Episode 768: Wacking Tallies!

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shining Wizards. You're watching the Shining
Wizard Wrestling podcast. All right, welcome to episode

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768 of the Shining Wizards Podcast.
You know what 68 is? Blow me and I owe you 1.
But what we owe you tonight is another fond episode of The
Shining Wizard Podcast leading up to next week's 14th
anniversary. Tonight we got our thoughts on
Blood and Guts while we preview Full Gear, which is pics baby.

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We got WWE War Games coming together while the You Can't See
Him Anymore tournament continues.
TNA remembered that they had ATVshow with the worst ending
possible, so we got all that andmore.
So let's just get into it with some wrestling talk.
And talk about wrestling. Brando.
Tony. And that's it today.

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Conspicuous by their absences. The other Kevin the handsome
one. Off to a good start already.
You got through your whole introand I fucked it up within 20
seconds. That's 'cause I write it down
now. Handsome Kevin taking the night
off well needed rest for the theMidget man and the fat man.

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Is over at. MSG tonight saying goodbye to
John Cena for the final time at the Garden.
So there's that. And I guess we have comments, We
have people joining us in the chat.
Yeah, we got people joining us already.
Welcome aboard everyone all. Right.
Brendo and I are hoping to breakthe sound barrier and the speed
record tonight by doing a show in under 90 minutes.
We'll see how that goes. I speed record it all the time.

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There's no one better at breaking that record, that's for
sure. Fuck yeah.
Now. Now, we got problems tonight and
I'll tell you why, because Matt usually steers the ship.
Matt keeps us in different directions.
HK is the production guy. So he'll pop in, you know, like
the, the gimmicks and the graphics and whatnot.
You're normally writing down, you know, episode potential,

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episode names. And I'm keeping track of like
popping up videos and whatnot, right.
So. So we're doing the job of four
men tonight, just the two of us.Which job is that, Tony?
Fucking hand jobs. Oh, you want jobs?
I don't know whatever else you. Want to call it?
I've been thinking of that beginning for about, I don't

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know, six or seven weeks now. What for next week?
No, no, no the. For tonight.
Yeah. Oh, the 6th?
Oh shit, it's going to be 69 next week.
Yep, 14th anniversary on 69. Couldn't have planned it any
better. Fuck yeah, I don't want to
spoil. Anything.
But. I know Matt's got a few
surprises lined up for us next week.

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I think, God, next week is just going to be a lot of Wizards
playing games, kind of like whatwe did last year.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, Matt's already, you know, it's out
there on Twitter. So if you're a fan of a flock or
the flock, we got Sick Boy next week, which I'm super freaking
excited for. And if you're a hog farmer, we

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got Henry Godwin returning to the show, so.
He's got some other. Surprises.
I don't want to spoil him yet. We'll, we'll, we'll let him if
he wants to put him out there and what not.
I'm sure we've got Kate as she booked herself last week too,
but we would want that anyway. She's the worst.
Swear to God she's related to Miko.
Miko Maestro. Oh.

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I wish I could tell you a story.About Miko, but I'll save that
for off the air. I completely forgot about that
one. Matt and I have interesting.
Conversations when we play Fortnite.
I kind of wish you would get a system.
To get on with us, dude, it's a ton of fun.
I have a system too, but it's inmy son's room and yeah.
Well, you own the house, don't you?
Yeah. So if you want to throw him out

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of the fucking room. For a little while so he can't
hit the bricks. Go fucking play some drums.
Dad's got to play some Fortnite.He'd Oh yeah, he'd absolutely
hate that. Speaking of hate and things, AEW
had blood and guts this past Wednesday.
Oh yeah, they did. Now Brundo, before I get into
what I want to say. OK, you're, you're typically

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well, you've become, you've beenslotted into the role.
Of AEW apologist on the show youlike, you like the stories, you
like the way things are, you know, give them a chance to play
out and what not. So I defer to you.
What did you think of Aews presentation of Blood and Guts
this past week? So there were definitely some

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things that I could pick bits offor sure.
But I think overall and especially the finishes, they
freaking nailed it storytelling wise and everything.
So in the women's and the men's,I feel like they ended both like
absolutely perfectly. But obviously there were some
things during the matches I didn't like as much as other

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things. But I hate I'm a huge blood and
guts mark. So, you know, anytime you get
some violence out there, I'm going to enjoy it, so.
I received a text from Mr. AllenDay.
OK. Thanks for watching Al

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Apparently we are sideways or vertical or something on YouTube
and honestly I can't figure out why.
I don't understand. He's texting me now.
OK so Twitter we're fine. Twitter we look normal but for
some reason YouTube which is ourbread and butter.

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Yeah, A. Couple of chodes and I don't
understand why. I mean, I know why we look like
chodes, but I couldn't understand why it would be
sideways chodes. Can we write that down Sideways
chodes? We got our first entry.
Good golly, Miss Molly. I don't, I really don't

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understand it. It says size regular.
Oh no wait, that's comments. What the dude?
See this is the problem. Like I appreciate the people at
Stream yard trying to fix thingsand continue to make things
better, but my God man, stop making things.
Worse, like my wife says we. I was going to say, my wife says

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we look fine there. But is she watching us on the?
YouTube, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That's. It 'cause I'm not watching, I'm
not seeing us fine. I'm seeing us the same.
Oh, now we're fine. We we got fixed.
Are we good? It's weird, like so if you look

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on the YouTube like I just signed on to the YouTube, it's
our faces plus the something else.
I don't know, it looks weird. I'm, I'm sorry, I'm feeling, I
feel like we're having a fuckingturnbuckle throwbacks moment
here, but. Folks, I mean.
Listen, we got to look at this because we want to make sure
that everybody's like seeing, you know, otherwise we just

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fucking look like idiots more than usual.
Yeah, but it looks like I shouldn't stop this.
Show it. Looks it looks like everything's
No, you see, like what the shit?You would you look on.
Oh, you know why? You know why?
Here's the problem. So because.
Because they've added this new version.

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There's actually 2 feeds going on right now.
So if you searched on The Shining Wizards, which is our
YouTube channel, there's one version that looks completely
normal, but the other one has like the little vertical like
cell phone next to the title of the episode.
Don't click that one because that's going to give you some
sort of shitty mobile view that we are not.
Or what you want to do is go forthe one without that little view

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which should be like right belowit if you search The Shining
Wizards. And then you could see me and
Brundlefly in all of our fuckingglory spread out.
You and your glory, me and my chunkiness.
Dude, don't. Don't ever put yourself down.
You are a beautiful. Handsome human being, just the
way you are. All right, that makes two of us

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on this show that thinks that, you know, my wife's still
watching. Oh, she's watching Miss Misses
Brundlefly's in there. Oh yeah, she was in here before
she saw us. Fine.
See. Oh, there you go.
Look at that. Yeah, well, she probably always
sees you fine, you know. Yeah, I just hope our show comes
up. That's her, her preschool link.

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So I hope it comes up one day onwhen she's showing stuff to the
kids. I hope, I hope nobody shows this
to their kids. I really like Yeah, please don't
like, don't watch it. Don't listen with your kids,
please. We talk unless you want to have,
unless you unless you want to have conversations with your

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child. That you're not ready to have.
Don't. Don't.
Yeah, I learned that watching South Park with my son.
Oh God yeah. My brother used to watch Family
Guy with his kids when they weresmall, like my niece and nephew.
I'm like. Why would you do that?
He's like, why? It's a fun show, Stewie.
And Martin? Yeah.
All right. I mean, maybe the earlier Family

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Guy might have. No, I'm talking about like, you
know, off the rails, inappropriate Family Guy.
Oh. OK, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Oh boy.
Oh, what up, Kyle? 'S.
Kyle's listening. Want us to know if Buck watches
with his kids? Whose kids?
Yeah, I mean, that's the question, Kyle, whose?

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Kids would he be watching with? I don't know if he gets Wi-Fi in
that van of his. No, he's got plenty of candy
though. Oh yeah, definitely.
Anyway, before we were derailed by folks trying to help us out
with our technical difficulties.Much appreciated by the way.
Blood and guts. You were happy with the endings.
What do you think about all the other stuff?

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Mixed bag. I mean, I, I didn't like people
getting out of the ring. I never liked that.
I mean, that's just my preference.
I never liked that in that cage match even.
Absolutely hated it. The even though I did enjoy the
towards the ending, the Darby thing where he gets chucked off

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the entrance way through fire. But that's just, you know, the
blood mark with me. But yeah, I'm trying to think
what else? Yeah.
So yeah, so the. Face is 1.
They all celebrated and Darby was dead up the aisle.
Oh yeah, he was on fire. That's fine.
Mark Briscoe was left for dead in the locker room and he

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manages to climb the cage. Yeah, that was that was an
interesting one. They always got to get somebody
on top of those cages. So I'll take it back to the
first match. So the women open the show, the
men close the show, and what I don't understand what the women
is, first of all, the women weresix on 6 instead of five on
five. I don't understand.
I don't. Understand.

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Yeah, I don't know why. Or and it was always six on six.
They like like each team, was iteach team had a replacement or
just yeah, each team had a replacement on it with Queen
Aminada and Priscilla Kelly getting out.
Priscilla Kelly. Not Priscilla.

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What's her name? The one with the arm?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she was the one that was
supposed to be teaming up with Megan Bane.
No. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Now it's Mina Shaka.
No, not Mina. Mina is the Asian girl.
The other one. No, no.
Who's the other one that was in there?
The other big bitch. The fucking death rider.
Bitch. Oh, Marina Shafir.

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Bro, here's something that I completely forgot about.
Yeah, Marina Shafir is the problem.
Do you remember her fucking promo?
That will live in infamy. Me and my buddies that watch it,
we bring up the problem every time we see her.
Hey, we'll point to another. Hey, you know her.

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No, you don't know her. It's bringing up that that will
live it in for me forever. So yeah, so I was I that that
all of a sudden clicked in my head because you know, me, I
mean, as much as I am an AW guy,I don't watch every episode, so
I don't necessarily follow the stories.
But boy, did that bring back memories.
My God. You caused the problem.

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You are the problem. My parents are the problem bro.
Blown spot after blown spot after blown spot in that damn
women's match. Dude, it was, it was rough.
It was clunky. I mean like a match like that.
You don't want it to be like super clean though too, because

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I mean then it doesn't look likerealistic, but it definitely it
had some clunk to it, that's forsure.
I mean, it started off kind of early when it looked like
whenever Sky Blue got in there and her and Julia were looking
for stuff in the turnbuckles andjust never found it.
Oh my God. We're off to the races they.
Picked the worst two to start out with.

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It was so slow and just so like.Oh no, I knew for a second for
right away. Sky Blue was starting this one.
She had an interview with Kyle Fletcher.
They were on somebody's show a month or two ago where she
talked about how she couldn't wait to get more hardcore and
she wants to do this and that and, like, light tubes or

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something. Yeah, Fletcher's looking at her
like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Fantastic. That's Moxley.
That's Moxley's influence on thelocker.
Room. That's that's all it is.
He's probably walking. Around going, hey, you know,
it'd be awesome if you had a Crimson mask in that, in that,
in that match. That'd be awesome.

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You're supposed to. You know, you really want it.
You really want to be awesome. Put some shit in the
turnbuckles. That'd be awesome.
I wanted, by the way, I, well, you didn't watch the the Adam
Page Will Hobbs match. In the beginning of that match,
they both ripped off a turnbuckle.
I wanted something like a knife or something to come flying out
of that, but sadly it didn't happen.

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You know what really made me laugh?
When Jamie Hader came out and she had the little satchel of
thumbtacks and she whipped, I forget who it was.
She whipped somebody with it andand the fucking tax just went
everywhere. I was like, all right, if
something bad was going to happen, that was fucking good.
That was good. Yeah, you know.
I got her been. Flew into the crowd.

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I bet it did. Probably, probably.
It could be worse. I agree though I don't.
Like, leaving the cage, like, yeah, Mercedes Monet didn't want
to be there yet. She brought all her belts in for
like, I'm so done with her. Too.
Oh, I didn't like that. Like especially what really
chapped me was the fact that shejust goes to the raft and says
hey, open the cage. And he does.

