"LIVE FROM THE LOBBY OF THE RAMADA INN!" w/ Rob Benedict and Jerry Trainor

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, my babies. It is me Art Marine and I
am here with my friend Anna, Tanna. Tanna. You might
call yourself Anna, but I know your Tanna. Look, guys,
we know the world needs a hug. We know the
world needs some laughter and distraction, and that is why

(00:20):
we are giving you. We've made our Patreon picks for
the next series. You guys have all spoken, and believe
it or not, we're doing not one, but two series.
That's right for you die hard super fans who've been
with us from the beginning. We are going to be
doing Bachelorette New Zealand, which can be found on the

(00:44):
Bachelor archive dot com. We got we got so excited
when HBO Max announced that they were doing like other countries,
but they only gave us Bachelor in New Zealand, not
Bachelorette New Zealand. And you may say to me Art
and the why don't you do out in New Zealand
because of emails like this. Here's an email from a
listener we had and you all like, there were so

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many things nominated. This is from a listener named Katie. Um.
My husband and I are deep in with the franchise
and watch a lot of the international seasons. We just
finished The Bachelorette New Zealand and it was phenomenal. No spoilers, Garretty.
They start with one bachelorette, then they bring in a
second bachelorette who we know from an American version of

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the show, and then they have a mole amongst the
guys in the house, and then they have the men
filmed themselves throughout and other fun surprises. I mean that
to me. Are you excited, Anna? I am? I am
very excited. We have Lily as the bachelorette and she
was from the American Winter Game series. She showed up

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and I believe hooked up with an Australian man named Courtney,
but clearly it did not last. Well, here's another one.
I mean this is not just one. Know we got
numerous emails about this. Here's from a lady named Cali
who's a listener. Um. She was to pitch to you
for next season of recaps on Patreon The Bachelor at
New Zealand, and then she says, before you hide under
your weighted blanket, hear me out. I've been an avid

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listener on Patreon and after Matt Agnew put the asshole
and asked her physicists and truly bawled up in season.
I couldn't help but be saddened by your frustration, disappointment
and generally totally justified jaded No with the Australian franchise
and the lame Aussee Bros and its tip focus at
these So I presented you The Bachelor in New zealand

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And as an alternative for your next block of recap,
something totally different. Apolate cleanser. Okay, so here we go.
There Keywi accent schlore for Arna to attempt, which are
even more ridiculous in the Austie accents. I think she's
from Australia, Okay, then sheares. I truly believe that The The
Bachelor New Zealand is everything the show is meant to be.
Here some key selling points, um men who are naked

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all the time, aim like every episode. Seriously, the bachelorette
is a stunning, sexy doctor who can actually string a
sentence together and knows what she wants. There's a second Bachelorette.
I mean, it's just it's so exciting. There's a there's
a chocolate maker slash stripper that is a contestant. I

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just feel like, this has everything that we want, So
that is we are going to be recapping that on Patreon,
and if that is not enough, we are also get
ready for it. It's our first time. We're branching into
the Bravo world. I am newly into Real Housewives and
my favorite franchise of all of the Real Housewives is

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New York. So you're gonna get for your Patreon money,
not just Bachelorette New Zealand and every one of our
past ones that we've gone down, You're also gonna get
Real Housewives of New York. I mean, Anna, are you
so excited? I am very excited. It's it's a new
venture for us, but I think we'll have a lot

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of fun. I just felt like so many of my
favorite people watched Housewives. I didn't watch it, and then
I had to watch it before I went on watch
What Happens Live. And now I'm totally hooked and I'm
excited to chat about it with uh with funny people.
And we hope that it sounds like you guys also
like Bravo shows, so hopefully this is fun for you.
So Bachelor Archives dot Com, you put your email in,

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you get access to every like, so that's where you
go for the Bachelor in New Zealand, and you're also
going to get real house eves of New York. All
of this is starting immediately, So there you go, And
there's a bonus episode coming up for Love Is Blind
with Jillian Bell from Brittany runs a Marathon and my
friend Andy Fleming, who wrote and directed the Craft Boom.

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Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of
I Heart Radio. Oh yeah, well I want tonight. Look
it feels okay, I mean a little tender, you know what.
Nobody's courted me this early on a Tuesday, after so

(05:07):
many hours watching Chris Harrison and the World's Ugliest Home Office.
So I think I will I think I will good.
I mean my horny obviously Tuesday, So yeah, guess what.
I will accept your rose? Stay classy, everybody. Hello, Welcome

(05:28):
to Will You Accept This Rose? My name is Arte Marine,
and I am coming to you from my garage and
silver Like that's starting not to smell so good. I
am so happy to be here with all of you,
beautiful people. Happy to be here with these I'm gonna
say a downright hunky gaggle of gents that I have

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wrangled in the early morning hours of Tuesday, UH to
stay up and watch very, very very long episode at
an unnecessarily long episode of a recap of what I
was hoping was going to be the very first season.
I was so excited to watch the recap of the

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first season. Ever, because I've been trying to buy it online,
you can't get it online. I've been wanting to watch
the Rachel haircuts, the sensible Blazers. I've been wanting to
watch the first season, and what instead I got was
a very sweet, blonde Christian beefcake falling for an adorable girl.

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Here we go with me to break it down, are
two gentlemen that they're a site for sore ris this
morning with me. First is a man who um, he's
He's I'm gonna say, a national treasure on this podcast.
He has been pat Sor of the Year so many times.
Why can't the greatest man on earth fine love? I

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don't know. He was Bachelor of the Year, he was
Bachelor of the Year two thousand seven, he was Bad
to the Year nineteen and twenty. You know him from Supernatural,
you might know him from his brand new podcast. And
my guest is Richard Spait. I know him as the

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man that I've toured the country with, and I'm ready
to do it again when I feel safe to leave
my hole. Let me rephrase that my plot. Ladies and gentlemen,
rob better Dad, Oh my god, Robbie, how are you? Oh?
You know, considering everything, I'm you know, I'm alive. Um,

(07:36):
but yeah, everything's everything is good. This was this is amazing.
Can't wait to talk about it. It was amazing. Yes,
it was painful. Um yeah, I'd already seen it. I
feel like I just saw it. Yeah, um yeah, but
it was. It was by the way you look, you
look great. Did you get did you get a profession
hair cut? Or I cut my own hair again the
other day. I give myself almost a lab. I have

(07:58):
a long bob right now. I can't stop cutting my
own hair. Wearing a hat so that you don't see, well,
you're burning. That's a baseball hat. Did you think that
was his hair? I know, I saw like his beard
was like nicely groomed. Did you think his hair has
a baseball local? I thought he was. I thought I
got a professional hair cut. That he was so isolated

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that he got such a fancy haircut. He combed, he
cut a logo in and made the front his bangs
like a bill of a hat. Speaking of exciting hair,
put like an el on my forehead because my hat
has an el. Have you still got washed your hair?
The entire quarantine? No man, no wash? You said you
had it for what? Jerry, what do we call you?
What you were saying that you were saying? No to okay?

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I speaking of no I rinse it, but no pooh
wow amazing, speaking of a solidary. I don't know if
this man has no pooh or if this man has
but well, when you look at the baseball hat on
my head, what would you say, I'm gonna say, no pooh?
I We we love him from I Carle, We love

(09:03):
him from Drake and Josh. We are stalkingly obsessed with him.
I'm still the King. This man came in and revolutionized
our podcast. This it's hard to picture of this podcast
without him. It's hard to believe that we did four
full years, seven hundred seasons without him. Rookie of the

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Year and he earned it, ladies and gentlemen. Jerry Trainer, Hey, everybody, Hey,
thanks for having me. And yes I am doing the no,
puh situation, and I feel like the hair has transitioned
to Dare I say, benedictinan levels, yes, like Rob's hair
is looking good and mine was very greasy, but now

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it's now he's spot on. I want you to know
I immediately went to Benedict cumber Batch when you said that,
I was talking about Bachelor of the Year two thousands six.
Also with us, we have two women that I love,

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I respect, I fear, one of whom had a thirtieth
birthday when we were not in season, and we need
to honor her. Tanna Anna Hosnie A happy effing birthday.
My birthday, Tanna. And to miss Katie how Hello Katie,

(10:28):
happy birthday. You've got to be a Virgo, Katie, Katie Virgo. No,
I'm Sagittarius, me too. I know our birthdays were very
close to each other. What's your date? Love it? I
love um guys. Yeah, and it's thirty she's thirty young
your child? Did did my present arrive yet? Uh know? Okay,

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hey listen before we get going, just with everything that's
been going on in the world, Like as we've been talking,
Katie and I are talking, We're like, what can we do.
Let's let's be real. The Bachelor franchise has been way
too white for way too long, and even just watching
all these I mean, if this whole thing is an

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ad for like all of these shows, these best of
it is just a reason that we need more diversity.
And so we were talking amongst ourselves, could we start
a campaign? Could we start like a hashtag? And then
one of our dear listeners sent me a link to
this page. It's happening some this person. So there's this
the I signed yesterday. There's a petition. I was like
the sixteen thousand signature, like it's it's happening. There's this

(11:39):
great So if you go on Instagram and you follow
Batch Diversity, that's Batch Diversity and they have, um there's
all these links and they're they're they're really gaining steam
a lot, like a lot of people from the Bachelor
world are following them. But they're asking for they want
a black Bachelor as a season twenty five lead, which

(11:59):
is like there's one in forty Like that's I mean,
Anna and I are right now on Patreon. We're watching
New Zealand and they've only had one Bachelorette ever and
she's biracial. Like, that's one one and they've had one
black Bachelor lead in the entire franchise in America. UM.
By the way, the New Zealand one is amazing, she's fantastic,

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she's a doctor hop on um. But so they're asking
for a minimum of thirty five people of color contestants.
They want a black lead, they want equitable screen time
for for people of color for the contestants, and they
want mental health resources that they can be provided to
help navigate the Bachelor experience as people of color, and

