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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Order of a fresh show it.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, the honorable kick a Leek is here, Judge
Kiki take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
All right, let's step into the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit, it says, please.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That was on your phone, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
No, no, no, okay, it's my actual.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Gavel, right like you used to hit the phone with
the gather. I've evolved, Okay, I needed my phone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's how would you watch TikTok with the gavel through it?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So all right, let's get into the court room. It says, hey,
Ki KEI, please don't judge me, girl, Okay, judged? All right, Sorry,
here we go. But I've been keeping a huge secret
from my daughter, and I need advice on if I
should tell her.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Right after my.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Husband and I got married, we tried for two years
to conceive and we're unsuccessful. However, while on a girl's
trip to Cabo, I had a one night stand with
the barton at my resort, and I found out a
few months later that I was pregnant. My husband and
I welcomed the baby girl. And I never told anyone.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
About my name tom Oh my god, Yeah, she says.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Although I always kept in touch with the bartender. Yeah,
fast forward to now. My entire world got turned upside
down when my husband confronted me about my secret. Somehow
he got into my email and read through years of
messages between me and my daughter's real father, the bartender.
My husband filed for divorce, and it's now threatening to
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tell our thirteen year old daughter about my secret. I
feel like it will ruin her. My husband is the
only father she's ever known. What do you think I
should do? Should I come clean to my daughter?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That ball headed lady?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Girl, you are wild? Let me just see him. Well,
I gotta work this one out with you. Keith. Well,
first of all, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, I mean, if she ever has heard the French
show Constitution, this is not cheating responsibly, no responsible? Yes,
because girl, if you go to Cobo, look, do your thing,
but you don't let your thing come back home to
the US. And now you have this, this whole secret,
because I'm gonna just keep it real. If it was me,
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I would have never spoken to that bartender again.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, he would he would never exist.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
As far as my husband knows, this is our baby,
and uh you know, this is our little girl, and
I don't need to keep in touch. That's where you
went completely You were already wrong, but you went completely
wrong by keeping in touch with this man because now
there's all this evidence. You're probably sitting the bartender photos
of your daughter. You know, he knows he has a daughter.
You know, like, what what was your what were you
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thinking about keeping in touch with him? And so now
your husband knows, and to be honest, you have no
choice but to tell your daughter. In my opinion, you
have no choice but to come clean and tell your
daughter because it's gonna come out eventually.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, yeah, this bartend.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Is gonna come home looking for his daughter or you know,
the husband is now fould for divorce, so he's gonna
spill it at some point to the daughter too.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, it doesn't sound like the bartender has much
interest in being a dad, because after thirteen years, you
would think if he wanted to see this kid or
intervene or something, he would have keep.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It in touch. Yeah, but she, the daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Has a right to know who her biological father is.
And I feel like he has a right if he
chooses to responsibly be involved in her life, which again
he doesn't seem to because, Okay, if I knew that
I had a kid with somebody else, I understand that
you're trying to preserve your life with your husband, but
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that's once in a lifetime maybe for me to have
a like, I want to be involved, So I would
almost I hate to say this, I think I would
force the person to come clean, you know, like why
do yeah, we messed up, but like, why do I
have to not have any part in my offspring's life
forever simply because you cheated on your husband?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So I feel like if this dude really wanted to
be involved, he'd figure out a way to do it.
So maybe he doesn't, which in that case, this is
where it gets tricky, Like you don't want to introduce
someone into your kid's life who doesn't want to be there,
but you also don't want to deprive her. I wouldn't
think of access to that person. On the flip side,
this guy raised her and was none the wiser to
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the fact that it's not his blood, not his DNA.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That poor man, like, you know, they were trying for
a baby. He probably thought like, this is his miracle baby, right,
and now to find out thirteen years later after you
raised this girl you know you think is your daughter.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But on the flip side, this was an adult decision
made by the woman, by the mother. So for the father,
it's an incredible burden. For the I guess that the dad,
the man who raised her, it's an incredible burden. But
it's going to affect the thirteen year old probably more
than it affects anybody. So do you just keep that secret?
(05:04):
And and do you just as the guy be like, man,
I got a raw deal here, but I did get
this wonderful daughter out of it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like I raised her. She's mine.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So we're just we you know what I mean, Because
because ultimately it's going to it could potentially affect the
bond that they have unnecessarily. So it's tough, you know,
because like the father is going it's going to hurt
potentially the relationship with the thirteen year old simply for
him to be able to air it out and kind
of get back at his now ex wife, you know
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what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So it's like, but it's not his secret to Keith.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, the responsibility shouldn't be on his on the
father that has raised her to keep this secret because
he didn't mess this up, he didn't create that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He was like, he's a victim in this as well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I agree, But I guess as I worked this out
in my head out loud, So it's not really my head.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's that loud on the show. Trust me, that's this
whole show is my inner monologue. It really is.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You should my head, you should imagine what really goes
on all day. I think ultimately they need to do
what's best for the kid. Yeah, and if what's best
for the kid, if this other dude's not pushing to
be involved, and if what's best for the kid is
for her to have the appearance that this is the
life that and again, as a person who was primarily
raised by a guy who wasn't my birth father, I
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feel incredibly fortunate for that. So it doesn't really matter
that they don't share DNA, right, But there does need
to come a point where they tell her, and I
don't know when that is because again, it could have
an impact on her health. She could go do a
twenty three and meters and find out on her own.
