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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One O three five Kiss FM, Chicago's number one hit
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music stations, The Thread Show. This is what's trending, all right.
So I'm not blaming this on Spirit, but I mean
it only seems to happen to Spirit this kind of thing.
A Spirit Airlines flane was flying from Fort Lauderdale to
Haiti was diverted after it was hit by gunfire whoa
while attempting to land Imported Prince. The plane was struck
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by gunfire four times while tempting to land in the
capital city of Haiti. The Spirit Airlines plane diverted and
landed safely in Santiago, Dominican Republic. No passengers reported injuries,
and one flight attendant on board the plane reported unspecified
minor injuries and was undergoing medical evaluation. The plane came
within five hundred and fifty feet of the runway before
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aborting its landing and diverting to the Dominican Republic. Jet
Blue had a similar thing from Haiti to New York
City was also hit by a bullet.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The US Embassene Haiti has issued a security alert saying
that it was aware of the gang led efforts to
block trend ravel to and from border prints, which may
include armed violence and disruptions to roads, sports and airports.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, it's giving civil unrest more than like the plane's fault.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I thought the Spirit thing, I know, the rat or something.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It was somebody with these rats. Enough no more. They
never found the rat on the other one. They just
gave up. They're like, it's not here anymore. I guess, no, no,
it was. No. No, it's very scary though.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
That is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
But this stuff only seems to have in a Spirit
I'm not having a jet Blue too. But it's like
you know some other airlines.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
They wheels falling off, you know, yours falling off.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
People boo booing in the seat.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What are they doing?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
They Okay, here it is is just going through a
rough time like the rest of these airlines.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, the wheels falling over it. I guess it's true.
I guess. So it's just like I know people that
work I actually, like actually know people who work for Spirit,
and they're like, I don't I don't know, I.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Don't know here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's just like I just to fly the plane. It
seems to work fine. I don't know what's going on
the Government's highway safety agency is investigating complaints that engines
can fail on as many as one point four million
Honda and Accurate vehicles. So if you have one that
was made between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, then you
might want to look into that. You could lead to
some form of complete engine failure vehicles with the three
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point five liter V six Yeah, something about ball bearing,
rod bearings and I don't know, get mechanic mic on
the phone. I don't know what the hell over. I
probably should know what a rod bearing is, but I don't. Anyway,
it's not good on the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty
Honda's and Accuras, So you might want to look into that.
Reliable cars too, if you've got one to be busy
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taking on work no payment. I'm going to Taylor, Swift
and Vancouver this weekend or whatever is Toronto this weekend?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
No Vancouver, Yeah, No, Tronto is first.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Taylor, a cruise line company, is offering a four year
package for customers to skip forward to avoid the Donald
Trump presidency as a whole. Villa VI Residences announced it's
Skip Forward program forty thousand dollars a year you live
on the boat, so residents have the flexibility to join
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their customized journey at any port during a continuous global
adventure for up to four years. You could also purchase
the entire four year package at once, either one hundred
and fifty nine thousand dollars per person for a room
for two or two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars
for single occupancy. So you're either sharing, I guess, or
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just you. But I guess you can just come and
go as you please, as boat just moves all around
the country. But you could live on it if you
wanted to. You live on a cruise ship and go
all around the world. I'm here for that. I would
do that. It's like semester and see for grown ups,
did any of you go on You didn't do some
semester scene? Oh it was like you go to like
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twenty countries in a semester, college semester. I don't know
how many countries it is. Let me see. I know
someone who did it, like study abroad, but except you're
on a boat and semester.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Me neither. For too long, I've.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Always wanted to go on a cruise, but just won't go.
So I'm with her too. Dizzy semester to see, look
at this thing. One hundred days, ten countries, and you
can get as many as twelve to fifteen academic credits
from Colorado State University along the way. And I guess
they go to different places depending on the time of year.
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But yeah, ten to twelve countries and one hundred days
and you're on this boat.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That would have been cool.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sounds like debauchery, honestly, I mean imagine, imagine, you know,
I remember many hundreds of college kids on a boat
and you're going to like, you know, my order or
whoever you're going.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
From, you to Triangle. Yeah, I've always wanted to go there.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, Yeah, I guess maybe you might go. Like I
would love for you to point that out on a map,
Jason Bart.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
It's somewhere in the ocean, somewhere in the other world.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, but what a deal. Two hundred and sixty thousand
dollars just for you for four years now, I guess,
like if you could come and go and like your
room just stays there and you get to eat and everything.
Forty thousand dollars, what is that? That's more than forty
thousand dollars a year, though, don't like seniors do that.
Like I've heard of that they sell their house and
they live on a boat. You live on the cruise ship. Yeah,
you could do it. I guess enough. More of the
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escape research monkeys have been recaptured. We told you about
that last week. Over a dozen monkeys is still on
the loose, though after escaping from a research facility. Forty
three monkeys originally escape thirty have been recaptured. The animals
are reportedly in good health. They've been using food to
lure them into traps. All of the escapees are females
and have been interacting with their mates despite being on
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the outside. How does that work? What are they usually
calling them escapees or females have been interacting with their
mates despite being on I don't know what now they
are like they went outside and they were like, I
didn't find anything, and they came now, I guess I'll
stick with you. I guess. I don't know what that
means exactly. Wisconsint officials think that the missing kayaker, I
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guess this is a big story in Wisconsin, faked his
own death. So this dude went missing while kayaking and
a lake in Wisconsin on August twelfth, and weeks ago.
I guess weeks. It took them weeks to try and
find this guy. Cadaver dogs, a dive team, they found
no trace of him. Police did a fishing They did
find a fishing rod. They found a tackle box with
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his wallet, license and keys inside. However, the first break
in the case came when it was found that the
missing man's passport was used in Canada the day after
he disappeared. Authorities think that he got a new passport,
and then they searched his laptop they found evidence that
he was someplace in Europe. Detectives say that he'd also
been talking with a woman from Uzbeka, Stan right before
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he vanished. Kiki, who's he running from his wife? Oh?
To try and be with the lady in Uzbekistan? Definitely
not a lady in news Vekistan. Well, I mean, I
don't know. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine if
you blow up your whole life, you blow your entire life,
you fake your death, you you go, you know wherever
to Europe to meet this person you fell in love
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with online to find out you got catfished, and now
you got to call your wife and be like ah,
I was just playing. I was just playing to see.
Gong Girl's the same way, right, Yeah, she takes her
own death or she fakes her she faked Does she
fake her own I don't I don't remember that. It's
been a while since I've seen that movie.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
In Gong Girl, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
She fakes her own death and she but she doesn't
claim she went for love. She claims she was kidnapped, right, yes, yes,
and then later comes back and says, I escaped, but
it turns out none of it ever happened, and then
blamed Dugie Hauser. Well, Dookie's always up to it, you know,
he's always up to stuff. But no, this this guy
apparently was running for love. But I mean that's a
very loud scheme, Like how much do you dislike me?
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I mean you could just divorce me and moved to Zbekkistan, right,
But I mean instead we're faking, you know, our own
disappearance and stuff. There was a story like that about
a guy who he crashed his own airplane but jumped
out of it before, like he jumped out of his
plane but staged a crack, like he actually made the
airplane crash into a forest, but he jumped out of
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it before. I guess because he was trying to keep
his money and live another life for the authorities were
coming after him. I don't remember what it was. There
was a dayline about it, there was a bunch of stuff.
But I mean, talk about that's a whole different level.
