his nuts on this
fucking carpet for 8 miles. Jabel's 511, by the way.

(01:20:35):
Good. Yeah.
Where's my. I sent my notes to you guys
earlier. So I just.
Oh, you sent notes to Jesus Christ.
I sent that. Dude it's not even funny anymore
I think. I got nothing to do all day but
read like what the. So 5 minutes on the shitter you

(01:20:55):
can you could easily get through.
Yeah, really dude, instead of sending us fucking dumb AI
videos all day. I love those AI videos.
I fucking hate them. He sends them.
They don't make any sense to me,so fuck.
He made a weird video. Some black guy at a restaurant,
he ordered ratatouille. They brought him fried chicken.
I don't get it. I don't get it.

(01:21:18):
Another one where like double TSnot not going to watch me stuff
my wife or something like come on, man, or either you wouldn't,
but you wouldn't. You ever read the notes?
We do a wrestling podcast. It was truthful.
Here's another. Here's my hot take too.
Logan Paul should be WWE champion.

(01:21:42):
You think so? Sure.
He's going to be probably eventually, but.
Look, people hate him, right? So you're so instantly you have
you can set up a feud with anybody, right?
The baby faces hate him. The heels hate him.
Dude. It's fucking super athletic,
dude. Get he took a, he got thrown

(01:22:06):
into the LED board on Monday night and it's just like little
shit like the whole time, like shit's going on afterwards, like
he's like rubbing the back of his head.
He's like, he's just like selling it.
Like, and all these other guys just rush through everything.
Nobody sells anything. Like he just gets it.
He's not one of these fucking nil kids.
He's not put through the PC where he has to learn the WWE

(01:22:28):
way. Like he gets it.
I think top, you know, top one of the top 2 heels in wrestling
right now. Put the fucking title on him.
Nope, change things up. The vision sucks.
Braun Breaker and fucking Bronson Reed don't need to be
with each other. Strap a Braun Breaker, let's

(01:22:50):
fucking shake things up here. You just like, like the minute
somebody gets hot, you just wantto throw belts at them.
Dude. We, we're, we're, we're doing
the same shit here. The WrestleMania fucking 4243
posters got all the same characters on it part time.
Brock Lesnar, who we haven't seen since he squashed John
Cena, but he's going to be a main focal point of

(01:23:12):
WrestleMania. Roman Reigns, CM Punk, Triple H
is on the fucking poster for what?
To blow himself. Yeah, Triple H is the fucking
king of kings, bro. What happened?
He's the king of kings, No, maybe Triple H is one of the
mystery people in this John Cenatournament.
This tournament. The what they left us with
tonight does not leave much the imagination either.

(01:23:34):
Do we have a bracket somewhere? Like do we like announcing like
2 matches every week? So the men's tonight.
So they we don't even know like who's like.
Four matches so far. Seven guys.
Cuz one's a mystery. Yeah, I don't.
I don't like this shit at all. I agree.
I fucking hate this. Tonight is Sheamus against

(01:23:55):
Shinsuke and Damien Priest against Rusev, and on smack down
it is LA Knight against the Mystery opponent and the Miz
against Jay USO. I heard scuttlebutt that maybe
Nick Aldous is throwing his namein this thing.
What does this make? Why?
I don't know. Whatever happened to the Nick
Aldous, Adam Pierce thing? Are we ever going to get that?

(01:24:15):
Remember, they were butt hits. They were butt buddies now
again. Oh.
Working together blah blah blah.Butt buddies, you say?
Butt buddies, I do say. Rey Mysterio came back and the
fucking building booed him because he's not the fucking,
he's not the best Mysterio. And they love Dom.
Dom's awesome. Fucking Dom is the best.

(01:24:38):
He fucking did so much with withlike he's only been doing this
what, like 3-4 years now? Has he even been in WWE that
long? Like wrestling like.
I think about 5. Has it really been that long?
I'm going to look up his cage match right now.
I'll tell you when he when he debuted.
Because he was around when Lesnar, he had a Lesnar had a

(01:25:00):
quick program with Ray and he was around then.
Oh, that's right. Yeah, when fucking when.
Remember when Brock Lesnar fucking beat up the the the big
black dude with the braids on commentary and then Ray came out
and hit him with the bat? Yes, you.
You remember this right when they had the fucking commentary
table at the top of the ramp? Oh yeah.

(01:25:21):
I forget the dude's name but like he came out like.
Oh, that's a guy that's with Mansor now, I think.
Oh, that's what's his nuts. Yeah, Madam, it or something
like. That he used to be the.
Football player, right? Yeah.
Not Tabacado, No, right now, No,not fucking Johnny Nitro.

(01:25:43):
God damn, it is the Mace Don versus Cena tonight.
Lee's is chiming in. Yeah.
That he's going to be Brendan Williams is his name, and he was
Marcellus. Marcellus Black DO Madden.

(01:26:03):
That's who he was, right? His name was Marcellus Black.
Yeah. Was that like Marcellus Wallace?
Like, what were they going? Marcellus Black and Booker T's
reality of wrestling in 2016. Yeah, man.
Dom's first match was at the 2020 SummerSlam, so he's just
just over five years in. It's crazy.

(01:26:28):
It's nuts. People love him.
Ray brought up Eddie and he's like, keep your father's name
out of my mouth. Holy shit.
He's fucking great, man. And you know what else?
Like, like he, like he needs to break away from the judgement
day. Like don't, don't, let's not do.
Because they're heels. They should need to be in A tag

(01:26:48):
team. Like just leave them.
Like leave him. Leave Logan Paul.
Let them be heels. Yeah, but he needs somebody in
his corner, though. I think he's got the girls.
The girl stuff is great. That's what I mean.
He's got stuff. Is great.
Fuck yeah, dude. And I think they're they're kind
of they're waiting for Liv Morgan to return for that one,

(01:27:09):
too. Yeah, and that's fine.
That's fine. I'm OK with that.
We got a new US champ, Chelsea Green beat Julia.
Oh my God. And the fucking marks are losing
their goddamn minds. Yep.
I mean, I said it chatting with my good friend Phil Reya on the
Facebook after it happened. They brought in Great Sasuke,

(01:27:33):
they got gold with Takamichinoku, kind of sometimes
happens. It is what it is.
And she's she's super hot with the stuff she's doing with Ethan
Page. And they're going down to AAA
and they're winning mixed tag titles.
Like look guys, it's WDE and WWEstands for fucking
entertainment. Julia's a wrestler.
You knew that when she signed up, right?

