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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fresh show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is what's trending, all right, guys, a couple of
political stories and then we'll move on. But Vice President
Kamala Harris secured enough delegates on Monday night to become
the Democratic nominee for president at the party's convention in
Chicago next month. She became the front runner on Sunday
after President Joe Biden dropped his reelection bid and urged
his supporters to unite around his VP instead. She's also
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been endorsed by key Democratic figures such as former Secretary
of State Hillary Clinton and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
You got nasty yesterday after Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheetahbili
say you say your name, testified before the House Oversight
Committee for more than four hours and they want her
to resign after the whole Trump thing, oh, the assassination attempt,
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and they were terrible. I mean, the thing about these,
you know, Senate and Congress hearings and whatever else, is
I feel like it's hard to know how how much
passion there really is for the topic at hand, because
all these people are trying to do is get their
their moment. They're trying to say the thing in the
five minutes they get that's going to land them on
the nightly news or land them on TikTok or land
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them viral.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So it's like, are you really this mad?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Or are you just did you just come up with
something that you thought would get you, you know, more
coverage for yourself. I mean, and people should be mad
about this. This is not right. What happened is weird.
There's a lot of questions. I don't really care what
here we go with the text? Oh honestly, like I
really don't care what side of the aisle you're on.
That shouldn't have happened like that. So what happened? Why
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did it happen? Why are you still in the job?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
She doesn't. They want her to resign. She won't resign.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's like, you know, but then they just remember when
we were doing this whole thing with Ticketmaster in Congress
or Senator whatever in these hearings, and like you, clearly
these guys were having their aids right Taylor swift lyrics
into their little speeches, and it was like, all right, guys,
we got it, Like you want to wind up on TikTok,
we understand. I'm not sure if this helps anybody or anything.
But they basically just told this woman how much she
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sucked for four and a half hours, and like as
soon as you think you're done, then it's the next
person's turn. And each person is like their own independent,
you know, presenter. So it's like, right, exactly, like we
already covered this, I suck at my job. Okay, I
suck at my job. We got it. I don't know
right then for another four and a half hours, I
get to hear like, you know, honestly, I would have
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resigned like fifteen minutes into that thing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I would have been like, so way, Manue. Let me
ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
If I tell you, if I just walk out, if
I quit right now and leave, does this end? Does
this mean we don't have to do this anymore? Like
if I just go get a job at Arby's, Yes,
do I no longer have to get roasted by you
babel Is? If the answer is yes, then my answer
is yes and I'm gone. What else do I hear
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for you guys?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Today?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Lebron James will be the male flag bearer for Team
USA at the Olympics, which will have its opening ceremony
Friday in Paris. A female flag bearer is expected to
be named later this week. Now, this is interesting to note.
Lebron is the first men's basketball player to be named
Team USA is flag bearer. So not Kobe, not Michael,
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but Lebron. And this isn't like just for the team
for the basketball team, this is flag bear for the
entire United States Olympic team. He was voted into this role.
So you know, I guess he's more likable than I thought.
But then again, for some people like you, much younger
generation for the most part, going to the Olympics, right,
like a lot of athletes are much younger. He is
the Michael Jordan of that era, so of course they
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would name him like one of the oldest guys there, right, right,
But they're also talking about this yesterday. I saw the
whole thing about how Michael and Kobe didn't care if
anyone liked them. They didn't care if they were the
flag bear. They didn't care. It was like they just
went to play and cared to pete and win. They
didn't care about any of this other stuff. And so
that's why it's maybe they weren't all that friendly to everybody,
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or they weren't you know, political, they weren't whatever, and
Lebron seems to be a likable guy to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So at the same time, there's there was other Olympias,
Like there's Olympians that are more deserving at the time,
you know, saying like there's guys that this is this
is this is it for them?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know what I'm saying, Like Lebron has the in right, right, yeah, right,
that's you know. Then there's like guys that just run
track every four years.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Just yeah, there's this there's not a lot of fame
and not a lot of money and you know, right, yeah,
I get that.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And let's answer the age old question does money buy happiness?
Do you guys think money buys happiness?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Truly? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Do you think if you have more money that you're
more likely to be happy?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
No, I'll let you know when I get there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I can't answer that question honestly, But I mean
I would like to believe you, yes, Yes, I would
like to believes Yes. It's got to make life easier.
It's got to make life easier.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It gives you options, I think, right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
That doesn't mean like your relationships are going to be good,
that your parents will love you more or less, or
that your kids will love you or what. It doesn't
mean any of that, but I mean, at least you don't.
Your kids could hate you and you could be poor, right,
I mean, you could hate your dad and also hate
your job and not necessarily have enough money to like
buy bread, and then that's a sad story.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But at least if you hate your dad but you
can buy bread, you're eating a sandwich while hating your dad.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I mean, it makes you comfortable. I don't think it
makes you happy. I mean, there's so many other factors
to happiness.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, stress may be eliminated, but I mean I've heard
so many people get famous and say I still look
in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I still have the same issues. It didn't fix anything,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I use what little money I do get paid
around here to get therapy, and then the therapy really
helps me survive. So that's good. Well that ends Yeah,
and whiskey Yeah those two things, yeah, right? And women, Yeah,
except now, except not that I gave that up for lent.
So does money buy happiness? The answer is actually yes.
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That used to be no, And there used to be
like a plateau or like a h they call it
a plateau.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Actually I get to it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But there used to be a number two which if
you made more than this number, then you weren't exponentially happy,
happier relative to the amount of wealth above this number.
So like, you see what I'm saying, So I'll tell
you what it is in a minute. But it used
to be like if you made I'll make it up
fifty thousand dollars a year, that if you made one
hundred thousand, you weren't doubly happy. But up until that
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fifty thousand dollars point, you were happier each increment until
you got there. But then not like if you went
from fifty to two hundred, then you weren't like four
times happier I would be, but that's just me. According
to new research at UPenn the Wharton School, there is
no happiness plateau or point at which more money is
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no longer associated with greater happiness. So they asked thirty
three thousand people, which is I mean, this is a
good survey, unlike most surveys we talk about here, where
they asked four people and got their answers between the
ages of eighteen and sixty five, with annual incomes of
at least ten thousand dollars. They found that the so
called happiness gap between affluent and middle income participants those
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were the average annual income of between seventy and eighty
thousand dollars, was larger than that between middle and low
income subjects. Not only that, but the scientists busted long
held assumption that once people attain enough money to be comfortable,
their happiness flat lines. Instead, millionaires and billionaires were found
to be substantially and statistically significantly happier than people earning
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over five hundred thousand dollars a year. So also the
seventy five thousand dollars happiness plateau is also not true anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So that was the number I was referring to.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That you get to seventy five grand, and then your
happiness doesn't go up relative to the amount of money
that beyond seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know. I mean, I think that would make
me happy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think one hundred and fifty would make me happier
than seventy five, and I think three hundred would make
me a lot happier than that, and I think a
million would make me really you know what I mean?
But yeah, I guess not the health. What I mean,
I'm really like thinking about this because Kaitlin's right. I mean,
you're like, if you have I don't know, a bit depression,
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or if your health isn't good, which are million factors
that have nothing to do with money, of course, a
million factors that have nothing that you can't buy your
way out of.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Of course, that being.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Said, if I got some bad stuff going on, but
I got a couple of fly honeys in my roles.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
With me.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Just for the night, you'll like the fly honeys in
the morning, you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Know, like I'm fly.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But that's like and meaningless, and you're like, I hate myself.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know later I'll feel that way. But at least
I have at least, Hey, it's better than not ever
having those moments of glory, right, I mean, yeah, there's
a price to be paid for the moments of glory,
but at least I've got them.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
You have those, You're going on a trip this weekend
best friends.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's a moment, of course.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
But if I may double the money, there's simply a
lot we wouldn't be going we would be going somewhere else.
