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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Kiki, why were you thinking about bullies a TikTok? Okay?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, I saw a TikTok where a woman was talking
about her daughter dealing with a bully at school, and
it reminded me like the kind of crazy advice my
parents gave me to handle a bully like.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
It was not helpful at all.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
So it's like your kid comes home and it's like, oh,
I'm being bullied and my parents just like go kick
their butt, like what do you want me to do?
And so it just made me think of like did
everyone get that kind of like crazy advice from their
parents to deal with bullies? And then also, how did
you overcome your first bully?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Because like me and my first bully were cool?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now shee, because I've got I got a few questions
eight five, five three five, uh context the same number. One,
Do you know what became of your bully or bullies?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Two? Did any of them actually surpass you? Because like,
I don't know that anyone who bullied me actually did
any better than I did in life? Nope. In fact,
the things I got bullied for were being a kid
and being obsessed with radio. And here we are doing
this and I Actually, it's funny you bring this up
because last week there were I don't know if you.

(01:10):
If you my school was so small. I mean I
went to school with forty seven people. But there was
a kid who was like everybody's friend, meaning he was
friends with the cool kids and then friends with the
middle kids like me, and then friends with the not
quol kids. And somebody I know ran into him and
was like what happened to him? And he was like
and the girl was like, well, he's doing really well

(01:31):
on the radio. And this guy was like and I
always knew that he would, but he never said that
to me back then. And the kids that were bullying me,
like he was the middleman between the kids who were saying,
you'll never do anything with that. And it was just
funny to me that you bring this up and that
that was the comment last week, because I wonder then
what happened to them? Did any of them actually do
anything good? Or they bigger losers than you ever could

(01:53):
have imagined.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yep, everybody who bullied me are they're still there? Losers?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I like, what happened to your bullies?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We were cool, but like they're we're cool.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
My fast food when I go to the.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Drive through no shame like and it wasn't. It was
in like great like elementary school. So they were just
you know, bullies at that point. But I what the
best way in any kid that is being bullied right
now that can hear this, The best way to overcome
a bully is to stand up to them. They're really
not who they act like to like who they act
like they are. Because all my bullies, like at the

(02:25):
moment I stood up to them, it was not that
they were not keeping that same energy and from that
point on they are not doing the best in life.
And I do wish them whatever they deserve, but it
was like bullies are. I just want kids to know,
like you can overcome a bully, just stand up to them.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
That's funny though, because my parents used to give me
the advice to like and this is what your parents
are going to do because they're your parents. But it
used to be like ignore them or tell them that,
you know, just disagree with them or tell them that
they're just be like okay, you know, like because you're
not feeding them. By standing up to them those kind
of personalities, you're essentially you get to feed them and
then they get like more ammunition. And of course my

(03:02):
parents used to say like, well, you'll prevail someday, and
they happen to be right. But that's bs advice because
let's face it, if every parent tells every kid they're
gonna prevail, not everyone gets to prevail. Sorry, it sucks,
but it's life. So but that's I remember, that's what
my parents used to say, like, well, someday, you know,
someday that guy will be nothing and you'll be something.
Well that's what parents are supposed to say. What are
they supposed to say, like, no, there's a real good

(03:23):
chance he's right and you're a loser. No, no one's
gonna say that. But I don't know if I surpassed.
I don't know. Like there was one kid he was
a bully, and I saw him on Facebook the other day,
like for people you may know, and I think he's
a lawyer, like he's not doing poorly, but I just
I look at him and I just I cringe because
it's just like, you were such a jackass to everybody.
Ye and I wonder if you still are, And I

(03:45):
wonder what you would say to me if you saw me,
or if the person who bullied you. Kiki saw you
and realize that you did exactly what you said you
were going to do. Oh, you did exactly the thing
that you were bullied because you couldn't get it done.
You were going to be a well known personality, you
were going to be a fixed ure, you were gonna
be on the radio, you were gonna be in the media,
and you did it. So now what say something to me?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh, no, they they're gonna congratulate you when they see you.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Tickets good.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, they're gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But any of you guys ever been a bully Because
I went through.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
A faith bull I I was a jerk in grades,
in middle school and high school.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I mean I don't know, like in middle school for sure,
I was a jerk. Where do you think? Where did
that come from? I don't know. Were you actually cool
with thn everybody else? Or did you? Were you not?
And that was just the way you know I was.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
It was like I get, I don't know, it was
like you if you're one of the cool kids, you
picked on you it was you know, that's how it
is like you. I mean, that's it really is how
it is in school, Like the the I don't know,
like we just picked on certain kids, like just talk
smack to them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
We didn't like beat them up or anything.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I wasn't like beating kids up, but like we were
just we would poke fun on kids on the bus,
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I will say this, and this is probably gonna be
a popular and I know that it's gotten to a
level that it wasn't when we were kids because of
social media. And I mean it's like when we got
bullied when we were young. I think I can say
it's for almost everybody in the room. It happened at
school or whatever, at the mall on the weekend, but
it was like that was it. There was no texting
or you know, social media or getting on Snapchat or

