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On the episode, Jong-Fast talks about her own actual fear of flying, in addition to her mother’s book of the same name; 27 years of sobriety and how her time in A.A. has transformed her life; and the importance of confronting the vicissitudes of aging and one’s passage through time.
Special thanks to our Season 11 presenting sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels.
Show notes:
[4:28] “Fear of Flying” (1973)
[4:28] Erica Jong
[4:49] “How to Lose Your Mother: A Daughter’s Memoir”
[7:53] “Spartacus” (1951)
[7:53] “April Morning” (1961)
[7:53] “The Immigrants” (1977)
[9:15] Lee Krasner
[10:04] Susan Faludi
[10:04] “Backlash” (1991)
[12:09] “Fear and Flying Erica & Erotica in Connecticut” (1980)
[12:09] “Fanny” (1980)
[14:57] Marty Seif
[18:26] Special Guest: Erica Jong (2023)
[19:39] Pan Am Flight 001
[21:11] “The Year of Magical Thinking” (2005)
[21:11] “Notes to John” (2025)
[26:54] “The Sex Doctors in the Basement” (2005)
[36:46] “Normal Girl” (2000)
[38:52] Jacob Bernstein
[38:52] Carl Bernstein
[38:52] Stalin Peace Prize
[46:05] Michael Tomasky
[48:55] Hazelden
[49:57] “How Molly Jong-Fast Tweeted Her Way to Liberal Media Stardom”
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