March 14, 2025 • 10 mins
Alexander is confused why Amy won't text her back after a nice date, where he even bought her flowers... Find out why he got ghosted.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show, Alexander, Good morning, Welcome to the show. How
are you. I'm hanging in there. Thanks for helping me
out today. Yeah, So what's going on with this woman? Amy?
How did you meet? Tell us about any dates you've
been on, and then where things are now.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, we met through the dating apps, and after you know,
talking to each other through that, we arranged to go
out on a date.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We're both pretty busy and travel for work and all that,
so we had to find something to kind of work
for our schedules. And normally I would put in a
little more effort, but I really just wanted to meet
her and see if this would work. And so I Botterflowers,
total gentlemen the whole time, and were I felt like
it was like going great. After a couple of drinks,
(00:47):
she just said she had to get going, and then
I never heard from her, no calls, texts, replies. I
didn't really over text too much because once you don't
hear back, you know, but like a couple of times
and it's just nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Wow, look at this guy, Flowers on the first day
that's very sweet. Is that very nice? How often does
that happen anymore? I wonder? Probably not a lot? Right, yeah?
And I mean and here he says he wanted to
meet her, so he didn't really plan much of a
day because he just wanted to get to it. He
was so excited at me. This is what a sweet guy?
This is? Come on, Alexander, how can this will when
(01:20):
I call you back? I don't know. I don't know.
I was gonna say this usually reason nonetheless, So it
is honestly, so far, so good. Like it seems like
you put in some effort and you wanted to meet her,
You were excited about her, the flowers, and you say
you were a gentleman and the whole thing. But for
whatever reason, since today you have not heard from her.
She hasn't responded to you. It would appear that you're
(01:41):
being ghosted, and you want to know why, right exactly?
All right, Well, let's call Amy in just a second.
We'll play one song, we'll come back, we'll do it.
You'll be on the phone at some point. You're welcome
to jump in on the call. And the hope is
always is that we can straighten this out and set
you guys up on another date and pay for that.
Sound good?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
This sounds great.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Let's see what's going on in part two of waiting
by the phone. Right after guy got Bruno Mars. All
shall be revealed in two minutes on The Fred Show.
Any guy got Brunda Mars The Fred's Show four hundred
and fifty bucks. It's I almost said, show Bis Shelley,
showis Kiki. And by the time I get used to
SHOWBIS Kiki, show Bis Shelley will come back and then
I'll mess that up four point fifty. You can win
in ten minutes. Alexander, Yeah, let's call Amy. You guys
(02:18):
met on a dating app and you were super excited
to meet her. You just described so you you planned
a date, kind of quickly, got her some flowers, you
went for drinks. You thought the drinks went really well.
But you have called and texted and all these things
since the date and she's not responding to you at all.
And you want to know how did we go from
what you thought was, you know, kind of a thoughtful,
gentlemanly date to now nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm just kind of scratching my head here, so
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, well, let's call Amy now, good luck Alexander,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Hi is this Amy? Yeah? This is this is Hi Amy.
Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred Show, the morning radio show. I have to tell
you the whole careers here we are on the radio,
and I would need your permission to continue with a call.
Can wech that for just a second?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I read you, guys, I'm really on the way out
the door.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, well you can just really quickly though. I'll just
get to it and you can hang up if you'd
like to. But a guy named Alexander reached out to us.
He says that he'd met you on a dating app
and you, guys recently went out. Do you remember meeting him?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I do, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, So what happened with this guy? Because we just
talked to him and he said he liked you a lot,
was excited about you, excited to meet you, and he
thought that the date would really well between you two.
Says he got you flowers and felt like he was
a gentleman. But he hasn't heard from you since then,
and so he reached out to us and he was
hoping we could help him. So what's going on? Why
haven't you called this guy?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Okay? You know, you know, you know, you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
He's a nice guy, right, I mean he's he's all so,
he's a lot of really good things.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But honestly, you guys, he just tried too hard.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That was too much.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, well it was like, yeah, the flowers.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
It was kind of weird, how hot, like how hard
he was trying.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's like that little.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Kid is like sing, you know, the type of thing
when you're you know, and so he was a little
aggressive about then aggressed by that. And I wasn't entirely
turned off, honestly, it was it was kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But then, you know, we're sitting down.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And for dinner and he pulls something out of his
bag and he hands it to me and it's like
this dog.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's like this stuffed dog.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And then like I get I'm like, oh, because I
had mentioned one time that I wanted to like rescue
a dog and to call it, you know people that
foster dogs, Yeah, a dog foster, and.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So I would have a dog fosterer.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
During dinner and like, in passing, I thought that would
be really great to have a dog, you know, and
and especially a disabled dog and take it in.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So she pulls out this stuffed dog and.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
A stuffed dog, like are we talking taxidermy stuff? Like
what was like a To be clear, we're talking about stuffed.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Animal here, not a taxi for me, like like you know,
dumb may No, it wasn't anything.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Like like like a stuffed animal dog that he got
for you because you'd mentioned that you wanted to adopt. Okay,
well that's sweet, Yes, that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Was kind of sweet. And then I'm looking.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
At it and like he had like cut off a
leg of the can he say?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It was a straight face, you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
He cut off a leg and he sewed it back
up to make the dog look disabled.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Like, oh, I see so he so he was a
three legged dog doll that he gave you because okay,
I got, oh wow, like a dog.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So he made me one, you.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Know, I mean said you wanted to talk to disabled
dog and he I mean, he didn't just give her
any stuffed animal. He gave her one that creepy creepy yeah. Wow.