(01:27:56):
But I think she should have walked.
I think she should have walked out.
She did the job in less than twominutes.
No, but Chelsea Green is a has acharacter, Chelsea.
She's fan fucking tastic. It'd be stupid for them not to
put the belt on her. So you got two, you got the US
champ, the North American champ,the mixed tag champs, and
they're fucking Canadian. Yeah, there's no like everybody

(01:28:21):
to like, let's not take this seriously.
People like, that's the thing. They're the fucking AAA mixed
tag champions, like Tony just said, US champion, North
American champion, and they're Canadians.
They're sticking it in your face.
That's what heels are supposed to do.
This is not fucking PWG. This is not fucking Pro

(01:28:42):
Wrestling Noah. We're not working.
We're looking for fucking Dave Meltzer's work rate right there.
I cancelled my subscription to the Observer too.
Why'd you do that? Because that he is so not
fucking he is he? He works for AW.
Welcome to 2025, asshole. It could not, could not be more

(01:29:03):
fucking obvious. Sorry, I didn't.
I didn't want to call you asshole, but no, it's OK.
We we're having a good time tonight.
Me and you. I love.
Endearing asshole. I love you too, double TI Love
you Brundo. I just I.
It's not worth the $15.00 a month for him to 15 bucks.
Little man in my hand. I'm convinced he just says shit

(01:29:24):
and then apparently like a week or two ago he was doing.
He does like live podcasts. I guess it's part of some.
He took a phone call from Tony Khan in the middle of the
podcast, like not on air. Like he's like, oh, Tony Khan's
calling me. I need to answer that.
Like why he says he says that because he wants people to know

(01:29:46):
that he's working for Tony Khan.But then you're not giving your
unbiased opinion. You're clearly like he was like
going after Rusev like a couple weeks ago.
Like Rusev has lost more matchesin the WWE than he ever did in
in AW. What do?
You lose like 2. No, I think he's been on quite

(01:30:07):
the losing streak. Well, he lost.
He lost at the pay-per-view in the three-way.
He lost to Sheamus I. Think he lost on RAW.
I mean, I don't. Give a shit, I don't care.
Yeah, but I think the Dom thing is leading somewhere.
Of course. I mean look, Rusev left WWE
where he was like the Bulgarian Brute and do you remember what

(01:30:30):
he showed up in fucking AEW as? Kip Sabian's best friend.
Yeah, the arcade guy. Remember they were smashing
arcade machines at ringside. Billy Mitchell, I love that
match. Can you blame the fucking guy
for not wanting to work there? I mean, at least he's involved
in major storylines. And like, look, say what you
want about Drew McIntyre losing all the time, Like, I don't

(01:30:51):
think it affects him at all. Like I said it last week, he's
on that level, like a Randy Orton where he could take the
loss and that's it. It, it's not going to hurt him.
You know what else is on that level?
Mark Briscoe. And I thought it was going to
hurt him. People still fucking love the
guy. They want to see him win.
But when he loses, it's like, nobig deal.
Yeah. I, I don't understand the they

(01:31:12):
suspended Drew McIntyre. What's the story is now?
Is that a thing like Drew McIntyre, Nick Aldis?
Because Cody seems like he's moved on to Alistair Black.
Well, I mean, that was ATV thing, but I don't think he's
going to be wrestling him on a pay-per-view or anything.
I think he is. Are you serious?
They're going to strap up the Fiend.
The Fiend they're going to strap.
Up. I don't think you strap him up.

(01:31:34):
He's the hardest thing right now.
Who you making fun of? Me.
No, Alistair Black. I don't give whatever, whatever.
Dick when Survivor Series the. 29th no.

(01:31:55):
Saturday the 29th after Thanksgiving, huh?
Yes, yes. Would you guys be against them
bringing it back to make it likea Thanksgiving tradition again?
I would. I would love it.
I'd love 5 on fives again, man. Like just make the whole show 5
on fives. Yeah, we don't really.
What are the? Sorry, but no go.
Ahead it's always war games now Survivor Series 90s like my all

(01:32:17):
time favorite show. Are they doing war games again
this year? I guess they do it every year,
right? So who they it's?
Called War Games. Who I don't know.
They're we're we're like 2 weeks, 3 weeks away.
We're we're three weeks away. That's and less than three weeks
away. We got this John Cena last time

(01:32:37):
tournament that's ruling Raw andSmack down.
I hate, I hate that so much. Yeah, I don't know.
I really they should had a 10 man battle royal to decide who
was going to wrestle John Cena in his final match.
I do expect something big at theGarden on next Monday.

(01:32:58):
Well, 'cause you're going to be there.
Also, it's his last time. If if I was very much on the
fence about. Going to Monday Night Raw.
You got to go, dude. But it's just last time.
I I'm not a huge John Cena fan, but still, it's going to be it's
going to be a moment, yes. You're going to get to see him
cut a promo one last time for the fans in the garden and I

(01:33:20):
assume he's going to wrestle. I hope he's going to wrestle.
It's got to be an open challenge.
Right. You want some?
Come get some. I don't know.
I hope so. Hope so.
I mean, the way I don't see how he walks out of Boston tonight.
Not being the IC champion. No, they're going to be.
There's going to be some shenanigans.
Is it for the title? Yes, it's happening right now.
For the title right now. You know what?

(01:33:43):
Then things are in motion, right?
What's the talk? The talk was Gunther against
fucking Cena in the final match for the IC title.
Gunther comes back, beats Cena, re establishes himself as a
champion. I thought that was a scuttlebutt
a couple weeks ago. Yeah.
Yeah. So things are in motion, people.
Next week, Matt's going to get afucking open challenge for the

(01:34:05):
IC title. Why would I get an open
challenge? Because why wouldn't you like
Gunther win the tournament? No, because Cena's going to
defend the title next week. You want some?
Come get some. Why wouldn't Cena defend the
title at the Saturday Night's Main event and have the greatest
Intercontinental champion of alltime beat him then?
Yeah. What's the date on that?
December 13th. I don't know why I leaned in

(01:34:26):
like it was a price check. He's got to do something next
week, though, doesn't he? Yeah.
Yeah, no, he'll be there. So he'll he'll have a fucking
open challenge and somebody willchallenge him and he'll get 5
knuckle Shuffle and send the Garden fans home happy.
Yeah. Who would you like to see
challenge him? Oh, who's on Raw?
Who's on RAW that it would like be kind of cool?

(01:34:49):
Penta. No.
I'm just thinking of guys that like that are hot.
That would be He'd probably havea fun match with him.
Is Joe Hendry in the tournament?I think he's going to be in the
tournament. OK, well, then he's out.
But also, like, LA Knight has this mystery opponent Friday
night. Like, who do we think that's
going to be? Oh, maybe that's John Cena.

(01:35:11):
Maybe he wrestles himself. Can't see them that.
'D be real fucking monkey wrench, huh?
Is there a fucking yes, There's a fucking going on.
There's a whole lot of fucking going on.
Whole lot of *** fucking fuckingthere.

