June 20, 2025 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to the Live Nation. According to one judge, a taco
is a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh not this one. A taco is a sandwich eight
three five, you can call it text the same number.
I mean, let's have it out. Let's you know.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
This is a forum for the most important conversations to
be had in society. That's what you can you can
count on us for that. And this is that is
a taco a sandwich because a judge says that it
is a restaurant. Tour said that he has in battling
over what type of establishment was being built and going
into a now eleven thousand square foot strip Mall restaurant space. Previously,
(01:08):
the commission that I guess oversees what can go, whar
zoning or whatever, denied a famous Taco from being located
in the Strip Mall, partially based on a written commitment
that he accepted with a nearby neighborhood association limiting any
restaurant that did not offer alcohols to not allowed to
receding and only sold made to order or subway style sandwiches.
(01:29):
The idea behind the agreement, according to court documents, was
to keep National fast food, burger and Chicken chains out
of the Strip Mall.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
They didn't want them there.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So the court agrees with this guy the tacos and
burritos are Mexican style sandwiches and that the original written
commitment does not restrict potential restaurants to only American cuisine
style sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, fam, that's a torta. But a torte is a sandwich,
That's what I'm saying. That's a Mexican sandwich, not a taco.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, this guy really wanted to be in the Strip Mall,
and I guess you could have sandwiches in the Strip Mall,
but you couldn't have tacos, and so this guy Nope,
he came to the rescue and said he showed well.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He had to do what he had to do right
to get his little business going. He has three towels
for the business.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Okay, But whatever is a taco? I mean, are we
are we calling it? I think it's a stretch. But
a tortilla, a hardened tortilla, is still a form of bread,
is it not.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The bread needs to be separated from me. For it
to be a sandwich, there has to be two pieces.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
As opposed to the one. Yeah, because like something folding, yea,
that's my and you get a stub.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They're still connected, right because they didn't cut basically, that's true,
like a HOGI is not necessarily Maybe I thought they,
is it? They don't always somebody cutting the bread down
the middle. Yeah, some sandwiches they don't cut all the
way through like someboy used to do a well cut.
If you remember that, they used to cut the bread.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Out of the middle. They used to cut from the
top and then stick this stuff in there. Tacoh, yeah,
that's a taco.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Then people say that cheeseburgers or whatever can be a
sandwich because there's two pieces of bread.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Cheeseburger is a sandwich. Burger, by definition, is a sandwich.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, go to a restaurant and order a burger sandwich.
Can see what the waitress says, sandwich.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But just because you wouldn't say it that way doesn't
mean by definition it's not that. But the meaning of
a sandwich is two or more slices of bread or
a split roll.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
A filling in between.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So how is a How is a curved dried tortilla
not the same as a split roll?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It is a tortilla, is a split roll? Hold on
Laura's Laura's a chef.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Laura calls us a lot of times, text has called it, Laura,
You're a chef, So what what say you? Is a taco?
A sandwich? Laura calls all the time, what it is
you're saying?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It is? Yes, a sandwich is a vehicle with things
inside of it. A cornshell, right.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So it's a cornshell, which is a which was originally pliable, right,
which a vehicle, which is a vehicle, which is a
vehicle that Enshuran can drive his song through. Right Yeah, okay,
all right, So Laura says that that she agrees with
this cord case. All right, thank you, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Thank you too.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now let's be honest. You said it, Paulina, like, this
guy just wants to be in that strip mall. So
he was making whatever legal argument he could. But a
judge agrees with it. So whether he agrees with it
or not, we don't know. He just wanted to make
sure that the ordinance didn't apply to him, so he
got a judge who agree with him. But see, here
we go, Carrie, you're gonna do this. Now we're gonna
we're gonna take it one step further, aren't we?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Carry? Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
We had a big debate at my work one day
about whether or not a hot dog is a stand place.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
By definition it is. By definition of hot dog is
a sandwich?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It is.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'm sorry, guys, yeah, it is a sweat role. Now
do you call it a sandwich? No, you called it
hot dog. You call a hamburger sandwich? No, you call
it a hamburger, But by definition they are both sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Crazy, that's true. Carry, you're right, thank you. What do
you think do you think it is?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I'm kind of like where, yes, by definition it is,
but I don't think it's a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
By by vernacular, nobody calls it that, but by definition, yeah, yeah,
thank you, Carrie, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Just like Caitlin wants you to go order, would you
say a sandwich.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Roll, whatever, hamburger, sandwichwich, iburger, sandwich. You and I are
going to go to your favorite spot at at Oh
my god, I love that place.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Pick me up. You're in your haundai, and then we're
gonna do it. We're gonna drive over in theikiya.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, and I want you to sit down. I want
you to say I would like a sandwich, just say sandwich.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I want to I want to see what they bring you.