Instead we're going to Carbondale, Illinois. But it's gonna be wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They got cao, they got a casino, they got a steakhouse,
they got a lake, they got boats, they got this
is guys they got I don't know, but maybe they
got fly honey. We'll get to this. But I did
I chose. I mean this, I was thoughtful about this vacation.
I'm taking you guys on on the nearly private airline.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I mean, come on, come on, guys. Do we get
a stipend for the casino? The spot? It's how much
money is in your bank account?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's right, right, So I'll just be like, just charge
it to uh Fred's room and guess what it's.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
The ro is not under my legal manor anymore. I
changed the legal man. It's under Harry Houdini. It's under
knees nuts, sir. How do you spell that? How easy? Hey,
frend show is on. It's Stay or Go.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Darcy is here? Good morning, Darcy? How you doing?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm doing okay, Darcy. Welcome to the program. Stair Go.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So a little relationship advice, little little group therapy happening
right now? What's going on with this guy? This is
your husband of fifteen years. You're calling us about something real, Like,
this isn't for real. We're not messing around with some
six month relationship. This is fifteen years. You've been married
to this man.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Well, not only have we've been married for fifteen years,
but we were together seven years before.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We got married.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And they always told me, marry your best friend, marry
your best friend, so I did.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Twenty two years you've been together, right, I does some
quick mathew, just two years at the top of the dome. Yeah, no,
I am, I am. I'm good with you. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
The problem is not that I don't love him.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I do.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
The problem is is that I don't want to be
intimate with him, Like I don't want to have sex
with him, and I have it for a really long time,
and I try to push those feelings down because, like
you just said, it's been twenty two years that we
have been together. And people say you go through phases
and the spark comes and it goes, but it went
a long time ago and it has not come back,
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And like we'll get intimate sometimes, but it's more of
like obligation than it is anything else, and I feel
terrible about it. But every time I try to bring
it up with other people, they always say, oh, the
dating world is so hard and the grass isn't always
greener and you have your best friend, Like what more
could you want? Well, I want to be with someone
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who I want like that.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Why would you say things have subsided romantically intimately? Like
can you can you pinpoint why you're not interested? Like,
I mean, are you guys still getting along? Are you
still communicating well? Has there been any kind of infidelity?
I mean, is there some sort of dysfunction? I mean,
I'm just trying to get to the bike or is
it simply you've just grown out of wanting to be
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intimate with him and you just feel like you're married
to your friend.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
I feel like I'm married to my friend, and I
don't know that I ever grew out of it. I think,
geek down. I've always known it's always been like that,
But I listen to everybody else who said, this is
your best friend, and he is, like, there's nobody else
I want to spend time with other than him, But
when it gets down to that bedroom, it's it's like
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I'm laying there with my brother and I'm like, I
don't want to new day.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
There's nobody else that does he wants to spend time
with except for maybe somebody to have sex.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
With her other than that, but.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Other than that, this guy, This guy's everything just so
you can, okay, could you? And I'm just trying to,
like it, be proactive here. I mean, is there anything,
like what if he tried to be romantic? Like, is
there anything that he can do? I mean, is it
really just dead like you're just not interested? Or is
there Is it a matter of effort? Is it a
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matter of seduction? Is it a matter of you know,
he's not romantic with you anymore, he doesn't take you on,
you know what I mean? Like, is there anything going
on that he could adjust to maybe make this more
attractive to you?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Again?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Maybe, but I think even if he tried, it would
just give me the ick. I think we're at that
point to even if he tried to seduce me, I
don't know if he is the person I want seducing me.
And I know that that sounds so terrible. I know
it sounds so awful, but it's just how I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Have you discussed this with him. I mean, if you
guys communicated about this, does he feel the same way.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
He does not feel the same way. He feels the
same way everybody else does. That we're just going through
a rough patch and you know, we just need to
talk more. And I feel like all we do is
talk about it, which I'd rather do than the alternative.
I'll talk to you forever. I just feel like we're
talking in a circle. And I don't know if it
will ever come back to me feeling that way towards him,
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like I love him, and I always heard people say
this is always thought it was such a lie. I
just don't know that I'm in love with him. But
if there is something that he could do, I would
try it because nothing would break my heart more than
to break his heart.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, because if he's still really into it and wants
to do it and you don't, then this isn't a
situation where I think you could go and present some
sort of counter solution, Like you know, you can't go
to a guy who still wants to be with you
and you don't and be like, hey, how about if
we open up this marriage or something. Because I've heard
of situations that people have been married for a very
long time, maybe they have kids, maybe they are established
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in their lives and they care about each other, they
love each other. The intimacy just isn't there. But they
don't want to blow up their whole lives. So they
both decide, hey, look, you know, you can go off
and do something, just don't let me find out about it,
or we can go off, or we're going to open
up this relationship or whatever. But both parties are okay
with that, or at least appear to be in this case.
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I feel like if you went to him and said, hey,
can we open up this relationship, he'd be, you know,
highly insulted and hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I think so too, But a part of me thinks
that sounds like a really good idea, because if I
could go somewhere else and have that aspect, she still
have this back at home. I'm like, what a great idea.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's a real thing. This is a real thing. She's
not saying he's a bad guy. She's not saying that
she doesn't love him. She's not saying she doesn't care
about him. She's not even saying she doesn't like spending
time with him. What she's saying is, for whatever reason,
the intimacy has expired, she doesn't believe she can fix it.
And so what does she do? Does she blow up
the entire relationship and lose her best friend over sex?
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Does she say forget it? I guess I'll just be celibate.
Does she cheat? Does she ask for an open relationship?
You know again, I mean think about what her options are.
You thought about therapy. People were asking about therapy.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, we've thought about therapy and going.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I just think that we're looking at this situation from
two different viewpoints, and I don't think he's looking at
it as we need therapy. I think he's looking at
it as we can work this out at home. And
I'm perfectly fine going to therapy. My concern with therapy
is saying something like you just suggested of an open marriage,
and then we just open up a whole other can
of worms, and I'm nervous about that. We have talked
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about therapy, we have not actively.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Gone you know what he needs?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He needs that stuff I see advertised on TikTok all
the time. That gum that makes it like super hard,
you know what I mean? Like that there's a gum.
I forget what it's called, like blue chee or something.
It's all I see it advertising on TikTok all the time. Yeah,
it's like, does your man have the blue Cheo? It's
like because maybe if he comes home and he's just
like you, maybe maybe what it's going to take is
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a little passion on his point. The blue cho Well,
maybe he's targeting men because he wouldn't say blue cheo.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean I would get.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't need it yet, I'm sure I will, but
I've considered ordering it just to see what the hell happened.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, an experiment.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I've thought about getting my agres too, just to see
what happened, just to see what I mean again, there's
going to come a time where I'm going to need
that stuff. I don't yet, but I'm afraid my heart
would explode it. I'm afraid I'm just getting greedy, That's
what i mean. Like, it's already working fine, it doesn't
need to work finer than fine. But I'm curious. You know,
my mind wants to know what the hell is blue
choo stuff. But it's not even that Darcy, because I
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asked you if there was some kind of dysfunction, and
you said no, No, I.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Feel like if he came home with that problem, that
feels like a hymn problem right now, because that isn't
the problem of him being able to perform.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What the problem is is that I don't want to
come to the show. Wouldn't you almost rather that, though?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Wouldn't you almost rather that you really wanted the guy
and everything was there he would just he just needed
to work through some kind of a physiological issue. Wouldn't
that be better?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
If it's like I know, that's also uncomfortable, but at
least a desire is there, and you guys can go
together and work it out and figure out whatever the
health matter is or whatever help he needs or you
need or whatever. But in this case, this dude could
be coming in ready to go all the time. He
could be blue chewing it up right now, and it
wouldn't matter because you don't want it.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
No, And I would even be more comfortable right now
if there's been infidelity and we could work through that.