The flip side being do we displace the life of
a thirteen year old? Do we completely upset everything she
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knows because her mom made a poor decision a long
time ago. I don't know eight one, one, three five
You guys at the Jerry, I would love to know
what you think, called out, yes, Rufio, I.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Mean, I'm I'm with Kiki in this one. Like it's
it's not on the dad. But at the like this,
if they're are they married?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
They're married? Yeah, they were married.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
That mirror is going to be dissolved at some point
because I don't think as a husb been I wouldn't
want to stick around after being lied to.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Now and then.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
But that it's gonna come out like that relationship, I
don't know. It's tough because like you, as the dad,
you don't want to be like, hey, I'm not your dad.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's gonna ruin all that aspect.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
But if they're getting divorced, there's gonna be she's gonna
want to know the reason why.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They could just be it could be because they weren't
getting along or something. I just what's best for the
thirteen year old is basically what I think. And and yeah,
that's an incredible burden for him to have to carry
and her for that matter. But for him to know
this and have to pretend like he doesn't know it.
But but again, fundamentally, it changes nothing. It changes nothing
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about the relationship that he has with his daughter, nothing
at all. Because that guy's been there from zero. He
believed that she was his He believes or she believes that,
you know, he's.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Her father and that's her that's her dad.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And so I don't know, is it best for the
kid for the adults to bury this because it was
a dult decision that was made. And then maybe when
she's a little bit older and can sort of has
the maturity to be able to realize what we're saying,
which is that this man raised me, he's my dad.
It's okay. Yeah, I don't know if at thirteen you
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have the worldview to be able to say that to yourself. Yeah,
I mean, it could really blow up her life.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
But at the same time, this man could be so jaded,
he could he even he could even say I don't
want anything to do with her anymore. You know what
I'm saying, Like, that's not my daughter, Like you lied
to me this whole time. That's that's your problem.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Even think that she's abandoned, right.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I hate to say this, but that would be a
even though the dude is the victim here, that would
be a super jackass move on.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
He would, but to find find years worth of email
this she is still.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Talking about he and his wife. That has nothing to
do with the kid.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
That's the same. Like his mentality could be like hey,
like you screwed me over this whole time, Like that's
not my daughter.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I have no responsibility for that. How do you turn
off love though that you have for a child. You
don't love a child just because they're part of you.
That's obviously a big part. But you can love a child.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's not He never knew nothing would ever be different,
but he knows everything.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, so abandoned as a child, now everybody loses.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's what I mean. That's what I mean. I think
you gotta do what's best for the kid ultimately. Dana, Hi, Hi,
how are you doing?
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Good morning? What do you think key Key's Court? What
say you?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I think that she should definitely tell the daughter, But honestly,
after getting a DNA test first, because just because she
had the affair with the guy, it may have been
a one night maybe a two night thing, it doesn't
necessarily mean that he's still the father. I would still
get a DNA test with the ex husband because if
she finds out five years from now, oops, sorry you're yeah,
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but that.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Really is your dad.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They're trying to figure out why this girl can make
such an incredible blended drink.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
They really want to know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I mean, she can make a like nobody, how do
you know that at age thirteen? There's no way that
you could be that good? Exactly have a good day,
just like her dad doesn't even drink, And this is
this girl's out here just making Margarita's like the secret
family recipe, the bottle. Yeah, she lights stuff on.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
To everyone. How did you already know?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She got her portcount is perfect. It's like how it's
like you were born this way? Well, because I was,
I hate DoD Hi. Hey what say you? Good morning? Welcome?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Oh my goodness, good morning to you all.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
What I say is, this is a really sticky, nasty
wicket for this girl. And honestly, all secrets come out,
So it's going to come out one way or the other.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
But I think that it should not come out now
because it sounds like the dad, well the father that
she knows isn't A is in a state of anger
right now, and it would come out angry, and that's
not the way to take this news. I can't even
imagine hearing would be the recipient of this news. I
think they need to take some time and then come
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together and sit down with the girl and explain.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I agree, that's a Really that's a good observation,
because you're right, he's pissed right now and what he
really wants is revenge, hurt them, and it's going to
hurt the daughter as much or more. I mean, the
mom has lived with this for thirteen years, the mom
is known, the mom messed up a long time ago,
So it really is going to affect the daughter I
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think the most.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And I don't.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yes, and I don't think she's his focus.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
His soon to be ex wife is his focus.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
And that's why I say it's just going to be
angry coming out, and it's just going to be to
throw knives at the ex wife and in the middle
of the target and the daughter.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, what I feel like.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know again, I knew my birth father and he
was involved for a while and then he wasn't, And
I was raised by another guy from the age of
like nine until now, and at the time that I
was nine, ten, eleven, twelve, it was all very confusing,
and I didn't appreciate or understand what he was bringing
into my life.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Now, as a forty year old, I.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Look back and say, I can see so clearly all
the ways my life was positively affected by this guy's presence.
