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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The order with a fresh show. It's Kiki's courting rise.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The honorable Judge Kikik is here. Take it away, all right, let's.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Step into the courtroom, slam that gabble down. Now, let's
say he goes, Hey, ki Key, I had a baby
shower at a restaurant last weekend. I spent a lot
of money on the decorations, my party favors a photographer
and all the other details. And of course, my husband
and I covered the restaurant tab for our guests, which
wasn't cheap considering it was sixty people. However, I did
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not purchase the liquor package since I'm pregnant and I
can't drink. But my best friend and my brother in
law decided to order drinks in rounds of shots at
the bar behind my back, causing people to leave out
of the actual baby shower room and just party at
the bar. When it was time for the baby shower games,
everybody was too drunk and not interested to participate, making
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matters worse. Then they put all of their drinks on
my tab and I was left sitting in tears while
my husband paid the tab to just avoid the drama.
I'm still annoyed, and I feel like we should not
have had to pay for their drinks. I want to
be reimbursed, but my husband is telling me that I'm
just being dramatic.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Am I wrong for feeling this way?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Huh? Okay, well, I well, you know, as.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The judge in the room, and I think in this room,
I love a baby shower more than most.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I like a good baby shower, especially the ones out
of wedlock.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Those are always better.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
The food is better, Yes, it's just in the food.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Tastes broken up. Yes for some reason.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
No it is.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's because they don't really have a budget, they're not married.
Somebody grandma made the meatballs. It's always better. But anyway,
so I love a baby shower. However, sis asking people
to spend their Saturday playing baby shower games and you
won't give them a cocktail just because you're pregnant. I
think that's a little extreme. But I do think that
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your brother in law and your best friend are completely
wrong for he holding up their own little party at
the bar. Like, if you're gonna order drinks outside of
my party backage, you can at least order the drinks
to the room that the baby shower is in. You
don't take half my party to the bar, get them wasted,
and now they don't even want.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
To play my baby shower games.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Like if you come to a baby shower, be prepared
to play baby shower games at the very least.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So I feel like you're.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not wrong, but I do agree with your husband like
it already happened.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You guys pay the tab. Just let let it be.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Let it be sist. That's how I feel. But you
guys are the you'ry eight five five five. I have
a lot of questions I'm gonna have to ask Rufiel
con Connecticut over here. Oh what if Okay, if alcohol
is not being served at an event, then it is.
If it's just not being served, then it is not
my responsibility. Then it's just not that kind of event.
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So then if I want alcohol as a guest, that
I'm paying for my own alcohol. Now you could argue
whether or not they should have provided it, and I
would agree with you, yes they should have right. But
if it's a non alcohol serving event and then I
choose to walk outside and go start ordering drinks, then
I got to pay for those drinks because that wasn't
part of the deal.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
True.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, if it's an alcohol serving event and people are
walking around and ask you what you want to drink,
then you order what you want to drink. You're not
paying for that because you were invited to the party.
I assume it's being paid for, right. If it's an
open bars and if it's gonna be a cash bar,
then they have to tell you that. Then they got
to say hey, available, Yeah, but you gotta paid for it,
you know whatever. You got to tell me that, because
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if I go to a party and there's somebody walking
around taking drink orders, then I assume that that's just
part of the party.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
They left out of the party room, went to the bar,
opened up a tab at the bar, and the restaurant
just assumed like, okay, they're guests of the party, so
they put the tab on the mother and father to
you know what I'm saying. Okay, so you think the
venue is that fall for that part?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, you should have said hey this the bartender whomevership
be like hey this this isn't included.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, or like this is a part of or stuff
like that, right, like.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You've got to open a town or Now, now the
real question here is whether a baby shower should have
alcohol just because the person who's being showered can't drink,
And the answer is an undeniable yes.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
That is a big yes person who had one. Yes,
I had a baby shower. I couldn't drink, But that
doesn't mean you guys can't. And like you said, a Saturday,
coming through, hanging out with me, me and my big belly,
like playing these games, you have to provide alcohol.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I will always ride for that.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I was shocked.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Well, I mean, we had a baby shower. We provide alcohol.