I mean, you crashed a plane, You've risked your own
I don't know, you got to really want out of
your life. I guess to do something like that. But anyway,
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they better go to Uzbekistan find his gun. A New
Jersey homeowner was left with seven hundred dollars worth of
damage after masked pranksters from TikTok stormed his front door
as part of a new TikTok challenge that we don't
need to do. At least once a week, it's hey,
here's something else from TikTok that we do not need
to do. Teams across the country are kicking in the
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front doors of strangers' homes as hard as possible before
running off and then filming the prank for views. Oftentimes,
the teams cover their faces and strike at night. I'm
not I'm not wishing this on anybody. I'm not wishing
it around and find out right, you want to kick
it wrong. Don't try this in Texas. Don't try this
in Indiana. Don't try this. Honestly, if someone starts kicking
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on my door right, I don't know, like stuff might happen.
I might feel the need to defent myself in a
way that I don't realize. I'm you know, ha ha funny,
TikTok pranku. You know what I mean. I don't. I
don't like this idea especially well I never but not
right now. People are so just read the doorbell and
run away.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
What do you kick.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Anymore? Because now I got cameras on there, it takes
all the fun away.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I mean, you can't do anything. You can't tpe someone's
house anymore. We got cameras everywhere now, Like it's just
it's it's crazy. It's really a shame. The kids these
days are never going to know what that's like. That
frank is a serious misdemeanor and can lead to jail time.
Let's not And then, finally, in what's trending today, a
court has ruled that the man who broke off an
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engagement gets to keep his seventy thousand dollars ring. So
We've had this debate over the years on the show before.
If if you're engaged and it doesn't work out, who
keeps the ring? Now, before I tell you more about this,
I think I know how kick you would feel about this.
Absolutely doesn't matter whose fault it was the breakup though,
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Like let's say I propose to you and then you
decide either you don't want to marry me because you
well figured out that I'm crazy or what you already know,
or you weren't supposed to agree with that, or let's
say you you cheat, okay, but you got to seventy
thousand dollars income to me. You're like, hey, fred, I
cheated on you, but we can still get engaged or whatever.
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But I'm like, no, I don't want to be engaged
to you anymore. Give me a ring back, do you
do I get the ring back if you cheated?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
No, why nobody's getting the ring back from me? Okay?
Because the rings it signifies it and it represents all
the time I've invested in you already. But you cheated
on me, and if I cheat, it's because you made
me cheat, oh my god god, or it's all your
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fault anyway, again, out of here. Let me tell you
something about women. We don't wake up and just want
to cheat. Y'all push us to cheat. Okay, so if
you push me to.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Cheat, you of your damn life.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Ring.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Cheaters need to be accountable for cheating, Yes, they do,
so did dore you? Just that was a very unaccountable
sayment you just made about people. I'm being forced to
you know you're not.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I don't want to let me take you some when
I'm out cheating sometimes cheating, my friends are out cheating.
Sometimes in their mind they're thinking like, I don't want
to do this, but you're making me do that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
That is not what people are thinking. They're thinking, I'm
only thinking of myself. I only care about my needs
and I don't care if it devastates other people. That's
what cheaters are thinking about me here? How dare you know?
That's what narcissistic cheaters believe, is that somehow it's someone
else's fault that they're cheating. In fact, sometimes the fun
one is when they blame the person they're cheating with
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where they're cheating. That's a fun one. It's like, somehow
it's my fault that you're cheating. How explain to me
personal problem. No. No, If you've ever been involved in
one of these situations, you know that it starts to
get real twisted depending on who you're cheating with or
if you've been involved with something like that, it gets
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a little shady. Have you ever? Have you ever been
the other person?
Speaker 8 (12:41):
You like?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Have you ever been I have never cheated. I have
never cheated. I've never been in a relationship and I
cheated on that person. I have been an accessory. And
in every case, in every case, I was lied to.
In every single case, I was lied to.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Were you though, or were you just deciding to be blind?
Speaker 8 (13:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Have any of you?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I was like, you, have any of you guys been
the uh accessory? Well, Jason, we know you probably have
been your grinder days with a bunch of and I'm
doing air quotes straight man, the married Ye never done
this before?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Right?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Yeah, this is the first time.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, you're awfully it's sofughly natural for you.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Didn't even have to teach you. Must be he must
be a natural. No, But I mean, have any of
you been the accessory?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like somebody was cheating in that person?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, And it's always it's always some kind of twisted right,
Like it's always like there's always some story and explanation
as to why it's okay, that's happening. But okay, so
you're saying that, no matter what, you're keeping the ring.
Not surprised, Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Keeping the ring?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Klein who keeps don't cheat? I don't cheat.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
One's tough because I do think that the ring is
contingent upon the marriage. Like it's it's like a contract,
like you're offering this for us to be married.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You're wearing it when we're married.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So if we're not getting married, then what are you
going to do with the ring?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (14:17):
But I do believe that I deserve to keep the
ring no matter what. Well, I mean, I can't see
myself cheating ever, so I can't even really.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
What if you just decide you don't want to be
with him anymore, like you what if you come to
a mutual conclusion, What if you're like, hey, this is
I don't I don't know mutual.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
I'm keeping it if I decide I'll give it back
to him because I feel bad, Okay, all.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Right, Jason, I would give it back no matter what,
because like why would I want it? Like, why do
I want anything that's the remindments around you?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean, you could sell it and now you've got
seventy thousand dollars, which is not an insignificant amount of money,
but I don't know, it's kind of dirty money.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
It's tainted no matter what you do, right, it's forever tainted.
And if I'm actually going to like heal and like
move on from that, like, I don't want anything that's
going to remind me of that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I could certainly do that in santrope or something I
could certainly struck. Yeah, well, or the beimetera triangle. Yes,
the healing is really expedited by the seventy thousand dollars
vacation I took. But yes, Rufio, I know you're taking
the ring. Oh if I paid seventy thousand dollars void,
I'm not going to stop till I get it back. Okay,
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I'm going to get you steel I get it back.
He's going to TikTok him.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I would I would give it back if I cheat it,
I wouldn't cheat, Like, you're never going to catch me
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm never going to catch you.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I'm never going to catch me or I'm not
going to do it.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
If if like my partner cheated on me, then I
would absolutely I would keep it. I would cash it in.
I would make sure to like let him know that
I did that. I you know, tag him in photos
on Instagram while I'm in Bermuda.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Whatever I wouldn't I would. Oh, I would make them
so mad.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
So this woman had to give the ring back seventy
thousand dollars ring from her broken engagement. Uh the Massachusetts
Supreme Judicial Court. They decided that this woman has to
give back a piece of jewelry to a dude name Bruce.
Caroline has to give it back to Bruce. Ruling the
going forward a broken engagement means that the engagement ring
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must be returned to the buyer, no matter who's behind
the breakups. Now there's legal precedent for this. The woman
said in court that her life imploded after he called
off the wedding in twenty twenty one, but the judge
ruled that because he ended things initially, I guess that
she was entitled to keep the ring. Her ex says
that she verbally abused him and alleges that she wouldn't
go with him to medical appointments after he was diagnosed
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with prostate cancer. Oh my god, I so said, And
he discovered a message on her phone to a man
that he was unfamiliar with. He also alleges that he
found voicemails from the same man calling her cupcake. Oh no,
not cupcake, cake, not cupcake, but Bruce's vault.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh no, no, no, not.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Cupcake.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Okay, you don't cheating a man with cans there, Come
on now, okay, some decency.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
She claimed the guy was a friend, but anyway, then
the whole thing was overturned, and then they went to
another court to revisit it. There was this case in
nineteen fifty nine that was decided that the buyer of
an engagement ring could ask for it back only if
they were without fault in the breakup. An attorney for
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the dude said that the ring had been a conditional
gift that could be kept if an actual marriage took place,
and the High Court ruled, we retire the concept of
fault in this context. The engagement ring must be returned
to the donor regardless of fault. Oh wow, so there.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
That's dangerous. Would you ask for your ring back as
a if I got cheated on or if something the
fairy has happened. Yeah, I'd be like, give me the
ring bag. I bought that for you under the premise
that we're getting married.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wow. Right, so we don't get married, we're gonna you
don't need it.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
You just then rubbed me as a type of man
that would you know, ax for the ring back.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
If I were wrong. Okay, so lets say, Kiky, listen
to come in here. Let's say come in here. Thousand
knowledge prends is gonna be like, okay, why why are
you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I was just starting to Caroline, let's start coming here.
