March 24, 2025 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Order a fresh show. It's Geeky's cord pull it eight
eight Oh my god, no, no, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
First of all, is there like he won and he
won six hundred and fifty dollars. He didn't win one
hundred and fifty dollars to three and two who texted? So, guys,
let's make sure that we know everything before we are outraged. Okay,
thank you, That's all I ask. You know, feel free
to be outraged, just have all the information.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thirteen Yeah, yeah, the kids was cheating and everything else.
What was going out. I'm not I'm not willing to
accuse children of cheating yet. I'm just not. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm not with that level. I'm not that level yet,
that level of petty. Nonetheless, it starts over tomorrow one
hundred bucks and if you don't lose, then you get
all the money. Okay, Congress, have no fear, Have no fear. Kiki,
Judge Keky is here, the honorable judge Kiki. All rise, judge,
(01:06):
if you would.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
All right, let's step into the courtroom. It says Heiki Key,
one of my best friends is getting married soon, but
I won't be in attendance. When my friend got engaged,
I was so happy for her. We celebrated her engagement
and she mentioned something to me about being in her
bridal party and we were both so excited. After all,
she was the maid of honor in my wedding. But
(01:28):
fast forward months later, I see photos from her bachelorette
vacation on social media. That is how I learned that
I am not in her wedding. The sad part is
that I think the only reason she didn't include me
is because her fiance and I had a heated exchange
on Facebook over politics.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well that might be one reason. Yeah, yeah, I could
have something to do with it. I've noticed that people
are for sneaky about that these days.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I don't see that happens.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I said, if somebody would have a differing political opinion
and then eliminate you from their lives, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, she says, she did send me an invitation to
the wedding, and I've decided to decline the invite.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What do you think should I still attend? So she's
mad because she's not in the wedding party.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, but.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
She was invited to the wedding. She was invited to
the wedding. Now, keep in mind, this girl was her
maid of honor in her wedding, so you stood beside
me as my maid of honor, but you don't even
think to include me in your wedding party at all.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I feel like the only way that works is if
you have a complete and total falling out. I don't
think you can demote a former maid of honor. I
don't know that. I don't know that they have to
be the maid of honor, right, But if someone is
significant enough in your life judge Kiki to be your
maid of honor, then wouldn't you think that they would
include you in their day as well.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I mean it's nice to think, you know, we all
can think and assume, but it's really up to the
bride and if you don't make the cut, I think,
as my friend, you know, if you're having issues with
my fiance, There's a lot that goes into planning a
wedding and being a part of the bridal party. There's rehearsals,
there's dinners, there's back bridal showers, all these things, and
(03:15):
if I've decided, you know what, it's best for my
mental health that you are not a part of those
things because you can't get along with my fiance. I
feel like that's my prerogative right, But as my friend,
I don't think you shouldn't go to her wedding. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you still be there and
show up to support your friend. You go, you say, hey,
you know you were my maid of honor. I thought
(03:36):
we were tighter than this. I thought we were closer
than what you know this shows. But I'm still here
on your day to support you because at the end
of the day, it's not about me, it's about you.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So you did what you felt was right.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I mean cause, yeah, it feels bad to see
your friends on you know, vacation without you and you're like,
oh my god, that was my maid of honor.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
She didn't even include me.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You can feel all the things, but at the end
of the day, the bride still has the right.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
To make the decision that she made. In my opinion, yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And like unless, I mean, there's people whose weddings that
I was in that I wouldn't necessarily have in mind
if I were to get married today. And I also think, like,
you know, if you want the friendship to end, then
you can skip out on the wedding. But if you
are not okay with the friendship ending, then you need
to go to the wedding and you need to swallow
it and just keep it moving.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, by the way, Kaylen's still looking for this woman
with the Venmo request.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You guys, she paid me. Oh nice, you finally got
your sixty five dollars.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I had to go to someone else to ask for help,
who then made a group chat who then she didn't
answer for days, But we finally got our success.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So maybe this woman is being done a favor by
not having to go to all this shit.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I just I don't know how you.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I feel like you got to find a place you're
made of honor caliber, but yet you're not even in
a wedding party for the other person. I don't know.