It's it's part of the you have to get that package.
I mean you have to, right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I took a few drinks to go right way according to.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
You, know, like you're you're hosting a baby shower, like
it's they're giving you gifts for the baby. The least
you could do is provide drinks for them and food,
food and drinks right now.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Like let's say, Rufie, I'm at your baby shower and
you provided drinks, and like maybe I want to have
a drink or two later when I get home. Can
I just can I just order a couple of beers,
take them with me, just take them in my pocket,
the three.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
At a restaurant, Fred, this is not a house park.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But they're available. I mean they're right there, you know,
I mean you're do you want to do that? Then
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's if that's why you want to round behind my back.
Oh my god, I would get a clown.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Because nobody, though, who does that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Astaurant?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
I don't go, Hey, let me order three drinks to go, sir,
put a put a lid on it, and a straw.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm this. Have you ever ordered like a dessert or
an appetizer or a meal knowing that you weren't going
to finish it, knowing consciously when you ordered it, I'm
not going to finish it. I'm going to take it home? No,
I do not, Okay, like beside the point, but yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
No, you don't know if I'm gonna if I'm going
to order food to go, I'm gonna say, hey, I'm
ordering food to go.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I order a dessert.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
He oh yeah, that that looks good, and then don't
eat it, let me get just.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Take a bite and then knowing that you're not going
to finish it, so essentially you bought it to take
it home. Is that rude?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Though?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Like if We're at dinner and I know it's on
you and I eat and I'm like, an, I'm fool But.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What I like a dessert? I might like a little
cheesecake for later.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is I would argue that it is probably rude to
order something on someone else's tab that you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Intend to to ing at that event.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, because I'm paying for your company basically, like I'm
treating you to something, I'm not treating you to something
for later, you know what I mean. So like if
you order something knowing that you're going to take it now, granted,
I would say the exception would be, I know this
is outside the scope Pewkiki's court, But the exception would
be if you show up to the event, you're not
that hungry, everyone else orders, and then you order something
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and you're like, I'll just take the rest home, that's different.
But if you're ordering extra courses knowing in your mind
that you're not going to finish them simply so you
can take them all, I don't think that's right. Hey, Michelle, Okay,
now back to the matter at hand. Yes, Michelle, so
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who should have had to pay for the booze? This
is a baby shower a bunch of folks who ordered
alcohol in another room that was not included in the event.
So not only did they sort of distract from the event,
but they also went and bought a bunch of alcohol
that wasn't to be, you know, part of the party,
and then made the party planner or the host pay
for it.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
What do you think, Well, I work at a bar,
and I was saying that to me, etiquette should be
you should have an open bar. That's not personally my
you know opinion. However, as a bartender, it's their responsibility
too to say what's included with your package. If someone
has a party at my bar, I'll say, do you
do beer?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Wine?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Or are you doing did you you know, if you're
doing a tab you have to kind of ask, like
our shots included? What can we do? And then that's
I'm none to tell the guests. Sorry, just SODA's included,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, if I go I want to party, a cocktail
party or anything hosted by somebody else, So somebody's walking
around taking drink orders unless you say to me, hey,
it's a cash bar, like I need your credit card
or would you like me to open you a tab
or somehow this is not included. I'm assuming that the
host is paying for these drinks, right, because like nobody
told me. In differently, like if I go to a
wedding and somebody's bringing me drinks all night, and at
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the end of the night they hand me a tab,
I'm going to be a little surprised, yes, because you
don't tell me. And I'm not to say that I'm
not going to pay it, but like I think you
should say from the beginning, just to set expectations, Hey,
this is a dry event. Okay, good, so the bar,
yeah right, like you're on your own for the booze
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Which, yeah, that's my opinion.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
But I definitely think you should do an open bar
for an event like that. That's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Also, yeah, well I know if I'm making my friends
come out to like, you know, play the diaper, dandybody,
whatever it is, and you you deserve to get drunk
because I'm making you do this. Thank you, Michelle. I
have a good day, absolutely, you see.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I agree. Hey on Nelly, how are you doing, Nelly?