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equal compensation UM and more people of color both on
the crew members and to pay them equitably. So this
go to Badge diversity. All the information is on there.
They're asking for a better pay as well. I think
that on you don't get paid until you're on paradise
unless you're the lead, and so it appears that don't

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make any money, no, because they're in a contest. But
but there it appears up for the crew members they're
trying to get better pay. So I have to say
it feels like this website and there's hashtags going, um,
what is its hashtag? B I P O C Bachelor
that's the campaign if you want to tweet at ABC,
it's hashtag b I p o C Bachelor And I

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think it would just make I mean, obviously, it would
make the whole viewing experience, like tweeted much more interesting,
tweeted the producers tweet at the show twee didn't quit
Chris Harrison to say, like, we need more diversity in
the show. And it's just like it doesn't represent real
life at all. And I just want to say, BIPOC
b I p o C. It stands for Black, Indigenous
and people of color. Uh. And it's weird because, uh,

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Mike Flice is like retweeting for the Black Lives Matter movement.
It's like, Okay, well put that into work, like you
should actually have people of color on your show. But
I'll also post about this on our Facebook page so
people can find it, and we will be tweeting out
as we will be joining in on this and and
and we think that yes, and it would make the

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show so much better. It would make the show so
much better. Okay, here we are. We watched last night.
It was the first I was so excited for this.
I was so excited to watch these playback seasons because
I didn't start till Kaitlin season, and I think I
would have enjoyed it more if it was two hours.
I don't know, it was a long. When they did

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the um Guinness record kiss in real time, I knew
we were screwed. I mean overall before we get started. Overall.
What were your thoughts watching this, everybody, Jerry, I didn't
get uh. I didn't get I didn't get too much
past Uh. Like Chris's office, Almo, Okay, let's start out.

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We start out. We're in Chris Harrison's office, his his
eighteen year old son who just graduated from high school
as his cameraman, which is cute. That being said, I'm like,
this is so But like Chris Harrison's office, here's my theory.
I I think ABC brought that art in because they
didn't want to license art, but they picked the like

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just this everything was like muddy wood and then this
insane kind of rainbow splatter painting that you could buy
at like a mall or like out of a van
by the highway. And then one lone library book, which
is which we're gonna have to do it. Rest fear
We're gonna have to do a book club on this.
I looked it up. He Chris Harrison wrote a novel.

(15:44):
It's a novel. It's called what makes you think that?
Why would you think he wrote a book, dude? Because
it was prominently displayed like right at his head level,
never mentioned like never in my books. And it's and
it's so he looked it up. I've been trying to find,

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like who ghost wrote it. It's called a Perfect Letter.
Apparently it's like a Nicholas Sparks book. I think it's
about a lady Anna. What's the tagline on it. I
think it's like a lady gets divorced and has to
move back to her hometown, like every Nicholas Sparks book.
But I couldn't you know he didn't write that like
you like? I mean, I hope he did. It's a novel.

(16:26):
It's not a memoir. It's not his time experience like hosting.
It's a novel. Yeah, It's about a woman who spent
ten years running away from her past. I mean, Chris Harry,
this is the book. He's got one book in him
and this is the book. This is what's Fascinatingtory he
was born to tell. Fascinating to me, about Chris Harrison
is that he's so he's so stiff when he's hosting,

(16:53):
but as soon as they're off camera they do the
behind the scenes stuff. He's actually pretty funny guy. He's charming,
but he's charming when he's reading is the que cards
or whatever, it's so stiff, Like why can't you a
little more chill? I think because he started in two
thousand and one and locked it in there, Like I
feel like I feel like even in our world, like

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auditions now have gotten since the office, and I think
I've gotten more casual and thrown away. They're like, we
do not want it doesn't need to sound like it
has to sound very conversational, and I think he started
before that kind of came to be. Maybe I would
say it almost this particular show requires him to be

(17:35):
robotic because I was looking when we'll talk about this
at the end, but like the whole end moment where
he's like to the two finalists like this is where
I leave you. I was like, this guy has such
a poker face to like pretend like, yes, I don't
know what's going to happen, and I'm not gonna happen,
but he knows I know. I'm you're about to be

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destroyed right now. I thought the same thing because she
was so sweet, The girl was so cute and watching
him poker face. No that this poor young woman who
was very charming, it was so emotionally attached and distant,
and it's like, it's it requires him to be the stiff,
robotic guy to like not care that we're putting a

(18:18):
bunch of women through an emotional ringer. Yeah, I have
a I have a fun fact for you guys, Jerry
from your partner in crime Laurie and uh the one
Pablo episodes will be resuming on Friday, so it'll be
up on Friday's. You guys can if you're like, if
you if you're Jones. And for j P, who has been,
by the way, commenting on all my Instagram posts. Whenever

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I put up that like an episode, he was like, really,
I would love to hear about this part. It's like, well,
it's Lincoln bio. Bro, it's free. It's pretty easy to Yeah,
when I say lazy bio, Yeah, he's okay. Like when
I when I say Lincoln bio, you could just go
click like like yeah, anyway, this is from Laurie. She's

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so sad she can't be joining all of us. Chris
Harrison after this season dated Ashley Fraser and and Selma.
I don't know who Selma is, but he dated two
ladies from the season, so this is I bet he
got divorced. I'm just guessing. I bet he got divorced

(19:21):
in because his son is eighteen, and like in the
next year, he's going hog wild. God, he dated Ashley,
she's so gorgeous. And when did he get divorced? When
did he get divorced after he started dating Ashley? Didn't
he didn't he date Andy? Am I crazy? Did date Andy? Yeah?

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There you go. So one year later he's like horny
dad on the loose. He's been married for a while
and now he's been looking at all. His nose has
been pressed against the candy shop at this point for
twelve years. And then yeah, exactly do you think that's
when he picked up that guitar and started laying down
some licks and some of writing that novel novel? He

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did not He did not date Andy. I had that wrong.
There was just rumors about that. Who is Selma? Will
you show us a screen grub of whose Selma is
from um from what's his name? Season? Who? Who are
we breaking down? Shan Low? So the year's two thousand thirteen.
It's just so this is a year before one Pablo
iron Man, three twerking selfies. And as we soon discover,

(20:34):
um fifty shades of Gray and shan Low, they start
out with the like the obligatory shower shot. I didn't
want to see that. I don't want to see a
sunburned man. I don't know the beefcake shower shot. Ka,
Katie Anna, how do you feel about the beefcake shower shot? Um?
I you know, it was like I was like, ah, yes,

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a classic shot. He was sunburn he was sunburned. Because
now that all the guys have to remember Colton Luke
found Jesus while doing that. Luke, Yeah, that's right, the
shower shot. I sent a photo of Salma. She was
the one at the end who was in the car
while he kept stalling it or whatever was going on.
Oh she's she's a cutie pie too. Okay, there we go. Okay,

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all right, So um, so we see we meet shan
Low and he's standing in a park talking to a
like espousing on love to a group of old men,
Like who's he talking to? And he's like, let me
tell you what I think about love. Um, I didn't
understand that. I'm like, what is happening? Like he felt
like is he a preacher? Like what's going on here? What?

(21:41):
What was that? I don't understand. He was like in
a park too, and all these old guys. I didn't
interrupted one of those like chess places in New York.
It's just like, hey, let's listen to me about love.
It was Katie Anna. Did you guys watch this season?
I did. Did you like him? Yeah? I remember thinking
he was like boring but he's not enough. Yeah, because

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he was just like and honestly, like now in retrospect,
seeing how he is, he's like one of the only bachelors,
I feel like that actually kind of knows how the
real world works. Like he seems very like down to earth,
you know, and it seems like he U is a
good person. And yeah, I mean a little before Instagram,
but that I think is the big thing. And we

(22:25):
talked about this on our Juan Pablo season where it's
like this is before Instagram and this is before Bachelor
in Paradise. So so the ladies. The main goal here.
Bachelor Paradise happened after Juan Pablo season, so there was
no residual fame or anything afterwards. Like so when these

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people they haven't talked to normally, if you made it
the final two, you're you're set for three years selling
self tanner from Instagram now. And you can see it
in the girls too. They all just seem so much
more down to earth and real unless they're on there,
like there's not as many ulterior motives. Yeah, it was.
It made a more fun game because you actually felt
like they were there to find love. Um. So he's

(23:10):
standing in a park and and um, and we see
Desiree tossing a bouquet and a store and it's smashing
into the chandelier, which I enjoyed. We have um uh,
we just sort of meet everybody, and um we see
a woman pull a tie, Like so we're at the

(23:31):
mansion and a woman pulls a tie out of her
dress and she's like, can you teach me how to
use this later? And he literally because it was right
at the height of fifty chads a great and he
just stared at her like he had no idea, Like
Anna's enjoying that he's just like, you want me to
show you how to tight He's so vanilla that he literally,

(23:53):
we want me to show you how to do a
wins winds half winds Lady, what do you want? He
literally you could see that his brain didn't get it
until later on she pulled it out again and then
like I loved her crying exit, which is like he
missed out he could have fucked me. And it was like,
by the way, it sounded like she said something else.

