May 5, 2025 • 16 mins
Debby is upset because her teenager daughter's best friend is pregnant and she believes she's a bad influencer and her daughter shouldn't attend the baby shower. Judge Keke weighs in!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Order a fresh show. It's court all rise, the honorable
Judge Kiki is here. Take it away, mad adam.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, let's get in the court room. It says, Hey, Kikey,
my name is Debbie. I'm a longtime Fred's Show listener
and a proud single mom.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Alright, it's not her fault. Then, I know it's somebody else.
You know the story, somebody else's fault, I know.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
She says.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My daughter is fifteen, a straight A student, and she's
very active in her school and community. My daughter has
also had the same best friend since first grade. However,
and unfortunately, her best friend is currently sixteen and pregnant. Obviously,
this has rocked our world, and I've been forced to
have some very deep conversations with my daughter about her
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best friend's choices. But now I've been faced with my
own choice. The girl's mom is giving her a baby shower,
which I think is insane. However, my daughter has been
asking me if she can attend the baby shower, and
I even call her trying to help plan the party.
I don't think any of this is appropriate, and I
don't want my daughter attending a baby shower and somehow
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thinking that this is okay? What should I do?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Are you guys with the jury eight five five five
nine one oh three five Judge Kik, I have to ask.
So we can't celebrate the birth of this baby even
though it was unplanned, potentially right, So I mean, I'm
just wondering about that, Like she doesn't get a shower
even though she's young and it wasn't probably on purpose,
we still don't just make the best of it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
According to Debbie, she's not comfortable with this. And I'm
not a parent, so I would love to hear from parents.
But my hot take is that allow your daughter to
go right, because in my mind, you've raised your daughter
a certain way. You've you've taught her a lot of
valuable lessons. She's a great child, a great student, and
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I don't think she should not be there for her
friend and be held accountable for her friend's decisions like
her friend did what she did, whatever the situation may be.
But you know your kid, you know your daughter, you've
raised her right. You hope that she would make the
great decisions in life. So I think you know this
is a part of life. Teenage pregnancy, it happens. It
happens to people and I think you trying to shield
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her from that may cause her to rebel. And I
think at this time in her friend's life too, they've
been fransince first grade. You know, her friend is probably
going through a lot of things emotionally and mentally, and
I think she really would need your daughter's support, and
I don't think you should take that away from them.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
At this point, I'm so caught up on this baby shower.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So I mean, the point of the shower is to celebrate,
of course, but then also you give gifts and diapers
and all that stuff, which the girl's gonna need. And
then the other thing is if we're just pretending this
didn't happen, because it's a valuable life lesson or a
difficult conversation to have with your own kid, if we're
just gonna pretend this didn't happen. And I go to
the baby, the baby is arriving. The baby's coming exactly,
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and so every time you see this woman and her baby,
that would be a reminder of the fact that this
happened young or was an accident or whatever happened. So
I don't know why we're pretending and it's not happening,
And not acknowledging and celebrating and making the best of it.
Because again, if if the thing is we're not gonna
celebrate this, we're gonna pretend it's not happening, We're not
going to the party, you shouldn't help. Well, then, I
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mean that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, she feels like it will be a bad influence
on her daughter.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
To already happened. It's happening, exactly, it's happening.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It doesn't make her a bad person either.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
If she's having a baby at this age, like you said,
it does happen, and she raised her daughter a certain way,
and her daughter has her own you know, mind, her
own you know, set of values, and that doesn't mean
that that's gonna happen to her as well. If you
attend a baby shower for your friend.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well that's like people who used to say that sixteen
and Pregnant on MTV was glorifying teen pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I watched the show. It didn't look good to me.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Okay, I didn't watch that show and go, man, I
would love to have that life.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Gonna say, it looks like they are crushing it.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
No, Yeah, tell your daughter to look at what follows
and she'll be fine. But also everything's an opportunity for
a discussion to learn.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, we can't just ignore things.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
But yeah, her have her sicker and see how much
she needs her support because it's not glamorous.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I don't know about you guys, but I had
friends that had children when we were sixteen and seventeen
years old, and I didn't. You know, just because they
made a decision or something happened in their life, that
doesn't mean that I'm going to go follow the leader.