The guys, you can sew they should sell three legged dogs.
How do you think the three legged dogs feel though
I agree. It's like it's like you calein when you
go to you know, Hawai. No listen, though, we'll hear
(06:15):
me out. When you go to Hawaii and they had
a little license place in the airport that you can
buy and they don't spell your name correctly. There's no
klin No. So this is the same way. If I'm
a three legged dog, I feel the same way. Why
is it that when I go to the store to
buy a dog of toy? Yeah, there isn't surely there's
a market for this. I think that I'm weird. Okay, weird.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You guys are weird.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I forgot to mention that Alexander is here, by the
way that.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Oh my god, no, yeah, I just want to say
that that's really hard on that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And like women always say, they want like a thoughtful,
romantic man who listens and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I even had I.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Had a YouTube out of so I think she sounds
a little great.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, we have heard so much more. This guy
really listened to her. But why did you cut the
leg off the dogs? Because she wanted to adopt a
disabled dog? She said, So it wouldn't it wouldn't have
been quite the same if he'd just given her a
normal dog toy.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's giving weird though, Like he's in his basement with
a sewing machine that she got to do with your
foot and it's like braining out in dark and he's
chopping legs off stuffed dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That's weird. It is a dark room basement.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Cart I never say anything about a basement.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
He did it in his bed room in his mom's house.
It wasn't It certainly was not in the basement of anything.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'm creeped out.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It is a little extreme, but at least it proves
Calin that he was listening. He was listening to her
when she talked, and he was trying to give her
a personalized gift.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And that's hard to come by people that listen to you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Right, I'm not that mad at this. What are you
mad about, Kiki?
Speaker 6 (07:49):
This is weird, Like like I was with him until
he cut the man leg off or the dog man.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Second, we didn't say this man was Max murder. I
mean that's giving.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
That, it's giving that, Okay, Like I don't I don't
mess around with people who want to pop heads off,
doals and like arms and legs and you're cutting the
leg off the stuff animal like you didn't have to
go that far. I was with him, like, I was, Oh,
that's cute. He brought our a little dog and maybe said,
you know, in the future we can foster together something
like that's cute. But to actually cut off the leg
(08:21):
that is weird. That is weird, and you did.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, I you know, Alexander, I see both sides here.
I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt
because we've had some real jerks call up here is
a nice way of saying it. And it does sound
like you were paying attention. It does sound like you
wanted to be thoughtful and give her a personalized gift.
But I can also see why that's a strange gift
to give somebody. It is a strange It is a
(08:45):
strange thing to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I feel like I'm unfairly getting grouped in with the
popping heads off of dolls.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, that's like crowd that's your put into that category.
Unfairly right there, I believe. Okay, too early, it's too
early to.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Be that early to be that. You know that everybody
knows women you can't please them.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Everybody knows that the three legged dog trick is a
third date fit like never, that's never time for that.
We're not late, we're not on like never do that?
What to do with the other piece? Where's the other
piece of the lake? Where's the leg?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay? Look, so I mean, Amy, look, we've heard worse.
Would you give the guy another chance? It is a
little weird, but I mean no.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
No, no, no, no, no, it's nice enough.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But you know what, just just just okay, now.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well you should see the voodoo doll that Alexander has
that you go, no, I'm kidding. Of course you don't, Alexander,
do you?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I don't. Okay, so he doesn't say he doesn't
do I'm sorry, dude. I can see what I can
see where your mind was. The execution was a little off,
but I can see where you I can see what
you were thinking. Okay, and I'm a little aggressive but thoughtful. Nonetheless,
so what maybe we just pumped the brakes a little
bit up with the next one when we get excited
(10:15):
about and god forbid, I don't know what other hobbies
they could say that they have. But I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
You stay strong, You listen to women, and you don't
ever change you rock, don't.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You can change a little like it's just like a
little slight bit, just change a little bit. But guys,
Alexander Amy, thank you for your time. Best of luck
to both of you. Yeah, the Entertainment Report is next
with Kayla I mean two minutes, then four fifty show Biz,
Kiky five and oh in the Showdown. If you can
beat her, that money is yours. Fresh Show
I've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show, Alexander, Good morning, Welcome to the show. How
are you. I'm hanging in there. Thanks for helping me
out today. Yeah, So what's going on with this woman? Amy?
