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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A fresh show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's Kiki's courting, all right, So all rights, the honorable
Kik a leek judge, Kiki take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
All right, let's step in the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit, it says Kiki. My name is Dana. My
husband had an affair ten years ago. We separated for
a few years, but eventually got back together. However, my
husband had a child with his mistress, and it's taken
a big toll on our family. Surprisingly, more than anything,
it's really messed up my relationship with my mother in
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law because she has been very intentional about maintaining a
relationship with my husband's break baby. Every holiday, she buys
gifts and invites my husband's other son over, and I've
expressed to her many times over the years how it
affects and confuses my kids. So I decided to set
some boundaries, and my kids are no longer allowed to
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visit their grandparents' home without me or my husband present. Well,
last week I noticed that my in laws took my
husband's break baby on a disney vacation and no one
reached out.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
To invite my kids.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I was heartbroken, and when I saw the photos, my
husband confronted his parents about the trip, and their excuse
is that they're tired of me trying to control when
they can see their grandkids.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But that is not my intention.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I just want respect for my marriage and my kids,
and I think my in laws are now trying to
purposely hurt my kids by not including them.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, wow, what say you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, Dana, honey, I love you, and there are a
few things wrong here, but it is not your in lass.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
If you took your cheating husband back and you know
that he created a child with another woman when you
took him back, you should.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Have accepted his child. Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So I don't appreciate you calling his child a break
baby and just dismissing the kid altogether.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's just that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Then, on top of that, you can't gatekeep your kids
from their grandparents like you just can't do that because
you don't like that they're you know, involving their other
grandchild or being nice to their other grandchild. You try to, well,
my kids can't go over there, and unless I'm there,
that's insane. So why would I Why would they invite
your kids on a Disney vacation if you have to
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be there right, like they weren't gonna pay for you
to go to Disney.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I just I think it's so wild if.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They know there's an issue, so they're keeping the relationship
separate because they know there's an issue. The grandparents aren't
gonna do like they're they're doing their thing over here
with that because they know that it would be too
stressful or hurtful or whatever to put it all together.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Exactly, because had they invited your kids, you would have said, well,
why is the break baby gone? You know, you would
have tried to stop them from including the other child.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And that's not right.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Em.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I love how she calls it a break baby, but
that is your step son exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That is your husband's son, and that's the siblings to
your kids. Did that happen with Dwayne Wade? Am I
making this up when him and Gabrielle Union broke up?
Didn't he have a baby? He did have a baby, Yeah,
and then they got back together. Obviously interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow, Okay, you.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Guys are the jury eight five, five, five nine one
one three five what say you?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
The grandparents are not wrong bro for not inviting you,
I mean inviting your kids like you've you set that boundary.
You said that the grand they're not allowed to be
alone with the kids anymore because they love their other grandchild.
You started that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I agree with you, But I guess what I wonder
is she has to acknowledge the existence of the child
the break baby quote unquote. I'm only using that because
that's yeah, that's I guess how we're differentiating here. I mean,
but she has to acknowledge that the child exists in
respect that. But does she have to? Does she have
to include that child in her life? I don't think
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she should necessarily block her kids from having a relationship
because they have the same father. I don't think that
she should demand that she has to be there. But
you said she has to accept this child? Does she
have to?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
In my opinion, she has to because she accepted her
cheating husband. Yes, and this is this is a child
that he created, and you, if you're his wife, you
accept what comes with him, and that's his child. Baby's
innocent exactly, and that child is now your kid's sibling.
So how dare you treat this child the way you're
treating them?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean that's why the grandparents did this. Yes,
that's the only reason that the grandparents probably would have
invited the other kids too, or done something maybe not
that if it was too expensive, but to take everybody.
But they would have done something that includes every all
the kids. I would imagine if there weren't this divide,
they probably didn't include the other kids out of respect
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for the for the mom and the boundaries right.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That she said, So, how dare you get upset and say,
you know, the grandparents are wrong because they didn't invite
my kids to Disney, but they took the other grandchild.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
You set the boundaries, my girl. You did this. You
don't want to have anything to do with the break baby.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You take them the Disney.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You can't come because it's in your rules. You say
you don't want to be around the other kids.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Exactly. Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Hey Brenda, good morning, Brenda, Hi, good morning. Hey Kiky's court,
what say you.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (05:04):
When Kiki first responded, I was like, this is the
wrong point.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
Because what how does a child How is it any
of the child's fault right that this is something that
the father decided to do. This is still a human
being at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
So for.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
What was what your name, Dana the writer?
