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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Vinny,
good morning, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
How are you hey, I'm doing okay, I'm doing okay.
How are yourself doing great?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And we're here to help with this situation. What's going
on with this woman, Zara? Why don't you explain? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How you mad about any dates you've been on? And
then what's happening right now?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm just I'm just confusing. I'm no spring Chicken. I've
been I've been dating. I'm still a young guy, but
I've been dating for a bit, so I get it.
I get the culture. I met her on the apps,
you know, as one does classic boy meets girl, and it.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Was becoming classic Yeah, honestly yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And you know, like I said, listen, I understand ghosting.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But we went on three dates, okay, three full dates.
So I feel like after three dates.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
You can't you can't just you can't just go completely
ghost on someone. You have to have an explanation. It's
just completely uncourteous.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I agree with this theory.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
By the way, I think after a date, maybe maybe
two dates, I think you can kind of just part ways.
But I would say you know, when you get to
the third fourth date area is when maybe we have
a conversation, you know, maybe we say goodbye, maybe we
say hey, it's not for me, you know that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. You get it, you get it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So I just I don't know how she can just
completely ignore all my texts on my calls. And I'm
not trying to hunt her too much, but I want answers.
I think I'm entitled to an explanation.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, so this one has disappeared. So let's see if
we can get Zara on the phone. You'll be on
the phone as well. We're gonna ask some questions and
maybe we can straighten this south. That's always the hope.
And if so, we'll pay for in this case, a
fourth date. So stay right there, Vinie will do it next.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Sounds good.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's see what happens next Part two.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Avoiding by the phone after this song on the Fred Show, Hey, Vinnie, Hey,
all right, let's call Zara. You guys, I met on
one of the apps. You went on three dates. This
is not a one date situation. And then the ghostinger two.
This is three You went out three times, so you
would imagine, or you would think that everything was going well,
except now you can't get a hold of Zara and
(02:01):
you want to know why exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, you'd think you'd think things are going well.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So all right, well let's call her now, see if
we can figure this out. Good luck. Hello, Hi is
his Zara? Yeah, it is Hi's our good morning. My
name is Fred.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Sod okay if we
chat for just a minute on the show.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, Well, thank you so much. We appreciate that we're
calling on behalf of a guy named Vinnie. I guess
you guys met on the apps and you went on
he says, three dates. So I assume you remember this
guy Vinnie.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Okay, So what happened with him?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Because he called us and told us that he liked
you a lot and was excited about where things were going.
I mean, three dates, that's usually a pretty good sign.
He says, though, that since the third date, you haven't
responded to him. He can't get a hold of you.
He feels like he's being ghosted. Is that what's happening?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The first two dates were great, and I really liked
him and I was excited and I thought, oh, maybe
this could be something real. And then on the third date,
we decided to go back to his place to you know,
like hook up, and I asked him if he had
any protection and he said, oh, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I thought you had an IUD.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That doesn't what doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And I said to him, like that doesn't matter, like
I still need you to be wearing protection to keep
both of us safe. And then he got really defensive
and weird and he was like, oh, so you're hooking
up with other people?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And I said, okay, this is gross.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, No, I mean, it wouldn't matter if you were
or you weren't. That has nothing to do with it. Actually,
I would say the primary concern is like, where have
we been before? Right? You know, It's like that whether
or not you're hooking up with other people, that would
that that would be a secondary sort of concern to
what's happening between us right right this second.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
H And I guess also, then what obligation.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Do you have to him not to hook about other
people because you aren't together?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Right, We're not we're we're in a couple. We're not
a couple. We've never been a couple. And it just
it was like such a red flag of what do you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
There's a layers of issues here.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
We've got the assumption, we've got the defensiveness, we've got
then this sort of I guess, the control kind of thing,
and all without communication.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, well, let me creeps sorry, let me let me
ask Vinny about this, because I Vinnie is here and
I feel to mention that, and I sometimes get carried
away and forgett Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Why, I mean, why why? There's a few issues here.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
First of all, I was just called creepy and obnoxious.