(24:17):
What do you think she said? I think she said
he could have if to me because she's talking about
She's like, look at this barbie ass, and then she
said it. It was two words that they bleaped. Oh
my god. I mean, honestly, if this is Shawn low

(24:41):
season and knowing like what a nice sort of churchgoing
younger man he is is, he Mormid thought that she
that she would go say he could have a ft
me is incredible, Like that would make sense because he's
born again virgin. Ye, so if it's like you know how,

(25:03):
they're like, well, in yes, it doesn't matter, I kind
of FEUs about the born again virgin things. So that
meant like, why did he why was it okay for
him to lose it? And then like who did he
lose it to? Like do we know the story of
his virginity, of his sex. We didn't make it as
big of a deal of it. Yeah, I was trying

(25:24):
to remember. I remember. I just remember he's Mormon. That's
all I remember. I thought she was a virgin too.
She didn't seem like it. She was like I kind
of no, no, no, the one who no, because we
we just rewatched because we've been watching one Pablo season
and we saw there was because they were right before this,

(25:46):
so they ket caring them. And it seemed like she
made jokes about how disappointing their honeymoon night was, and
like you got the feeling. I think he just decided
to wait, decided they were going to get married, they
were gonna wait. I think for him, I think she
was DTF and I knew he wasn't. And then she

(26:08):
kept making jokes about how like he was a good
two pump jump, like yeah, he was, like I know,
And it's interesting watching this now, watching how horny she
is for him and then knowing how disappointing their honeymoon
was so hot for him and she's so cute. Okay,

(26:28):
So so then we have um Lindsay comes out of
the limo. She's a she's in a bridal dress, and
she calls herself ae prankster and then says, who does this?
Who does this? She's got balls about herself and he was,
let's hope not. And I thought I kind of really

(26:49):
liked her, Like she was like she was me if
I lived in New Jersey and wasn't a professional comic
and You've given me four glasses of champagne and you
made me be on the batch. Learned like, which is you?
I related to her? I'm not her, but I could
see how you could get me to be her in

(27:09):
a different universe. It was adorable, how I mean because
it was a lot and it's like, oh this, And
I liked how she was like I think I blew it.
I think I blew it. I think I went. I
came on to like that self awareness was kind of refreshing. Yeah,
was trying something and I don't think it worked well. Also,
I felt like what I liked about her and her

(27:30):
journey is it made me like him where that he
gave her a second chance, that like this is a
pretty square guy, and like he the fact that she
kissed him right out of the gate. A lot of
guys would be excited about that. And for him, he said,
it was just a peck on the mouth, and he said,
we're already making out like he is not, he said,
making it so he seems like a really bad kisser,

(27:51):
do you it's such a bad kisser, be such a
bad kisser. Tongue just squeezed between his lips. Lips like, oh,
such a bad kisser. I mean, the world record for
bad kissing coming up. Oh my god. That. I just
kept being like, please because I had to watch that
part this morning because my my DVR didn't record the
first hour. So I was like watching that kiss like,

(28:15):
like you know, on like two hours of sleep at
eight am was a rude way to start. How many
French presses did you get through? Three? Three? It was
so and I kept being like I just kept wanting
it to stop, like I've never wanted a kiss to
stop more, even including a bad one on my own.
And Chris Harrison's commentary, way wait, wait, wait, wait, okay,

(28:35):
we're almost there. One question real quick, What does shan
Low do for a living? What does he do for
a living, Katie Anna, he looked like because it's a pilot.
I was like, what is this guy? What does he do? What?
I'm currently his Wikipedia says television personality. So it's hard

(28:56):
to say, but I wonder if Wikipedia, I wonder if
he was the Division nine football player somewhere. It just
talks about God. Apparently they're on like Christian Church TV.
I don't know. It doesn't say what he did for this. Um, okay,
let's say he feels like a Mormon. I don't know.

(29:20):
When he said, somebody said we should scream and then
they all screamed. It again made me uncomfortable. It's like
a group of people being crazy, you know, and I
just it makes me panic. Things like that, Like it's
like I'm seeing that he's an insurance agent that tracks
and that track art and he nailed it. He did play.

(29:41):
He had a football scholarship through college. What what school said?
Texas A and M, Texas A and and M and then
Kansas State University and what divisions that, Katie, That's that's
the real deal, right, I think? So? Yeah, he took
part in the two thousand three Big Twelve Championship game.
There you go. I guess there's a big thing I

(30:04):
don't know anything about. And he is a Christian, he's
not Mormon, and there's a lot of articles about his
board again, Virginity, oh please look, kept did a secret.
The actual Pacers didn't like use it against him on
the show. Laurie Saidenly came out after the show aired
that it came out after Shock changed so much, like

(30:27):
this was so much better, you know maybe um side note,
this has nothing to do with the show, Katie and
tribute to you and Aaron Foley and Lorie. I watched
the Michael Jordan documentary The Whole Thing, and I loved it.
It's so good And now I like Michael Jordan's as
much as I like the fest and Furious friend Guy

(30:48):
as a one human being, as exciting as Vin Diesel
and the Rock and Jason Statham, and I loved it.
That's why they say Michael Jordan is the Vin Diesel.
I'm sure he love that. He seems like a guy
that would love hearing that. I'm actually I'm taking some
hints from him. I'm I'm using any slight spite against

(31:08):
me to people by being like that's all I needed.
I mean honestly when So, for those of you who
haven't watched, I can't believe I picked this, but I did.
I was like, I read so many good reviews of it,
like fine, fine, fine, I don't know his sports. I'll
watch the last dance And now the only thing that
means anything to me is the nine three through Bulls

(31:29):
season champions whatever. Here's the deal. If I could take
people saying bad things about me and fuel it into success,
I would be a much richer person and probably happier.
I don't know. Okay, so we have, um, yeah, a
little bit of a bum sky barbias. There we go.

(31:50):
So then um, then we see Leslie. Now Leslie I
only know from Bachelor Winter Games where she dated Dean.
She looks different with her hair longer. You both ways, um,
And he asked what she's there for. She says, I'm
here for love. I'm hopeful, and then every time he's
about to go and for a kiss, she gets nervous
and make jokes. To be fair to her, he had

(32:11):
a lot of openings and if somebody's just staring at you,
not kissing, I'm gonna make jokes. He didn't, he didn't.
He hasn't there like a cardboard cutout, and he's like
and he's like jokes, and it's like, well do something.
You're you're just staring at her, like it's so awkward.
What is she supposed to do? You're not doing anything? Jabbroni?

(32:35):
It was what is it? JABRONI? I love that. I
don't know, don't put me on the spots. I know
that wrestler always tweets about being a Jabroni. Okay, the
iron sheet, the iron cheek always talks about I googled it.
It's in dictionary dot com and it says a foolish
or contemptible person he has ABRONI. I mean, rob fool

(33:00):
Did you think that she was right to be making?
I mean he had like eighty eight windows to kiss
her and he didn't take any of them. Yeah, he
really doesn't have any game. He really doesn't with that.
He can't kiss. First of all, he kissed me, like
cringe whenever they he kissed anybody. He is because he's
so beefy hunky. You know, he was just a football stud.

(33:23):
He's just an aryan dream. He has never had to
work for romance. I'm sure it was just thrown at
him his entire life and had to cultivate a good
sort of game, as I want to say for the record,
And he seems like a lovely, kind gentleman and a
nice husband and a good father. He could not be

(33:45):
less my type. He is so not my type. There
is nothing about him that is my type. Nothing. He's
a good hearted he seems a good heart. He's got
a good heart. He doesn't seem to have anything malicious
about He's sweet and romantically he's just like us, Katie.

(34:07):
Would you make out with him? I don't know. I
don't know. Probably not. I mean, he's very nice. You know,
I would hang out with him. It sounds like a
nice dude. Hannah. Would you make out with him? Maybe
I was like drunk, Yeah, I was drunk. If I
was drunk, I would have a bad kiss with him
in an Okay, So even though he's not my type,

(34:29):
I'm more out of curiosity. I've never made out with
like a beefy guy. The funny thing, too, is it's
odd that he's Catherine's type. Oh my god, you know
what I mean, Like this is my dream guy. This,
this is it. This is like my vision board, and
you picture her with like a really hip you know,
kind of doesn't it make sense? Doesn't it make sense
to you? Though? When she says later about how like

(34:52):
she's been passed over, she's been seen, it's like the
fat girl, Oh my god, It's like she's probably been
idolizing guys like this since high school, which is like, right,
I wish I could be with the football captain. Right. Right.
She's a she's a late bloomer, which is so rare
on this show. We don't have a lot of late bloomers,
or whether or maybe she wasn't even a late bloomer,
but she was in a mean environment that made her

(35:12):
feel bad about herself for no reason, you know, one
or the other. But she didn't know. He's right, she's
the catch. She's adorable. Okay, so we have Leslie. Leslie
was oh my other sister that family the Gamble whoa adorable?
So Leslie is there, Leslie sexy doing a sexy photo
shoot and um, and then they go and we're at

(35:35):
the record, the record for the longest the Guinness Book
of Rolls record longest on screen kissed Jerry I ever
watched You'd glossed right past that sexy photo shoot because
she looked good. She did look at she had yeah
she did. She did like she could have rose. And

(35:56):
by the way, she's fun and cute. She was on
Winter Games and she was fun and we like Leslie
about it. We like Leslie um so that that kiss.
I mean, did anybody not scream? Watching this at home?
I was like screech and it was eight am, screeching,
covering my face, praying that they would stop. Like this

(36:17):
was honestly more uncomfortable for me to watch in real
time than already breaking up with Beckett in that Airbnb.
This felt like it went on equally as long, and
it was so painful. Rob, what was your reaction watching this? Kids?
I couldn't believe they showed the whole thing in a
clip show. Yeah, I know, I I desire to really

(36:38):
wanted to fast forward over it. It just Yeah, it
was really painful. But really it was painful because I
didn't know what happened, and so I was like, oh, like, oh,
they're doing this in real time. They must they must
sail at minute one. Yeah, they must break up heart
or something like that. Oh no, oh, we're at minutes
They're gonna do this. I can't and and Chris going

(37:01):
up to the audience being like the craziest thing ever.
I mean, to be fair, it actually is a really
good date for the Bachelor. It's a terrible date for
a clip show. And when you realize they're wasting your
time and it should have been two hours, three hours.
That was the third hour. You throw in a couple

(37:22):
of commercial breaks, like it was like, don't waste my time.
I'll give you two hours and I'll love it. You're
taken three t Are you out of programming? Like is it?
They're out? They've aired everything, they've done, every zoom thing
they can do. They're out. I'm mad at the length
of this, but that's fine. And then you notice I