But so what I mean is I think this is
a message that might be better delivered when she's a
little bit older and can say, all right, you know
you were my dad, you did do the job you did.
You know you provided for me, you got me to
this point in my life, like and maybe that helps
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salvage the relationship between the two of them as opposed
to now. I mean, I don't know. Thirteen years old,
you can be very emotional. You might say, oh, I
want I want the other guy, I want the bartender guy.
Now I don't want you anymore, and you could there
there could be damaged done that affects her for the
rest of her life. Very impressionable age.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yes, yeah, she's a thirteen year old girl.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Trust me, girls at this age are starting to have
the other stuff going on for them. Then just to
be confusing and rough and hormonal and everything like that.
You don't need this stick of dynamite thrown into the middle.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Of all that for this poor girl. It does, it does.
We told she's out of college age or something like that.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Wait till then.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Bring break to gobble.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
The thing that I'm worried about is that we're asking
her father to now become a part of the lie
when she's wait and tell her when she's eighteen. She's like, oh,
so you reliant.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What's best for the kids.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
But yeah, that's I agree, Fred.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
The thing is take take both of them out of.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
There as far as yeah, I know, it's like perpetrating
the same thing, but the focus is the focus is the.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Daughter and the daughter's feelings. And imagine, Kiki, I love you,
by the way, I love all of you guys, but
I love your spirit.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
But you have to I mean, imagine being the recipient
of this news.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I can't even I can't even.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Imagine how my world would turn up, se down and
flip around and turn around again.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It's going to destroy everything she knows in her trust.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So you say, people, the people.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Nothing, Yes, yeah, thank you so much. John, have a
great day you too. Hold on, Oh my gosh, Brendan Brandan,
you've been through this.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Oh, yes, I've been through this.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
What happened man, about six or seven months unto my
daughter being born, I was known or let known that
the girls with.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Was with somebody else. Right of course she got pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Okay, so did you test the DNA?
Speaker 11 (14:27):
We did get a DNA test and it did come
out to be in mine. But throughout that full process,
I still love that girl, still wanted to be part
of her life.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
The whole time.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
Obviously, I was upset with the mom and that.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Was something that we had to work through on her own.
Speaker 11 (14:41):
But I think it's better just to the truth always
needed to come out fast and fast before even more
stuff gets invested into it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, Brandon, did you talk about I'm starting to rupt you,
but did you talk before you knew that that the
daughter was yours? Did you talk about how you were
going to handle it? Were you just going to continue
raising the kid or did the other guy or what
were you guys gonna do?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
So the other guy wasn't even brought into the situation, bro.
Speaker 11 (15:06):
From what I was understanding, But I mean I had
already spent.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
That seven six or seven months with the baby.
Speaker 11 (15:13):
I didn't want I didn't want nobody else to be
around that baby.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah but mm hmm, yeah, yeah, it makes sense. We'm
glad it worked out. I mean, are you I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Go ahead?
Speaker 7 (15:23):
No, no, you guys did you.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Did you reconcile with the baby's mom? Are you guys
still together?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean that it's still my child after DNA,
So everything's good. You know, you move past stuff. Wow,
didn't stay together, but you know that's something you got
to do as a man. You know, people go through stuff.
At that point, we weren't exactly together, so you can't
really be too upset.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Yeah, okay, but I was just more upset. I wasn't.
I didn't know about that until seven months into you know.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, can I ask how do I find out?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
She just all of a sudden had had uh had
hard to tell me all.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I respect her for that. I respect her for telling
you because people won't didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Exactly cheat on you. I guess it was a blurry area.
So yeah, good anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
In a way, she did, you know, cheat, But in
a way we weren't fully together. I was I was
in a different I was about an hour away at
work doing I was away week doing.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
UH for work. So speaking, we moved past it.
Speaker 11 (16:31):
But my biggest thing is I think show always see
up front, especially a.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Situation where there's a lot of stuff that could be
invested with this.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, Hey Brendan, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Have a good dame, Glad it worked out good.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I have a good one. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Hey Teresa, good morning, good morning. Though hey love you
to just to recapping Kiki's court here, so make sure
I get this right. Kiki Uh, a woman and her
husband had a baby thirteen years ago. Woman realizes that
it was a bartend in Mexico's baby, tells her husband,
who'd raised this girl along with her. He's divorcing the
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woman now, and they're trying to decide he wants to
tell the daughter that he's not actually her birth father.
And you know, we're sort of debating here what the
right thing to do is. What do you think?
Speaker 10 (17:17):
I think all three adults are nassy.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I think the husband.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
That's getting a divorce from the wife is massy because
he wants to tell the child, which could totally change
her life. I think the woman that cheated stayed in
touch with the bartender because she I think they did
a DNA task. I would assume, because they're like still
in touch with each other, and she must give off
the cheating type of feel because her husband went looking
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for stuff, found stuff, and kept reading. So to me,
all three of those adults are Matthew. The barksend are
also Massy because he should have obviously wants to be
a part of her.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, that's why are they looking for thirteen years and
he's made no effort to do anything. I mean, I
guess I don't want victor. I don't want to villainize
this man because I don't know him, but I would
think if he really wanted to have a role, he
would figure out a way.
