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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Just hold the hold
the jig just like that.
Not that closer.
Hello, welcome to Between TwoBelts.
I am your host, RJ Bates theTurn.
Today I'm sitting down withTrevor.
(00:21):
Mock mock mock.
Why why is the CH Hard?
SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Do you do you know
German?
No.
No, not not not that I know of.
Not that I know of.
I do like Elon Musk though.
He's good.
Oh, it's gonna be that kind ofan episode.
SPEAKER_01 (00:45):
Out of the gates.
Alright.
Trevor, what is it that you dofor a living?
SPEAKER_00 (00:51):
Um have a I have a
company called Carrot.
Yeah.
It's like it's like thevegetable.
SPEAKER_01 (00:59):
Why why would you
name your company carrot?
SPEAKER_00 (01:03):
Well, there there's
lots of good reasons.
Um first of all, I'm allergic tocarrots.
It's the only only food I'mactually allergic to is carrots,
which is a true story.
SPEAKER_01 (01:12):
And so you named
your company after it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
Why?
SPEAKER_00 (01:18):
The second reason uh
that I that I named it after
carrot uh was uh it's actually afunctional reason, right?
You we help people get leads,you dangle this thing in front
of people and they cat theycatch it, they capture it, they
they bite the carrot.
SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
That's okay.
So you uh you help people getleads.
SPEAKER_00 (01:36):
Help help people get
leads, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:37):
So you dangle a
carrot in front of their face.
SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
Yes, yes, exactly.
And it works.
Millions of them.
SPEAKER_01 (01:45):
How did you think of
this?
SPEAKER_00 (01:47):
Um, dude, so the the
way I originally thought about
it was I I had that problem.
I couldn't get leads, so Ilearned how to do this thing,
learn how to build websites thatactually worked.
SPEAKER_01 (01:57):
Real estate or
something else?
SPEAKER_00 (01:58):
For real estate
primarily.
SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
You wanted to invest
in real estate.
SPEAKER_00 (02:01):
Yep.
And then I helped real estateinvestors, real estate agents do
the same thing as a like aconsultant.
And it was too much work to setthese things up one by one,
these websites up one by one.
And so just made a system to doit.
I hired a web dude, paid him 10bucks an hour, whatever it was,
and had him build this thing forme to automate it.
(02:22):
And that turned into a lot morepeople wanting it, and then
8,000 people wanting it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:27):
Are you like the
richest guy in this room?
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
In this room?
Definitely not in this room, no.
No, it's gotta be you.
SPEAKER_01 (02:34):
Not counting.
SPEAKER_00 (02:35):
Dude, you've got two
belts.
I don't have any.
I have no belts.
I have no belts.
SPEAKER_01 (02:39):
Where are you from,
Trevor?
SPEAKER_00 (02:40):
Uh, from a small
town in Oregon called Roseburg,
about 25,000 people.
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
So you just love
communist countries?
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
Germany, Oregon?
Oregon, Oregon, uh, so we livein a conservative part of
Oregon.
Big time.
It's it's so the one to thetimber capital of America is in
this county that we live in.
And it's it's hyperconservative.
SPEAKER_01 (03:04):
Why did your state
literally come up with the worst
regulation for wholesaling?
SPEAKER_00 (03:11):
Dude, they they come
up with a lot of amazing
regulations.
So uh the last couple years, youcan shoot up meth in front of a
cop now and not get arrested.
Um, you can take psychedelicmushrooms in front of a cop and
not get arrested.
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
Have you told Frank
Chen about this?
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
No.
No, so we're gonna go.
We're dude, we're we're on fireall the time with our
regulations.
I think we just like to trythings that are really crazy and
stupid and then see how itworks, and we're the experiment
petri dish for the rest ofAmerica, I think.
SPEAKER_01 (03:40):
I uh I did a deal in
Portland, Oregon once, and I had
to pay an art tax.
SPEAKER_00 (03:46):
An art tax?
Yes.
Was there art in the property?
There was not.
That's that's an interestingone.
SPEAKER_01 (03:52):
He sent me a bill
for$235 for art.
SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
So I why do you
still live there?
Yeah, dude, it's have you'vebeen there, right?
No, you've never been there.
I'm gonna get you there.
That's why I've never come.
I'm gonna get you there.
So family's there first.
So family's, you know, we'rewe're tight with family, but the
nature, anytime we we head backinto town, dude.
So I I love Florida.
We're sitting in Florida rightnow.
(04:16):
Love it here.
But I fly back home,everything's green.
You've got the river right bybehind my house, waterfalls
flowing, fly fishing out thebackyard.
Um, it's the people and it'snature.
It's miserable.
SPEAKER_01 (04:27):
I mean, the nature
makes sense.
You like it here in Florida?
SPEAKER_00 (04:30):
I I enjoy visiting
here.
SPEAKER_01 (04:32):
This place is
miserable.
SPEAKER_00 (04:34):
We were here.
This is my third time here thisyear.
I feel like we were here in Juneand it was terrible.