I have to do it now too.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's right, Kiki. And yeah I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
No one that's actual me. But I mean, but I
didn't either.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You know. That's is that I avoided all of that
because I had tremendous discipline.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, good judgment, right, you're smart.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now, that being said, even though nobody wanted to get
with me, I I don't think it is entirely true.
I was very afraid of this happening. My parents were
extremely effective growing up in making sure that I knew
that disappointing them was going to be a problem. I
wasn't scared of them per se, but I was scared
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of disappointing them. And my mom was funny about all this.
She was like, look, you know what you do, what
you got to do. She even bought me condoms. She
was like, you eat. And my dad actually hated that
because he felt like, of all people, he felt like
that was enabling me. And her thing was, well, I mean,
I'm a girl and I've never raised a boy before,
so i don't really know what I'm doing, but if
he's gonna do it, and if he's dumb enough to
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be a bit too embarrassed to buy them, then I'll
buy them, you know whatever, because it's not like I
can stop it if it's gonna happen. But my parents
were very effective in convincing me, hey, you do what
you want, but if you have a baby in high
school or before God forbid, this is going to be
a real problem for you, like you know, and but
again not a bad thing ever to have a baby,
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but like just so you know, it will change the
entire trajectory of your life of course, so just you know,
like if that, hey, you do what she do. But
like so it was never don't do it. It was
always just like, yeah, ah, that's not gonna be great.
You know it's not gonna be great, you know, for
for for the dreams that you have for yourself. So
again you're right, like the mom ignoring this because she
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doesn't want it to happen to her daughter, that's not
that's not a thing. Hey, hey, good morning, wellcome to
the Kikey's Court on the Fred Show.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Oh my goodness, good morning.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Hey what do you want to say? Welcome?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Come on, come on.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
You know I was just gonna say that. When I
was in high school, I never saw another pregnant teenager
and decided I want to follow those foots right right,
it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Twenty first century.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Everybody knows how hard it is to have a baby. Like,
kids are not stupid, people make mistakes and everything, like
mom needs if that's the girl's best friend. I think
she says since the first grade or something like people
make mistakes and it's going to be really bad. Idea
of you know what she's going to tell her daughter
if it happens to her, that your mom's not gonna
support you and all that stuff. So I think she
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just really needs to rethink her thought process.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, I agree, because I watched that sixteen and Pregnant stuff,
and I'm like, this is not it just don't look great. Hey, hey, hey,
how old is that kid, Dave? Let's talk about this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
She is about to be.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Five next week.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
How old are you?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I'm twenty five?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Okay, all right, well you're starting young too, but uh
it's all good.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I want but hi to her, and hi to you,
and thank you for calling, and have a good day.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
She was cute, you know. I'm like, wait a minute,
well do you know about this story?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Heyday? How does this has been hit home or something? Hey, Brenda,
good morning?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (07:15):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Good morning? I love you guys, thank.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You, We love you too. Kiky's Court, What say you?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I I think she should let her go to the
baby shower. I think if she's worried about like influences,
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They're everywhere.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And if that girl has a phone, I mean there's
no way she's not seeing videos or TikTok, Like the
influence is going to be everywhere. But with her best friend,
like she needs to feel support right now. Like that's
like the one thing, Brenda.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I see this the other way, Like if it were
my daughter, I might be like, hey, you know what
you want to help plan the baby shower.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You want to be involved, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, if you have a little job or something,
work in someplace, why don't you wyt you buy some
diapers with your money, and then why don't you go?
And why don't you go to the birth too? If
this she'll let you, honestly, and then and then why
don't you help for races? Like why don't you make
sure that you babysit and like be involved in a process?
