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June 17, 2025 36 mins

Do you have any friends you met on the internet? Fred and the crew talk to the 13 who have! Plus do you trust self driving cars? Fred doesn't, listen to the crew rant about that! And, Fred tells Paulina to stop using Chat GTP as a tool for therapy!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:27):
What are you working on?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Okay, we got to talk the Diddy trial and that
journy number six that we were discussing yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm getting worried about Karen Read now now I'm getting worried. Yeah,
you promise taking too long. I promised yesterday that she
would be acquitted. It's taking too long. And now I
understand there's the same issue from the last trial with
the with the jury form. No, apparently there's something about
the jury form that makes it maybe appear as though
like I've not been on a jury. I've managed to

(01:54):
get out of it because I have a very important
job I have to do here at the radio station.
Actually it's not even true.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
They don't care. I just have never been drawn for it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
The times that I've gotten jury duty notices, you call
the number to see if you have to show up
the next day and knock on wood I've just never
been the guy you know saying, but you know, if
I walk in there, I don't even know what the
case is, I'll be like, guilty. But you sure we
haven't even told you. I don't not guilty. I want
to be in a jury. I don't be. I don't
because I don't know. It could take months.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, but you get all the tea. You're anonymous, but you.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do know you can't go to work. Sometimes they sequest.
Sometimes they make you stay at a hotel during the
live in a hotel.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I was gonna say so, Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Did these people can go home anyway.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
That's part of the problem. You want to be what
people I.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Would, so we can stare at you all day and they're.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Seeing some videos yesterday. Yeah. Anyway, there's something wrong with
it with the form. I guess where. And I did
see it, but I don't entirely understand and I didn't
like study it. But apparently there's a jury form that
they fill out with their verdict or their their selection
for the verdict, and it maybe doesn't clearly outline. And

(03:17):
if there's a lawyer listening who knows what I'm talking about,
then you can hit us up, but like it, Apparently
it's not. And this has happened in the last trial.
It's not super clear how they can decide on certain
cases or certain counts.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Rather, so it's confusing them, right.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Exactly, And so they wanted it to be different, And
of course Judge Bev said no, because Judge Bev.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
On the corruption.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, Aunt Bev, you mean whatever she is, Well, that's
what I'm saying. That's what those cops, those corrupt cops
call her, Aunt Bev. You shouldn't be able to call
your judge in a case ant. You shouldn't be that
close to your judge.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, I don't think, I mean I she did it.
I don't think she didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Well, I call her ant Kiki all the time, you know, yeah,
because when I go to court, I will only be
represent I will only go to Kigy's court.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
It always was my favorite.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah exactly, not.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Guilty, Yeah see boom exactly.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah, you promise, and I believed.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I did promise, and I believe too.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Christmas morning when.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I said it. Oh, I was checking all day yesterday
and like, where's the verdict?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Where's it? Come on, let's be done with this. But
the fact that a day day.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And two hours later they're still talking about This means
they don't agree, which means that it was not slam
dunk I slammed. I couldn't even imagine this taking longer
than twenty minutes.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
I got to get in there and talk to them.
I'm sick of it.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know what they
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
There were people on TikTok though, that were saying, They're like,
there's no way she gets off, and I'm going, how like,
what what did you see that I didn't see? I
was I was court TV. The situation room was my
living room. I watched as much of this as I
possibly could.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Paper's on the wall, you know, with like a little
point yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Case, yes, I came over. We briefed it, you know,
yes with the laser pointer.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I know you have the magic wall. Oh my god,
magic wall out. It takes apartment Shane, her boyfriend was
making for Katia the whole time, and we were just
cooking up bread and then with and we were doing
a full analysis on this case.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
I am not I'm worried, guys.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I don't think she did it, and I am worried too,
because this is taking too long. If it's taking it,
I honestly would have thought, in my stupid brain that
they would have been just waiting to get in that
little room so they could be like, you, guys, she
didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Nope, didn't do it. Are you sure? You sure?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let's sit here for an hour, just to make sure
that it looks like we're doing our job.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
It is cool, you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Like I'll tell you what. It's Friday. We only get
two hours left. Like, let's just kick it here for
a minute, and then we'll come back Monday. We'll fiddle
far and around for an hour or two again. Maybe
don't feed us, maybe they'll feed us lunch. It'll look
like we re did the thing. But we already know.
We're all going home on Monday. It's done.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
That's nice to do about somebody's life, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's not. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Now I'm starting to think that that maybe it's not
slam dunkn you slam dunk anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I'm really worried about him.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Can I read to you miss trials?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh yeah, they can keep doing it and they can
keep trying it. Oh, but that was part of this
was like the form, if I understand correctly, the form
and of Karen read case didn't make it clear that
they could how they could vote on certain cases, or
that she could be not guilty on counts. Right keep
saying cases counts that she could be not guilty for
some of it, maybe guilty for some of it. And