And it's not going to be a taco. So therefore
the argument that's not hold up in court.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah okay, but see that's different because we're talking about
is it a sandwich not it? Is that what people
call it or is that what you would normally associate. No,
I would not normally say I want a sandwich less
we get a taco. I wouldn't normally say that. But
for legal purposes like the definition an item of food
consisting of two pieces of bread with meat, cheese, or
(06:18):
other fillings between them eaten as a light meal. Now
someone else, I guess, Miriam Webster added a split roll.
Now that's the real differentiating factor, you guys, is whether
or not a split roll.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But it is. A split roll is a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But a split roll is not necessarily connected the way
that a taco is. Right, Hey, Nick, Nick, thanks for
weighing in on this important debate. Is a taco a sandwich?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Taco is definitely not a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, Why I say this because.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
A sandwich you think of Let's see, what's an example
of peanut, butter and jelly, the two pieces of bread.
I think it has bread talking it. A taco is
a shell, and I know it has the things in
the middle. But I would never ever consider that a.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Sand now, Nick, have you ever had and I did
this recently. I think I did it two days ago.
Have you ever had taco bell delivered via like door
Dash or somebody? Yes, I have, because I got hard.
I got crunchy tacos delivered as part of my I
got hard when my crunchy taco showed up. But anyway,
don't don't don't worry about that. Don't worry about that.
(07:36):
I met in the midsection. I became doordas driver, I
became stronger. I'm talking about rock hard my muscles, you know,
like my abs and stuff. But if you delivered the meat,
the meat sort of makes the taco shell a little
bit like mushi, such that when you go to eat it,
you wind up eating it like a sandwich because you
have to eat it on the side because if you
(07:57):
eat it up and down, the stuff just falls through.
In which case, my taco became a sandwich, did it not, Nick,
my taco?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I hear you that, but it's not. It could be
like a sandwich, but it is not.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All right, Well, thank you, Nick, I'm just I'm on
the polest to what people are talking about today.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Have a good day, man, Yeah, I'm just see you look,
and you know me, I'm always like scrolling through the
latest legal advancements, you know, and so this is what
people are talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hey, Michelle, I'm hi Michelle.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're saying not a sandwich, which of course is the
wrong answer, but that's fine, Like you're entitled to not
be correct.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's definitely not a sandwich. Why explain to me why,
because like you need bread for it to be a sandwich.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
There's no bread on a taco. It's like someone said,
it's a corn.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Shell'tant to be a cornsholl could be flower. It could
be that flower and bread too? Is there cornage? Is
their corn bread? Flower tortillas? You're you're wrong? You need
to always eat corn? Well, okay, now, I mean there's
a lot of things that are wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Right now, Michelle, this is wildly controversial. Now flower, that's a.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Different segment, Michelle. All right, so wait your turn. All right,
a good day, I have a good day.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Let me go. I know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Know you need a flower? Do you do? It holds more?
They're bigger. No, but the makes the bigger sandwich with
a Flowersia.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, Kayley, a sandwich. That's what the court of law says.