SPEAKER_01 (04:39):
Out of a shower
right now.
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
Oh, dude.
You should have been here inJune.
It was it was worse in June.
This place is bad.
SPEAKER_01 (04:45):
It was horrible.
SPEAKER_00 (04:46):
So, where do you
live?
SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
Uh Fort, Texas.
SPEAKER_00 (04:49):
It's not hot there,
it's hot.
It's not soupy, but it's a dry adry heat, as they say.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Drier than this.
We're actually humid there.
It's just nothing is worse thanthis.
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
Did you say humid or
humid?
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Humid.
SPEAKER_00 (05:02):
Humid, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
Is that true?
SPEAKER_00 (05:04):
I wasn't sure if
that was a Texas thing.
SPEAKER_01 (05:06):
Are you married?
SPEAKER_00 (05:07):
I'm I'm married half
the time.
SPEAKER_01 (05:08):
How long have you
been married?
SPEAKER_00 (05:09):
Almost 20 years.
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
How did you do that?
SPEAKER_00 (05:12):
How did I get
married, or how did I make it
last almost 20 years?
Um, first of all, I married mybest friend.
Choking up.
SPEAKER_01 (05:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:23):
Married my best
friend, and she's amazing.
Her name is Carly.
And I made a lot of money.
Dude, uh, we we we got togetherin high school.
So she she believed in in thevision before when everyone was
teasing the vision.
SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
Yeah.
When you were like, honey, I'mgonna name veggies.
SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
That's right.
She's like, oh, amazing idea.
So she believed in it from fromday one.
No, she uh, dude, I I I thinkthe biggest thing is just number
one, uh, marry your best friend.
You want to hang out with thatperson.
Number two, um, I I I think forus, we we've always created time
for each other.
Yeah.
Uh there's something that herand I do every year called the
pre-stacked year, and we sitdown, we've got this fancy
(06:00):
little calendar that doesn'tlook like a calendar that I
made, and we write out all thepersonal stuff that we want to
do that year first, all thefamily stuff, and and we build
the year around around those.
Um, and then work comes in.
And then once a quarter we do acouple's retreat, and so we go
away for a night or two and hangout and reconnect and bring that
(06:21):
that pre-stacked year back upand say, hey, what do we want to
have intention to do this nextquarter?
Uh, we do date mornings, datenights weren't working um with
kids' activities and things likethat.
So we like, well, how can weguarantee dates happen?
So we switch to date to datemornings on Tuesdays and just
really having uh having theintentional effort.
Uh as they say, you've alwaysgot to date your partner.
(06:43):
And I think for for seasons thathasn't hasn't done well.
SPEAKER_01 (06:48):
You know, Trevor,
this show, I don't know if
people know this or not, butit's a satire comedy where I'm
supposed to make fun of you.
SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
Oh, I was lying
about everything.
Actually, I just nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
Unfortunately,
anytime that I interview you,
yeah, um I just feel like I'mtalking to Jesus Christ.
And I have you ever doneanything wrong in your life?
SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
Yeah, I've I've done
lots lots of things wrong
already.
SPEAKER_01 (07:19):
Yeah, you're gonna
like you're gonna say you
jaywalked, aren't you?
SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
I jaywalk every day
I jaywalk.
Every every day I come from theparking garage to my office, I
jaywalk every day.
What's the worst thing you'veever done in your life?
The worst thing that I've everdone in my life.
SPEAKER_01 (07:34):
You're gonna be
like, I lied to my daughter one.
SPEAKER_00 (07:36):
So back in grade
school, I uh I got sent to the
principal's office one time.
And there were these girls, andwe were doing this science
project where we had to measurethe perimeter of the school with
yarn, and so they measured theirfive-foot thing of yarn, and
before they were had a chance todo it, I cut a foot off of it.
And so they went and measuredthe whole thing and came back
(07:57):
with their number and it wasoff.
And and the teacher asked whodid it, and my buddy pointed at
me, and so I went to theprincipal's office for cutting a
foot of yarn off of a girl'sliterally the most Trevor Mock
story ever.
SPEAKER_01 (08:14):
Oh my god.
Well, Trevor, we do have atradition around here at Between
Do Belts, and I can't wait tohear what your answer is because
there's a trend, and I thinkyou're going to far exceed the
trend.
SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
I can't wait for the
question.
SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
What is your
greatest achievement in life?
SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
Greatest achievement
in life so far is having kids
that want to hang out with me.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
See, to all of the
other people that I've
interviewed on between twobelts, that's how you answer the
question.
You know what they say?
What's that?
Being a dad.
I'm like, so you pumped anddumped?
Like, that's not that hard.
We can all become a dad.
That's right.
That was a good answer.
There we go.
And that, ladies and gentlemen,if you ever wanted to know what
(09:07):
Jesus Christ looks like, ormaybe he's the antichrist.
I don't think he had kidsthough.
Well, not the original versionof you.
It's this is the new version.
Trevor Mock.
Appreciate it, but 2025 JesusChrist.
Thank you, man.