(06:37):
so what they're arguing is that some of these that
she was found not guilty for, or she should have
been found not guilty for it, then this would be
double jeopardy. So some of the counts she shouldn't be
retried on because she's already I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's all very confusing. Fred's show is on Fred's Biggest
Stories of the Day.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, we avoid political stories, but I mean, a deal
is a deal, and I have a deal for you all.
And this is not an endorsement. I'm not being paid
for this. I'm just covering the news. I'm a journalist
in this. In this particular segment, I am what's his
face from ABC that everyone fantasizes over David Muhror, My.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Guy, Yes, David Muhror, She's hot.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Now I got to talk about this about David Muir.
And because I guess they. I guess they ABC moved
buildings or something. I don't I don't know, but yesterday
I see a video it was from Good Morning America.
Maybe Good Morning America moved into a new building with
ABC News, I don't know, but they're in a new space.
And so Laura Spencer, the blondehaired lady. I don't know

(07:38):
why she urges me so much, but she drives me nuts. Anyway,
she and somebody, Oh, she and Sam Champion, the meteorologists guy,
both with bleachs blonde. Here they go up to see
David Muir and the new digs. And so they're walking
through like the newsroom of ABC News, and all over
the walls are like ten feet tall murals of David
Muhr all should all over the like and I'm not

(08:01):
talking about like when Lester Holt retired a couple weeks ago,
they had like behind the scenes of his office and
like down the hall of NBC News were like little
framed pictures of Lester like in Iran and like you know,
Lester on that chopper and like you know Lester with
some kids, and you know what I mean, like man
of the People, Like all.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
The stories we've covered.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, these were literally like fifteen feet tall murals of
like David Muir posing in a war scene and it's
like him looking hot with his biceps. But obviously, but
I'm going, why do we need that? Like that's very vain,
don't you think? And I'm not sure that it was
his decision, but like, what are we doing here? You're
a news anchor, you're you're a journalist. Why do we

(08:44):
have fifteen feet tall posters of you?

Speaker 5 (08:46):
It's like Keke said, like I like to look at
pretty things.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes, and he is. He is a very pretty guy.
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
So cancel the mirrors for you, say, well, that was
the point I was just about to make, is that
you wouldn't even know walking in here that any of
us work here.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
They put us in a box with no windows.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's design, But like we're the problem, Like there's well, yeah,
they can't put it. They put a fifteen foot mural
up a metal I'll be peeling that thing off in
six months. So it's like, at the rate we're going now,
that might be why they're not putting up murals of
the friendship because I don't have a contract, So that

(09:24):
might be why otherwise maybe there would be a big
mural of us. But you wouldn't even know, You wouldn't
know who works here if you walked in this office,
you walk in David Muir's office, that David Murray is here, yes,
but the guy it's like it's like fifteen foot tall murals,
like a bunch of them, and he just keeps walking
by them like they're not there.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Like, yeah, it looks like my living room at home.
My mom's got pictures you know, from my high school.
She got mirrors with David Muir too. Like, Mom, I
can't go anywhere with at this David Muir guy, she says.
Whil anyway back to journalism. I got a deal for
you guys. The Trump Organization is getting into the mobile
phone business. The company behind President Trump's Business Enterprises unveiled