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He's like, come on, man, be an official, have her kick it open
or something like that in the way.
Oh my God, who wasn't at the endit it was it was the problem.
She was she kept beating somebody up after the match and
fucking Aubrey Ed gets in the way and she's like, hey, and
this is all on camera. Stop.
You got to stop that. It's over.

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Stop. Like, you know, like kind of
like got to be on camera. Oh.
My. God, oh you know, you know what
else? Chat my ass too.
What's that? Fucking the problem took off her
fucking socks. And then they fucking.
Us does. What did was.
Was that the match where they unearthed the bed of nails and
she fucking put butt Lander on the nails?
Yep. Yeah, yeah, that was it.

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Yeah, it just happened to me. A bed of nails.
At ringside just take a fucking back bump into it or power bomb,
whatever. Of course there's going to be a
bed of nails at ring size. It's Marina Shafir and Moxley
and nails and everything. So she takes.
Her socks off now her ankles aretailed.
I get it. She's a badass, just like
Moxley. She's an MMA girl.
Whatever, whatever. Yeah, that's how she wrestles.
I'd be surprised if she wrestledin boots.

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She stomps on the fucking glass with her bare feet to get the
glass on her fucking taped foot.And then I think she stomped on
Tony Storm's abdomen. It was Marina's Marina had one
of Megan Bane in the Figure 4 with the bat and then she
stomped glass into her chest. I.

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Like it but the glass. But the glass doesn't cut her in
the foot, it only fucking cuts the one that like come.
On it was like Taipei. Oh yeah, Taipei.
Yeah, you get the the glass on your feet or in your fists.
No. Well, Tony Stone did that.
The other thing, like dude, and I hate when WWE does it too, so
it's not just an AW thing. Enough with the fucking weapons.

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If you're going to bring a weapon in the ring, let it be
something that somebody snuck inand it becomes the fucking focal
point. Game changer of the match.
You know what I'm saying? I mean, like if you really like
if somebody, if you're going to sneak a chain into the ring and
it's in your boot or a spike or something like that, let that be
the fucking be all, end all the match.

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You know what I'm saying? Like everybody else is fucked up
and then just bam, you know, like you fucking nail.
Somebody, it's blood and guts and I think that's basically
what this is. It's a weapons cage match.
I'm pretty sure all these matches have had that.
So it's not like they're doing it just out of nowhere.
That's just that's what it is. They take it a step.
And like. I mean.
WT Oregon does. It too, but.

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It's like and what else kills metoo is like most of the.
Women in the match, aside from blowing spots here and there.
They're all in this tag team tournament.
So it's like you expect these women to go in here and fucking
battle it to the death and then like, oh, see you Wednesday for
the next round of the tag tournament and everybody's just

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going to show up on Wednesday and everybody's going to be
hunky Dory and maybe somebody will have a Band-Aid on their
head. But everything else, everybody
will be fine. I tell you what though, some.
Of them sold it on Saturday. Once.
What's her name? Fucking Jamie Hader.
Oh man, all day every day with the fucking waist high Daisy

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Dukes on and shit. Oh my God.
Dude fucked up too. She.
Was the only one that got hurt, right?
Like yeah, she got like her teeth chipped or something.
Like that? Yeah, her face got.
I thought it was it was actuallywhen one of them kicked the I
think it was like a trash can lid into her face.

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I thought it was when they threwher out of the the ring because
it looked like she landed face first on like the steps in the
side but. So I watch this with my wife and
she couldn't believe like just the just the things that these
women were doing to each other. And then I when I found out that
Jamie Hader was hurt and I told I was talking with Double T and

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I was like, you know, it's kind of fucked up.
I'm like, she's a pretty girl now.
Her now her grill's all fucked up.
Yeah, but these women are tough,this and that.
I'm like, no, I'm like, these women are stupid.
He goes, why would you say that?He goes, what's the difference
between this and and the men? I go because she's a pretty girl
now she's damaged goods. I said a guy gets fucked up.

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That's building character. He's a fucking tough guy.
You you think this poor broad with a grill all fucked up is
going to find herself a man now,Tony?
Well, no, these girls are fucking dumb.
I said yeah, some fucking wrestling chode is going to be
like, oh, Maria. I was just going to say, you
know for a fact, she smiles. With that grill, you're still

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not. Saying Oh my.
No, I, I mean, I wouldn't, but you know, it's going to be all
the chodes going like, oh, Jamie, I'll take care of you.
You're so beautiful. Anyway, in the meantime, she's
like, she's gone. Oh, come, come see me.
I'm I'm still a good woman. Then the kids are going to have
no teeth. Like, come on.
Oh, they couldn't. It's not genetic.

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Jesus, I did that for you to seeif you were paying attention.
Well, I mean, in fairness, when they're born they don't have any
teeth. Anyway, so I wasn't.
Wrong point. Yeah, I'd be.
I think we'd be more worried if they were born with teeth.
Oh God, war heroes in the chat give me shit.
No I don't. I don't hate all women's combat
sports. Some women are built to get the
shit beat out of. Them and that's about.

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It by other women by other women.
Don't get it twisted. Two women want to strap on some
fucking gloves and beat the shitout of each other and they want
to make and they're making moneydoing.
It God bless them. God bless them.
Where's that? I just don't.
I just don't like seeing women get messed.
Up. I'm sorry, I I don't, I just
don't. Yet.
Homework yet? Homework.

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I don't know, I think, I think, I think the big difference is
#1AW is not like a hardcore promotion, but #2 like I.
Don't. I don't.
Know, man, like there's also like doing it just to do it.
And I think that's kind of whereAW is now.
Case in point, let's go to the men's match.

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Wait, before we move on to the men's.
Go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry, did you like the
women's finish? Because I thought that was
fantastic. I thought it was.
Creative, but I did it annoyed me because to get to that point
they had to throw a bunch of women out of the cage, which
which defeats the purpose of thecage like I think they could
have. I think possibly if they put a
little more effort into it, theycould have thought about a

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better way to finish it. But I did like.
Yeah, but I did like the fact that it was Tony Storm doing
that to protect her friend, you know what I'm saying?
But then again, at that point, the heels have to know when to
stop healing. They just do.
You defeated them. Let Tony Storm go over and cover
her girl. And if she tries to attack you,

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which she did, beat her down andthat's the end of it.
Leave her alone after that, you know what I'm saying?
Take your fucking. Paws.
But take your pose, let the crowd Boo for you, and then
fucking walk off. You won.
Leave them in the pile and the fucking heap of defeat that they
are. That's it.
That's. It, you know, just a little,

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just you know. I don't know, but it goes back
to like not liking them leave, leave in the cage.
And I did. I did enjoy the way the finish
was done, but not the not necessarily the way they got
there at that point. Yeah, yeah, I didn't.
I got to point out too, I absolutely loved in the middle
of it when Harley Cameron bringsout the Harley or the Monet

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puppet. She got brass knuckles
underneath and just socks Monet in the face.
Yeah. And then Marie was at all.
Yeah. But then and then I was like,
yeah, watch Monet's going to getback up again.
But eventually, no. But in fairness, in fairness, I
was watching it and two of the other women, like went over like
to kind of like I, I don't know if they were telling her like,

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hey, get up, we're going to do something.
And she, I don't know if she told them like, no, I'm selling.
But it was smart that when they walked away, Monet stood down so
she didn't get up, which I I thought was smart, you know?
Whether it was on. Them just check Monet.
Yeah, but whether it was them just checking on her or them
wanting to get her up and she was like, no, leave me be, let

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me sell, like that was well played out.
So there's moments that were good, but then other moments
that were just slop shopping. I was like, oh.
Oh, I don't know, man. I mean, I guess overall it was
fine. Yeah, do we men what the other
chode said. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got

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double TS notes. All right, so he said he enjoyed
the men's more. He said he loved.
He thought it was not creative how they got out of the cage.
And he hated sky Blue rocking the Crimson mask and he hated

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the end. No, not really.
That's complete the opposite. I'm just doing that to fuck with
him. Yeah.
So he he said he liked this one a lot.
He loves sky blue, the whipping people with the belts that that
sounded like it was terrible too.
But he said he. Yeah, his words.

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Having the ladies get locked outand forcing Tony to watch them
destroy Mina was fantastic. She quit to save her lover.
It's not perfect, but it made sense.
And he's good with that. And so am I.
Now wait. Those are the two that matched
her tits together right? Did they used to do?
That I think it was it them or yeah, it wasn't Mariah May,

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right. I don't.
Or was it? And where did the shoe come
from? Oh, that's a call back from Tony
and Mariah May. Oh no I know, I know, tits out,
watched the shoe and all that but like where did the shoe come
from? Did she have it like like under
her tights or something? I don't know actually.
It was just weird, right? Like all of a sudden it's like
Tony shoe. I was like, watch the shoe,

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watch the shoe. All right, a side nitpick before
we actually talk about the men'smatch.
Is it just me or did it seem like commentary completely
forgot all the rules? To fucking blood and guts when
the men's match started. I might have missed that.
They had no idea. I I watch it with a few of my

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friends and I have for years andsometimes we just miss what
commentary says. They they didn't explain how the
match starts. They didn't explain that like
the match couldn't end until allthe participants were in.
They said that there's. Like after a period of time the
next person will come in. It's like, well, you know how
much time it is fucking? Yeah, it shouldn't be a period
of time. No, after it was very wishy

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washy and I'm like you motherfuckers, you did this
earlier in the night, how are you fucking this up now?
Tony Shivani's done a hundred ofthese at this.
Point. That's right, idiot.
One thing I will say about the men's match, I don't understand
how if these fucking idiots, theMoxley Gang, are outsiders and

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they come through the crowd, howthey were able to finagle their
own cage door to get into the fucking cage.
Yeah, 'cause they didn't use it for the women's match, they only
used it for these. Idiots.
Well, they did. Marina Shafir used it I think
though. Oh, maybe she did.
Yeah, because she did the. But still.
She did whatever the thing was, yeah.
But still, how? Why?

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For what reason? For what reason?
Come on, 'cause they're. But they're supposed to be
outside. Yeah, they're supposed to be.
Outsiders though, right? Like they play by their own
rules. Of the Oh, let's.
Get their own fucking door. Seriously.
Yeah, I I didn't like the the other door, but to reach his
own. Mark Briscoe gets beat up.

(29:17):
They've they've the the the fucking Don Callas family beat
him up. Really.
Really, I mean, it makes sense. He's he's few.
He's going to have a match with Kyle Fletcher in the next this
weekend. I.
Think he's going to win the title?
I don't want to give it away, but that's that's such a coin

(29:38):
flip because of the step. I could see them having fun with
Mark Briscoe and the Callus family and he could absolutely
make that exciting. But I feel like they really need
to give him something, like he'salways going to be fantastic.
Mark Briscoe's a treasure. He could lose a million times.
He's going to be good, good. But I feel like it's time.

(30:02):
And I feel like also with Fletcher, sooner rather than
later, he's going to go up the card, like even further up the
card. He really proved it against
Adam. Adam Page.
Daniel Garcia still looks like aDick.
He just looks like he doesn't like Will Yuta.
I can get behind. He looks good.

(30:23):
Daniel Garcia just looks. He look, he does like he looks
like his. Hair is so fucking gorgeous,
dude. He's fucking making AJ.
He's giving AJ Styles a run for the money in the hair.
Maybe that's why I hit him, because I wish I had that.
Come on dude. You're a handsome guy.
How many times we got to go overthis?
I had maybe because I had that no longer do anymore stop.

(30:43):
You mean you mean to tell me your old lady don't like putting
a little baby oil on your head, shining you up like a little
Kojak action? If she's in the chat still, I
would defer to her. Oh, 100.
Percent everything The hell yeahand loves that.
Why not own it? You own it.
Well, you look good. Stop it.
Yeah. I feel like I'm talking to Phil
Reyer now. The couch smell.