(37:45):
was gonna say they kept saying how great, like they
had the like commentary over Sean and the girl saying
how great the kiss was, and it had it literally
there was a point where Sean was like, it was
such a great kids, you know, and it just showed
the like not just lifts together, not moving Okay, you
know what was what was worse to watch this or

(38:08):
the record kiss between Carly and Evan with the pepper
in their mouth and the spit string in Paradise. What worse.
That was at least entertaining. Yeah, you're right, because that
was disgusting. That was at least disgusting. They should recap.
That was a great I would happily watch a recap
of that season with his hospital trips. Oh my god,

(38:28):
that was a great season. The Paradise seasons I recap.
Oh my god, yes that Paradise. Jerry, just get ready.
But you know it's gonna It's not gonna be like
when we're gonna get who knows. Newsome is just like
you know what, movid we're opening. Here we go. Maybe
we'll get Maybe we'll get I mean, I'm not leaving

(38:51):
my house, but maybe the maybe we'll get Paradise. I'm
afraid for what the next two weeks are going to
hold for us. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. Okay. So then we have um so,
then we have him coming into the wherever they're staying,
waking up all the girls with a camera, which felt
like why do you need to photograph them? Like and
they all look great, but like why are you coming

(39:13):
and photographing them for ye? And um So then we
meet uh we, oh, okay. So then he goes on
a date with Ashley Fraser, Chris Harrison's future girlfriend, and um,
we find out that she was adopted at the age
of six. And then when her dad first met him,

(39:33):
she had she was at the gas station, her arms
were crossed. It was her birthday and she didn't want
to go with him, and he said, if you come
with me, we'll get a bigger, better birthday party. And
that's when he fell in love with her. And then
and then sweet Sean Lowe starts crying. I mean, she
was lovely. And then he's like, she has the biggest heart.
Jerry rob what did you guys think of this? It

(39:59):
was was That's one of those things where it's like,
I don't want to say the story. I get the
story was very sweet and it was a sweet memory.
All right. Let me put it like this, if I
were a writer and I were writing the story about

(40:20):
like what the father would say, you mean, like Chris
Harrison of the Perfect Letter, If I were writing a
perfect letter, if I were done jamming some Clapton and
I put my sweet Ovation acoustic guitars to write my
novel A Perfect Letter in my home office that looks
like a Ramada and lobby. I was, what if I

(40:43):
were writing that story the father meeting the new adopted daughter,
it wouldn't be the story wouldn't be, Hey, I'll throw
you a better birthday party and then come. It just
seems I know, I don't know. That seemed a little

(41:04):
kind of and she was like, that's when I knew
he he was in love with me. And I was like,
everything about that story, the way you're telling it sounds
like good guys saying, hey, if you get in my van,
there's a lot more candy and there. I know that's
a really left up, dark, cynical thought, but like the
story just didn't you know, Arden, you're pointing at yourself

(41:26):
because you had the same thought. I thought similar things.
It was the phrasing. Now I also have to say,
because I had I had a terrible dad. So let
me also just say, I don't have like a sweetie
pie dad that I think of sweeti pie dad think.
So I think my dad filter is on the darker.
The thought of my dad saying that to me it
is very good in my van, not oh God. And

(41:48):
I hate to even say it because that's her emotional story,
and I was like, yes, wow, you know that's a
great story. Oh man, we should have polished it a
little bit. She should have gone Chris Harrison when she
said a perfect letter day, which she eventually did. Would
she Yes, she did, Yes she did. I don't know

(42:13):
how many seasons Chris dipped his toe in the company
pool at the castop party before they were like, hey,
you might not want to date all the contestants. Interesting,
I'm surprised there's not a time's up. Me too, sich
in there with the power dynamic. I mean, that's the thing.
I think. It's like, it's probably good that he got
it done quickly and like around, like it was far enoughful,

(42:37):
like you know, and he doesn't seem like a creeper.
But it's it's probably a good thing that maybe they
nipped that in the bud after. I mean, I don't know,
maybe there were I should text Laurie and find out
if there was. M he's dating a reporter. I looked
it up. He's dating a reporter from entertainment tonight, when
we we'll talk more about that when we come back.

(43:03):
What is your fantasy you and we're back, Anna, what
do you have to say, she's like reports on the
Bachelor they met because she's like a Bachelor recapper. He's
so deep in, He's drunk all the cold, He's so
deep in, I mean anywhere else he wonder Also, why

(43:23):
did he get divorced? Did he have crushes? You know
what I mean? Like or was he just done? And
I'm like, I know I've had a few friends that
have gotten divorced and all of the husband's, all of
the dad's just go batshit for like a year, you know,
like and you know that he has all of these
access to it. He's like the nice rich guy in

(43:45):
the mansion that they've all trusted is Chris Harrison. Like
he's got like the perfect He's got an office with
an oversized wooden desk from frustration hardware, and like a
really bad like the the the front of the fireplay
like that. Every single contestant the plaster fireplace. I mean

(44:05):
every single contestant. Some people had the grand homes, but
like even if it was more of like I mean,
I personally have an Ikea kitchen, and I can spot
like there was a very cute Ikea kitchen behind one
of the content, Like even that looked better than this
crazy plaster which you know was not cheap, and like
put some candles in it or something. Dude, like he
had a pile of he had a pile of roses,

(44:28):
not in a vase, just lying on his desk, almost dead,
almost almost gasping for water, lying on his desk, waiting. Okay,
so then we have um. Then we oh, then he
goes on this first one and one with Sarah, who's
so cute, who I got to know in Bachelor in
Paradise when I thought she was falling in love with

(44:50):
Daniel the Canadian. Um. She is just adorable, and he
took her on a one on one date, which I know,
I believe. I forget one of these gentlemen here, like myself,
is afraid of heights. I believe I can't remember which
one of you is. The thought of the thought of
going free falling pretty quickly, pretty quickly off of a

(45:13):
three foot tower for a Champagne toast. I that didn't
look fun to me. I know Jerry didn't want to
do that. Well, here's the thing, here's what I'm gonna
say about that I would do this because here's the difference.
So when there when Juan Pablo is repelling into backwards
into an abyss. You're in control of that, right, That's

(45:36):
my fear is that I will lose control. But if
I'm harnessed into something, into a contraption like a roller
coaster or something like that where it's not about my
sweaty palms, yeah, I can be like, but what about
pilot pilot Pete leaning back on the bridge missing No, Yeah,

(45:57):
because again it's that it's like I have to lean
back over and I'm not going to do My body
will physically not moved. Terry, I can't believe you've still
not seen any bachelorette. You've now seen three bachelor's and
listen to your heart. You've had the strangest experience of
this fanchili and it's colored. It's colored an opinion that

(46:20):
will get to Okay, great, you've never seen a bachelor. Friends,
they all responded a certain way, and I was like, wow, okay,
maybe I'm you've not seen a bachelorette and you've not
seen Paradise, but you have seen the weirdest generation except
for Winter Games. You did see listen to my Heart,
which is crazy. Um and then three and then Juan
Pablo Peter Pilot and now this this is a strange

(46:45):
you've seen a strangest story. I have a very postmodern bachelor. Okay,
so they go, um, and I just thought it was
so sweet. I love now. This was a good story
that she like, just her story of how white that
day that he went meant so much to her because
she was in Vegas with her dad and she wanted

(47:05):
to go zip lining. And then as they're about to go,
they said this state law prohibited people with disabilities from
going zip lining, which is crazy. I've gone zip lining
with like a three year old, like it's it's My
jaw was on the floor when she started talking about it.
This was after they did the zip drop. Yeah, and
she starts going my father and I was like if

(47:28):
her father died on a zip line freak out, yes
yeah yeah yeah yea yeah yeah yeah. And then she said,
you gave me the faith encourage I could do it.
And then he said I considerself myself a man, and
I feel like a man should protect you. That bothered
me a little bit me too. I did have as Again,
that was very fourteen. I don't think you'd say today. Um.

(47:52):
Lourie said that there was again, this is all Lorie
Outside was our Bachelor historian apparently one of the contestants,
and I don't know if this is or not, so
this could just be the guy the gas. One of
the contestants came out after this season and said she
had a problem that I guess. In one of their
one on one conversations, he asked her how she felt
about the husband being the leader of the household, which

(48:16):
again is uh uh for me, for me an alarm belt. Look,
it's just one of those things that is known, but
you don't say out Wow then so she says, but
it was so sweet. She's not hiding anymore. Oh my god.
That we meet up with her and she's with Dylan

(48:38):
and they go rafting every other day. That's a lot
of rafting and uh no, but she's in love. They've
been together for three years. They go rafting, he seems
really sweet. They go like hiking all the time where
they're dependent on each other. I always liked her. What
did you guys think seeing Sarah's it seems like all
the contestants were thriving. Yeah, yeah, they all seem like

(49:01):
they're doing well. She um, yeah. I always loved her.
I always wanted some happiness for her. She seems like
she found it. There was something about her guy that
bothered me a little bit. I don't know anybody that's
just like, I'm all action. I take her out, I
don't care that you've got one arm, get her the water,
drown her a little bit. That's that's when all of

(49:27):
the Australian bachelor's are like, you know not, would you agree?
All of the Australian they're like it's streams, like even
just starting New Zealand this week, it's like, I want
to get her in a bunge, I want to throw
her out of my plane. We wanna tie. I'm gonna
put her backwards off of this and we're gonna go
Like it's like they're so extreme or like, how do
you know that you can truly love unless you fall

(49:50):
out a plane with me? And it's there's a lot
of that and if you don't want to do it,
you're out to do it. Get ready to just want
to curl up next to my plaster fireplaces, unlit cold.
Read a few pages from The Perfect Letter, Just Dog Year,
chapter three. That's where it gets to play a little