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So how do we handle this situation in Kiki's court?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, I think that she should have told her guests.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
You know, if you want to order anything in the bar,
that there's a minimum, like a twee drink cinemum or
it's a cash barn for your own.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So you're saying two drink maximum. You're saying like, yes,
I see, okay, Like hey look well we'll buy you
a couple. But then it's it. But that it wasn't
even that wasn't even an option because they didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Want anybody drinking.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
She wanted them to focus on her, the baby, watching
her open the gifts, playing the games. And he completely
hijacks our baby shower at a party at the bar.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah that's rude. Yes, that self is rude.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But as far as who's paying for the drinks, I
would agree that it's on the venue to say, hey,
this isnan't included in the event, just that you know,
and it probably wouldn't change anything. They probably just paid
for it themselves, because I do. I don't necessarily, I
don't think everyone's on the take. I think some people
probably just are used to I'm going to a venue
for an event, there's a bar. I assume that's part
of the deal unless you tell me it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I mean ordering shots.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Though, but for the venue just to give the tab
to the host. I'm like, that's without consulting them first.
Be like, hey, people are ordering drinks. What do you
want to do. They'd be like, you want to start
a tab for them? Or do you want them to
pay on their own? Just the hand them a bill
at the end of the the shower and be like, hey,
here's an additional thousand.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Dollars of the drinks they got. And I'd be like, yo,
I'm not paying for this. A big deal.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I would have never thought to blame the venue.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I mean neither to be honest, Yeah, I would have
never thought that because if I'm the bartender, I.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Would assume though, like if you're coming out of that
party and there's a group of you guys that I'd
be like, okay, I'm assuming like they're going to pay
for it.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
There's no package.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yeah, so maybe I'd be like, okay, I'm assuming they're
okay with their guests doing that.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
But you're right, I guess I would ask not I
didn't think of.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The manager or somebody be like, I don't think that
would have already been established, like, hey, I know the
bar is open, like to the staff, Hey, that's the
party room.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I know the bars here. This isn't included.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So if anybody comes out here, then you got to
make sure you charge them because it's not included or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But no, I guess didn't have it. Thank you for
the good day.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Does this happened as someone's grandmother's funeral? They chucks it
in that they rang up fifteen hundred dollars and.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Booze on top of the food at grandma funeral. Grandma's funeral. Yeah,
the guest charged it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Saki Hi is the sakis ahi sand Yes, Llori Fred?
How you doing man? What say you do you remember
on one of the thirteen?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But thank you.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I hosted a rehearsal dinner last month for my son.
I had eighty five people at the rehearsal dinner out
of counters, bridesmaids, bridegrooms, uh and I had it at
one of our favorite places of Leading Millennium Park and
we love Itham absolutely. So the thing that I did
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was the package deal in the bar. And you have
options if you want to pay per drink and so forth,
so I didn't want to take a chance. I did
the package deal. It was great. You know, our open bar,
three hours of open bar during dinner, so before and after,
so it was it was great. I didn't have to
worry about I didn't have to worry about extra pay
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for the lambs or anything. Yeah, just imagine what the
wedding was.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
He the father of the son. He's like, yeah, that's
what That's what my parents did too. They're like, oh,
you know, we'll pay for the dinner for this, we
can't pay for the wedding. Yeah, it's a pretty good deal. Exactly,
It's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
That's right. More relaxed. That was more relaxed when I
did it in that type of form, you know, with
the package and everything.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You're a very generous guy. I want to come to
any party that you think drinks on saki.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Have a good day.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Man, Thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think we all agree on this hold. I was like, Angie, hi, Angie,
how you doing? How are you so you're bringing up
the good Thanks for asking the perspective of somebody who
doesn't drink.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So what's the question.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
I would think that it's a problem from the start
to even have an event without alcohol, because since I
don't drink, does that mean I'm not gonna, you know,
serve alcohol at any.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Event that I do.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, true, because you got to cater with the masses.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I mean, unless I guess there's like an issue, like
I don't know. Maybe I guess it would depend on that,
but I don't know. You're right, Like, what if you're
recovering alcoholic? Do you not have alcohol at your event
for other people because you don't want to be around it.