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Yeah, for her to be so adamant about keeping this
child away, you're ruining somebody, somebody else's whole life too.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, Like why why should the kid feel like a
pariah that part? I understand the kid didn't do anything wrong.
The kid was, you know, the product of a of
a of a dysfunctional relationship at the time. But that
doesn't mean the kids shouldn't have grandparents. It doesn't mean
the kid shouldn't have a father and a mother for
that matter, doesn't mean the kid shouldn't have grandparents.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you're right.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The only reason the other kids we're invited, I'm assuming
is because the grandparents were like, we're not dealing with
the smoke right exactly.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
And maybe maybe.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
They're going to do a separate trip with the other.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Kids, who knows.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
But for her to assume that they're just doing it
to piss her off, that's completely wrong. And I think
the grandparents are amazing, first of all, for accepting a
trial with open arms the way that they have been.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, because it would never be me.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I would never I would never accept a cheating husband
back like that, because I know that I'm that I
wouldn't be able to deal with that myself. So but
she made the decision to get back with him.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You're taking him and the baby, yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, that's the part that I think I have a
hard time with them. Again, I'm not saying you don't
acknowledge the existence of the child, but how much interaction
you have to have with that kid, I don't, I
don't know. I don't think that the mother is required
to have interaction with the baby out of wedlock, will
call it, but she doesn't necessarily have the right to
tell everybody else in the immediate family how they're going
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to handle themselves with this child, because it's not the
child's fault.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I mean, what's the alternative.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Everybody just pretends this kid doesn't exist and the kid
is the one that suffers. No, that's because I think
that does happen a lot of times, where you know,
whether you're cheating and there's a baby or a wedlocked
baby or whatever. It's like, you know, famous people will
just say, here's a bunch of money, right, you just
go away the right right, or say I don't know,
I don't know anything about that. And and here here
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his parents are trying to make it right for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So they're the real heroes here.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
I think so they are.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I think you sure, Yeah, thank you, Brenda, Thank you
have a great dan gud you called.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Hey, Hannah, good morning.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What do you think so?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
The first of all, when like everybody else says, when
she took him back, she knew what she was getting.
But the best thing that she can do is embrace
the relationship between her biological children and their half siblings.
But karma is real, right. There could be a day
something happened medically and she eat something from this, this
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half blood child. Her resentment towards this child is clearly
going to be seen by her biological children, and that
is their half sibling. The best thing that she can
do is embrace this that blended family. You took him back,
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his mistakes and this child, all love from the child.
That's the best thing for her own mental health and
her children.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I think so too, Thank you, Hannah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Thanks, guys, have a good day.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Someone texted, why does fread sound like he smoked three
packs of Newports this weekend? Well, because I was outside,
always had a toy drive, but I was smoking Newports.
The whole time. So that's that's exactly why. Hey Cynthia,
hi more of a lucky strike guy myself just straight tobacco. Yeah,
I just just just straight to I mean, if I
could just smoke the tobacco planetself. But I was outside
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all weekend. But Cynthia, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
So I think we need a little more information. I
feel like necessarily the grandparents are not wrong, but like
if she imposed these boundaries, let's say this weekend, right
and the very first time that they're going to agree
to her boundaries, they do this grand gesture for this
quote unquote break baby. Like maybe that's what's hitting the
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nerve for her because it feels weird that they haven't
respected her boundaries this entire time. And then now she's
talking about there's these boundaries and she has these rules
and whatever, and all of a sudden, now the grandparents
are like, cool, we're gonna take this baby and do
like this big grand thing that they otherwise maybe wouldn't
have done. M but do you.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Agree with our boundaries though? Do you think our boundary
was like appropriate?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I feel like her boundary is it's fine for herself.