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I'm not thrilled about that, you know on the radio, But.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
In fairness, you don't.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You don't really get to like say that you're offended
by something on the radio because we're here because you
asked us to do this, so like pursuit at your
own risk. Honestly, with all due respect, with.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
All due respect, I never insulted her, and with all respect,
I am confused by all of your confusion. I mean,
I just, I just I don't really understand. I thought
it was a pretty innocuous question. Well, we talked already.
You know, the fact that she had an IUD came up.
You know, we came up in an earlier convery. We
were kind of prepping for this this special more intimates
their date, right, and so it already.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Come up in conversation. I thought we already had that
conversation about protection. And I'm still I'm confused. I don't
understand what you're saying. If you're not hooking up with
other people, and do you use that birth control? I
just don't understand the issue.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I thought that we had already kind of covered those basism.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Sorry, did you tell this?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Did you tell this man about your you know, sort
of birth control method, and then did you then tell
him that he wouldn't have to worry about anything on
his end?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Is that what took place?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
No, I did tell him about my IUD, but I
didn't tell him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh, but it's fine to just not use protection.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
To be clear, that would that would put hopefully probably
prevent a pregnancy, but it wouldn't prevent other things from
potentially happening.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That you know that you're not covered.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It is not like you know, it's not a you're
not wrapped in latex when you when you have one
of those installed.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You already have protection though, So like why would you
from pregnant?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Like what are we? Like are we doing high school?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Am I a pe teacher trying to teach you about sex?
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Vinnie?
Speaker 8 (06:25):
Do you do you know how this works? Yeah, listen,
I'm all about safe sex. But like it's like, you know,
you don't use two condoms, Like that's the best. You
don't use two things that's going to counteract.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
What are you pregnancy?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding about what
what how this all works, which is all the more
reason why protection might be in order.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
But that's why that's why I asked if she was
looking up with other people, so that you know that
was I was trying to be respectful.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So then because you know, if she's not, then it's
not a problem.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't think that's an unfair question in itself, but
when combined with you're doing this so I don't have
to do that. Also, that means and also it's a
little premature. I mean again, to have any to have
an adult conversation about these kind of things before you
engage in that kind of activity is fair. But I
think it's and Zara, I don't mean to put words
(07:18):
in your mouth, you tell me. I think it's kind
of the way that it all went down. That's the problem.
It's the assumptions and then the oh wait, what do
you mean when none of that's been outlined.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, since said I mean, just's I first
of all, it's like, we're not a couple.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We've never been a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And to assume that.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
I'm hooking up with number of people with other people
number one and then number two, basic safe sex, like no,
you need to wear protection as well, because I am
covered on the pregnancy part and the end. You know,
hopefully most of the time the iod work, and I
do that for myself, but I think for both of
us it's important to have protection.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That part two. You have a look on you. You're puzzled,
you're befuddled.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I mean, just I'm shocked that he's out here been
like this, Like, have you ever been to the clinic?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Has it ever burned?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
When you to. Yeah, there does seem to be a
bit of a misunderstanding about what what all is going
on here? Uh it's not like an I U. D.
Is not like a like a laser that just kills
everything in its pack. But it's not awesome. But wouldn't
it be?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah? Yeah, pat, Why do they call it protect?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
They call it protection for a reason.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Okay, you can't be serious.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
This is bad.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You got to give him the birds and.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
A beast, right we do? We need to send this
man to uh some form of sex end class. I
guess all right, Zara, Look, I'll ask, but any interest
in the in a fourth date? I mean it kind
of appears that you just blew it, Vinnie. Honestly, things
were going fine, you were inches away.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I guess what. I just I'm still so confused.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I really, I can tell go to the clinic.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You whole tune up.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, they got YouTube videos about this and you on
YouTube not that.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't put any other sites. Uh, I'm sorry, are you
you're done? I just we're not.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No no second date?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Nope, okay, all right, no fourth date? Nothing right anyway? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, Zara, thank you for your time. Good luck, Vinny,
best of luck to you as well.
