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SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
Camera one camera two?
Are you nervous?
I don't know.
This is season premier, thethird season of a show.
How did you make it this way?
This is this is like this isnormally the prime of the Oh?
Yeah.
Oh shoot.
This is normally when a showreally starts to blossom.

(00:27):
Five people who watch her justfor seeking reasons.
And three, two.
There you are.
Action.
We have upgraded.
I can't even see you.
We did a clap.
Oh.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You guys pulled out the redcarpet for me.
Love it.
Whenever you're ready.
Let's rock and roll, brother.

(00:47):
Let's rock and roll.
Just hold it like this, right?
Ding dong.
You good?
You figure out how to hold themicrophone?
Yep.
There's no buttons, nothing.
Real professional.
I like it.
Are you gonna do the intro?
Okay.
We're good.
Let's go.
Hello and welcome to seasonthree of Between Two Belts.

(01:12):
I am RJ Bates the third, and Iam excited to have a third
season of Between Two Belts.
Thank you to YouTube forrenewing us.
And to our sponsors.
Sub two.
Eric Klein's attorney.

(01:33):
And Jamil Damjee.
Not wholesaling Jamil Damjee.
Pad split Jamil Damjee.
Thank you to our sponsors.
Today for the season premiere,we have brought in Steve Train.
Hi Steve.
Nice to be here.
Sales Disruptors.
Love it.
Sales Disruptors?
Yeah.

(01:53):
Is that your new brand?
Is that what it is?
Yes.
Follow us on YouTube andInstagram.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Hold on.
We should take that out andpost.
Um, this is not Steve Train.
It can be.
We're all that we all lookalike, don't we?
When guys, listen, I know thatwe have a big crew and this is a
new season, but when we bring inthe Asians, you need to let me

(02:16):
know what their names are.
Okay.
What is your name, sir?
Uh some uh sometimes I go by thename of Frank.
That's kind of it.
And last name Chen.
Frank Chen?
Yeah, C-H-E-N, not like the oneon your face.
Is it like your parents wantedto like pretend that you were
white and then let everyone knowthat you're Asian with the last
name?

(02:36):
But pretty much we're like theSmiths of the Whites.
Yes.
Frank Chen.
Yes, we're the we're the Smiths,pretty much.
Yep.
Frank, what do you do for aliving?
Uh I do my best, try to makemoney online as an affiliate
consultant.
So I work with brands that showthem how to partner and create
strategic partnerships with uhcompanies and softwares and

(02:56):
services and add additionalrevenue to their top level.
I'm an affiliate whore.
I learned this from Pace.
Big whore.
Yeah.
One of the best.
Pace is the biggest whore.
We all strive to be just likehim.
You know, pretty much anycompany that's willing to pay us
for anything, sign up using codetitanium.
That's right.
Why have you never consulted meabout any of my affiliates?
I'll be honest.

(03:17):
Um, you're kind of like ana-hole, you know what I mean?
So it's kind of hard to get ahold of you.
You know?
No one has ever said that aboutme.
Lies.
Lies.
So, what does an affiliateconsultant do?
Uh, we help connect businessesand brands to partnerships that
provide services, software,education, and uh and really

(03:41):
services to help their studentsbecome more successful.
So I I don't understand.
I always have a notebook with mynotes, but now that we've
upgraded to these handheld dickmics, like I can't.
It's worthless.
So you help connect me tocompanies that I can then

(04:02):
promote their services and sellfor money.
You actually do for some peoplethat I work with.
And uh ones being investorboots.
Oh, yeah, the the porn photoguy.
Yes, yes, that's a good idea.
Season finale of season two.
If you haven't seen that,contains a lot about porn.
I eye opener.