Like I think if she wants to be there for
her own comfort level to make sure that all the
kids are treated equal. That's fine, but you can't say
the grandparents can't ever see the children, because then then, yeah,
then the grandparents would be right.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I think the way she went.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
About setting her boundaries and making it seem like to me,
she's kind of making it seem like grandparents are incompetent,
like you cannot have my kids around these other kids
because you might treat this other kids better, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean if you've ever been a product
of a divorce and then like a mixed or blended family,
you know, it's kind of like this, like one person's
gonna sit out well, like like, for example, let's say
a couple gets divorced, the father moves on and marry
somebody else with kids, and now your kids and their
kids are supposed to be a family, right and so
And I've been a part of this where and it
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was forced and didn't work, but it was like, oh, yeah,
you're gonna these are your brothers now, and these are
your sisters, and you're gonna be We're all gonna be
one big, happy family, and somebody has to sit.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Out and watch that.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Not only that, but somebody has to probably even encourage,
like a good a good person might even be like,
why don't you try and embrace them?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know what I mean? But yeah, but yet you
were scorned by the whole thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
There's definitely a high road that you have to take,
and it's for the benefit of the children. Like this
woman got screwed right, like she had cheated on and
the guy had a baby and that's all terrible and
it's a constant reminder, and she took him back. So
now it's always going to be there. But your role
as a mother is going to come first, because the
kids didn't do anything wrong. You can be mad at
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your husband all you want, you can be mad at
the other woman all you want, but the kid is
a product of what they did, right, So take your
aggression out on them. You know, you have to take
the high road as it pertains to the kids. I think,
look at me, if.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
We had if we had just that much more information,
Like just is this the only the first and only
time you know?
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Or is it like now she's is a mother in
law now looking to pick a fight.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
With you over something that she feels you know, she
wants her opinion to be validated. She wants her feelings
towards her grandchild, this other grandchild to be validated. And
that's all fine, but you can't force this woman. She
doesn't have to love that other kid, right Like, yeah,
that other kid does have to be around her siblings,
but she doesn't have to love that other kid. She
doesn't have to do anything for that other kid. However,
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you don't know what the grandma's gonna do. The grandma's
gonna come in and be a grandma to all of them.
But are you going to put my kids to the
side because you've got this this affair baby that now
you feel like, oh, he doesn't have his daddy at home,
so let me do more for him. Like I guess
that's what we don't know right now. With just with
being said, so right now, I feel like everybody kind
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of sucks. Everybody's just doing taking their own and not
accounting for the kids.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, thank you, Cynthia, have a great day, Thank you too.
So I don't want to make this about me, but Keithy,
let me ask you this. Let me just I'm just
gonna tell a stories. This is not about me. This
is not about it's about Ted. So my friend Ted,
my friend Ted's this is gonna be hard for me
like this because it is about me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But so, my.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Friend Ted's mom was cheated on. Yes, my friend Ted's
dad cheated on. His mom married the woman with whom
he cheated, and she had kids in a family of
her own. It turns out that Ted's mom knew all
the players involved. So now you've got hit her ex husband. Yep,
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she's got her own kids, and now the ex husband
has a new wife and these kids too. Ted's mom
has no obligation to embrace the children of the so,
so then why does Ted's mom? So then why does
this lady have an obligation to embrace this child?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Everybody else does, the dad.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Does, the mom does, the grandparents should, But why does
Ted's Why does this woman who wrote you?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, why is she in the wrong for not embracing this.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Child because she decided to take her cheating husband back.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But that's between the two of them. What do you
think the child has She has nothing to do with
that child.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah she does, because now she's married to this child's dad.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Her kids are their siblings. Yeah, right, And.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
In your case, because your mom did not take your
cheating father back.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You know what I'm saying. She cut all ties with him,
she divorced him.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was over what I talk about working about ted.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
She didn't take tit, She didn't line scheme and daddy back.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
She did not take him back.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Now has she said I want to work things out
with my cheating husband and I know that he's created
another child, then in my opinion, she has to accept
that child because that's a part of him now.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I guess my argument would be, at the very least,
she has to allow all the players that do want
to be involved to do them.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Absolutely, Yes, verily she doesn't have to be involved.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But in my opinion, but she cannot block other people
or shun other people for doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yes, And you cannot police the grandparents on how to
grandparent that's their grandchild. You can't tell them when they
can have their grandchild at their home and how they
can celebrate holidays because you're.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Scorn that's nice.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, I agree with that too, that's the I agree,
especially if they're not being absent minded with the initial
group of kids, like if they're trying to be good
to everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Of course, and that's what it sounds like they were
trying to do and.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That sucks, but like, yeah, you cannot fault them for that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Hey, Christal, good morning.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
By good morning.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Hey, you're saying what a lot of people in the
text are saying. But please.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, so this cheating husband is just fitting in the background. Now,
he made a mistake, whatever, she took him back, but
you take me back, you take my kids.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
He should be addressed in that.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Wife, you can't do my kid like that, even if
I made the mistake, that's my kid with a package deal.