This feels like I am the problem. This feels like
I am ruining my marriage because of the way that
I feel, and I can't change the way that I
feel But if he came to me and said that
he cheated, I could say, well, let's work on that.
This doesn't feel like we can work on it. I mean,
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I don't know if other people that have been married
as long or together with someone for twenty two years
have ever been to this situation. But everyone I seem
to talk to just says, you just have to work
through it. And it doesn't feel like something I want
to work through because life's a little too short.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
To be this unhappy.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Yeah, I think that she's using the word and you are.
You're saying that that's my best friend. That's my best friend, right,
so I think you're taking a lot of this blame
on yourself. You're like, I'd rather him cheat and do that,
and it's like, I wouldn't even go that far. I
just think that you have lost that spark for him.
But I think that's okay. Sad.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I know it's sad.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's very upsetting, right, it's her husband for twenty two years.
But if this is a really your best friend that
you keep calling, you know, this is my best friend,
this is the worst and I care about I think
it's best to go your separate ways.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So that maybe you can still remain friends. You can
still remain that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Let's face it, if he cheats, then she has an opening.
If he cheats, then she can dump him.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So nice. If he cheats, then she could go, well,
I now, well why don't you just keep doing that?
And I'll do this.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, it's nice, no offense, Darcy, but him him
doing something anything other than you addressing.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The issue is kind of just a cop out.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's kind of just a work around, right, I mean,
because ultimately none of that's going to feel You're not
really going to be happy if e chee. It's because
you say you still love him and you care about him.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I do, but then I would feel like his needs
of being met but troblem what that is. And I
you know, he is my best friend. I don't think
our friendship or this relationship would survive me coming to
him and telling him I'm just not attracted to you anymore,
because I don't know how I would take that emotionally,
my ego if you came to me and said I
don't want to be intimate with you, I'm the only
one you should want to be intimate with and you're
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telling me that, like I love him so much.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
That's why I'm not telling him all of that. Darcy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
A lot of people are like are pointing to like,
maybe you should go get your hormone check to this,
and that I have to ask, I mean, do you
have the desire otherwise just not with him, or do
you have no desire at all, just just to check
that box.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
No, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
There are people that I see that I find attractive
and I fantasize about that. I don't act on it
because I I am married, So I think that desire.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is still there.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So this is not a matter of like, you know,
I don't know you're taking medicine that it has reduced
your libido or because that's also an issue, where like
there really isn't a problem. There's just you know, as
far as the connections concerned, there's just something going on
where you're you have less drive than you once said.
Let me take some phone calls on this, because we're
a bunch of morons and we're just talking. Maybe other
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people have have been through this and can offer something,
but yeah, it kind of sounds like you're gonna have
to have a really tough conversation and you're gonna have
to just be really honest and maybe me.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I don't know. I don't know how you. I really
don't know how you fix it. But fair right for
the both of them. And I don't know one who
thinks that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, but here's a guy who sounds like he still
wants it. She just doesn't want it. That's gonna be
devastating to hear it is I'm leaving.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Someone over sex, though, I mean after that.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I don't know. It's the grass that you always greener.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
On the other side, you can't have your kids like that,
that's true, But do you want a little single Like, yes,
you're gonna have a lot of sex, but you're gonna
be you could not be in a relationship for the
longest time.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You can be lonely for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I got a whole list of things you can say
to people on dating apps to if you need it,
like you're so out ah w anyway, let me take
some phone calls, Darcy, have the radio one.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I wish you the best. This is tough, this is complicated.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know the right because because Ruvio is right,
I mean, do you want to live a sexless celibate
life with your best friend. No, but if you lose
this guy who's this you know, this paramount relationship in
your life so that you can go out and have
a bunch of you know, average of disappointing physical connections, then.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Then I don't know, is that better? Not sure?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It probably feels like it now, but it may not
be in the long run. Thank you, Darcy, good luck.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I got an Amazon look for you girl. Yeah, okay
for a little Z. So you're suggesting kikiS some.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
And then yeah, she might just need to spice it up,
get herself some some some some adult toys maybe that
she can try out. I mean, I feel like she
has not tried everything yet. She's just like I don't
want it, but like, try some things first before you
leave your husband. In best friend, I feel so bad
for him all these years, Like I feel so bad
for the husband, like he's I feel like he's done
(22:08):
nothing wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Now she doesn't want this either, though, I mean, you
know you can't fight those.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
But it's not like he's not like it's not like
he's bad in bed or he's not.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
He doesn't want you. He wants to have sex with
his wife. Yeah, but she does.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Want to have sort of outgrown him in some ways.
And I feel like there's always more in these situations.
There's always more going on. There's something else here that
we probably don't I don't know, but I've also never
been with somebody for twenty two years, so I don't
know what it's. I mean, honestly, I don't know that
I would even have any sort of basis for comparison
to be the same person for that period of time. Hey, Christina,
(22:41):
good morning. Hey what do you think stay or go?
So just to recap here, this woman's been with this man,
married for like seventeen years, together for twenty two or something,
and she just doesn't want to sleep with him anymore,
loves him, considers him her best friend, doesn't really have
the desire to be with him anymore. She still has
those desires, just not with him. He wants to be
(23:01):
with her, and she's not sure what to do. What
do you think?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
I just think that sex is something that you know,
every human being needs in their life, So to hold
it back from somebody, I think is worse. So I
think that she should go, but you know, she should
go in a way where she talks to him about it.
I mean, they are best friends, they do have a connection, and.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And what he can give it you broke up for
just a second or what.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Sorry, Like who's who's to say they're not going to
be remain best friends? He could talk to him about it,
but I really feel like she needs to go or
give him the option to have an open marriage. Yeah,
because he just can't take that away from somebody. It's
like he's being punished.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But it's just that's just not that simple, Like it's
not that simple to say, because like there's someone like me,
for example, I that would never work for me. Like
if you came to me and said, I love you,
but I don't want to be with you anymore. How
about I sleep with other men and stay with you,
I'd be devastated. That's the end. And you know, so,
I mean it's not just that symbols just let's just
say by other folks in like, I don't know, I
think I would either be in or out on that one.
(24:07):
I don't know that I could just be with someone
who's like, I love you, but I really don't want
you to like get anywhere near me sexually, Like that
would have been but other men can I don't know. Christina,
thank you have a good day.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Glad you called. And that battle that's just me. I mean,
I trust me. Go on.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Speaking of dating apps, going on these dating apps, ethical ethic,
this is I'm using air quotes ethical non monogamy all
over the place, all over the place. People And yeah,
I'm in a relationship, but I want and it's and
it's all out there, but I want to sleep with
other people too. It's very common and if it works
for you, that's great.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I just I don't know, right, And do we always
have it all every single part of a relationship all
the time, for the entirety, you know what I mean? Like,
is it always you have every part of it? Noel,
I feel like that's an unfair expectation.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Hey Dawn, good morning, welcome, good morning. So how are
you okay? What do you think? Great? Thanks for asking?
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I think she should stay? And I feel like when
she's saying she just keeps her kiating like best friend,
best friend, I love them and stuff like that. It
just sounds like things are routine and comfortable and I'm
presuming and I may have missed this at the very beginning.