I'm like, oh my god, Kiki and I was engaged
and stuff, and if you everyone met her and knew her,
and I was gonna get married. And I'm like, oh
my god, you guys, Caroline cheated on me.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I'm a whoop, Caroline, get your ring back?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Right, see my damn the ring? Okay, and scene National
Friend Gift Day, Today's you don't see my that kind
of guy. And then it's I go get that. Don't
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get the ring back? But he has kids, No, you
don't get the ring back. A lot of conditions to
a lot of Peak's. Court's very confused, and I don't
know the entertainber. It's nice on the Fread show. The
Fread Show is on. It's stay or go night Lily,
It's here, high Lily, good morning.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
Welcome, Hi, thank you, good.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Morning, literally, welcome to the program. What's going on? Stairgo
group therapy here? Tell us everything? Sure?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah, So I have been married to my husband, Jacob
for two years now and we have the most beautiful,
precious eight year eight month old daughter. So my husband
is a police officer, so he unfortunately does have to
work on Thanksgiving, which thanks I hate that for him
and for all of us. And it's my daughter's first Thanksgiving,
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so that makes it even a little bit more, you know,
not so fun that he can't be there.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But it is what it is. I get it.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
And the other day, Jacob's mom sent me a text
and asked if she could take our daughter for a
couple hours on getting but she didn't say anything about me,
like she didn't invite me as well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, and he wants to pick up the baby and
she goes to do whatever, and I don't know, you're
supposed to just chill because your husband's at work and
now the baby's gone, okay, all right exactly.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
And I was just shocked by that. I feel like
I have a good relationship with her, you know, I
didn't think anything was you know, wrong, and so it
just kind of took me by surprise that that she
would ask for that. So I told my husband about it,
and he seems to think it's not a big deal,
and and he said he just like he doesn't want
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to get in the middle of it. And then he
said like, well, maybe I can just go to my
family's house since he's not going to be home anyways,
and that he just doesn't want to be around with,
you know, getting in between.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Me and his mom.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
And I'm really grouped by that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Are you sure, Lily, that the mom like that they're
going and having a full on Thanksgiving meal or Thanksgiving
you know, festivities or whatever, and that you're not being
included or is this more of a I'm gonna swing
by and take the baby because I'm off and I'm
you know, I don't know, is there a nice gesture
like is it, hey, I'm gonna swing by and give
you a couple hours on your own or whatever, because
it would be one thing, I guess if you're being
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excluded from an entire function and they're bringing your kid
and you don't get to go, it's another thing if
this person just has some extra time and wants to
hang out with your kid.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
I do know that they usually have a big, you know,
get together on things.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, so you're potentially not being invited then to Thanksgiving
dinner for some reason, and you're supposed to go hang
with your parents and your husband doesn't want to get involved.
I mean, couldn't I guess your husband could at least
ask the question like, hey, I'm not around today, why
can't we do something that includes Lily and the baby?
Because trust me, like I said as an uncle, Yeah,
and my mom now has two grandkids. My mom would
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love nothing more than to come by, take the kids,
and leave my sister's ass at home like she loves
my sister. But a hold on a second, though, Any
grandparents listening right now know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They want the grandkids. They don't always want their kid.
They've had thirty some years of that. They're good, They're
all set there. They want bonding time with the kid.
So I guess it would be important to differentiate between
is this bonding time with mom? Or is this you're
being excluded from a family function? Right? I mean, wouldn't
that be an important distinction.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
For sure? I mean, and also it is her first Thanksgiving?
So why would I not want to be with my
daughter thank you on first Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
But your husband won't even ask the question. It's almost
like he knows. It's almost like he knows she doesn't
like you or something. Have you guys ever had issues before?
I mean, have you ever been led to believe that
his mom wasn't a fan or his family wasn't a fan.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I definitely we've had situations where he's taken her side.
He has been, you know, a little bit of a
mama's boy. Unfortunately I hate to say that, but yeah,
we have had some situations where you know, he wants
me to be the bigger person, but it means you know,
she's kind of getting her way.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, so he knows something. Then he knows something and
he doesn't want to get involved because he knows it
to fight because if it were just something as simple
as let me treating this out let me, but she
i don't know that you shouldn't have to be alone
on Thanksgiving out and she's trying to take the kid
to lunch, and well you should go to or what?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But why does it have to be a fight? Like
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Like you're married to that woman, that is your wife,
your family, the mother of your child. Why not say
something to your mom? Not saying you got to box
it out with your mom, but you can say something
of is Lily invited you for your fight?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Why isn't she coming to like they're they're a package deal,
mom and baby go together.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
No, I'm saying we're saying the same thing. He should.
He should be asking that question. I think the reason
he's not is because he knows they don't like it,
they don't like her.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
He's got to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I agree, But it sounds like there's a much bigger
issue here because if it was just a communication thing,
that's one thing. But the fact he doesn't want to
get involved means that it's going to be some form
of battle between he and his mom that he doesn't
want that shouldn't be. But he's gotta say something.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Right, No, I mean, I agree, he absolutely does I'm sorry.
I'm tired of these mama's boys who want to like
not get involved. I don't want to ruffle feathers like no, like,
you're married, that's your family.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Dude, Like stop, hey, Lily, just do what Paulina does
and text her yourself and rad his ass out.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I'll help you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Girl, be like, hey, well she did did she takes it?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Hey? Your punkast son won't defend me. So here I am.
I got questions. Why can't I know, I don't don't
be combative, But have you have you considered asking a
question like hey, can I come to I mean, I
know that's like you don't want to have to do that,
you want to be invited, But have you And maybe
it's that simple. Maybe she'd be like, oh, yeah, I
thought maybe you you wanted a break or something, because
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having a newborn or at least a toddler at this
stage is a lot of work.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean I half thought about it. I do
just hate the fact that this is on me now.
I don't feel like this should be something I have
to do that I feel alone in. And I think
you're right, this is maybe a bigger issue with my husband.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I don't know, I kind of want to give the
mother in law the benefit of the doubt. What like,
I think you should just send a text Lily like hey,
I would love to come to or what's going on
over there? Because honestly, maybe the mother in law is
assuming that because her son has to work, that Lily
is already going to be with her family, and instead
of her being like, well, I want to rip you
and the baby away from your family to come spend
time with us, even though my son is not going
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to be there, maybe I'll just be polite and say, hey,
do you mind if we see the baby? Because I
know you're going to say family then say that she
did not like the baby, but that's not the same thing.
But I'm saying she can maybe just giving her the
benefit of the doubt. Maybe she's you had no history
of problems with her in the past. Why would she
just choose violence on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Because I remember people are texting like, hey, five hours
or several hours of silence seems kind of amazing, and
that's what that's what this woman's getting. Give me.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I want to say a holiday, right, a national holiday.
