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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Rise.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Honorable Judge Kiki is here and take it away.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Let's go, Let's get into the courtroom. The gabble has
been hit, it says, hey, Kiki. I recently took a
new job at a small tech company. The pay was
great for the position, and I was excited to start
my career at a company with a relaxed work environment.
During my onboarding process, it was mentioned to me that
the office manager has a dog named Larry that everyone
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in the office love.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Larry read the dog.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm not a big dog person, but I didn't think
anything of it. Well after starting the job, I quickly
learned how popular mister Larry is in the office. He's
a huge dog that goes from desk to desk all
throughout the workday, shedding hair everywhere and jumping in people's
laps and even popping his head into zoone calls. I
played nice about it at first, but he quickly got annoying.
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He kept coming to my desk, trying to lay across
my feet, and would hover near my desk when I
would eat lunch. When I would try to steer him away,
I noticed dirty looks from other coworkers, and I could
feel the passive aggressive energy from the office manager who
was Larry's owner. My final straw was that Larry jumped
up on me as I walked in one morning and
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knocked my.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Coffee all over me.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was over it, so I sent an email to
HR about the issue with the dog, requesting that he
no longer be allowed in the office. After all, him
being there is a privilege and not a rite, so
they had to ban him. Now the office manager in
half of the office are treating me like I'm murdered
a puppy. People are saying I ruined the vibe, and
that one person said, I was soulless for not understanding
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that dogs can be a part of the team.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Am I wrong for banning Larry?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh? You guys are the jury eight five. I don't
think you should have banned Larry. I don't think you
should have complained about Larry.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Larry seemed like he was bringing joy to the workplace.
You know, he was hanging out with everybody, going to
desk and you know, chilling with everybody. I feel like
there you could have taken some other steps before getting
him banned. Maybe you could have asked for an office
or you could have requested maybe you work from home,
but to just get poor Larry band from the office. Girl,
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and you didn't mess up everybody's joy.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So you know me, I'm gonna side with the animal
every time. Yeah, and that dog could have that dog?
What I what I tend to forget though, is it
not everybody likes animals. Not everybody grew up with an animals.
People are afraid of animals. Not everybody knows how to
like be like hey, you know, down or get away
or whatever. You know, something like a dog will be
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a dog and people they'll act ag I'm not talking
about biting or being aggressive. I just mean a dog
will be a dog, and people are and they act
all crazy and I'm just saying like, you got to know, okay,
down or whatever. And but then again the owner also
needs to be responsible and sort of keep things in control.
I mean, if the dog is distracting everybody, then then
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if you don't want the dog to get I honestly
I put this on the owner. If you don't want
your dog to get banned from the office, and you
know that your dog is bothering people, then you need
to keep it away from those people because those people
are going to wind up doing you in. And so
that's I put this on the dog's owner sadly, like,
if you know that Larry in this person who wrote
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in the Kiki's court doesn't like Larry, then you got
to keep Larry away from her because you know someone's
going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The ops right and turn it in. And she did
and now Larry can't come back to the office. I
want to touch to Larry.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I hear his side, right, Larry has to work from home.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But I mean, who doesn't like a dog in the office.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I would love a little dog around here.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't understand this. Okay, hold on a second, now, Jack,
Jack is a part of the jury. Here, Hi Jack,
how you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
How are you hey? Jack? You don't like you're not
liking his Larry story, this Larry situation.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Listen. I'm a dog person. I have a I have
a dog at home. I'm an animal person. But you know,
like at the end of the day, and see where
she's coming from, you to your point, if she you know,
maybe there's some steps that maybe could have been taken
to you know, into the outright banning the dog. But
like you want to let your toddler run around the
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office and screwing stuff up, you know. I mean there's
a time and place, and I mean if the dog's
well mannered and like you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Know, is chill.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I've had off his dogs before, you know, and they're
larre chill. But like it doesn't seem like this one's it.
And I don't want to be that guy, but like
it just sounds like maybe that's not the place for
the dog to be rolling around.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah you do. If you're gonna be the person who
brings your dog to work, your dog used to be
well behaved and because otherwise it means that no one
gets to bring their dog to work, so there is
a responsibility. If your dog is hyperactive or not well trained,
or humps everything or makes people uncomfortable scared, well, then
you got to You gotta be self aware enough to know.