(31:07):
No stop, you always got to go too far there.
Brundle fly. That's what I do.
I always I my my mantra in wrestling and I know a lot of
like us older fellas like to go that way.
Sometimes you just need to slow things down a bit, let things
register, let the crowd get intoit.

(31:28):
There was an awful lot in this men's match that they just
fucking did not care about that rule or that that that trope.
What if Moxie pull out? What?
For a long match too, there's that's a lot that that happened.
I know, but was this the match who got dragged?
Through the glass on the canvas.Was that Moxley?

(31:48):
Who got dragged? Through the IT was either Moxley
or Darby. It was probably Darby because
they fucked Darby. Up.
Yeah, it was. Darby and Moxley ended up in the
class at the end. Yeah, but still, like, Darby
hits the mat, Moxley just grabs his legs and fucking goes to
town. He doesn't even let it register
that he's about to do this. You know, like grab his fucking

(32:09):
legs, look back at the glass, look at him, give him the finger
that he likes to fucking do, andthen drag him through and don't
fucking give him this, this, this and this.
Just drag him through once, Let the crowd go.
Oh, what the fuck? And then let the crowd, like let
them get up. And after they're covering their

(32:29):
eyes, when they start to peek out again, turn them around and
drag them back the other way. Yeah, drag them chest first this
time. Whatever, but give it some time
to breathe, you know what I'm saying?
Like, give it that couple extra seconds.
It means so much more. Who pulled out the thing and
started stabbing people with it?Was it Darby?
Somebody was stabbing people with something.

(32:49):
What's it? Oh no, it was.
It was fucking Moxley. He took something out and
started jabbing Darby. With it, that was a piece of the
mirror from the the previous match, the one that got smashed.
Was that on Tony's face or? Yeah, it was.
Tony's phone was in the corner and and it got smashed on her.
I think that's what it was. Yeah.
And then he fucking yeah. Here you go, Daniel Garcia, go

(33:10):
ahead and do it. And then he like right away,
like the fucker just take it like grab the fucking thing.
And then like, you know, but him, he's just like, it's like.
Slow it down, bitch, slow it down.
I know you're not a big Orange Cassidy fan, but did you like
them? Staple in his hands you didn't
like. That Nope.
I like that. Nope.

(33:30):
I thought that was creative. You know the guy with the
pockets, Let's keep him in the pockets.
Staple the freaking hands in there.
The worst part was the worst part was Claudio staples him one
more time and then throws him down to the canvas.
Nope, not enough for Moxley. Got to jump on him and throw a
couple more staples. Dude, we get it, you stapled his
fucking hands. What are you trying to get every

(33:52):
finger? Now come.
On he just wants. He hates him.
He's showing that he freaking hates him and he wants as much
pain as possible. Then just keep kicking him in
the Dick. And Moxley's doing everything he
can to win this because he's been on such a losing streak.
Just kick. Him in the Dick.
Kick him in the Dick, Kick him in the Dick.
Here we go. I dunk biscuits, my man.

(34:14):
It's hard to remember who did what.
Insane spots sums it all up. Too much too many times on the
card. Overkill just makes you numb to
it and all means less. Yeah, it's hard to have two
matches like this, and it's not something that AEW exclusive.
I don't like when fucking WWE doesn't either.
Yeah, I don't. We don't need 2 fucking war

(34:38):
games matches like this. We.
Just I, I always hated that about hell in the cell, that
they would have like 3 hell in the cells and but like always
one of them felt forced. Like at least these two didn't
feel forced. Like they both had like reasons
behind it. But yeah, I could see, I, I kind

(34:58):
of wish this was just the women's, the women's one in a
way. Why can't they split this up to
like one each every like 6 months?
Yeah, I would and. Just and actually.
Build to it instead of saying like, you know, like, oh, you
know, blood and guts is going tobe on X date.
So then like now you know, it's coming, you know, isn't that
what they did? He did.

(35:19):
They didn't do that here. No, no, I like it more
organically 'cause then you don't know it.
It feels like they could force something through.
Like again with Hell in a Cell, I always hated that it was a
whole pay-per-view. It wasn't just like, you know,
something's coming through like,oh, you know, Hell in Cells
coming. So let's get some blood feuds
going and. That and that's why I'm sort of

(35:42):
OK with Elimination Chamber now,because the Royal Rumble is your
big shot to get in to WrestleMania.
However, if you miss out on thatand you can earn your way in the
Hell in the Cell, well, now you really got to fucking earn it.
You know what I'm saying? Like.
Now all the fucking marbles are on the line here, you know?

(36:05):
Yeah, the way they've done that is good.
Yeah, Yep. But at least it makes sense.
It's. Not like, oh, we're just putting
6 guys in in fucking in the Elimination Chamber, yeah.
Yeah, that's true. But I this was another one.
I really got to say I love the ending and this is what I want
from the second day, from the second day announced it.

(36:28):
I wanted Kyle O'Reilly tapping out Jon Moxley.
Like I felt like that was what they've been building to for a
couple of weeks with the DQ whenhe had them in the ankle lock
and Moxley punched out the ref. They had the double count out.
They had another count out with Moxley so I felt like this was
the good crescendo to that with him in the cage with no place

(36:52):
Moxley could go and he he knew all his guys were fucked so he
had no choice but to give up. So if any, and now they
hopefully they do something big with Kyle O'Reilly.
I hope so, I hope. So I like him a lot so.
I just, I just think Moxley oversells these fucking
predicaments, every single fucking submission predicament

(37:14):
he's been in. It's almost like, it's almost
like it's too goofy the way he'sselling it like those.
You know what, You know what I mean?
I did. I did like the.
Sequence into the finish, thoughthe sequence into the finish was
really good, really well done. Yeah.
And they and they say like, you know, a while from now what

(37:34):
people are going to remember howmatches finishes and these two
had both had great finishes. So definite wins there.
Mark Briscoe's fucking Superman though, huh?
Yeah, apparently it's beat up backstage.
Hobbles his way out, climbs right up to the top of the cage,
brings a pulley system with him to fucking bring some chairs up

(37:55):
there. He really wanted to beat up that
hand job. Wheeler, Utah.
I don't know, ma'am. I hate him also because of his
because he's a big Philly fan. So that's strike two.
That's the fucking wall, That's the hell you're going to die on,
bro. Yeah, he's a fan.
If Double T was here too, he would.
He'd agree. I don't, I don't take anything

(38:17):
he fucking says seriously. How does Mets do this year?
They didn't make it. Oh, you're a Mets fan too,
aren't you? Yeah.
Yeah, there's always. You know what, I'm not even a
baseball fan, so fuck them anyway.
Don't worry, next year's our year.
Been saying that for 39 years now.
Were you alive in 86? Yeah.

(38:40):
How old are you? Like one No.
I was 5 I think. Oh, so you're.
All in 81. Yeah, you're my first number.
My first baseball memory is the Mets parade where all of them
were hungover and. Well, maybe other things.
Growing up, yeah. No, I read.
I read the book. The. 80s were a magical time.

(39:03):
I heard there was a. Lot of celebrating after
WrestleMania too, so. Yeah, it was snowing in April.
It was snowing in October, you know.
Snows all year round, yeah. Good point.
If only it would snow on the Giants.
Jesus. And I started getting.
Back into football this season and like, I'm like, I picked a
fucking terrible time to do so. I really did.

(39:27):
It was like hope for the Giants.It's like, oh, look at the, you
know, the quarterback's doing great.
The what was it, the wide receiver and they're now they're
both injured or what not. Yeah, yeah and yeah.
What's his what's his name? Was a fucking shining star too.
They were like trying to hype the team around them and shit.
What the fuck is his name? They the other guy that got

(39:49):
hurt. He's out for the season.
What the fuck's his name? I.
Don't know. Scatabo.
Scatabo. Yeah, Yep.
They're saying he was like the fucking bright even even even
Dart was like he's awesome. He fucking gets the team hyped
up like he's like he's great to.Have around the locker room,
whatever, whatever, and then andthen Dart doesn't know what

(40:09):
fucking day of the week it is either.
And now they got a new coach, the new quarterback, and it's
like same result this week anyway, so whatever.
I actually looked at tickets I kind of wanted to go yesterday,
but they're just out of the it'stoo too expensive, even though
they stink. Yeah, but you might.
You might know somebody that hastickets that might say, hey, you

(40:29):
want to go to the game I don't want.
To, I mean, if somebody offered,I would definitely take it no
matter who they were playing, but yeah.
You hear that? Folks, if you got tickets for
the Giants and you don't feel like fucking disappointing
yourself, message Brundo the. Jets too, probably.
He also likes Dick pics so you could send one along too let.
Me see, let me pull up your number so I can give them a

(40:52):
number to send that to. Yeah, sure.
Who the fuck is at my door now? I don't like that I get these
fucking noted Amazon. My wife is spending money again.
Look at that. So we got a full gear coming up
this weekend. Oh, a pay-per-view.
Wonderful. You got 14 matches to picks
probably. I.

(41:13):
Thought you were going to tell me the card was already set.
Well, no, they got they got a good amount of the card set.
So at the top we got Hangman, Adam Page and Samoa Joe.
Again. Cage match.
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder how that one's going.
To go, I'm hoping Paige wins. I mean, I've always I if Joe, if

(41:35):
Joe wins, I'm always good with that.
But I'm certain I don't want to give away my picks yet.
Pick Samoa Joe, Tony. We got the women's title match
and TNT title match. Chris Dalander, Mercedes Monet.
Is that is that when it takes all?
Yeah, I believe it is. Really.

(41:57):
I'm pretty. That's odd.
I think they said it was. Well, I know.
This much before the pay-per-view, Red Velvet's going
to have to fucking unify them titles because she's got a match
against Mercedes Monet as well. Yeah, this one.
Is for the TV Ring of Honor TV belts.
Does that mean she'll have 14 belts?
Brundo. I don't think so, because I
think that would put the other two back together.
But knowing Monet, she'll carry all 14.

(42:20):
She's still got the own heart belt out there.
I hate that shit so much. I hate that shit so.
Much so we got the tag team champions of Bro Dildo against
FTR. Oh, because they almost.
Crippled Ricky? Oh, they tried to cripple Ricky
Steamboat. Oh my God, that went on forever.
Yeah, and Flair couldn't make the show, huh?
Apparently he was there, but he was in severe pain.

(42:45):
Somebody get me the hair of the dog.
Somebody should have had some more woo energy.
Oh, that mushroom cocktail that he was fucking pushing.
What had happened to Woo Wings? Woo.
Wings. Oh fuck we got Kyle Fletcher
gets Mark Briscoe in a No DQ match where if Frisco loses or

(43:09):
puts him in the Callus family. Oh God I hate that shit.
Really. I mean, Mark Frisco would.
He's going to be. Like an entertaining.
Yeah, what's he going to do bring?
Chickens to the locker room. You're thinking about it now.
That's not a bad idea. It's really not.
Has them all over for dinner andthey all wind up at the fucking

(43:30):
compound in Delaware. Oh.
I'd love that. Hey, one of my favorite is when
he was, what was he when he was not feuding?
He was with Jay Lethal and Jeff Jarrett, Sanjay Dutt and satin
him singing and he had them all over.
They're satin him singing these giant overalls and everything.

(43:50):
They're dancing around with Briscoe's kid.
It's good times. Briscoe will make anything good
after that. Darby Allen versus pack.
Oh, because they set that up in.Fucking blood and guts, right?
Collision officially. Oh God.
Putting him to a fucking flamingtable wasn't enough.

(44:11):
No, I mean I'm all in for it. Pack is so fucking good.
He's so juiced. Dude, he's, he really is.
We got the Casino Gauntlet matchto crown the inaugurable the.
Inaugurable champion, Can you? Please write down inaugurable.

(44:31):
Doesn't matter. Oh my God.
Down. It's going to look like crap
later. Inaugurable, I think.
That's I think. That's in the lead.
Now that was a good one. Listen, Matt, Matt's not here to
screw up the English language, so somebody has to.
No, I mean, I did 10 seconds in,so yeah, whoops, whoops.