That's where the Supreme courts nudded. Someone in Florida or
somewhere said this, Yeah, okay, So I.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Was getting all riled up.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I was about to say, it's not a sandwich, but
then I started thinking of the actual verb.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You're sandwiching things together, you know, you're squeezing them to
get into your mouth better. What an excellent point, you
What an excellent point. It came to me. I don't know.
I took sip of my coffee and I came, you're
so smart.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, sometimes you got to like marinate on this really
heavy hitting content before you like, you've got to let
it settle in for a second, before you make your decision,
before you're outrage.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I would always ask people, because we do a lot
about very very serious topics on this show, and before
we become outrage, like, let's take a second to think
about our position. And you did that, kid, and you
were going to call and tell me I was an idiot,
and then you took a sip of coffee and you
were like, now, hold on, I see the lights.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I zoned out into traffic and I let it come
to me. And I was like, when I'm you're using
it as.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Much as I care, rotating it.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, take it into my mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's what exactly. And yeah, no, thank you, you've you've
seen it. You were on the same page. Have a
great day, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I've lived it.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yeah, you too, true story, I said, you know, David, David,
it's a sandwich in it.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, it's a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, And tell the people that don't that don't see
our position.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Why Well, because I mean, you could have like an open,
open faced sandwich, right, you just want eat one piece
of bread, You need like a piece of cheese on there,
a piece of meat, whatever, and it's a sandwich. So
then why not ataco you have a torkilla some fillings
in there, it's a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think by definition it is.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I do, and I understand no one calls it that,
but no one calls a hamburger a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And there's no debate about that.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm not that I'm gonna take a I'm gonna take
it a step further. I also think that a hot dog.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Is a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, yeah, I do have control.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
No, I did too. I did to Tony, thank you, No,
thank you. I like minded genius says, have a.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Good day, Hey you too.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay, all right, well problem sol No, I mean the
court of law. You know, that's what they said. Let's
let's take this to the Supreme Court. Honestly, they got
nothing else going on, right.
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Speaker 1 (12:34):
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Speaker 3 (12:38):
So this week I had to plan a goodbye dinner
for another one of my friends that I'm losing to Michigan,
where I'm from, and I'm not happy about it. I
started with a ton of friends here and they all
keep going.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I told you this was going to happen, and you
told me that it wouldn't. But I told you there
is a certain age which people start to just and
not not your friends anymore, but life just take people.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
For I was just saying that I didn't think I
would lose my friendships, and thankfully I haven't yet. But
childcare is expensive, and my friends are going to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
To Yeah, I just don't see it anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, Well luckily I go back all the time, so
I also see her. But I'm very depressed about it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But anyway, so she.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Was like, I want to go somewhere, you know, a
little bit nicer that we can take pictures, Somewhere there
that's picturesque. So I picked this place that looks pretty reviews,
It looks nice online.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I have never been there.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
An hour before our reservation, I received a text about
the dress code and I would just like to share
it with you guys, because my jaw hit the floor. Okay,
so it said, thank you for booking with and I'm
not going to say the name.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
We look forward to seeing you. Thank you for booking
with Chillis.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
As a reminder, starting at four pm daily, we kindly
asked that guests follow our sophisticated casual dinner attire to
ensure the best dining experience for all. Please refrain from
wearing baseball caps, flip flops, non dress shorts, and athletic
wear which we've heard this before. Right here, we go
party accessories such as crowns, veils, or extremely extremely revealing
(14:15):
clothing are not permitted. Gentlemen must avoid wearing graphic T shirts,
sleeveless shirts, or open shoes. Please be aware that any
decision regarding permitting entry to the restaurant is entirely at
the management's discretion. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
What the hell this offended you? It's not that I
just yeah, actually yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I've never heard like, so now we can't wear a
crown a veil?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like why are we wearing crowns around? What can we
a crown? Maybe it's someone's birthdays, bachelorettes, birthdays, veils, like what?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Here's where, Here's where, Here's where I think it's coming from.