I mean, it feels like quite the demotion. Yeah three five,
you guys are the jury. I mean, how would you
feel about that? How would you feel if you made
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someone you're maid of honor or you're you're best man,
and then that person turns around and gets married however
long later, and you're not even included in the wedding party.
You don't get to go to the bachelorette party, the
bachelor party. This is your group of friends too. You
don't even get to be there. Like that's like I
got invited to a bachelor party. It's the famous Key
(05:28):
West bachelor party. A bunch of great guys in Key West.
No idea, no idea why they chose that place. I
have no I mean, I was so disappointed. I'm like,
finally we have grown up money and we don't have
to go to like South Padre Island. Yeah right, we
can go to like Prague or somebody like somebody someplace insane,
like he's a bunch of doctors and lawyers and then
anitia radio personality. I'm like, we got grown up money,
(05:49):
we can go do grown up stuff now.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh no, we went to Key West.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But I wasn't in the wedding, but I was included
because I think the guy was like, well, you're our
buddy too, But like I didn't know. I was kind
of the adopted member of the friend group. So I
didn't deserve to be in the wedding. And I wasn't
upset about that, but I thought it was cool that
he invited me to the bachelor party anyway, because I
think he wanted to avoid what this woman's going through,
(06:13):
which is basically everybody got invited to the bachelor party
who was going to be in the wedding because he'd
known them since they were kids. And then I wouldn't
have gotten to go because I wasn't in the wedding,
but it still would have been fun for me to
have been included, right, So he did that for me.
So I don't know if different with girls, like would
you be would you be upset as a girl? Would
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you feel slighted if it was, Hey, look you're not
going to be in the wedding, but you can come
to the bachelorette party.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Oh no, see, now that's where I would be upset
because don't ask me to pay money to come to
your trip and come, you know, pay on your bachelorette festivities.
And I'm not a part of the writer party. That's
an absolute no for me. But when it comes down
to the wedding, I feel like we've all had friends
who have had partners that we weren't totally head over
heels for. We didn't think they were a good person,
we didn't like the guy, whatever, But you still stay
(07:00):
loyal to your friend because at some point he's going
to show his true colors to her, and you know
you still want to be there for her when that
all hits the fan, because I would go to the wedding.
You know, when they say, does anybody object? I would
call real loud, you know, anybody object to this union? Yes,
I do, you know, but I would still be there
for my friend. I just think we can't just assume
(07:21):
that people are going to hold us at the same
type of standard we hold them in our lives all
the time.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I've said this before, Kiki.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I at this point in my life, I feel like
I would need to just elope if I ever got married,
like call my parents and call her parents or whatever
and be like okay, because the list of people that
I'm going to offend at this point, after having been
alive this long, get to invite or I don't put
in the wedding party, or I I mean I've stood
(07:51):
in multiple I've stood in more than one wedding for
the same human being.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
At this point.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Really, I've stood in weddings for I mean, one guy's dead,
Oh oh that man, I'm yeah, or I PM shout
out to Stuart Man. But I'm just saying like I've
been No, he was a great guy. I'm just saying
I've been around long enough at this point in my
you know, early mid forties or whatever that I there's
no way that I could get everybody in my wedding
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party who is important to me. So I feel like,
rather I feel like I as a guy without a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I think about things.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Like what I'm gonna do at my non wedding, but
it's like I feel like I would have to do
something quick and dirty because I wouldn't mean to not
include anyone. But I think I could really hurt some
people's feelings if I didn't include them in a wedding
or in a bridal party.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, I can't picture you either way, Like having a
whole circus wedding.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I really don't with like caters.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And this and that and the tucks fittings and like
having a whole you know, bachelor whatever part.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I can't picture that. I picture because you're so low
key too that I feel like you would just be like, hey,
we're doing this next Saturday. You guys want to come?
Like That's how I see it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And because I'm Pauline, it would be you guys, would
be my parents, my sister, my brother in law, probably
my nieces. And then you know, I've got a couple
really close, like super close friends. And then outside of that,
I have a lot of friends, a lot of friends,
but they're not I don't know, I don't I mean,
I'm either gonna have to invite a thousand people or nobody.
