All Episodes

March 10, 2025 13 mins

A woman's mother passed away and left her wedding dress for the hopes that one day she would wear it on her wedding day. Her sister-in-law had a different idea and she wants to wear it on HER wedding day even though she never met the mother...

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
So no Kiki's Court this week in staid Morality Monday
on a Monday, It's incredible. And this is from the
Reddit forum. Am I the a hole? And I want
to know what you guys think about this? Eight five
five five one three five. I feel very strongly about this,
very strongly on one side, very very strongly. So here
it is, A thirty two year old female says, I

(00:22):
lost my mom four years ago. It was devastating, and
I inherited a lot of her stuff, including her wedding dress.
My mom and I were incredibly close, and she always
talked about how much she wanted me to wear her
dress when I got married. I'm not married yet, but
I've been saving the dress for my special day. Long
comes my brother. A twenty nine year old male who

(00:43):
is getting married next year and his fiance recently asked
if she could wear my mom's wedding dress. She said
it would mean a lot to her because she never
got to meet my mom and she wants to feel
connected to her on the big day. This woman says,
I understand it's a sweet gesture, but I don't feel
comfortable with her wearing something that's so sentimental to me.

(01:04):
Especially since my mom always wanted me to wear it.
When I told her I wasn't okay with it, she
got upset and said that I was being selfish. Now
my brother is mad, saying it's just a dress and
that I'm ruining their wedding over something that isn't a
big deal. I offered to help her find a similar
dress or even incorporate a piece of my mom's dress
into her own gown, but she refused, and my family

(01:25):
is now divided, with some saying I'm in the right,
others saying I should let it go for the sake
of family harmony. Am I the a hole for refusing
to let her wear the dress? Absolutely? Not? Absolutely not
your mom. You guys had a bond. You guys had
a deal. You know what her wishes were. She wanted
you to wear the dress. And that's that eight five

(01:49):
five one three five You can call and text the
same number.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, why does the fiance of the brother, right,
Why does she even feel so comfortable as to ask
you that like that? People who have nothing to do
with the family always it to get involved and like
ask these questions to make everybody uncomfortable. My thing is
like take your ask David's bridal wherever?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Like get a dress? Like why do you have to
wear my mother's who is deceased? Her never?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
You never knew her.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I understand, maybe want to incorporate her into your day?
Love that I can get you a nice picture, you know,
framed of her. We can do something sweet for my mother.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
But what about a piece of jewelry? Jewelry? What about
another clothing item?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know something. There are a lot of other.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Ways, but wearing this wedding dress that means a lot
to me when I'm you know, on my day when
I'm going to wear it. Obviously it's my mother's and
she wanted.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Me to wear it.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Like why are we Like why are you putting this position?
I'm so tired of people just getting involved.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
That's also something that needs to be offered to you. Yes,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
The brother like or like someone needs to say, hey,
it would mean a lot to me if you incorporated
a piece of my mom since you never met her.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
You can't like be like, well, I want to wear
her wedding dress, you know what I mean? Wild And
I can't. I can't blay Devil's advocate here because I
feel so strongly about it because I'm a sentimental person
and I you know, heirlooms, You know, I feel about
heirlooms and things like that. You're a purist. I am
a purist. That being said, you know, it was his
the fiance was his mom too, So I understand that

(03:15):
it might mean something to him, But he's not really
even standing on business. He's basically just saying, don't don't
upset my fiance. It's not like it meant me. If
it meant something to him, why didn't they have a conversation.
Why didn't he and his mom have a conversation about
that prior, you know, and say like hey, someday when
I get married, right, or hey, I know you're giving
the dress to my sister, but like I want to
make sure that you're represented in my wedding too, or

(03:37):
something like that. But no, no, no, there wasn't that conversation.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And now this woman is going to cause issues between
the you know, me and my brother in this scenario,
and then we're gonna have issues. And because at the
end of the day, like yeah, as the man or
the fiance, right, he wants to make his future wife happy,
like happy wife, happy life.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
But this isn't it. This is not the cause, this
is not it. It's a weird thing to stand on too.
Like for the fiance, let's say again, you I get
that the mom meant something to your soon to be husband,
but like you didn't know her, you don't get to
stay claim to things that were hers. I mean, if anything,
he should be coming up with the solution, he should
be saying, well, this, there's another item that meant something