Get your crack together if you're going to stick.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Around exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, where is seeing all this?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, he's taking his.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Wife's side because he confronted his parents like how dare
you take my other child to other kids?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
How? Like what?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Now that dude now sound like him? Yeah, I know
he's the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He is the problem because he should be like, look,
I agree with that. Again, he should be like, you
took me back, this child is my responsibility.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I'm not explained in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't expect you to deal with this, but I
do have to deal with this, right and it's still
my parents still have another grandkid, and so you don't
have to be involved, but you can't.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He's a deadbeat.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
If you want to stand home on holidays, if you
want to skip holidays, that's fine. But I'm a father.
I'm going to have all my kids together. My parents
want to show up to all of their grandkids, and
I'm not going to allow you to police.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
How that happens. That guy's a deadbeat. I'm pissedol.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, And that's a character Paul, right, because if he
behaves that way because he was underneath the fire, he's
willing to throw that kid under the bus. What conditions
if he willing to throw his own kids under the bus,
if he gets him out of the hot water?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, Yeah, Amen, thank you, Chris. So you're staying with
a lot of people in the text are saying, but yeah,
have a good day. Let's get to the fun fact.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Next more Fredshell next right here,
A fresh show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's Kiki's courting, all right, So all rights, the honorable
Kik a leek judge, Kiki take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
All right, let's step in the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit, it says Kiki. My name is Dana. My
husband had an affair ten years ago. We separated for
a few years, but eventually got back together. However, my
husband had a child with his mistress, and it's taken
a big toll on our family. Surprisingly, more than anything,
it's really messed up my relationship with my mother in
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law because she has been very intentional about maintaining a
relationship with my husband's break baby. Every holiday, she buys
gifts and invites my husband's other son over, and I've
expressed to her many times over the years how it
affects and confuses my kids. So I decided to set
some boundaries, and my kids are no longer allowed to
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visit their grandparents' home without me or my husband present. Well,
last week I noticed that my in laws took my
husband's break baby on a disney vacation and no one
reached out.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
To invite my kids.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I was heartbroken, and when I saw the photos, my
husband confronted his parents about the trip, and their excuse
is that they're tired of me trying to control when
they can see their grandkids.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But that is not my intention.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I just want respect for my marriage and my kids,
and I think my in laws are now trying to
purposely hurt my kids by not including them.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, wow, what say you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, Dana, honey, I love you, and there are a
few things wrong here, but it is not your in lass.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
If you took your cheating husband back and you know
that he created a child with another woman when you
took him back, you should.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Have accepted his child. Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So I don't appreciate you calling his child a break
baby and just dismissing the kid altogether.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's just that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Then, on top of that, you can't gatekeep your kids
from their grandparents like you just can't do that because
you don't like that they're you know, involving their other
grandchild or being nice to their other grandchild. You try to, well,
my kids can't go over there, and unless I'm there,
that's insane. So why would I Why would they invite
your kids on a Disney vacation if you have to
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be there right, like they weren't gonna pay for you
to go to Disney.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I just I think it's so wild if.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They know there's an issue, so they're keeping the relationship
separate because they know there's an issue. The grandparents aren't
gonna do like they're they're doing their thing over here
with that because they know that it would be too
stressful or hurtful or whatever to put it all together.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Exactly, because had they invited your kids, you would have said, well,
why is the break baby gone? You know, you would
have tried to stop them from including the other child.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And that's not right.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Em.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I love how she calls it a break baby, but
that is your step son exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That is your husband's son, and that's the siblings to
your kids. Did that happen with Dwayne Wade? Am I
making this up when him and Gabrielle Union broke up?