I mean, I suppose that's your choice. But then again,
I would imagine your friends would know that it's a
sensitivity about you, and maybe it wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Be Probably that she's pregnant and she's not going to
be drinking anyway, so I think they should have had
alcohol to begin with.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, don't be the no fun police if you're pregnant.
I'm sorry that. I'm sorry that you can't drink anyat
sushi and lunch and go to Subway lunch, me to whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I'm sorry about that, Like I really am, man, But
but you shot it up and you got it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know you you you know what I'm saying, Like
you you guys made the call to have a kid,
and for nine months, that's just the way it's going
to be, and I'm sorry about that for you.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I am, but I did not make that choice.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, I am unable to be pregnated myself, and I
would like to have a drink at your baby shower
because I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 8 (14:07):
And I'm sure people are spending a lot of money
to begin with his gifts, so you can give.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Them, right, I agree, thank you, Thank you very much.
Of a good day.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Who are vegan and they've had like a dinner party
and it's only vegan options. It's like, I'm vegan, that's
what I want to eat, and you just got to
kind of roll with it. I mean, Rufio, you talked
about your wife's pregnant and you're not drinking really because
she can't drink right, right.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I'm not a huge drinker in the first place, but
I'll have like one drink, but I'm not getting hammerd right,
let me take six drinks home from the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Restaurant next time. About Rufio as a puppy, I'm taking
everything home. If it's not bolted to the table, I'm
taking it home because.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
First taking
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Is all with
The order with a fresh show. It's Kiki's courting rise.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The honorable Judge Kikik is here. Take it away, all right, let's.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Step into the courtroom, slam that gabble down. Now, let's
say he goes, Hey, ki Key, I had a baby
shower at a restaurant last weekend. I spent a lot
of money on the decorations, my party favors a photographer
and all the other details. And of course, my husband
and I covered the restaurant tab for our guests, which
wasn't cheap considering it was sixty people. However, I did
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not purchase the liquor package since I'm pregnant and I
can't drink. But my best friend and my brother in
law decided to order drinks in rounds of shots at
the bar behind my back, causing people to leave out
of the actual baby shower room and just party at
the bar. When it was time for the baby shower games,
everybody was too drunk and not interested to participate, making
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matters worse. Then they put all of their drinks on
my tab and I was left sitting in tears while
my husband paid the tab to just avoid the drama.
I'm still annoyed, and I feel like we should not
have had to pay for their drinks. I want to
be reimbursed, but my husband is telling me that I'm
just being dramatic.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Am I wrong for feeling this way?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Huh? Okay, well, I well, you know, as.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The judge in the room, and I think in this room,
I love a baby shower more than most.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I like a good baby shower, especially the ones out
of wedlock.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Those are always better.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
The food is better, Yes, it's just in the food.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Tastes broken up. Yes for some reason.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
No it is.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's because they don't really have a budget, they're not married.
Somebody grandma made the meatballs. It's always better. But anyway,
so I love a baby shower. However, sis asking people
to spend their Saturday playing baby shower games and you
won't give them a cocktail just because you're pregnant. I
think that's a little extreme. But I do think that
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your brother in law and your best friend are completely
wrong for he holding up their own little party at
the bar. Like, if you're gonna order drinks outside of
my party backage, you can at least order the drinks
to the room that the baby shower is in. You
don't take half my party to the bar, get them wasted,
and now they don't even want.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
To play my baby shower games.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Like if you come to a baby shower, be prepared
to play baby shower games at the very least.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So I feel like you're.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not wrong, but I do agree with your husband like
it already happened.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You guys pay the tab. Just let let it be.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Let it be sist. That's how I feel. But you
guys are the you'ry eight five five five. I have
a lot of questions I'm gonna have to ask Rufiel
con Connecticut over here. Oh what if Okay, if alcohol
is not being served at an event, then it is.
