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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Christian,
good morning, Welcome to the show. Hi, good morning, how
are you very well? We call this waiting by the phone,
of course, trying to figure out if you got ghosted?
What happened? Why don't you explain how you met Ellen
and about any dates that you've been on and what's
happening right now?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, of course. So I actually met Ellen on Bumble,
you know the dating app and.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Familiar with the Bumble. Yeah, it's been okay, cool time
or two? Yeah, okay, yeah, so you met her there?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So so I met her on there. I asked her
out to grab drinks at one of the like this
speakeasy nearby my place, and I love that it's got
like a good atmosphere. But they have these wild cocktails
and you end up having too and you end up
getting pretty loaded. So we were defrunk by the end
of the night, and we walked back over to my
place and you know, get intiment do what's do an
(00:56):
adults to? I don't know that's how exploit that I
can be with you? But I think feel free to
use your imagination.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Feel pretty over all? Right, Yeah, I think everybody knows
what you're talking about, so that that happened exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, So I just want to get that out better.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Rights and she, you know, she starts close to me.
I thought we had a good night, you know, and
now stuck wondering if she only hooked up with me
because she was drunk, and I would really hate for
that to be the case.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Be Could I actually liked her? I had a good time,
but her conversation was easy flow, and she's very attractive,
and you know, I kind of felt this this romantic connection,
a bit of chemistry, and you know, if it wasn't
she didn't feel the same way, wasn't reciprocated. It's fine,
I just you know, I want I don't I want
to know. I just don't want to get going.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean, sometimes male female whatever. Maybe I don't know
if it matters the gender. Sometimes when people drink too
much and then things happened, it's like, well, did I
is this how I wanted things to start? Did I
give off the right impression? Some people have anxiety where
they're you know, they're hungover, and like, ah, I can't
believe I did that. I know that's happened to me.
(01:58):
So it's possible that she just kind of maybe it
was fun but not necessarily the way she wanted to
start the relationship. But I suppose that's a conversation you
could have unless you wanted to just disappear, which is
maybe what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You're exactly right, I want to have that conversation. I
think at least let me know. You know, I'm man
enough to take that kind of rejection, but it's unusual
for me to not even get to follow up and
be like, hey, do you want to try this again?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? Yeah, or you could look at it as wow,
we really hit it off. The chemistry was great, Like,
why don't we keep going in this direction? So let
me call Ellen. You'll be on the phone. I want
to see if we can get her on the line
and ask some questions to figure out what's going on.
At some point, you're welcome to jump in on the
call and hopefully we can straighten this out and set
you guys up on another date that we pay for.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, So right, this is the part where I get
to be like, and I don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right right right, because you've obviously heard this before, so
just follow my lead on this and let's see what happens. Yeah,
I'm going to play one song. We'll come back and
do it. Okay, cool, let's see what happens next Part
two of waiting metaphone or right after Hoji, You're back
in four minutes. Fred Show is on. Don't Move Fred Show.
You can listen in on the radio. Of course, you
can listen live and anytime on the iHeart app search
(03:03):
for the Fred Show on demand. Hey, Christian, all right,
let's call Ellen. You guys met on Bumble, you went out,
you thought there was a lot of chemistry, had a
great date. I wanted poking up. Except you've reached out
since that date, trying to set up date number two,
and she's not responding to you at all, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We had a good time. We had a good time,
and I'm looking forward to a day two.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You just at least you want to know, you know,
why she's not calling or if something happened whatever, So
let's call her now. Good luck, Christian Hiasus Ellen, Yeah, Ellen, Hey,
(03:46):
good morning Fred from the Fred Show. The whole crew
is here. I have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would you, I
would thank you Woh my god. I don't know if
that's a compliment. I don't know if that was an
oh my guide like all of the show. And notice
I just say thank you right away, like that's what
that meant, not just that she was I do love
the show, genuinely surprised. Okay, well then you know the
rest of the deal. So you're on waiting by the
(04:08):
phone right now. A guy him Christian, reached out to
us so that you guys met on bumble and went out.