Speaker 10 (25:17):
I'm presuming that they were pretty sparky at the beginning
of the relationship.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
That's why they.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
Got into relationship and got married and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
And I think, and it sounds really cliche, but it
just sounds like.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
The spark is the spark is missing.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
I'm not gonna say it's gone, but it's missing.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
And maybe maybe they if they talk, maybe he has
to do a little digging and figure out, you know what,
what's something new that or something that used to work,
you know, what's something new that I can do that
they really knocked her off her heels, you know, and
rest her up.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't see, but I don't think it would matter.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It doesn't This dude could come in, you know, wrapped
in latex and you know, all oiled up, But I
don't know that it would matter. I doesn't sound like
she would care. It's a bad spot to be in
where there's nothing you can do. All the blue cheo
in the world is not going to solve this problem.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
But maybe maybe they're just because it's so roteat and comfortable,
maybe not thinking outside of the box like that. Maybe,
like he said, maybe maybe better go find a toy
or something or I don't know, maybe can be a
late texting, or maybe maybe it's just a nice long
day like in a lazy river somewhere in a picnic
and just.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I mean, you know what I mean if.
Speaker 10 (26:26):
If you're like I don't, I don't know their lifestyle,
so maybe they're just constantly on til it with kids
and work and whatever and really stressed out until if
they just have a really lazy, calm day and can
just I don't know, throw out different things.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I hear you figure something out. Thank you.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
That's a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, thank you, thank you, John, appreciate you have a
great day. It's going to be a painful conversation. So
before she torpedoes the whole damn thing, she may as
well get a sex therapist and a wall or somebody
you know, and have that conversation. You may as well
go for it. Well lay it all out there, because
it's gonna go one or two ways. Either he's gonna
I don't know, I guess you could go a number
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of ways. He's going to be super hurt and offended
and there's no coming back. He's going to say, well,
what if we try a bunch of stuff and then
she'll go, well, I may as well, or they're going
to break up. I guess he's gonna go I feel
the same way. Maybe I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's the French show. Good morning. So we came on
the phone yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We had Ian and Nina on, and if you remember,
Ian met Nina on the dating apps. They went on
a date and and Ian did admit that his father
showed up to get carry out at the restaurant they
happened to be at, and and Nina was kind enough
to sort of say, oh, hey, nice to meet you. You
want to have a drink with us? Like why he
was waiting for his food, like kind of incorporate him
(27:44):
into the date, you know what I mean? I mean,
what are you supposed to do? Like, yeah, blow off
the dad. He's kind of a weird chance event that
would happen. But anyway, so we hadn't Neena Ian on
and they're back, Good morning guys, runnang. And so what
we wanted to know is because Ian says it's not possible.
(28:05):
All well, I should tell you the second part in
case you didn't hear it. When we did talk to
Meena yesterday, she said that dominic Ian's dad was flirtatious
with her, touched her leg, was flirting with her.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, he was in the bathroom, well.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
While Ian was away. And Ian his response, Your response,
Ian that't want to make sure I'm getting all this right.
And Nina too was that there's no way he could
have done this because he's married to your mom and
he would.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Never That's what I'm saying, Okay, And Nina, you still
contend that he absolutely did.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yes, I mean absolutely, Like there's a difference between being
friendly and putting your hand on someone's sigh and calling
them beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I would agree, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And so we said yesterday, well let's see if we
can get the dad on the phone. His name is
dominic Let's see what happens with that. And so you
texted your dad and we got him. And so, ladies
and gentlemen, I'd like you to meet dominic Ian's dad. Morning,
dominic Good good morning, Fred? Oh it was it? Good
morning Fred? What is it like like a radio? Did
you have a did you do radio or summer stock
(29:09):
or like community theater or like what?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Good morning everybody?
Speaker 11 (29:13):
Well, if you think I should, we can talk about that,
but no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But okay, so you heard the explanation here. Ian and
Nina went out. I guess you ran into Ian and
Nina at the restaurant. Nina says you flirted with her
and it made her uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I think this is being blown out of all proportion.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
I think to say I was hitting on her, that's
that's an exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You were not hitting on Nina then, and you're you're
a married man, you're married to Ian's mom. You're saying
that Nina made the whole thing up. You did not
touch her leg. I touched I touched her leg.
Speaker 11 (29:49):
Look, any any man would be helpless around a woman
that beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
You know, it's just hard.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You're married, dude. You don't get to be helpless right
other women. You're married. You're married, and plus that's your
that's your son's date.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I didn't think there was anything to it. It was
just like I said, it's harmless flirting. You know, it
just happens all the time. It's not not a big game.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
I didn't think it would turn into a whole situation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, so Ian, he's he's not denying it. He flirted
with your date. Because he was helpless beautiful. She's very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, how did you keep your hands off of her?
You know, like, how could you?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I think?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
First off, I want to say sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
To Nina and you know Dad, I, uh, this is
so weird, man, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's not cool, man, Oh my god, say sorry to
all of us. This is weird.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
First of all, thank you Ian for apologizing to Nina.
That was a nice thing to do, because it turned
out that Nina, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Nina, I said, yeah, thank you, Like that was very nice.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I mean, we all believed her. We all knew that
she wasn't crazy. The only person here who didn't really
believe her, Ian was you. So you apologized, Uh, well,
my dad, I don't think he's doing it. Well, how
does it make you feel about your dad? Because yeah,
I mean he's married to your mom. Friends friendly. I mean,
there's but don't we know at a certain point in
(31:15):
our lives, the difference between lecherous and friendly, like creepy
and being nice, cordial and being.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Like if he was helpless though fried by her beauty?
I mean, I mean, come on, that's.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
I tell John his man was a creep putting your
hand on somebody else's leg, Like come on.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Now, yeah, yeah, it's not appropriate. So it's not like
I was massaging her knee. I mean maybe I'm from
a different time, but it was just a very casual
you know. Yeah, that's that's called assault. Yeah, you're not
supposed to do that either unless somebody wants you to.
So well, here's my question though, Nina, like does this
change anything, because you know, it sounds like Ian's kind
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of shocked. He didn't realize his dad was of this
or would do it or did do it, and and
and he kind of is admitting that he did. So
I don't know, do you want nothing to do with
Ian because his dad's weird? Or do you do you
now look at Ian differently because he's he's figuring out
that his is weird.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I mean, like again, like Ian's great, but like just
to imagine, like I don't know, at Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Or nothing, you've seen this movie before? You don't you
don't want any part of it?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
He accidentally walks in, are you changing, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I've seen I've seen this one. Yeah so no, so no,
no second date, I because we'll pay for it if
you want to give Ian another chance, and we'll ask
the father, we'll get a restraining order, a protective order
against him so he can't come.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
I'm so sorry to Ian, like but no, all.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right, Ian, I'm sorry, man, I don't know how you know,
how you deal with this and your dad need to
have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's that's that's yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
My mom I had to be in that conversation too.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I think she needs to be and a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Well, I mean maybe Thanksgiving dinner, a couple of glasses
of wine and everybody will see things a little bit differently.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, Like I said, you know, my day, this was
not a big deal. You know, I was just trying
to be nice. I think you know it's a harmless
it was a harmless interaction.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh I see back in your day. Yeah, yeah, okay,
So this is a generational thing, that is what you're saying,
dominic like, because when you were younger, you can just
touch anybody's girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's okay, But now it's weird you can't do that.