And I don't mean that as like a humble brag,
(09:18):
but it's it if I think you get to a
certain point in your life where I've got a lot
of different work people that I value. I've got a
lot of different friends I value. I've got friends in like,
you know, to Paulina's point, I've got friends for different categories,
and I think there'll be a lot of people who
would be upset, and not because I'm popular, but because,
you know, you get to a certain point in your
life where you just you've been exposed to a lot
of different people who mean something to you, and this
(09:41):
is the kind of messy stuff that happens. Hey, Marissa,
good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Thank you, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I love you, guys, thank.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You, We love you too. So Kiki's court.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Basically, it's it's a woman who was is getting married
and and how do I explain this.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Best He's left out of the bridal party by her
best friend because she doesn't like her husband, and this.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Woman was also her maid of honor, So like there's
kind of like you would think there would be a
reciprocation thing going on here.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I'm currently in the process of planning my wedding
as well, and one of the things that I think
is most important is it's your wedding and you have
to do what's best for you. So I agree with
what Keiki said, Like if that's what she decided, that's
what she decided. But she needs to have a conversation
with this girl, Like you just don't go silent and
go ghost. If she was her your maid of honor
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or whatever that relationship was, like something had to have happened,
whether it was the issue on politics or not, but regardless,
give her the courtesy to call her and say, hey,
here's where we're at. I don't want you to be
upset XYZ, and then go from there instead of just
not saying anything and just sending out an invite. And
she finds out through social media that she wasn't invited
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or a part.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Of the wedding.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, that's a good point because if we're best friends,
that's the least you can do is explain, tell me
why I'm not included exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And then coming down to the girl, if she should
or should not go to the wedding. I think she
should go regardless, like she might have some tip of
feeling on it. But again, that's when she could have
that conversation. She attends the wedding, and then after the fact,
she could then call that woman and say, Hey, I
attended your wedding, but I feel some type of way
on the fact that I wasn't included in the first place,
(11:24):
But I still wanted to be there for you and
just resolve it through communication, and.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well there for you at the divorce.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, right, maybe is it Marisa or Marissa? Did I
say right, Marissa? Marissa? So let me ask this, because
you're planning your wedding now, Like I could come up
with as many people as you want to stand up there,
but don't you want the numbers to be even? And like,
let's say that I only wanted to include. Let's say
I only had two or three friends that I thought
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were close enough to stand up there, And so then
wouldn't would you then go and have seven if you
had seven, or would you then narrow it down to
three too, so that it were even on both sides
and that way, I mean, that would make it really difficult,
But at least then you could say, well, he picked three,
I picked three. So I had to draw the line somewhere,
I guess, I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
At the end of the day, like, it really just
depends on the person, Like how I was. I always
thought I would be the person where I was like,
I need to have even numbers. But then when it
came down to it, like I had five really good
friends who I was gonna have stand up and I
had a falling out with one of them, so it
was about to be like four for me and five
(12:35):
for my fiance. And I sat there and I was like,
I'm not just going to fill a position when they
don't hold the same weight of relationship as the other
four who I am having stand up is. So I
think it just really depends on what your feeling is
on it. And I don't think you need a reason
besides the fact of here's what it is. Here's where
our relationship stands. It's not that I don't love you,
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it's not that I don't care about you, but I
felt x y Z and this is why I'm going
to move forward with not having you. But again, that
comes down to the communication that the bride should have
called her quote unquote best friend to.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Tell her that, yeah, fact you didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think there's something that had to have happened because
you don't just randomly not include your best friend. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
This is friendship ending stuff right here. But thank you, Marissa,
have a good day.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Thanks you too.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, I agree with whoever said that it is.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
This is the kind of stuff where if you don't
handle it right, you wind up without a friend forever.
But then at the same time, you got to show
some grit.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's tricky.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Hey Raquel, Yeah, sorry, how you doing?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hey Raquel, welcome? What do you think Kikey's cord.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
She should not attend the wedding. I think the point
is that she was not told by the bride that
she was not going to be included in the wedding,
and she found out via social media conversation of the situation. Yes,
that's so, there's no conversation you find out via photo,
(14:03):
So then you expect me to go to the wedding. No,
I don't think she should have to go to the
wedding at all, and she shouldn't send a gift either, Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Business girl.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, yeah, I mean I think there could have been
a world where you had the conversation. She didn't find
out the way she found out. You weren't sneaky about it,
and maybe there would be some understanding and maybe some
hurt feelings. But okay, but this way, it's like you're
trying to pull one over on me, kinda correct.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
So had you had the conversation and said, hey, you know, Brad,
my fiance does not want you in the wedding because
of whatever the political fight was, I'm sorry I have
to rescind the invitation to include you in the wedding,
but I still want you to come. Then you go
to the wedding. But the lack of conversation for someone
who's allegedly a best friend, No, I'm sorry you don't
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go to the wedding.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Brad and his damn tesla driving around it's always a problem.
