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March 24, 2025 12 mins

Liz is confused why her date Noah won't text her back after a couple of fun dates. Find out why she got ghosted!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Ladies,
Good morning, welcome to the program. How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning program? Huh that sounds serious the program.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, I saw, I say it sometimes, But what's going
on with this guy Noah? We want to help you
out on waiting by the phone. You feel like maybe
you're being ghosted? Tell us kind of everything. How did
you guys meet? I want to hear about any dates
you've been on, any details you want to share, and
we're going to try and figure this out.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, thank you? So, Yeah, I met Noah through
this indoor volleyball league. We both joined this winter, one
of them, one of the sports like.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Social club companies. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sure, I just kind of wanted to do something active
being that it was colder outside and uh not for nothing,
but I heard there were a lot of single men there,
so why not.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, people do that at volleyball.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
They have like softball leads, you can sign up for
soccer stuff. Yeah right, and it's all just guys is
like being active.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
But let's face it, people trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Get some Yeah, I mean, yeah, fade right, It's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, I'm a little too lazy for that. But still
I gotta go kick the ball the meats that come.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, like, no, I'm good, But then you can
go you can go to the trivia meat groups.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean you also have to leave the house for that.
But I just I'm just holding one day. My doordask
driver is the hottest person I've ever seen, male or
female at this point, just whatever, ok yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Engaging in his door desk career. Okay, so you you
joined on.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
A door to side note, have you been getting male names?
And then a female shows up? Or female names? And
then a male shows up keeps hopping to this.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes, thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, that actually makes me a little nervous side note
because it's like, wells, whose account is this registered?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Like why can't you deliver? Who is the person who
actually is showing up? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I act he asked the guy the other day and
he said it was his mom's.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh it's like, why were you? Okay, so you you
joined this league to meet a person and then what happens?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mede a person I met Noah And it was
after a few weeks there and we started talking about
getting a drink after volleyball, and we did, and I
think it went really well. So I know it went
really well because we planned a second date, which was
more drinks and dinner and uh again, I say, and dinner,
and that went really really well. So we went back

(02:29):
to his place, we had some fun, and then uh,
Noah built the arc and rode away into the sunset.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, so after two days and a hookup, you never
heard from him again. He never called it, I mean, okay,
and you rushed down and it was.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
More I'm sorry to cut you off. It was kind
of more of like a fade away. It wasn't just
like a disappear. The messages got shorter and shorter and
then eventually stopped. So I don't know what the deal is.
This was not like a random saying we like really
got to know each other and.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Then hooked up.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It wasn't like one of those things where we just
kind of hooked up and he disappeared. So I didn't
think this was appropriate time for our fade away.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
All right, Well, and after two dates and all the
rest of it, So here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna call Noah in just a second. He'll be on
the phone list. At the same time. We're gonna ask
some questions at some point you're welcome to jump in,
and the whole is that we can straighten it all
out and set you up on plus another days that
were days?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Sound good?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Awesome? Thank you so much, guys.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Let's see what's going on in part two of Waiting
by the phone. We're back in two minutes on the
Fred Show.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
To stay here.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
He's the Fred Show on the radio and the iHeart
app live and catch up anytime. Search for the Freend
Show on demand and make us a pre set. Please,
Hey Liz, I'm here. All right, let's call Noah. You guys,
you went on a couple of dates. You met actually
out in the wild at one of those like sort
of sports social things, right, You guys were being active together,
which is so exciting and which it makes sense. I

(03:53):
see why people you know, mee meet that way, especially
when it's cold, some kind of indoor event makes sense.
You meet this guy, you going two dates. The last
date you hooked up, you thought everything was really headed
in one direction. But you have not heard from this
man since then. You feel like he's ghosting you. You
want to know why.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
That sums it up pretty well.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Thank you all.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Right, well, let's call him now. Good luck, Liz.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Is this Noah? Hey? No, hey a, Hi, good morning.
My name is Fred.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now and I would need your permission
to continue with the call. Can which have for just
a second? You can hang up anytime? Yeah, I guess yeah, Well,
thank you Noah. We're calling on behalf of a woman
named Liz, who I guess you met. You were playing
sports together. There were a volleyball and you went on

(04:47):
a couple of dates. You remember, Liz, I do, Okay,
So she called us that, Oh well, hold on, I
just wanted to tell you where we're at here. She
called us and liked you a lot, told us about
the couple of dates that you guys have been on,
but says that you haven't reached out since. And so
I'm just curious and maybe you maybe you knew what
I was going to ask, But you know, why is that?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Are you ghosting her?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I think, first of all, let's just start here. It's
insane that you guys are calling me, first off, and secondly,
especially for her. Oh she's we we we did meet
playing volleyball. It was great, We got along well, we
went out a few times, we had some fun. Uh
and then you know, uh, you know, something kind of
struck me as wrong the whole time, and I just

(05:29):
really couldn't put my finger on it. And then finally,
you know, the night that she stayed over and we
you know, I kind of put two and two together
and I realized that, you know, this guy that she's
been talking about all the time, and she talks about
this best friend of hers that she's been best friends
with for you know, for a long time, and uh,

(05:51):
all of a sudden, out of nowhere, I put it
together that this best friend of hers is her ex boyfriend.
Now these two spend time together, they go to family
things together, They sleep in the same bed at least
once a week together. Like that's uh okay.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
So so Noah, you you're getting to know Liz. You
guys are going on these dates, and she keeps referring
to this best friend of hers and all the different
activities they do together. And I don't know, like if
I guess if it's me and I hear that they're
sleeping in the same bed, and they're hanging out constantly
in family stuff. If I'm being really honest, I just
assume it's a gay best friend. If it's a guy.
I mean, it sounds like it sounds like, you know,