(10:09):
Trump Mobile, which includes a smartphone and new cellular service
expected at launch later this year. The announcement coincides with.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
The tenth anniversary of him announcing his first presidential campaign,
and under the flagship plan, the forty seven plan unlimited talk,
text and data for forty seven forty five a month, okay,
and a five hundred dollars phone as well.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So, hey, a deal is a deal.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean, when's the last time you look to see
what you're paying for your mobile service?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I have a Facebook running right now. Well, what's funny
is a few people in the office this morning, Like
we were talking about it in the hallway and then
someone's like, I'm like, honey, you looked, you looked, you
shopped it. Don't tell me you didn't go see how
much it was?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Does it only have like truth social on it? Like,
can you only get you can only.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Call Republicans too?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
You can if you have any liberal frenzy, and actually
it's not able to connect with them.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
I feel like I can't just do whatever I want
on there.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, it's giving me.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
You can only use true social, you can only watch
Fox News, right, but I hate I'll tell you what though,
forty nine to ninety that's a deal.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think I pay a lot more than that. So yeahay.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Tesla is having some issues this morning in full self
driving mode, one of their cars got hit by a
train because it went around a barrier. A Tesla Model three,
reportedly in Elon Musk's full self driving mode, drove around
a crossing barrier and became stuck on train tracks in
Pennsylvania before being struck by an oncoming train. The driver

(11:39):
was able to safely exit the vehicle before the train
hit the car. The Tesla driver claimed that the vehicle
was engaged in this mode, but it became stuck on
the train tracks. And this raises questions about the capabilities
and limitations of the autonomous driving technology. And I still
want to know. If you're behind the wheel and your
car is driving itself and it goes around a barrier
onto a train track where trains are coming, at what

(12:00):
point do you say, huh, maybe I should see hit
the brakes right, this doesn't look good to me. Maybe
I should not, But no I did. We're along for
the ride, I guess.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
And if you're in a way mo or whatever, you're
in the backseat. Yeah, so you really can't do anything
like you can't get no.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, you're driving the things driving you to your death.
That's final destination.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but I can honestly see
myself if I had one of those Tesla's with the
self driving mode, I think at first I'd pay attention,
and I don't think it would take very long before
I'm you know, needle pointing and you know on my
I mean you you would have a full TikTok studio
in the car. I imagine if you didn't have to
focus on keeping the car straight keep telling me, I know,

(12:44):
I mean, my god, the amount of content you would
produce would triple.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Get ready with me cooking recipes in the back seat.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
You'd be back there tepping yackiy.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
The don't think, but they would drive right into a
train track and you wouldn't even know what happened because
you're in the middle of a production. You're on take three. Yeah, yeah,
I know, I just don't know. It's like, why are
we not. You're driving a large metal object. You're in
it like maybe sort of pay attention, like kind of
out of the side of you, or maybe like, I
don't know, put the newspaper down for a second to
see where the thing is driving. This is for you, Pauline,

(13:13):
and only for you. Stanford University researchers one that popular
chat bot therapists from apps like character dot, Ai, Replica,
and know Me are encouraging dangerous delusions and self harm
in your abusers. Now, you don't subscribe to any of
these things. You just go to the free or actually
it's your friends chet GPT subscription and then you type

(13:35):
in there you know what you what you're seeking. As
far as mental health advice, I do that and oh no,
I know, I know.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Yeah, And yesterday I asked for advice about uh, how
do you how do you tell a friend something? It
was like ridiculous what I wrote? Like it was, what
did you write? It was just like, how do you
ask a friend like or telephone that you really don't
want to like spend time with them?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Like I know it's mean, but I'm like.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
Just super busy and I've but how do I kindly
tell them that? Because it's always the same thing with
me of being busy, but it really is. And I'm like,
how do I kindly tell them that I would rather
do anything else like walk my dom to hang out
with them, but in a kind way.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
That's why we texted me yesterday. Oh my god, I'm sorry, Jason,
she'd rather do anything but hang out with me. But
what did chad GYP tell you? Did chad GPT tell
you to do?