Didn't he have a baby? He did have a baby, Yeah,
and then they got back together. Obviously interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow, Okay, you.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Guys are the jury eight five, five, five nine one
one three five what say you?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
The grandparents are not wrong bro for not inviting you,
I mean inviting your kids like you've you set that boundary.
You said that the grand they're not allowed to be
alone with the kids anymore because they love their other grandchild.
You started that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I agree with you, But I guess what I wonder
is she has to acknowledge the existence of the child
the break baby quote unquote. I'm only using that because
that's yeah, that's I guess how we're differentiating here. I mean,
but she has to acknowledge that the child exists in
respect that. But does she have to? Does she have
to include that child in her life? I don't think
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she should necessarily block her kids from having a relationship
because they have the same father. I don't think that
she should demand that she has to be there. But
you said she has to accept this child? Does she
have to?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
In my opinion, she has to because she accepted her
cheating husband. Yes, and this is this is a child
that he created, and you, if you're his wife, you
accept what comes with him, and that's his child. Baby's
innocent exactly, and that child is now your kid's sibling.
So how dare you treat this child the way you're
treating them?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean that's why the grandparents did this. Yes,
that's the only reason that the grandparents probably would have
invited the other kids too, or done something maybe not
that if it was too expensive, but to take everybody.
But they would have done something that includes every all
the kids. I would imagine if there weren't this divide,
they probably didn't include the other kids out of respect
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for the for the mom and the boundaries right.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That she said, So, how dare you get upset and say,
you know, the grandparents are wrong because they didn't invite
my kids to Disney, but they took the other grandchild.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
You set the boundaries, my girl. You did this. You
don't want to have anything to do with the break baby.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You take them the Disney.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You can't come because it's in your rules. You say
you don't want to be around the other kids.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Exactly. Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Hey Brenda, good morning, Brenda, Hi, good morning. Hey Kiky's court,
what say you.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (05:04):
When Kiki first responded, I was like, this is the
wrong point.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
Because what how does a child How is it any
of the child's fault right that this is something that
the father decided to do. This is still a human
being at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
So for.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
What was what your name, Dana the writer?
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Yeah, for her to be so adamant about keeping this
child away, you're ruining somebody, somebody else's whole life too.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, Like why why should the kid feel like a
pariah that part? I understand the kid didn't do anything wrong.
The kid was, you know, the product of a of
a of a dysfunctional relationship at the time. But that
doesn't mean the kids shouldn't have grandparents. It doesn't mean
the kid shouldn't have a father and a mother for
that matter, doesn't mean the kid shouldn't have grandparents.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you're right.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The only reason the other kids we're invited, I'm assuming
is because the grandparents were like, we're not dealing with
the smoke right exactly.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
And maybe maybe.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
They're going to do a separate trip with the other.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Kids, who knows.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
But for her to assume that they're just doing it
to piss her off, that's completely wrong. And I think
the grandparents are amazing, first of all, for accepting a
trial with open arms the way that they have been.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, because it would never be me.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I would never I would never accept a cheating husband
back like that, because I know that I'm that I
wouldn't be able to deal with that myself. So but
she made the decision to get back with him.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You're taking him and the baby, yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, that's the part that I think I have a
hard time with them. Again, I'm not saying you don't
acknowledge the existence of the child, but how much interaction
you have to have with that kid, I don't, I
don't know. I don't think that the mother is required
to have interaction with the baby out of wedlock, will
call it, but she doesn't necessarily have the right to
tell everybody else in the immediate family how they're going
(06:55):
to handle themselves with this child, because it's not the
child's fault.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I mean, what's the alternative.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Everybody just pretends this kid doesn't exist and the kid
is the one that suffers. No, that's because I think
that does happen a lot of times, where you know,
whether you're cheating and there's a baby or a wedlocked
baby or whatever. It's like, you know, famous people will
just say, here's a bunch of money, right, you just
go away the right right, or say I don't know,
I don't know anything about that. And and here here
(07:21):
his parents are trying to make it right for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So they're the real heroes here.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
I think so they are.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I think you sure, Yeah, thank you, Brenda, Thank you
have a great dan gud you called.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Hey, Hannah, good morning.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What do you think so?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
The first of all, when like everybody else says, when
she took him back, she knew what she was getting.