Thank you, Raquel, have a good time, right, don't don't
at me. I just picked a random thing that people
are mad about, So don't don't at me on that. Hi, Sarah,
how are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey, Kiki's court, what say you?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I definitely think that that has become a one way friendship.
That girl is not her front no more. Uh, she
didn't even have the decency to talk to her about it.
And me personally, if it was me, if that person
was that important to me, I'd be telling my fiance, Yeah,
she's gonna be in my wedding and you're just gonna
have to deal with if she's that good of a friend.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, that is a wild thing. Is for a fight
between them to trump no pun intended, but to I
don't know who's on what side, but you know, that's
that's pretty wild to say that a fight that you
had with this significant other of mine, that that's the
reason that you can't be in my wedding and we're
going to end a lifelong friendship over that, Like that's
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that's crazy a little bit.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Most definitely I think that the girl should not go
because me, I'm patty.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I want to be able to hold it in.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I'd probably mess up her weddings with my comments.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So yeah, there was a way to handle it in a
new way that this is. This wasn't it. Thank you, Sarah.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Have a great day, guys.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You too.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And Lee says that she her best friend, did the
same thing, but she did go to the wedding. Hold on,
let's hear the story quickly and then we'll do the
entertainment report. Hey, Lee, what happened? Good morning?
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Hey, good morning guys. I'm one of the thirteen.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Thank you, love you for that.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
So yeah, I actually found out that my friend cut
out my picture and asked everybody else and I wasn't
asked because I couldn't afford it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh my god, Wow, that's awful.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Is she thought that I couldn't afford it to be her,
you know, in the wedding group, So she decided that
financially it would be safe not to ask me to
be in her party. And I found out because I
did confront her and she did cry. I cried, and
you know what, we're so best friends.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Man, I'm saying, you know you you would think that
in that situation, and I've heard of this happening like
low key they just kind of build it into the
budget of the wedding, like yeah, you know, uh, like
Lee's got to be there, so we'll make it work.
And then you because you know, people go through hard
times and whatever and whatever it was I was.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Dating, it was who I was dating at the time,
to be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he sucked me dry.
So he's gone.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm glad things. You
guys are still friends, right.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yes, yes, absolutely, well good have a good daily.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah you guys as well.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I love you guys, take.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Care, love you too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
We had a buddy, a college buddy, uh, and he
was in dental school and didn't have any money, and
so it was like literally had he was scraping by
just to get through dental school. And our other buddy
got married and so it was like, look, he's not
gonna be able to go because he didn't have any money.
And and then it was a destination wedding. I think
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it was can Coon. It was expensive, and you know,
Caitlin spent through this one hundred times. At least it
was can Coon and not you know sal Polo, Brazil
or wherever they helped you ever get but anyway, so
they they worked it in so that they paid for him,
and he was super grateful, and you know, because he
wanted to be there and the whole and he really
couldn't afford it. So we all show up to this
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thing and we all meet in the lobby check in,
and we're all having a nice time, and this this
guy who who who who my friend paid for, was like,
this place is so nice and we're like, yes, I
guess it's pretty nice. He's like, I've never stayed in
a hotel room like this before in my life, like
it is. It is fantastic. I have my own pool,
Like do you guys have your own pool? And my
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buddy looks at him and goes, dude, you're in the
presidential suite.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's our room. It's available.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Get the hell out, like your stuff, get out of
He's like, there's a dining room in it, there's a butler.