I would lean into this, oh, because I'm nice. I
don't think most sixteen year olds are going to look
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at that and go after seeing what actually the work
that it actually requires in the process and the sacrifice,
and it's a wonderful thing. And I'm happy for this,
you know, girl or whatever, because there's nothing bad about.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Bringing a life into the world.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I don't know that I think that I would
want to do that after seeing it firsthand, being involved
in I might that might be close enough for me
as a sixteen year old y year old?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah right right?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I mean maybe she also, I mean if she's confident,
like the way she's been parenting her, and then she
should have a little more you know, faith that maybe
her daughter's like Okay, like maybe this isn't for me,
but if this was for you, you know, if you
can handle this, then that's.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Fine for you.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I think it's just trusting, like what you put into
your child, you know, I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, way too. I agree. Thank you, Brenda.
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You guys too, Yeah, I mean, shielding your kids from
all this stuff. I feel like that tends those tend
to be the kids that then get out in the
real world and then want to do all this stuff
because it's like, well, we pretended that that didn't happen,
you know. I remember the kids that like they weren't
allowed to drink, and they weren't allowed to go to
the parties, and they weren't allowed to do this. We're
allowed to do that, and they can't go on dates,
and they can't be all these different things.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And then.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
They get out in the real world and they want
to try all this stuff because they weren't supposed to
do any of it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They lose their mind at the first hand of freedom.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, it's funny because people used to say to
me when my sister was pregnant, you know, wait, till
you hold that little girl and then you're gonna want
it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that is not what happened. The exact opposite happened.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Actually, I held that little girl and I was like,
I love you so much, and I will get you
out of jail anytime, and I will buy you everything
that your mom won't and you can come see me
and I will. We can do everything that you're not
allowed to do. But then you're going back Southwest boarding group. Hey,
you're gone, like I put you on that thing. I'll
even come with you, hand you off, and then I'm
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going home alone to my band Aucelin. How you doing,
Good morning.
Speaker 9 (10:03):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So Kikey's Court, if you're just joining, I want to key.
I want to make Judge kiky you're on her. I
want to make sure I get this right. There's a
mom who has a sixteen year old daughter. Sixteen year
old daughter's friend is pregnant. They're planning a baby shower.
Mom is like, no, I don't want you at the
baby shower. I don't want you planning the baby shower.
I don't want you have anything to do with this.
And the debate is, is that even useful, and many
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of us in here, I think I think we all
would argue, No, what do you.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Think I think she should let her go.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
I actually had a friend who got pregnant fifteen, had.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Her baby at sixteen.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
I went through the whole thing with her, and you know,
and the baby was born, and I knew, I think
I want to have a.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Baby, y'all.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
My mom raised me differently. You know, people make mistakes,
but she told me, you know, like that's too young
to a baby. And when I thought how hard it was,
it was even like an figure reason why I didn't
want to have a babydd y'all.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think she lean into this. Yeah, No,
be involved in this process and see if that's what
you want for yourself.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Justin have a good day. Or we can just pretend
it is not happening, which it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Is and it always it always.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Will be right, you know. Emily, Hi, good morning, good morning.
Sorry what do you think? So?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
As I you guys were talking, I remember this actually
happened when I was in high school. Wasn't one of
my best friends, but a girl adjacently, you know, sixteen,
pregnant whatnot, and they threw her baby shower, and I remember
the parents judging the other parents, but no one didn't
let their child go. And I think that's the whole thing,
is the mom's going to cause bigger issues by stirring
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of drama and not letting her child go. And like
everyone said previously.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know, maybe this is a good I think, meaning
into it would be.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
An excellent way for UH to avoid teenage pregnancy because
it's someone who's the twenty nine and kids my friends
are having kids. The more I learn about pregnancy, and
less likely I want.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
To have a child.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, the repression thing is just not going to work.