(44:52):
It was a big fucking matzo ball right down the fucking center.
Let's see, So we have. Is this, is this the $10 billion
match? Yes, Kenny Omega and Jurassic
Express versus the Bucks and Alexander $1 million match. $1
million. Then on the pre show for we got

(45:22):
RPG vice against QT Marshall andBig Boom AJ.
It's so funny. QT Marshall has been fucking
like pre show match. Forever.
Yup, forever. Except for.
Was he one of the? Assholes that wrestled Michael
Nakazawa like early on too. Oh, I'm certain.

(45:43):
Yeah, I have a feeling they cross path.
Who was the other? Jerk off that used to fucking
walk around the box. What the hell is his name?
Oh, Brandon Cutler. Yeah, where?
Where's Chicken Cutlet been? He is not around no more.
He, I think. Oh, he retired, didn't he?
Recently. No, no, he showed up again
recently. I think from wrestling he's
doing like some. Behind the scenes shit now.
He's been doing the behind the scenes stuff for a while and.

(46:05):
But I thought he had a final match against QT Marshall too,
didn't he? Did he Oh God, yeah.
They feuded forever during the Ithink they're in a daily, daily
place time I. I miss, I miss early on AW when
fucking Mike Jabali used to comearound the fucking head of the
the gaming thing, whatever the fuck.

(46:25):
He was. Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
Right. And Nakazawa used to squirt the
fucking baby oil on himself to slip out of all the holes and
shit. That's they one of my favorite
things they ever did on BTE backwhen I watched it was you
remember when Mike Matt Seidel debuted and he fell off the top
rope? Yes, and they showed Nakazawa
fucking greasing up the rope. And I think they had a match out

(46:48):
of that too. So that's making chicken chicken
shit into chicken salad, that's for sure.
Or the time they had the fuckingDark Order beat up a bunch of
the baby faces and the one Dark Order guy was like not hitting
him. He was hitting the mat.
And then they had a trial where they fucking brought that guy
forward and they questioned him and like, why didn't you beat
him up? See, that's the AEW that I miss.

(47:11):
Yep. That goofy dumb shit.
You know why? Because that shit is you're not
taking it seriously. You know what I'm saying?
And you're you're not, you're not trying to be serious, but be
goofy at the same time that. Kind of shit to me is like
you're just in it to have fun and that I can get behind.
A lot of the fun stuff that happened on, like dark and what

(47:34):
else? And dark elevation.
Yeah, Dark Elevation, the BTE and all that stuff, they still,
they still tried to be serious as much as possible on Dynamite.
But then again, during a pandemic you can only get like
35% of the roster there, so. Yeah, but not only that, like.
There were, there were moments where like you knew it was going
to be goofy and like it was just, they would, they just did

(47:55):
it for the goofiness of it, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Nowadays, like when they try
shit like that, I feel like theytry too hard.
Let it flow, man. Let it flow.
Give Maki Ito a microphone and tell.
Her. Have at it girl.
Go ahead. We got one more match that
you're going to love. So we got a four way match, the

(48:16):
Acclaimed versus the Bang, Bang Gang versus Brian Keith and Big
Bill versus the Outrunners for $200,000.
So let me ask. You this.
Yes. This tag team match four way is
for $200,000. Yes.
What are we paying the the WorldTag Team Champions when they win

(48:39):
a match? Does this mean they're making
like $500,000 a shot? You know what I'm saying?
Good point. Like what's the winner's purse
to? The tag team champions like if
Bro Dildo wins at the pay-per-view over FTR.
Are they getting $250,000? Are they getting $500,000?
Are they not making this much and wondering why they're even

(49:01):
bothering being tag champs when they could be at the bottom of
the card and just keep racking up to 100K?
You know, you're talking about funny shit happening in AW.
It would be fun if you know, bro.
Dildo knocked on the door of Tony Kahn one day and was like,
hey, we're your champs, why are you giving away all this money?
Not to us. We want to be in $1000 matches.

(49:22):
Yeah. If I was fucking Adam, if I was
Adam Page, I'd be kicking down his door going $1,000,000 for
these fucking assholes. Really.
I'm about to murder Samoa Joe again.
Where's my million? Like what the fuck?
Hold on, let me highlight this because apparently Kate wants to

(49:43):
see Jimmy Havoc back. Or is that what I'm reading?
It's funny because some of that shit rolled and other times
you're like how was Dustin Rose versus Jimmy Havoc a main event
or whatever? I mean didn't we also get Moxley
against Joey Janella main event thing sometimes too?
Janella would take Janella wouldtake his shoes off for no reason
and then get just fucking stomped into glass.

(50:05):
That was one of the first. That was before they even had
TV. The Moxley Joey Janella match I
remember. Was that on the 1st all in
pay-per-view before before AW thing?
Before the 1st Fire Fest, which was just a that was like a
Bleacher Report thing. God, yeah.
So that was before Dynamite debuted.

(50:26):
I. Wonder what, Jimmy?
Havoc's up to these days. He's probably looking for work.
I. Think he was delivering packages
the last I saw. Oh yeah, so was.
So was Buck and his man. Yeah, maybe they got a Pervs R
Us delivery system. You think?
I think he was delivering packages, maybe a contender.
It is now. Wow, Kate's coming in hot.

(50:55):
Bluetooth packages probs. Holy shit, could you imagine
that crazy motherfucker going around like England?
Like oi, your tally wack is not working.
Any tallies, eh? I don't think Jimmy Havoc had to

(51:16):
worry about whacking tally whackers or whatever.
He was whacking somebody else. Well, that's what got him in
trouble, no? Yeah, among many, probably many
other things. Whacking tallies, yeah.
Let me write that one down. Holy shit.
I think we covered sufficiently.A EWI mean?

(51:39):
Yeah, if you told me we'd go 50 minutes on AW today, I would.
I mean, we had a little bit of technical difficulties, but.
Whatever. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I don't give a shit about the current AEW Dynamite lineup.
Whatever. TuneIn Tune.
In Wednesday if you want to get aggravated.
Oh, Taylay's wrestling Bain and Shafir.

(51:59):
Don't fucking miss that. Tay J.
You mean? Yeah.
Oh, TJ, what what I say? Taylay, Taylay.
Did I say that? Yeah, Taylayam.
You know why? Because they're both beautiful.
I I don't. Care.
They really are, yeah. Speaking of beautiful, you got
the fucking tit squad of Tony Storm and Mina Shirakawa.
Oh boy, Riho. And wait, who's Alex Winder?

(52:22):
Who's who's that? That's Osprey's old lady, his
ball and chain. Oh the fucking.
Beatrix Potter. Not Donna Beatrix Potter.
What the fuck was her name? No, that was B Priestley.
That's different. Oh, this ain't B Priestly.
No, no, they broke up years ago.Oh.
I didn't know. Yeah, yeah.
Get with it. Listen.

(52:43):
Move around, I don't know. Me and me and a few of our
friends have a a spreadsheet of of banging who in the wrestling
world so. Well, you Really.
No. Yeah, we actually do.
How have you not brought this tothe show?
Yet that's just amazing. I could always bring it to.
I could always get it sent and brought it to the show.

(53:04):
Speaking of bringing things to the show, as an aside, we we had
a death over the weekend. That's true.
Yep. Bob Caudle, announcer.
Extraordinaire, 95 years young. Point, Tony.
Swish. Look man, it's a death pool.

(53:25):
I ain't ashamed to say it. I was the first asshole to put
that shit in the discord too. Who was?
Yeah, I saw that. I'm waiting myself.
What else? Somebody.
Oh yeah, he was a local. Guy too, and I knew who he.
Was like I. Didn't know what I mean.
I mean who was the other? The other person you had that

(53:47):
put you up by 1. Oh, oh, I'll get into that.
I had Bill Mercer. Oh, that's.
Right, another announcer. He died back on March 23rd.
Bob Caudle died on the 16th of November, so I have two points.
You have Steve McMichael who died back in April.
You got a point. Technically I got 2 point or two
guys that died, but unfortunately one passed away a

(54:08):
long time ago. Yeah, sorry about that.
And Matt had Black Bart who diedback in January 9th.
So the standings right now, I have two, you have one, Matt has
one. Handsome Kevin still not on the
board, but we don't know how done the book Patterson's doing
these days so. I hate to say it this way, but
you're really good at picking things dude.

(54:30):
If I win the Deadpool. If I win the Deadpool and the
pay-per-view picks this year, I'm shutting it all down.
Fuck it. I'm trying with the pay-per-view
picks still stay sticking with you 2 picks down.
Yeah, you won't catch me. Yeah, you're probably right.
Oh shit, we didn't even mention Rob.
Shit, shit. On us and said he ain't doing

(54:50):
the show tonight. Oh, yeah, we, we put there, Matt
put that out there. Despite him being in the
graphic, he will not be. Unless you want to do a Rob shit
impression I can interview. You I could not do that.
Why? I don't think I've ever seen Rob
shit Russell. No, but I mean, you could
pretend you're him, right? I mean I did in my bed once when

(55:12):
I shit with bed. More like Brendan's shit.
It wasn't a name, it was a command.
It was an exclamation it. Was definitely an exclamation.
Good. Lord.
Yep, that's too bad. I wanted to ask him about the
shit your pants thing. Whatever.

(55:34):
Whatever. Let me see what else happened.
But but but TNA Jim Ross is Jim Ross is apparently coming back
in a few weeks. Yeah.
I wonder if he's going to. I wonder if he's going to shit
on any of the black wrestlers inAEW.
It's so weird, too, because you got to think of like all the

(55:56):
people he signed over the years,Rock, Mark Henry, Bobby Lashley
was one of his guys. I tell you this much though,
Dutch Mantel made a good point. As of right now, Bully Ray was
the only one that backed the story, even though they
mentioned a bunch of other people heard it.
So, you know, I mean, Bully Ray's going to his partner.

(56:17):
Of course, not saying that Jim Ross was it was beyond him that
he said it, but he's like, hey, I know Jim Ross a long time.
Never, never in my life have I ever heard him even like, you
know, consider something like that, let alone I.
Want to say Ron killing said or the truth?
Said it once. About Jim Ross.
Yeah, I think like years ago when he first did.

(56:39):
He really? When he first left WWE.
Because that would be some sort of corroboration, right?
Yeah, but I'm not 100% sure. Let me see Ron killings Jim
Ross. It would have been a long time
ago after the K quick thing. Yeah, I don't know.

(57:00):
There's a bunch of videos here and.
I'd have to pop in my Ron the Truth Killings shoot interview.
Yeah, I don't know, it's all RonKillings doing his new fucking
look with his head shaved and. Yeah, that's fun.
Yeah, maybe not that. OK, You know what it sounds
about right, though. I that you mentioned it.

(57:23):
I kind of seem to remember something like that, but I don't
know. Whatever.
Yeah. Whatever.
And one quick note, I'll say send our best out to Rebel as
well who was diagnosed with lymphoma cancer I believe or
pulmonary lymphoma. She's got lung cancer.

(57:47):
Yeah. I mean the the the easiest way
to break it down, which is unfortunate.
Yeah, yeah, especially because she, I think it said she was
misdiagnosed as well from. It it sucks and it happens
because because a lot of times. You know, especially somebody at
her age, you wouldn't think thatthe first thing you would think

(58:08):
is pneumonia, which is like the number one thing that they
confuse lung cancer for because it pretty much looks the same,
you know, And if it's somebody who's healthy, who doesn't
smoke, who's not around like carcinogens, things like that,
you don't expect it. Yeah.
So it's, it's a misdiagnosis. I, I wouldn't say it's like
malpractice or like, you know, like.