But the best thing that she can do is embrace
the relationship between her biological children and their half siblings.
But karma is real, right. There could be a day
something happened medically and she eat something from this, this
(08:02):
half blood child. Her resentment towards this child is clearly
going to be seen by her biological children, and that
is their half sibling. The best thing that she can
do is embrace this that blended family. You took him back,
(08:22):
his mistakes and this child, all love from the child.
That's the best thing for her own mental health and
her children.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I think so too, Thank you, Hannah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Thanks, guys, have a good day.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Someone texted, why does fread sound like he smoked three
packs of Newports this weekend? Well, because I was outside,
always had a toy drive, but I was smoking Newports.
The whole time. So that's that's exactly why. Hey Cynthia,
hi more of a lucky strike guy myself just straight tobacco. Yeah,
I just just just straight to I mean, if I
could just smoke the tobacco planetself. But I was outside
(08:59):
all weekend. But Cynthia, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
So I think we need a little more information. I
feel like necessarily the grandparents are not wrong, but like
if she imposed these boundaries, let's say this weekend, right
and the very first time that they're going to agree
to her boundaries, they do this grand gesture for this
quote unquote break baby. Like maybe that's what's hitting the
(09:23):
nerve for her because it feels weird that they haven't
respected her boundaries this entire time. And then now she's
talking about there's these boundaries and she has these rules
and whatever, and all of a sudden, now the grandparents
are like, cool, we're gonna take this baby and do
like this big grand thing that they otherwise maybe wouldn't
have done. M but do you.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Agree with our boundaries though? Do you think our boundary
was like appropriate?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I feel like her boundary is it's fine for herself.
Like I think if she wants to be there for
her own comfort level to make sure that all the
kids are treated equal. That's fine, but you can't say
the grandparents can't ever see the children, because then then, yeah,
then the grandparents would be right.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I think the way she went.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
About setting her boundaries and making it seem like to me,
she's kind of making it seem like grandparents are incompetent,
like you cannot have my kids around these other kids
because you might treat this other kids better, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean if you've ever been a product
of a divorce and then like a mixed or blended family,
you know, it's kind of like this, like one person's
gonna sit out well, like like, for example, let's say
a couple gets divorced, the father moves on and marry
somebody else with kids, and now your kids and their
kids are supposed to be a family, right and so
And I've been a part of this where and it
(10:39):
was forced and didn't work, but it was like, oh, yeah,
you're gonna these are your brothers now, and these are
your sisters, and you're gonna be We're all gonna be
one big, happy family, and somebody has to sit.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Out and watch that.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Not only that, but somebody has to probably even encourage,
like a good a good person might even be like,
why don't you try and embrace them?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know what I mean? But yeah, but yet you
were scorned by the whole thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
There's definitely a high road that you have to take,
and it's for the benefit of the children. Like this
woman got screwed right, like she had cheated on and
the guy had a baby and that's all terrible and
it's a constant reminder, and she took him back. So
now it's always going to be there. But your role
as a mother is going to come first, because the
kids didn't do anything wrong. You can be mad at
(11:22):
your husband all you want, you can be mad at
the other woman all you want, but the kid is
a product of what they did, right, So take your
aggression out on them. You know, you have to take
the high road as it pertains to the kids. I think,
look at me, if.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
We had if we had just that much more information,
Like just is this the only the first and only
time you know?
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Or is it like now she's is a mother in
law now looking to pick a fight.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
With you over something that she feels you know, she
wants her opinion to be validated. She wants her feelings
towards her grandchild, this other grandchild to be validated. And
that's all fine, but you can't force this woman. She
doesn't have to love that other kid, right Like, yeah,
that other kid does have to be around her siblings,
but she doesn't have to love that other kid. She
doesn't have to do anything for that other kid. However,
(12:09):
you don't know what the grandma's gonna do. The grandma's
gonna come in and be a grandma to all of them.