Speaker 8 (14:22):
Well?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
CHET was like honesty.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
She's all about honesty, and I don't like that because
I don't think honesty always wins.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
And she said to be honestly she sucks. Yeah, she said,
to be honest die in that situation.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Let this person know that I truly am busy at
the moment, but I will get back to them when
I can.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And I was like, this is this is stupid, but.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
You don't want to be friends with them.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
It sounds like, yeah, that's where I was going with it,
but Chad wasn't catching my drift.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay, Yeah, So apparently they tested this and bot readily
supported a teen's grandiose levels and even romantic or sexual scenarios,
failing to challenge risky behavior or steer users towards real help.
In one chilling case, Florida teen died by suicide after
chatting with a bot posing as a licensed therapist. Another

(15:05):
teen with autism grew hostile following viral advice from a
chetbot claiming to be a psychologist. Researchers found that bots
reinforced delusions in about sixty eight percent of trials, basically
cheering users on rather than guiding them to support. Experts
say that no kids under eighteen should be using AI companions.
They reinforce harmful thinking instead of offering real therapy. The

(15:27):
APA is urging regulators to step in, saying that chatbot
empathy often comes with the cost of real mental health safeguards.
So we're not driving our cars now, we're trusting a
computer to tell us how to live our lives.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Paulina, come on, I mean, like.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Yes, please seek professional help by all means. And if
you're an ASKTGBT like ask you like what's for dinner?
Don't ask you for like what should I do regarding
my mental health? That's scary even though that's what you do,
not a little bit. Yeah, therapist, yeah, well, sprinkle of
advice yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And and Wendy's is upsetting many many people. This morning,
their newest ad starts with a loud ring doorbell chime,
and animal owners are not happy and they're complaining about it.
The sound triggers dogs to bark and race to the
front door, turning the ad into a nightmare for animals.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I guess this is fuel now for the dogs. Is
happening to you? Lux goes crazy, he.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Loses his mind when he has a ring doorbell on TV.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
So they're mad about this. I don't think you should
put sirens. I don't think you should put doorbells in commercial.
Sirens you should not put in commercial Now. If I'm
driving out of the street in my car and there's
a siren, I'm looking on where is it? I got
to pull over. This thing's going to run me over,
And then I find out there's just on the radio.
You shouldn't be able to do that. The ring doorbell
chime needs to go. He gets my dogs all riled up.

(16:42):
Somebody step another pet owner chimed in my daughter's little French.
He goes nuts. You can't catch it with the mute.
And people are very mad saying that when he's just
traumatizing dogs everywhere. So we got people getting farted on victims.
We got victim dogs this morning. We got people on
chat be tea trying to get therapy therapized. We got

(17:03):
people into not paying attention. But they're texting right now
from a model. Why as we talk about this, I
hope you got your hands on the wheel. I can
nothing can happen to you. But at least we got
cheap cell phone service as long as there's no branding
on it, as long as.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
No one's ever gonna know phone was worse, there would
be sides toilet, there would be indications It's National mascot Day,
National Eat your vegetables Day, a National root beer Day.
Today with Callen's Entertainment Report, He's on the Freas Show,
a follow.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Up to what we were talking about yesterday. A mail
jur that jury number six was booted from the Diddy
trial after the judge said that he lied to be
on the panel about his living situation.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Diddy's lawyers argued that getting rid of him would.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Reduce the panel's diversity, but the judge said, nope, not today.
Elsewhere in the trial, things took a wild turn yesterday
as the jury was shown graphic footage of his alleged
freak offs.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Their reactions said it all.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
One looked away, another covered her mouth, and some shifted
uncomfortably in their seats as the explicit videos played. The
prosecution is expected to rest soon and the defense is
up next, so we'll obviously keep you updated.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
On all that.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Luke Colmbs is now the only artist with four Diamond
certified country songs, as he just added she Got the
Best to Me to his list, which is my favorite
song by him. The certification comes from the group responsible
for certifying songs as gold, platinum, multi platinum, and Diamond.
Diamond certified certified songs are given to songs or albums
that passed ten million certified units, which is how they

(18:42):
measure it. Caine Brown and Florida Georgia Line are the
only other country stars with multiple Diamond certified songs.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I think they each have two.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
As for Luke's songs, Beautiful, Crazy, Hurricane, when it Rains, it.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Pours, and she got the best of Me.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Now all hit that milestone, so congrats to him and Cleveland.
Newlywed Jackie and her groom skipped their whole wedding reception
in a full gown and tucks to catch Meghan Maroney
live at a venue called Jacob's Pavilion right after saying
I do in town. There their wedding planner teamed up
at the venue to make it happen, and so literally
this was their first dance, but it was at a concert,