(58:28):
Old. No.
Yeah, yeah. Fucking mistake.
It's just fucking. It's extremely unfortunate man.
Lung cancer. Cancer sucks to begin with.
Yeah, yeah. So hopefully, hopefully she gets
better soon. The last couple of years of
Rebel in AW was fantastic. She was always great so and she

(58:48):
just seems like a great person. Pro.
Tooth and nail match. That's right.
Tooth and nail match. There you go.
He's like Doctor Baker is not in.
She was. Not highlighted.
This out. You want to talk about early AW,
she was one of the highlights. Oh my God, Rebo.
Yeah. She was, man, she was something

(59:10):
special. She made a lot of that shit, so
much fun. Oh yeah, so much.
Fun for sure. So Speaking of Speaking of fun,
maybe. It's time we have we do a little
pee, pee and poo. Poo break.
Yeah, I don't know if I could doit like a handsome Kevin thing,
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You can imagine Tony Storms. She's saying it to like her
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Like is she lesbian? No, she, she.
No, she's, is she married? I think she's married to Juice.
I know she's banging them. She's married.
Really. Juice Robinson, Yeah.

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He likes them big Hineys. Can you blame them?
No, not at all. She likes those big beards.
Hopefully he will grow his back.Oh is he a clean shaven fella
now? He when he came back he was
clean shaven. It just, I don't know it it
didn't work. Some people need beards, yeah.

(01:03:38):
Yes. Yeah, so anyways, WWE, right?
Yeah, well, I mean Double T is not with us tonight because he's
at MSG. Yeah.
Waiting for the final the final Raw match of John Cena's career,
I guess. Yeah, that would be the final.
He's got 3 left I think this Survivor Series and so.

(01:04:01):
This is this is his final Raw match.
Does that mean he's not going toappear on any more Raws or no?
I thought they said it was. Let me see.
I thought they said this was he only had three left.
Let me see. Yeah, 3 pyramids left.
One will be at Madison Square Garden.

(01:04:25):
Did you say 3? Did you say 3 appearments left?
I probably did 3 pyramids soundslike a Christmas song.
So yeah, they it's confirmed. Yeah, just those three, which is
kind of weird. Yeah, so who does he wrestle in

(01:04:48):
the meantime at Survivor Series,right?
It's possible. They're still building the the
Survivor Series team, so it's possible maybe he hops his way
onto that one. It's just so weird, right?
Like they got this tournament going on and then we're going
into Survivor Series. And he's IC champion also.

(01:05:09):
Yeah, Hey, so are they. Building up a men's Survivor
Series match at this point. Yeah, so it's right now it's the
Usos, Cody and Punk, and they'regoing against the Bronsons, Drew
McIntyre and Logan Paul. So they got to add two more to

(01:05:34):
that. Match one.
Yeah, one on each side. And I heard Charlotte Flair
doesn't want to be with Alexa Bliss on her team.
She walked out. Oh, yeah.
So now the women's, the women's one.
Let me see. I had I had it up before.
Maybe I don't. Oh, it was.
Yeah, it was. Lash Legend, NIA Jax, Kyrie

(01:05:57):
Singh, Oscar and then the other team is just Ria Ripley, Alexa
Bliss and EO Sky right now, yeah.
You think Charlotte changes her mind.
You think like? It's possible.
Maybe Alexa Bliss helps her change their mind.

(01:06:18):
Yeah, maybe they maybe they go into the match 5 on 4 because
they can't get a fifth person. Well, there's only four.
Four of them right now. Yeah, but I mean, I'm assuming
it's going to be 5 on 5, right? Doesn't say anything about that.
I mean, who else do you add intothat Afterwards?
You'd have to add like a total another feud, I would think.

(01:06:48):
I know, I'm with you. This is another one.
It feels kind of forced. It's like they realize, Oh yeah,
we got to start building towardsSurvivor War Games 'cause there
was no, there was no real build.And I mean, there were people
feuding, but they didn't announce anything for it until
last week. Yeah.

(01:07:09):
And it's another one where, you know, Survivor Series.
Survivor Series is no longer theteams.
It's now it's war, Survivor Series, war games.
So you know they're going to do a war games that Survivor
Series, Yeah. Yeah, Yep.
So, and I miss the Survivor Series teams.
I, I say it every year, a brokenrecord, but I absolutely used to

(01:07:31):
love like the mishmash of Survivor Series teams.
Just a camaraderie of like theserandom guys face against other
people that they hated randomly so much, so good.
Yeah, I don't. I'm at the point where I don't
know if it's more of just a nostalgia thing where like I

(01:07:51):
don't necessarily miss the matchitself, but I do miss like the
baby faces and the heels being able to come together and like
form teams, you know what I'm saying?
Like there was something like simply yet.
Magical about like, you know, the first, the first Survivor
Series, you know what I'm saying?
Like like it was Team Hogan, Team Andre.
But all those guys on those teams, they were fucking names,

(01:08:14):
man. Like they were names that you
that like it's your childhood. You knew who they all were and
you know what they stood for, and these guys are the bad guys.
We're going to. Boo them and you know.
And it was easier to get teams together, too back then because,
you know, Andre's team was basically all the, the Heenan
family. Yeah.
Or, you know, Jimmy Hart would have a team, Slick would have a
team, Fuji, like all these guys.But you don't have that anymore,

(01:08:39):
unfortunately. And I mean Heenan had Andre
Bundy and stud like. How do you get to be more of a
fucking? Masochistic team than that, you
know. Seriously.
Yeah, that's true. And Rick Rude on that one too.
He was managing Rude then. He was managing rude and then I
think the only other the only other guy was what's?
His name? Which Reed?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was the.

(01:09:00):
And that was Slickster. Yeah, but what other guy on that
roster would you put? With the Heenan family that
wasn't in the Heenan family, it made sense, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's good stuff.
Yeah, man. Yeah.
So did you watch any of any of this last week?
I I really I didn't. I know Cena won.

(01:09:23):
He's the new IC champ. Like he's about it.
I mean, we, I think we announcedthat last week on the show,
didn't. We Yeah, yeah.
That when that happened while the show was going on.
I don't, I don't know. I mean, we got we got a special
surprise on Friday. One of the mystery guys was was
Zack Ryder. Oh yeah, fucking time is now.

(01:09:45):
Tournament or whatever they. Call it not Matt Cardona, Zack
Ryder. You know what, though?
But they've. They've done that like.
Yeah. It's been done, whatever.
And now they can sell Matt Zack Ryder merchandise.
Did I? I think I sent a picture to the
group. Chelsea Green was on like the
fox, Good Morning Show. Like one day last week, yeah.

(01:10:06):
And it was kind of neat because while she was.
Sitting there they had like 2 pedestals, 1 had the US
Championship and one had the themixed tag title from and she put
over, she put over Ethan Page and how he was like the North
American champion and they were the tag champs and stuff.
Like she was really cool and my wife digs her too.
Like we were watching it together and she was like, yeah,

(01:10:27):
I'm like, yeah, that's Chelsea Green.
You saw her. You.
I'm like, they showed the footage of her during the
celebration where she's dressed like the like, Lady Liberty and
stuff. So she's awesome.
She really is. She's fantastic, she really has
been and she, I feel like everything she's ever done has
been knocked out of the park, like from way back in her TNA
days as a. My God, Laurel Van Ness.

(01:10:49):
Yeah, Laurel Van Ness. The whole, The whole.
Fucking the whole hot mess, Oh my God, so good.
My favorite thing ever in TNA and my second favorite thing
might have been when LAX was there, when they were feuding
with LAX, when they fucking rip the ring apart and we're just
fucking slamming each other on the boards and shit.

(01:11:11):
Oh gosh, oh man, I love that shit.
So she had that one or two weeksand it's memorable in Lucha
Underground. You ever see when she fought
Penta? No, but I I remember that she
did, yeah. Yeah, she and when Penta came
back, actually somebody mentioned I think it might have
been when she was on Van Bleed or something like that.

(01:11:32):
She's like, oh, Penta's back, are you going to have another
match with him? She's like, no, no, I'm still
feeling the effects of that one.So yeah.
Good old Chelsea Green yeah. So was there any other
highlights that we missed from the from the last week in WWE
like I. Don't know Nikki Bella turned on

(01:11:53):
vecour. Another who gives a shit moment.
Yep, I don't care anything aboutNikki Bella.
Yeah, me neither. She can't her her in the rain
like like you want to say, oh, she's a legend, she's the Hall
of Fame or whatever, whatever, whatever.
And but honestly like. She's not holding a candle to
like what's going on nowadays. Like Trish Stratus can get in

(01:12:13):
the ring and she can handle herself.
You know what I'm saying? When they bring Lita back, Lita
can handle herself. Yeah, Nikki Bell.
It's so it's so funny. Like you had in that beginning,
like late 90s, early 2000s, you had Trish Lita, but then you
also had Molly Holly, you had Ivory, you had Victoria,

(01:12:35):
eventually Beth Phoenix, like all these people that were
great. And then it just, it fell apart
for a bunch of years. It just became.
It became the Divas. Yep.
That was a Divas error. And then maybe you got, maybe
you got a page thrown in or an AJ Lee thrown in.
Natalia was always there. Yeah.
But like really other than that it was like.

(01:12:56):
You're they didn't have foxes, didn't do anything.
You're Alicia Foxes and your Gillian Halls and like, wasn't
that still when they were like they were pushing Stacy Keibler
and all that? They were.
Still on Kelly Kelly, Kelly. Yep.
You know, Michelle Mccool, I mean lay cool like had its
moments, but it was more, it wasmore the Layla L and not the
Mccool part, you know what I'm saying?

(01:13:17):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I tuned into that
second. I wanted, I think it was the
second season NXTI tuned into that when they were Loki's
veterans or whatever, when they were just doing the veteran
thing. I tuned in just for that because
they were on that. It was just as entertaining.

(01:13:38):
It's a shame man, they brought low key in.
He was just never going to work in WWE.
Never. No, it wasn't going to happen.
Yeah, it wasn't going to happen anywhere.
When he fucking he knocked out like so many people like that
one duty knocked out in a Ring of Honor and then he fucking
tried to pick him up and do morespots with him.
It's like. Oh, was that Moff?
Or no, it wasn't Moff. It was.

(01:13:58):
It was some. It was some other special.
K guy, right? I think so.
I was, I think it was. I was front row for that one.
But I mean, you knocked the motherfucker out.
Just drag him in and pin him it's over.
Or just tell the referee, fucking call it, you know what
I'm saying? Like damn, that would have been
a. Statement he fucking knocked
some dummy out in MLW it was it was somebody that was with

(01:14:20):
Selena de la Renta he fucking kicked and that dude was out and
they just dragged him out and even Selena when.
She was on the show. She's like bro.
And the dude that was her sicario had to wrestle.
The fucking match without him. Oh.
Jeez. Listen, you knock somebody out,
that's it. Fucking call it.
It is what it is. Whether it was meant to happen

(01:14:42):
or not, it's done. Yeah, it's done.
Very true. So WWE also signed former TNA
champion in the big surprise of the week.
You know Joe Hendry is apparently now officially signed
to. There you go.
No, no. No sign to a contractor.

(01:15:05):
That was like one of the worst EP secrets of the past couple of
years, you know? Oh yeah, that's up there with
Jordan Grace signing. My concern though, and I know
Double T said it, is Joe Hendry just J USO, is he just an
entrance? In in NXT he's not even an

(01:15:27):
entrance. Or at least I I try and catch
NXTI watch at least some of it every week.
Yeah, it's always something goofy.
Yeah, he's not even an entrance anymore.
Somebody says his name and he appears out of a trash can or a
refrigerator or something else. Like he's, I mean, maybe it's
entertaining, but it feels like they're just not taking

(01:15:50):
advantage because he's he's pretty good.
He's a good wrestler. Well.
Double T would disagree with that, but you know, I, I agree.
I think he's just, you know, fine, but he's one of those
gimmicks where I don't think it's going to play on the big
roster. You know, like, I don't think
it's going to play, you know, like, it was cool seeing him in
WrestleMania. I loved it.

(01:16:10):
The crowd loved it. Randy Orton loved it.
But you know what I'm saying? Like, like what's he going to
do, just fucking pop out of everything at ringside?
Yeah, eventually he's got to wrestle.
Yeah, they got to let him wrestle.
Yeah. Yeah, also true.
I don't know. But wasn't he?
Wasn't he involved with some shit now with?

(01:16:32):
He had one of the girls like, like being like.
Like him, Thea Hale? Yeah.
So aren't they going to be feuding with, what's her name,
Chelsea? Chelsea and yeah they've got a
upcoming match. I think it's stern NXT gold rush
yeah, it's the second week or the first week.
First week of gold rush so tomorrow actually.