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Vinny,
good morning, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
How are you hey, I'm doing okay, I'm doing okay.
How are yourself doing great?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And we're here to help with this situation. What's going
on with this woman, Zara? Why don't you explain? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How you mad about any dates you've been on? And
then what's happening right now?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm just I'm just confusing. I'm no spring Chicken. I've
been I've been dating. I'm still a young guy, but
I've been dating for a bit, so I get it.
I get the culture. I met her on the apps,
you know, as one does classic boy meets girl, and it.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Was becoming classic Yeah, honestly yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And you know, like I said, listen, I understand ghosting.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But we went on three dates, okay, three full dates.
So I feel like after three dates.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
You can't you can't just you can't just go completely
ghost on someone. You have to have an explanation. It's
just completely uncourteous.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I agree with this theory.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
By the way, I think after a date, maybe maybe
two dates, I think you can kind of just part ways.
But I would say you know, when you get to
the third fourth date area is when maybe we have
a conversation, you know, maybe we say goodbye, maybe we
say hey, it's not for me, you know that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. You get it, you get it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So I just I don't know how she can just
completely ignore all my texts on my calls. And I'm
not trying to hunt her too much, but I want answers.
I think I'm entitled to an explanation.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, so this one has disappeared. So let's see if
we can get Zara on the phone. You'll be on
the phone as well. We're gonna ask some questions and
maybe we can straighten this south. That's always the hope.
And if so, we'll pay for in this case, a
fourth date. So stay right there, Vinie will do it next.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Sounds good.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's see what happens next Part two.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Avoiding by the phone after this song on the Fred Show, Hey, Vinnie, Hey,
all right, let's call Zara. You guys, I met on
one of the apps. You went on three dates. This
is not a one date situation. And then the ghostinger two.
This is three You went out three times, so you
would imagine, or you would think that everything was going well,
except now you can't get a hold of Zara and
(02:01):
you want to know why exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, you'd think you'd think things are going well.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So all right, well let's call her now, see if
we can figure this out. Good luck. Hello, Hi is
his Zara? Yeah, it is Hi's our good morning. My
name is Fred.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Sod okay if we
chat for just a minute on the show.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, Well, thank you so much. We appreciate that we're
calling on behalf of a guy named Vinnie. I guess
you guys met on the apps and you went on
he says, three dates. So I assume you remember this
guy Vinnie.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Okay, So what happened with him?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Because he called us and told us that he liked
you a lot and was excited about where things were going.
I mean, three dates, that's usually a pretty good sign.
He says, though, that since the third date, you haven't
responded to him. He can't get a hold of you.
He feels like he's being ghosted. Is that what's happening?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The first two dates were great, and I really liked
him and I was excited and I thought, oh, maybe
this could be something real. And then on the third date,
we decided to go back to his place to you know,
like hook up, and I asked him if he had
any protection and he said, oh, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I thought you had an IUD.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That doesn't what doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And I said to him, like that doesn't matter, like
I still need you to be wearing protection to keep
both of us safe. And then he got really defensive
and weird and he was like, oh, so you're hooking
up with other people?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And I said, okay, this is gross.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, No, I mean, it wouldn't matter if you were
or you weren't. That has nothing to do with it. Actually,
I would say the primary concern is like, where have
we been before? Right? You know, It's like that whether
or not you're hooking up with other people, that would
that that would be a secondary sort of concern to
what's happening between us right right this second.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
H And I guess also, then what obligation.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Do you have to him not to hook about other
people because you aren't together?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Right, We're not we're we're in a couple. We're not
a couple. We've never been a couple. And it just
it was like such a red flag of what do you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
There's a layers of issues here.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
We've got the assumption, we've got the defensiveness, we've got
then this sort of I guess, the control kind of thing,
and all without communication.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, well, let me creeps sorry, let me let me
ask Vinny about this, because I Vinnie is here and
I feel to mention that, and I sometimes get carried
away and forgett Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Why, I mean, why why? There's a few issues here.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
First of all, I was just called creepy and obnoxious.