How did you meet? Tell us about any dates you've
been on, and then where things are now.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, we met through the dating apps, and after you know,
talking to each other through that, we arranged to go
out on a date.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We're both pretty busy and travel for work and all that,
so we had to find something to kind of work
for our schedules. And normally I would put in a
little more effort, but I really just wanted to meet
her and see if this would work. And so I Botterflowers,
total gentlemen the whole time, and were I felt like
it was like going great. After a couple of drinks,
(00:47):
she just said she had to get going, and then
I never heard from her, no calls, texts, replies. I
didn't really over text too much because once you don't
hear back, you know, but like a couple of times
and it's just nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Wow, look at this guy, Flowers on the first day
that's very sweet. Is that very nice? How often does
that happen anymore? I wonder? Probably not a lot? Right, yeah?
And I mean and here he says he wanted to
meet her, so he didn't really plan much of a
day because he just wanted to get to it. He
was so excited at me. This is what a sweet guy?
This is? Come on, Alexander, how can this will when
(01:20):
I call you back? I don't know. I don't know.
I was gonna say this usually reason nonetheless, So it
is honestly, so far, so good. Like it seems like
you put in some effort and you wanted to meet her,
You were excited about her, the flowers, and you say
you were a gentleman and the whole thing. But for
whatever reason, since today you have not heard from her.
She hasn't responded to you. It would appear that you're
(01:41):
being ghosted, and you want to know why, right exactly?
All right, Well, let's call Amy in just a second.
We'll play one song, we'll come back, we'll do it.
You'll be on the phone at some point. You're welcome
to jump in on the call. And the hope is
always is that we can straighten this out and set
you guys up on another date and pay for that.
Sound good?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
This sounds great.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Let's see what's going on in part two of waiting
by the phone. Right after guy got Bruno Mars. All
shall be revealed in two minutes on The Fred Show.
Any guy got Brunda Mars The Fred's Show four hundred
and fifty bucks. It's I almost said, show Bis Shelley,
showis Kiki. And by the time I get used to
SHOWBIS Kiki, show Bis Shelley will come back and then
I'll mess that up four point fifty. You can win
in ten minutes. Alexander, Yeah, let's call Amy. You guys
(02:18):
met on a dating app and you were super excited
to meet her. You just described so you you planned
a date, kind of quickly, got her some flowers, you
went for drinks. You thought the drinks went really well.
But you have called and texted and all these things
since the date and she's not responding to you at all.
And you want to know how did we go from
what you thought was, you know, kind of a thoughtful,
gentlemanly date to now nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm just kind of scratching my head here, so
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, well, let's call Amy now, good luck Alexander,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Hi is this Amy? Yeah? This is this is Hi Amy.
Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred Show, the morning radio show. I have to tell
you the whole careers here we are on the radio,
and I would need your permission to continue with a call.
Can wech that for just a second?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I read you, guys, I'm really on the way out
the door.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, well you can just really quickly though. I'll just
get to it and you can hang up if you'd
like to. But a guy named Alexander reached out to us.
He says that he'd met you on a dating app
and you, guys recently went out. Do you remember meeting him?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I do, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, So what happened with this guy? Because we just
talked to him and he said he liked you a lot,
was excited about you, excited to meet you, and he
thought that the date would really well between you two.
Says he got you flowers and felt like he was
a gentleman. But he hasn't heard from you since then,
and so he reached out to us and he was
hoping we could help him. So what's going on? Why
haven't you called this guy?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Okay? You know, you know, you know, you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
He's a nice guy, right, I mean he's he's all so,
he's a lot of really good things.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But honestly, you guys, he just tried too hard.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That was too much.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, well it was like, yeah, the flowers.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
It was kind of weird, how hot, like how hard
he was trying.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's like that little.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Kid is like sing, you know, the type of thing
when you're you know, and so he was a little
aggressive about then aggressed by that. And I wasn't entirely
turned off, honestly, it was it was kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But then, you know, we're sitting down.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And for dinner and he pulls something out of his
bag and he hands it to me and it's like
this dog.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's like this stuffed dog.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And then like I get I'm like, oh, because I
had mentioned one time that I wanted to like rescue
a dog and to call it, you know people that
foster dogs, Yeah, a dog foster, and.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So I would have a dog fosterer.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
During dinner and like, in passing, I thought that would
be really great to have a dog, you know, and
and especially a disabled dog and take it in.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So she pulls out this stuffed dog and.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
A stuffed dog, like are we talking taxidermy stuff? Like
what was like a To be clear, we're talking about stuffed.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Animal here, not a taxi for me, like like you know,
dumb may No, it wasn't anything.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Like like like a stuffed animal dog that he got
for you because you'd mentioned that you wanted to adopt. Okay,
well that's sweet, Yes, that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Was kind of sweet. And then I'm looking.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
At it and like he had like cut off a
leg of the can he say?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It was a straight face, you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
He cut off a leg and he sewed it back
up to make the dog look disabled.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Like, oh, I see so he so he was a
three legged dog doll that he gave you because okay,
I got, oh wow, like a dog.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So he made me one, you.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Know, I mean said you wanted to talk to disabled
dog and he I mean, he didn't just give her
any stuffed animal. He gave her one that creepy creepy yeah. Wow.