(01:16:55):
Chelsea Green and Ethan Page against Hendry and Hale for the
mixed tag team titles AAA They're.
They're going to wind up not winning that.
Right. No, no, I would.
I, I mean, why would you take itoff of Ethan and Chelsea, right?
Now, yeah. They're just too good of a pair.

(01:17:18):
So Carmelo Hayes, is he floppingon the main roster at this point
or is he still paying his dues, if that's what they're calling
it like? It's hard to say because he's
been up there for about a year, right?
I think at this point, or at least it feels like a year.
Yeah, I don't know, because I'm seeing, I'm seeing he's got a
match against Bronson Reed in this final John Cena shit too.

(01:17:41):
Not a chance. But but that's what I mean, like
we're just, he's just the sacrificial lamb at this point.
Yeah, I mean, I I hate them is Ireally hate and the fact that
like he was with the Mez for a while kind of turned me off of
him. I think it in the Miz anything
like that you. Don't like Melo can't Miz I

(01:18:02):
don't like or Melo won't Miz or whatever the fuck it was.
Melo flopped Miz or whatever well.
We could be seeing more Carmelo Hayes come New Year's because
Smackdown's going back to three.Hours.
Oh my God, just what we need. Fuck are they doing?
Yeah, that they it didn't work the first time.

(01:18:24):
Don't. Don't do it again.
And what is it on? It's on USA now, isn't it?
Yeah. Fridays 8:00 on USA.
So they apparently they need more revenue because they ain't
selling fucking tickets. Yeah, we should have double T if
Ross even sold out tonight. I would assume, I mean I don't

(01:18:45):
think we talked about it, but I think tickets for John Cena's
final match when they actually went on sale, a lot of the
people that were in the queue decided not to buy tickets
because the cheapest ticket in the house was 500 bucks.
Jeez 500 for the cheapest and ringside I think was clocking in
at 11 K for Primo ringside on camera.

(01:19:07):
Yeah, it's going to get us. People can't afford this shit.
Meanwhile, from what I understand.
Blood and guts, 50 bucks ringside.
No, no way. That's what I heard, that's what
I can't confirm. The the the the WWE prices for
sure 100% has been reported. Well.

(01:19:29):
So even if it even. If it was $200 at ringside for.
Aew, yeah, that's that I would believe.
Yeah, that's not bad. There's nothing.
Yeah, well, somebody else's retirement tour sold out.
Who's that Tanahashi? They sold out the everything
they got at the Dome. Good for them.
Over 30,000. They're going to release more

(01:19:51):
seats afterwards too. Which makes me wonder whether or
not the fucking Young Bucks and some of these other guys are
going to try to shoehorn their way onto that show.
I. Wouldn't put it past.
Them. I wouldn't put it past.
Surprise me, but there's probably still some bad blood
there. Wouldn't surprise me either.
Yeah, but you've but you've got.Okada headlining your show, and

(01:20:11):
Okada's not New Japan anymore, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, Yeah, that's true. So, you know, I mean, New Japan
needs the fucking ducats at thispoint.
Their business has been down. I think if New Japan still did
two nights that you could see the Bucks getting on there.
But the fact that it's one night, you know, that's a lot of
guys to get on one card. Yeah, but they do it.

(01:20:34):
They do what fucking AW does. They'll load up fucking 16
matches. Yeah, is the Is the Randbo still
a? Thing that maybe they I hold
themselves. Rando that's that was always my
favorite. How many years?
Did fucking Yano win that thing?A.
Lot of years that's right that was the king of pro title that
he would always win yeah yeah loved it I.

(01:20:57):
Remember. Random Scott Norton appearance
or Haku or somebody? Yeah, they they did that.
Shit, when they were like the one of them look like a fucking
high school gym and they were fucking wrestling on the stage
for that fucking thing. It's.
Good shit. I mean like I I just haven't
watched New Japan forever. Like like the heydays been
behind it. Hopefully this kind of sparks

(01:21:19):
something, but I think this might just be a one time thing
for Tanahashi. Yeah, I mean, I haven't watched
in a long time too, but I hear alot of good things about, you
know, like what Suji's doing at the top of the card.
So hopefully, I mean hopefully they it'll give more guys a
chance to work and make money. So hopefully they can pick it up

(01:21:40):
again. Hope so.
Hope so. Yeah, well, that's our new.
Japan talk for the evening. Yeah, that's great that Matt
wasn't here for it too. Too bad, Matt, you missed out.
You want to go be there for JohnCena?
I bet you don't even see him. I don't know we.
Covered AEW. I'm just trying to see, you

(01:22:02):
know? TNA.
I mean, yeah, you. Got fucked.
Yeah. Yeah, I was not expecting to
wake up Friday morning to a new TNA heavyweight champion.
They did Santana dirty. They really fucking did.
Which which begs the question, was this?

(01:22:23):
Was this a hotshot? Because maybe Santana's going to
NXT permanently. You think so?
I don't know because didn't partof the reason why he lost is
because NXT attacked them though?
Or was I wrong? Right.
Or was that? Was that it?
I don't know who the fuck attacked him.
I have no. Idea.
I know NXT was there. I remember seeing like the the

(01:22:45):
picture of all the all the guys there and everything.
Let me see. Yeah, but Santana got got beat
up and then Kazarian fucking cashed in and there you.
Go. That's right.
Yeah. Right after he beats up Ryan
Nemeth. Yeah, 9 Nemeth.
Yeah, the NXT wrestlers. And then Kasarian cashes in the

(01:23:09):
6th Grand Slam champion in NXT history.
So I like. I like Kazarian too, but.
Yeah, but they they almost did the same thing with Josh
Alexander, right? Like this one.
They actually. Waited a week before they did
it. And that was recent history too,
man. That's right.
Alexander won it. And then Moose cashed in right

(01:23:29):
away. But then they went back to it.
Yeah. And.
Then when Alexander won, then hefucking wound up getting hurt,
didn't he? No, he was champ for he was
champ for a while. They gave he had a good run.
He eventually did get hurt and had to lose the title but he had
he had a pretty good run there. It just feels like they missed

(01:23:50):
the boat, especially like I thiswould feel less like less like a
kick in the balls if they actually put at the title at him
over the summer at in Long Island instead of just waiting.
But I mean, if we're ready for it.
Yeah, but if you're going to wait, like give the guy a

(01:24:10):
chance, you know, like give him a, give him a month or two if
you don't want to keep it on him.
And like I said, they didn't even have freaking TV for three
weeks. It was nothing, nothing.
Highlight show. And then one show he's champion,
and then this. Whoops.
Yeah, fucking terrible. Awful.

(01:24:31):
So I don't know is there anything else TNA like TNA none?
I think that nails it. Good, right in the keys there.
Hey, you had a game you wanted to play, didn't?
You I certainly do have a game, so I think HK had a name for it
and I can't remember now, of course.

(01:24:53):
So basically what this game is is I'm going to pick a Random
House show from either. Oh, this fucking.
Yeah, yeah, WWE. Well, I'll, I'll explain it for
the listeners. So I'll pick a Random House show
from either WWFWCW or ECW. One of the things I won't do is

(01:25:16):
I won't pick a show where there's two, you know, where
they have like split crews. Because what you're going to do
is try and guess all the wrestlers that are on it on this
show. I'll give you the date.
One thing. If there's tag teams, you have
to name both guys. So you can't just say like the

(01:25:38):
powers of Pain and you won't getboth of them.
You have to name which ones, andyou don't have to name like the
seconds, like no managers or anything.
Unless just just wrestlers who participated on the call.
Just wrestlers who were. On Wrestled right Now.
So you ready? I'm not ready, but I'm I'll

(01:25:59):
play. All right, all right.
So the first card I have ready. Oh wait, we're doing more than
one. Holy shit.
Well, no, no, I I only have one so.
OK, all right, so I have from June 6th, 1993 AWWF house show.

(01:26:20):
You got to think of wrestlers who were in.
What was the year? 1993, June. 6th.
Yep. June 6th, 1993.
Well, and this is a house show. This is a house, yeah.
And you said like it doesn't matter.
Well, I mean 1993 they wouldn't have A or B house shows at this

(01:26:42):
point, right? Because.
Business. No, I don't think they did at
this point, Yeah. So June 1993.
Oh gosh. So wait a minute, so so this
would have been after WrestleMania 9, so Hogan would

(01:27:02):
have still been champion. At this point.
Yeah, this is before King of theRing.
Yeah, but I don't know if Hogan would have been on a house show.
I think he was probably floatingaround Japan at this point, so
I'm not going to say Hogan was. You're looking funny, though.
Like maybe Hogan was on the show.
Wait, where did the show take? Place let's let's start with
that. Oh.
Fuck, you know, that's the one thing I should have.

(01:27:27):
I would I would look it up. But it would, it would fucking
give me the whole rundown of thecar.
No. Oh yeah, that's true. 6th.
I mean if you can. Find it.
I'll find it, yeah. Do you remember where King of
the Ring was that year? Can you at least give me those
stats? Because then maybe we can narrow
down like around what area of the country it might have been
in. So this happened.

(01:27:47):
It was in Albany New. York, Oh, this is an Albany
show. Oh God.
Yep. That's fucking old school WWF
right there. Yeah, 1993.
OK, so I'm going to. Say I don't think it was above.
Yokozuna to Workhouse show. So let's start with Yoko.
Was he on the show? Yokozuna was on this show.

(01:28:09):
All right, so we got Yoko. Ding, Ding, Ding.
Because it's around. King of the Ring time.
I'm going to say Brett was on the show.
He's not. Nope.
No Brett Hart. Wow, so I lose already huh?
Does that mean I lose? Yeah, that would be well, if we

(01:28:29):
did it with all of us that wouldmeet.
I would want to do this as a like a round Robin thing.
Oh, so if you miss when you're out?
Yeah, yeah. I guess I'm out.
I suck. Are we talking do?
You want to keep it? Do you want to keep going?
Yeah. I want to keep going.
How many matches can you give me?
How many matches are on the card?
Let me see the six the breakdown.

(01:28:50):
I I broke it down to like I did like a little spreadsheet of it.
OK, let me see. So that's all right if you don't
know. No, no, I got it.
I got it right back up. 123-4567matches.
Yoko would have had to have worked someone.

(01:29:13):
Huh. Who else was around in 93?
I miss the house show. It was a pretty random show.
Was Mr. Perfect Wrestler at thatpoint?
There was no Mr. Perfect on thatone.

(01:29:34):
Wow. How about Bow and Blake Beverly?
No Beverly brothers either. Oh my.
God, I'm I might be thinking toofar ahead.
Who else was around? Was Owen hard on the thing?
Yes, he was. Fucking Owen.
There we go. How about the smoking guns,
Billy and Bart? No smoking guns.
Are we getting a? Spark plug Holly or a Thurman

(01:29:56):
sparky plug? No Thurman sparky plug either.
Wow, How about a Freddie Joe Floyd?
Oh, that's way too early. Yeah, I was.
Gonna Freddie Joe Floyd was still in.
How about a Marty Ginnetti or a Shawn Michaels?
Shawn, Michael, you got them both?
Both. Were really on.
That show? Yep.

(01:30:20):
Was Savio Vega or Quang around at this point?
No, no, Savio, I think Quang wasa year later.
How about a Mountie? Nope, no, Mountie, it's got to
be harder than I thought. How about a Jean Pierre Lafitte?

(01:30:41):
No, no, Jean. Pierre, men on a mission, Moe
and Mabel. Nope, I think it's too early for
them, right? I know, I know.
I'm trying to think of who was around in 93.
Yeah, even the smoking guns. Oh, Jeff Jarrett.
No, Jeff Jarrett? Really.
Yeah. No Roadie, no Razor Ramon. 93

(01:31:01):
It's early, no right? Oh yeah, WrestleMania 10 was
when we got fucking. Yeah.
Who else is on WrestleMania? 9 Tito Santana, the Matador no
Tito Tatanka. Bingo, got Tatanka.
All right, Tatanka, how about a Luna Vashon?