And I'm a dog guy. First dog can hunt me
all day, I don't care. It doesn't bother me at all.
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Bite me, I don't care. Whatever I like, I'll probably
probably my fault. I got bitten. As far as I'm concerned.
Dogs are better than me. But my thing is, you know,
you still the burden. You got to think of the
of the worst person in your office, and how is
that person going to react to this? And if I
can't appease the worst person in the office, then I
probably shouldn't bring my dog to work. Otherwise this is
what happens.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like like if I'm on a zoom call trying to
execute you know, a deal or a call or whatever
it is. You know, I mean, I can't focus to
my best of ability because a dog's popping in and out.
I mean, yeah, but after a while, it gets well,
I get you know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, no, I mean I do see it. But but
now this person needs to get into the job because
everyone hates this person. Yeah, I said, yeah, solely because
she's the reason why said dog. This is the reason
why Larry King I'm going to work anymore. Thank you, Jack,
have a good day. Glad you called man. Thanks for listening.
Eight five, five five nine one one three five Richard.
Welcome to Keiki's Court The Fred Show. How you doing yourself?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
God?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Hey man, So this Larry the Dog been coming to
work and uh, this woman that wrote to Kiki really
wasn't getting along with Larry. Didn't like Larry the Dog
said something. Now Larry the Dog is banned from the
office and many people in the office hate this person
now because they liked Larry.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
What say you, Yeah, I mean it's harsh to hate
the person. But when she did interview, they told her
about the dog, she sits at the position based.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Upon that, and then suddenly to turn around and go,
oh no, I have to complain. I can understand both
sides of a dog song for everybody, but you can't
in that dempartaments already established. So now you have made
him imbalanced.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's another point that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The dog was there before you, you know, so everybody
was okay with the dog you know, and the.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Dog's behavior and they told her about it.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That is a good point. That is that an excellent point? Yeah, no,
it's true. Thank you, Richard. That's a good point. Oh,
thank you, right, thanks man, have a good day.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Listen to you and we'll listen to you for a
long time.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
To couple.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Richard, where are you from?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Originally sought that Africa about? I live in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh, hey, shut out. That's that's quite the journey. That's
quite the journey. But thank you, Richard, have a good day.
Than glad you called. Oh oh Ashley, Oh the no
Fun Police is called Ashley Ashley? Are you the no
Fun Police?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I am the no Fun Police?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No Fun Police is here?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Wow Wow, I'm trying to make a siren noise. Yeah,
So what happened? What's going on? You were about to
upset Larry? Did I mention? Larry is an extremely ravenous dog,
has rabies.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Dogs have a time in the place, and I feel
like your workplace, especially if it's jumping on people when
they walk in, like it's probably not the dog's faults,
definitely the owner's fault. But like I wouldn't want a
dog in my face while I'm trying to eat my lunch.
I wouldn't want a dog like pawing all over me
when I'm trying to get my work done, especially walking
in and the dog is obviously sounds big, right, like
so we jumped on her, knocked their coffee down. She's
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probably now all wet and now she has no coffee,
Like no, I would be mad, like bye see you.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, I'll always side with the dog. But I really
do put this on the owner because again though, like
if the dog, if you know the dog bothers someone,
then you have to keep the dog away from that person.
Otherwise this is what happens. One person ruins it for everybody.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
But like it's the owner's fault if the dog doesn't
know it shouldn't be jumping. It's not really on the dog.
It's definitely the owner, but the owner definitely as an
office manager, should be managing her workers and her dog,
like move the dog.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
I agree with the girl, like she's not the jerk.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah she was over it. Yeah, I think actually I
would rather. I would probably quit my job before I
would get the office dog band that was there before
me the same thing too.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
Before I decided my opinion, but also like what if
it's a good right money and my dog now too?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, And I know that sounds crazy, but I mean, like,
do you want to work in a place where you
you may? You? You are the why the dog? Right?