(01:35:35):
So there was that route. I think I brought it up a couple
weeks ago. There was the rumor that the WWE
let the Andrade thing happened so they could be like, hey, you
owe US1. And then, yeah, the scuttlebutt
was maybe Edge. And then a cut like 2 weeks ago

(01:35:55):
they the the WWE vault put up like the history of Edge versus
John Cena. Oh, that's a troll.
That's definitely. Yeah, right.
Do you think it's like a troll? That's a troll.
Somebody in WWE fucking knows that.
Yeah, we got to play off this. I don't know, unless you think
some fucking young stud from my NXT is going to get a shot.

(01:36:16):
Oba Femi maybe he hasn't been around since he lost the title
to Ricky Starks. Make it impact.
I I can, I can see it being Joe Hendry.
And Joe Hendry is just not in the tournament.
Yeah. And like his.
Game. First, yeah, at MSG like the

(01:36:36):
place goes fucking crazy, yeah. Well, no.
The Oh, you mean to fight Cena next week?
Yes. Yes.
Oh OK, I thought you meant stillfor LA Knight.
Dummy. Yeah.
Yeah. And apparently Lash Legend is
on. She's on the main roster now.
She helped NIA Jax win. Look at God, I turned on

(01:37:01):
Smackdown for probably 3 minutesat most.
I got to watch Jade and B Fab yell at each other.
Charlotte's in the ring, here comes NIA Jax.
Oh great. There's a great movie on HBO.
Let me turn the fuck off Smackdown.
I hate NIA Jax more than probably any wrestler, so

(01:37:23):
instant channel change for me. What's wrong, Tony?
You look, no, I'm, I'm looking at, I'm looking at the Raw
roster. I'm trying to get some ideas of
who else. But they said it.
They said it's going to be like Raw, Smackdown, NXT, somebody
who's not signed. No, no, no, I'm talking.
About John Cena next week, right?
Hey, it could be anybody. Could be anybody.

(01:37:44):
Was there anything else that I put in the WWE notes before we
move on to my game? Oh, the Ridge Holland stuff.
Oh yeah. What happened with the Ridge
Meister? So he he got hurt and then while
he was hurt, WWE said they weren't going to renew his
contract. OK, he got hurt.

(01:38:06):
At TNA. Not even at TNA.
And he wasn't getting paid to work at TNA, right?
Is that my understanding? Something like that.
He was getting his WWE. Pay, though, wasn't.
He but he wasn't getting an extra pay.
So what? WWE says, hey, you're going to
work there. What are you going to do, walk
out three minutes? Not for me, brother.

(01:38:28):
But I think the fact that they his his injury is going to be a
really long time and he was counting on the the WWE money to
help him through all that. Like they were paying for his
rehab. But somehow he has five kids,
too. So here's what we got.
Somehow he's got five kids. Well, that means he.

(01:38:49):
Fucked he might. He likes the fuck.
Rich Holland's Nightmare year continued to get slightly worse,
according to a new report from Fightful Select.
The outlet reported Wednesday that WWE has terminated his
contract early due to comments Holland made on social media
considering them a breach. According to the report, despite
being sidelined with a lis lis frank.

(01:39:13):
Lis frank yeah lis frank fracture right injury suffered
in September TNA match. I almost told in October that
his deal would not be renewed. The outlet didn't know when the
effective date of the early termination is, but his contract
was initially reported to be up November 14th.
If it was done Wednesday would have missed, he would have
missed 9 days worth of pay. Holland took to X Tuesday to say

(01:39:35):
he felt hung out to dry by WWE and he never thought he would
but be unable to pay his mortgage.
His quote was I feel like I've been hung out to dry after
getting injured working for another company on behalf of
WWE. Add that to my contract not
being renewed knowing that I wouldn't be able to wrestle for
seven months. This is brutal.
Yes they were taking care of thesurgery and physical therapy,

(01:39:56):
but let's be honest, that's the bare minimum after what we
sacrificed to the company. Plus the possibility of having
to get my neck fused to talk about totally getting fucked.
Biggie says Karma's a bitch, Rich.
Wow, wow, Brundo, did you reallysay that?
No, no. Oh, all that shit that Matt

(01:40:16):
said, Yeah. Yeah, but he didn't say Biggie,
didn't say karma's a bitch. I.
Wish he did. And then I guess somebody in his
camp or his family started a GoFundMe.
Yeah, without his knowledge, apparently.
Yeah. Yeah, so and then he came out
and he said he's going to donateall that money to charity.

(01:40:38):
Yeah, fuck my mortgage. He didn't put because he didn't
put out those tweets to garner sympathy.
He's voicing his frustration. How about you just voice your
frustration to your family and your friends and not do it on
social? Media that's also fair while
you're under contract, whether. It's 5 days.

(01:41:00):
Away or 20 Don't voice your voice it on Twitter.
Like, you know what Twitter's for?
Like Twitter's like, hey Jackass, stay out of the left
lane when I'm trying to get to work.
Like, that's what you bitch about on Twitter.
If it's like, if I'm bitching about like a company firing me,
I do that on Fortnite while we're while we're playing a
game. Yeah, cock suckers fired me

(01:41:21):
today. Fucking whole fucking bunch of
pricks. I wouldn't put that on social
media. We got a spoiler from Dirtbag.
Welcome back to the chat, Dirtbag.
I don't want to say this. Yeah, fuck it, that's not a
spoiler. We kind of knew that was going
to happen. That's the prediction.
Well, there you go. Cena hits the fucking quintuple
apple crown or whatever the fuckyou want.

(01:41:42):
I say Grand Slam champion in hishometown.
Dota. Dota.
Let the boys be boys. Slam.
Dude, you think it's weird that that wasn't the main event that
they used that to open Raw? No Cena's Cena gets the crowd
going man. Wait, open Raw.
It's 8:40. Ross started at 8:00.

(01:42:03):
Dude, Triple H was in the wing sucking himself off for 20
minutes, apparently, Yeah. What'd that look like?
Fuck it, now they can all come and watch us.
Go on, pop with a magic dragon on himself.
So he did it. No, dirtbag.
Don't worry about the spoiler. We we pretty much knew that that
was going to go that way anyway.Yeah.
Also didn't know that. Besides this, this gaggle of

(01:42:24):
Wizards doesn't give a fuck about spoilers, so there you go.
Yeah. Also didn't know we would see
the Twitter comments. I love that.
Love it. Bridge Holland.
No, no. And the chat jerk off.
Oh, you meant our Twitter. Yeah, I like that.
I like that. We can see that now.

(01:42:44):
Yeah, you can't see Facebook anymore.
No, Facebook can eat a shit. That's not nice.
Why? Yeah, I don't fucking know.
You're trying to be nice. How are you?
No, I wasn't. I wasn't.
Dude, what is this dog? Remove it and then re add it.
Fucking shit in your head. What the fuck?
Whatever. We're on Twitter, so we're good
there. Yeah, yeah, I think Watts.