(50:12):
bit of a few Neil Young Chords and just play
wild thing bumm. So then um, so then we have
the most fun person and this entire thing I wish

(50:35):
it was spelled with an A, but it's close enough
to the word Tiara for me. This is the fact
that her name is Tiara is incredible. She's a leasing agent, um,
and she's got an open heart tattoo on her finger,
and she's the I don't know if she's the original.
I'm not here to make friends, but she's not here
to meet friends. She's here to meet Sean and she's
not gonna let any of the girls stop her. And

(50:56):
they have fireworks and she's did a good job for Wow,
she's had appeared that for a little moment in time.
She kept up being really good on dates with him
and really really shitty in the house and um, but
I loved Leslie saying that she's moping on a couch
or moping in a corner. Tierra is the most unhappy

(51:17):
person I have ever come in contact with. And then
she says, I honestly wish I was a fighter because
I beat the ship out of all these bitches. And
sheard like this, which he rewarded with the rose and
then she goes in line I get that one. I went,
I'm a professional getting out what I want. And then
she threw herself down the stairs and the firefighters before

(51:40):
the stairs. That moment that you're talking about, that was
real creepy where she smiles at the camera. Yeah, oh
this chick, she's crazy. She was crazy. I mean then
she's like so then the Tierra Drama, she's the master
manipulator and um, she's They're up in Canada at Lake

(52:03):
Louise and they did the polar Bear plunge and to
be fair, she did actually look like she was having hypothermia,
but like watching at her and her sequin bikini with
her mess garat dripping, like shaking, shaking and can't breathe,
and then she was like you can't. She was like
her sparkle was there, and um, and then I had

(52:27):
a problem with she's she's the O G bad girl
on the show. Like I just feel like at this
point that the show was really doing well. I feel
like they and and and like we were saying earlier,
was before Instagram, people were less uh aware of where
it was all going on the bastoot right, so, um,
it was like oh, here's another bad girl, you know

(52:48):
she But the one thing about that that bothered me
was that they weren't prepared, like the fact that she
was having these weird shakes and all that stuff. They
had then they had to walk her like a mile
to find out. Thinking, Oh my god, why were they
I was going to say they had these teeny little
blankets they were throwing over. It was like it was
like a marathon blanket. Yeah. I was gonna say the

(53:08):
same exact thing. I was like, where are the paramedics.
They're like loading her into a suburban after like carrying
her over like a rope footage or something. I was
like to be there or the paramedics. They just jumped
into sub zero, icy cold water and they had no prep.
I mean, to be fair to her, even I'm sure

(53:30):
she's a drama queen, I don't think anybody could act
like she was. Her body literally looked like it was
shutting down like I think she. I think she did
have her I mean it was zero degrees and she
was in a gold string bikini like her. I don't
think you could fake her like her vitals were going well.

(53:51):
I'm not going to go that far. I don't buy it.
I didn't buy it. It looked very I think if
she were truly shutting down, it would she I don't know,
she's just she's being hysterical. And it seemed it seemed overblown. Yeah,
given her history, I thought it was overblowned. But regardless,

(54:11):
they should have had been more prepared for something like that.
They just work. Yes, they brought in these like teeny
little like hand towels or trying to wrap her under
her It was hand towels. It wasn't those nylon. It
was those nylon like you finished the marathon, but there
was nothing in a north face windbreaker. I'm surprised more

(54:34):
people haven't been hurt on this show. I know. Yeah, um,
that did seem grossly negligent, like just from a production standpoint,
I was like, I can't believe they didn't get sued
for this. So then Ashley goes on a date with
him and he asked about her in the house and
she was like, well, she puts on her powty pants
with the girls. But then and then Tierra was like,

(54:55):
Ashley said some stuff about me. I'm confronting her. Some
people have sabotage on their mind. Then you know, it's
your character that you come across as rude. She says,
you don't say hi to anybody, And I feel like
they were friends, and then they weren't. And then the
best thing it was like, I cannot. I can't control
my eyebrow. I cannot control my eyebrow. I haven't had botox.

(55:18):
And my mom said, don't you have sparkle. Don't let
anybody steal your sparkle. Um, I have such a big heart.
I'm so scared. Her reaction to being called rude. You
furrow your eyebrow. That's just my face. Yeah, that's my face.
I can't help it. I've had no botox. My parents say, Tiara,

(55:40):
you have sparkle. Do not let those girls take your sparkle.
Like I cannot, I cannot control my eyebrow. What was
the sparkle line? In reaction to it was like you,
she was like, she said, your mom, even your parents,
even your parents don't like you. I think it was
basically right. And your parents said, uh, to be nice
to the girls or something like that. Yeah, don't be

(56:02):
don't mean, don't be mean to the girls, or something
like that. No, that's not what what do you do
if you give birth to a kid that you need
to be like, come on, be a human being for once.
So like does fake? Don't be the like the demon that,
like what do you do if you because some people
do just get born as bad, Like what do you

(56:22):
do if you give birth to somebody? You rephrase it
and you say, you know what, You've got a sparkle,
a sparkle. They're just jealous people. And then I love
that she goes her friend goes, go to your cot,
go to your cot, and then go to your because

(56:44):
she wouldn't sleep in the room. I've never seen a
woman on a cot in the show. And she wouldn't
sleep with the other girls, so she insisted on a
cot in a separate room. So they're like, go think
about what you did. You go take a moment on
your cot and think about what you did. So then
Sean comes in and we heard Tiaras and tear Or
is on the cot and he's like, Tierra talked to me.
She's like, it's such a big hurt. I'm so scared.

(57:06):
I gotta be honest with you. I confronted some person.
That person sabotaged our connection. He was like, tell Tiara
tell me who okay actually, and then he was like
and then he was like, okay, well, I think it's
best if you go home now. And then she was
weeping in the minivan like I can't mala any get
into me. Um and um uh it was amazing. I

(57:31):
loved it. Didn't the minivans seem old too? Oh now
we've got the automatic doors. And the fact that he
had like and it was also that she had to
climb up and into the back like normally. I feel
like a like a suburban or something you're normally like
like a suburban or an escalator taking away this was
she I felt like she had to like climb over
a seat that was pushed forward to get into like

(57:53):
a hatchback. Yeah. I didn't notice that station wagon. It
felt like it. It was like climb over the back
seat and just go like, think about how you've behaved.
She I'm sad that I missed her. I feel that
that would I would have enjoyed a Tiara. Um. So
then we have um. But by the way she got

(58:14):
the first impression Rose, he was clueless. He was anna,
what did you think she was? She was cute? Yeah,
I mean she seemed a little high maintenance. I mean,
like anyone. I mean, I'm sure she also has had botox.
I don't really. Anytime someone yells immediately I have not
had botox, that's a red flag. You're like, okay, so okay,

(58:35):
I would you just bring that up because no one
said botox. I don't know. Yeah, we were talking about
your your expression, rude, your rudeness to us. I've never
had book I have never. How dare you? I've never
As you can tell from my face, I'm relaxed and

(58:57):
so just I've never had boos. For those of you
at home, Arden is pulling her up over her scalp.
So it's okay if you've had botox, like nobody cares.
I think at that point in time, it was more
shocking to have had bow. This does beg the question
do they have to pay her again to re air this?

(59:20):
Nobody gets paid unless you're the lead. But I mean
they're re airing this as like a new show. Do
you think they had to like negotiate? I think because
it's like I think you signed like life rights away
to them. I think basically they own a girl to relive,
like because if this was just a bad moment in
her life. I just think it would be traumatic to

(59:41):
relive that. I'm giving her the benefit. I don't think
I'm sure she's like this in real life. I'm sure
she's that you look for her on Instagram because they
were saying, like, no one's heard from Tiara. It's like
you're telling me that that she's she wouldn't come back.
You're telling me she's not. Like I'm sure she's doing
something on Instagram like he made a It seemed like
no one knows where she is. I doubt that. That

(01:00:03):
felt unbelievable to make me. I just would not want to.
You'd have to pay me a lot for me to
agree to. I think you sign your life rights away.
Is that the word imper perpetuity? Perpetuity? I think you
signed some ana saying they can do whatever they want
with this footage for the rest of it, and they
can edit it however they can. I think you sign

(01:00:25):
away basically they can edit you however they want. Well,
this sounds like a great deal. Sign all right. Well,
her Instagram is private? WHOA, Yeah, apparently I found an
article that says she's very private now because every picture
is just an injury that she used to stand. That's
surprising because you feel like somebody like that would want

(01:00:46):
to like really milk it. Or with all the firefighters
and paramedics she's met along the way, I guess she
has she has a fiance. Okay, lucky guy and that's
all you know. Okay. Um, So then we have so

(01:01:11):
we have Lindsay Um and Desiree, and we go Desiree, Um, Desiree.
He really thought he was going to propose to desire
They make it to the hometown. We have Lindsay, Catherine
Ashley and Desiree, and Um, desire was a front runner.

(01:01:31):
And then she was fun to be with. I could
see myself proposing to Desiree. And then Um, then we
meet her brother where she says Nate, where he says
mind of a hollow at you real fast. He was
so psyched to have his clothes. He was so ready.
He reminded me for our for our Patreon listeners who

(01:01:53):
have been with us from the beginning. He reminded me
of terror as brother that that interrogated Maddie J when
they went to go meet Maddie J. Like the douche
hothead brother that's just ready to go. So Nate goes, um, wow,
it seems like she's passionate about you not gonna work.
I don't think it's reciprocation. Not reciprocation. There is that

(01:02:13):
crazy about a lot of girls. Aren't you You just
a playboy having fun with all the circumstances. He was like,
are you calling me a fraud? She's like, sorry about
my brother basically, and you get the feeling they're not
even friends, although she did say like I am who
I am because I grew up with a brother, But like,
you got the feeling that this guy's like a loose cannon.