The guys, you can sew they should sell three legged dogs.
How do you think the three legged dogs feel though
I agree. It's like it's like you calein when you
go to you know, Hawai. No listen, though, we'll hear
(06:15):
me out. When you go to Hawaii and they had
a little license place in the airport that you can
buy and they don't spell your name correctly. There's no
klin No. So this is the same way. If I'm
a three legged dog, I feel the same way. Why
is it that when I go to the store to
buy a dog of toy? Yeah, there isn't surely there's
a market for this. I think that I'm weird. Okay, weird.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You guys are weird.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I forgot to mention that Alexander is here, by the
way that.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Oh my god, no, yeah, I just want to say
that that's really hard on that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And like women always say, they want like a thoughtful,
romantic man who listens and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I even had I.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Had a YouTube out of so I think she sounds
a little great.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, we have heard so much more. This guy
really listened to her. But why did you cut the
leg off the dogs? Because she wanted to adopt a
disabled dog? She said, So it wouldn't it wouldn't have
been quite the same if he'd just given her a
normal dog toy.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's giving weird though, Like he's in his basement with
a sewing machine that she got to do with your
foot and it's like braining out in dark and he's
chopping legs off stuffed dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That's weird. It is a dark room basement.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Cart I never say anything about a basement.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
He did it in his bed room in his mom's house.
It wasn't It certainly was not in the basement of anything.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'm creeped out.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It is a little extreme, but at least it proves
Calin that he was listening. He was listening to her
when she talked, and he was trying to give her
a personalized gift.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And that's hard to come by people that listen to you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Right, I'm not that mad at this. What are you
mad about, Kiki?
Speaker 6 (07:49):
This is weird, Like like I was with him until
he cut the man leg off or the dog man.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Second, we didn't say this man was Max murder. I
mean that's giving.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
That, it's giving that, Okay, Like I don't I don't
mess around with people who want to pop heads off,
doals and like arms and legs and you're cutting the
leg off the stuff animal like you didn't have to
go that far. I was with him, like, I was, Oh,
that's cute. He brought our a little dog and maybe said,
you know, in the future we can foster together something
like that's cute. But to actually cut off the leg
(08:21):
that is weird. That is weird, and you did.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, I you know, Alexander, I see both sides here.
I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt
because we've had some real jerks call up here is
a nice way of saying it. And it does sound
like you were paying attention. It does sound like you
wanted to be thoughtful and give her a personalized gift.
But I can also see why that's a strange gift
to give somebody. It is a strange It is a
(08:45):
strange thing to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I feel like I'm unfairly getting grouped in with the
popping heads off of dolls.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, that's like crowd that's your put into that category.
Unfairly right there, I believe. Okay, too early, it's too
early to.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Be that early to be that. You know that everybody
knows women you can't please them.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Everybody knows that the three legged dog trick is a
third date fit like never, that's never time for that.
We're not late, we're not on like never do that?
What to do with the other piece? Where's the other
piece of the lake? Where's the leg?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay? Look, so I mean, Amy, look, we've heard worse.
Would you give the guy another chance? It is a
little weird, but I mean no.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
No, no, no, no, no, it's nice enough.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But you know what, just just just okay, now.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well you should see the voodoo doll that Alexander has
that you go, no, I'm kidding. Of course you don't, Alexander,
do you?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I don't. Okay, so he doesn't say he doesn't
do I'm sorry, dude. I can see what I can
see where your mind was. The execution was a little off,
but I can see where you I can see what
you were thinking. Okay, and I'm a little aggressive but thoughtful. Nonetheless,
so what maybe we just pumped the brakes a little
bit up with the next one when we get excited
(10:15):
about and god forbid, I don't know what other hobbies
they could say that they have. But I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
You stay strong, You listen to women, and you don't
ever change you rock, don't.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You can change a little like it's just like a
little slight bit, just change a little bit. But guys,
Alexander Amy, thank you for your time. Best of luck
to both of you. Yeah, the Entertainment Report is next
with Kayla I mean two minutes, then four fifty show Biz,
Kiky five and oh in the Showdown. If you can
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