Is I think, first of all, I think our definition
of dressing up, or our definitions of what's elevated fashion
and casual is just like it's casual casual has become
cut off teas or yoga pants and heals and you know,
(15:15):
flip flops. I mean, honestly, like people who think they're
dressing up to go to work or wearing golf clothes,
which I.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Don't think is dressing up. I don't care. I'm fine
with it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But I do think that like as a society, what
we consider going out apparel to go to a nice
restaurant is probably not what it once was. Right like
when we were growing up, but we went to like
a nice place, button down shirt, like nicer pants, not jeans.
And I think now people's definition of what dressing up
is is different. And so I think what the restaurant's
(15:45):
probably saying is we're going for a vibe. We own
the place. We don't want you to treat this like
you just came from the pool or something. That's what
I think. There's no I've heard far more egregious.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's not offended by that part.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm offended by why can't I have my cleavage out
and have a tiny veil on or a crown on
if it's my bachelorette?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like that is weirdo behavior. I mean, it's extreme extreme,
it's certainly extreme. It's a funny country. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They must have had people in there who like extremely
distracting with costumes.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I have no idea a graphic tea on a dude
can be cool with like a nice pair of jeans
and a nice pair of shoes like, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I got kicked out of a restaurant once for wearing
a sweater that had a hood attached to it that
was considered a hoodie, and I was asked to leave.
See I just now that offended me. But I'll tell
you what I did. I never I will never go
back to that restaurant. By the way, my hoodie quote
unquote was not cheap. It was a nice brand and
I looked nice. But hey, that has a hood on it.
(16:45):
We said no hoodies, you can't eat here, or you
can wear your jacket during the whole meal. Now again, like,
is that extreme? I think it's extreme. Is that like
sort of interpreting taco with a sandwich a little bit?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I got a hook on it. Hoodie, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think what they meant was like a hoodie, like
like a champion, like a sporting something you would wear,
you know, to the jail. I mean, I think that's
what they meant when they made that policy. But they
also said no sneakers this place, and you know the place.
You can't wear sneakers in this place. Well you could,
but but but women can wear sandals. But I can't
(17:22):
wear like Jordan Ones for example, and the Jordan Ones
that I happened to have it was a hoodie and
I had Jordan Ones on, so I was out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I was just I was completely upright. But thing like,
it's their restaurant.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I guess if that's what they want, they can do that,
and then you can make the choice not to go.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, I want it's not the whole vibe period, like
we were.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I text edition to my friends who always dressed up
and they were like, WHOA, Like, I don't know, it's
just it was it's.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean revealing clothing. That's weird.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I don't know how you define that exactly. And by
the way, like the more the merrier there like im,
I don't want to go to a place where you
can't show them off.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Come off is different though, and now you know how
I feel about this, Like if I.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Wear something versus someone who's forty pounds lighter than me
and has you know, a cops, we're gonna look very different.
So what do you say who's revealing and who's not?
And they put in there like it's up to artiscretion.
So there's not a fine line. It's not like you
can't do this or that. It's like we can decide
if you have too much cleavage, then you're out.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't know. It made me feel like I was.
I was very nervous. I was like, oh my gosh,
what do I wear. I've seen worse than that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But I also think if you, I mean, unfortunately, they
can do that and then just don't go back if
you if you think that's too much. The cleavage things weird.
But maybe maybe people come in and they make these
big spectacles and they you know, they got all this
crap on, and I don't know, I've seen it. I
definitely seem like and I hate to pick on batchelorette parties,
but I've seen birthday parties and bachel at parties where
they become the focus of the restaurant because it's so
(18:42):
over the top.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know, you've got veils and whatever, BoA's and all.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
This stuff, and it's it doesn't hurt my feelings, but
if the vibe or the if the vibe that they're
going for is different than that, then I guess they
say don't come here, and that's that's their risk, right
Like to party, Yes, I know you do, and let's
just get to the root of why this upsets you
is that you are always low cleave and you're always
running a crowd. You know, and I get it, I understand,
(19:10):
But there are other Cheesecake Factor would be a great
place for you.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, we're going there next time. Yeah. Honestly, honestly, you
should
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Vegas and round trip bear Fair. A confirmation text that
we sent standard message to data rates apply all thanks
to the Live Nation. According to one judge, a taco
is a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh not this one. A taco is a sandwich eight
three five, you can call it text the same number.