(19:19):
and it happened as Meghan played Girl in the Mirror.
The couple swayed down a lit walkway, cameras flashing, and
some people in the crowd were even crying. So that's
a very cool first dance to go right to a concert.
Hit your favorite song, dance and then go back and party.
That's like that would be a dream.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
By the way, if you want to, as I like
to say, and hance.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Your listening experience, tickle more than just your ear holes,
you know, entertain your eyes as well.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
You can go to.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
YouTube and subscribe and search the Fred Show and we
will be right there, our little faces just out.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Of my ear holes.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, Zack state five five three five. I love my model.
Why oh okay, is it a humble break? It's a
humble break. I think full self driving mode more than
most Chicago drivers, but not enough to have a steering
wheel in front of me. My anxiety wouldn't let me right.
So you like you stare at the steering wheel like

(20:13):
you look at it, right, I mean, look, it's cool,
Like that would be cool to be like, okay, here
I'm going I'm going to work and then push the
button and then I just but I think, And that
was my point earlier. Is I think maybe for like
the first I don't know a few times a couple
of weeks, I would I would be very vigilant. I'd
be paying attention to it, and then once I trusted him,
I'd be over here, you know, investing in the stock market. Yep,

(20:34):
over here, you know, putting legos together or something. I mean,
look think at the time, but we would get back
if we didn't have to pay any attention to driving.
But the problem is then the thing drives you into
a lake. We're onto a train track with a train coming,
and you were sitting there watching it all happen, but
you weren't because you weren't paying attention to That's that's
a meat problem, not a you problem. I'm sure you're
very vigilant and paying attention to everything. Me I wouldn't

(20:55):
take me long and I'd be off doing something else. Sane. Yeah,
I want to know eight five five one three five.
I mean, this is kind of an obscure one, but
I'm just curious because I saw this this morning. Have
any of you or has anyone Do you have a
friend that you've never met, like a friend, like someone
that you either like In this case, this is the

(21:16):
thing I saw this morning.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's on Reddit.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
It was a picture of a man and a woman
together and it said met my internet friend today for
the first time. We started chatting online in two thousand
and one, when we were both sixteen, So that that's
what twenty four years ago. Twenty four years ago they
started chatting online. They never met. They kept in touch
for twenty four years wow, and they went to an
Iron Maiden concert together. I guess they're Iron Maiden fans.

(21:42):
But like, I don't know, is it is it? Maybe
I don't know someone you talk to, like another branch
of your office that you've talked to you for a
long time, never seen, which I guess in this day
and age, is hard to do. People can FaceTime or
you know whatever, but video chat all the all the
different zoom meetings and whatever else. But like, I don't know,
have you ever chatted with someone played video games? You
ever had a pen pal?

Speaker 4 (22:05):
I've made friends on Instagram, but then I've ended up
meeting them like a year or so later, but I've.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Did you meet them? You they listened to the show
they DM you?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
And just over time, like realized we had similar interests
and I don't know, I felt like I could trust
her and then we met up in person and ended
up being a great friend.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
She was an ex murderer. Yeah it's a shame.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, but you still visit her in prison right now,
that your friends.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Well, if she was an ex murderer, wouldn't I not
be alive to tell the tale?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well? I think unfortunately she wasn't able to get to.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
You, she spared me.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, because you were friends.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Well that's why you meet in public always.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I agree, But like, is it one of those things.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Is it like between glass when you go to see her,
or is it like across the table. Are you able
to like, you know, sit physically, or is it is
it like a video chat on the phone.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I was like, when you go to.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
See her and you know, I usually bake a cake,
put some treats in there for her.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Oh you know, it's always her birthday.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Sneak stuff man.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, none of you though, because I mean,
this is crazy, like to keep it, I mean, especially now.
And I don't know if these people live in you know,
wildly different parts of the world or something like, you know,
really crazy extreme distance. But I mean, I just think
it's it's amazing to think that people have been able
to keep in touch for this period of time and
never meet.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Granted, when you're sixteen, you meet someone on a video game,
you don't have any money. You know, you're not probably
not thinking like, oh, I'm gonna be talking to this
person in twenty five years. But I just I wonder
if this has ever happened to anybody that's a really
long time.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
It has definitely happened.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
I feel like now like we did the tour, and
that's when I met a lot of the thirteen that
we've been frands for over the last two years that
I've been here, and then you finally get to put
a face to the name. But it's a few that
I haven't. Like there's this one friend online named c Style.
All I know is her Instagram handle.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I don't know her real name, Lady lyftdriver. I don't
know her real name.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
My friend, my friend, So it's like, yeah, like, and
I know those people write for me on social media,
rite for all of us on social media, but it's
like I've never met them in real life, but I
consider them for him.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, I mean, there are radio people that I've chatted
with for years and years and years and never met
in person. Yeah, that's true, But I mean I don't
know if they're friends. Some of them are. There are
people that I see very very rarely, but I know
when I see them, I know what's going on in
their lives because of Facebook. That's the only reason I
still have Facebook. I can quickly scroll through and I
can get the birthdays. I can hit the birthdays quickly,