Speaker 11 (26:01):
Holiday right, not not a national holiday holidays because I'm
assuming Lily, you were going to split time between both
families anyway your family.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Husband was not working. Probably no, because.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's how that's I mean, that's the normal dynamic. If
there's families that both families are in town, you go
to two Thanksgivings, even if.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
You're at work. She's gonna she has to go to
your family's things.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Yeah, right, because because she wants a baby to see everybody,
both sides of the family.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
She didn't insinuate that. She didn't plan that. So maybe
the mother in law is like, well, you never said
you were coming to our things giving, so let me
take it in my hands and asks to see my
the mom.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
The mom has to be the one to invite Lily
and the daughter.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh lord, in laws just they just get a man.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
They can't do nothing, right.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know. I definitely think that you should be
able to have the dialogue with your mother in law. Yeah,
and above all, I think your son should be able
to answer these questions for you or get the answers
for you. It just sounds like there's more to this,
and and he doesn't want to get involved in because
if it were simple he's either lazy or he's conflict avoidant.
And it doesn't sound like he's lazy, so he's conflict avoidant.
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Why is there conflict? Well that I don't know, but
it sounds like he doesn't want to call her because
he knows she's going to say, I don't know, I
don't want to be with her, I don't like her,
you know why, or whatever. So I don't know. There's
there's a lot more going on here, but it's also
a holiday, so I feel like you bury that if
you want to see your grandkid, you make the relationship
with the kid's mom, right or dad or whomever is
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on the other side, because otherwise you could very easily
say no, I'm keeping my kid on thanks Maybe you
should do that. Maybe you should be like, you know what,
it's her first Thanksgiving, I'm alone. I'd like to keep
my daughter. And then she could say, oh my god, no, no, no,
why don't you come too, or if she says she's
like okay, well then I guess you're I mean, then
you know where you stand.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I agree, Hey, Lily, I'm going to take some phone
calls on this and have the radio on. Let's see
what people have to say. But I wish you the
best of luck with this. Thank you having good day
eight five to five, five nine, one one oh three five. Hey,
how you doing? Hey?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Fred, Caleb Rofeo, Jason Brown, Alena k Me and how
you doing?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, first of all, I'll be really quick to the
point one hundred percent. She needs to stay absolutely no,
do not go by any means this. This sounds like
a good relationship. However, I do agree with you, Fred,
one thousand percent. A conversation definitely needs to be had.
Just sounds like there's some like avoidance or some like
conflict issues. I myself know I'm avoiding myself, but there's
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there's no like red flags. Nothing jumps out immediately. This
is just, you know, a mature, deep conversation. And I
can see it from mom's point as well, if she
wants to truly like spend time with her granddaughter and
just wants to, you know, give the mom some sense
of relief, some time alone. However, if she you know,
unintentionally like left her out of the family gathering, then
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I think that's a bigger issue.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, thank you, Jake, have a good day.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Hey, come on with the Tangent.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I love it. Well we have, thanks we did. We
did a new episode up of the Tangent off Air
and Censor podcast I heeart at Hey Kelsey, good morning,
good morning.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You heard the whole story. Basically, this woman has a
a one year old and her mother in law wants
to take her on Thanksgiving and didn't really seem to
want to include her because husband's at work. He's a
first responder, So what do you do? And the husband
won't stand up for her, by the way, either, which
is more to this story.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
I was gonna say, no question about it. It's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Everybody knows it's a holiday.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So why would you even consider asking.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
For the granddaughter and.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Not invite them off?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah? I mean again, there's there's some being left out here.
There's there's a disconnect, can already exist because I don't
know that she should. I don't know why she's surprised
this is happening, you know what I mean? In the sun,
won't it involved? I don't, it doesn't. It doesn't make
sense to me that, oh, she should.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Just go with her family to the baby that's with
her baby.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's packaged deal, it's a it's a holiday. I'm going
where the kid's going? So am I coming? Or am
I not? I feel like that.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
And it's not like they're divorced.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Rather like if she wants to go to her.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Family and then go to his family's, right, why would she.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Be separated from her baby on a holiday?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Right? Hit me up on a random Tuesday? But like, hey,
I want to see my granddaughter, come get her on
a Tuesday. Right about the next day is a holiday too?
How about you doing that? I got why don't I
have to be separated from my kid? You have a
good day? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
And everybody keeps saying so that, like the baby won't
remember who cares? Like it's not about the baby remembering, Like.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's about the mother, Like about this when we just
Lily and when we just talk to.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Lily's going to remember as moms were going to remember
our first holiday with her babies.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I agree, Hey, Vivian, Hi, guys, can I.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Just I'm a huge fan of all of you guys,
Like I listen to you guys every morning, like you're
reason why I wake up by seven am.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh my god, we thank you so you don't wake
up at seven because you got to, like, you know,
go to your job or dayful employee.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
LAO for you guys, I'm thirteen.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
That's a great point. Roofie just made the show starts
at five actually, so I don't know where they know
you are. You know, that's sweet and everything, but that's here,
you know, leaving something on the table.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
But at seven am, I'm listening. At seven am, I'm
for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay, Well, then you can go back and listen to
the other two albums later. But you want to say, Vivian.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
So I'm kind of in the same situation, but except
my partner my kids that is also a police officer,
so he can't spend Thanksgiving with us sometimes. But even
though him and I aren't together, his mom is always
texting be like, hey, you don't have any plans, like, feel.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Free to like just stop.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
But even though her and her son, I mean her
son and I aren't together, like, she's always including me
because she knows I'm the mother of her grandchild, and
I just feel like whether they're like, since they are together,
the mother in law should be like, hey, if you
don't have any stop on by. If not, like but
like everybody else said, you can. You can pick up
maybe any.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Other day, right, I mean, Vivian, like it or not.
Like you're the gatekeeper of this child. So if your
ex's mom wants to ever see this kid, and she
needs to be nice to you, because you could very
easily make it very difficult.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Yeah, she's always super nice. I feel like if this
mother in law like loves her daughter, lest she be like, Hey,
if you don't have many times with your family, stop
on by. If you want to spend your first day
saving with your child, that's fine, just come on the
next day. I'm pretty sure when you got like the
next day though.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, so that's the right thing to do. She's got
the right attitude. Thank you, Vivian.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I just feel so bad.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
What but please because consider it.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
What if her intentions are good?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Though?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
What if what if she really was like, I know
my son is working. I don't want to be rude
and ask my daughter in law to leave her family
on Thanksgiving to come over here with us. Maybe you know,
maybe she doesn't feel comfortable without him, So let me
just say, hey, is it okay if I see the
baby for a couple.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Here's why I don't think it. Here's why I don't
think it's that, because she'd say all that, right, Like,
if like you could set this up in a way
that's not hurtful, you could say, if she really cared
about this girl in any way, or is she even
wanted the optics that she cared. It's the optics that matter.
You sell it, you know. Let's say you let's say
she strategically doesn't want her daughter in law there. Then
(33:21):
you call and you sell it like that, you go
over the top, you go, Hey, you know what, I'd
love to pick the kid up. I'm gonna take her
to lunch, and we're gonna do this stuff, and you
you should just take a nap and relax and have
a day and I'll bring her back a little bit
later on with a plate of food. It's gonna be great.
That's but she didn't even do that. She just said, Hey, lady,
I'm swinging by, I'm taking a kid. I don't know
(33:42):
what the hell, I don't care. What you're going to
do is imply God, I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I feel like we're making a lot of assumptions. And
sometimes you could look on the like look at the
glass half full, maybe this lady just really was trying
to because I feel like if she really had beef
with the daughter in law, I wouldn't even text my
daughter in law. I would have text my son, I'm
coming to get my grandbaby on Thanksgiving and set it
up with your.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
But you don't not invite someone because you feel bad
taking them away from their family. You say, hey, if
you have plans with your family, all good, but you
are welcome at our places.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
That you could have said that, but she did it.
I don't. That's automatically, that's my get the ring back.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, to make the assumption, of course, not who got cancer.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Someone got cancer. Tell a doctor everything you hear me.
The entertainment report is next to friendship.
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music stations, The Thread Show. This is what's trending, all right.
So I'm not blaming this on Spirit, but I mean
it only seems to happen to Spirit this kind of thing.