I mean, let's have it out. Let's you know.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
This is a forum for the most important conversations to
be had in society. That's what you can you can
count on us for that. And this is that is
a taco a sandwich because a judge says that it
is a restaurant. Tour said that he has in battling
over what type of establishment was being built and going
into a now eleven thousand square foot strip Mall restaurant space. Previously,
(01:08):
the commission that I guess oversees what can go, whar
zoning or whatever, denied a famous Taco from being located
in the Strip Mall, partially based on a written commitment
that he accepted with a nearby neighborhood association limiting any
restaurant that did not offer alcohols to not allowed to
receding and only sold made to order or subway style sandwiches.
(01:29):
The idea behind the agreement, according to court documents, was
to keep National fast food, burger and Chicken chains out
of the Strip Mall.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
They didn't want them there.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So the court agrees with this guy the tacos and
burritos are Mexican style sandwiches and that the original written
commitment does not restrict potential restaurants to only American cuisine
style sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, fam, that's a torta. But a torte is a sandwich,
That's what I'm saying. That's a Mexican sandwich, not a taco.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, this guy really wanted to be in the Strip Mall,
and I guess you could have sandwiches in the Strip Mall,
but you couldn't have tacos, and so this guy Nope,
he came to the rescue and said he showed well.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He had to do what he had to do right
to get his little business going. He has three towels
for the business.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Okay, But whatever is a taco? I mean, are we
are we calling it? I think it's a stretch. But
a tortilla, a hardened tortilla, is still a form of bread,
is it not.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The bread needs to be separated from me. For it
to be a sandwich, there has to be two pieces.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
As opposed to the one. Yeah, because like something folding, yea,
that's my and you get a stub.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They're still connected, right because they didn't cut basically, that's true,
like a HOGI is not necessarily Maybe I thought they,
is it? They don't always somebody cutting the bread down
the middle. Yeah, some sandwiches they don't cut all the
way through like someboy used to do a well cut.
If you remember that, they used to cut the bread.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Out of the middle. They used to cut from the
top and then stick this stuff in there. Tacoh, yeah,
that's a taco.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Then people say that cheeseburgers or whatever can be a
sandwich because there's two pieces of bread.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Cheeseburger is a sandwich. Burger, by definition, is a sandwich.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, go to a restaurant and order a burger sandwich.
Can see what the waitress says, sandwich.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But just because you wouldn't say it that way doesn't
mean by definition it's not that. But the meaning of
a sandwich is two or more slices of bread or
a split roll.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
A filling in between.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So how is a How is a curved dried tortilla
not the same as a split roll?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It is a tortilla, is a split roll? Hold on
Laura's Laura's a chef.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Laura calls us a lot of times, text has called it, Laura,
You're a chef, So what what say you? Is a taco?
A sandwich? Laura calls all the time, what it is
you're saying?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It is? Yes, a sandwich is a vehicle with things
inside of it. A cornshell, right.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So it's a cornshell, which is a which was originally pliable, right,
which a vehicle, which is a vehicle, which is a
vehicle that Enshuran can drive his song through. Right Yeah, okay,
all right, So Laura says that that she agrees with
this cord case. All right, thank you, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Thank you too.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now let's be honest. You said it, Paulina, like, this
guy just wants to be in that strip mall. So
he was making whatever legal argument he could. But a
judge agrees with it. So whether he agrees with it
or not, we don't know. He just wanted to make
sure that the ordinance didn't apply to him, so he
got a judge who agree with him. But see, here
we go, Carrie, you're gonna do this. Now we're gonna
we're gonna take it one step further, aren't we?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Carry? Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
We had a big debate at my work one day
about whether or not a hot dog is a stand place.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
By definition it is. By definition of hot dog is
a sandwich?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It is.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'm sorry, guys, yeah, it is a sweat role. Now
do you call it a sandwich? No, you called it
hot dog. You call a hamburger sandwich? No, you call
it a hamburger, But by definition they are both sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Crazy, that's true. Carry, you're right, thank you. What do
you think do you think it is?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I'm kind of like where, yes, by definition it is,
but I don't think it's a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
By by vernacular, nobody calls it that, but by definition, yeah, yeah,
thank you, Carrie, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Just like Caitlin wants you to go order, would you
say a sandwich.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Roll, whatever, hamburger, sandwichwich, iburger, sandwich. You and I are
going to go to your favorite spot at at Oh
my god, I love that place.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Pick me up. You're in your haundai, and then we're
gonna do it. We're gonna drive over in theikiya.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, and I want you to sit down. I want
you to say I would like a sandwich, just say sandwich.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I want to I want to see what they bring you.