I honestly think it's better just to I mean, it's
it's just the reality it's happening. Yeah, And I don't
necessarily think that. I don't know that, like to someone
else's point, your values and your priorities just change because
something's happening to somebody else. And it's not like there
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aren't babies being born all the time, and and you know,
things happening all the time that might remind her that that,
you know what I mean, Like, she's not going to
just block the idea that teen pregnancy could occur by
not letting her walk outside or go to parties or
whatever else.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Right, well, right, and like I mean, like you know,
I said, you know, she knows she's pregnant. Like so
I just what good it like making isolating her from
her best friend? What good is it going to do
at this point?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah? I agree, Thank you Lindsay or Emily, thank you,
have a good day.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And Debbie's defense. Thanks for Someone on the text said,
you know, they think that Debbie just doesn't want to
make it seem like it's fun or celebrate seem pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But we should celebrate the day, We should celebrate the life. Yeah,
and the fact that it's happening and she's gonna need support.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, And I'm sure she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I don't know this girl obviously, but I can't imagine
she feels great about.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
This, right you know.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean she's a kid, and she's having a kid,
and you know all the things that come with that.
So I think it would be super valuable for this
girl's spirit.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Okay, what happened happened?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So, like, why are we not supporting her? Lindsey, Hi, Lindsay,
Now it's Lindsayastern good morning.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
Hey guys. I totally think that she should let her
daughter go. I think I have a little bit of
a different perspective. I'm an older sister, but my younger
brother is twelve years younger than me, so he's in
high school right now, and I guess to sometimes like
have the privilege of like talking to him and talking
about things that he won't talk to my parents about.
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And he does things that are so empathetic for his
friends that he knows he would never do for himself.
He's really smart. He'll never like ever like touch things
that they want to do, but he'll still show up
for them because they're emotionally struggling or dealing with things
that he never wants to ever ever ever touch. But
it's just I think that's that she's showing up for
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her friends during a really really hard time because these
parents are just absolutely potentially laid into her. There's the
social stigma. These things are really really really hard, and
why can't the friends Like, why can't she show up
for her friend? And it's really really difficult time. As
the mom aster daughter, you know, are you just doing
this just to be supportive? Because I bet she is.
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This is really really hard and it's really really ugly
for from a lot of different perspectives, and it's a
really really difficult thing to see your friend go through.
And you know, I don't think anybody wants to be
in this situation. And I can only imagine that you,
as seeing your best friend go through that you want
to try and be there for them in any way
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that you possibly can. And a baby shower can be
really really fun, you know, from a kid's perspective, So
I can only imagine that they're going to try and
make this as fun as possible. So I think hopefully
mom can see that and can kind of like let
her daughter go just a little bit. But I don't
think they're going to try and you know, she's gonna
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not walk away from this and go I want this
because nobody wants this.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, and a.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Lot of people are saying this, But how about to
sit down with your daughter and have that conversation and
figure out what she thinks about this as opposed to
just blocking her. I mean, if she's like, I'm so
excited I want to have a baby now because of
all this attention, well then that's an opportunity to have
a further conversation. But I would imagine I don't know
any of the people involved in this. I would bet
that you're right, Jamie that if you ask the kid,
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the sixteen year old, you know, the daughter, why are
you doing this, it would be I'm supporting my friend.
It has nothing to do with wanting it for herself.
It's because it's the right thing to do. And in
that case, then you raise your kid, right and we
should be celebrating that. Yep, exactly, Thank you, Jamie. Yeah,
they are well. Some I wasn't but something. Ye have
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a good day, Jamie. I mean, some kids are dumb.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
There.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I why I keep using the wrong name? Whoever that
was im Jessic, Jennifer, I don't know who that was.
I keep using the wrong name. And I'm on a
lot of medicine. Okay, I can't be sick this week.
I can't.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I took everything this morning. I took everything I
could find.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
This little bit of this, a little bit of that, drink,
a little bit pop, a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
No, I can't. I just can't have it.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So anyway, to Jessica, Jamie, Janine, Adriana, Maria, Sam John,
everybody who called this morning, thank you. I'm sorry that
I'm like ten seconds behind everyone else. But another problem solved.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Kick in Debbie letter, go you raise the good girl.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Another problem, Yes girl, let's celebrate the thoughtfulness.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
The Entertainer Report is next. Oh, this is a good
song to play
Order a fresh show. It's court all rise, the honorable
Judge Kiki is here. Take it away, mad adam.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, let's get in the court room. It says, Hey, Kikey,
my name is Debbie. I'm a longtime Fred's Show listener
and a proud single mom.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Alright, it's not her fault. Then, I know it's somebody else.