A Spirit Airlines flane was flying from Fort Lauderdale to
Haiti was diverted after it was hit by gunfire whoa
while attempting to land Imported Prince. The plane was struck
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by gunfire four times while tempting to land in the
capital city of Haiti. The Spirit Airlines plane diverted and
landed safely in Santiago, Dominican Republic. No passengers reported injuries,
and one flight attendant on board the plane reported unspecified
minor injuries and was undergoing medical evaluation. The plane came
within five hundred and fifty feet of the runway before
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aborting its landing and diverting to the Dominican Republic. Jet
Blue had a similar thing from Haiti to New York
City was also hit by a bullet.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The US Embassene Haiti has issued a security alert saying
that it was aware of the gang led efforts to
block trend ravel to and from border prints, which may
include armed violence and disruptions to roads, sports and airports.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, it's giving civil unrest more than like the plane's fault.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I thought the Spirit thing, I know, the rat or something.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It was somebody with these rats. Enough no more. They
never found the rat on the other one. They just
gave up. They're like, it's not here anymore. I guess, no, no,
it was. No. No, it's very scary though.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
That is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
But this stuff only seems to have in a Spirit
I'm not having a jet Blue too. But it's like
you know some other airlines.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
They wheels falling off, you know, yours falling off.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
People boo booing in the seat.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What are they doing?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
They Okay, here it is is just going through a
rough time like the rest of these airlines.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, the wheels falling over it. I guess it's true.
I guess. So it's just like I know people that
work I actually, like actually know people who work for Spirit,
and they're like, I don't I don't know, I.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Don't know here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's just like I just to fly the plane. It
seems to work fine. I don't know what's going on
the Government's highway safety agency is investigating complaints that engines
can fail on as many as one point four million
Honda and Accurate vehicles. So if you have one that
was made between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, then you
might want to look into that. You could lead to
some form of complete engine failure vehicles with the three
(02:24):
point five liter V six Yeah, something about ball bearing,
rod bearings and I don't know, get mechanic mic on
the phone. I don't know what the hell over. I
probably should know what a rod bearing is, but I don't. Anyway,
it's not good on the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty
Honda's and Accuras, So you might want to look into that.
Reliable cars too, if you've got one to be busy
(02:46):
taking on work no payment. I'm going to Taylor, Swift
and Vancouver this weekend or whatever is Toronto this weekend?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
No Vancouver, Yeah, No, Tronto is first.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Taylor, a cruise line company, is offering a four year
package for customers to skip forward to avoid the Donald
Trump presidency as a whole. Villa VI Residences announced it's
Skip Forward program forty thousand dollars a year you live
on the boat, so residents have the flexibility to join
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their customized journey at any port during a continuous global
adventure for up to four years. You could also purchase
the entire four year package at once, either one hundred
and fifty nine thousand dollars per person for a room
for two or two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars
for single occupancy. So you're either sharing, I guess, or
(03:42):
just you. But I guess you can just come and
go as you please, as boat just moves all around
the country. But you could live on it if you
wanted to. You live on a cruise ship and go
all around the world. I'm here for that. I would
do that. It's like semester and see for grown ups,
did any of you go on You didn't do some
semester scene? Oh it was like you go to like
(04:03):
twenty countries in a semester, college semester. I don't know
how many countries it is. Let me see. I know
someone who did it, like study abroad, but except you're
on a boat and semester.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Me neither. For too long, I've.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Always wanted to go on a cruise, but just won't go.
So I'm with her too. Dizzy semester to see, look
at this thing. One hundred days, ten countries, and you
can get as many as twelve to fifteen academic credits
from Colorado State University along the way. And I guess
they go to different places depending on the time of year.
(04:39):
But yeah, ten to twelve countries and one hundred days
and you're on this boat.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That would have been cool.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sounds like debauchery, honestly, I mean imagine, imagine, you know,
I remember many hundreds of college kids on a boat
and you're going to like, you know, my order or
whoever you're going.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
From, you to Triangle. Yeah, I've always wanted to go there.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, Yeah, I guess maybe you might go. Like I
would love for you to point that out on a map,
Jason Bart.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
It's somewhere in the ocean, somewhere in the other world.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, but what a deal. Two hundred and sixty thousand
dollars just for you for four years now, I guess,
like if you could come and go and like your
room just stays there and you get to eat and everything.
Forty thousand dollars, what is that? That's more than forty
thousand dollars a year, though, don't like seniors do that.
Like I've heard of that they sell their house and
they live on a boat. You live on the cruise ship. Yeah,
you could do it. I guess enough. More of the
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escape research monkeys have been recaptured. We told you about
that last week. Over a dozen monkeys is still on
the loose, though after escaping from a research facility. Forty
three monkeys originally escape thirty have been recaptured. The animals
are reportedly in good health. They've been using food to
lure them into traps. All of the escapees are females
and have been interacting with their mates despite being on
(05:53):
the outside. How does that work? What are they usually
calling them escapees or females have been interacting with their
mates despite being on I don't know what now they
are like they went outside and they were like, I
didn't find anything, and they came now, I guess I'll
stick with you. I guess. I don't know what that
means exactly. Wisconsint officials think that the missing kayaker, I
(06:13):
guess this is a big story in Wisconsin, faked his
own death. So this dude went missing while kayaking and
a lake in Wisconsin on August twelfth, and weeks ago.
I guess weeks. It took them weeks to try and
find this guy. Cadaver dogs, a dive team, they found
no trace of him. Police did a fishing They did
find a fishing rod. They found a tackle box with
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his wallet, license and keys inside. However, the first break
in the case came when it was found that the
missing man's passport was used in Canada the day after
he disappeared. Authorities think that he got a new passport,
and then they searched his laptop they found evidence that
he was someplace in Europe. Detectives say that he'd also
been talking with a woman from Uzbeka, Stan right before
(06:56):
he vanished. Kiki, who's he running from his wife? Oh?
To try and be with the lady in Uzbekistan? Definitely
not a lady in news Vekistan. Well, I mean, I
don't know. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine if
you blow up your whole life, you blow your entire life,
you fake your death, you you go, you know wherever
to Europe to meet this person you fell in love
(07:17):
with online to find out you got catfished, and now
you got to call your wife and be like ah,
I was just playing. I was just playing to see.
Gong Girl's the same way, right, Yeah, she takes her
own death or she fakes her she faked Does she
fake her own I don't I don't remember that. It's
been a while since I've seen that movie.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
In Gong Girl, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
She fakes her own death and she but she doesn't
claim she went for love. She claims she was kidnapped, right, yes, yes,
and then later comes back and says, I escaped, but
it turns out none of it ever happened, and then
blamed Dugie Hauser. Well, Dookie's always up to it, you know,
he's always up to stuff. But no, this this guy
apparently was running for love. But I mean that's a
very loud scheme, Like how much do you dislike me?
(08:03):
I mean you could just divorce me and moved to Zbekkistan, right,
But I mean instead we're faking, you know, our own
disappearance and stuff. There was a story like that about
a guy who he crashed his own airplane but jumped
out of it before, like he jumped out of his
plane but staged a crack, like he actually made the
airplane crash into a forest, but he jumped out of
(08:24):
it before. I guess because he was trying to keep
his money and live another life for the authorities were
coming after him. I don't remember what it was. There
was a dayline about it, there was a bunch of stuff.
But I mean, talk about that's a whole different level.