But he's like that thinks fifteen hundred bucks a night,
that's mine.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Get out.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But if you hadn't said anything, you would have had
this palace that week and it would have been making
Order a fresh show. It's Geeky's cord pull it eight
eight Oh my god, no, no, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
First of all, is there like he won and he
won six hundred and fifty dollars. He didn't win one
hundred and fifty dollars to three and two who texted? So, guys,
let's make sure that we know everything before we are outraged. Okay,
thank you, That's all I ask. You know, feel free
to be outraged, just have all the information.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thirteen Yeah, yeah, the kids was cheating and everything else.
What was going out. I'm not I'm not willing to
accuse children of cheating yet. I'm just not. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm not with that level. I'm not that level yet,
that level of petty. Nonetheless, it starts over tomorrow one
hundred bucks and if you don't lose, then you get
all the money. Okay, Congress, have no fear, Have no fear. Kiki,
Judge Keky is here, the honorable judge Kiki. All rise, judge,
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if you would.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
All right, let's step into the courtroom. It says Heiki Key,
one of my best friends is getting married soon, but
I won't be in attendance. When my friend got engaged,
I was so happy for her. We celebrated her engagement
and she mentioned something to me about being in her
bridal party and we were both so excited. After all,
she was the maid of honor in my wedding. But
(01:28):
fast forward months later, I see photos from her bachelorette
vacation on social media. That is how I learned that
I am not in her wedding. The sad part is
that I think the only reason she didn't include me
is because her fiance and I had a heated exchange
on Facebook over politics.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well that might be one reason. Yeah, yeah, I could
have something to do with it. I've noticed that people
are for sneaky about that these days.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I don't see that happens.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I said, if somebody would have a differing political opinion
and then eliminate you from their lives, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, she says, she did send me an invitation to
the wedding, and I've decided to decline the invite.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What do you think should I still attend? So she's
mad because she's not in the wedding party.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, but.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
She was invited to the wedding. She was invited to
the wedding. Now, keep in mind, this girl was her
maid of honor in her wedding, so you stood beside
me as my maid of honor, but you don't even
think to include me in your wedding party at all.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I feel like the only way that works is if
you have a complete and total falling out. I don't
think you can demote a former maid of honor. I
don't know that. I don't know that they have to
be the maid of honor, right, But if someone is
significant enough in your life judge Kiki to be your
maid of honor, then wouldn't you think that they would
include you in their day as well.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I mean it's nice to think, you know, we all
can think and assume, but it's really up to the
bride and if you don't make the cut, I think,
as my friend, you know, if you're having issues with
my fiance, There's a lot that goes into planning a
wedding and being a part of the bridal party. There's rehearsals,
there's dinners, there's back bridal showers, all these things, and
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if I've decided, you know what, it's best for my
mental health that you are not a part of those
things because you can't get along with my fiance. I
feel like that's my prerogative right, But as my friend,
I don't think you shouldn't go to her wedding. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you still be there and
show up to support your friend. You go, you say, hey,
you know you were my maid of honor. I thought
(03:36):
we were tighter than this. I thought we were closer
than what you know this shows. But I'm still here
on your day to support you because at the end
of the day, it's not about me, it's about you.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So you did what you felt was right.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I mean cause, yeah, it feels bad to see
your friends on you know, vacation without you and you're like,
oh my god, that was my maid of honor.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
She didn't even include me.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You can feel all the things, but at the end
of the day, the bride still has the right.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
To make the decision that she made. In my opinion, yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And like unless, I mean, there's people whose weddings that
I was in that I wouldn't necessarily have in mind
if I were to get married today. And I also think, like,
you know, if you want the friendship to end, then
you can skip out on the wedding. But if you
are not okay with the friendship ending, then you need
to go to the wedding and you need to swallow
it and just keep it moving.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, by the way, Kaylen's still looking for this woman
with the Venmo request.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You guys, she paid me. Oh nice, you finally got
your sixty five dollars.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I had to go to someone else to ask for help,
who then made a group chat who then she didn't
answer for days, But we finally got our success.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So maybe this woman is being done a favor by
not having to go to all this shit.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I just I don't know how you.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I feel like you got to find a place you're
made of honor caliber, but yet you're not even in
a wedding party for the other person. I don't know.
I mean, it feels like quite the demotion. Yeah three five,
you guys are the jury. I mean, how would you
feel about that? How would you feel if you made
(05:05):
someone you're maid of honor or you're you're best man,
and then that person turns around and gets married however
long later, and you're not even included in the wedding party.