(01:43:07):
Wow. I think that was really all my
complaints about the WWE and stuff.
I think you were. I think you were nicer to WWE
than you were to a EWI think. I think, I think WW ES got some
redeeming values. Let's see.
And everything's hunky Dory. I'm out on Cody too.
Yeah, Cody getting a little longin the tooth.
At this point, it's just boring.Maybe Dom Dom gets trapped up at

(01:43:31):
Mania. Maybe Dom Dom fucking pulls a
fast one and wins the Royal Rumble.
That'd be cool. Maybe Dom Dom says fuck all
y'all to his fucking boys in thein the dark order.
Whatever the fuck his group is there you go.
And he fucks them all over in the fucking in the in the
Elimination chamber. So I've been doing a lot of like

(01:43:56):
scheduling posts. No scheduling posts.
So yesterday was the Montreal screw job and tomorrow Tony.
Here's a little preview, people.Tomorrow, it's five years to the
day. Tony's favorite AW moment, Jade
Cargill showing up and confronting Cody and bringing

(01:44:17):
Shaq to AW. Was that the same day that we
got the promo from from from What's her name?
Brandy, right? From Brandy.
I don't think that was the same day.
I think that came a week later. What a magical time.
I'm telling you, man, I missed that.
AW, I'm with you right 'cause like you think about it.
What was that all? What was the 1st pay-per-view

(01:44:39):
all out? Yeah, 'cause All in all.
In. Whatever, Machu debuted, right?
We shows up at the end of that Kenny Omega Chris Jericho match
and he fucking double armed DDTSKenny and he stands on top of
the poker chips. You were like, OK, this is
different. Then something happened.

(01:45:00):
Something happened, man. He started walking like this.
No, they did the fucking Cody Rhodes, Anthony of Gogo thing.
Woof. Remember that with the fucking
with the weigh in. Woof.
I think the the Cody Rhodes, what's his name?
QT also, that fell off a Cliff. They wanted that to be something

(01:45:22):
it just wasn't. Mike Tyson showing up and
yawning on camera. Greg Valentine showing up and
looking completely disinterested.
I tell you what you're. Going to get with Greg
Valentine. He has one more.
Even the goofy fucking football thing like that shit had me howl
and laughing my ass off. Oh, what the when Sami Guevara's

(01:45:45):
running in a straight line whilethe fucking golf cart's coming
at him? It's like dude.
Fucking just step to the lights.You'll be Stadium Stampede.
Yeah, there. You go.
Stadium Stampede. Yeah, and stupid fucking.
The drunk is having a fucking drink and then the other asshole
comes over and they're like, we're going to have a fight and
OK, let's have a fight. Like what the fuck are we doing?
That shit? I miss man.
AW was so bad. It was so good that that shit

(01:46:07):
entertained the fucking Maki Itosinging while people are
fighting at ringside and fuckingVicki Guerrero is laughing
because fucking what's her name is hitting herself with the
kendo stick. Dude, I will watch that.
If AW was like that now, I'd watch it every week.
I'd watch it ever, you know, didn't like it.
Like the spot, three and three quarter stars.

(01:46:30):
Oh, well, he's a fucking hand job.
He really is. I tell you what.
What's his name is? Always jonesing for work over
there. Dutch Mantel.
I would think Dutch Mantel wouldfucking would be a huge asset
for that company. Dude, that was another.
I went down the Dutch Mantel hole right when he was like,
when he was like sick last DutchMantel hole.

(01:46:53):
Yeah, yeah, right. Meltzer used that opportunity to
shit all over Dutch Mantel. Yeah, I know what is fucking.
Scumbag. What a fucking piece of shit
scumbag. And I tell you what Dutch Man
Tells podcast right now is probably my favorite podcast to
listen to. I just followed it and started
the I guess what, Ask Dutch anything.

(01:47:14):
Yeah, so Wednesdays he does his regular show where they talk
about like the product and tell stories and whatnot.
And then Ask Dutch Anything is on Sundays.
So you get 2 episodes a week from them.
Nice. Yeah, so.
Yeah, He kind of follows the. It's kind of like the cornet
thing where it's like one, Yeah.So it's like 1 and then one's
just questions. I used to love listening to the

(01:47:35):
cornet like ask questions and everything and then just people
started asking about AW all the time and it just it was just the
same shit over and over again. I just on that I just I was
tired of it. I.
Couldn't I just can't, man. Like I'm, I'm, I'm not bringing
up politics, but I am. It's just like I don't give a
fuck. Like he spends 40 minutes

(01:47:56):
shitting on every I'm like, I'm not listening to you for your
opinion on politics. I want to hear the goodness that
you know, from the wrestling business, your fucking decades
of wisdom. Like I don't care.
Like I know other places I can go to if I want to hear people
getting shit on in terms of politics.
And it's just not for me anymore, you know?
And I wanted to listen to Cornett because of his stories
from 30 years ago, not. Yeah, I.

(01:48:18):
Don't want to hear him talk about this?
Today's wrestling. No, I don't mind the today's
wrestling because even though heshits on it, like he'll have
ideas, like how they could have done things to kind of salvage
stuff, but because like I do want to learn like how the smart
minds think in wrestling. You know what I'm saying?
Like there's always an educationto be had.
Even when he was shitting on stuff.
I just, I just had enough of thepolitics shit, dude, I'm like,

(01:48:41):
it's a it's a fucking 3 hour episode and 1st fucking 4045
minutes. It's nothing but shitting on
politics. It's like I don't, I don't
fucking care. I just, no, that's why I like
Dutch Mantel. Even when Dutch has shit where
it comes up, he'll fucking say it.
He'll be like, yeah, Cornett is too much into the politics.
He's like, never let anybody know your business when it comes
to politics. He's like, you'll find out real

(01:49:03):
quick who likes you and who doesn't like you because of
that. Just fucking talk about what you
want to talk about and that's it.
That's it. And that's all he does.
And he shows a pleasure to listen to and he's fucking smart
as hell. Yeah.
I mean, I, I, so I, I got, I don't know why I was, what the
fuck was I doing yesterday? I think I was waiting to go out
on the truck and I was doom scrolling through Instagram and

(01:49:27):
a Dutch Mantel clip came up and and a Stevie Richards clip came
up. And I want to check out his
podcast too, where he was talking about his time in Ring
of Honor and where, like, he didlike a loop of the Midwest.
And he was in the car with Delirious and somebody else.
And he had mentioned, like, ideas.
Yeah, you told me about this, right?
I think I did. Yeah.
He had mentioned like a couple ideas that like maybe he want to

(01:49:48):
do. And then he was never booked in
Ring of Honor again because delirious, like was afraid of
his, was afraid of somebody taking his spot.
Like, that's fucking just wild. So I think I want to check out
the Stevie Richard Fodka. Yes, too.
Yeah. James hosts that with him too.
The same guy, the same British guy.