(05:21):
Instagram and continually bashing you. I think that there's a
wide variety now of lifestyles that are and things that
are accepted that weren't when we were young. And maybe
that's good, maybe that's bad. But what I will say is,
I do think that we have to at some point
in our lives face people like that, Like we cannot
just hide from mean kids or mean people, because the
problem is whenever you decide Okay, now my kid can

(05:44):
go out in the real world. Then you're going to
face those people because they still exist as adults. There
are the same kind of people out there. So it's like,
I know that it can be so demoralizing, and that's
a problem, you know, when it really like starts to
interfere with people's mental health and their quality of life
and their feeling of self worth. But at the same time,
some of this has got to go on because you

(06:05):
got to learn how to deal with it. Yes, you
got to learn how to develop a thick skin, because
if you don't, it's not as though someday you just
reach an age where people don't do it anymore, because
people will try and do it to you your whole life.
Oh yes, And if you don't know how to deal
with it, or you don't you know, figure out a
strategy or use it to motivate you or something, then

(06:26):
it is going to take you out and there's no
way around it. Unfortunately. Hey Ashley, how you doing.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Hi, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
How are you good morning? So you had a middle
school bully? Yes, okay, so yeah, what's the story. What
happened me?

Speaker 5 (06:41):
She tortured me for years to the point, like my
mom even switched my school, but she still lived across
the street. And so one day finally just to bully you.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
That is that is real commitment, Ashley. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
So one day she came up to my house and
was starting to like pick on me again, and I
was outside with my dad and he was like, you
just have to take care of this right now. And
so while he's watering the lawn, me and this girl
just fought right in my driveway and my dad minded
his business watering the lawn like nothing's happening. Yeah, and

(07:24):
now she had like three kids by three different baby daddies,
and there's.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
A whole nut. Well, now, did you did you handle it? Like?
Was it done after that day?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yes, mostly because I don't think she wanted to fight again.
She actually went home and had her mom call the cops,
and they tried to arrest my dad for not like
stopping it, but nothing ended up happening. So after that
she left me alone.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
See well, well, Ashley, Well I'm glad and everything worked
out well for you. You're in life.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Oh yeah, I'm about to get married in a month,
and I'm a teacher and I'm living my best life really, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Good for you. Well, yes, and thank you for listening.
Have a great day.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Love you guys, love you. I love you too. To
handle him, I think my parents' rule was always just
don't be the first person to hit him. And I
never get like Jason, I never got in a real fight,
but it was it was always if they hit you first,
then go at it. I don't care, but don't be
the don't be the one who strikes first.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
I came home from school and my dad gave me
a bath and saw a huge mark on my butt,
and I told him that a kid had hit me
with a huge stick. Took me downstairs, put on Rocky,
taught me how to throw a punch, and the next
time that kid hit me.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I hit him and it's lucky.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
He literally put on the Roget game song, can't punching
meat over here?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
What?

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (08:49):
No, I punched that little preschooler so it didn't hit
me on the butt again.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Somebody asked, Rufio, did you ever go back and apologize
to anyone that you believed? No? I did not like
should let's do it on air? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
I don't know these kids anymore, like I'm not friends
with you know, like middle school was a wild time
for me, and then high school I just kind of
just fell into the crowd of friends and we were
just friends for a long time. But middle school, like
I don't know, we were like it was I don't know,
like all the kids were doing so I joined in,
and you know, do I feel bad, Yeah, because I
don't know what I don't know what these kids are
up to nowadays. But yeah, like we would just make