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Yeah yeah, I mean maybe he has a life and kids.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I don't know, but it's like everyone in this situation
is math except for the daughter.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
So I think they just need to do what's best
for the child. I agree, maybe tell her when she's
a little bit older, when she has a better understanding.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Thirteen is like a super sensitive age.
Speaker 10 (18:24):
She's BA only goes through all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So yeah, yeah, thank you, Teresa. I'm glad you called
have a good day. There's so many layers here too.
I mean, like the girl's gonna wonder why didn't the
guy in Mexico want anything to do with me? So
she's gonna feel a band in some way? What does
my dad love me as much anymore? Do I love
him as much anymore? Because he's not really my dad
quote unquote, but he is he is her dad because
because that's who raised her, you know that she probably
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will have resentment towards her mother. I mean, there's so
many layers here to introduce to a young adult.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I understand, but I feel like the longer we let
this lie live, the bigger it can. If Like, I'm
seeing a lot of people on the text saying that
they were never told and then they took a twenty
three and meter to be funny or for fun, and
then they found out that their dad was not actually
their dad, And they're thirty five years old right now
having to unpack all of the years of lies from
all of your parents.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
So she could be like, yo, you got divorced when
I was thirteen, right, Like you've known me since.
Speaker 10 (19:20):
Then, Right, my own situation is going to be like
one hundred percent happy go look this though she did
not cheat responsibly, yes.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Fred Shiw constitution bad like she number one. Hold on
so this Lisa, Hi, good morning, welcome. This happened to
you almost exactly like this.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yes, yes, it's crazy. So long story shorts. When I
was thirteen years old, we were having Thanksgiving at my house.
I'm I'm going to be fifty six now, so this
was a long time ago, and this girl who I
thought was my cousin decides to tell me you're not
my cousin, you're my sister. And I was like what,
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I go, what are you talking about?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, she goes, you're my sister. So we went into
the living room where everybody was that where all the
adults were at boy, and she tells her mom, who
I thought was my aunt. Yes what tell her Mommy?
Tell her that she's your daughter. And everybody got silent,
including my mom and dad, who I thought were my
mom and dad. And that, to me, that was confirmation.
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And I went to my room. I flipped out. I
destroyed everything that my parents gave me. So, I know,
you know, it's a long story, and I don't want
to get into more details, but I think thirteen years
was a very young age to find this out. My
parents eventually told me after I calmed down, you know, later,
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that they were going to tell me when I was older.
But you know, because I was involved in sports and
dance and everything, they wanted me to stay focused on
my life and not you know, be an emotional wreck,
which I was. So you know, I did it, but
we get over it, and I love my parents dearly
who raised me. Never talk to my biological I'm about
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it again, and that just created a hate relationship with
my biological sister. To this day. I don't talk to her.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh wow, I don't mean to pry too much. I
know there were details you didn't want to share, But
did your dad cheap with your mom's sister?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is that what happened?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
No, No, it was that's I'm saying. It's a completely opposite.
You know, it's not a story, but it was more
focus of the girl being thirteen, and I think I
was too young to find out. But no, my mom,
just my biological mom, took off to Mexico because she
didn't want to deal with me because she already had
my sister who was a year old, and you know,
just left me with her sister.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
How could they tell that that girl like your cousin
or you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh no, well I guess I guess my biological sister
knew at the time, but her our biological brother told
her you better not ever say anything to her.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's what I'm saying. Telling her is telling a little girl.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, wow, wow, Hey, Lisa, thank you for sharing that.
I'm glad. It sounds like you were able to work
it out and you have a good relationship with your parents,
you know, in spite of all this.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So but thank you for calling myself of daughters.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I think thirteen years is to you, especially in today's
society with a lot of these kids already dealing, you know,
going through CLOVID and just you know, the generation. It
is so different today. I really think the little girl
would struggle, and the dad is, like you said, he's angry,
But I don't think he should tell her because he's
(22:35):
going to tell her because he's angry.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
At the very least, he needs to be a parent.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, wait until she's a little older.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
He needs to work through it with therapy or with
the wife or whatever he need. He needs to get
to a place where he's not so angry. Yeah, at
the very minimum, but yeah at lista. Thank you so much.
Have a great day you guys as well.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I love you guys so much. You need my morning
so much better when I'm into my hour commute to work.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh God, bless you. You know, I'm sorry for the hour commute.