(06:27):
pretty intimate. If you have, if you have a romantic
friend or a male female dynamic that's like that, I
would assume you would date that person. Well, it turns
out they did. They did date, but they still do
all these things.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Eleven years, eleven years and so the eleven years and.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It sounds like they're still dating. It kind of sounds
that way. But she describes as man as her ex.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, so she's got this guy in her life that
does everything with her. What does she need Noah for?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh my god, what does she need Noah for?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
In the third person, I would I agree, what does
she need Noah for?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And here to answer that question is Liz. I forgot
to mention that Liz is here. Liz.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You left Ali the ex of eleven That is a
very honest reaction. You left out the eleven year relationship
dude who still sleeps in bed with you once a week.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
You left that out.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't believe
how insecure.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
No it is.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean, a girl can't be close friends with a guy.
I mean, first of all, well, well I have so
much to say. I can't even believe he's freaking out
about this. It's so crazy. I mean, me and me
and my ex are not meant to be together, and
it's not physical at all, but we'll always love each other.
You know, He's always going to be a staple in
my life. He's my best friend for many years, and

(07:42):
we just we tried the dating thing and it didn't.
It's not for us. I mean I bet a hundred
bucks that that he would feel differently if Matt Matt
my ex, if he was a woman.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Conversations well, I mean honestly, if it was a woman
who you had dated for eleven years, I think the
concern would be the same. I mean, what we're talking
about vegetable standards, I don't think so. What we're talking
about here is a is a relationship of eleven years
that was at one point romantic, and it sounds like
it's everything and you're saying, but the sex, but it
sounds like it's every bit as intimate as it was.

(08:17):
And so another person comes along and they're like, wait
a minute, that would be my job, and that dude's
not going anywhere, and you're talking about it so openly.
I guess I can see the reservations.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I mean, like I just I understand to a degree.
But it's just like something you got to get over.
Like they'll meet, they'll hang out, and he'll realize this
guy is not that and he'll realize run the best, frind.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, the met's going to be in your bed by
ten pm. Because why are you sharing bay? I'm gay
and I don't sleep in a bout with another many
of them? Why see in your bad at it?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Girl?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I mean, you know struggles for cuddles?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Man? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
It is physical.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
In fact, I would argue that's more intimate than other
things that you could do in bed.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean I could.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Live teddy bear, you know. I mean I've heard this
before the guys like, well, I guess you can't have
sex without the eggs.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
But huh, it's it's it's the level of intimacy though,
it's it's it's the lack of boundaries. Like if I'm
a guy trying to date you, and I can see
from a mile away that there's this other guy who's
very much fulfilling a lot of that role, then I
might ask the same questions, like, well what am I
here for?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
But again, like if it was a female, even if
we dated it, if it was a female and we
were laying in bed together and going out and playing
volume doing all these things together, then nobody would have
anything to say about it.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I could honestly tell you that the differentiating factor is
the fact that you were romantic. And I know that
you'd think I'm bsing you as a guy, as a
straight dude. But if I dated a woman or met
a woman and found out that she was she spent
that much time and had that much level of intimacy
and that level of closeness with a woman who she
used to date, that would concern me too. I don't

(10:03):
care if it's a man or a woman. It's more
what are you gonna like? Why is this other person?
Why there are no boundaries? That's that's a.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Friend, it's my best friend. I mean, if you wants
to be my best friend and bought my best friend
out of the picture, I just think that just sounds
jealous and possessive and insecure and you'd be missing out
on a great.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Best friends that don't cuddle with you in bed at
night once a week, I'm told.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I mean, it's literally like sleeping with my dog.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I did not date my dog for eleven years. You know,
I cuddle with my dog.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
But yeah, it's also a dog. It's not a human
being who you went slept with. And and and I
mean your family.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, once with many many many years ago. And he's
still friends with my family and they love him. And
it's like, yeah, I mean, I I just.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Don't get it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I guess I'm just surprisedly is that you can't
see even though you clearly understand this and feel comfortable
with it. I guess I'm surprised you can't, you know,
sort of put the shoe on the other foot and say,
would you like it if Noah had this woman in
bed with him when he was texting you And it's
not an intimate it's not sexual. But but there's a
woman who sleeps in bed with him.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's not you.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I can your point, but
I just feel like, I don't know, I feel I'm
a little more open minded in this field. I guess
a lot of people have an issue with it, so
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
All right, So the guys are if you know about
this right too.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I don't know if it would ever work out if
Matt knew that you didn't approve anyway, So no.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So Matt, Matt gets the best friend, gets to make
the decision. Then, so we ask.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Matt, well, I didn't get to make the decision, but
he gets a.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Vote in who you date my best friend?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Oh boy, your ex boyfriend gets a vote in who
you date next while he's in bed with you. Look,
I mean, if it works for you, that's fine, but
you got to realize it's not going to work for.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
A lot of better work everybody else.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, okay, well anyway, look, I'll ask the question, Noah,
do you want to try again? Maybe madd will come.
Maybe you can beat Mad. Do the interview prize, go
through the interview process.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Nails pulled for my body?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh, be more clear? Wow, that's aggressive. That's okay. So
that's a no for Noah.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Look, I wish you the best of lucked.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Sounds like you had a great friendship, and I hope
that you can find somebody who's coming through with all
of them? Okay, Noah, we got we've heard enough from you.
Let's let's just hope, Liz, Yeah, Voe is going to
be weird now, it's going to be strange, all.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Right, find another place to play.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
It's cool, all right. Thank you both for your time.
Best of luck to both of you.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Thank you, f

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