Do you remember this guy? Yeah? You do? Okay, so
he called us, and if you listen to the show before,
then you know why he called. He wants to know
why you aren't calling him back. He described to us
what he thought was a very successful date. He did
mention that you guys got intimate, and it's like, why
(04:29):
did all that happen if you weren't interested? So what's
your side of the story.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well, I would bet that he didn't actually tell you
the whole story.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
For drinks, never do.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, we went out for drinks and then we like
how to sleep over?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And I don't know whatever, Like I would have hooked
up with him even if we hadn't had drinks just.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Because, like I don't know, maybe because he was worried
about that. He was like, well maybe it was maybe
this whole the thing is because everybody had too much
to drink and now people are regretting things. But you're
saying that's not the reason you're not calling him.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, well, I mean, like I would have hooked up
with him either way, but because of the drinking, Uh,
we weren't like as space as kay. I probably should
have been Okay, we'll leave it at that, okay, yep.
And then in the morning he asked me if I
was on birth control and I was like no, So
(05:27):
we were like, okay, you know, we decided together we
should go get a plan B and I like, need
to go buy it, and he just keeps like blowing
out my phone, demanding that I send him a video
of me opening the package and putting the tilt in
my mouth and swallowing it to make sure you get it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yes, I wasn't convinced it exactly. That you going to
buy it meant that you were going to utilize the product,
So he needed proof that you were going to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Oh, and he needed like the date somewhere shown in
the video like.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
A newspaper, hold of a newspaper something.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I don't know what that's about, but it was just
completely insulting. He didn't trust me, and he thinks that
she's so great that I would like want to have
his dating. What is wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So you know, the Christians here, Christian what's your side
of the story. I mean, it wasn't for you guys,
just to make that decision and to let you know,
let her say what she said she was going to do,
or do what she said she was going to do.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, no, no, no, I just kind of what I
wanted to cut you off because you're really like putting
all of all of my business out there. Okay, So
just like oh and you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
When you called a radio station true, yeah, I mean
what did you think? What? I mean, you knew you
had the story. You're on the radio now. Of course
she's gonna put your business. But I didn't think that this.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I didn't think that she would go on and we
were talking about the night before, not the morning after.
I didn't think anything. That's not just asking you for
a little bit date a lot. No, it's after the date, Ellen,
And I just wanted to know if like you wanted
to go out again. But here you are accusing me
of like some sort of like phone harassment, Like I
(07:07):
just I don't know. I just I wanted to call
you to see if you want to go out again,
and the whole thing that happened like after the day again,
after the date.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, well that's great, I guess. Okay, so you guys
don't know each other and this all goes down, and
I mean, you haven't developed any form of trust. You
don't probably even know each other's last names or middle
names or whatever. And that's okay. Things happened, but it
wasn't good enough Christian for you and Ellen to just
decide that you were going to take this path to
(07:35):
be extra safe after the fact, it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I also was like, hell, yeah, we need to get
something done about this.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, but great, I also need to protect myself.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So I'm just asking for a receipt.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Listen, Ellen.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All I'm saying is that I think my request is
well within my rights. I've told you that my family
has a lot of money and I have to go
to like extra lane to protect myself in our last name,
and I just what I don't want you like Oh,
I don't want to be taken advantage of.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
How does that come up on the day I'm extremely rich.
I mean, once you do that, I can see why
you're paranoid now because you're telling everybody how rich you are.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm not telling everybody. I'm not trying to procreate with
a douche like you.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
AMD. Was it your mom or dad that told you
the text? You know, to make sure that you took
the bill? Did you call Dad? And I think I
made a mistake? Pause? What do I do? This is
really hard?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
No, I didn't call I can call my parent. I
don't have like a PR team on call, so I
do have an attorney on retainer if I needed to
go that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So you're a idio. I mean, grant, you both made
this decision, but you're out here willing billy, knowing that,
feeling as though you could be exposed at any time.