(01:02:34):
That was a pain in the ass. He was like, oh,
I'll be at the dinner, and she's like, really, Neil
or Nate, you really don't have to come. He's like, oh,
I'll be there, you know, And um, you wonder if
he ruined it. Laurie said she was a great contestant
and a very dull bachelorette. She was why he She

(01:02:55):
said she was so fun on Shawn season and then
so boring when she was the bachelor. So the happened.
I didn't really transfer over it, but it worked out
well for her, you know. But I remember being so
angry at that brother because he really you were rooting
for her and he ruined it. I mean, guys, if
you take a woman home and she has a brother
like that, and you have three other women who are
interested in are you gonna let are you brother? You are?

(01:03:18):
That's going to be enough to be like no, thank you,
not just it's not just like, oh, her brother is
a little okay, this dude this I was impressed with
Shawn's restraint. Yeah, this dude straight up attacked him. Yeah.
It was like the accusatory, condescending flip tone of like

(01:03:41):
you're just a playboy. You're just like you're just fucking
with these girls. You're just like playing around treating him
like shit, aren't you. And he's just like, well, I
my character, you know, I hold my character very which
is true because this is socking this dude across the
the chin. Yeah. Yeah, like he was. He That was

(01:04:04):
truly awful. JoJo's brothers were of a little bit like
that to Ben Higgins. They were a little after they
kissed her on the mouth, and then they were they
kissed her on the mouth. They've been on there, they've
been on their own dating show, and they were like oh,
you want a dating shows? Like then we looked them
up and like they've been on a dating show. So

(01:04:25):
then we have she said, we meet her now, she's
not very close with her brother. She's hesitant saying it. Uh.
Then we see pilot Pete with Kelly Um and I
guess she was saying how he kept pointing out why
he cut her. She just kept complaining about her white
sneakers being dirty. And then Barb shows up and does

(01:04:47):
give me a kike. So why is Barbe there? Why
is barbecause he lives with his mom. He lives with
his parents. He lives with his parents. What the fuck?
Oh no, you didn't know that he lived at home.
He lives at home. But then Chris Harrison saying, you're

(01:05:07):
my neighbor. Yeah, they live in like Calabasas or like
like Thousand Oaks, and they love line dancing, and he
lives with us. He's never moved out. She's a nightmare.
That would be a nightmare situation. She is the I
can't imagine a mom needing more attention that you have
to deal. But Kelly seems up for it. Oh my god,

(01:05:31):
Barb Barbe is ready for her clothes up. But he
still he lives at home. So ardon do you were
you surprised that they're together. I've known it wasn't only
that big of an announcement because it's been all over Instagram.
I mean, they were quarantined together. They do like cameos together. Okay.
I have to say, of all the women, I liked her,
and so I didn't think that she got a bad edit.

(01:05:54):
Maybe at the end it seemed like she was too
smart for it. I think she was like, what am
I doing here? And I feel like it was he
always destined to go back to her. I mean, was
that pre planned. It kind of feels that way that
like he's really wasted. It wasn't razing the season. I mean,
it feels like he really liked her, and then she
wouldn't play the I mean, I feel like he always

(01:06:16):
wanted to pick her and she wouldn't play the game.
She didn't play the game. She wouldn't play the game.
But I felt like he really wanted her to win.
And it was his line about you know, you're in
this moment you're supposed to be You're supposed to be
telling me how you feel about me, but you're like
complaining about your white sneakers. And it's like that was
very telling, Like the cameras are on us, You're supposed

(01:06:39):
to be doing this like heartfelt moment. But she wouldn't
play a lot. It's it's bs like let's just have
fun together, you know what I mean. Like she gave
him that hand job in the Embassy, Yeah, she gave
the hands out at the Four Seasons West, Like I mean,
but she actually has a job. She was actually an adult,
Like she's a lawyer. She actually appears to actually pray,

(01:07:00):
does law like you know, Like she to me felt
like the most the biggest grown up on this and
she looking at her, They're like she looked stunning and happy,
like she seemed more she seemed more relaxed, and like
they were cute. I was happy for them, but I
was also like, why did you waste that season? Was

(01:07:21):
so boring? So boring? He was such a bad bachelor
that he lives with his mom though, that's I mean, yeah,
I got a sense in her body she's gonna be like,
we gotta fix this. By the way, I don't care.
I don't care that you're a pilot and you're never
at home. I'm when when there's no quarantine. I'm barely
at home, but I didn't live in my parents basement
to save money, like you get like like if you're

(01:07:44):
twenty and you're the bachelor and people are competing to
win you, you move out, like get a studio somewhere,
especially to be expensive. That's your mom. That's your mom.
That's your mom. Your mom wants to marry you. Like
it's time to go, you know, adda hi ada hi ada. Hey, Yeah,

(01:08:06):
barn is not because doesn't he say like they're going
to move to New York or something like I've always
wanted to live in New York. Like Barb is gonna
let you move to New York. Barbe is gonna get
a flattened Hoboken. Yeah, by the way, that's all Kelly.
She's like, we're getting Yes, it's far away from and
they have to do that before. Always love to live

(01:08:28):
in New York. Pater and Barb is like getting the
handcuffs to chain them to like the heater and the basement,
just saying, I mean barb situation craves the spotlight like
she's been so ready for her clothes. It's bar now again,

(01:08:51):
it is Barbara. You got to move out. If you're
mom on came yall like it's time, it's time, she's
gotta be We look up a barbed If Barbed Webber
is on cameo and let me know, we'll move right back.

(01:09:14):
I don't know about you, but things are getting so hot.
I think I gotta take I'll pe your break and
we're back. Any word on it. If barb is on cameo,
do we find barbed on cameo? Yes, she is? How
much is she? Can? I guess fifty? Basically? Yeah? God,

(01:09:44):
I mean other contestants, she's overcharging it. She feels high.
There you go. If your mom is on cameo and tiktop,
it might be time to move out of your Okay,
so then we have So then we meet uh Katherine
in she says I'm vegan, but I love the beef,
and he again, like the fifties shades of Great, just

(01:10:05):
literally stared at her, just stared at her. I immediately
went to like, that means she likes the Wayne. But
I realized afterwards she likes beef R muscle guys. That's
what she meant. I thought she meant like getting bond,
like I heard, I love the beef. I've just picture
for another unfortunate phraseology moment. Yes, she loved it. She

(01:10:27):
was like, You're gonna hear a lot of that, And
I'm like, from who who? Who's going to say that
a lot? But I but I realized she loves beefy guys,
not like the Queen. I thought she meant the Queen,
which I was like, that's a bold thing to say
to this Christian, Okay, And she didn't necessarily not mean
the ween. You're right, you're right, so that you know

(01:10:49):
she is so horny for him, like, which I loved, Like,
she is so horny for him, she's so adorable. Um,
and she's only digs all of it. She she's like, um,
she has her journey. She has a lipstick print on
like in something under her thigh that she gives to him,
and she's like, I'm so attracted to you. And then

(01:11:11):
they go to boggain Ing and then she tells him
that her dad's not going to be there. He was
battling depression and at fourteen he had a suicide attempt
in front of her sister and he was taken away.
But he's still a part of her life. But he
won't be there and it's hard to deal with. She
was so sweet just telling this. It was a very

(01:11:32):
matter of fact. I felt a terrible story, and she's
I just loved this young lady. Yeah, yes, watching it.
I was watching with some friends via zoom, and I
was just like any other contestant on this show in

(01:11:53):
my limited experience, would have used this story as such
a manipulation that would have been crying and look at me,
this is my Oscar moment. And the way she did it,
the way she told it as a point of strength
and a point of caring for him, meaning, I didn't

(01:12:15):
want you if we go to hometowns, I don't want
you to be confused about what's going on. She's thinking
about him, she's thinking about how this like it just
made her out to be even better. Like well, Lourie
was texting me last night. She was so strong, and
Laurie was texting me last night, was saying what was

(01:12:35):
so fun about her is that she was sort of
the dark horse she nobody she was. She was a
late bloomer in the pack that nobody really saw her coming.
There was a lot of strong early front runners and
she didn't really pop until later in the season, and
then all of a sudden she really started to shine.
And like watching her and now having watched so many seasons,

(01:12:56):
she really is just a darling contestant. And so she's
fun and she's playful and she's not there for Instagram
followers and and you can she's the whole package. She's fun,
but she's sexy. Yeah, I appreciate when she said, like,
I'm so attracted to you. It's like that is sexy, ladies,
that's sexy. Yes, I know there are guys you think

(01:13:16):
there are guys out there that like the chase. We
don't you want to know that you want to jump
our bones? Want? Okay, Rob, do you do you agree
with that what Jerry said? Yeah? Absolutely, don't want to
be confused about it, like just tell us like whoa, okay, yeah,
because that makes you so much more attractive and it's

(01:13:40):
just so then she had all these cute sisters and uh,
she says she hasn't been um this open and about
three and a half year she hasn't been yourself. And
then she's he says, I love your weirdness, and like
she doesn't seem that weird to me, but like I
love that she's but she's a real lady. I love

(01:14:01):
her little nose, her little nose piercing like she's actually
like for him. She's like, this is like a crazy choice.
It's probably for him. Um And and she said, I
wouldn't feel a boy like him would like a girl
like me. He's such a hunky, so beefy and hunky.
I just loved her. I just thought, I mean, this

(01:14:23):
is why this was a really good season, because he
picked the right person. They stayed together. I know it
really wasn't work and he respect and she says I
was made fun of a lot. I was chubby. That
the people would say, not in a mean way, but
that I eat too much. I've never been in a
bathing suit this much. And he says, you're smoking hot.
I'm the lucky one. I promise I love you. And

(01:14:45):
I have to say I like, I hope watching back
she sees all of her glory that she sees. I
hope that she now that she's happy, and like, I
hope she can look back and just see how brightly
she shot. I mean, she just really stood out. She's
so lovely judging by the interview. Now, I mean they

(01:15:08):
seem incredibly happy and they're so cute. Um. And then
but he is clearly the leader of the household. I
mean he he's the man, he's the leader. Um but
I actually would would actually made me like him even
though he has the weird leader of the house part.