Speaker 11 (33:28):
I don't even if we know if we call that
touching just gently putting your hand on a young lady's leg.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I mean, is that you honestly that made me feel uncomfortable,
Like right now, my skin is crawling hearing you talk.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
So we're gonna be we're gonna be done now. But
maybe it is, maybe it is a generational thing.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't think I think it's a I think I
think we everyone knows what it is. But Ian, I'm
sorry that you find out this way.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Nina.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Thank you for your patience and for your time, and
I'm sorry it didn't work out. Good luck to all
of you.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay,
Fresh show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is what's trending, all right, guys, a couple of
political stories and then we'll move on. But Vice President
Kamala Harris secured enough delegates on Monday night to become
the Democratic nominee for president at the party's convention in
Chicago next month. She became the front runner on Sunday
after President Joe Biden dropped his reelection bid and urged
his supporters to unite around his VP instead. She's also
(00:23):
been endorsed by key Democratic figures such as former Secretary
of State Hillary Clinton and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
You got nasty yesterday after Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheetahbili
say you say your name, testified before the House Oversight
Committee for more than four hours and they want her
to resign after the whole Trump thing, oh, the assassination attempt,
(00:50):
and they were terrible. I mean, the thing about these,
you know, Senate and Congress hearings and whatever else, is
I feel like it's hard to know how how much
passion there really is for the topic at hand, because
all these people are trying to do is get their
their moment. They're trying to say the thing in the
five minutes they get that's going to land them on
the nightly news or land them on TikTok or land
(01:11):
them viral.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So it's like, are you really this mad?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Or are you just did you just come up with
something that you thought would get you, you know, more
coverage for yourself. I mean, and people should be mad
about this. This is not right. What happened is weird.
There's a lot of questions. I don't really care what
here we go with the text? Oh honestly, like I
really don't care what side of the aisle you're on.
That shouldn't have happened like that. So what happened? Why
(01:36):
did it happen? Why are you still in the job?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
She doesn't. They want her to resign. She won't resign.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's like, you know, but then they just remember when
we were doing this whole thing with Ticketmaster in Congress
or Senator whatever in these hearings, and like you, clearly
these guys were having their aids right Taylor swift lyrics
into their little speeches, and it was like, all right, guys,
we got it, Like you want to wind up on TikTok,
we understand. I'm not sure if this helps anybody or anything.
But they basically just told this woman how much she
(02:03):
sucked for four and a half hours, and like as
soon as you think you're done, then it's the next
person's turn. And each person is like their own independent,
you know, presenter. So it's like, right, exactly, like we
already covered this, I suck at my job. Okay, I
suck at my job. We got it. I don't know
right then for another four and a half hours, I
get to hear like, you know, honestly, I would have
(02:24):
resigned like fifteen minutes into that thing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I would have been like, so way, Manue. Let me
ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
If I tell you, if I just walk out, if
I quit right now and leave, does this end? Does
this mean we don't have to do this anymore? Like
if I just go get a job at Arby's, Yes,
do I no longer have to get roasted by you
babel Is? If the answer is yes, then my answer
is yes and I'm gone. What else do I hear
(02:52):
for you guys?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Today?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Lebron James will be the male flag bearer for Team
USA at the Olympics, which will have its opening ceremony
Friday in Paris. A female flag bearer is expected to
be named later this week. Now, this is interesting to note.
Lebron is the first men's basketball player to be named
Team USA is flag bearer. So not Kobe, not Michael,
(03:12):
but Lebron. And this isn't like just for the team
for the basketball team, this is flag bear for the
entire United States Olympic team. He was voted into this role.
So you know, I guess he's more likable than I thought.
But then again, for some people like you, much younger
generation for the most part, going to the Olympics, right,
like a lot of athletes are much younger. He is
the Michael Jordan of that era, so of course they
(03:33):
would name him like one of the oldest guys there, right, right,
But they're also talking about this yesterday. I saw the
whole thing about how Michael and Kobe didn't care if
anyone liked them. They didn't care if they were the
flag bear. They didn't care. It was like they just
went to play and cared to pete and win. They
didn't care about any of this other stuff. And so
that's why it's maybe they weren't all that friendly to everybody,
(03:55):
or they weren't you know, political, they weren't whatever, and
Lebron seems to be a likable guy to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
So at the same time, there's there was other Olympias,
Like there's Olympians that are more deserving at the time,
you know, saying like there's guys that this is this
is this is it for them?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know what I'm saying, Like Lebron has the in right, right, yeah, right,
that's you know. Then there's like guys that just run
track every four years.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Just yeah, there's this there's not a lot of fame
and not a lot of money and you know, right, yeah,
I get that.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And let's answer the age old question does money buy happiness?
Do you guys think money buys happiness?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Truly? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Do you think if you have more money that you're
more likely to be happy?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
No, I'll let you know when I get there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I can't answer that question honestly, But I mean
I would like to believe you, yes, Yes, I would
like to believes Yes. It's got to make life easier.
It's got to make life easier.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It gives you options, I think, right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
That doesn't mean like your relationships are going to be good,
that your parents will love you more or less, or
that your kids will love you or what. It doesn't
mean any of that, but I mean, at least you don't.
Your kids could hate you and you could be poor, right,
I mean, you could hate your dad and also hate
your job and not necessarily have enough money to like
buy bread, and then that's a sad story.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But at least if you hate your dad but you
can buy bread, you're eating a sandwich while hating your dad.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I mean, it makes you comfortable. I don't think it
makes you happy. I mean, there's so many other factors
to happiness.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, stress may be eliminated, but I mean I've heard
so many people get famous and say I still look
in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I still have the same issues. It didn't fix anything,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I use what little money I do get paid
around here to get therapy, and then the therapy really
helps me survive. So that's good. Well that ends Yeah,
and whiskey Yeah those two things, yeah, right? And women, Yeah,
except now, except not that I gave that up for lent.
So does money buy happiness? The answer is actually yes.
(05:51):
That used to be no, And there used to be
like a plateau or like a h they call it
a plateau.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Actually I get to it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But there used to be a number two which if
you made more than this number, then you weren't exponentially happy,
happier relative to the amount of wealth above this number.
So like, you see what I'm saying, So I'll tell
you what it is in a minute. But it used
to be like if you made I'll make it up
fifty thousand dollars a year, that if you made one
hundred thousand, you weren't doubly happy. But up until that
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fifty thousand dollars point, you were happier each increment until
you got there. But then not like if you went
from fifty to two hundred, then you weren't like four
times happier I would be, but that's just me. According
to new research at UPenn the Wharton School, there is
no happiness plateau or point at which more money is
(06:41):
no longer associated with greater happiness. So they asked thirty
three thousand people, which is I mean, this is a
good survey, unlike most surveys we talk about here, where
they asked four people and got their answers between the
ages of eighteen and sixty five, with annual incomes of
at least ten thousand dollars. They found that the so
called happiness gap between affluent and middle income participants those
(07:02):
were the average annual income of between seventy and eighty
thousand dollars, was larger than that between middle and low
income subjects. Not only that, but the scientists busted long
held assumption that once people attain enough money to be comfortable,
their happiness flat lines. Instead, millionaires and billionaires were found
to be substantially and statistically significantly happier than people earning
(07:24):
over five hundred thousand dollars a year. So also the
seventy five thousand dollars happiness plateau is also not true anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So that was the number I was referring to.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That you get to seventy five grand, and then your
happiness doesn't go up relative to the amount of money
that beyond seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know. I mean, I think that would make
me happy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think one hundred and fifty would make me happier
than seventy five, and I think three hundred would make
me a lot happier than that, and I think a
million would make me really you know what I mean?
But yeah, I guess not the health. What I mean,
I'm really like thinking about this because Kaitlin's right. I mean,
you're like, if you have I don't know, a bit depression,
(08:11):
or if your health isn't good, which are million factors
that have nothing to do with money, of course, a
million factors that have nothing that you can't buy your
way out of.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Of course, that being.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Said, if I got some bad stuff going on, but
I got a couple of fly honeys in my roles.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
With me.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Just for the night, you'll like the fly honeys in
the morning, you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Know, like I'm fly.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But that's like and meaningless, and you're like, I hate myself.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know later I'll feel that way. But at least
I have at least, Hey, it's better than not ever
having those moments of glory, right, I mean, yeah, there's
a price to be paid for the moments of glory,
but at least I've got them.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
You have those, You're going on a trip this weekend
best friends.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's a moment, of course.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
But if I may double the money, there's simply a
lot we wouldn't be going we would be going somewhere else.