But you're not taking any precaution.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Not that night, no, which is why I'm trying to
do the next morning. Again, not part of the date.
We're past the date. We're into the next phase of
whatever this was going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You wanted a video of it happening. You want to
a receipt of the purchase of the product. And okay,
and so for you, Ellen, that's too much in a word,
Yet because of that and because of a lack of trust,
and you just thought the whole thing was not cool.
So you're never going to talk to him again. I mean,
the video was a little much. But I guess I
can see I mean, can you guys see the paranoia
(09:19):
maybe that there was no follow up. I mean it's
kind of the decision that you make when you were
a grown up and you put yourself in that position
that like you relinquished a little bit of power by
not being thoughtful.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, he made that decision, though I don't think he
can demand that. Yeah, I don't know about the video
and the rest of it. I think you got to
just you're doing too much. You know, you made the
mistake and you're gonna have to just trust.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But so did she if you want to call it
in the control, Yeah, she said she agreed with together
that she was going to go get the plan B.
So that's enough for me, Like, I mean, Devil's advocate,
you know, there's no basis for him to believe what
she's saying. So I mean, I'm not saying I agree
with him.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think he really wants to be one hundred percent
sure that he doesn't have a baby, then he shouldn't
do that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
So it's not on him anymore, like it's not in
his control.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay. So basically, she didn't like the approach, thought it
was insensitive, thought it was uncool and Christian. There you go.
That's why she's not calling and there's not going to
be a second date.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, obviously I can't. I didn't think I was being
intensitive at all, just just to trying to.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'll get some basses and trust going.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I don't know that the video she could have she
could have taken anything. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's her lost. Okay, Well there you go, Ellen, it's
your lost. You hear that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, guys, thank you for your time. Best to look
to both of you. The Entertainment Report Week, Caylet it's
up next. We'll do trending stories headlines to start to Tuesday.
The Fun Fact on the Way, It's the frend show
back in two minutes.
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Christian,
good morning, Welcome to the show. Hi, good morning, how
are you very well? We call this waiting by the phone,
of course, trying to figure out if you got ghosted?
What happened? Why don't you explain how you met Ellen
and about any dates that you've been on and what's
happening right now?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, of course. So I actually met Ellen on Bumble,
you know the dating app and.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Familiar with the Bumble. Yeah, it's been okay, cool time
or two? Yeah, okay, yeah, so you met her there?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So so I met her on there. I asked her
out to grab drinks at one of the like this
speakeasy nearby my place, and I love that it's got
like a good atmosphere. But they have these wild cocktails
and you end up having too and you end up
getting pretty loaded. So we were defrunk by the end
of the night, and we walked back over to my
place and you know, get intiment do what's do an
(00:56):
adults to? I don't know that's how exploit that I
can be with you? But I think feel free to
use your imagination.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Feel pretty over all? Right, Yeah, I think everybody knows
what you're talking about, so that that happened exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, So I just want to get that out better.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Rights and she, you know, she starts close to me.
I thought we had a good night, you know, and
now stuck wondering if she only hooked up with me
because she was drunk, and I would really hate for
that to be the case.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Be Could I actually liked her? I had a good time,
but her conversation was easy flow, and she's very attractive,
and you know, I kind of felt this this romantic connection,
a bit of chemistry, and you know, if it wasn't
she didn't feel the same way, wasn't reciprocated. It's fine,
I just you know, I want I don't I want
to know. I just don't want to get going.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean, sometimes male female whatever. Maybe I don't know
if it matters the gender. Sometimes when people drink too
much and then things happened, it's like, well, did I
is this how I wanted things to start? Did I
give off the right impression? Some people have anxiety where
they're you know, they're hungover, and like, ah, I can't
believe I did that. I know that's happened to me.