(09:21):
fun of kids and stuff like that. But yeah, and
then the high school it was just I was just
you know, it was a lot more people than middle school,
so you just kind of just find your own groove there.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
You said that we didn't have online bullying, but for
us girls, I don't know, if you had this skieky,
there was live journal, so girls would like write like
journal entries that were online about other girls, and also
away messages were also a way that people bullied other people.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah. I know that it's way more advanced now than
it was, and it could be difficult to escape and
it can be permanently damaging too. I get all that.
I get that it's different than it was when we
were young. I remember my parents used to try and
explain the psychology you have it to me too, like, well,
this kid's obviously masking insecurities, or maybe this kid has
a bad home life, or or this kid's actually jealous
of you for whatever reason. And it's like that never

(10:10):
worked at the time, and it doesn't even work as
a grown up. But sometimes if I take a second
to realize, like this person's being mean to me, and
if I can ground myself enough to like take a
step back and be like, now, why would they do that?
And then you do kind of begin to decode, like
this person who's giving me a hard time is actually
miserable themselves, or I'm accomplishing something they didn't or whatever.

(10:31):
But it doesn't go away, unfortunately, Like grown ups still
try and bully other grown ups. Oh yes, it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's very crazy, sad, but it's bullying is a big issue,
and I feel like a lot of homes and I
don't know how parents deal with that because I feel
like as a like I would go to a school
like I would go to a school about my nephews.
I feel so passionate about it, like if he's my nephew.
Came home, it was like, somebody's bullying me, Like I
would I want to fight a kid?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah at that point, same.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, And I'm like, you know, so we got to
figure out ways to deal with it.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
I know.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
But it's just like kids stand up to that bully
and bullies if you if you're bullying somebody, like your
lame just stop today, you can change.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'll look at this. This is how it works. Paulina,
not our Paulina. Another Paulina. How you doing?

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Hi? Hi? How are you guys? Or is it Paulina
Now she can't actually work, so she's calling in the
request lnemail to see it on the air. No, it's not.
So what happened to your bully?

Speaker 8 (11:26):
Well, I had a group of kids bullying me in
elementary school.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
You guys.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
They said I was ugly and because I was like
I'm like a maxuline female, they were like, oh, you
want to be a boy all the stuff, and then
now like I ended up being a model and having
my own business and they're all like they're all like,
gained a lot of weight and don't look at the.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Same and have like a bunch of kids.

Speaker 8 (11:50):
And I'm just like, oh, look at that. And then
now they all want to be friends with me on
Facebook and stuff, and I'm like, oh, you guys can
go ahead. You can be friends with me on Facebook
so you can see.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, Pauline, good for you. Have a good day
here as well. Yeah, Victor, how you doing, Victor? Good morning?
What happened to your bully?

Speaker 9 (12:13):
So with my bully, he used to pick on me
because I was overweight, and that was basically in middle school.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
By the time he got into high school, he ended.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
Up being just completely awkward, having no friends, you know,
and he used to basically bully me just to show
off in front of other people. But basically, yeah, by
the time he got to high school, he had no friends.
He was a complete loaner, and I was actually the opposite.
I ended up making the majority of my friends in
high school.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Good for you, man. Okay, here's my advice about being
a bully. Okay, this is how you got a bully.
Wait to bully until after puberty. Okay, Because here's the thing.
I had a major come up between seventh and eighth grade.
I grew like literally I grew six inches. My braces
came off, So between seventh and eighth grade that summer
I came back much taller, straight teeth that were whitened

(13:01):
in perfect and I was ready to go. And the
kids that were making fun of me, they didn't see
it coming. They didn't see it coming. So you gotta wait.
If you're gonna bully, at least wait till everyone has
gone through puberty so you can see where you stack
up to the other people. Because if you're making fun
of someone because they're not tall, because they got little boobs,
you gotta wait because they might get tall and they

(13:22):
might get big boobs and you might be the one
with the little boobs.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Try to I mean, the thing is, if I'm being honest,
like I wasn't the biggest person like highwaise oh later,
I'm on five to five, but the freshman year of
high schoolt sho up to being six foot so gee,
this is what.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm talking about. People go through an awkward stage. They
come out of it like they emerge from the cocoon
like a beautiful butterfly, and you never saw it coming,
and now you're the ugly one. You gotta wait. Thank you. Victor,
have a good day.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
Yeah, no one just wanted to say I love you guys,
and I'm on one of the thirteen.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I'm number five, just so you know. Okay, good we
got number five right there. Thank you, Victor, have a
good day. Don't bully anyone. I don't really mean that.
But if you're going to wait till they go through puberty,

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