(24:28):
that's right. And then because that's important, I can and
I rarely will message them on Facebook. I'll cheat and
I'll go to Facebook to see if it's the birthday,
and then I'll text them, and then people are like,
how did you remember?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I'm on top of it, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
But then there's other people that like I'll catch up
with them after years and I already know all the
things they are telling me because I saw on Facebook.
But I know them, like I can't think of anyone
who I've been quote unquote friends with for you know,
years and never actually like Matt Heylissa, you have an
internet friend?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Really?

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Multiple? Okay? Are you a gamer?

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
How does this come about? No?

Speaker 8 (25:08):
In like twenty seventeen, I was at a friend's house
and used her PlayStation to play a game just once,
and I met people who I really liked, and we
ended up following each other on social media and we
talked pretty often. They give me tips on how to
do my hair or makeup and I've never met them.
They live in an entirely different state.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Now, what prevents you from just I was going to
say bags fly free on Southwest, but they don't anymore. So,
I mean what prevents you have it on Spirit and
you know, ducking from you know, ducking for cover from
the you know fights in wrestling that happen on Spirit
sometimes and just going to see these people like it's
it's you know, modern air travel is amazing.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
Yeah, never genuinely have never thought about it. I think
I'm just okay with them being my phone ferns. And
I think it's really common for like people in gen
Z to have these friends that they've never met, that
they used or met through social feek media or other
like gaming.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Okay, yeah, I mean it's kind of crazy. I think
eventually that my curiosity would get the best of me.
I'd want to meet the people like I'd want to
see that they're real. But I don't know, maybe it's
boundaried and doesn't really matter if.

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Them I choose to believe and hope to not get catfished.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, okay, thank you, listen to have a good day.
Problem This is is a random story. But I I
growing up, I had a family member who and I
don't think they do I don't know what they do anymore.
But like this person had like a receptionist for their office,
but the receptionist worked in like another office, and you

(26:39):
hired this company to answer the phone for you, but
they like weren't in the same office as you. Oh yeah,
so like this so one day and so I would
call this person regularly and the same person would answer
the phone. Never saw this person ever talk to them.
They were in the same city, but like they worked
in a different office, and then they would transfer the
call or whatever every day for years. This woman, I
can't remember her name. And one day I'm in a

(27:01):
doctor's office and my sister's there and my mom's here's
a therapist. My parents are getting divorced, and I hear
this woman talking behind the desk and it's her. It's
the woman who's been answering the phone for years and
years and years and years. And like I was a kid,
so it was always oh hi, Christopher, this whole thing,
and my sister. I was watching my sister for a
period of time and she was kind of acting up,
and this woman stands it from the desk and starts

(27:22):
screaming at us to like be quiet, and I like,
she didn't obviously know that, like this little boy who's
like birthdays she celebrated and all this stuff, like we'd
never seen each other.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
She had no idea.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
We were just disrupting her like work, I guess. And
I wanted to be like, hey, Karen, it's me. You know,
I'm the kid who's been calling and talk to so
and so for you know, years and years, but I
didn't have the heart to do it. But for some reason,
I think about that story all the time because I
was like, because this is back before you would have
any way of knowing what these people look And I
had no idea who this person was. It was just
you call every day and you talk to it. Hey

(27:54):
can I talk to so and so? Yeah, sure, hold on.
Every single day you make that call and it's like,
here's this person. And then she screamed at me. So
it really hurt my feelings and upset me. But then
it's funny, is like a few hours later I called
talk to this person, and there's the lady.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Okay, it's so good to talk to you, and I'm like,
it wasn't two hours screaming at me.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
And I know if I'd said something to her like hey,
I think I know you, I'm so and so, and
I would have changed everything.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
But whatever. Holly, Yes, Hi, Holley, Hi, it's Holly.