I mean, you crashed a plane, You've risked your own
I don't know, you got to really want out of
your life. I guess to do something like that. But anyway,
(08:44):
they better go to Uzbekistan find his gun. A New
Jersey homeowner was left with seven hundred dollars worth of
damage after masked pranksters from TikTok stormed his front door
as part of a new TikTok challenge that we don't
need to do. At least once a week, it's hey,
here's something else from TikTok that we do not need
to do. Teams across the country are kicking in the
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front doors of strangers' homes as hard as possible before
running off and then filming the prank for views. Oftentimes,
the teams cover their faces and strike at night. I'm
not I'm not wishing this on anybody. I'm not wishing
it around and find out right, you want to kick
it wrong. Don't try this in Texas. Don't try this
in Indiana. Don't try this. Honestly, if someone starts kicking
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on my door right, I don't know, like stuff might happen.
I might feel the need to defent myself in a
way that I don't realize. I'm you know, ha ha funny,
TikTok pranku. You know what I mean. I don't. I
don't like this idea especially well I never but not
right now. People are so just read the doorbell and
run away.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
What do you kick.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Anymore? Because now I got cameras on there, it takes
all the fun away.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I mean, you can't do anything. You can't tpe someone's
house anymore. We got cameras everywhere now, Like it's just
it's it's crazy. It's really a shame. The kids these
days are never going to know what that's like. That
frank is a serious misdemeanor and can lead to jail time.
Let's not And then, finally, in what's trending today, a
court has ruled that the man who broke off an
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engagement gets to keep his seventy thousand dollars ring. So
We've had this debate over the years on the show before.
If if you're engaged and it doesn't work out, who
keeps the ring? Now, before I tell you more about this,
I think I know how kick you would feel about this.
Absolutely doesn't matter whose fault it was the breakup though,
(10:35):
Like let's say I propose to you and then you
decide either you don't want to marry me because you
well figured out that I'm crazy or what you already know,
or you weren't supposed to agree with that, or let's
say you you cheat, okay, but you got to seventy
thousand dollars income to me. You're like, hey, fred, I
cheated on you, but we can still get engaged or whatever.
(10:57):
But I'm like, no, I don't want to be engaged
to you anymore. Give me a ring back, do you
do I get the ring back if you cheated?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
No, why nobody's getting the ring back from me? Okay?
Because the rings it signifies it and it represents all
the time I've invested in you already. But you cheated
on me, and if I cheat, it's because you made
me cheat, oh my god god, or it's all your
(11:23):
fault anyway, again, out of here. Let me tell you
something about women. We don't wake up and just want
to cheat. Y'all push us to cheat. Okay, so if
you push me to.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Cheat, you of your damn life.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Ring.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Cheaters need to be accountable for cheating, Yes, they do,
so did dore you? Just that was a very unaccountable
sayment you just made about people. I'm being forced to
you know you're not.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I don't want to let me take you some when
I'm out cheating sometimes cheating, my friends are out cheating.
Sometimes in their mind they're thinking like, I don't want
to do this, but you're making me do that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
That is not what people are thinking. They're thinking, I'm
only thinking of myself. I only care about my needs
and I don't care if it devastates other people. That's
what cheaters are thinking about me here? How dare you know?
That's what narcissistic cheaters believe, is that somehow it's someone
else's fault that they're cheating. In fact, sometimes the fun
one is when they blame the person they're cheating with
(12:17):
where they're cheating. That's a fun one. It's like, somehow
it's my fault that you're cheating. How explain to me
personal problem. No. No, If you've ever been involved in
one of these situations, you know that it starts to
get real twisted depending on who you're cheating with or
if you've been involved with something like that, it gets
(12:37):
a little shady. Have you ever? Have you ever been
the other person?
Speaker 8 (12:41):
You like?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Have you ever been I have never cheated. I have
never cheated. I've never been in a relationship and I
cheated on that person. I have been an accessory. And
in every case, in every case, I was lied to.
In every single case, I was lied to.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Were you though, or were you just deciding to be blind?
Speaker 8 (13:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Have any of you?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I was like, you, have any of you guys been
the uh accessory? Well, Jason, we know you probably have
been your grinder days with a bunch of and I'm
doing air quotes straight man, the married Ye never done
this before?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Right?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Yeah, this is the first time.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, you're awfully it's sofughly natural for you.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Didn't even have to teach you. Must be he must
be a natural. No, But I mean, have any of
you been the accessory?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like somebody was cheating in that person?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, And it's always it's always some kind of twisted right,
Like it's always like there's always some story and explanation
as to why it's okay, that's happening. But okay, so
you're saying that, no matter what, you're keeping the ring.
Not surprised, Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Keeping the ring?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Klein who keeps don't cheat? I don't cheat.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
One's tough because I do think that the ring is
contingent upon the marriage. Like it's it's like a contract,
like you're offering this for us to be married.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You're wearing it when we're married.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So if we're not getting married, then what are you
going to do with the ring?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (14:17):
But I do believe that I deserve to keep the
ring no matter what. Well, I mean, I can't see
myself cheating ever, so I can't even really.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
What if you just decide you don't want to be
with him anymore, like you what if you come to
a mutual conclusion, What if you're like, hey, this is
I don't I don't know mutual.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
I'm keeping it if I decide I'll give it back
to him because I feel bad, Okay, all.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Right, Jason, I would give it back no matter what,
because like why would I want it? Like, why do
I want anything that's the remindments around you?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean, you could sell it and now you've got
seventy thousand dollars, which is not an insignificant amount of money,
but I don't know, it's kind of dirty money.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
It's tainted no matter what you do, right, it's forever tainted.
And if I'm actually going to like heal and like
move on from that, like, I don't want anything that's
going to remind me of that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I could certainly do that in santrope or something I
could certainly struck. Yeah, well, or the beimetera triangle. Yes,
the healing is really expedited by the seventy thousand dollars
vacation I took. But yes, Rufio, I know you're taking
the ring. Oh if I paid seventy thousand dollars void,
I'm not going to stop till I get it back. Okay,
(15:20):
I'm going to get you steel I get it back.
He's going to TikTok him.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I would I would give it back if I cheat it,
I wouldn't cheat, Like, you're never going to catch me
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm never going to catch you.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I'm never going to catch me or I'm not
going to do it.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
If if like my partner cheated on me, then I
would absolutely I would keep it. I would cash it in.
I would make sure to like let him know that
I did that. I you know, tag him in photos
on Instagram while I'm in Bermuda.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Whatever I wouldn't I would. Oh, I would make them
so mad.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
So this woman had to give the ring back seventy
thousand dollars ring from her broken engagement. Uh the Massachusetts
Supreme Judicial Court. They decided that this woman has to
give back a piece of jewelry to a dude name Bruce.
Caroline has to give it back to Bruce. Ruling the
going forward a broken engagement means that the engagement ring
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must be returned to the buyer, no matter who's behind
the breakups. Now there's legal precedent for this. The woman
said in court that her life imploded after he called
off the wedding in twenty twenty one, but the judge
ruled that because he ended things initially, I guess that
she was entitled to keep the ring. Her ex says
that she verbally abused him and alleges that she wouldn't
go with him to medical appointments after he was diagnosed
(16:37):
with prostate cancer. Oh my god, I so said, And
he discovered a message on her phone to a man
that he was unfamiliar with. He also alleges that he
found voicemails from the same man calling her cupcake. Oh no,
not cupcake, cake, not cupcake, but Bruce's vault.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh no, no, no, not.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Cupcake.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Okay, you don't cheating a man with cans there, Come
on now, okay, some decency.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
She claimed the guy was a friend, but anyway, then
the whole thing was overturned, and then they went to
another court to revisit it. There was this case in
nineteen fifty nine that was decided that the buyer of
an engagement ring could ask for it back only if
they were without fault in the breakup. An attorney for
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the dude said that the ring had been a conditional
gift that could be kept if an actual marriage took place,
and the High Court ruled, we retire the concept of
fault in this context. The engagement ring must be returned
to the donor regardless of fault. Oh wow, so there.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
That's dangerous. Would you ask for your ring back as
a if I got cheated on or if something the
fairy has happened. Yeah, I'd be like, give me the
ring bag. I bought that for you under the premise
that we're getting married.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wow. Right, so we don't get married, we're gonna you
don't need it.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
You just then rubbed me as a type of man
that would you know, ax for the ring back.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
If I were wrong. Okay, so lets say, Kiky, listen
to come in here. Let's say come in here. Thousand
knowledge prends is gonna be like, okay, why why are
you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I was just starting to Caroline, let's start coming here.