(04:15):
to me, you know, because there's there's stuff of my
mom's that that I want someday in a million years
when she goes to heaven that meant something to me
that has more significance to me than my sister, and
vice versa. I'm sure, so you know, like and there's
and there's stuff that is more feminine that my sister
should have and then she should give it to her
daughters or whatever. But I don't like this, said, oh hey, Susan, Yes, Susan, unbelievable.

(04:45):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's insane to think that it's okay to wear the dress.
What if if mother was still alive and she didn't
even like her, Well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's yeah, right, I mean I just and didn't the mom.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Didn't the daughter say that the mom always saved it
because she wanted.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Her toware right, very specifically, not that's her wish right,
So then.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
And away from her they dress.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, I guess you could in this case, but
like that, I don't think this woe should be in
that position. I don't think this woman should be in
a position to have to tell someone else, you can't
have my mom's stuff that was given to me.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Tell her to go ask her mom for her wedding dress.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Don't you got a mom, where's your.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Mom or an auntie or grandmother or somebody. But she
absolutely I would not give anything that was from my
mom or my father to someone that's marrying into the
family that was not already in the family.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, it also sounds like she's already causing drama because
she's fixated on this dress when she has no right
to the dress. So there is a compromise here, But
the fiance has decided that she won't compromise, and I
don't think she's in a position to tell the actual
daughter what she should or shouldn't have on her wedding day.
I mean, again, there are probably fifty other things that

(06:08):
they could do to incorporate mom and to accomplish the
thing that this fiance is saying. She wants to feel
closer to this to the mother on the wedding day.
But no, she decided like a brat, that it has
to be the one thing. You know what I'm saying.
I don't like this at all. I don't like I
don't like the fiance anymore. I don't like I mean,
I don't know her, but I don't like her me.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Either, And we don't even know her. She's already got
thirteen listeners against That's.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
What I'm saying. Good luck, good luck, you know, thank you, Susan. Right,
you're thirteen of the fiercest, most intelligent, attractive listeners. I'll
have you know. Hey, Kim, Hey, Hello, Kim, Hi, what
do you think morality Monday?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
You know, I just real quick, you're mentioning at thirteen.
I'm I'm one of the thirteen. My friends and I
way back we were on drunk Jeopardy, Like, how long
ago was that?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh god, no, I recall that part
of the history of the show. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
It was a long time ago. So one of the
thirteen right here. But this woman is absolutely crazy that
she's even making this suggestion. I mean, I don't even understand,
like how how you would even think to ask somebody
for that.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, I think it's it's quite the asking. Again, there
are other things, there are other things they could do,
but no, it has to be that, right and once
she and now it's like, honey, it has to be
that you fix it. And so now we have this
big divide in the film.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I think it's very telling that this woman's asking for
this and you know, demanding it. It just seems like
she wants a lot of drama. And if I was
this woman with the dress, I don't think I'd be
able to even look at at the sister in law
the same way. The fact that she keeps demanding that
she gets the dress, it just seems like too much drama.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I think if you wanted to do that, then
you have to accept what the family is willing to
give you and you don't get to stand on business
on this.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
I think it's crazy too that the brother is going
along with this instead of trying to figure out something
else to do or some other item of his mother's
if his future wife really wants to feel connected in
this way, which is honestly very odd that she needs
some material objects to connect to the mother in law
that's no longer here and that seems strange in the

(08:23):
first place. But then the husband to be should really
be the one to figure out what he has that
he can lend her or whatnot. Not the man that
the sister give up the dress.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, and that's one of that's his sister too, Like
he would I mean, I get I guess he's being
married and his fiance's you know whatever, but like, you're
not going to stand up for your sister on this.
That's your blood's sister. Crazy. Yeah, I don't like it.
Thank you, Kim, Thank you guys. I think someone's messing
with me because this is the name of a friend