You know the story, somebody else's fault, I know.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
She says.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My daughter is fifteen, a straight A student, and she's
very active in her school and community. My daughter has
also had the same best friend since first grade. However,
and unfortunately, her best friend is currently sixteen and pregnant. Obviously,
this has rocked our world, and I've been forced to
have some very deep conversations with my daughter about her
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best friend's choices. But now I've been faced with my
own choice. The girl's mom is giving her a baby shower,
which I think is insane. However, my daughter has been
asking me if she can attend the baby shower, and
I even call her trying to help plan the party.
I don't think any of this is appropriate, and I
don't want my daughter attending a baby shower and somehow
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thinking that this is okay? What should I do?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Are you guys with the jury eight five five five
nine one oh three five Judge Kik, I have to ask.
So we can't celebrate the birth of this baby even
though it was unplanned, potentially right, So I mean, I'm
just wondering about that, Like she doesn't get a shower
even though she's young and it wasn't probably on purpose,
we still don't just make the best of it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
According to Debbie, she's not comfortable with this. And I'm
not a parent, so I would love to hear from parents.
But my hot take is that allow your daughter to
go right, because in my mind, you've raised your daughter
a certain way. You've you've taught her a lot of
valuable lessons. She's a great child, a great student, and
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I don't think she should not be there for her
friend and be held accountable for her friend's decisions like
her friend did what she did, whatever the situation may be.
But you know your kid, you know your daughter, you've
raised her right. You hope that she would make the
great decisions in life. So I think you know this
is a part of life. Teenage pregnancy, it happens. It
happens to people and I think you trying to shield
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her from that may cause her to rebel. And I
think at this time in her friend's life too, they've
been fransince first grade. You know, her friend is probably
going through a lot of things emotionally and mentally, and
I think she really would need your daughter's support, and
I don't think you should take that away from them.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
At this point, I'm so caught up on this baby shower.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So I mean, the point of the shower is to celebrate,
of course, but then also you give gifts and diapers
and all that stuff, which the girl's gonna need. And
then the other thing is if we're just pretending this
didn't happen, because it's a valuable life lesson or a
difficult conversation to have with your own kid, if we're
just gonna pretend this didn't happen. And I go to
the baby, the baby is arriving. The baby's coming exactly,
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and so every time you see this woman and her baby,
that would be a reminder of the fact that this
happened young or was an accident or whatever happened. So
I don't know why we're pretending and it's not happening,
And not acknowledging and celebrating and making the best of it.
Because again, if if the thing is we're not gonna
celebrate this, we're gonna pretend it's not happening, We're not
going to the party, you shouldn't help. Well, then, I
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mean that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, she feels like it will be a bad influence
on her daughter.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
To already happened. It's happening, exactly, it's happening.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It doesn't make her a bad person either.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
If she's having a baby at this age, like you said,
it does happen, and she raised her daughter a certain way,
and her daughter has her own you know, mind, her
own you know, set of values, and that doesn't mean
that that's gonna happen to her as well. If you
attend a baby shower for your friend.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well that's like people who used to say that sixteen
and Pregnant on MTV was glorifying teen pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I watched the show. It didn't look good to me.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Okay, I didn't watch that show and go, man, I
would love to have that life.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Gonna say, it looks like they are crushing it.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
No, Yeah, tell your daughter to look at what follows
and she'll be fine. But also everything's an opportunity for
a discussion to learn.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, we can't just ignore things.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
But yeah, her have her sicker and see how much
she needs her support because it's not glamorous.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I don't know about you guys, but I had
friends that had children when we were sixteen and seventeen
years old, and I didn't. You know, just because they
made a decision or something happened in their life, that
doesn't mean that I'm going to go follow the leader.