I'm like, oh my god, Kiki and I was engaged
and stuff, and if you everyone met her and knew her,
and I was gonna get married. And I'm like, oh
my god, you guys, Caroline cheated on me.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I'm a whoop, Caroline, get your ring back?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Right, see my damn the ring? Okay, and scene National
Friend Gift Day, Today's you don't see my that kind
of guy. And then it's I go get that. Don't
(18:49):
get the ring back? But he has kids, No, you
don't get the ring back. A lot of conditions to
a lot of Peak's. Court's very confused, and I don't
know the entertainber. It's nice on the Fread show. The
Fread Show is on. It's stay or go night Lily,
It's here, high Lily, good morning.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
Welcome, Hi, thank you, good.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Morning, literally, welcome to the program. What's going on? Stairgo
group therapy here? Tell us everything? Sure?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah, So I have been married to my husband, Jacob
for two years now and we have the most beautiful,
precious eight year eight month old daughter. So my husband
is a police officer, so he unfortunately does have to
work on Thanksgiving, which thanks I hate that for him
and for all of us. And it's my daughter's first Thanksgiving,
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so that makes it even a little bit more, you know,
not so fun that he can't be there.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But it is what it is. I get it.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
And the other day, Jacob's mom sent me a text
and asked if she could take our daughter for a
couple hours on getting but she didn't say anything about me,
like she didn't invite me as well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, and he wants to pick up the baby and
she goes to do whatever, and I don't know, you're
supposed to just chill because your husband's at work and
now the baby's gone, okay, all right exactly.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
And I was just shocked by that. I feel like
I have a good relationship with her, you know, I
didn't think anything was you know, wrong, and so it
just kind of took me by surprise that that she
would ask for that. So I told my husband about it,
and he seems to think it's not a big deal,
and and he said he just like he doesn't want
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to get in the middle of it. And then he
said like, well, maybe I can just go to my
family's house since he's not going to be home anyways,
and that he just doesn't want to be around with,
you know, getting in between.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Me and his mom.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
And I'm really grouped by that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Are you sure, Lily, that the mom like that they're
going and having a full on Thanksgiving meal or Thanksgiving
you know, festivities or whatever, and that you're not being
included or is this more of a I'm gonna swing
by and take the baby because I'm off and I'm
you know, I don't know, is there a nice gesture
like is it, hey, I'm gonna swing by and give
you a couple hours on your own or whatever, because
it would be one thing, I guess if you're being
(21:24):
excluded from an entire function and they're bringing your kid
and you don't get to go, it's another thing if
this person just has some extra time and wants to
hang out with your kid.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
I do know that they usually have a big, you know,
get together on things.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, so you're potentially not being invited then to Thanksgiving
dinner for some reason, and you're supposed to go hang
with your parents and your husband doesn't want to get involved.
I mean, couldn't I guess your husband could at least
ask the question like, hey, I'm not around today, why
can't we do something that includes Lily and the baby?
Because trust me, like I said as an uncle, Yeah,
and my mom now has two grandkids. My mom would
(22:02):
love nothing more than to come by, take the kids,
and leave my sister's ass at home like she loves
my sister. But a hold on a second, though, Any
grandparents listening right now know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They want the grandkids. They don't always want their kid.
They've had thirty some years of that. They're good, They're
all set there. They want bonding time with the kid.
So I guess it would be important to differentiate between
is this bonding time with mom? Or is this you're
being excluded from a family function? Right? I mean, wouldn't
that be an important distinction.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
For sure? I mean, and also it is her first Thanksgiving?
So why would I not want to be with my
daughter thank you on first Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
But your husband won't even ask the question. It's almost
like he knows. It's almost like he knows she doesn't
like you or something. Have you guys ever had issues before?
I mean, have you ever been led to believe that
his mom wasn't a fan or his family wasn't a fan.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I definitely we've had situations where he's taken her side.
He has been, you know, a little bit of a
mama's boy. Unfortunately I hate to say that, but yeah,
we have had some situations where you know, he wants
me to be the bigger person, but it means you know,
she's kind of getting her way.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, so he knows something. Then he knows something and
he doesn't want to get involved because he knows it
to fight because if it were just something as simple
as let me treating this out let me, but she
i don't know that you shouldn't have to be alone
on Thanksgiving out and she's trying to take the kid
to lunch, and well you should go to or what?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But why does it have to be a fight? Like
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Like you're married to that woman, that is your wife,
your family, the mother of your child. Why not say
something to your mom? Not saying you got to box
it out with your mom, but you can say something
of is Lily invited you for your fight?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Why isn't she coming to like they're they're a package deal,
mom and baby go together.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
No, I'm saying we're saying the same thing. He should.
He should be asking that question. I think the reason
he's not is because he knows they don't like it,
they don't like her.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
He's got to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I agree, But it sounds like there's a much bigger
issue here because if it was just a communication thing,
that's one thing. But the fact he doesn't want to
get involved means that it's going to be some form
of battle between he and his mom that he doesn't
want that shouldn't be. But he's gotta say something.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Right, No, I mean, I agree, he absolutely does I'm sorry.
I'm tired of these mama's boys who want to like
not get involved. I don't want to ruffle feathers like no, like,
you're married, that's your family.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Dude, Like stop, hey, Lily, just do what Paulina does
and text her yourself and rad his ass out.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I'll help you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Girl, be like, hey, well she did did she takes it?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Hey? Your punkast son won't defend me. So here I am.
I got questions. Why can't I know, I don't don't
be combative, But have you have you considered asking a
question like hey, can I come to I mean, I
know that's like you don't want to have to do that,
you want to be invited, But have you And maybe
it's that simple. Maybe she'd be like, oh, yeah, I
thought maybe you you wanted a break or something, because
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having a newborn or at least a toddler at this
stage is a lot of work.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean I half thought about it. I do
just hate the fact that this is on me now.
I don't feel like this should be something I have
to do that I feel alone in. And I think
you're right, this is maybe a bigger issue with my husband.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I don't know, I kind of want to give the
mother in law the benefit of the doubt. What like,
I think you should just send a text Lily like hey,
I would love to come to or what's going on
over there? Because honestly, maybe the mother in law is
assuming that because her son has to work, that Lily
is already going to be with her family, and instead
of her being like, well, I want to rip you
and the baby away from your family to come spend
time with us, even though my son is not going
(25:32):
to be there, maybe I'll just be polite and say, hey,
do you mind if we see the baby? Because I
know you're going to say family then say that she
did not like the baby, but that's not the same thing.
But I'm saying she can maybe just giving her the
benefit of the doubt. Maybe she's you had no history
of problems with her in the past. Why would she
just choose violence on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Because I remember people are texting like, hey, five hours
or several hours of silence seems kind of amazing, and
that's what that's what this woman's getting. Give me.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I want to say a holiday, right, a national holiday.