(08:55):
of mine. It can't be though. Hello, yes, hello, yeah?
What did you I think? What did you want to say?
Go ahead? Morality Monday on The Fred Show.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Oh yeah, I don't get this lady. How can she
ask to wear to dress that just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I mean even the sister even offered to incorporate part
of the dress for her. She was like no, offered
to find another dress, and she still was like no, Mary,
she didn't get out of here with that. There's no
going with someplace. And the brother, like you said, the
brother's not even taken up for a sister and deceaseed. Mom.
I don't I don't get it. I don't get it
at all.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yep, I don't get it either, Thank you. And know
this name is the name of a I'm not saying
the name. Maybe that guy just happens to have the
same name as my friend who is also a competitor.
So I don't know why I would say that. It
just seemed weird. I feel like if I had said
the actual name, maybe that guy has the same name.
But if I had said that, I feel I could
have gotten somebody in some trouble. Is it like a
unique name? No, No, it's also a fake name. I

(10:01):
don't know, Alice. I was very confused, aliceon Hi, Hey Allison,
good morning. What do you want to say? Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
By the way, So first thing, dress is a no go?
That is her dress and no is a full sentence.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. I mean I'm glad that no
one's calling up here trying to convince us otherwise, because
there is no other argument.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know, something borrowed, something blue. Mom has got to
have something else.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
She has got jewelry, she has got to she has
got scarred.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
There's another way to incorporate that mother.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I agree, I agree completely. You could do it.
But no, this girl's being a brat now because she's
saying no, it has to be that, because because I
was told no, I don't like this. What's next?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It maybe your wedding. It's not your dress.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Amen, Amen, thank you, have a good day. Love you guys,
I love you to Alison Misty. Hi, Missy, good morning, Hi,
good morning, real fast on, Missy. Let me do my
little radio host job here and just recap. A woman
is upset because she and her mom had a deal
that her mom's wedding dress would be hers to wear.

(11:08):
The mom passed away, and now the brother is getting
married and this other woman, the fiance is like, I
want the dress to wear to the wedding. I don't
think that's fair. Now you could go miss.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Okay, So good morning everyone. So the fiance is insane,
first of all for even thinking to ask that, but
in order for her to wear it. That means she
has to get a tailored for her body. And then
what happens if she ruins the dress or doesn't.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Give it back.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, because you could argue that they could both wear it,
But I don't know if they're even similarly shaped or whatever.
I mean, I guess if she thinks it will fit her,
then maybe, But I still I see it's principle, like,
doesn't it kind of take away the sentimentality of it?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yes, yeah, it definitely does. And I think it's more controled.
Does she really want the dress or does she want
to say I was able to get this from you?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well, at this point it sounds like she's she's fixated
on it, and it's like yeah, and now and now
the fiance has to fix it. So now he's going
to be in trouble if he doesn't get it wrong,
and he doesn't get it right, and then the sister's
now the villain, and the sister didn't do anything. She's
just like, I'm not giving it to you.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah, I don't like her.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't like her, miss Yeah, I don't either. I've
called the whole thing off, forget about it. I'm not
going to a wedding anymore. I was gonna go to
this wedding. I'm not going anymore. Thank you, missy for it.
I'm not doing it. Have a good day.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
You know I'm not going either.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
No, don't go, man. You know what we're gonna do.
We're taking back our honey fund donation too. You know what?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
You know what point?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, you pay for your own damn honeymoon. Now, I'm
sure she wants the sister to pay for it. Probably
what does she want, mom? Swimsuit to wear? The too
nasty Thank you, missy, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
He's smile.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
That's my swimsuit too. You can't wear can't wear dance
swimsuit together. Those are ours. That's kind of a gross
thing to ever rewear of anyone else the entertainer. Of course,
it's next

The Fred Show On Demand News

Advertise With Us

Follow Us On

Host

Christopher "Fred" Frederick

Christopher "Fred" Frederick

Show Links

Official Website

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.