You don't get to go to the bachelorette party, the
bachelor party. This is your group of friends too. You
don't even get to be there. Like that's like I
got invited to a bachelor party. It's the famous Key
(05:28):
West bachelor party. A bunch of great guys in Key West.
No idea, no idea why they chose that place. I
have no I mean, I was so disappointed. I'm like,
finally we have grown up money and we don't have
to go to like South Padre Island. Yeah right, we
can go to like Prague or somebody like somebody someplace insane,
like he's a bunch of doctors and lawyers and then
anitia radio personality. I'm like, we got grown up money,
(05:49):
we can go do grown up stuff now.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh no, we went to Key West.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But I wasn't in the wedding, but I was included
because I think the guy was like, well, you're our
buddy too, But like I didn't know. I was kind
of the adopted member of the friend group. So I
didn't deserve to be in the wedding. And I wasn't
upset about that, but I thought it was cool that
he invited me to the bachelor party anyway, because I
think he wanted to avoid what this woman's going through,
(06:13):
which is basically everybody got invited to the bachelor party
who was going to be in the wedding because he'd
known them since they were kids. And then I wouldn't
have gotten to go because I wasn't in the wedding,
but it still would have been fun for me to
have been included, right, So he did that for me.
So I don't know if different with girls, like would
you be would you be upset as a girl? Would
(06:33):
you feel slighted if it was, Hey, look you're not
going to be in the wedding, but you can come
to the bachelorette party.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Oh no, see, now that's where I would be upset
because don't ask me to pay money to come to
your trip and come, you know, pay on your bachelorette festivities.
And I'm not a part of the writer party. That's
an absolute no for me. But when it comes down
to the wedding, I feel like we've all had friends
who have had partners that we weren't totally head over
heels for. We didn't think they were a good person,
we didn't like the guy, whatever, But you still stay
(07:00):
loyal to your friend because at some point he's going
to show his true colors to her, and you know
you still want to be there for her when that
all hits the fan, because I would go to the wedding.
You know, when they say, does anybody object? I would
call real loud, you know, anybody object to this union? Yes,
I do, you know, but I would still be there
for my friend. I just think we can't just assume
(07:21):
that people are going to hold us at the same
type of standard we hold them in our lives all
the time.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I've said this before, Kiki.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I at this point in my life, I feel like
I would need to just elope if I ever got married,
like call my parents and call her parents or whatever
and be like okay, because the list of people that
I'm going to offend at this point, after having been
alive this long, get to invite or I don't put
in the wedding party, or I I mean I've stood
(07:51):
in multiple I've stood in more than one wedding for
the same human being.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
At this point.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Really, I've stood in weddings for I mean, one guy's dead,
Oh oh that man, I'm yeah, or I PM shout
out to Stuart Man. But I'm just saying like I've
been No, he was a great guy. I'm just saying
I've been around long enough at this point in my
you know, early mid forties or whatever that I there's
no way that I could get everybody in my wedding
(08:16):
party who is important to me. So I feel like,
rather I feel like I as a guy without a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I think about things.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Like what I'm gonna do at my non wedding, but
it's like I feel like I would have to do
something quick and dirty because I wouldn't mean to not
include anyone. But I think I could really hurt some
people's feelings if I didn't include them in a wedding
or in a bridal party.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, I can't picture you either way, Like having a
whole circus wedding.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I really don't with like caters.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And this and that and the tucks fittings and like
having a whole you know, bachelor whatever part.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I can't picture that. I picture because you're so low
key too that I feel like you would just be like, hey,
we're doing this next Saturday. You guys want to come?
Like That's how I see it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And because I'm Pauline, it would be you guys, would
be my parents, my sister, my brother in law, probably
my nieces. And then you know, I've got a couple
really close, like super close friends. And then outside of that,
I have a lot of friends, a lot of friends,
but they're not I don't know, I don't I mean,
I'm either gonna have to invite a thousand people or nobody.