I have to do it now too.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's right, Kiki. And yeah I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
No one that's actual me. But I mean, but I
didn't either.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You know. That's is that I avoided all of that
because I had tremendous discipline.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, good judgment, right, you're smart.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now, that being said, even though nobody wanted to get
with me, I I don't think it is entirely true.
I was very afraid of this happening. My parents were
extremely effective growing up in making sure that I knew
that disappointing them was going to be a problem. I
wasn't scared of them per se, but I was scared
(04:53):
of disappointing them. And my mom was funny about all this.
She was like, look, you know what you do, what
you got to do. She even bought me condoms. She
was like, you eat. And my dad actually hated that
because he felt like, of all people, he felt like
that was enabling me. And her thing was, well, I mean,
I'm a girl and I've never raised a boy before,
so i don't really know what I'm doing, but if
he's gonna do it, and if he's dumb enough to
(05:13):
be a bit too embarrassed to buy them, then I'll
buy them, you know whatever, because it's not like I
can stop it if it's gonna happen. But my parents
were very effective in convincing me, hey, you do what
you want, but if you have a baby in high
school or before God forbid, this is going to be
a real problem for you, like you know, and but
again not a bad thing ever to have a baby,
(05:33):
but like just so you know, it will change the
entire trajectory of your life of course, so just you know,
like if that, hey, you do what she do. But
like so it was never don't do it. It was
always just like, yeah, ah, that's not gonna be great.
You know it's not gonna be great, you know, for
for for the dreams that you have for yourself. So
again you're right, like the mom ignoring this because she
(05:54):
doesn't want it to happen to her daughter, that's not
that's not a thing. Hey, hey, good morning, wellcome to
the Kikey's Court on the Fred Show.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Oh my goodness, good morning.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Hey what do you want to say? Welcome?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Come on, come on.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
You know I was just gonna say that. When I
was in high school, I never saw another pregnant teenager
and decided I want to follow those foots right right,
it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Twenty first century.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Everybody knows how hard it is to have a baby. Like,
kids are not stupid, people make mistakes and everything, like
mom needs if that's the girl's best friend. I think
she says since the first grade or something like people
make mistakes and it's going to be really bad. Idea
of you know what she's going to tell her daughter
if it happens to her, that your mom's not gonna
support you and all that stuff. So I think she
(06:37):
just really needs to rethink her thought process.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, I agree, because I watched that sixteen and Pregnant stuff,
and I'm like, this is not it just don't look great. Hey, hey, hey,
how old is that kid, Dave? Let's talk about this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
She is about to be.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Five next week.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
How old are you?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I'm twenty five?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Okay, all right, well you're starting young too, but uh
it's all good.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I want but hi to her, and hi to you,
and thank you for calling, and have a good day.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
She was cute, you know. I'm like, wait a minute,
well do you know about this story?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Heyday? How does this has been hit home or something? Hey, Brenda,
good morning?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (07:15):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Good morning? I love you guys, thank.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You, We love you too. Kiky's Court, What say you?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I I think she should let her go to the
baby shower. I think if she's worried about like influences,
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They're everywhere.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And if that girl has a phone, I mean there's
no way she's not seeing videos or TikTok, Like the
influence is going to be everywhere. But with her best friend,
like she needs to feel support right now. Like that's
like the one thing, Brenda.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I see this the other way, Like if it were
my daughter, I might be like, hey, you know what
you want to help plan the baby shower.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You want to be involved, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, if you have a little job or something,
work in someplace, why don't you wyt you buy some
diapers with your money, and then why don't you go?
And why don't you go to the birth too? If
this she'll let you, honestly, and then and then why
don't you help for races? Like why don't you make
sure that you babysit and like be involved in a process?