Instead we're going to Carbondale, Illinois. But it's gonna be wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They got cao, they got a casino, they got a steakhouse,
they got a lake, they got boats, they got this
is guys they got I don't know, but maybe they
got fly honey. We'll get to this. But I did
I chose. I mean this, I was thoughtful about this vacation.
I'm taking you guys on on the nearly private airline.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I mean, come on, come on, guys. Do we get
a stipend for the casino? The spot? It's how much
money is in your bank account?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's right, right, So I'll just be like, just charge
it to uh Fred's room and guess what it's.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
The ro is not under my legal manor anymore. I
changed the legal man. It's under Harry Houdini. It's under
knees nuts, sir. How do you spell that? How easy? Hey,
frend show is on. It's Stay or Go.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Darcy is here? Good morning, Darcy? How you doing?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm doing okay, Darcy. Welcome to the program. Stair Go.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So a little relationship advice, little little group therapy happening
right now? What's going on with this guy? This is
your husband of fifteen years. You're calling us about something real, Like,
this isn't for real. We're not messing around with some
six month relationship. This is fifteen years. You've been married
to this man.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Well, not only have we've been married for fifteen years,
but we were together seven years before.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We got married.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And they always told me, marry your best friend, marry
your best friend, so I did.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Twenty two years you've been together, right, I does some
quick mathew, just two years at the top of the dome. Yeah, no,
I am, I am. I'm good with you. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
The problem is not that I don't love him.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I do.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
The problem is is that I don't want to be
intimate with him, Like I don't want to have sex
with him, and I have it for a really long time,
and I try to push those feelings down because, like
you just said, it's been twenty two years that we
have been together. And people say you go through phases
and the spark comes and it goes, but it went
a long time ago and it has not come back,
(11:16):
And like we'll get intimate sometimes, but it's more of
like obligation than it is anything else, and I feel
terrible about it. But every time I try to bring
it up with other people, they always say, oh, the
dating world is so hard and the grass isn't always
greener and you have your best friend, Like what more
could you want? Well, I want to be with someone
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who I want like that.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Why would you say things have subsided romantically intimately? Like
can you can you pinpoint why you're not interested? Like,
I mean, are you guys still getting along? Are you
still communicating well? Has there been any kind of infidelity?
I mean, is there some sort of dysfunction? I mean,
I'm just trying to get to the bike or is
it simply you've just grown out of wanting to be
(12:00):
intimate with him and you just feel like you're married
to your friend.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
I feel like I'm married to my friend, and I
don't know that I ever grew out of it. I think,
geek down. I've always known it's always been like that,
But I listen to everybody else who said, this is
your best friend, and he is, like, there's nobody else
I want to spend time with other than him, But
when it gets down to that bedroom, it's it's like
(12:24):
I'm laying there with my brother and I'm like, I
don't want to new day.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
There's nobody else that does he wants to spend time
with except for maybe somebody to have sex.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
With her other than that, but.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Other than that, this guy, This guy's everything just so
you can, okay, could you? And I'm just trying to,
like it, be proactive here. I mean, is there anything,
like what if he tried to be romantic? Like, is
there anything that he can do? I mean, is it
really just dead like you're just not interested? Or is
there Is it a matter of effort? Is it a
(12:54):
matter of seduction? Is it a matter of you know,
he's not romantic with you anymore, he doesn't take you on,
you know what I mean? Like, is there anything going
on that he could adjust to maybe make this more
attractive to you?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Again?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Maybe, but I think even if he tried, it would
just give me the ick. I think we're at that
point to even if he tried to seduce me, I
don't know if he is the person I want seducing me.
And I know that that sounds so terrible. I know
it sounds so awful, but it's just how I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Have you discussed this with him. I mean, if you
guys communicated about this, does he feel the same way.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
He does not feel the same way. He feels the
same way everybody else does. That we're just going through
a rough patch and you know, we just need to
talk more. And I feel like all we do is
talk about it, which I'd rather do than the alternative.
I'll talk to you forever. I just feel like we're
talking in a circle. And I don't know if it
will ever come back to me feeling that way towards him,
(13:50):
like I love him, and I always heard people say
this is always thought it was such a lie. I
just don't know that I'm in love with him. But
if there is something that he could do, I would
try it because nothing would break my heart more than
to break his heart.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, because if he's still really into it and wants
to do it and you don't, then this isn't a
situation where I think you could go and present some
sort of counter solution, Like you know, you can't go
to a guy who still wants to be with you
and you don't and be like, hey, how about if
we open up this marriage or something. Because I've heard
of situations that people have been married for a very
long time, maybe they have kids, maybe they are established
(14:25):
in their lives and they care about each other, they
love each other. The intimacy just isn't there. But they
don't want to blow up their whole lives. So they
both decide, hey, look, you know, you can go off
and do something, just don't let me find out about it,
or we can go off, or we're going to open
up this relationship or whatever. But both parties are okay
with that, or at least appear to be in this case.
(14:46):
I feel like if you went to him and said, hey,
can we open up this relationship, he'd be, you know,
highly insulted and hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I think so too, But a part of me thinks
that sounds like a really good idea, because if I
could go somewhere else and have that aspect, she still
have this back at home. I'm like, what a great idea.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's a real thing. This is a real thing. She's
not saying he's a bad guy. She's not saying that
she doesn't love him. She's not saying she doesn't care
about him. She's not even saying she doesn't like spending
time with him. What she's saying is, for whatever reason,
the intimacy has expired, she doesn't believe she can fix it.
And so what does she do? Does she blow up
the entire relationship and lose her best friend over sex?
(15:26):
Does she say forget it? I guess I'll just be celibate.
Does she cheat? Does she ask for an open relationship?
You know again, I mean think about what her options are.
You thought about therapy. People were asking about therapy.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, we've thought about therapy and going.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I just think that we're looking at this situation from
two different viewpoints, and I don't think he's looking at
it as we need therapy. I think he's looking at
it as we can work this out at home. And
I'm perfectly fine going to therapy. My concern with therapy
is saying something like you just suggested of an open marriage,
and then we just open up a whole other can
of worms, and I'm nervous about that. We have talked
(16:02):
about therapy, we have not actively.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Gone you know what he needs?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He needs that stuff I see advertised on TikTok all
the time. That gum that makes it like super hard,
you know what I mean? Like that there's a gum.
I forget what it's called, like blue chee or something.
It's all I see it advertising on TikTok all the time. Yeah,
it's like, does your man have the blue Cheo? It's
like because maybe if he comes home and he's just
like you, maybe maybe what it's going to take is
(16:26):
a little passion on his point. The blue cho Well,
maybe he's targeting men because he wouldn't say blue cheo.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean I would get.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't need it yet, I'm sure I will, but
I've considered ordering it just to see what the hell happened.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, an experiment.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I've thought about getting my agres too, just to see
what happened, just to see what I mean again, there's
going to come a time where I'm going to need
that stuff. I don't yet, but I'm afraid my heart
would explode it. I'm afraid I'm just getting greedy, That's
what i mean. Like, it's already working fine, it doesn't
need to work finer than fine. But I'm curious. You know,
my mind wants to know what the hell is blue
choo stuff. But it's not even that Darcy, because I
(17:01):
asked you if there was some kind of dysfunction, and
you said no, No, I.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Feel like if he came home with that problem, that
feels like a hymn problem right now, because that isn't
the problem of him being able to perform.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What the problem is is that I don't want to
come to the show. Wouldn't you almost rather that, though?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Wouldn't you almost rather that you really wanted the guy
and everything was there he would just he just needed
to work through some kind of a physiological issue. Wouldn't
that be better?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
If it's like I know, that's also uncomfortable, but at
least a desire is there, and you guys can go
together and work it out and figure out whatever the
health matter is or whatever help he needs or you
need or whatever. But in this case, this dude could
be coming in ready to go all the time. He
could be blue chewing it up right now, and it
wouldn't matter because you don't want it.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
No, And I would even be more comfortable right now
if there's been infidelity and we could work through that.