Speaker 10 (28:28):
Holly.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Sit, guys, it's Holly. This is exciting. I'm waiting for you.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You have an internet friend through gaming and you've never
met this person.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
What's the story? Correct?

Speaker 11 (28:41):
So I've been playing this game, it's called the Old
School Rooms game. I played it on and off for
about fifteen years, and I hate so many like internet
friends that you mentioned. I have a friend in Arizona
in the UK, and it's just like a great like
bond that we have with the game. But you know,
we all live in a different like staying.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Our country interesting, and so these these friendships, like they
you're appeased by them only going so far, like they
don't need to go much further, Like you don't need
to run and meet these folks, like it's it's good
enough the way it is. They could be they could
be anyone doing anything and it doesn't matter because it's
just it's boundary.

Speaker 11 (29:19):
I mean, honestly, if I was like, let's say, for example,
though friend I have in Arizona that plays through the game,
if I were ever to visit, I wouldn't mind saying, hey,
let's you know, meet up, because it's like a bunch
of us that are like, well, I'm in my mid
thirties playing this game, and you know, it's like everyone
resonates because we're in the same age, rage playing this
game for fifteen twenty years, and it's just you know, again,

(29:42):
this is something that's fun.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, I think sometimes like the idea of compartmentalizing a
friendship and like having it be in its own lane,
its own little like this is my friend from the
game and we talk about some stuff, but like that's
the expectation, because like, maintaining friendships as an adult can
be hard, and I think it's why adults, many adults
wind up with fewer friendships because it's a lot of work.
But now you got this sort of friend but there's

(30:05):
no real expectation and you're you're you're vibing over the game.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
So it's like it's kind of a nice thing. I
don't know, thank you, Holly.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
Yeah, you don't have to talk about stress and like
all work sucks. It's just you gone on you play.
You're like, hey, you know, what are you doing in
the game, and you're just kind of like making that
own little world. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Okay? Yeah, fair enough? All right, Well thank you, Holly,
thank you. We have a good day. Hey, trichd Hi.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Tris, So you have an internet friend group and you're
all meeting this weekend.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
That's exciting. Well, how did you make the deal?

Speaker 12 (30:40):
We met on an online auction website for what shopping?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
What were you bidding on?

Speaker 10 (30:47):
I was bidding on I don't know, craft supplies.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, so you're bidding on this. There's like a chat
feature in there or something.

Speaker 12 (30:55):
There's a chat feature, and you know, I kind of
started out with everyone sort of harassing each other, you know,
cheesing and picking on each other and being really inappropriate,
and we all find out we have the same that
there appropriate of humor.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
You craft is a nasty okay? Is it all women?
Is it all women meeting? Trish?

Speaker 10 (31:19):
It's all women.

Speaker 12 (31:19):
There's for women, ones in Kansas, ones in Ohio. I'm
in North Sustiniana, and the last one is in Florida.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
And where are you meeting? And what's the agenda? And yeah,
what what sort of activities are we going to partake in?
What's sort of shenanigans?

Speaker 10 (31:33):
Well I don't know, that's all.

Speaker 12 (31:35):
We left it all up for chance. So we're all meeting.

Speaker 10 (31:40):
I got myself West tickets ahead of time, so I
my bags a sign free.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Hell yeah, you got it before the deadline. That's right. Now,
hold on, Church, I have to ask what everybody's wondering.
Is there a sexual component to this?

Speaker 10 (31:53):
Well that's to be determined. We left it opened.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now hold on, I have to ask again. And you
can tell me.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
You can tell me this is too far, but you
know me. I don't have limits. I have no filter.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Are you? Are you? Are you a lesbian? Are you?
This is your interest and it's not.