I would lean into this, oh, because I'm nice. I
don't think most sixteen year olds are going to look
(08:08):
at that and go after seeing what actually the work
that it actually requires in the process and the sacrifice,
and it's a wonderful thing. And I'm happy for this,
you know, girl or whatever, because there's nothing bad about.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Bringing a life into the world.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I don't know that I think that I would
want to do that after seeing it firsthand, being involved
in I might that might be close enough for me
as a sixteen year old y year old?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah right right?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I mean maybe she also, I mean if she's confident,
like the way she's been parenting her, and then she
should have a little more you know, faith that maybe
her daughter's like Okay, like maybe this isn't for me,
but if this was for you, you know, if you
can handle this, then that's.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Fine for you.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I think it's just trusting, like what you put into
your child, you know, I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, way too. I agree. Thank you, Brenda.
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You guys too, Yeah, I mean, shielding your kids from
all this stuff. I feel like that tends those tend
to be the kids that then get out in the
real world and then want to do all this stuff
because it's like, well, we pretended that that didn't happen,
you know. I remember the kids that like they weren't
allowed to drink, and they weren't allowed to go to
the parties, and they weren't allowed to do this. We're
allowed to do that, and they can't go on dates,
and they can't be all these different things.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And then.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
They get out in the real world and they want
to try all this stuff because they weren't supposed to
do any of it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They lose their mind at the first hand of freedom.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, it's funny because people used to say to
me when my sister was pregnant, you know, wait, till
you hold that little girl and then you're gonna want
it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that is not what happened. The exact opposite happened.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Actually, I held that little girl and I was like,
I love you so much, and I will get you
out of jail anytime, and I will buy you everything
that your mom won't and you can come see me
and I will. We can do everything that you're not
allowed to do. But then you're going back Southwest boarding group. Hey,
you're gone, like I put you on that thing. I'll
even come with you, hand you off, and then I'm
(09:57):
going home alone to my band Aucelin. How you doing,
Good morning.
Speaker 9 (10:03):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So Kikey's Court, if you're just joining, I want to key.
I want to make Judge kiky you're on her. I
want to make sure I get this right. There's a
mom who has a sixteen year old daughter. Sixteen year
old daughter's friend is pregnant. They're planning a baby shower.
Mom is like, no, I don't want you at the
baby shower. I don't want you planning the baby shower.
I don't want you have anything to do with this.
And the debate is, is that even useful, and many
(10:25):
of us in here, I think I think we all
would argue, No, what do you.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Think I think she should let her go.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
I actually had a friend who got pregnant fifteen, had.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Her baby at sixteen.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
I went through the whole thing with her, and you know,
and the baby was born, and I knew, I think
I want to have a.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Baby, y'all.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
My mom raised me differently. You know, people make mistakes,
but she told me, you know, like that's too young
to a baby. And when I thought how hard it was,
it was even like an figure reason why I didn't
want to have a babydd y'all.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think she lean into this. Yeah, No,
be involved in this process and see if that's what
you want for yourself.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Justin have a good day. Or we can just pretend
it is not happening, which it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Is and it always it always.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Will be right, you know. Emily, Hi, good morning, good morning.
Sorry what do you think? So?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
As I you guys were talking, I remember this actually
happened when I was in high school. Wasn't one of
my best friends, but a girl adjacently, you know, sixteen,
pregnant whatnot, and they threw her baby shower, and I remember
the parents judging the other parents, but no one didn't
let their child go. And I think that's the whole thing,
is the mom's going to cause bigger issues by stirring
(11:43):
of drama and not letting her child go. And like
everyone said previously.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know, maybe this is a good I think, meaning
into it would be.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
An excellent way for UH to avoid teenage pregnancy because
it's someone who's the twenty nine and kids my friends
are having kids. The more I learn about pregnancy, and
less likely I want.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
To have a child.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, the repression thing is just not going to work.