If it's just not being served, then it is not
my responsibility. Then it's just not that kind of event.
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So then if I want alcohol as a guest, that
I'm paying for my own alcohol. Now you could argue
whether or not they should have provided it, and I
would agree with you, yes they should have right. But
if it's a non alcohol serving event and then I
choose to walk outside and go start ordering drinks, then
I got to pay for those drinks because that wasn't
part of the deal.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
True.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, if it's an alcohol serving event and people are
walking around and ask you what you want to drink,
then you order what you want to drink. You're not
paying for that because you were invited to the party.
I assume it's being paid for, right. If it's an
open bars and if it's gonna be a cash bar,
then they have to tell you that. Then they got
to say hey, available, Yeah, but you gotta paid for it,
you know whatever. You got to tell me that, because
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if I go to a party and there's somebody walking
around taking drink orders, then I assume that that's just
part of the party.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
They left out of the party room, went to the bar,
opened up a tab at the bar, and the restaurant
just assumed like, okay, they're guests of the party, so
they put the tab on the mother and father to
you know what I'm saying. Okay, so you think the
venue is that fall for that part?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, you should have said hey this the bartender whomevership
be like hey this this isn't included.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, or like this is a part of or stuff
like that, right, like.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You've got to open a town or Now, now the
real question here is whether a baby shower should have
alcohol just because the person who's being showered can't drink,
And the answer is an undeniable yes.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
That is a big yes person who had one. Yes,
I had a baby shower. I couldn't drink, But that
doesn't mean you guys can't. And like you said, a Saturday,
coming through, hanging out with me, me and my big belly,
like playing these games, you have to provide alcohol.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I will always ride for that.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I was shocked.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Well, I mean, we had a baby shower. We provide alcohol.
It's it's part of the you have to get that package.
I mean you have to, right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I took a few drinks to go right way according to.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
You, know, like you're you're hosting a baby shower, like
it's they're giving you gifts for the baby. The least
you could do is provide drinks for them and food,
food and drinks right now.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Like let's say, Rufie, I'm at your baby shower and
you provided drinks, and like maybe I want to have
a drink or two later when I get home. Can
I just can I just order a couple of beers,
take them with me, just take them in my pocket,
the three.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
At a restaurant, Fred, this is not a house park.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But they're available. I mean they're right there, you know,
I mean you're do you want to do that? Then
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's if that's why you want to round behind my back.
Oh my god, I would get a clown.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Because nobody, though, who does that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Astaurant?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
I don't go, Hey, let me order three drinks to go, sir,
put a put a lid on it, and a straw.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm this. Have you ever ordered like a dessert or
an appetizer or a meal knowing that you weren't going
to finish it, knowing consciously when you ordered it, I'm
not going to finish it. I'm going to take it home? No,
I do not, Okay, like beside the point, but yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
No, you don't know if I'm gonna if I'm going
to order food to go, I'm gonna say, hey, I'm
ordering food to go.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I order a dessert.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
He oh yeah, that that looks good, and then don't
eat it, let me get just.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Take a bite and then knowing that you're not going
to finish it, so essentially you bought it to take
it home. Is that rude?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Though?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Like if We're at dinner and I know it's on
you and I eat and I'm like, an, I'm fool But.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What I like a dessert? I might like a little
cheesecake for later.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is I would argue that it is probably rude to
order something on someone else's tab that you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Intend to to ing at that event.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, because I'm paying for your company basically, like I'm
treating you to something, I'm not treating you to something
for later, you know what I mean. So like if
you order something knowing that you're going to take it now, granted,
I would say the exception would be, I know this
is outside the scope Pewkiki's court, But the exception would
be if you show up to the event, you're not
that hungry, everyone else orders, and then you order something
(06:48):
and you're like, I'll just take the rest home, that's different.