(01:31:22):
A Luna Vashon. What did wrestle on this one?
That's the one I thought you'd never get to so.
She needs a partner to tango. With but I don't know if Sherry
was wrestling at that point. How?
About Ted Dibiase. Ted Dibiase was on this show.
So Ted Dibiase was there, I'm thinking IRS.
IRS was on this show. So they were probably the tag
champs at this point. Where they Yeah, yeah, that's

(01:31:43):
right. They.
Were how about Brutus the Barber?
Beefcake, he sure was. See, now I'm getting it.
Now I'm realizing what the timing was I I should have.
Thought about it more before I started ripping them off.
Yep. So was Hogan on the show?
Hogan was on the show. Hogan was on this.
God damn it. That was the main event Money
Inc against. Against Hogan and Beef, Yeah.
Who did Yoko wrestle? You want me to just say there's

(01:32:06):
only a couple more guys? Oh no.
No, no, no, no, no. Let me, because I'm trying to
think about who else was on wrestling.
How about Crush Kona? Crush.
No Kona. Crush, no Kona Crush I would
have thought was. He hurt at this point I think.
Or did Doink hurt him? Oh, so Doink was on the show?
No, no, Doink was not. But I'm thinking no, I'm
thinking the Kona Crush timelineand.

(01:32:28):
No Tito and no Beverly's. Nope.
Who else? Who else was around Rick Martel?
No, Rick Martel. Fuck.
There's there's two on here thatI'll be very surprised.
If I get them, yeah. How about the Steiners, Rick and
Scott? No Steiners actually.
Head Shrinkers, Fat 2 and Sammu.Nope.

(01:32:50):
Really. Yep.
Huh. What?
Neither one. Wait, what'd you say?
What? There was a split card on this
one. You motherfucker.
So who was on the other card? Oh.
Man, you know. Let's finish this start.

(01:33:11):
Let's finish this one off. Who else?
Who was I missing on this card? So Yoko faced Jim Duggan.
Oh fuck me all. Right, yeah, Luna faced Sherry.
You did say. Sherry was on there, OK.
Shawn Michaels beat Marty Janetti.
You said Both of them. Yeah.
Owen Hart. Skinner.

(01:33:34):
No, let me see. Look, the borga.
Oh, the Narcissus. No, he's on the other one.
Owen Hart beat Terry Taylor. Oh, the.
The fucking made man of the 90s.Yep, and then you got Tatanka

(01:33:57):
beating Bam Bam Bigelow. Fuck bam bam.
And Papa Shango defeats Big Jim Powers.
Oh God. Yep.
God, So who's? Oh yeah, DBRC and IRS were the
main event. Yeah.
OK, so who was on the other cardand where was it?
So the other card, let me see. I'm not writing that down.

(01:34:20):
Orlando, FL. Oh, this is going to be all the
fucking Tampa guys. Yep, surprise Hogan didn't work
this show. So you got Oh my God, so you got
El Matador. He defeats the Brooklyn Brawler
all. Right, so Tito was there.

(01:34:41):
Yeah, Razor was there. Razor was there.
Who else one of the Steiners wasthere.
Was it Rick? Rick Steiner.
Who did you wrestle? They wrestled the head
shrinkers. Wait, who's they?
Not, not Scott. Wait, so who did Rick team up
with? Bob Backlund.

(01:35:03):
Oh my God, HK got a boner somewhere.
Yeah, he does. And then Lugar and Bret Hart in
the main event. Fucking hell and doing good
dude, dude, dude. I got to do my homework better
on this. Holy shit.

(01:35:25):
And then the bet. Probably the best match of all
of it, the Bushwhackers and Tiger Jackson.
Not yet. Dink versus or defeats Blake
Beverly, Damian D'amonto and Little John.
Oh my God. So yeah, this could be fun if I

(01:35:47):
actually. It's a work.
It's a work in progress. It's a work in progress.
Yeah, I think I just found a better site to pull it off of
too. That's awesome.
So yeah, good stuff. I I might have a 13 or less if

(01:36:10):
you want. To play it, but I had one last
week. I just.
I just don't know how. Yeah, there's there's a couple
of them. All right, Yeah.
You know what? Let's do this.
Fuck it. Let's do this.
We got time before we get to homework.
So you remember the rules. I'm going to give you 8 clues.
You're going to have 13 or less fucking guesses to try to get
them. You were awesome at it last.

(01:36:31):
Well, actually, HK was awesome at it last time.
I'm going to see if I could do the same thing with you.
Although one of them I don't. Yeah, you know what?
I think, I think I could work through it all right.
So whenever you're ready, you ready to go.
I am ready to roll. OK, brother.

(01:36:52):
Hulk Hogan. That's.
One chief strong boat, Tribal, Roman Reigns.
That's 2 list, Jericho. Yes, nice.

(01:37:13):
That's three start ring bell. Yes.
Nice. Cactus Jack name Mick Foley.

(01:37:38):
Yes, thank you. Penelope.
Oh fuck. Oh.
Damn it. I think we're up to 8 clues.

(01:38:00):
Cruz. Man.
Max Payne. Miro.
Oh, Rousseff or Kip Sabian, yes.Holy shit.

(01:38:32):
There it is. All right, good.
I got 4 clues left for the last two throat.
Sleeper grab, choke, chokeslam, Undertaker grip.

(01:39:09):
Throttle. No Goozle.
Oh, we got 6 out of eight the last one.
The last one. I'll give you a clue.
I don't know how to do it with if I could try to get it one
try. Fuck, this is tough because I I
keep there's not one clue. I don't think that'll give it
away. Oh discus.

(01:39:32):
Carrie von Erich. Fucking A Yeah, All right, all
right. I I was thinking of first I was
like, foot, no, he's going to say Kamala.
Then I was thinking suicide. He couldn't think of anybody.
Yeah, he could have said like. Iron Claw Claw could have been
like Fritz. It could have been.
Yeah, it could have been too many options.

(01:39:54):
Yeah. Oh, you did good, man.
You did good. Google's tough.
Kip Sabian was a tough one, Yeah.
Like it was hard because I was like Penelope.
And then it was like, I was hoping maybe like if you would
have said Ford, then I could have said, I like when I say,
man, I could have said partner, but that's like.
Early on, I don't know any otherthing to say.
With Kip and then Miro was like my last shot.

(01:40:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. But you got it.
You got there. You.
Got there. That is a fun.
Game. I love that one.
I love that one. That's a really good one.
What was the one you were like you didn't expect me to get?
A what? Goozle.
No, the other. Keep Sabian was the one I wasn't
expecting you to get. Goozle, I thought you would have
got. I thought there was one earlier

(01:40:34):
where you were like, wow. Oh, wait a minute.
You know what? Let me pull up the list.
Let me see, because I have them all here.
Did you do? Oh, Daniel Garcia.
No. Because I didn't give you the.
Clues. Double T gave you the clues.
That's right. No, no, I meant tonight there
was 1. Yeah, that was that was it was
Kip Sabian. Yeah.

(01:40:56):
That was the one and ring bell bro you got off the top.
I was like, what? That was the one, yeah.
Yeah, start because with Double TI didn't realize at first.
Like I thought it was just goingto be all wrestling names.
I didn't really. So when he he was doing like the
entrance or something like that.Bro when I said horse and Kevin

(01:41:16):
got fucking. Aubrey Edwards I was like, bro.
Oh, that was good shit. He.
Did good man. He got it.
And 9 clues, Yeah, that was a fucking.
He had a hell of a run. He had a hell.
Of a run? Hell yeah.
Speaking of runs, what do you think of the homework bro?

(01:41:39):
If I had more thumbs to give up for this thing, I would.
I loved it. I loved, loved.
Every second of this. Lou Dark Shaytan defending the
XPW Women's Championship againstMickey Knuckles.
XPW deathmatch XPW Drive in Massacre from the Heart
Ballroom, the fucking greatest location for wrestling outside
of the fucking Mecca. November 25th, 2 years ago as a

(01:42:03):
matter. Of fact, we're coming up on the
2nd anniversary of this show next week.
That's right, yeah. This one I had in the hopper, it
was one of the ones where I was always like AB or C that never
got picked. And I just had it there and I
was so aggravated last week and I was like, you know what, We're
fucking just, we're going for the gusto.
And isn't it funny that it worked out that way because HK

(01:42:24):
is not here tonight. So I get the feeling the streak
is going to. Continue a fucking good matches.
I think so, so I'm interested tothink hear what either him or
Matt would have to. No, fuck.
Damn, they missed out. They weren't here tonight.
Tough, tough titties on. That oh, no, it's, it's still
the streak. I'm just saying, you know, after

(01:42:45):
the streak continues, yeah. Fuck them streak like in my
drawers anyway. Like bad.
You know what? Like.
The beginning of it was Goofy. It was Larry Legend's birthday,
so Mickey Knuckles kind of did adance for him and he got the
fucking motorboat and they ripped his shirt open and shit
and. That was a lot of.

(01:43:05):
Fun, not going to lie. Like it was goofy and it was
stupid. I'm like, why the fuck are they
doing this? And I'm like, because this is
fucking funny, you know? Yeah, She sang happy birthday
like. Very legend at that point.
Like Marilyn Monroe, dude. I hate to say it because it's
supposed to be like fucking hardcore deathmatch.

(01:43:26):
Like these women want to murder each other.
Mickey Knuckles man. She could turn that shit on
dude. I've you know what?
I I think she missed her calling.
I I think she missed her calling.
I'm not saying she needed an OF,but dare I say Mickey Knuckles
sex symbol 100% and you can write that down.

(01:43:49):
I don't give a fuck. That might be the title of the
episode. I fucking said it.
I mean, I've all you got to do is follow her on Instagram and
she puts on, well, no, she always puts up like, oh, send me
an anonymous message and some ofthe messages she gets are just

(01:44:10):
off the fucking wall. It's constantly like stuff like
hey, you want to get fucked or stuff like that.
Well she always tells me why thefight in her fucking to one or
the other. That's right, Either way, it's
going to hurt. I think, I think I'd rather
fight at that point because I don't know.
I don't know what her idea fucking is, dude.

(01:44:31):
I honestly don't know. And I don't think, I don't even
think you could go 6-7 at that point because I don't know if
it's column A, column B, to be honest with you.
I don't know anybody that survived that.
I don't know. You read her book, you find out
a few people. Really.
Yeah. Fuck, you got her book.

(01:44:54):
Yeah, I do. I'll let it see you.
I don't even. I'll fucking buy it if it's
still out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you can get
it right off of Amazon. Oh fucking I got to write this
down now because I'll forget I'mgetting old.
It was a great read. It it was, I mean, it was sad.
It was definitely sad at times because of some of the shit she
went through growing up and. Oh, I know.

(01:45:15):
Rotten and everything but. Well, even Ron was like a
scumbag. He he, well, he's still alive,
so he is a scumbag. No, he still is for.
Sure. For sure, this definitely paints
him. If you didn't already know.
This paints him in a shitty picture.
Shittier picture. He's not a complete asshole.
Not like he really needed that, to be honest.
Yeah, very true. But yeah, she came on the on top

(01:45:37):
of it, so. Oh yeah, yeah, I know.
That was that was that was in poor taste, but you got to you
got to jump on those when they happen.
Oh yeah, of course. So yeah, so there was a lot of
goofy. So it was like the the the the
thing was. 30 was 30 minutes on YouTube.
It really was not a 30 minute match, but.

(01:45:57):
It was just so weird. Because the two of them, like
Ludark and and Mickey were getting along the whole time and
like, you know, like this whole thing for what's his name for
Larry Legend and. They were like pals.
And the next thing you know, at one point Ludark just fucking
runs in the corner and that sunset flip into the fucking
glass. Gosh, yes, I love like I love
death matches. I love when they, when they

(01:46:18):
start like that, just like rightoff the right off the bat, just
something huge happens. It's a blast.
But you know what else I like too?
They settled in for a while. Yes.
They settled in for a while there.
There was a little bit of this and that here and there, but it
wasn't a lot. It wasn't like they were just
beating the shit out of each other.