(01:58):
So it's possible that she just kind of maybe it
was fun but not necessarily the way she wanted to
start the relationship. But I suppose that's a conversation you
could have unless you wanted to just disappear, which is
maybe what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You're exactly right, I want to have that conversation. I
think at least let me know. You know, I'm man
enough to take that kind of rejection, but it's unusual
for me to not even get to follow up and
be like, hey, do you want to try this again?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? Yeah, or you could look at it as wow,
we really hit it off. The chemistry was great, Like,
why don't we keep going in this direction? So let
me call Ellen. You'll be on the phone. I want
to see if we can get her on the line
and ask some questions to figure out what's going on.
At some point, you're welcome to jump in on the
call and hopefully we can straighten this out and set
you guys up on another date that we pay for.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, So right, this is the part where I get
to be like, and I don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right right right, because you've obviously heard this before, so
just follow my lead on this and let's see what happens. Yeah,
I'm going to play one song. We'll come back and
do it. Okay, cool, let's see what happens next Part
two of waiting metaphone or right after Hoji, You're back
in four minutes. Fred Show is on. Don't Move Fred Show.
You can listen in on the radio. Of course, you
can listen live and anytime on the iHeart app search
(03:03):
for the Fred Show on demand. Hey, Christian, all right,
let's call Ellen. You guys met on Bumble, you went out,
you thought there was a lot of chemistry, had a
great date. I wanted poking up. Except you've reached out
since that date, trying to set up date number two,
and she's not responding to you at all, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We had a good time. We had a good time,
and I'm looking forward to a day two.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You just at least you want to know, you know,
why she's not calling or if something happened whatever, So
let's call her now. Good luck, Christian Hiasus Ellen, Yeah, Ellen, Hey,
(03:46):
good morning Fred from the Fred Show. The whole crew
is here. I have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would you, I
would thank you Woh my god. I don't know if
that's a compliment. I don't know if that was an
oh my guide like all of the show. And notice
I just say thank you right away, like that's what
that meant, not just that she was I do love
the show, genuinely surprised. Okay, well then you know the
rest of the deal. So you're on waiting by the
(04:08):
phone right now. A guy him Christian, reached out to
us so that you guys met on bumble and went out.
Do you remember this guy? Yeah? You do? Okay, so
he called us, and if you listen to the show before,
then you know why he called. He wants to know
why you aren't calling him back. He described to us
what he thought was a very successful date. He did
mention that you guys got intimate, and it's like, why
(04:29):
did all that happen if you weren't interested? So what's
your side of the story.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well, I would bet that he didn't actually tell you
the whole story.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
For drinks, never do.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, we went out for drinks and then we like
how to sleep over?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And I don't know whatever, Like I would have hooked
up with him even if we hadn't had drinks just.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Because, like I don't know, maybe because he was worried
about that. He was like, well maybe it was maybe
this whole the thing is because everybody had too much
to drink and now people are regretting things. But you're
saying that's not the reason you're not calling him.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, well, I mean, like I would have hooked up
with him either way, but because of the drinking, Uh,
we weren't like as space as kay. I probably should
have been Okay, we'll leave it at that, okay, yep.
And then in the morning he asked me if I
was on birth control and I was like no, So
(05:27):
we were like, okay, you know, we decided together we
should go get a plan B and I like, need
to go buy it, and he just keeps like blowing
out my phone, demanding that I send him a video
of me opening the package and putting the tilt in
my mouth and swallowing it to make sure you get it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yes, I wasn't convinced it exactly. That you going to
buy it meant that you were going to utilize the product,
So he needed proof that you were going to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Oh, and he needed like the date somewhere shown in
the video like.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
A newspaper, hold of a newspaper something.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I don't know what that's about, but it was just
completely insulting. He didn't trust me, and he thinks that
she's so great that I would like want to have
his dating. What is wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So you know, the Christians here, Christian what's your side
of the story. I mean, it wasn't for you guys,
just to make that decision and to let you know,
let her say what she said she was going to do,
or do what she said she was going to do.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, no, no, no, I just kind of what I
wanted to cut you off because you're really like putting
all of all of my business out there. Okay, So
just like oh and you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
When you called a radio station true, yeah, I mean
what did you think? What? I mean, you knew you
had the story. You're on the radio now. Of course
she's gonna put your business. But I didn't think that this.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I didn't think that she would go on and we
were talking about the night before, not the morning after.