But if you're ordering extra courses knowing in your mind
that you're not going to finish them simply so you
can take them all, I don't think that's right. Hey, Michelle, Okay,
now back to the matter at hand. Yes, Michelle, so
(07:09):
who should have had to pay for the booze? This
is a baby shower a bunch of folks who ordered
alcohol in another room that was not included in the event.
So not only did they sort of distract from the event,
but they also went and bought a bunch of alcohol
that wasn't to be, you know, part of the party,
and then made the party planner or the host pay
for it.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
What do you think, Well, I work at a bar,
and I was saying that to me, etiquette should be
you should have an open bar. That's not personally my
you know opinion. However, as a bartender, it's their responsibility
too to say what's included with your package. If someone
has a party at my bar, I'll say, do you
do beer?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Wine?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Or are you doing did you you know, if you're
doing a tab you have to kind of ask, like
our shots included? What can we do? And then that's
I'm none to tell the guests. Sorry, just SODA's included,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, if I go I want to party, a cocktail
party or anything hosted by somebody else, So somebody's walking
around taking drink orders unless you say to me, hey,
it's a cash bar, like I need your credit card
or would you like me to open you a tab
or somehow this is not included. I'm assuming that the
host is paying for these drinks, right, because like nobody
told me. In differently, like if I go to a
wedding and somebody's bringing me drinks all night, and at
(08:20):
the end of the night they hand me a tab,
I'm going to be a little surprised, yes, because you
don't tell me. And I'm not to say that I'm
not going to pay it, but like I think you
should say from the beginning, just to set expectations, Hey,
this is a dry event. Okay, good, so the bar,
yeah right, like you're on your own for the booze
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Which, yeah, that's my opinion.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
But I definitely think you should do an open bar
for an event like that. That's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Also, yeah, well I know if I'm making my friends
come out to like, you know, play the diaper, dandybody,
whatever it is, and you you deserve to get drunk
because I'm making you do this. Thank you, Michelle. I
have a good day, absolutely, you see.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I agree. Hey on Nelly, how are you doing, Nelly?
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So how do we handle this situation in Kiki's court?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, I think that she should have told her guests.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
You know, if you want to order anything in the bar,
that there's a minimum, like a twee drink cinemum or
it's a cash barn for your own.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So you're saying two drink maximum. You're saying like, yes,
I see, okay, Like hey look well we'll buy you
a couple. But then it's it. But that it wasn't
even that wasn't even an option because they didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Want anybody drinking.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
She wanted them to focus on her, the baby, watching
her open the gifts, playing the games. And he completely
hijacks our baby shower at a party at the bar.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah that's rude. Yes, that self is rude.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But as far as who's paying for the drinks, I
would agree that it's on the venue to say, hey,
this isnan't included in the event, just that you know,
and it probably wouldn't change anything. They probably just paid
for it themselves, because I do. I don't necessarily, I
don't think everyone's on the take. I think some people
probably just are used to I'm going to a venue
for an event, there's a bar. I assume that's part
of the deal unless you tell me it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I mean ordering shots.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Though, but for the venue just to give the tab
to the host. I'm like, that's without consulting them first.