That's what I mean. So even if she's and I'm
not saying that she's whether she's justified or not. Now
people hate her, so maybe you need to be at
a less dog friendly place of business. But I see
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both sides of that one. Thank you actually have a
good day, have a good day.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Thanks.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Yeah, I think it's like case by case though, like
my dog Benzo wouldn't survive here like Frid. I know,
you get like flustered with your paperwork being out of order,
like my dog would make you lose it.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'm telling you right now, like.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You try to throw out before bringing Benzo here for
some reason, and I don't know why you've suggested that, but.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
No, great, but he went and described I love dogs.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But I'm like, dude, you bring that dog in here
and then it's over and then yeah, it'll never happen again, exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So I think I love you.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You've held Gigi and breastfed the baby. I have no
issue with that whatsoever.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
Right, But like Benzel is just like ten times, I think,
more difficult than the baby.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
He'll come in here, choose some wire, ye here, now
we can't fix it, And then before long it's like.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, fix a crap in the corner, like right he would?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Right? Well, I do that. Sometimes it depends on you know.
I mean, that's that's not a weird thing to do.
But hey, Teresa, yes, hi Teresa, you're a dog person.
But if if you're just joining Kiki's court. Basically, it's
a woman who got a job at a place there
was an office dog. She liked the office dog, not
because the office dog was mean or anything or dangerous.
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She just got in her way and spilled coffee and
all things. So she complained. And now the office cannot
have an office dog anymore because of her. And she's
you know, she's very unpoppy. What do you think, Oh,
I see.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
Both sides of the story. Being the dog person, I
wouldn't want a dog. I mean, I'm a dog person,
but I wouldn't want them up in my business when I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Trying to do them work.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
There's a time and a place to get the puppy
love yeahing around and getting hair everywhere. I mean, if
they're not a dog person, they're.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Not gonna want hair everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And if your dog sheds, a lot of people do
have allergies. I mean I am sympathetic to that, and
I mean, yeah, it's a special kind of dog. I
think that's going to be the office dog, right And
maybe maybe Larry wasn't it, you know, which makes me say.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
You just needed boundaries. That other guy said you wouldn't
let your kid run around? Yeah, yeah, you run around
and do everything or just true, it's just structure and boundaries.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Boundaries, haircut.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Thank you, Teresa, have a good day, Gary, Thank you too.
Glad you called Amanda. Amanda. Dogs are for everyone, right, everybody?
So even if the dog's people, okay.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Everything, I don't care. If I walk into an office
and that dog literally barrels me and knocks me over
every morning, I'll know to put my coffee somewhere else
and then say, hid with the dog, How dare you
treat that beautiful animal like that?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Like you, me and Kaylen are of the same mindset,
but I also am aware that we are crazy people.
Like again, like if I had my last meal. If
I had just me and a dog, and if I
only had one sandwich, the dog gets the sandwich.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It could punch.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Larry actually, like I don't have a left hand anymore.
Larry bit at off. But it's like, but it was
fine because he didn't know Larry.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'm no wrong in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I probably put my hand too close to Larry's mouth
that he was hungry, Like it was my heart that
he bit my face off because I invaded his personal space.
Like that's probably my But we are different than most people.
You have to remember that.
Speaker 10 (12:56):
I know I got that from my mom. Crazy dog people,
But so I have a great the person that said
if the dog was there before her, that that's all
so long, like that, that's that dogs area. You get
out of that dog's area. Yeah, work than her anyways.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So ye see, I would want to work at a
place like that. But again, we are not the same
as everyone else.
Speaker 10 (13:18):
My place of work. It's a better date one percent
when I see a dog at my job. Every every
job should have an emotional support dog.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Thank you. Hey, we're all on the same page. But
I just I do see, I do see the other
side reluctantly. So anyway, thank you, Amanda, have a good day.
Thank you all right, And Gwen, Gwen, you have an
office dog, Gwen, you do what's his name or her name?
Speaker 9 (13:43):
His name was Pete.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
He passed away recently.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Dog.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh my god, I hope the name the conference room
after him or something. My god.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh he was so good too. He worked in a
different department.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
But he was just laying on the floor like, no problem.
I'm trying to understand, like it's the dog.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Is being chaotic. But like again, like you said, it's
like totally up to the owner.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, I put this solely on the owner. Yeah, yeah, okay,
you're right over there.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, I just am I'm pissed.
Speaker 11 (14:14):
Yeah, don't throw it at me. I'm just sick of it. Honestly,
it's no kidding.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Sorry, I'm getting angry.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Gwyn. Thank you. Have a good day. I'm sorry about
Pete the dog. It's terrible. Yeah, oh my god, that's
the saddest part of my day. Honestly,