And I don't mean that as like a humble brag,
(09:18):
but it's it if I think you get to a
certain point in your life where I've got a lot
of different work people that I value. I've got a
lot of different friends I value. I've got friends in like,
you know, to Paulina's point, I've got friends for different categories,
and I think there'll be a lot of people who
would be upset, and not because I'm popular, but because,
you know, you get to a certain point in your
life where you just you've been exposed to a lot
of different people who mean something to you, and this
(09:41):
is the kind of messy stuff that happens. Hey, Marissa,
good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Thank you, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I love you, guys, thank.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You, We love you too. So Kiki's court.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Basically, it's it's a woman who was is getting married
and and how do I explain this.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Best He's left out of the bridal party by her
best friend because she doesn't like her husband, and this.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Woman was also her maid of honor, So like there's
kind of like you would think there would be a
reciprocation thing going on here.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I'm currently in the process of planning my wedding
as well, and one of the things that I think
is most important is it's your wedding and you have
to do what's best for you. So I agree with
what Keiki said, Like if that's what she decided, that's
what she decided. But she needs to have a conversation
with this girl, Like you just don't go silent and
go ghost. If she was her your maid of honor
(10:34):
or whatever that relationship was, like something had to have happened,
whether it was the issue on politics or not, but regardless,
give her the courtesy to call her and say, hey,
here's where we're at. I don't want you to be
upset XYZ, and then go from there instead of just
not saying anything and just sending out an invite. And
she finds out through social media that she wasn't invited
(10:54):
or a part.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Of the wedding.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, that's a good point because if we're best friends,
that's the least you can do is explain, tell me
why I'm not included exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And then coming down to the girl, if she should
or should not go to the wedding. I think she
should go regardless, like she might have some tip of
feeling on it. But again, that's when she could have
that conversation. She attends the wedding, and then after the fact,
she could then call that woman and say, Hey, I
attended your wedding, but I feel some type of way
on the fact that I wasn't included in the first place,
(11:24):
But I still wanted to be there for you and
just resolve it through communication, and.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well there for you at the divorce.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, right, maybe is it Marisa or Marissa? Did I
say right, Marissa? Marissa? So let me ask this, because
you're planning your wedding now, Like I could come up
with as many people as you want to stand up there,
but don't you want the numbers to be even? And like,
let's say that I only wanted to include. Let's say
I only had two or three friends that I thought
(11:55):
were close enough to stand up there, And so then
wouldn't would you then go and have seven if you
had seven, or would you then narrow it down to
three too, so that it were even on both sides
and that way, I mean, that would make it really difficult,
But at least then you could say, well, he picked three,
I picked three. So I had to draw the line somewhere,
I guess, I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
At the end of the day, like, it really just
depends on the person, Like how I was. I always
thought I would be the person where I was like,
I need to have even numbers. But then when it
came down to it, like I had five really good
friends who I was gonna have stand up and I
had a falling out with one of them, so it
was about to be like four for me and five
(12:35):
for my fiance. And I sat there and I was like,
I'm not just going to fill a position when they
don't hold the same weight of relationship as the other
four who I am having stand up is. So I
think it just really depends on what your feeling is
on it. And I don't think you need a reason
besides the fact of here's what it is. Here's where
our relationship stands. It's not that I don't love you,
(12:58):
it's not that I don't care about you, but I
felt x y Z and this is why I'm going
to move forward with not having you. But again, that
comes down to the communication that the bride should have
called her quote unquote best friend to.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Tell her that, yeah, fact you didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think there's something that had to have happened because
you don't just randomly not include your best friend. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
This is friendship ending stuff right here. But thank you, Marissa,
have a good day.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Thanks you too.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, I agree with whoever said that it is.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
This is the kind of stuff where if you don't
handle it right, you wind up without a friend forever.
But then at the same time, you got to show
some grit.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's tricky.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Hey Raquel, Yeah, sorry, how you doing?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hey Raquel, welcome? What do you think Kikey's cord.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
She should not attend the wedding. I think the point
is that she was not told by the bride that
she was not going to be included in the wedding,
and she found out via social media conversation of the situation. Yes,
that's so, there's no conversation you find out via photo,
(14:03):
So then you expect me to go to the wedding. No,
I don't think she should have to go to the
wedding at all, and she shouldn't send a gift either, Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Business girl.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, yeah, I mean I think there could have been
a world where you had the conversation. She didn't find
out the way she found out. You weren't sneaky about it,
and maybe there would be some understanding and maybe some
hurt feelings. But okay, but this way, it's like you're
trying to pull one over on me, kinda correct.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
So had you had the conversation and said, hey, you know, Brad,
my fiance does not want you in the wedding because
of whatever the political fight was, I'm sorry I have
to rescind the invitation to include you in the wedding,
but I still want you to come. Then you go
to the wedding. But the lack of conversation for someone
who's allegedly a best friend, No, I'm sorry you don't
(14:53):
go to the wedding.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Brad and his damn tesla driving around it's always a problem.
