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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
I am not salty, okay, I am single and sweet.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
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fread show is we Field. We talked about AI and
all the subscription AI subscriptions to people having. I'm like,
I don't have one AI subscription. What am I suppose?
What are you having for?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, my best friend uses it for work, so I
have the password and I use it for everything. Right,
mean Instagram caption, give me some you know, fun things we.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Can come out.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can tell when it's definitely Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Our captions are written by AI yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I tweak them though, see that that's your first mistake,
is that you went to Chadjibuti. You typed one, you
had to type in right, and then you're like, oh,
I was awful. You have to tweak it.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
You can't just like go in, well, I don't if
I'm doing that, I can just do it myself. If
I'm tweaking it, well.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think she said like a foundation, and then I
think you go in and kind of have to make
your own adjustments.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
If you were ever a single person, or if you
are a single person and you went to a wedding
and you were and there was an attempt at to
set up because I feel like what happens is a
single person goes to wedding and it's been a while,
aguess since I mean usually it's this is way more
common I think in people's twenties or whatever. But like,
you go to a wedding and in your single and

(01:41):
there's usually other single people there, and so like the
groom or the bride is like, well, at our wedding,
you need to meet Sally because Sally's single, and I
think you guys would like each other because apparently if
you're at a wedding and you're not you're by yourself,
or if you're single, then it's imperative that you are
not because it's so romantic. You know, you have to
have love too, because I feel like I'm always the

(02:02):
single guy at the wedding, and it's not so much
anymore because well, first of all, I don't go to
that many weddings anymore. I go to second weddings, I guess,
but they're usually much smaller. I've actually, I've actually stood
in a wedding for the same guy twice already in
my life. And I'm not that old, but in my twenties.
So I feel like the sas a lot of a
lot of single people. And so every time I go
to a wedding, oh, you got to meet so and

(02:23):
so and oh and then and then they tell that person.
But what I what I found is it almost never works,
like has it ever worked for you? Because you know,
sometimes like I can't remember, I went to one wedding
and the bride's grooms one of the groom's best men men,
I guess, was a former Navy seal, very good looking

(02:45):
navy guy and like good looking dude, like legit whatever, whatever,
And for weeks in advance, it was that this coworker
was going to meet this guy and they were gonna
hit it off and it was gonna be great. So
she got her hopes up and whatever. We go to
the wedding. Turns out he ends up liking another one
of our coworkers more, and they're the ones who wind
up in the parking lot of the wedding venue hooking up.

(03:06):
And so then homegirl first girl's mad, but she really
has no reason to be mad because it's like, well,
he picked somebody else. But I mean, she had her
hopes up, seen pictures of the guy, you know, he'd
been talked up, the whole thing. But I think it's
all just kind of a it's a wild game, you know,
and when drinks are involved and people are going to
these weddings and it's like, I don't know, but has
this ever worked? And I bring this up because a

(03:29):
woman has gone viral on TikTok because ahead of her
friend's wedding, a TikTok user named Mac asked the bride
about any possibility that single men would be attending, and
the bride responded, yes, my fiance is compiling a list,
and a day later, Mack received a full blown power
point of all the single.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Men oh god A good friends who are.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Attending the wedding, not just their names, though this presentation
included photos, profession, current location, where they grew up, what
sport they played in high school. She mayn't have needed
all of this, but she's based in New York, and
I guess instead of chatting up a guy who lived
in Chicago, for example, she was able to fast track
the process go for another New Yorker. Did it turn

(04:08):
out well, No, it was a bust, she says, but
she appreciated the information and having that beforehand.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
That's nice. I feel like people should do that for
their friends. That is nice.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
But has the wedding arrangement ever worked? I wonder like
if anyone ever left a wedding and been like, that's
the I found the one at your wedding.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't have any friends that that has happened to,
but I know that weddings are a romantic place. Like
I feel like every single person that goes to the
wedding is I in the bridesmaids as they walk down
the little carpet.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Or whatever they're all like.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Being sized up by the single men, and then when
they do the little bouquet toss, I feel like that's
the opportunity for the single men to kind of pick
out the single girls.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
A lot of people I feel like hook up at
other people's weddings.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, well, I don't know. If they do that thing
and I'm watching, I stay away from the one who's
the most aggressive, the one who's the most rapidest, like you, Yeah,
the one who just like ran across the room and
jumped and wind up on Sports Center. Yeah for grabbing them. Okay,
that's the one who I think is a little bit
too excited about it, and I need to sort of
take a step back from that one.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
That's me. They're on albows trying to get a little book.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And all the guys are watching, going which one of
like all the guys, especially the guys who are in
relationships with these women, because it's like, oh yeah, the
one who's like snatching it from the other one. It's like,
oh god, yeah, she's with me. I got to deal
with her.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Well, I just wonder if it's ever worked, because I
mean I definitely have met people at weddings and things
have happened that lasted the length of the wedding weekend.
And I also been told so and so so excited
to meet you were setting you up with so and so.
This is going to be great, only for so and
so not to be that excited about it, or for
me not to be that excited about so and so
in real life. But then it's awkward because there's been