(01:15:28):
He actually picked two spitfire ladies, which was he didn't
pick two passive. Finally, the two women that he picked
had strong these were not like passive. He picked the
lady in the bridal dress and Catherine like they're both
kind of spunky gals, which which makes me like like
him more. Um So, then Lindsay was the final. When

(01:15:50):
she comes out, she says, give a girl a kiss,
which he wouldn't do. And then she was in the
wedding draft dress. And then we find out her dad's
in general and that she's all about family when people
it's interesting, like I love my family and I've laughed
a lot with my family, but I would never say
I'm all about family, like I love my friends. Like

(01:16:11):
I don't know, it's interesting. Maybe I mean I laughed
a lot, had a very funny family, like I love
my family, but like you know, it's just an interesting
I don't know yeah. I love my siblings and my
mom and we laugh a lot. But I never I've
never said that like I'm all about family, Katie, do
you have anybody? No, Okay, Jerry. I I'm tight with

(01:16:33):
my I have a sister who's also unmarried with no kids,
and my parents and we're tight. But when I hear
the contestants talk about like I'm all about the family,
my interpretation of that is like I can't wait to start,
like get married and start to have children and be
a father. And that's where I it feels distant to me.

(01:16:56):
My disconnect is because I've never really had that. Man,
I can't wait to just be an old dad mowing
the law. Like I never want to be that. I mean,
I might want to be a dad one day, but
like the concept of dadishness and family quote unquote is
not like a thing. Well, and maybe it's because I've

(01:17:18):
got a type family and Rob is a dad. Here's Rob. Yeah,
I mean, I'm I'm a dad and I love it. Um.
But when they say it, you're a dad, you're two
kids to hang up on the sky. When they say
it on the show, it sounds religious. Yeah, you know
what I mean? And that's where that's disconnect for me,

(01:17:40):
Like I've never had that like family. Family. I mean,
I love, that's like a structure thing. I love my
brother and I had a great fucking mom and we
laughed so hard. But yeah, it's a different I think
it's a different like verb of it is a different. Okay,
So then um so then it's like, I want to

(01:18:02):
marry my best friend, Beauty Fades. Um is who you're
sitting next to. Um, I might get fat and lose
my hair. And she's like me too. And she was
very cute and they got a Glacier National Park. They're kissing.
It's playful and romantic, and he's like, she would be
such an incredible wife. And then they're in Thailand. He said,
all day, I kept thinking, could I marry this girl? Yes?

(01:18:25):
And um she was so cute and sweet, and I
felt like, I that had to be hard for her
to rewatch this. I don't care who you are. I
don't care. I know it'll turn up fine for her.
But he clearly, and he said I so she showed up.
Both of them had crazy final dresses, and I felt
like both of them were provided by the show because

(01:18:46):
they were the same kind of crazy dress. They were
both in crazy tight Mermaid, They're gross. They were like
Russian dress, yes, they were like they were like like,
LeMay Mermaid, Russian prom dress. Well that we're so bound
on the bottom that they had to like shuffle and
they make them walk a half a mile over that

(01:19:06):
half a mile and um, and he goes, I want
to give you my heart, but my heart is somewhere else.
I have to say goodbye to you, and he says,
I love you. I mean imagine watching this back as Catherine.
He goes, I love you, I know I love you.
I love you. I'm sorry, and she was so elegant,
and she was like, it's okay, it's okay. Please please

(01:19:27):
don't okay, to stop, it's okay. And then when she
says was it me, my heart just broke for her.
And then I love that she took her shoes off
and was like fuck yeah and walked off, and then
and then crying and that minivan going, please dangle everything
I've ever wanted in front of my face and then

(01:19:48):
take it away. I don't want to be this way.
I'm sad, in like a sick, twisted way. I'm happy
for them Um, I want to grow with somebody and
have a family. I don't want to be alone. And and
and then so it seems like she's she's got married,
she has a kid, like she was like, you know

(01:20:09):
her life, she had a crazy, fancy house. Um, he
seems a bit doofy, but I think that's what she needs.
She definitely is the you know, she's running that family
for sure. It felt like watching it back it was
hard because if you actually see that he did love
her like that. He and I do believe he picked

(01:20:31):
the right person. But that had to be hard watching back. Yeah,
I kept thinking about Katherine, like she wat I know,
I know all of them, Like that has to be hard.
And then Catherine gave a letter to Chris and she's
basically like, I'm so attracted to you. I can't wait.
We just can't wait to move to Dallas. She shows
up in another crazy, shining mermaid dress. They have three

(01:20:52):
adorable kids. And I'm curious, Jerry, you said earlier you
had a thought at the end. Let's hear it. What
your thoughts are you ready? Okay? When you first asked
me to do these, you know, you were like, look,
don't don't knock the show itself, you know what I mean,
Like that's such an easy, low hanging fruit, like it's

(01:21:13):
we know, this is goofy, We're having fun. Chris Harrison
said something in this retrospective from his Ramada Inn lobby.
He said, He's like, you know, one of the women
is going to be blindsided, and the way he said it,

(01:21:33):
he almost relished it. And then when it comes and
and maybe it's working against the show condensing it because
to me it highlighted the sadistic nature of this final
moment where you have even the way it's quote scripted,
Because now I've seen enough of these where you get

(01:21:55):
the woman thinks you're going to propose, and you say
all these nice things and she's like, this was better,
this is better, this is better than the other one
where in the past they make her say something to
him first and then he cuts her off. They do
that now or the woman has to go? Did they
did that in one public Claire spoke first? They do that? Now?

(01:22:17):
This is this that's worse when they make I think
it is worse. But but this whole thing is, Yeah,
I kind of think it's not cool, man, And maybe
I'm just being all woke or whatever, but forcing a
girl to get dressed up and leading her on when
Chris Harrison knows what's going to happen, the decision has

(01:22:38):
already been made, and you lead them out to this
beautiful moment and everything you're signaling to this woman is
you're going to get proposed to just to have him
break up with you. I think it's screwed up. I
really do. I don't. I like the show is fun
and it's funny, and it's all this stuff. I said

(01:23:00):
this last night. I was like, this is really highlighting
how messed up this is. And all my friends were like,
she knows what she's signing up for and these are women,
by the way, and I was like, really, I'm the
one that's like, I'm the sensitive guy here. I'm so
I don't know. I don't know, like and subscribe promising.

(01:23:21):
I don't know. I think I agree with I think
they need to rethink the end because to me, it's
a little manipulative and sadistic, a little too much. The show.
I think the guy who the guy who created it
is Heidi Flice's brother, who I think is kind of

(01:23:41):
a bad guy. Right, Anna, Mike Plaice. Uh yeah, I
mean he has like his wife accused him of, you know,
assaulting her while she was pregnant. Just a lot of
very yeah. Just you know, like the DNA of the show.
My like just but can't they change it? Like look,

(01:24:04):
every Rose ceremony leading up, it's like, okay, we get it.
There's this sort of weeding out process. But this final moment,
I know, I don't know everything about it is You're
going to win, and now I'm saying all these nice
things about you, and then we reverse it. We just
ripped the carpet out from under you. I'm going to

(01:24:26):
say something so cynical. Now, this is so cynical, and
I am not a cynical person, but I feel like
I agree with you, and I feel like now because
the game has changed so much, people know, I think
some people just actually want to be in the number
one or two because they will get all the Instagram

(01:24:46):
followers and then they will get to go to paradise
and then they will get to pick the person that
they actually want and they don't have to marry the lead.
I don't know, am I do? I mean? Is that?
What do you think? Rob? Yeah? Well, and usually you know,
runner up is the first in line to be the

(01:25:07):
next spachelor usually is the second runner up because they
don't like to be so it's usually the number three.
Like it's unlikable person and they wanted I would think
they would have you know what I mean. Yeah, they've
started doing it more. I think they like to think
that people take longer to like get over it, like so,
so I think Peter was unusual. Wait, you know Peter

(01:25:30):
was third. I think it's usually the third one because
they think if you were that the audiences they're so
worried that America can't wrap their head that they were
about to marry somebody else, that they'd be ready to
marry somebody. But they think the third person can marry, right,
What was gaded Peter with the gap in his tooth?
What was he? He was the one that left. He

(01:25:51):
would have been he would have been the winner, but
he would have he wouldn't propose. He wanted to be
her boyfriend. And uh god, he was cute. He was
so cute. Um. I think now, I think in the moment,
people's egos are bruised, but people are it's like there's more,
there's more rewards it's okay if you don't win, because

(01:26:12):
you get same and stuff. Now, that's why I said
maybe maybe I might sort of hype over sensitivity is
due to the fact that I haven't seen the Bachelorette.
I've never seen the Bachelorette. You're gonna love it for
the other songs. See guys go through this. Yeah, like
I've only seen girls get put through the ringer And

(01:26:33):
it's a little next week. Next week's season that they're
breaking down to me is the greatest season of the Bachelorette.
If you want to do it with us, Jerry, it is. Debbie.
Ryan hasn't seen it either. It is the greatest season
of the Bachelorette I have ever seen. Is the one
they're breaking down next and maybe one of my favorite

(01:26:55):
leads ever. She's to me, I think she's the most.
She got weep beer by the end, but she started.
She was so cute and so fun and funny and
perky and like, yeah, she was like edgy and like,
oh my god, she is darling. Like darling. She was

(01:27:18):
fun and hot and goofy and edgy and like basic, yeah,
not basic. She was from Canada. She was a dancer
from Canada with a nose ring and the nose peers.
Um so cute and nice and like silly. She was like,
goofy um. Anyway, Um, guys that watch that, watch that