Thank you, Raquel, have a good time, right, don't don't
at me. I just picked a random thing that people
are mad about, So don't don't at me on that. Hi, Sarah,
how are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey, Kiki's court, what say you?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I definitely think that that has become a one way friendship.
That girl is not her front no more. Uh, she
didn't even have the decency to talk to her about it.
And me personally, if it was me, if that person
was that important to me, I'd be telling my fiance, Yeah,
she's gonna be in my wedding and you're just gonna
have to deal with if she's that good of a friend.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, that is a wild thing. Is for a fight
between them to trump no pun intended, but to I
don't know who's on what side, but you know, that's
that's pretty wild to say that a fight that you
had with this significant other of mine, that that's the
reason that you can't be in my wedding and we're
going to end a lifelong friendship over that, Like that's
(16:00):
that's crazy a little bit.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Most definitely I think that the girl should not go
because me, I'm patty.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I want to be able to hold it in.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I'd probably mess up her weddings with my comments.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So yeah, there was a way to handle it in a
new way that this is. This wasn't it. Thank you, Sarah.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Have a great day, guys.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You too.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And Lee says that she her best friend, did the
same thing, but she did go to the wedding. Hold on,
let's hear the story quickly and then we'll do the
entertainment report. Hey, Lee, what happened? Good morning?
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Hey, good morning guys. I'm one of the thirteen.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Thank you, love you for that.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
So yeah, I actually found out that my friend cut
out my picture and asked everybody else and I wasn't
asked because I couldn't afford it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh my god, Wow, that's awful.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Is she thought that I couldn't afford it to be her,
you know, in the wedding group, So she decided that
financially it would be safe not to ask me to
be in her party. And I found out because I
did confront her and she did cry. I cried, and
you know what, we're so best friends.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That is what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Man, I'm saying, you know you you would think that
in that situation, and I've heard of this happening like
low key they just kind of build it into the
budget of the wedding, like yeah, you know, uh, like
Lee's got to be there, so we'll make it work.
And then you because you know, people go through hard
times and whatever and whatever it was I was.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Dating, it was who I was dating at the time,
to be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he sucked me dry.
So he's gone.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm glad things. You
guys are still friends, right.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yes, yes, absolutely, well good have a good daily.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah you guys as well.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I love you guys, take.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Care, love you too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
We had a buddy, a college buddy, uh, and he
was in dental school and didn't have any money, and
so it was like literally had he was scraping by
just to get through dental school. And our other buddy
got married and so it was like, look, he's not
gonna be able to go because he didn't have any money.
And and then it was a destination wedding. I think
(18:11):
it was can Coon. It was expensive, and you know,
Caitlin spent through this one hundred times. At least it
was can Coon and not you know sal Polo, Brazil
or wherever they helped you ever get but anyway, so
they they worked it in so that they paid for him,
and he was super grateful, and you know, because he
wanted to be there and the whole and he really
couldn't afford it. So we all show up to this
(18:31):
thing and we all meet in the lobby check in,
and we're all having a nice time, and this this
guy who who who who my friend paid for, was like,
this place is so nice and we're like, yes, I
guess it's pretty nice. He's like, I've never stayed in
a hotel room like this before in my life, like
it is. It is fantastic. I have my own pool,
Like do you guys have your own pool? And my
(18:51):
buddy looks at him and goes, dude, you're in the
presidential suite.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's our room. It's available.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Get the hell out, like your stuff, get out of
He's like, there's a dining room in it, there's a butler.
But he's like that thinks fifteen hundred bucks a night,
that's mine.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Get out.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But if you hadn't said anything, you would have had
this palace that week and it would have been making
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