But if it's ninety minutes, that's also okay. Yeah, you know,
likes Honestly, if you want to go the long way,
it's all, it's cool. We don't mind. By Lisa Bye.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Guys, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, because that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
If he doesn't handle this right, he The sad part
is if the if the guy who raised this girl
doesn't handle it right, he loses his wife, his daughter.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And he didn't even
do it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, and he can't go to Cabbo. I'll be honest, man,
I mean, Saloom is saloon is very trendy. I hope
it wasn't Saloom.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
That would be more Fred Show Next
Order of a fresh show it.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, the honorable kick a Leek is here, Judge
Kiki take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
All right, let's step into the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit, it says, please.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That was on your phone, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
No, no, no, okay, it's my actual.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Gavel, right like you used to hit the phone with
the gather. I've evolved, Okay, I needed my phone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's how would you watch TikTok with the gavel through it?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So all right, let's get into the court room. It says, hey,
Ki KEI, please don't judge me, girl, Okay, judged? All right, Sorry,
here we go. But I've been keeping a huge secret
from my daughter, and I need advice on if I
should tell her.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Right after my.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Husband and I got married, we tried for two years
to conceive and we're unsuccessful. However, while on a girl's
trip to Cabo, I had a one night stand with
the barton at my resort, and I found out a
few months later that I was pregnant. My husband and
I welcomed the baby girl. And I never told anyone.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
About my name tom Oh my god, Yeah, she says.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Although I always kept in touch with the bartender. Yeah,
fast forward to now. My entire world got turned upside
down when my husband confronted me about my secret. Somehow
he got into my email and read through years of
messages between me and my daughter's real father, the bartender.
My husband filed for divorce, and it's now threatening to
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tell our thirteen year old daughter about my secret. I
feel like it will ruin her. My husband is the
only father she's ever known. What do you think I
should do? Should I come clean to my daughter?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That ball headed lady?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Girl, you are wild? Let me just see him. Well,
I gotta work this one out with you. Keith. Well,
first of all, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, I mean, if she ever has heard the French
show Constitution, this is not cheating responsibly, no responsible? Yes,
because girl, if you go to Cobo, look, do your thing,
but you don't let your thing come back home to
the US. And now you have this, this whole secret,
because I'm gonna just keep it real. If it was me,
(02:27):
I would have never spoken to that bartender again.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, he would he would never exist.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
As far as my husband knows, this is our baby,
and uh you know, this is our little girl, and
I don't need to keep in touch. That's where you
went completely You were already wrong, but you went completely
wrong by keeping in touch with this man because now
there's all this evidence. You're probably sitting the bartender photos
of your daughter. You know, he knows he has a daughter.
You know, like, what what was your what were you
(02:52):
thinking about keeping in touch with him? And so now
your husband knows, and to be honest, you have no
choice but to tell your daughter. In my opinion, you
have no choice but to come clean and tell your
daughter because it's gonna come out eventually.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, yeah, this bartend.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Is gonna come home looking for his daughter or you know,
the husband is now fould for divorce, so he's gonna
spill it at some point to the daughter too.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, it doesn't sound like the bartender has much
interest in being a dad, because after thirteen years, you
would think if he wanted to see this kid or
intervene or something, he would have keep.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It in touch. Yeah, but she, the daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Has a right to know who her biological father is.
And I feel like he has a right if he
chooses to responsibly be involved in her life, which again
he doesn't seem to because, Okay, if I knew that
I had a kid with somebody else, I understand that
you're trying to preserve your life with your husband, but
(03:45):
that's once in a lifetime maybe for me to have
a like, I want to be involved, So I would
almost I hate to say this, I think I would
force the person to come clean, you know, like why
do yeah, we messed up, but like, why do I
have to not have any part in my offspring's life
forever simply because you cheated on your husband?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So I feel like if this dude really wanted to
be involved, he'd figure out a way to do it.
So maybe he doesn't, which in that case, this is
where it gets tricky, Like you don't want to introduce
someone into your kid's life who doesn't want to be there,
but you also don't want to deprive her. I wouldn't
think of access to that person. On the flip side,
this guy raised her and was none the wiser to
(04:29):
the fact that it's not his blood, not his DNA.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That poor man, like, you know, they were trying for
a baby. He probably thought like, this is his miracle baby, right,
and now to find out thirteen years later after you
raised this girl you know you think is your daughter.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But on the flip side, this was an adult decision
made by the woman, by the mother. So for the father,
it's an incredible burden. For the I guess that the dad,
the man who raised her, it's an incredible burden. But
it's going to affect the thirteen year old probably more
than it affects anybody. So do you just keep that secret?
(05:04):
And and do you just as the guy be like, man,
I got a raw deal here, but I did get
this wonderful daughter out of it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like I raised her. She's mine.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So we're just we you know what I mean, Because
because ultimately it's going to it could potentially affect the
bond that they have unnecessarily. So it's tough, you know,
because like the father is going it's going to hurt
potentially the relationship with the thirteen year old simply for
him to be able to air it out and kind
of get back at his now ex wife, you know
(05:33):
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So it's like, but it's not his secret to Keith.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, the responsibility shouldn't be on his on the
father that has raised her to keep this secret because
he didn't mess this up, he didn't create that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He was like, he's a victim in this as well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I agree, But I guess as I worked this out
in my head out loud, So it's not really my head.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's that loud on the show. Trust me, that's this
whole show is my inner monologue. It really is.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You should my head, you should imagine what really goes
on all day. I think ultimately they need to do
what's best for the kid. Yeah, and if what's best
for the kid, if this other dude's not pushing to
be involved, and if what's best for the kid is
for her to have the appearance that this is the
life that and again, as a person who was primarily
raised by a guy who wasn't my birth father, I
(06:17):
feel incredibly fortunate for that. So it doesn't really matter
that they don't share DNA, right, But there does need
to come a point where they tell her, and I
don't know when that is because again, it could have
an impact on her health. She could go do a
twenty three and meters and find out on her own.