(04:23):
Uh another one is iSpeed toLead, PPL company.
You work with speed to lead?
I do some stuff with them.
And you're at the you're at thetop of the list, brother.
You're you're you're a bigaffiliate there.
Yes, yes, I are.
You're their biggest whore.
Yes.
Yeah, brother.
I can sell some PPL.
Yeah, we'll work for a PPL.
Yes.
I will do anything for you tobuy leads.

unknown (04:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (04:45):
Okay, ambition boots, speed to lead, what else?
Uh, I think those are two mainones I work with, but I think
like who you tell me.
Who else are you?
VA VAs?
I work with the VA company.
Of course.
Egyptian VAs, yeah.
Not the Philippines.
Not the Filipino ones, right?
Nothing wrong with them.
But the Egyptians, theEgyptians.
You know, season one, chock fullof VA pimps.

(05:06):
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And then you come in and you'relike, not the Filipinos.
You want to go Egyptians?
Yeah, that's right.
I'll try to.
Why has that become a thinglately?
It's like 2015 to 2020, it waslike all Philippines.
Now all of a sudden it's like wewent to Egypt.
It's like Asian fatigue, youknow?
There's when you just get intoit, it's like, ah, VAs,

(05:27):
everybody assumes it's thePhilippines.
Yeah.
Like the freshened up a bit, youknow, with the with the
Egyptians, you know, some of theUkrainian ones.
I hear good things about them.
Ukraine?
Yeah, dude.
This is your connection,development.
Yeah, that's that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
Do you know Gene knows uh Putin?
Uh it would it makes sense.
Yeah.
You know, they get they're vibe.

(05:49):
Shout out to Putin.
Yeah, yeah.
So you uh you pimp out some VAs.
Uh yeah, no, I pimp, I work withthe pimps.
I work with the pimps.
Yeah.
I'm the I'm the pimps pimp.
Oh.
Yeah.
That's I'd be pimping.
You're you're like top dog.
Uh sure, yeah.
I'm at the top of the pimp atthe cut.

(06:09):
Yeah, I like to position myself,you know, before the dirty stuff
happens.
Do I have to pay you?
Uh no, no.
My people pay me.
Do I make less money becauseyou're involved?
No, that's one of my uh my rulesis you do my our affiliate
partners make the same.
Stop the cap.
So you guys don't have to worryabout me being involved.
Yeah.
Oh.
Because how do you guys careabout that kind of stuff?

(06:31):
How did you come up with thisrole?
I did this about 18 years agoand started in a company and no
idea what this was, but didn'trealize how much money was
flowing back and forth.
And uh no one still understandswhat they don't.
If you look online on YouTubeand look up affiliate
management, nothing comes up.
Yeah, affiliate marketing, yes.
But I yeah, I've been in familymastermind now for like four

(06:53):
years.
And I thought you were the MC.
Uh and Steve Trang.
Oh that's oh that's Francis.
Oh, that's Francis, my othertwin.
See, there's three of us here,and they all mix us up.
That's how bad it is.
Yeah.
Help, help.
Well, Francis is just like youif you like you fix yourself up.
Yes, he has way more hair thanme.

(07:15):
Yeah, you're like Francis afterhe wakes up after, you know, a
20-hour coat binge.
Yeah, uh that, and yeah, and I II would love if I just could
grow hair like him.
That'd be like all of us would.
Oh, you that's right.

unknown (07:30):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
That's right.
Oh, the bald guys club almost.
That's where I work with.
All right, so 18 years ago, youdecided that you were gonna
create this industry.
Like all good entrepreneurs,good mentorship, coaches, really
kind of guided me through justinternet marketing.
Uh, really capturingopportunities, I think, is what
allowed me to survive these 18years.

(07:52):
But yeah, affiliate, I think, isin every industry, not just real
estate, right?
Health, fitness, you know.
Oh, so you work outside of justreal estate.
I'm trying to.
My vertical is real estate rightnow.
There's still so muchopportunity to capture, but my
goal ultimately is to bring thisto every industry.
Yeah, I mean, you've only beendoing it for 18 years.
It's probably time to, you know,start looking elsewhere.

(08:13):
Yeah.
Thank, thank, yep.
Thanks.
Yep.
Yep, yep.
Oh, I bet.
You had never roofing.
That should be your next one.
Roofing, oh, dude.
Insurance companies, roofing.
Are you the reason why speed ofleads doing roofing leads now?
Uh oh my god.
Oh, hey, that's on the that's onthe that's on the DL, brother.
What do you mean it can't be onthe DL?
It's on Facebook ads.