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I'm not thrilled about that, you know on the radio, But.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
In fairness, you don't.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You don't really get to like say that you're offended
by something on the radio because we're here because you
asked us to do this, so like pursuit at your
own risk. Honestly, with all due respect, with.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
All due respect, I never insulted her, and with all respect,
I am confused by all of your confusion. I mean,
I just, I just I don't really understand. I thought
it was a pretty innocuous question. Well, we talked already.
You know, the fact that she had an IUD came up.
You know, we came up in an earlier convery. We
were kind of prepping for this this special more intimates
their date, right, and so it already.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Come up in conversation. I thought we already had that
conversation about protection. And I'm still I'm confused. I don't
understand what you're saying. If you're not hooking up with
other people, and do you use that birth control? I
just don't understand the issue.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I thought that we had already kind of covered those basism.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Sorry, did you tell this?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Did you tell this man about your you know, sort
of birth control method, and then did you then tell
him that he wouldn't have to worry about anything on
his end?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Is that what took place?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
No, I did tell him about my IUD, but I
didn't tell him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh, but it's fine to just not use protection.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
To be clear, that would that would put hopefully probably
prevent a pregnancy, but it wouldn't prevent other things from
potentially happening.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That you know that you're not covered.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It is not like you know, it's not a you're
not wrapped in latex when you when you have one
of those installed.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You already have protection though, So like why would you
from pregnant?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Like what are we? Like are we doing high school?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Am I a pe teacher trying to teach you about sex?
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Vinnie?
Speaker 8 (06:25):
Do you do you know how this works? Yeah, listen,
I'm all about safe sex. But like it's like, you know,
you don't use two condoms, Like that's the best. You
don't use two things that's going to counteract.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
What are you pregnancy?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding about what
what how this all works, which is all the more
reason why protection might be in order.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
But that's why that's why I asked if she was
looking up with other people, so that you know that
was I was trying to be respectful.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So then because you know, if she's not, then it's
not a problem.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't think that's an unfair question in itself, but
when combined with you're doing this so I don't have
to do that. Also, that means and also it's a
little premature. I mean again, to have any to have
an adult conversation about these kind of things before you
engage in that kind of activity is fair. But I
think it's and Zara, I don't mean to put words
(07:18):
in your mouth, you tell me. I think it's kind
of the way that it all went down. That's the problem.
It's the assumptions and then the oh wait, what do
you mean when none of that's been outlined.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, since said I mean, just's I first
of all, it's like, we're not a couple.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We've never been a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And to assume that.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
I'm hooking up with number of people with other people
number one and then number two, basic safe sex, like no,
you need to wear protection as well, because I am
covered on the pregnancy part and the end. You know,
hopefully most of the time the iod work, and I
do that for myself, but I think for both of
us it's important to have protection.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That part two. You have a look on you. You're puzzled,
you're befuddled.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I mean, just I'm shocked that he's out here been
like this, Like, have you ever been to the clinic?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Has it ever burned?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
When you to. Yeah, there does seem to be a
bit of a misunderstanding about what what all is going
on here? Uh it's not like an I U. D.
Is not like a like a laser that just kills
everything in its pack. But it's not awesome. But wouldn't
it be?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah? Yeah, pat, Why do they call it protect?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
They call it protection for a reason.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Okay, you can't be serious.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
This is bad.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You got to give him the birds and.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
A beast, right we do? We need to send this
man to uh some form of sex end class. I
guess all right, Zara, Look, I'll ask, but any interest
in the in a fourth date? I mean it kind
of appears that you just blew it, Vinnie. Honestly, things
were going fine, you were inches away.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I guess what. I just I'm still so confused.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I really, I can tell go to the clinic.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You whole tune up.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, they got YouTube videos about this and you on
YouTube not that.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't put any other sites. Uh, I'm sorry, are you
you're done? I just we're not.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No no second date?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Nope, okay, all right, no fourth date? Nothing right anyway? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, Zara, thank you for your time. Good luck, Vinny,
best of luck to you as well.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.