The flip side being do we displace the life of
a thirteen year old? Do we completely upset everything she
(06:39):
knows because her mom made a poor decision a long
time ago. I don't know eight one, one, three five
You guys at the Jerry, I would love to know
what you think, called out, yes, Rufio, I.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Mean, I'm I'm with Kiki in this one. Like it's
it's not on the dad. But at the like this,
if they're are they married?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
They're married? Yeah, they were married.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
That mirror is going to be dissolved at some point
because I don't think as a husb been I wouldn't
want to stick around after being lied to.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Now and then.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
But that it's gonna come out like that relationship, I
don't know. It's tough because like you, as the dad,
you don't want to be like, hey, I'm not your dad.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's gonna ruin all that aspect.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
But if they're getting divorced, there's gonna be she's gonna
want to know the reason why.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They could just be it could be because they weren't
getting along or something. I just what's best for the
thirteen year old is basically what I think. And and yeah,
that's an incredible burden for him to have to carry
and her for that matter. But for him to know
this and have to pretend like he doesn't know it.
But but again, fundamentally, it changes nothing. It changes nothing
(07:42):
about the relationship that he has with his daughter, nothing
at all. Because that guy's been there from zero. He
believed that she was his He believes or she believes that,
you know, he's.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Her father and that's her that's her dad.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And so I don't know, is it best for the
kid for the adults to bury this because it was
a dult decision that was made. And then maybe when
she's a little bit older and can sort of has
the maturity to be able to realize what we're saying,
which is that this man raised me, he's my dad.
It's okay. Yeah, I don't know if at thirteen you
(08:16):
have the worldview to be able to say that to yourself. Yeah,
I mean, it could really blow up her life.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
But at the same time, this man could be so jaded,
he could he even he could even say I don't
want anything to do with her anymore. You know what
I'm saying, Like, that's not my daughter, Like you lied
to me this whole time. That's that's your problem.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Even think that she's abandoned, right.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I hate to say this, but that would be a
even though the dude is the victim here, that would
be a super jackass move on.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
He would, but to find find years worth of email
this she is still.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Talking about he and his wife. That has nothing to
do with the kid.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
That's the same. Like his mentality could be like hey,
like you screwed me over this whole time, Like that's
not my daughter.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I have no responsibility for that. How do you turn
off love though that you have for a child. You
don't love a child just because they're part of you.
That's obviously a big part. But you can love a child.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's not He never knew nothing would ever be different,
but he knows everything.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, so abandoned as a child, now everybody loses.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's what I mean. That's what I mean. I think
you gotta do what's best for the kid ultimately. Dana, Hi, Hi,
how are you doing?
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Good morning? What do you think key Key's Court? What
say you?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I think that she should definitely tell the daughter, But honestly,
after getting a DNA test first, because just because she
had the affair with the guy, it may have been
a one night maybe a two night thing, it doesn't
necessarily mean that he's still the father. I would still
get a DNA test with the ex husband because if
she finds out five years from now, oops, sorry you're yeah,
(09:46):
but that.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Really is your dad.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They're trying to figure out why this girl can make
such an incredible blended drink.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
They really want to know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I mean, she can make a like nobody, how do
you know that at age thirteen? There's no way that
you could be that good? Exactly have a good day,
just like her dad doesn't even drink, And this is
this girl's out here just making Margarita's like the secret
family recipe, the bottle. Yeah, she lights stuff on.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
To everyone. How did you already know?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She got her portcount is perfect. It's like how it's
like you were born this way? Well, because I was,
I hate DoD Hi. Hey what say you? Good morning? Welcome?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Oh my goodness, good morning to you all.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
What I say is, this is a really sticky, nasty
wicket for this girl. And honestly, all secrets come out,
So it's going to come out one way or the other.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
But I think that it should not come out now
because it sounds like the dad, well the father that
she knows isn't A is in a state of anger
right now, and it would come out angry, and that's
not the way to take this news. I can't even
imagine hearing would be the recipient of this news. I
think they need to take some time and then come
(11:05):
together and sit down with the girl and explain.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I agree, that's a Really that's a good observation,
because you're right, he's pissed right now and what he
really wants is revenge, hurt them, and it's going to
hurt the daughter as much or more. I mean, the
mom has lived with this for thirteen years, the mom
is known, the mom messed up a long time ago,
So it really is going to affect the daughter I
(11:28):
think the most.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And I don't.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yes, and I don't think she's his focus.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
His soon to be ex wife is his focus.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
And that's why I say it's just going to be
angry coming out, and it's just going to be to
throw knives at the ex wife and in the middle
of the target and the daughter.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, what I feel like.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know again, I knew my birth father and he
was involved for a while and then he wasn't, And
I was raised by another guy from the age of
like nine until now, and at the time that I
was nine, ten, eleven, twelve, it was all very confusing,
and I didn't appreciate or understand what he was bringing
into my life.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Now, as a forty year old, I.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Look back and say, I can see so clearly all
the ways my life was positively affected by this guy's presence.