(08:35):
Okay.
Obviously, I'm I'm not in tunewith what my my clients are
marketing.
So good job, iSpeed.
Yep, yep.
Roof it, yep.
It's just running out there.
Oops.
You can't really hide it.
Okay.
Uh obviously I stay in my lane.
Don't know what's really goingon there.
So that's that's good.
Sorry, Yuri.
That's amazing.

(08:56):
Oops.
Like it's supposed to be on thedeal.
Okay, yeah.
I mean, listen.
I was just trying to create somemystery and that failed.
So our thumbnail has you on it.
So there's gonna be like 75people that watch this.
Good.
It's okay.
We'll still stay on the deal.
Like you're following onInstagram.
That was okay.
Wow.
Yeah, that was you know, theissue is that we did get renewed

(09:16):
for a third season, but thebudget that they give us doesn't
help us get better.
What is the budget?
Wait, what kind of budget do youget?
Well, we got Dick Mike's.
Um, no, same lights.
We got a new camera guy.
You guys are man, you guys areliving.
You guys made it.
You're you've made it.
We got a groupie.
Yeah.

(09:36):
Yeah.
Groupie here.
One.
We used to have an audience.
They used to laugh and clap.
They don't do that anymore.
So budget's tight.
Um, all right.
Good to be here.
The the the key question ofthis.
Now listen.
Season premiere.
I need you to kick us off theright way.
This is an important question.
A lot of people answer it theexact same way, and then I have

(10:00):
to point out how ridiculoustheir answer is.
So kick us off the right way.
Okay.
What is your greatestachievement in life?
Oh, the first thing that came tomind, I bet is the answer.
But I gotta admit, you know, Idon't work to I don't work to
make money.
I work to provide for my family,and I think that's the biggest
thing is being a dad to my twokids.

(10:21):
I know it's the same thing.
Entrepreneurship is crazy whenyou talk to those who have
accomplished where you want togo.
I ask that same question.
It's always being a father.
It it's it is the best.
I have a two-month-old now, andI love it.
I love it.
That's my greatest.
My greatest achievement is beinga dad.
It's creating the nextgeneration of better people.

(10:42):
Hopefully, they can just do onebetter.
I understand that it's not thathard.
Have you been watching the haveyou been watching TV and the
news?
All you had to do was just pumpand dunk, dude.
And boom, you're dad.
That pretty much uh sums up whatI did.
So uh it's harder than it soundssometimes.
Doesn't make it any less fun.
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of convincing.

(11:03):
A lot of convincing, right?
You're married?
Uh I'm still surprised by thatas well, yes.
Yeah.
Close to 10 years now, you know?
That's a thing.
That's like a what silver?
That's great.
Gold, something like that.
Are you married?
Uh I'm not.
I'm not.
Oh.
Oh well.
I'm sorry.
I'm not surprised.
Congratulations on your greatestachievement in life.

(11:23):
Thank you.
Being a dad.
Yeah.
And continuing the trend ofliterally every single person at
Family Mastermind believing thattheir greatest achievement in
life is procreating.
I'm glad I could just fit rightinto it.
One person has come in and said,you know, I think the greatest

(11:44):
achievement in life is somethingelse besides having sex with the
opposite.
You know what?
I'll give you another answer.
I'll say this is a rare thing.
In 18 years, I've never beensued or uh I've survived the
FTC, all these things in theeducation space.
You know, people have come andgone, but I've kept my nose
clean for 18 years.

(12:04):
So I'll say that's a hugeaccomplishment.
That's a good one.
There you go.
I like that.
That's like the greatestachievement as an entrepreneur.
And then pumping and dumping.
Yeah.
There you go.
All right, ladies and gentlemen,Steve Trang's little brother,
Frank Chin.
Thanks, big bro.
See you guys.
You're supposed to stand up.
Oh this is how we fucking.
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