I honestly think it's better just to I mean, it's
it's just the reality it's happening. Yeah, And I don't
necessarily think that. I don't know that, like to someone
else's point, your values and your priorities just change because
something's happening to somebody else. And it's not like there
(12:24):
aren't babies being born all the time, and and you know,
things happening all the time that might remind her that that,
you know what I mean, Like, she's not going to
just block the idea that teen pregnancy could occur by
not letting her walk outside or go to parties or
whatever else.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Right, well, right, and like I mean, like you know,
I said, you know, she knows she's pregnant. Like so
I just what good it like making isolating her from
her best friend? What good is it going to do
at this point?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah? I agree, Thank you Lindsay or Emily, thank you,
have a good day.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And Debbie's defense. Thanks for Someone on the text said,
you know, they think that Debbie just doesn't want to
make it seem like it's fun or celebrate seem pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But we should celebrate the day, We should celebrate the life. Yeah,
and the fact that it's happening and she's gonna need support.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, And I'm sure she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I don't know this girl obviously, but I can't imagine
she feels great about.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
This, right you know.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean she's a kid, and she's having a kid,
and you know all the things that come with that.
So I think it would be super valuable for this
girl's spirit.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Okay, what happened happened?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So, like, why are we not supporting her? Lindsey, Hi, Lindsay,
Now it's Lindsayastern good morning.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
Hey guys. I totally think that she should let her
daughter go. I think I have a little bit of
a different perspective. I'm an older sister, but my younger
brother is twelve years younger than me, so he's in
high school right now, and I guess to sometimes like
have the privilege of like talking to him and talking
about things that he won't talk to my parents about.
(13:57):
And he does things that are so empathetic for his
friends that he knows he would never do for himself.
He's really smart. He'll never like ever like touch things
that they want to do, but he'll still show up
for them because they're emotionally struggling or dealing with things
that he never wants to ever ever ever touch. But
it's just I think that's that she's showing up for
(14:20):
her friends during a really really hard time because these
parents are just absolutely potentially laid into her. There's the
social stigma. These things are really really really hard, and
why can't the friends Like, why can't she show up
for her friend? And it's really really difficult time. As
the mom aster daughter, you know, are you just doing
this just to be supportive? Because I bet she is.
(14:42):
This is really really hard and it's really really ugly
for from a lot of different perspectives, and it's a
really really difficult thing to see your friend go through.
And you know, I don't think anybody wants to be
in this situation. And I can only imagine that you,
as seeing your best friend go through that you want
to try and be there for them in any way
(15:02):
that you possibly can. And a baby shower can be
really really fun, you know, from a kid's perspective, So
I can only imagine that they're going to try and
make this as fun as possible. So I think hopefully
mom can see that and can kind of like let
her daughter go just a little bit. But I don't
think they're going to try and you know, she's gonna
(15:24):
not walk away from this and go I want this
because nobody wants this.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, and a.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Lot of people are saying this, But how about to
sit down with your daughter and have that conversation and
figure out what she thinks about this as opposed to
just blocking her. I mean, if she's like, I'm so
excited I want to have a baby now because of
all this attention, well then that's an opportunity to have
a further conversation. But I would imagine I don't know
any of the people involved in this. I would bet
that you're right, Jamie that if you ask the kid,
(15:49):
the sixteen year old, you know, the daughter, why are
you doing this, it would be I'm supporting my friend.
It has nothing to do with wanting it for herself.
It's because it's the right thing to do. And in
that case, then you raise your kid, right and we
should be celebrating that. Yep, exactly, Thank you, Jamie. Yeah,
they are well. Some I wasn't but something. Ye have
(16:10):
a good day, Jamie. I mean, some kids are dumb.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
There.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I why I keep using the wrong name? Whoever that
was im Jessic, Jennifer, I don't know who that was.
I keep using the wrong name. And I'm on a
lot of medicine. Okay, I can't be sick this week.
I can't.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I took everything this morning. I took everything I
could find.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
This little bit of this, a little bit of that, drink,
a little bit pop, a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
No, I can't. I just can't have it.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So anyway, to Jessica, Jamie, Janine, Adriana, Maria, Sam John,
everybody who called this morning, thank you. I'm sorry that
I'm like ten seconds behind everyone else. But another problem solved.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Kick in Debbie letter, go you raise the good girl.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Another problem, Yes girl, let's celebrate the thoughtfulness.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
The Entertainer Report is next. Oh, this is a good
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