This feels like I am the problem. This feels like
I am ruining my marriage because of the way that
I feel, and I can't change the way that I
feel But if he came to me and said that
he cheated, I could say, well, let's work on that.
This doesn't feel like we can work on it. I mean,
(18:05):
I don't know if other people that have been married
as long or together with someone for twenty two years
have ever been to this situation. But everyone I seem
to talk to just says, you just have to work
through it. And it doesn't feel like something I want
to work through because life's a little too short.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
To be this unhappy.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Yeah, I think that she's using the word and you are.
You're saying that that's my best friend. That's my best friend, right,
so I think you're taking a lot of this blame
on yourself. You're like, I'd rather him cheat and do that,
and it's like, I wouldn't even go that far. I
just think that you have lost that spark for him.
But I think that's okay. Sad.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I know it's sad.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's very upsetting, right, it's her husband for twenty two years.
But if this is a really your best friend that
you keep calling, you know, this is my best friend,
this is the worst and I care about I think
it's best to go your separate ways.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So that maybe you can still remain friends. You can
still remain that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Let's face it, if he cheats, then she has an opening.
If he cheats, then she can dump him.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So nice. If he cheats, then she could go, well,
I now, well why don't you just keep doing that?
And I'll do this.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, it's nice, no offense, Darcy, but him him
doing something anything other than you addressing.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The issue is kind of just a cop out.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's kind of just a work around, right, I mean,
because ultimately none of that's going to feel You're not
really going to be happy if e chee. It's because
you say you still love him and you care about him.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I do, but then I would feel like his needs
of being met but troblem what that is. And I
you know, he is my best friend. I don't think
our friendship or this relationship would survive me coming to
him and telling him I'm just not attracted to you anymore,
because I don't know how I would take that emotionally,
my ego if you came to me and said I
don't want to be intimate with you, I'm the only
one you should want to be intimate with and you're
(19:36):
telling me that, like I love him so much.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
That's why I'm not telling him all of that. Darcy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
A lot of people are like are pointing to like,
maybe you should go get your hormone check to this,
and that I have to ask, I mean, do you
have the desire otherwise just not with him, or do
you have no desire at all, just just to check
that box.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
No, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
There are people that I see that I find attractive
and I fantasize about that. I don't act on it
because I I am married, So I think that desire.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is still there.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So this is not a matter of like, you know,
I don't know you're taking medicine that it has reduced
your libido or because that's also an issue, where like
there really isn't a problem. There's just you know, as
far as the connections concerned, there's just something going on
where you're you have less drive than you once said.
Let me take some phone calls on this, because we're
a bunch of morons and we're just talking. Maybe other
(20:23):
people have have been through this and can offer something,
but yeah, it kind of sounds like you're gonna have
to have a really tough conversation and you're gonna have
to just be really honest and maybe me.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I don't know. I don't know how you. I really
don't know how you fix it. But fair right for
the both of them. And I don't know one who
thinks that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, but here's a guy who sounds like he still
wants it. She just doesn't want it. That's gonna be
devastating to hear it is I'm leaving.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Someone over sex, though, I mean after that.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I don't know. It's the grass that you always greener.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
On the other side, you can't have your kids like that,
that's true, But do you want a little single Like, yes,
you're gonna have a lot of sex, but you're gonna
be you could not be in a relationship for the
longest time.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You can be lonely for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I got a whole list of things you can say
to people on dating apps to if you need it,
like you're so out ah w anyway, let me take
some phone calls, Darcy, have the radio one.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I wish you the best. This is tough, this is complicated.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know the right because because Ruvio is right,
I mean, do you want to live a sexless celibate
life with your best friend. No, but if you lose
this guy who's this you know, this paramount relationship in
your life so that you can go out and have
a bunch of you know, average of disappointing physical connections, then.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Then I don't know, is that better? Not sure?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It probably feels like it now, but it may not
be in the long run. Thank you, Darcy, good luck.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I got an Amazon look for you girl. Yeah, okay
for a little Z. So you're suggesting kikiS some.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
And then yeah, she might just need to spice it up,
get herself some some some some adult toys maybe that
she can try out. I mean, I feel like she
has not tried everything yet. She's just like I don't
want it, but like, try some things first before you
leave your husband. In best friend, I feel so bad
for him all these years, Like I feel so bad
for the husband, like he's I feel like he's done
(22:08):
nothing wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Now she doesn't want this either, though, I mean, you
know you can't fight those.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
But it's not like he's not like it's not like
he's bad in bed or he's not.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
He doesn't want you. He wants to have sex with
his wife. Yeah, but she does.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Want to have sort of outgrown him in some ways.
And I feel like there's always more in these situations.
There's always more going on. There's something else here that
we probably don't I don't know, but I've also never
been with somebody for twenty two years, so I don't
know what it's. I mean, honestly, I don't know that
I would even have any sort of basis for comparison
to be the same person for that period of time. Hey, Christina,
(22:41):
good morning. Hey what do you think stay or go?
So just to recap here, this woman's been with this man,
married for like seventeen years, together for twenty two or something,
and she just doesn't want to sleep with him anymore,
loves him, considers him her best friend, doesn't really have
the desire to be with him anymore. She still has
those desires, just not with him. He wants to be
(23:01):
with her, and she's not sure what to do. What
do you think?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
I just think that sex is something that you know,
every human being needs in their life, So to hold
it back from somebody, I think is worse. So I
think that she should go, but you know, she should
go in a way where she talks to him about it.
I mean, they are best friends, they do have a connection, and.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And what he can give it you broke up for
just a second or what.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Sorry, Like who's who's to say they're not going to
be remain best friends? He could talk to him about it,
but I really feel like she needs to go or
give him the option to have an open marriage. Yeah,
because he just can't take that away from somebody. It's
like he's being punished.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But it's just that's just not that simple, Like it's
not that simple to say, because like there's someone like me,
for example, I that would never work for me. Like
if you came to me and said, I love you,
but I don't want to be with you anymore. How
about I sleep with other men and stay with you,
I'd be devastated. That's the end. And you know, so,
I mean it's not just that symbols just let's just
say by other folks in like, I don't know, I
think I would either be in or out on that one.
(24:07):
I don't know that I could just be with someone
who's like, I love you, but I really don't want
you to like get anywhere near me sexually, Like that
would have been but other men can I don't know. Christina,
thank you have a good day.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Glad you called. And that battle that's just me. I mean,
I trust me. Go on.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Speaking of dating apps, going on these dating apps, ethical ethic,
this is I'm using air quotes ethical non monogamy all
over the place, all over the place. People And yeah,
I'm in a relationship, but I want and it's and
it's all out there, but I want to sleep with
other people too. It's very common and if it works
for you, that's great.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I just I don't know, right, And do we always
have it all every single part of a relationship all
the time, for the entirety, you know what I mean? Like,
is it always you have every part of it? Noel,
I feel like that's an unfair expectation.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Hey Dawn, good morning, welcome, good morning. So how are
you okay? What do you think? Great? Thanks for asking?
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I think she should stay? And I feel like when
she's saying she just keeps her kiating like best friend,
best friend, I love them and stuff like that. It
just sounds like things are routine and comfortable and I'm
presuming and I may have missed this at the very beginning.