(01:50:08):
Oh, cool. All right.
I like that. I'm going to check that out,
too. Before we get into.
I got to want to play a quick game with you guys.
But before we do, we found out who Tanahashi's last opponent is
going to be a Wrestle Kingdom. And I and I dig this.
I love it. I like this a lot.
I definitely am going to resubscribe to New Japan World
for Wrestle Kingdom. And if I can work it out with my

(01:50:29):
schedule, I'll do the. I'll watch it live and do the
live tweeting. It's going to be a bottle.
Yeah. Yeah, Okada.
Yeah, yeah. So that's fucking great.
Okada showed up at some New Japan house show where Tanahashi
had just beaten one of the newerNew Japan characters who I'm not
entirely familiar with. Did he beat some or didn't he

(01:50:51):
lose to Yoda Suji? Well, this was so they did a
show at. Yeah, it doesn't matter though.
Like he has Yoda ice. I don't know who.
Yoda. Ice.
Oh, you're right. He's one of the new Bullet Club
guys. He's tag.

(01:51:12):
He's 1/2 of the tag champs. Yeah, Tanahashi has to win the
match where Okada is going to appear afterwards, otherwise
then what the fuck is he wrestling Okada for, You know
what I'm saying? Like he's got to win that and
then Okada comes out. Did he tell me he called him a
bitch? Did he call him a bitch?
No, but he did say that. AW, Okada is showing up, not New

(01:51:33):
Japan Okada. Oh, so he's going to slow it
down a little bit. I mean, look, Tana Hasho can't
do what he used to do. Like that's abundantly clear.
Oh yeah. I'd be surprised if this thing
goes more than 12 to 15 minutes.I'd be very surprised.
They're going to go slow. They're going to draw it out.
He's going to do his guitar thing.
You. Know, Okada said, too.

(01:51:54):
Like he's not coming to be not main event as well.
Do you think they main event thefucking?
Do you think they meant they main event Wrestle Kingdom with
that? Yes, because it's the only thing
that's moving tickets. Well, as as much as I think to
Keshta and and Yoda, Suji's going to be a fucking banger of
a match. This is what is selling tickets.

(01:52:18):
Tanahashi's last match at Wrestle Kingdom, 100%.
Good for him, man, Good for him.They've gotten going out on top,
man. I love it.
I think they said they've gottenlike 31,000 tickets sold already
so. Yeah, any time tickets are new.
Japan's been lacking the past couple years, right?
Oh yeah, since they they got killed with the pandemic and

(01:52:38):
they just never, never. Came some of those shows were
like woof when one. AAW had that.
Women's when one AAW had that women's tournament in Japan
where the referee was all fucking bundled up with a mask
and shit and Aaja Kong wrestled,she couldn't even fucking get in
the ring. Yeah, yeah, look, it's fair.
And then like all the guys left,right, yeah, right.

(01:53:01):
O'Connell left like. Jeff Cobb.
You think this means a lot of the AW guys are going to show up
on the show? Like you think we're going to
get the Bucks and Omega doing something man.
I. I I.
Think, I think I think. Kenny Omega's time is very
limited, but you don't think he's going to show up and want
to be on this big show? Whoa, He's at Wrestle Kingdom

(01:53:23):
last year. Last year, yeah, last year he
faced Gabe Kat. Yeah.
But what I'm saying is like, considering OKAT is AEW at this
point, you would think that theygot to bring some guys in,
right? Drum up some more interest,
maybe you get more Americanized on the show.
You know what I'm saying? Bring back some of that
audience. I mean, they had the the AW show
with New Japan last year. I don't know.

(01:53:45):
I don't think they're going to do it again this year.
Yeah, but the point is like Tanahashi, Okada's on top.
Yeah. Okada's an AEW guy, you know?
But the but the the New Japan boom is because of Okada and
Tanahashi, right? So like, oh, I get it, but you
don't think the Young Bucks are going to be like, hey, put us on
too? They need money bro.

(01:54:08):
We'll see if they win this weekend.
Yeah, you don't know bro. 20 million fucking yen tag match
for the IWG. P Hold on.
I don't think that's even that much.
I also don't. I think New Japan didn't gain
anything from the last time theyworked with AW like.
Like. They need these they need these

(01:54:31):
foreign names to come in and stay and and work there, right?
Like, and they really like desperately they're they're
putting a lot of eggs in this Aaron Wolf kids basket.
He's like a an Olympic gold. You know, he won medal in the
Olympics. Like he's wrestling evil.
He's debuting at Wrestle Kingdomand he's wrestling evil for the
never open weight championship. He's like a renowned athlete in

(01:54:56):
Japan, so they're putting a lot of eggs in that basket.
Like the House of Torture stuff is bad.
It's always bad. It's always fucking how I think
they won like the Tag League. The junior tag league, Yeah, or
Doki, The Joe in there. Yeah, Show and Doki, and they're
the tag champions. The junior they won.
And it was like all the same, Like it's the same house.

(01:55:18):
It's been years they've been doing the same House of Torture
bullshit. Yep.
So I, I don't know, I, I really don't know.
They got a women's match on the card already announced it's at
Saya Kamatani against Siri winner takes all for the New
Japan Strong women's title and the IWGP title.

(01:55:38):
I thought that was his name. Title.
It'll be interesting though. Russell Kingdom, January 4th.
What night of the week is that? Oh, that's a Sunday night.
Oh, that works out for you. It's a Saturday night.
Oh, it is. All right, so this will be the
night before. Ah, we'll figure it out, Yeah.

(01:55:58):
We'll figure it out. Do you guys want to play?
So we're doing, we're trying to bring back games, right?
We're trying to have a little fun.
So Tony gave us a great game last week that we need, we're
going to do. And then I stole this game from
the Major League Baseball Network.
Whatever show they do in the morning, it's kind of like guess
who, right? So I would give you guys a

(01:56:22):
couple clues and you have to guess who it is now.
I only give you 4 clues. Oh.
All right. Right.
But as I guess the the first clue is clearly the hardest and
as we get down the line the clues would get easier.
Now we could do it as individualor you guys can guess there
really is no, I have three guesswho's.

(01:56:44):
Oh. You want to try them
individually if you want, Yeah, Rhonda, you want to go first.
Yeah, sure. OK.
How about we do one each and then we'll do the second one
together or third one together? Sounds like a date.
OK. Yeah, OK.
All right, were you guys ready and feel free to play along at

(01:57:08):
home, listeners Yes, put all theanswers in the chat.
Don't put. The.
Gas in No, no, no. All right, We're going to start
with this guy. Started my career in
Championship Wrestling from Florida.
Any guesses? I think I know where I go with

(01:57:28):
Steve Kern. Fuck you, Brando.
Yeah, this game. Sucks for.
Real dude. I would have never thought of
that if you didn't bring up Steve Karn earlier.

(01:57:50):
Jesus Christ. You know we did this with one of
Tony's games once too where I guess he had like 8 answer or 8
questions he was going to give. I guess Orange Cassidy had in
the 2nd and. All the people that started
their career in Championship wrestling from Florida, would
you like to hear the other clues?