Speaker 11 (26:01):
Holiday right, not not a national holiday holidays because I'm
assuming Lily, you were going to split time between both
families anyway your family.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Husband was not working. Probably no, because.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's how that's I mean, that's the normal dynamic. If
there's families that both families are in town, you go
to two Thanksgivings, even if.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
You're at work. She's gonna she has to go to
your family's things.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Yeah, right, because because she wants a baby to see everybody,
both sides of the family.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
She didn't insinuate that. She didn't plan that. So maybe
the mother in law is like, well, you never said
you were coming to our things giving, so let me
take it in my hands and asks to see my
the mom.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
The mom has to be the one to invite Lily
and the daughter.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh lord, in laws just they just get a man.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
They can't do nothing, right.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know. I definitely think that you should be
able to have the dialogue with your mother in law. Yeah,
and above all, I think your son should be able
to answer these questions for you or get the answers
for you. It just sounds like there's more to this,
and and he doesn't want to get involved in because
if it were simple he's either lazy or he's conflict avoidant.
And it doesn't sound like he's lazy, so he's conflict avoidant.
(27:08):
Why is there conflict? Well that I don't know, but
it sounds like he doesn't want to call her because
he knows she's going to say, I don't know, I
don't want to be with her, I don't like her,
you know why, or whatever. So I don't know. There's
there's a lot more going on here, but it's also
a holiday, so I feel like you bury that if
you want to see your grandkid, you make the relationship
with the kid's mom, right or dad or whomever is
(27:29):
on the other side, because otherwise you could very easily
say no, I'm keeping my kid on thanks Maybe you
should do that. Maybe you should be like, you know what,
it's her first Thanksgiving, I'm alone. I'd like to keep
my daughter. And then she could say, oh my god, no, no, no,
why don't you come too, or if she says she's
like okay, well then I guess you're I mean, then
you know where you stand.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I agree, Hey, Lily, I'm going to take some phone
calls on this and have the radio on. Let's see
what people have to say. But I wish you the
best of luck with this. Thank you having good day
eight five to five, five nine, one one oh three five. Hey,
how you doing? Hey?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Fred, Caleb Rofeo, Jason Brown, Alena k Me and how
you doing?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, first of all, I'll be really quick to the
point one hundred percent. She needs to stay absolutely no,
do not go by any means this. This sounds like
a good relationship. However, I do agree with you, Fred,
one thousand percent. A conversation definitely needs to be had.
Just sounds like there's some like avoidance or some like
conflict issues. I myself know I'm avoiding myself, but there's
(28:37):
there's no like red flags. Nothing jumps out immediately. This
is just, you know, a mature, deep conversation. And I
can see it from mom's point as well, if she
wants to truly like spend time with her granddaughter and
just wants to, you know, give the mom some sense
of relief, some time alone. However, if she you know,
unintentionally like left her out of the family gathering, then
(28:59):
I think that's a bigger issue.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, thank you, Jake, have a good day.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Hey, come on with the Tangent.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I love it. Well we have, thanks we did. We
did a new episode up of the Tangent off Air
and Censor podcast I heeart at Hey Kelsey, good morning,
good morning.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You heard the whole story. Basically, this woman has a
a one year old and her mother in law wants
to take her on Thanksgiving and didn't really seem to
want to include her because husband's at work. He's a
first responder, So what do you do? And the husband
won't stand up for her, by the way, either, which
is more to this story.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
I was gonna say, no question about it. It's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Everybody knows it's a holiday.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So why would you even consider asking.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
For the granddaughter and.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Not invite them off?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah? I mean again, there's there's some being left out here.
There's there's a disconnect, can already exist because I don't
know that she should. I don't know why she's surprised
this is happening, you know what I mean? In the sun,
won't it involved? I don't, it doesn't. It doesn't make
sense to me that, oh, she should.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Just go with her family to the baby that's with
her baby.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's packaged deal, it's a it's a holiday. I'm going
where the kid's going? So am I coming? Or am
I not? I feel like that.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
And it's not like they're divorced.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Rather like if she wants to go to her.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Family and then go to his family's, right, why would she.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Be separated from her baby on a holiday?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Right? Hit me up on a random Tuesday? But like, hey,
I want to see my granddaughter, come get her on
a Tuesday. Right about the next day is a holiday too?
How about you doing that? I got why don't I
have to be separated from my kid? You have a
good day? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
And everybody keeps saying so that, like the baby won't
remember who cares? Like it's not about the baby remembering, Like.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's about the mother, Like about this when we just
Lily and when we just talk to.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Lily's going to remember as moms were going to remember
our first holiday with her babies.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I agree, Hey, Vivian, Hi, guys, can I.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Just I'm a huge fan of all of you guys,
Like I listen to you guys every morning, like you're
reason why I wake up by seven am.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh my god, we thank you so you don't wake
up at seven because you got to, like, you know,
go to your job or dayful employee.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
LAO for you guys, I'm thirteen.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
That's a great point. Roofie just made the show starts
at five actually, so I don't know where they know
you are. You know, that's sweet and everything, but that's here,
you know, leaving something on the table.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
But at seven am, I'm listening. At seven am, I'm
for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay, Well, then you can go back and listen to
the other two albums later. But you want to say, Vivian.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
So I'm kind of in the same situation, but except
my partner my kids that is also a police officer,
so he can't spend Thanksgiving with us sometimes. But even
though him and I aren't together, his mom is always
texting be like, hey, you don't have any plans, like, feel.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Free to like just stop.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
But even though her and her son, I mean her
son and I aren't together, like, she's always including me
because she knows I'm the mother of her grandchild, and
I just feel like whether they're like, since they are together,
the mother in law should be like, hey, if you
don't have any stop on by. If not, like but
like everybody else said, you can. You can pick up
maybe any.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Other day, right, I mean, Vivian, like it or not.
Like you're the gatekeeper of this child. So if your
ex's mom wants to ever see this kid, and she
needs to be nice to you, because you could very
easily make it very difficult.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Yeah, she's always super nice. I feel like if this
mother in law like loves her daughter, lest she be like, Hey,
if you don't have many times with your family, stop
on by. If you want to spend your first day
saving with your child, that's fine, just come on the
next day. I'm pretty sure when you got like the
next day though.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, so that's the right thing to do. She's got
the right attitude. Thank you, Vivian.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I just feel so bad.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
What but please because consider it.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
What if her intentions are good?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Though?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
What if what if she really was like, I know
my son is working. I don't want to be rude
and ask my daughter in law to leave her family
on Thanksgiving to come over here with us. Maybe you know,
maybe she doesn't feel comfortable without him, So let me
just say, hey, is it okay if I see the
baby for a couple.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Here's why I don't think it. Here's why I don't
think it's that, because she'd say all that, right, Like,
if like you could set this up in a way
that's not hurtful, you could say, if she really cared
about this girl in any way, or is she even
wanted the optics that she cared. It's the optics that matter.
You sell it, you know. Let's say you let's say
she strategically doesn't want her daughter in law there. Then
(33:21):
you call and you sell it like that, you go
over the top, you go, Hey, you know what, I'd
love to pick the kid up. I'm gonna take her
to lunch, and we're gonna do this stuff, and you
you should just take a nap and relax and have
a day and I'll bring her back a little bit
later on with a plate of food. It's gonna be great.
That's but she didn't even do that. She just said, Hey, lady,
I'm swinging by, I'm taking a kid. I don't know
(33:42):
what the hell, I don't care. What you're going to
do is imply God, I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I feel like we're making a lot of assumptions. And
sometimes you could look on the like look at the
glass half full, maybe this lady just really was trying
to because I feel like if she really had beef
with the daughter in law, I wouldn't even text my
daughter in law. I would have text my son, I'm
coming to get my grandbaby on Thanksgiving and set it
up with your.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
But you don't not invite someone because you feel bad
taking them away from their family. You say, hey, if
you have plans with your family, all good, but you
are welcome at our places.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
That you could have said that, but she did it.
I don't. That's automatically, that's my get the ring back.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, to make the assumption, of course, not who got cancer.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Someone got cancer. Tell a doctor everything you hear me.
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