(01:46:40):
That came later. That came later as we started
building toward the end of the match.
But still, man. Like there was one point when
they were on the outside and Mickey just kind of lit up and
her eyes came out of her head and then she.
Just fucked up blue dark for about a minute or so and then we
rested and then she came out of it and.
She was like OK, we're good, we're good.
And then she fucks with the people in the crowd bro.

(01:47:02):
I didn't know who was on commentary for a while.
Me. Too.
Yeah. And then it was like she got hit
in the cunt or whatever, he saidat one point.
And then I saw them when they panned, I said Jesus Christ,
it's Schlack. No wonder this fucking guy's out
of his mind. Oh my God, like it bothered me
at first because I was like who is this fucking job or doing

(01:47:23):
this annoying voice and everything and then I see it's
schlack. I'm like, oh, OK, this is great
now. Oh yeah, now it's great.
But. It that is slack.
But but the shit. Like commentary will bother me
when it's cursing just to like, you know, to put emphasis like
when it's not like a if it's nota genuine holy shit.

(01:47:43):
And I don't like when WWE does that really.
But like on commentary like I don't like when they resort to
cursing. But this is XPW and this is all
fucking like for the most part death matches.
And I love when Necro was like talking shit last time we
covered something for XPWI thinkit was look what you made me do

(01:48:05):
and he who The Who the fuck was wrestling?
He shit all over the guy. It might have been.
Schlack. It might have been Schlack.
And he's like, and I'm only shitting on him because he's
wrestling and I'm over here and he can't hear me, but it was
fucking great. He was like, Oh no, he was
shitting on fucking, what's his name, Masada.
Oh yeah. Yeah, piece of shit.
He can't even fucking work. He's like, he fucking sucks.

(01:48:26):
The whole. Time, but it made sense because
it was necro. So like when I realized I was
like the same boat as you and I realized it was schlack, I was
like OK, this isn't just some asshole trying to make a name
for himself. This is genuinely Schlack being
Schlack. Yeah, this is.
No matter what. It almost gets a pass.
You know it has to. It has to.

(01:48:51):
I like when they fucking pulled out this the Star of David at
one point. Yes, somebody had taped the
fucking put the light tubes together in the Star David.
Yeah, she got that from the crowd.
And I think that I think that was where the fucking privates
kick came in. Was it?
You know, and I tried, I tried, I tried finding pictures of

(01:49:12):
Ludarc without her mask. Couldn't find any.
Although she's got no problems tipping her mask back to fucking
chug another beer. Smoke a joint.
Oh, so I'm sure she was feeling no pain during this match.
No, none at all. So here's the other.
Thing the the with the gussets in the asshole off.
Oh, and she's fucking. She was even head.

(01:49:32):
Butting him on her right wasn't.She yeah, yeah.
That like. Mickey, don't she, don't, she
just don't fucking give a shit. She's like, whatever.
Nope. Yeah, she going to mess up that
money maker man. I still don't like when she does
that shit. I mean, after, you know, Gus is
the yeah, she's been wrestling like this for years.
I think she's I think her ass isinvulnerable at this point.

(01:49:54):
She's got the, I wouldn't say impenetrable, but it's
definitely invulnerable. I'll write that one down.
She probably expects that shit too, right?
She's probably just like, yeah. Whatever.
Here it is, boys. Have at it.
A joke because it's true. Yeah.
What do you think of the finish?That's that was not good.

(01:50:23):
Oh man, neither one of them werepinned.
To be neither one of them and they didn't go through the table
and everybody was kind of confused that it happened and
you know. It really took away from, dare I
say, an otherwise entertaining match.
Yeah, yeah, it did. And Larry Legend shits all over
the referee right afterwards too, for the whole time, as he

(01:50:46):
should. Welcome.
Yeah, oh man, but then they loveeach other again at the.
End. That's what's so weird, right?
Like the, like the like, Ludarchis holding up the belt and then
she's trying to put it around Mickey's waist, and then she
realized it doesn't fit. Not around her ass, that's for
sure. That's fucking disappointing,
though. It's like, it's like we get it
and and Mickey's a bigger gal, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe

(01:51:09):
just put it over her shoulder, you know, you.
Know what I'm saying? Like I know Mickey don't give a
fuck. But it's for the visual.
It's just kind of like, you know?
Just give her the belt. Hold her arm up, bow to her,
whatever fucking other stupid shit you want to do.
Smoke your joints together. Yeah, yeah.
So it's weird. So like they knew.
Like going in like they were going to beat each other up but
they're still buddies and shit. Yeah, yeah, they, they've been

(01:51:31):
friends for I remember that fromthe book.
They were, they got along reallygood, those two.
So, so that's, and you know, like deathmatch wrestlers that
are buddies. So usually you could do more to
each other because you trust each other more.
So makes for a better matches a lot of times.
Anything else that stood out to?You on this one.

(01:51:52):
I I didn't mention it right away, but I absolutely love like
2 seconds into this into this video.
Like they have the graphic eludearc and then they move to the
graphic of Mickey. It's just her playing with her
ass. I knew from 2 seconds in I knew
I was like this is going to be great.

(01:52:15):
So yeah, this was good. Maybe wish I went to a heart
ballroom show. There there's one coming up this
Friday. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
That's a revolver and arrival. Yeah, I don't know.
I was, I was looking into like where I could possibly park and
honestly, I don't know if I havea car old enough that I want to

(01:52:36):
leave to in that part of Newark.See, I always mix up for some
reason at first when I was watching this, I always mix this
up with Jersey City, the White Eagle Hall, because.
It's oh, that's the one that that's the one AWA used to run
out of all the time right when? They were.
Oh, did they? There was some no.

(01:52:57):
Maybe I'm thinking of another place, but like, remember when
they. Brought back AWA but it was Dale
Gag Gagner was biting off the name and shit.
I want to say they used to hold their shows there, but I might
be wrong. Yeah, I went to a Jersey
Championship Wrestling last earlier this year there.
They had their J Cup there. The J Cup, it's so hard to

(01:53:17):
believe that that's still a thing.
Yep. Yeah, well, Masha Slamovich won
that one. I don't think she's going to go
3 peat. Why not?
She hasn't been around since shebeat up a cure.
Or so I guess that's it for. That whole thing, yeah, They
have a new JCW champion. She hasn't been mentioned once

(01:53:38):
on TNAI. Think of that whole thing.
She didn't come out looking verygood.
No, most abusers don't. Yeah, very true.
I want it's going to be another person on the list that's going
to be persona non grata for the wrestling business.
Yeah, you wipe that episode yet?Wait, we have Masha, huh?

(01:53:59):
Yeah, you guys had, I think you had Masha on.
I don't know if I was there for that.
Dude, I don't know, I guess there's one day I just got to go
back. Over the entire archive.
I got to see who I got to take off.
I got to, I got to add people tothe list.
Man, it's been a long time sinceI've added like, new people.
Yeah. I don't know, it was cool for a
while. Let's keep track.
But now it's just like. It's busy.

(01:54:21):
We've had busy year. We sure have, buddy, We sure
have. Speaking of busy, just a couple
days ago the latest of the RogueIndy Chronicles dropped.
Oh yeah, so if you want to hear about a fun road trip between HK

(01:54:42):
and his buddies, this one the the show was fun, but the main
event was after the show for sure.
Yeah, the question you need to ask yourself is what can you
expect from a road trip to Wisconsin with handsome Kevin PD
Brown and a six foot 6 monster named Stonehenge travelling in a

(01:55:02):
car together? Find out who's got bitch bladder
and find out who's the real lifeof the party.
Oh yeah, another. Fucking another fucking great
episode. It was so it's so much fun doing
that. And you and Matt too.
The I just fucking die the wholetime I listen to your guys
episodes, it's so much fun. It's cool because we do have

(01:55:25):
that entire history where we canlook back and, you know, kind of
trace our steps, so to say. And by looking at old emails,
looking at notes that we sent toeach other, like I have like I
think I still have like notepadsof handwritten notes somewhere.
I might have to find just old emails that we would send to

(01:55:47):
guests. Like with press releases that
kind of like refresh things and whatnot.
You get a good idea of like how where we were in terms of
progression for the show by likethe dumb questions we were
asking and the kind of guests that we were having on and
whatnot. And if Matt was doing episodes
by himself and something else. I remember too, there was a
period of time where it was getting increasingly difficult

(01:56:11):
because for any of us to get together, because Kevin KJG was
like working a job at like either the Hat or one of the
other Taverns. So like he would wind up working
late at night some nights. Eddie was Eddie wound up like
working his shoot job late or even like doing stuff for PWS.
Matt was on the pizza truck. I was working late hours.

(01:56:34):
So there were some episodes where I was walking around
Manhattan with what you're seeing me wearing right now and
just recording like into my fucking iPhone.
While I was walking around and Idid it a bunch of times and Matt
always told me those episodes ofdog shit.
I'm like, yeah, but those episodes are putting out content
every week, good or bad. So we never fucking missed a

(01:56:56):
week. Like when I say we never missed
a week we've. Never missed a week.
We may have. Put out like there may have been
once or twice where we recorded shit ahead of time, maybe more
than that and then put it out that week or like something
like, well, let's hold on to this for a rainy day and hey,
it's a rainy day, let's put thatout there.
So it kept us going, man, it canlike some of them were some of

(01:57:16):
them I enjoyed recording some ofthem.
Whether or not the folks enjoyedwas another story, but it kept
so shit like that, shit like that is the kind of stuff that
we're going to do in the archives like.
Dude, we would. We would.
Go out to eat and put a microphone on the table.
We used to put the little gimmick on the table and just
record like conversation while we were having dinner.

(01:57:37):
Yeah, and that's a. That's the.
That's the most fun too, 'cause we all, if you're a wrestling
fan, pretty much everybody has those friends that you sit there
and you could just talk wrestling for for hours.
I know I do, and I have with youguys too.
And it's just so easy. So I I could see those episodes
being just a blast to do. Yeah, like Matt says he's like,

(01:58:00):
he's like, he's like we're all older.
He's like, he's like, who else can say that?
They, they can sit down with their buddies, you know, once a
week and just shoot the shit. You know, yeah, that's true.
And this is, this is what we've created and this is what we do,
for better or worse. For as of next week, 14 years.

(01:58:21):
Oh my God, the 14th anniversary of the Shining Wizards.
Yeah, we've got, we've got extraguests lined up.
I don't know if Double T is going to put them out into the
universe yet, but you know, likewe're we'll be back at full
force hopefully next week. I'm assuming we will be.
I don't see what we wouldn't be the other Thanksgiving week

(01:58:41):
tradition of the episode that that marks the anniversary of
the shining Wizards each and every year.
We got jobs still while we wrap the show up.
I mean, I will do the Patreons if you reprise your role from
last week and give oh. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I will be very happy to. I mean, I've got the sound, I've

(01:59:03):
got the sound board open too, but I don't, I don't.
Yeah, whatever. Yeah.
I'm feeling an early finish tonight.
I don't know about you. Hey, like I said before, who
doesn't like an early finish? God bless my wife.
She's seen more than one of those in her day.
Oh, yeah. Oh, no, yeah, no, no.
Oh yeah. Needed on that one.

(01:59:25):
And let me take down the fuckingmedia.
And with that, we. Queue the music music.
This has been a production of the Shining Wizards Network, as
it for everything Shining Wizards, visit
shiningwizards.com. And.
Don't forget to listen to all the great shows of the Shining

(01:59:46):
Wizards Network. But it's like those who support
us the executive producers, Manny Crotzo, Mike Peterson, our
producers, Kate Henzel Mackeriffo, Al Day, Ryan
Schlong, High 5 Tom David, HenryBauer, The Third, Keith Parker,
Michael Ham and Kathy. I dunk biscuits.
Jesse Elwell and Emily Brock next week. 14 years people.

(02:00:08):
Brundo, give me the finish. Good
night, Diana. See you next week.

(02:00:33):
Enjoy Dynamite. Deuces.
Fuck me this was fun.

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