(01:58:12):
Sure all. Right.
I have won over 30 tag team championships.
That makes sense. And then the next one was Bad
Attitude 'cause that was the shitty tag team he was in WCW in
the early 90s. And then the last was Alligator

(01:58:33):
Hunter. You didn't want to do shit in
Jerry Lawler's crown. No matter how I do, it's going
to be inadequate. Holy shit.
Well, I don't know, Tony. You could fucking throw shit
against the wall and get this one right too.

(01:58:55):
Ready. No, I'm ready, all right.
Made a name for myself in Japan.AJ Styles.
No. The second clue is going to get
it. You're.
I think you're going to get it off the second clue.
JT Smith, Mike. Awesome winner.

(01:59:20):
All right, All right. The other two, I was thinking.
I was thinking before you said that, too.
When I when I said AJ Styles, I was like, yeah, maybe it was
Brody. I don't know.
Maybe it was. What the fuck's his name?
Tiger Jeet Singh. No, Hansen.
I was going to go handsome. OK I will read a clue.
The other two clues were Team Canada and Fat Chick Thriller.

(01:59:43):
Fat chick thriller easily. I kind of like that.
I like. This it's one.
It's a fast. Moving game I like this now this
one might be a little harder. I saved this one for last and
you guys can tag team this because that seems to be a theme
here. With this this character, we
could put our heads together. We could put our heads together
like. Like when they go back to you in

(02:00:03):
Family Feud, like everybody putsin their input and then we just
go with an answer. All right, hey, you can do that.
All right. Started my career in A tag team.
It's got to be like maybe Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Dusty
Rhodes, Dusty Rhodes, I don't know, whatever.
Whatever you want to go with, well, you don't have to get.
I can give you another clue. You don't have to.

(02:00:24):
No, we. We.
Got to guess I mean, what if we get it right?
I I think we I think we hit well, I think we hit it with one
of those three the way he was rushing us along.
You didn't, but OK, I so Shawn Michaels.
No OK, whatever. Don't be mad at me because
you're like that fuck you you got you weren't right anyway.

(02:00:44):
No, but you don't have to guess immediately.
Like you're not going to Brundleeverything.
No, but I feel like I feel like you got to take a shot.
You know, it's it's a waste of time.
That's true. You miss 100% of the shots you
don't take. Michael Scott, former WWF tag
team champion. Start a careers.

(02:01:10):
Tag team wrestler. Former WWF Tag team champion.
Ogo Adonis. That's not correct, Sir.
Yeah. Do you want to take a guess,
Tony? You can each guess.

(02:01:30):
Former WWF tag team champion, started as A tag team wrestler.
Tito Santana. That's a good guess.
But no, this, let's see if this,let's see if this clue sheds any
light on anything for you guys. At one point I portrayed the
Black Scorpion. Former WWF tag team champion?

(02:01:59):
Yes, Sir. I mean, Arne Anderson would be
obvious, right? Are you talking to me or Brenda?
I'm talking to Brenda, but I'm going to go on Anderson.
Go for it. Incorrect.

(02:02:21):
Wow. Who would have been the Black
Scorpion? The only other person was Ollie,
but I think only Ollie only did the voice.
Al Perez wasn't A tag team champion, Yeah.
Maybe Tully Blanchard, but couldn't have been a Steiner,

(02:02:46):
couldn't have been an LOD, couldn't Mike Rotundo?
I like this. I like this a lot.
This is a good one. This is a hard one.
Dino Bravo. No.

(02:03:06):
Was Dino Bravo tag champ? Maybe.
Yeah, he was in. I think he was earlier, like
WWF. Maybe I'll go.
I'll throw out Dino Bravo. No, I'm sorry.
Sorry. It's not Dino Bravo, your last
clue. Former member of Demolition.

(02:03:32):
Oh. It's got to be dorsal, right?
It's got to be very dorsal. It it wouldn't have been fucking
the mass superstar, right? Like he was Billy.
He was eating. Yeah.
I don't if it was me, I'm going with I'm going with what's the
name of Barry Dorso? But it could very well be Billy.

(02:03:53):
Edy definitely wasn't Crush I'll.
Go dash if you're going smash. Yeah, So who got it?
Neither of you did. You're both wrong.
Was it Demolition Blast? It was crush.
It was Randy Culley. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

(02:04:14):
wait. Did he win the tag?
Champion was oh, the Moon Dogs. Oh motherfuck.
Oh, that's. Good.
God damn that was that was a good They put him in the Black
Scorpion outfit for house shows against Sting and then and then
they used the same excuse they used when they kicked him out of

(02:04:35):
demolition. Too many people knew that it was
Randy Cooley as the Black Scorpion.
How do they know? Is he bringing a bone to the
ring and wearing fucking jorts? No, no, it's just fucking.
It's the Jim Hurt Air of WCWNWA.Oh, so no black people?

(02:04:56):
Police scorpions. Also in my well played Brundo,
my God. Yeah.
Moon Dog, Rex, Randy Collie, he was the tag team champ.
He was in A tag team when he started, called the Daltons in
the 70s, won gold as the Moon Dogs in the WWF in the early

(02:05:20):
80s. And then he was the Black
Scorpion and also was the original Smash and Demolition.
Yeah, he was. That was fun, No?
That was very fun. I like that bringing it back.
Woof. What are you?
What are you? Why are we woofing?
I didn't know. What?

(02:05:40):
Jesse. Yeah.
What? The fuck Yeah.
I enjoyed it. I liked it a lot.
Rondo, fucking idiot savant aside.
Yeah, in in my research for thisI found out another thing.
Now I don't know how much you guys were into 1990 NWAWCW, but
do you know who Allen Iron Eaglewas or is?

(02:06:05):
Isn't he, wasn't he a an announcer or no, I'm thinking.
About who he was like who's whatis he known to he is like he in
1990 he's Allen Iron Eagle. But later on he shows up on the
wrestling scene again. How much later and where WCW and

(02:06:30):
90 Let's see he's in WCW in 1991and he comes back in 1996.
He broke they like featured him a lot in like 1990 on like TV
Charlie Norris it's. A great guess, but.
I mean, it's the only guess. No it's not Alan.

(02:06:52):
Iron Eagle is fucking Joe Gomez.Oh, I swear I've heard that
once. I didn't know that at all.
Harper was GJ Strongbow, so there you go.
You mean he wasn't an Indian? Fucking Alan.

(02:07:13):
Iron Eagle. Joe Gomez.
What a job. Unbelievable.
Let's let's now handsome Kevin'snot here, too busy watching
this, well, football. But he did assign his homework
last week and he took us back toWCW Pro November 18th, 1995 for

(02:07:36):
the battle royal Jesus Christ. And they didn't really explain
what the battle royal was for. I don't think it was for
anything. It was leading up to World War
3, so I think it was. Let's throw a couple of jobbers
in there and show them what a battle royal is, in case they

(02:07:58):
forgot. A couple of jobbers, Brendo.
I mean there were only 10. People 10, a couple of 10
jobbers. No, come on.
We had we had some tamper in there.
Really. Cobra was in there.
Dave Sullivan. Nasty Ned, dude.
Nasty Ned fucking rules. He was Dusty's favorite.