Be like, hey, people are ordering drinks. What do you
want to do. They'd be like, you want to start
a tab for them? Or do you want them to
pay on their own? Just the hand them a bill
at the end of the the shower and be like, hey,
here's an additional thousand.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Dollars of the drinks they got. And I'd be like, yo,
I'm not paying for this. A big deal.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I would have never thought to blame the venue.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I mean neither to be honest, Yeah, I would have
never thought that because if I'm the bartender, I.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Would assume though, like if you're coming out of that
party and there's a group of you guys that I'd
be like, okay, I'm assuming like they're going to pay
for it.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
There's no package.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yeah, so maybe I'd be like, okay, I'm assuming they're
okay with their guests doing that.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
But you're right, I guess I would ask not I
didn't think of.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The manager or somebody be like, I don't think that
would have already been established, like, hey, I know the
bar is open, like to the staff, Hey, that's the
party room.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I know the bars here. This isn't included.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So if anybody comes out here, then you got to
make sure you charge them because it's not included or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But no, I guess didn't have it. Thank you for
the good day.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Does this happened as someone's grandmother's funeral? They chucks it
in that they rang up fifteen hundred dollars and.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Booze on top of the food at grandma funeral. Grandma's funeral. Yeah,
the guest charged it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Saki Hi is the sakis ahi sand Yes, Llori Fred?
How you doing man? What say you do you remember
on one of the thirteen?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But thank you.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I hosted a rehearsal dinner last month for my son.
I had eighty five people at the rehearsal dinner out
of counters, bridesmaids, bridegrooms, uh and I had it at
one of our favorite places of Leading Millennium Park and
we love Itham absolutely. So the thing that I did
(11:49):
was the package deal in the bar. And you have
options if you want to pay per drink and so forth,
so I didn't want to take a chance. I did
the package deal. It was great. You know, our open bar,
three hours of open bar during dinner, so before and after,
so it was it was great. I didn't have to
worry about I didn't have to worry about extra pay
(12:11):
for the lambs or anything. Yeah, just imagine what the
wedding was.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
He the father of the son. He's like, yeah, that's
what That's what my parents did too. They're like, oh,
you know, we'll pay for the dinner for this, we
can't pay for the wedding. Yeah, it's a pretty good deal. Exactly,
It's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
That's right. More relaxed. That was more relaxed when I
did it in that type of form, you know, with
the package and everything.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You're a very generous guy. I want to come to
any party that you think drinks on saki.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Have a good day.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Man, Thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think we all agree on this hold. I was like, Angie, hi, Angie,
how you doing? How are you so you're bringing up
the good Thanks for asking the perspective of somebody who
doesn't drink.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So what's the question.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
I would think that it's a problem from the start
to even have an event without alcohol, because since I
don't drink, does that mean I'm not gonna, you know,
serve alcohol at any.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Event that I do.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, true, because you got to cater with the masses.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I mean, unless I guess there's like an issue, like
I don't know. Maybe I guess it would depend on that,
but I don't know. You're right, Like, what if you're
recovering alcoholic? Do you not have alcohol at your event
for other people because you don't want to be around it.
I mean, I suppose that's your choice. But then again,
I would imagine your friends would know that it's a
sensitivity about you, and maybe it wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Be Probably that she's pregnant and she's not going to
be drinking anyway, so I think they should have had
alcohol to begin with.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, don't be the no fun police if you're pregnant.
I'm sorry that. I'm sorry that you can't drink anyat
sushi and lunch and go to Subway lunch, me to whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I'm sorry about that, Like I really am, man, But
but you shot it up and you got it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know you you you know what I'm saying, Like
you you guys made the call to have a kid,
and for nine months, that's just the way it's going
to be, and I'm sorry about that for you.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I am, but I did not make that choice.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, I am unable to be pregnated myself, and I
would like to have a drink at your baby shower
because I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 8 (14:07):
And I'm sure people are spending a lot of money
to begin with his gifts, so you can give.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Them, right, I agree, thank you, Thank you very much.
Of a good day.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Who are vegan and they've had like a dinner party
and it's only vegan options. It's like, I'm vegan, that's
what I want to eat, and you just got to
kind of roll with it. I mean, Rufio, you talked
about your wife's pregnant and you're not drinking really because
she can't drink right, right.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I'm not a huge drinker in the first place, but
I'll have like one drink, but I'm not getting hammerd right,
let me take six drinks home from the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Restaurant next time. About Rufio as a puppy, I'm taking
everything home. If it's not bolted to the table, I'm
taking it home because.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
First taking
Speaker 5 (15:00):
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