(01:27:44):
come back next week. Come on, you can tell us.
I'm well. At least you only have to watch it
in one night. You don't have to watch all twenty episodes.
One wine filled whiskey lady, who do you zoom? Watch
it with Jerry Ah, my friend Blaze, Marcus Tahiti, Tatiana,

(01:28:08):
Jeff Stacy. God, I think that's it. You're amazing. Um
a lot about Blaze. Over the years, we have heard
a lot about Blaze. Will you guys help me pick
a tweet of the week? And I want to give
a shout out. These are all from the same person.
No one watched the show, but this one woman, Liz
Tunicle at Jessy Lizzie Reps was on fire last night

(01:28:31):
and so every single tweet is from at Jesse Lizzie
Reps and she's our all star m v P. Here
we Go. We love her. Um um okay, let's see
here we go, Liz, Here we Go. Tweet number one
from as Jesse Lizzie Reps I've had no botox, said,

(01:28:53):
no current Bachelor contestant ever, like Number two Chris Harrison
staying tactless and true to form by trying to peddle
his book during massive unemployment and civil unrest. Pilot Pilot

(01:29:15):
Pete's big announcement will be presented by Barb on his behalf.
Come on, Liz, she's on fire. Um okay, Liz told
Number four, I guess Peter and Kelly's relationship isn't official
until they come out. To Chris Harrison, I mean it's
been out for like three months on social media. Um okay,

(01:29:38):
here's one. Liz tun cold at Jessie Lizzie raps, This
episode and Sean Lowe season must be mine numbingly boring
if they forced us to watch a three minute kiss
in real time in a three hour eclipse show. Um.
And and finally at Jesse Lizzie raps. Ashley's kitchen looks

(01:30:02):
like a zoom background. How would I go for the
final two nominated? I'm gonna go for Ashley's kitchen looks
like a zoom background or this season and Shawn Lowe season.
I'm sorry, this episode and Shan Lowe's season must be
mind loving lely boring if they forced us to watch

(01:30:23):
a three minute kiss in real time in a three
hour clip show. Kiss or zoom background. I'm gonna go
for kiss because I don't want to be the deciding factor.
Jerry kiss or zoom background kiss, Robbie kiss Tanna. I'm
gonna go zoom background Katie. I like, all right, it's

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one four to one litz doom kill you win at
Jessie Lizzie raps uh. This episode in Sean Low season
must be mine. Let any boy and they first sward
a three minute kiss in real time in a three
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w y A t R You guys, We love your emails.
Here's some of the emails we've gotten recently, and you
can email us at Rose podcast at gmail dot com.
This is from Juliette Ashall, Hey Arden, this is the
um oh, this is uh, this about Patreon. This is
her subject is love is Blind? Behind the scenes, A
little catching up behind and catching up with the Love

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is Blind podcast apps, and I wanted to alert you
the Love is Blind t Instagram account. Um Highlight includes
Jessica tried to leave very early on after meeting Mark,
and producers either made her or talked to Interest daying
well that tracks g G and Damien usually decided not
to get married and had a drama free wedding day,
and then they were asked to do something dramatic for
the show Wow. And then it seems like production didn't

(01:31:56):
like Mark. That is interesting, Hannah, what do you think
of that? Um Man, I don't even know, like they
didn't Okay, I don't know. That's I have to look
into that further. Alright, this is from Stacy Noble. Claire
bachelorette ads aren't in friends of my husband and I

(01:32:16):
watched all the Bachelor franchise show US on Hulu since
we cut TV, so they don't get to see the commercials.
We've hyped up the Claire commercials so much and as
a result, I've spent more time than I care to
admit trying to find them online and I haven't. I'm
trying to see the sexiness they exude from your descriptions.
If any of you have a link to one of
these commercials. I'd be eternally grateful. Keep doing the Lord
to work, you guys rock do we We must have
a screen grab I think we used. If you go

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on Rose podcast dot com, one of the flyers we
used is the Claire photos. If you actually go to
our Rose podcast dot vodka, I'm so sorry, the stupidest
website ever. If you go to Rose podcast dot vaca,
one of our flyers with the Fedora on is we used,
so you can see it there you can find a

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screenshot of it. I think we posted it. And here's
one more. This is from Kyle h Dearest Arden. The
subject is you're saving me during quarantine, Dearest Arden, and
will accept this Rose family. I'm a proud Patreon member
and a new weighted blanket owner, bought based solely on
you talking about them. I've been sleeping Undermine every night.
Please accept my sincerious appreciation for bringing so much laughter

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during this time. I've been listening to previous episodes, many
that I've heard before, because they bring me much needed
relief during an otherwise challenging time. Um within the last year,
I had to put down my dog and I took
a break from my career to get a master's degree
in a new city by myself. Um. Once the pandemic hit,
I packed up and fled home almost overnight, so I

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didn't get stuck. Lots of changes in stress, but what
remained a consistent comfort throughout was listening to will accept
this rose art, and you're a constant ray of sunshine.
When you lose it in a fit of laughter, it
brings joy to my soul or as you would say,
jingles my chemicals. For weeks after I lost my dog,
all I did was listen to will accept this rose? Um. Well,
I'm just so grateful. I oh Anna is effortlessly cool,

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and as a person of color and ethnically ambiguous person myself,
I find her so encouraging just by being so comfortable
with herself. How sweet is this person? And my condolence
is for the lovely loss of miss j J. Marine.
Your openness about grief Island has meant a lot to
your fans, and the fact that you can touch so
many people through your work shows what a great mom
j J was. Come on, ladies, how great is Kyle?

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How sweet is that email? Thank you for the email, Kyle?
That is very nice. That's just so sweet. I just
I we loved it. We appreciate you reaching out. Dude.
Life is a journey and Anna has so many great
episodes up of her podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous. You should definitely
check it out. We've got some fun new reviews um

(01:34:48):
five stars from Beth t two another new recruit yep.
I found your podcast after listening to you a Nick
Vials pod. I listened to a number of Bachelor related recaps,
all for different perspectives, so many are good. Yours, however,
is super funny. Maybe because you're funny for a living.
It works and I'm on board. Well, thank you so much, Betty,

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Welcome to the madness. We're so happy that you're here.
And I never in my life did I imagine that
Nick Vale would be my hook up with people. And
I'm not gonna say I don't act like I don't
love it. How excited do you guys to see Nick
showing up and watching Katelyn's reaction to him next weekend?
It's exciting because of that singing scene where I was like,

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oh boy, I got about me too, and then I
thought I was like, oh, this one's a doozy I'm
so excited about this. It's such a doozy. Here's another one.
Five stars, Horny, Horny, Busy Busy by not Mary or Marie.
I've been a fan from the start. I love having
a group to share my bachelor friendom with since my

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friends just don't get it. This podcast is full of
relatable personal experiences combined with funny comment ri on episodes
of the Bachelor franchise. I've even listened to one Pablo
episodes without watching the actual show and still laughed along.
Always a part of my weekly content, and can't wait
for the new episodes. Happy, Happy, Busy Busy. That's exactly
the advice that I needed recently, and I've been reciting

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it to myself to keep me ground and thank you
for doing the Lord's work. Well, can I just say
I think Horny, Horny, Busy Busy should be the title
of my second book. What either that or the Perfect
Letter part to the artem Chris Harrison En franchise. Do
we need to buy that book and do a little
book club. I'm sure it's great. I might order one

(01:36:38):
and do some readings from it on the podcast. Okay.
Five stars from Jen dred So funny and fun love
your show. Did you know Katie Perry was fawning over
Trevor on idol? It was a thing see YouTube that
was Trevor from Listen to Your Heart. I did not
know that Katy Perry fond over Trevor and that's amazing.

(01:36:59):
Did her being like he's so hot? Oh? And I
love I'm good for Trevor. Uh. This is from Kimmy
Kim kim best podcast ever. Five stars. This podcast is hilarious.
I listen while I'm at work and everyone thinks I'm
crazy because it's literally dead quiet in the office except
for my random extreme laughters. It gets me through the day.
I love when you have everyone on. Thank you. This

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is the best. This is the best. This is the best.
Thank you so much, you guys, We love all of you.
I'll read one more. This is from Mandy is Dandy
five stars. Love Art and the team. I can't get
enough Bachelor and I'm so glad that I stumbled across
this podcast. Everyone cracks me up and I constantly find
myself laughing, either uncontrollably or in disbelief. I love art
And so much. I never thought to watch Insatiable until

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I listened to this podcast. I bidshed both seasons in
a week. I want a petition to get it back. Yes,
point of all this everything art and touches his gold
or roses or just hilarious and heartwarming. Thank you for
everything you all do. Wow, Mandy is Dandy. I wish
you were my agent. I I think that is the
nicest thing that any but he said to me, So
I really really appreciate it. We love you guys. Please

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like us on iTunes or Facebook, subscribe, all of it
really helps. Thank you so much to all of you. Jerry,
where can people find you at? Jerry Trainer on Instagram
and Twitter, Robbie b At, Rob Benedict on Twitter, and
row Benedict on Instagram. Um you, guys, you can preorder

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my book, little Miss Little Compton. All sorts of giveaways
are coming up. You can also if you're If you're like,
we also have our one Paplo episodes we're gonna drop
on Fridays and if you're like, I want more uh
Anna and I. As we mentioned at the beginning of
the episode, we are doing uh We are doing Real
Housewives of New York and Bachelorette New Zealand and both

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of them are really fun. Um and you can follow
me on Instagram at Arta Marine, m y R I
n Anna. I'm at Anna hosting on Twitter, Katie Money
Katie Underscore Money on Twitter and Instagram. UM and don't
forget to follow and sign the petition at Batch Diversity
and to tweet to ABC. We love you guys, Thank

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you for listening. Stay safe out there, be kind to
one another. We'll be back Friday and next bye bye.
Oh yeah, I'm going to get all up in your tonight.
Feel so good. I just got one of the push

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