(02:08:21):
Yeah. Dusty was cream of his pants
overnight. Ozly, go nest, Ned.
Nest Ned gonna win this thing. I could not believe this was a
thing. This was wild.
I mean, this was an easy watch. Sure was nasty little Bravey.

(02:08:43):
I mean, is nasty Net still alive?
I don't see anything about his passing, so I'm going to say
yes. I love it.
And Cobra. Dave Sullivan, Fidel Sierra,
Frankie Lancaster, Lieutenant James Earl Wright, Mark Starr,
Nasty Ned, Ricky Santana and come on, Jobber Sergeant Buddy

(02:09:06):
Lee Parker, 1995. Yeah, this is the build up to
World War Three, which somebody on commentary reminded me had
three commentary teams for the. Show Oh God and.

(02:09:26):
I think fucking angrily Marshallwas was part of one of those
teams. You wonder why people don't
remember World War 3 fondly. I watched this after I had my
hernia surgery last year. World War Three or this?
Yes, no. World War Three and somebody
beat up fucking Larry's Abisco or Larry's Abisco beat somebody

(02:09:47):
up at the announcer table. I hope somebody beats up with a
Bisco. I don't know, but when when Dave
Sullivan got eliminated and Larry's like, oh, the Dave
Sullivan got eliminated, Yeah. Yeah.
I got to look this up. That's the usual Larry

(02:10:08):
commentary. I'd say this if HK was here too,
but it's the usual. Well I would have done this.
I did this in battle Royals. Nobody fucking cares.
It has been. I thought it brought a lot of
insight to this fucking amazing match.
I love this. I love the shit out of this
fucking disco inferno. Going a mug to the camera in the
corner and almost getting fucking run over.

(02:10:29):
I left my balls off. In the beginning, every time he
would start dancing, they'd movethe camera.
I noticed too. Yeah, and, and like he just
stood out of the way and just danced by himself.
It was great. He deserved to win that.
He played it smart. Oh, that finish sucked.
Though this fucking this match only this.
Battle Royal only went 5 minutestoo.

(02:10:49):
It was perfect. Oh, I gotta, I'm trying to find
'cause I feel like this is wherelike, they got like knocked into
like the one of the three, like,commentator tables and the guys
kept fighting and like Lee Marshall's trying to get like
Sabisco to protect them. Barking up the wrong tree there,

(02:11:10):
Tony the Tiger. They're great.
Sorry I'm I have to read so to discuss amongst yourself I mean.
Brenda, there's not much. There's not much to discuss.
I mean it was a bunch of guys beating each other up and then
the last like minute and 1/2 wasguys getting thrown out and

(02:11:31):
then, you know, disco one. Yeah, it did.
It did get I was starting to wonder after a while if if
anything else was going to happen.
And the next thing you know, like rapid fire Louie, like
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, just shout out, out.
I like to hear Dusty on commentary anytime I hear him
yelling about clubbering and howinto nasty Ned he was that that

(02:11:52):
was probably the highlight of this battle royal for me.
Nasty Ned reminded me of that one guy from Heroes of Burke
County. The fucking guy in the vest.
I don't know if you ever saw that Brundo.
I'm I'm going to have to get youto link to that shit.
I I wound up buying that the documentary and the reunion off
of high spots years ago, and it's some of the fucking

(02:12:12):
greatest shit ever. I.
Can't find it? Yeah, the shit.
The ending was the shittiest the.
Fuck that was so bad. And then Disco Inferno doesn't
know he won. He's just upset about his hair.
Yeah, what's my hair? So there was this gimmick bro.
Yeah. Yeah, I guess so.

(02:12:34):
This was fun. OK Brundo, the entire
documentary is here on YouTube so I will send you that link.
Awesome. Oh boy.
Yeah. It's it's a great watch.
Just like this battle royal was.Yeah, this was fun.
This was fun. It was 5 minutes.
It was hilarious. Dusty picks, Nasty Ned.

(02:12:56):
Like you guys said, I really thought Dave Sullivan was going
to win. I figured he would need a win
going into, you know, the fucking World War three.
But the last disco. I figured Disco would win
because he was the only one thatwas like at that point on TV
regularly. Can anyone tell me the name of

(02:13:16):
the Ricky Santana Castro tag team?
Yeah, they said it. I forgot.
What the fuck? He said it a bunch.
I couldn't understand what they were fucking saying.
Ricky Santana. Hold on.
I'm a I'm a Yeah, I went to exchange maps, too.
Let's see here, 95. It's not there.
No. The Barrio Brothers.

(02:13:37):
That was it. The Barrio Brothers.
What was were Ricky and Fidel part of Savio's group or No, No.
Fidel is the Cuban assassin. That's right, why does he?
His Facebook page is facebook.com/crazy Dave's bar.

(02:13:58):
What the fuck is this? Who does he own this sports bar?
Ricky Santano. No Fidel Sierra.
Oh yeah, maybe he does. That looks like him.
Dave. Dave Peterson.
Dude, he wrestled forever and under every fucking gimmick

(02:14:20):
possible. Oh, Dave Sierra, Crazy Dave's
Sports Bar. theweb.com doesn't exist anymore.
So they. Oh, Boo.
Yeah. Maybe he went out of business.
Maybe he went out of business. Daddy.
Yeah. So I give homework a thumbs up,
man. It was an easy watch.
It was goofy. It was fun.
We got to see Frankie Lancaster.Yeah, yeah.

(02:14:48):
And the Border Patrol or the State Patrol or the.
State Patrol. There you go.
They'd be the Border Patrol today.
Well, I can tell you right now, the streak's going to be ending
after this one. So why?
Because a fourth wizard who's not with us tonight is going to
shit all over it no matter what.But I think Brundo's really

(02:15:09):
going to like this match. I.
Think Brundo's really going to like this match?
Are we going to XPW? We sure are, Sir.
Yeah, and it's. One and it's one of your all
time favorites. Oh boy.
You want to guess who was which one of the participants is in
this match? Is it the body?
No, but you close. Knuckles.

(02:15:32):
Fuck yeah, yes, you're getting Hiney, baby.
We're going to XPW drive in Massacre from the Heart
Ballroom. Can I remember who she's
fighting? Yes you can.
Is this Tessa? No it's not.
Oh OK, this is this is November 25th, 2023 is right around the
two year anniversary. Ludark Shaytan defends the XPW

(02:15:56):
Women's title in a death match against Mickey Knuckles.
I'm already giving it 2 thumbs up.
We are the fighter fucking. I don't think there ain't no
fucking going on at the HardballRoom for this one.
She's a weak. Mickey actually had.
I'm wishing her the best. She had a surgery over the
weekend. Yeah, she was in a She was in a

(02:16:16):
bad way. Yeah, yeah.
But I guess, I mean, they released her next day.
I guess she was doing better. Showed up to a show the next
day. Didn't she referee a match?
She was the. Ringing now?
Yeah, rubbing her high knee all over the referee.
She's such a freak. Oh my God, could you imagine the
boner you'd get if she backed you into a corner?