Speaker 10 (25:17):
I'm presuming that they were pretty sparky at the beginning
of the relationship.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
That's why they.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
Got into relationship and got married and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
And I think, and it sounds really cliche, but it
just sounds like.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
The spark is the spark is missing.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
I'm not gonna say it's gone, but it's missing.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
And maybe maybe they if they talk, maybe he has
to do a little digging and figure out, you know what,
what's something new that or something that used to work,
you know, what's something new that I can do that
they really knocked her off her heels, you know, and
rest her up.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't see, but I don't think it would matter.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It doesn't This dude could come in, you know, wrapped
in latex and you know, all oiled up, But I
don't know that it would matter. I doesn't sound like
she would care. It's a bad spot to be in
where there's nothing you can do. All the blue cheo
in the world is not going to solve this problem.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
But maybe maybe they're just because it's so roteat and comfortable,
maybe not thinking outside of the box like that. Maybe,
like he said, maybe maybe better go find a toy
or something or I don't know, maybe can be a
late texting, or maybe maybe it's just a nice long
day like in a lazy river somewhere in a picnic
and just.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I mean, you know what I mean if.
Speaker 10 (26:26):
If you're like I don't, I don't know their lifestyle,
so maybe they're just constantly on til it with kids
and work and whatever and really stressed out until if
they just have a really lazy, calm day and can
just I don't know, throw out different things.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I hear you figure something out. Thank you.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
That's a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, thank you, thank you, John, appreciate you have a
great day. It's going to be a painful conversation. So
before she torpedoes the whole damn thing, she may as
well get a sex therapist and a wall or somebody
you know, and have that conversation. You may as well
go for it. Well lay it all out there, because
it's gonna go one or two ways. Either he's gonna
I don't know, I guess you could go a number
(27:07):
of ways. He's going to be super hurt and offended
and there's no coming back. He's going to say, well,
what if we try a bunch of stuff and then
she'll go, well, I may as well, or they're going
to break up. I guess he's gonna go I feel
the same way. Maybe I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's the French show. Good morning. So we came on
the phone yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We had Ian and Nina on, and if you remember,
Ian met Nina on the dating apps. They went on
a date and and Ian did admit that his father
showed up to get carry out at the restaurant they
happened to be at, and and Nina was kind enough
to sort of say, oh, hey, nice to meet you. You
want to have a drink with us? Like why he
was waiting for his food, like kind of incorporate him
(27:44):
into the date, you know what I mean? I mean,
what are you supposed to do? Like, yeah, blow off
the dad. He's kind of a weird chance event that
would happen. But anyway, so we hadn't Neena Ian on
and they're back, Good morning guys, runnang. And so what
we wanted to know is because Ian says it's not possible.
(28:05):
All well, I should tell you the second part in
case you didn't hear it. When we did talk to
Meena yesterday, she said that dominic Ian's dad was flirtatious
with her, touched her leg, was flirting with her.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, he was in the bathroom, well.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
While Ian was away. And Ian his response, Your response,
Ian that't want to make sure I'm getting all this right.
And Nina too was that there's no way he could
have done this because he's married to your mom and
he would.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Never That's what I'm saying, Okay, And Nina, you still
contend that he absolutely did.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yes, I mean absolutely, Like there's a difference between being
friendly and putting your hand on someone's sigh and calling
them beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I would agree, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And so we said yesterday, well let's see if we
can get the dad on the phone. His name is
dominic Let's see what happens with that. And so you
texted your dad and we got him. And so, ladies
and gentlemen, I'd like you to meet dominic Ian's dad. Morning,
dominic Good good morning, Fred? Oh it was it? Good
morning Fred? What is it like like a radio? Did
you have a did you do radio or summer stock
(29:09):
or like community theater or like what?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Good morning everybody?
Speaker 11 (29:13):
Well, if you think I should, we can talk about that,
but no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But okay, so you heard the explanation here. Ian and
Nina went out. I guess you ran into Ian and
Nina at the restaurant. Nina says you flirted with her
and it made her uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I think this is being blown out of all proportion.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
I think to say I was hitting on her, that's
that's an exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You were not hitting on Nina then, and you're you're
a married man, you're married to Ian's mom. You're saying
that Nina made the whole thing up. You did not
touch her leg. I touched I touched her leg.
Speaker 11 (29:49):
Look, any any man would be helpless around a woman
that beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
You know, it's just hard.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You're married, dude. You don't get to be helpless right
other women. You're married. You're married, and plus that's your
that's your son's date.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I didn't think there was anything to it. It was
just like I said, it's harmless flirting. You know, it
just happens all the time. It's not not a big game.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
I didn't think it would turn into a whole situation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, so Ian, he's he's not denying it. He flirted
with your date. Because he was helpless beautiful. She's very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, how did you keep your hands off of her?
You know, like, how could you?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I think?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
First off, I want to say sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
To Nina and you know Dad, I, uh, this is
so weird, man, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's not cool, man, Oh my god, say sorry to
all of us. This is weird.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
First of all, thank you Ian for apologizing to Nina.
That was a nice thing to do, because it turned
out that Nina, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Nina, I said, yeah, thank you, Like that was very nice.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I mean, we all believed her. We all knew that
she wasn't crazy. The only person here who didn't really
believe her, Ian was you. So you apologized, Uh, well,
my dad, I don't think he's doing it. Well, how
does it make you feel about your dad? Because yeah,
I mean he's married to your mom. Friends friendly. I mean,
there's but don't we know at a certain point in
(31:15):
our lives, the difference between lecherous and friendly, like creepy
and being nice, cordial and being.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Like if he was helpless though fried by her beauty?
I mean, I mean, come on, that's.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
I tell John his man was a creep putting your
hand on somebody else's leg, Like come on.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Now, yeah, yeah, it's not appropriate. So it's not like
I was massaging her knee. I mean maybe I'm from
a different time, but it was just a very casual
you know. Yeah, that's that's called assault. Yeah, you're not
supposed to do that either unless somebody wants you to.
So well, here's my question though, Nina, like does this
change anything, because you know, it sounds like Ian's kind
(31:57):
of shocked. He didn't realize his dad was of this
or would do it or did do it, and and
and he kind of is admitting that he did. So
I don't know, do you want nothing to do with
Ian because his dad's weird? Or do you do you
now look at Ian differently because he's he's figuring out
that his is weird.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I mean, like again, like Ian's great, but like just
to imagine, like I don't know, at Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Or nothing, you've seen this movie before? You don't you
don't want any part of it?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
He accidentally walks in, are you changing, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I've seen I've seen this one. Yeah so no, so no,
no second date, I because we'll pay for it if
you want to give Ian another chance, and we'll ask
the father, we'll get a restraining order, a protective order
against him so he can't come.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
I'm so sorry to Ian, like but no, all.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right, Ian, I'm sorry, man, I don't know how you know,
how you deal with this and your dad need to
have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's that's that's yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
My mom I had to be in that conversation too.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I think she needs to be and a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Well, I mean maybe Thanksgiving dinner, a couple of glasses
of wine and everybody will see things a little bit differently.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, Like I said, you know, my day, this was
not a big deal. You know, I was just trying
to be nice. I think you know it's a harmless
it was a harmless interaction.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh I see back in your day. Yeah, yeah, okay,
So this is a generational thing, that is what you're saying,
dominic like, because when you were younger, you can just
touch anybody's girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's okay, But now it's weird you can't do that.
Speaker 11 (33:28):
I don't even if we know if we call that
touching just gently putting your hand on a young lady's leg.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I mean, is that you honestly that made me feel uncomfortable,
Like right now, my skin is crawling hearing you talk.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
So we're gonna be we're gonna be done now. But
maybe it is, maybe it is a generational thing.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't think I think it's a I think I
think we everyone knows what it is. But Ian, I'm
sorry that you find out this way.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Nina.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Thank you for your patience and for your time, and
I'm sorry it didn't work out. Good luck to all
of you.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay,
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