But so what I mean is I think this is
a message that might be better delivered when she's a
little bit older and can say, all right, you know
you were my dad, you did do the job you did.
You know you provided for me, you got me to
this point in my life, like and maybe that helps
(12:28):
salvage the relationship between the two of them as opposed
to now. I mean, I don't know. Thirteen years old,
you can be very emotional. You might say, oh, I
want I want the other guy, I want the bartender guy.
Now I don't want you anymore, and you could there
there could be damaged done that affects her for the
rest of her life. Very impressionable age.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yes, yeah, she's a thirteen year old girl.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Trust me, girls at this age are starting to have
the other stuff going on for them. Then just to
be confusing and rough and hormonal and everything like that.
You don't need this stick of dynamite thrown into the middle.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Of all that for this poor girl. It does, it does.
We told she's out of college age or something like that.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Wait till then.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Bring break to gobble.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
The thing that I'm worried about is that we're asking
her father to now become a part of the lie
when she's wait and tell her when she's eighteen. She's like, oh,
so you reliant.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What's best for the kids.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
But yeah, that's I agree, Fred.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
The thing is take take both of them out of.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
There as far as yeah, I know, it's like perpetrating
the same thing, but the focus is the focus is the.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Daughter and the daughter's feelings. And imagine, Kiki, I love you,
by the way, I love all of you guys, but
I love your spirit.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
But you have to I mean, imagine being the recipient
of this news.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I can't even I can't even.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Imagine how my world would turn up, se down and
flip around and turn around again.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It's going to destroy everything she knows in her trust.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So you say, people, the people.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Nothing, Yes, yeah, thank you so much. John, have a
great day you too. Hold on, Oh my gosh, Brendan Brandan,
you've been through this.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Oh, yes, I've been through this.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
What happened man, about six or seven months unto my
daughter being born, I was known or let known that
the girls with.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Was with somebody else. Right of course she got pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Okay, so did you test the DNA?
Speaker 11 (14:27):
We did get a DNA test and it did come
out to be in mine. But throughout that full process,
I still love that girl, still wanted to be part
of her life.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
The whole time.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
Obviously, I was upset with the mom and that.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Was something that we had to work through on her own.
Speaker 11 (14:41):
But I think it's better just to the truth always
needed to come out fast and fast before even more
stuff gets invested into it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, Brandon, did you talk about I'm starting to rupt you,
but did you talk before you knew that that the
daughter was yours? Did you talk about how you were
going to handle it? Were you just going to continue
raising the kid or did the other guy or what
were you guys gonna do?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
So the other guy wasn't even brought into the situation, bro.
Speaker 11 (15:06):
From what I was understanding, But I mean I had
already spent.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
That seven six or seven months with the baby.
Speaker 11 (15:13):
I didn't want I didn't want nobody else to be
around that baby.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah but mm hmm, yeah, yeah, it makes sense. We'm
glad it worked out. I mean, are you I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Go ahead?
Speaker 7 (15:23):
No, no, you guys did you.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Did you reconcile with the baby's mom? Are you guys
still together?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean that it's still my child after DNA,
So everything's good. You know, you move past stuff. Wow,
didn't stay together, but you know that's something you got
to do as a man. You know, people go through stuff.
At that point, we weren't exactly together, so you can't
really be too upset.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Yeah, okay, but I was just more upset. I wasn't.
I didn't know about that until seven months into you know.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, can I ask how do I find out?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
She just all of a sudden had had uh had
hard to tell me all.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I respect her for that. I respect her for telling
you because people won't didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Exactly cheat on you. I guess it was a blurry area.
So yeah, good anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
In a way, she did, you know, cheat, But in
a way we weren't fully together. I was I was
in a different I was about an hour away at
work doing I was away week doing.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
UH for work. So speaking, we moved past it.
Speaker 11 (16:31):
But my biggest thing is I think show always see
up front, especially a.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Situation where there's a lot of stuff that could be
invested with this.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, Hey Brendan, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Have a good dame, Glad it worked out good.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I have a good one. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Hey Teresa, good morning, good morning. Though hey love you
to just to recapping Kiki's court here, so make sure
I get this right. Kiki Uh, a woman and her
husband had a baby thirteen years ago. Woman realizes that
it was a bartend in Mexico's baby, tells her husband,
who'd raised this girl along with her. He's divorcing the
(17:06):
woman now, and they're trying to decide he wants to
tell the daughter that he's not actually her birth father.
And you know, we're sort of debating here what the
right thing to do is. What do you think?
Speaker 10 (17:17):
I think all three adults are nassy.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I think the husband.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
That's getting a divorce from the wife is massy because
he wants to tell the child, which could totally change
her life. I think the woman that cheated stayed in
touch with the bartender because she I think they did
a DNA task. I would assume, because they're like still
in touch with each other, and she must give off
the cheating type of feel because her husband went looking
(17:46):
for stuff, found stuff, and kept reading. So to me,
all three of those adults are Matthew. The barksend are
also Massy because he should have obviously wants to be
a part of her.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, that's why are they looking for thirteen years and
he's made no effort to do anything. I mean, I
guess I don't want victor. I don't want to villainize
this man because I don't know him, but I would
think if he really wanted to have a role, he
would figure out a way.