Speaker 12 (32:07):
I am married and I have three children, who I
tell you never go meet up with people from the internets.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
So down does your husband know that you might go?
And you know, get it on in the day's end
somewhere we're all.

Speaker 10 (32:18):
Staying at one of their houses.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh okay, So there's all four of you, none of
you have met each other before, and you're all flying
somewhere to meet at and you're going to stay in
a person's home that you've never met. Also, like, so
this is wow.

Speaker 10 (32:34):
Way way outside of my comfort zone. I'm doing it.

Speaker 12 (32:37):
Anyway, And it's happening on Friday Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
And when do you get back? When are you supposed
to be? Can someone check it? Can one of us
have can one of us have your location?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Please?

Speaker 10 (32:51):
My coworkers are convinced I'm getting killed.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
How strong are your organs? I think there might be
some organ harvesting going on here.

Speaker 12 (33:00):
Wow, I'm the tough one in the groups, so I
have the least amount of fear. This is Can we
call you back after ye when you get back midnight
Tuesday night.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm going to put you on holding. Get your phone
because I want to hear how this. You have to
promise to tell us how this all ends up. But
I want to know if you're if you're straight, where
does the sexual ambiguity, like where does where does that
component come in? Have you guys talked about all like
just sort of getting it on together.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
No, we have not.

Speaker 12 (33:27):
I'm not to be any of that. I mean, she
has a wife and teenagers.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
So she has a husband two teenagers. So I don't
know that it'll be.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Gone, But you didn't set it down like when I said, hey,
crafting friends this weekend and wherever. And I asked you
if there was a sexual component to this. You didn't
say absolutely not. You said to be determined. So what
makes you do?

Speaker 10 (33:48):
You never know what can happen?

Speaker 12 (33:50):
Right?

Speaker 10 (33:50):
I mean you never know what can happen.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Just make sure there's a safe word, okay, and also drinking.

Speaker 12 (33:58):
And shopping most like, wow, you don't know when involved
any you don't know?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, Well we're gonna put you a whole trip, put
on the calendar to call her on Tuesday or Wednesday,
either way. I got to know what happens here. You know,
we're praying for you. Okay, thank you?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Okay, all right, say I go in a minute.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I want to know why she's a straight, married woman
with a bunch of others straight. And I say to you,
is there a sexual component to this visit? And she's like,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Why don't we know? We do know. We're just not
saying more. She's just open. Whatever happens, you're going to
feel the vibe.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
The other three Wow, capters man, it turned out this weekend, Hey.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Beth She looked at this.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I thought this was an obscure topic. And you guys
are blowing me up. Bethany, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
So you have an internet friend and now you're engaged.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
Yeah. So we we met in twenty nineteen. I actually
had I was in another relationship at the time, but
we were in We're both in an online group of
people who work in hotels and he is actually in Australia.
He's Australian, and we started talking because he was helping

(35:14):
me with an issue I had with the system at work.
And here we are six years later.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Wow, and you've met.

Speaker 9 (35:23):
Oh yeah, I went. I lived in Australia for a
year because of him, and he came to visit me
like it was COVID. So we could only talk online
for like three years.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
And this was real, Bethany, right here.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So what happened after how long of chatting did you say,
I'm going to Australia to meet you.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
Well, he came to us. He came to America.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Okay, okay, yeah, good for you.

Speaker 9 (35:52):
I won't be flying there again by myself, that's for sure,
because that was a terrible flight. But yeah, he came here.
I think like three years after we started talking.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Okay, wow, so you talk for three years and then
was it every you're engaged now? But like, was it
when you finally saw him after three years of communicating?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Was it everything you hoped it would be.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
Yes, it was a.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
Little awkward at first because I think it was just
like so much of a lead up.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
But yeah, a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure
after three years. I would think for you to be
in front of him and him in front of you
and hope that it matches.

Speaker 9 (36:30):
Yeah. Luckily it did because otherwise he I don't know
what would have happened. He was going to be staying
with me for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So oh my gosh. Well, congratulations and thank you for calling.
Thank you, have a good day. Okay, Well, a lot
of people do this. I guess. I can't wait for Wednesday.
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