And it's not going to be a taco. So therefore
the argument that's not hold up in court.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah okay, but see that's different because we're talking about
is it a sandwich not it? Is that what people
call it or is that what you would normally associate. No,
I would not normally say I want a sandwich less
we get a taco. I wouldn't normally say that. But
for legal purposes like the definition an item of food
consisting of two pieces of bread with meat, cheese, or
(06:18):
other fillings between them eaten as a light meal. Now
someone else, I guess, Miriam Webster added a split roll.
Now that's the real differentiating factor, you guys, is whether
or not a split roll.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But it is. A split roll is a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But a split roll is not necessarily connected the way
that a taco is. Right, Hey, Nick, Nick, thanks for
weighing in on this important debate. Is a taco a sandwich?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Taco is definitely not a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, Why I say this because.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
A sandwich you think of Let's see, what's an example
of peanut, butter and jelly, the two pieces of bread.
I think it has bread talking it. A taco is
a shell, and I know it has the things in
the middle. But I would never ever consider that a.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Sand now, Nick, have you ever had and I did
this recently. I think I did it two days ago.
Have you ever had taco bell delivered via like door
Dash or somebody? Yes, I have, because I got hard.
I got crunchy tacos delivered as part of my I
got hard when my crunchy taco showed up. But anyway,
don't don't don't worry about that. Don't worry about that.
(07:36):
I met in the midsection. I became doordas driver, I
became stronger. I'm talking about rock hard my muscles, you know,
like my abs and stuff. But if you delivered the meat,
the meat sort of makes the taco shell a little
bit like mushi, such that when you go to eat it,
you wind up eating it like a sandwich because you
have to eat it on the side because if you
(07:57):
eat it up and down, the stuff just falls through.
In which case, my taco became a sandwich, did it not, Nick,
my taco?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I hear you that, but it's not. It could be
like a sandwich, but it is not.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All right, Well, thank you, Nick, I'm just I'm on
the polest to what people are talking about today.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Have a good day, man, Yeah, I'm just see you look,
and you know me, I'm always like scrolling through the
latest legal advancements, you know, and so this is what
people are talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hey, Michelle, I'm hi Michelle.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're saying not a sandwich, which of course is the
wrong answer, but that's fine, Like you're entitled to not
be correct.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's definitely not a sandwich. Why explain to me why,
because like you need bread for it to be a sandwich.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
There's no bread on a taco. It's like someone said,
it's a corn.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Shell'tant to be a cornsholl could be flower. It could
be that flower and bread too? Is there cornage? Is
their corn bread? Flower tortillas? You're you're wrong? You need
to always eat corn? Well, okay, now, I mean there's
a lot of things that are wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Right now, Michelle, this is wildly controversial. Now flower, that's a.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Different segment, Michelle. All right, so wait your turn. All right,
a good day, I have a good day.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Let me go. I know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Know you need a flower? Do you do? It holds more?
They're bigger. No, but the makes the bigger sandwich with
a Flowersia.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, Kayley, a sandwich. That's what the court of law says.