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Yeah yeah, I mean maybe he has a life and kids.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I don't know, but it's like everyone in this situation
is math except for the daughter.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
So I think they just need to do what's best
for the child. I agree, maybe tell her when she's
a little bit older, when she has a better understanding.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Thirteen is like a super sensitive age.
Speaker 10 (18:24):
She's BA only goes through all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So yeah, yeah, thank you, Teresa. I'm glad you called
have a good day. There's so many layers here too.
I mean, like the girl's gonna wonder why didn't the
guy in Mexico want anything to do with me? So
she's gonna feel a band in some way? What does
my dad love me as much anymore? Do I love
him as much anymore? Because he's not really my dad
quote unquote, but he is he is her dad because
because that's who raised her, you know that she probably
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will have resentment towards her mother. I mean, there's so
many layers here to introduce to a young adult.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I understand, but I feel like the longer we let
this lie live, the bigger it can. If Like, I'm
seeing a lot of people on the text saying that
they were never told and then they took a twenty
three and meter to be funny or for fun, and
then they found out that their dad was not actually
their dad, And they're thirty five years old right now
having to unpack all of the years of lies from
all of your parents.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
So she could be like, yo, you got divorced when
I was thirteen, right, Like you've known me since.
Speaker 10 (19:20):
Then, Right, my own situation is going to be like
one hundred percent happy go look this though she did
not cheat responsibly, yes.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Fred Shiw constitution bad like she number one. Hold on
so this Lisa, Hi, good morning, welcome. This happened to
you almost exactly like this.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yes, yes, it's crazy. So long story shorts. When I
was thirteen years old, we were having Thanksgiving at my house.
I'm I'm going to be fifty six now, so this
was a long time ago, and this girl who I
thought was my cousin decides to tell me you're not
my cousin, you're my sister. And I was like what,
(19:57):
I go, what are you talking about?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, she goes, you're my sister. So we went into
the living room where everybody was that where all the
adults were at boy, and she tells her mom, who
I thought was my aunt. Yes what tell her Mommy?
Tell her that she's your daughter. And everybody got silent,
including my mom and dad, who I thought were my
mom and dad. And that, to me, that was confirmation.
(20:21):
And I went to my room. I flipped out. I
destroyed everything that my parents gave me. So, I know,
you know, it's a long story, and I don't want
to get into more details, but I think thirteen years
was a very young age to find this out. My
parents eventually told me after I calmed down, you know, later,
(20:42):
that they were going to tell me when I was older.
But you know, because I was involved in sports and
dance and everything, they wanted me to stay focused on
my life and not you know, be an emotional wreck,
which I was. So you know, I did it, but
we get over it, and I love my parents dearly
who raised me. Never talk to my biological I'm about
(21:04):
it again, and that just created a hate relationship with
my biological sister. To this day. I don't talk to her.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh wow, I don't mean to pry too much. I
know there were details you didn't want to share, But
did your dad cheap with your mom's sister?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is that what happened?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
No, No, it was that's I'm saying. It's a completely opposite.
You know, it's not a story, but it was more
focus of the girl being thirteen, and I think I
was too young to find out. But no, my mom,
just my biological mom, took off to Mexico because she
didn't want to deal with me because she already had
my sister who was a year old, and you know,
just left me with her sister.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
How could they tell that that girl like your cousin
or you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh no, well I guess I guess my biological sister
knew at the time, but her our biological brother told
her you better not ever say anything to her.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's what I'm saying. Telling her is telling a little girl.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, wow, wow, Hey, Lisa, thank you for sharing that.
I'm glad. It sounds like you were able to work
it out and you have a good relationship with your parents,
you know, in spite of all this.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So but thank you for calling myself of daughters.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I think thirteen years is to you, especially in today's
society with a lot of these kids already dealing, you know,
going through CLOVID and just you know, the generation. It
is so different today. I really think the little girl
would struggle, and the dad is, like you said, he's angry,
But I don't think he should tell her because he's
(22:35):
going to tell her because he's angry.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
At the very least, he needs to be a parent.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, wait until she's a little older.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
He needs to work through it with therapy or with
the wife or whatever he need. He needs to get
to a place where he's not so angry. Yeah, at
the very minimum, but yeah at lista. Thank you so much.
Have a great day you guys as well.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I love you guys so much. You need my morning
so much better when I'm into my hour commute to work.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh God, bless you. You know, I'm sorry for the hour commute.
But if it's ninety minutes, that's also okay. Yeah, you know,
likes Honestly, if you want to go the long way,
it's all, it's cool. We don't mind. By Lisa Bye.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Guys, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, because that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
If he doesn't handle this right, he The sad part
is if the if the guy who raised this girl
doesn't handle it right, he loses his wife, his daughter.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And he didn't even
do it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, and he can't go to Cabbo. I'll be honest, man,
I mean, Saloom is saloon is very trendy. I hope
it wasn't Saloom.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
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