(02:16:36):
Why do you say things like that?What?
Dude, are you serious? She's a fucking goddess, bro.
You were not like this when she was on the show.
Yes, I was. She told me.
We're either fighting or fucking.
She was into me, bro. I think Bruno got a little Jelly
when she was talking to me. I definitely did.

(02:16:57):
I have that way the hardcore ladies.
Wow. Matt's a little jealous.
Hey, you got Jazzy. You got, you know.
Well, she got some hitters, Mom,I'm not going to lie, you know?
What I mean? I'm going to be an booty when I
see it. Yeah, you got that's it.
She's definitely a booty babe. And on the other side, you blow

(02:17:17):
your fucking brains out. Jeez, buddy.
And then the other side's got the blower and it.
What? What in the fuck am I looking
at? All right, so we got homework.
You'll send a link to me that I can put in the description of
the show please. What?

(02:18:03):
Did you piss? Oh God.
So we're doing a Yankee swap I'mout next week cancel Kevin's
back Rob Shit will be joining usOh yeah, wrestler.
So if you are a Rob shit fan or you're not sure who Rob Shit is,

(02:18:26):
TuneIn next week because he probably is a perfect fit for
this show with a name like Roger.
And then in two weeks, two weekstime, 14th anniversary show, can
confirm Henry O Godwin will be joining us at some point in the
evening. And I'll be working on a couple

(02:18:48):
other couple. I think Brendo's got a guy in
the hopper. And, you know, maybe we've got a
couple friends that might stop by and say hello.
Kate wants to come back. So it'll be a celebration.
I don't know how much wrestling talk will get done on the
anniversary show, but it sure will be a good time.
Oh, yeah. Please come on.
Come on, back on the 24th and celebrate with us.

(02:19:10):
And by the way, just to tell Jesse and everybody in the chat,
we do put up the links for the watchalongs for homework.
Just get us on spot. I actually, wherever you
download US, it'll be in the description if that helps.
Otherwise, we always put it on the network feed as well.
So when we have the post up there, it's a clickable link.
You can just go to shiningwizardsnetwork.com.

(02:19:33):
Find tonight's episode, click onthe link in the description
there you'll be good to go. And you could join us in all the
all the fun and shenanigans, youknow, and play along with us
next week when we talk about it.Oh yeah.
And hey, if you guys, hey, if you guys out there listening and
you got your ballads, do not forget to send in your Shining

(02:19:54):
Wizards Hall of Fame ballads by December 1st.
Yep, Yep. Thanksgiving is coming up.
Like the holidays are coming up,like you're going to forget
about it. So if you haven't filled out
your ballot, fucking do it now and send it to us, you
freakazoids. Otherwise, you're out next year.
Yeah, there's no give backs. You got to say.
You got to be in it to win it. If you ain't in it, you ain't

(02:20:15):
coming back. Also, if you want to win, I
already shipped out some shirts last week.
Shining Wizards Christmas shirts, 15 bucks, little man,
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This is podcast at Gmail. Get yourself a shirt.
Medium to three XL. We got them in stock.
There's not a lot left. They're going like the
proverbial hotcakes. You want to put some shining

(02:20:37):
Wizards cheer into somebody's life?
Send them a shirt. You know everything.
Look at that. Jesse says he's getting on his
ballot right now. So perfect you're reaching the
masses. Double TI love it.
I'm. Trying and.
I'm going to go upstairs and reach under my fucking Gooch.
But with that, we cute. Somebody take on the gimmick,

(02:20:58):
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We appreciate it. Rondo, You want this?
You want me to do it? Oh, I could do this one.

(02:21:40):
Yes, beautiful. Wow, Tony was tasked with doing
it and he passed. Good.

(02:22:02):
Hi, Diana. Diabolical work there brendo fly
you. Son of a bitch.
What have you had that's not theflavor?
I'm not adding. Anything health rules are
important that. That was beautiful.

(02:22:22):
I almost shed a tear for that one.
Brendo, I thought. I think we got a new Goodnight
Diana guy. Just wake.
Up How do you like that stinky TI?
Like it. Great.
If it's not you. Yeah, he could.
He could stick to putting up banners and things.
It's it's what you think it is. You're not good at the the
goodnight, Diana. Wow.

(02:22:42):
What? Brendo didn't wait.
First of all, Brendo's mic didn't cut out, right?
Brendo, like, hammed it up. And for the ladies, thank you
for your cervix. That's not nice.
Yeah, he's always mean, bro. He really is.
Brundle fly. We'll take a shit.

(02:23:05):
Aren't we all? Shit, dude, Everybody poops.
I almost had to reset the clock.Oh, good.
Yeah. Fucking Princess.
Fucking fresh ass. Never shits his pants.
Why are we making? Fun of him he's not even he's.
Not here. You're going to do the same
thing to me next week. Oh, I can't wait.
First 5 minutes of the show. You're going right under the
fucking bus. Yeah, 100%.

(02:23:27):
He hit me with a She looks like Jabba's slut.
That's not nice. Do you do you think he sets his
tracking to be a little faster because he takes such short
steps? Oh, don't you start with that,
Tony. Fuck you.
That's not very nice. Yeah.

(02:23:47):
Really rude. All right, take it easy.
Yeah, well, you get to do a lot.Wow.
Yeah, right. I'm pressing.
I'm not looking to super kick a fucking Turkey, but you should.
They suck. Yeah.
You would kick a Turkey. Fuck yeah.
Turkey suck. Dude, they're so mean.

(02:24:08):
You. Ever seen you ever have wild
turkeys going through your neighborhood?
Shut down a whole fucking town. Fuck that.
Yeah, they're fucking nasty. Nasty.
I was expecting to get at least a little bit more of a hammering
on Saturday. Wow, were you?
Fucking love a hammering seven days a week.
Dump status Tony. Why are you so loud bro?

(02:24:29):
Next Monday going to be dump status big time.
Fuck you and your fucking sportsclip haircut.
That's not nice. That was you.
No, it's not nice. Tell me somebody passed away.
Oh, Tony. Wait.
Who died? What's his nuts?
The enhancement guy? Moscow.

(02:24:49):
Yeah. There you go.
Does he have AIDS? No, he doesn't have AIDS.
Bundo, what's wrong with you? I want to know who has.
AIDS, Bundo thinks. Everybody has bonding my
underwear. What does that mean?
Mystery yo. No, had no interest in seeing
any of that. Wow.

(02:25:11):
All right, Are we done? Yeah, we're getting some booting
next week, so we'll see you guysthen.
All right, Hit the button. Button's hit.

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