That's where the Supreme courts nudded. Someone in Florida or
somewhere said this, Yeah, okay, So I.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Was getting all riled up.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I was about to say, it's not a sandwich, but
then I started thinking of the actual verb.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You're sandwiching things together, you know, you're squeezing them to
get into your mouth better. What an excellent point, you
What an excellent point. It came to me. I don't know.
I took sip of my coffee and I came, you're
so smart.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, sometimes you got to like marinate on this really
heavy hitting content before you like, you've got to let
it settle in for a second, before you make your decision,
before you're outrage.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I would always ask people, because we do a lot
about very very serious topics on this show, and before
we become outrage, like, let's take a second to think
about our position. And you did that, kid, and you
were going to call and tell me I was an idiot,
and then you took a sip of coffee and you
were like, now, hold on, I see the lights.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I zoned out into traffic and I let it come
to me. And I was like, when I'm you're using
it as.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Much as I care, rotating it.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, take it into my mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's what exactly. And yeah, no, thank you, you've you've
seen it. You were on the same page. Have a
great day, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I've lived it.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yeah, you too, true story, I said, you know, David, David,
it's a sandwich in it.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, it's a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, And tell the people that don't that don't see
our position.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Why Well, because I mean, you could have like an open,
open faced sandwich, right, you just want eat one piece
of bread, You need like a piece of cheese on there,
a piece of meat, whatever, and it's a sandwich. So
then why not ataco you have a torkilla some fillings
in there, it's a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think by definition it is.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I do, and I understand no one calls it that,
but no one calls a hamburger a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And there's no debate about that.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm not that I'm gonna take a I'm gonna take
it a step further. I also think that a hot dog.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Is a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, yeah, I do have control.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
No, I did too. I did to Tony, thank you, No,
thank you. I like minded genius says, have a.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Good day, Hey you too.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay, all right, well problem sol No, I mean the
court of law. You know, that's what they said. Let's
let's take this to the Supreme Court. Honestly, they got
nothing else going on, right.
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So this week I had to plan a goodbye dinner
for another one of my friends that I'm losing to Michigan,
where I'm from, and I'm not happy about it. I
started with a ton of friends here and they all
keep going.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I told you this was going to happen, and you
told me that it wouldn't. But I told you there
is a certain age which people start to just and
not not your friends anymore, but life just take people.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
For I was just saying that I didn't think I
would lose my friendships, and thankfully I haven't yet. But
childcare is expensive, and my friends are going to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
To Yeah, I just don't see it anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, Well luckily I go back all the time, so
I also see her. But I'm very depressed about it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But anyway, so she.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Was like, I want to go somewhere, you know, a
little bit nicer that we can take pictures, Somewhere there
that's picturesque. So I picked this place that looks pretty reviews,
It looks nice online.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I have never been there.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
An hour before our reservation, I received a text about
the dress code and I would just like to share
it with you guys, because my jaw hit the floor. Okay,
so it said, thank you for booking with and I'm
not going to say the name.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
We look forward to seeing you. Thank you for booking
with Chillis.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
As a reminder, starting at four pm daily, we kindly
asked that guests follow our sophisticated casual dinner attire to
ensure the best dining experience for all. Please refrain from
wearing baseball caps, flip flops, non dress shorts, and athletic
wear which we've heard this before. Right here, we go
party accessories such as crowns, veils, or extremely extremely revealing
(14:15):
clothing are not permitted. Gentlemen must avoid wearing graphic T shirts,
sleeveless shirts, or open shoes. Please be aware that any
decision regarding permitting entry to the restaurant is entirely at
the management's discretion. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
What the hell this offended you? It's not that I
just yeah, actually yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I've never heard like, so now we can't wear a
crown a veil?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like why are we wearing crowns around? What can we
a crown? Maybe it's someone's birthdays, bachelorettes, birthdays, veils, like what?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Here's where, Here's where, Here's where I think it's coming from.