But are you going to put my kids to the
side because you've got this this affair baby that now
you feel like, oh, he doesn't have his daddy at home,
so let me do more for him. Like I guess
that's what we don't know right now. With just with
being said, so right now, I feel like everybody kind
(12:30):
of sucks. Everybody's just doing taking their own and not
accounting for the kids.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, thank you, Cynthia, have a great day, Thank you too.
So I don't want to make this about me, but Keithy,
let me ask you this. Let me just I'm just
gonna tell a stories. This is not about me. This
is not about it's about Ted. So my friend Ted,
my friend Ted's this is gonna be hard for me
like this because it is about me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But so, my.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Friend Ted's mom was cheated on. Yes, my friend Ted's
dad cheated on. His mom married the woman with whom
he cheated, and she had kids in a family of
her own. It turns out that Ted's mom knew all
the players involved. So now you've got hit her ex husband. Yep,
(13:13):
she's got her own kids, and now the ex husband
has a new wife and these kids too. Ted's mom
has no obligation to embrace the children of the so,
so then why does Ted's mom? So then why does
this lady have an obligation to embrace this child?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Everybody else does, the dad.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Does, the mom does, the grandparents should, But why does
Ted's Why does this woman who wrote you?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, why is she in the wrong for not embracing this.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Child because she decided to take her cheating husband back.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But that's between the two of them. What do you
think the child has She has nothing to do with
that child.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah she does, because now she's married to this child's dad.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Her kids are their siblings. Yeah, right, And.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
In your case, because your mom did not take your
cheating father back.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You know what I'm saying. She cut all ties with him,
she divorced him.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was over what I talk about working about ted.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
She didn't take tit, She didn't line scheme and daddy back.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
She did not take him back.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Now has she said I want to work things out
with my cheating husband and I know that he's created
another child, then in my opinion, she has to accept
that child because that's a part of him now.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I guess my argument would be, at the very least,
she has to allow all the players that do want
to be involved to do them.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Absolutely, Yes, verily she doesn't have to be involved.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But in my opinion, but she cannot block other people
or shun other people for doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yes, And you cannot police the grandparents on how to
grandparent that's their grandchild. You can't tell them when they
can have their grandchild at their home and how they
can celebrate holidays because you're.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Scorn that's nice.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, I agree with that too, that's the I agree,
especially if they're not being absent minded with the initial
group of kids, like if they're trying to be good
to everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Of course, and that's what it sounds like they were
trying to do and.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That sucks, but like, yeah, you cannot fault them for that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Hey, Christal, good morning.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
By good morning.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Hey, you're saying what a lot of people in the
text are saying. But please.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, so this cheating husband is just fitting in the background. Now,
he made a mistake, whatever, she took him back, but
you take me back, you take my kids.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
He should be addressed in that.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Wife, you can't do my kid like that, even if
I made the mistake, that's my kid with a package deal.
Get your crack together if you're going to stick.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Around exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, where is seeing all this?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, he's taking his.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Wife's side because he confronted his parents like how dare
you take my other child to other kids?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
How? Like what?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Now that dude now sound like him? Yeah, I know
he's the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He is the problem because he should be like, look,
I agree with that. Again, he should be like, you
took me back, this child is my responsibility.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I'm not explained in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't expect you to deal with this, but I
do have to deal with this, right and it's still
my parents still have another grandkid, and so you don't
have to be involved, but you can't.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He's a deadbeat.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
If you want to stand home on holidays, if you
want to skip holidays, that's fine. But I'm a father.
I'm going to have all my kids together. My parents
want to show up to all of their grandkids, and
I'm not going to allow you to police.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
How that happens. That guy's a deadbeat. I'm pissedol.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, And that's a character Paul, right, because if he
behaves that way because he was underneath the fire, he's
willing to throw that kid under the bus. What conditions
if he willing to throw his own kids under the bus,
if he gets him out of the hot water?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, Yeah, Amen, thank you, Chris. So you're staying with
a lot of people in the text are saying, but yeah,
have a good day. Let's get to the fun fact.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
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