I didn't think anything. That's not just asking you for
a little bit date a lot. No, it's after the date, Ellen,
And I just wanted to know if like you wanted
to go out again. But here you are accusing me
of like some sort of like phone harassment, Like I
(07:07):
just I don't know. I just I wanted to call
you to see if you want to go out again,
and the whole thing that happened like after the day again,
after the date.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, well that's great, I guess. Okay, so you guys
don't know each other and this all goes down, and
I mean, you haven't developed any form of trust. You
don't probably even know each other's last names or middle
names or whatever. And that's okay. Things happened, but it
wasn't good enough Christian for you and Ellen to just
decide that you were going to take this path to
(07:35):
be extra safe after the fact, it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I also was like, hell, yeah, we need to get
something done about this.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, but great, I also need to protect myself.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So I'm just asking for a receipt.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Listen, Ellen.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All I'm saying is that I think my request is
well within my rights. I've told you that my family
has a lot of money and I have to go
to like extra lane to protect myself in our last name,
and I just what I don't want you like Oh,
I don't want to be taken advantage of.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
How does that come up on the day I'm extremely rich.
I mean, once you do that, I can see why
you're paranoid now because you're telling everybody how rich you are.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm not telling everybody. I'm not trying to procreate with
a douche like you.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
AMD. Was it your mom or dad that told you
the text? You know, to make sure that you took
the bill? Did you call Dad? And I think I
made a mistake? Pause? What do I do? This is
really hard?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
No, I didn't call I can call my parent. I
don't have like a PR team on call, so I
do have an attorney on retainer if I needed to
go that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So you're a idio. I mean, grant, you both made
this decision, but you're out here willing billy, knowing that,
feeling as though you could be exposed at any time.
But you're not taking any precaution.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Not that night, no, which is why I'm trying to
do the next morning. Again, not part of the date.
We're past the date. We're into the next phase of
whatever this was going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You wanted a video of it happening. You want to
a receipt of the purchase of the product. And okay,
and so for you, Ellen, that's too much in a word,
Yet because of that and because of a lack of trust,
and you just thought the whole thing was not cool.
So you're never going to talk to him again. I mean,
the video was a little much. But I guess I
can see I mean, can you guys see the paranoia
(09:19):
maybe that there was no follow up. I mean it's
kind of the decision that you make when you were
a grown up and you put yourself in that position
that like you relinquished a little bit of power by
not being thoughtful.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, he made that decision, though I don't think he
can demand that. Yeah, I don't know about the video
and the rest of it. I think you got to
just you're doing too much. You know, you made the
mistake and you're gonna have to just trust.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But so did she if you want to call it
in the control, Yeah, she said she agreed with together
that she was going to go get the plan B.
So that's enough for me, Like, I mean, Devil's advocate,
you know, there's no basis for him to believe what
she's saying. So I mean, I'm not saying I agree
with him.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think he really wants to be one hundred percent
sure that he doesn't have a baby, then he shouldn't
do that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
So it's not on him anymore, like it's not in
his control.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay. So basically, she didn't like the approach, thought it
was insensitive, thought it was uncool and Christian. There you go.
That's why she's not calling and there's not going to
be a second date.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, obviously I can't. I didn't think I was being
intensitive at all, just just to trying to.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'll get some basses and trust going.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I don't know that the video she could have she
could have taken anything. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's her lost. Okay, Well there you go, Ellen, it's
your lost. You hear that.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, guys, thank you for your time. Best to look
to both of you. The Entertainment Report Week, Caylet it's
up next. We'll do trending stories headlines to start to Tuesday.
The Fun Fact on the Way, It's the frend show
back in two minutes.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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