Is I think, first of all, I think our definition
of dressing up, or our definitions of what's elevated fashion
and casual is just like it's casual casual has become
cut off teas or yoga pants and heals and you know,
(15:15):
flip flops. I mean, honestly, like people who think they're
dressing up to go to work or wearing golf clothes,
which I.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Don't think is dressing up. I don't care. I'm fine
with it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But I do think that like as a society, what
we consider going out apparel to go to a nice
restaurant is probably not what it once was. Right like
when we were growing up, but we went to like
a nice place, button down shirt, like nicer pants, not jeans.
And I think now people's definition of what dressing up
is is different. And so I think what the restaurant's
(15:45):
probably saying is we're going for a vibe. We own
the place. We don't want you to treat this like
you just came from the pool or something. That's what
I think. There's no I've heard far more egregious.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's not offended by that part.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm offended by why can't I have my cleavage out
and have a tiny veil on or a crown on
if it's my bachelorette?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like that is weirdo behavior. I mean, it's extreme extreme,
it's certainly extreme. It's a funny country. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They must have had people in there who like extremely
distracting with costumes.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I have no idea a graphic tea on a dude
can be cool with like a nice pair of jeans
and a nice pair of shoes like, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I got kicked out of a restaurant once for wearing
a sweater that had a hood attached to it that
was considered a hoodie, and I was asked to leave.
See I just now that offended me. But I'll tell
you what I did. I never I will never go
back to that restaurant. By the way, my hoodie quote
unquote was not cheap. It was a nice brand and
I looked nice. But hey, that has a hood on it.
(16:45):
We said no hoodies, you can't eat here, or you
can wear your jacket during the whole meal. Now again, like,
is that extreme? I think it's extreme. Is that like
sort of interpreting taco with a sandwich a little bit?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I got a hook on it. Hoodie, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think what they meant was like a hoodie, like
like a champion, like a sporting something you would wear,
you know, to the jail. I mean, I think that's
what they meant when they made that policy. But they
also said no sneakers this place, and you know the place.
You can't wear sneakers in this place. Well you could,
but but but women can wear sandals. But I can't
(17:22):
wear like Jordan Ones for example, and the Jordan Ones
that I happened to have it was a hoodie and
I had Jordan Ones on, so I was out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I was just I was completely upright. But thing like,
it's their restaurant.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I guess if that's what they want, they can do that,
and then you can make the choice not to go.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, I want it's not the whole vibe period, like
we were.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I text edition to my friends who always dressed up
and they were like, WHOA, Like, I don't know, it's
just it was it's.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean revealing clothing. That's weird.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I don't know how you define that exactly. And by
the way, like the more the merrier there like im,
I don't want to go to a place where you
can't show them off.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Come off is different though, and now you know how
I feel about this, Like if I.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Wear something versus someone who's forty pounds lighter than me
and has you know, a cops, we're gonna look very different.
So what do you say who's revealing and who's not?
And they put in there like it's up to artiscretion.
So there's not a fine line. It's not like you
can't do this or that. It's like we can decide
if you have too much cleavage, then you're out.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't know. It made me feel like I was.
I was very nervous. I was like, oh my gosh,
what do I wear. I've seen worse than that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But I also think if you, I mean, unfortunately, they
can do that and then just don't go back if
you if you think that's too much. The cleavage things weird.
But maybe maybe people come in and they make these
big spectacles and they you know, they got all this
crap on, and I don't know, I've seen it. I
definitely seem like and I hate to pick on batchelorette parties,
but I've seen birthday parties and bachel at parties where
they become the focus of the restaurant because it's so
(18:42):
over the top.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know, you've got veils and whatever, BoA's and all.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
This stuff, and it's it doesn't hurt my feelings, but
if the vibe or the if the vibe that they're
going for is different than that, then I guess they
say don't come here, and that's that's their risk, right
Like to party, Yes, I know you do, and let's
just get to the root of why this upsets you
is that you are always low cleave and you're always
running a crowd. You know, and I get it, I understand,
(19:10):
But there are other Cheesecake Factor would be a great
place for you.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, we're going there next time. Yeah. Honestly, honestly, you
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