(05:49):
so much, you know, build up for weeks and weeks
leading up to this.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, it's the build up for me.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I think there's so many things that have to fall
into place perfectly for it to work that I feel
like the percentage has to be low. Yeah, that it's
a lasting thing, like maybe for that night because everyone's drunk,
it looks hot and whatever, but like there's.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Some one that's lasting. I don't love.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's a very nice thing to do, though. It was
a very nice thing to do to make a presentation.
Oh yeah, But I will say that the story I
was telling you about the navy seal and the woman
who wound up not being heard wound up being someone else.
It was a destination wedding. This is a crazy story.
They hooked up that night, right and then the other

(06:28):
girls passed, but the other two traveled together like they
traveled because we all lived at the same place at
the time when we were going away to this other
person's hometown the bride's hometown for the wedding. So it's
already awkward as the two go back to the airport
to get on the same flight. The two girls, the
one who hooked up and the one who didn't get
to hook up. And then this is real. The flight

(06:48):
gets delayed, right the flight gets delayed five hours, so
I guess she's texted dude from the night before. Dude
drives to the airport, gets a parking spot in the
parking garage, still the same. The other one is mad,
but the one who hooked up leaves security, goes back
through security after the parking range. They do it again

(07:08):
in the parking ri I'm like what, And then the
other one's just sitting there, So she's already pissed, and
now her friend's not going to hang out with her
for the five hours for the delay because you're on
the parking lot getting with the same guy. But she
was supposed to go. Yeah, I just wanted to go home.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I know that girl just wanted to go home.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, I don't know my story made sensor if you
need a diagram. But all I'm saying is this girl's like,
not only did I not was he not into me
last night, He's not into me now. And I got
to sit next to this girl who just hooked up
with him again in the in the parking garage, you know, section.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
C, on the airport, fresh out the back seat on
the plane, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Hey, Renee, good morning, Hey, good morning, Hi Renee. So
you have one of these sort of wedding hookup scenarios,
but it worked out for you, well, not.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Really in the end.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
But so it was about probably like ten to fifteen
years ago, my.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Cousin got married and I was a bridesmaid in the wedding,
and I ended up hooking up.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
With the best man who was you know, the groom's brother.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
So then actually they ended up getting divorced, and recently
she ended up getting remarried.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
But if you can guess, I did not get an
invitation to that second wedding.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Now you know what would have been wild if she
married the brother, that would have been my god.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
No, he got married a short while after the wedding.

Speaker 9 (08:27):
So that might have been a little questionable.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Wait a minute, so there was a bit of an
overlap with Renee in the and the future wife.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
I unbeknownst to me, unbeknownst.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
To me, why wasn't the future wife at the wedding?
How is this even permitted to occur?

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Exactly? I have no idea.

Speaker 9 (08:44):
I didn't ask questions.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I agree. I agree with that. Thank you to that
power point would have been nice, you know, with all
this kind of information. You know, have a good day
for you too. Thank you for calling known wedding shenanigans
for you.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
No, I've never really hot to take care. I've never
really been to a wedding as an adult. Yeah, my
friends will be having.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
One thing that happened that was scandalous was after one wedding,
Paulina and I ended up in the same bed that.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
True Jason ended, I'm in bed with a woman.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I am the woman. I'm here to tell the story. Yeah,
well that was what I think.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
That was the weekend where I learned that you if
you're not in the view of others, you don't wear pants.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
That is true.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Jason brown Yell's on me. And now he says, I've
never met someone takes off their pants so much. But
I hate my cans, especially to bed. I want to
wear pants to bed. But I asked him I can
sleep over because he was staying at the hotel and
I thought this whole time, I'm like, oh, I'm going home,
not staying at this place. Oh wow, Oh no, I
had a great time. I I don't want to party.
So I asked him, can I can I stay with you?
Can I sleep over? He's like, yes, but I'm building

(09:47):
a wall. He built a wall of pillows because he didn't.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Want to be by a woman. And then he woke
up at four am. And I'm not even being funny.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
He screamed dad and shot up from like the bed
like he just got up.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, and that's scared me to the zone.

Speaker 10 (10:01):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Interesting night.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Wow, And this don't happened because you wouldn't put your
pants on. I'm unbelievable. Amanda, Hi, good morning.

Speaker 11 (10:12):
Hi, good morning.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Hey? So you great? Thanks for calling on for listening.
So you actually have a love connection from a wedding?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
It worked? Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
So the wedding was in Cabo. It was my best
friend getting married and the groom's best friend. They like
set us up to walk down the aisle together. Totally.
We're trying, like the whole weekend to get us together.
And at the end of it, it actually worked out.

Speaker 11 (10:34):
And we've been together for two years.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
And living together and it they like totally set us
up and it works.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Wow, And so they'll be coming to your wedding.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Yeah, and now it's fun because you know, like double
dates is fun because they're best friends and we're best
friends and it somehow worked out for us.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
But have you considered, and I'm not putting this on you,
but have you considered that like if one, if somebody
breaks up, then the equilibrium is thrown off you. Yeah,
we have real problems.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
We're talk about that. We're like, yeah, me and my
girlfriend are like, okay, wait, so if it doesn't work out,
how are we gonna you know, get together from here
on out. But no, it's been fine and it's been
really fun.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
There you go, Amanda, thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I have a good day.

Speaker 12 (11:17):
So it worked for you, right, I mean yeah, people,
I just think people are in a certain kind of
mood at a wedding, especially I think and I don't
mean to make this, you know, a male female thing.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
But I think single women start to feel a certain
kind of way of weddings if they want to be married,
because it's like they're watching it happen for someone else,
but then it's not happening for them. I guess, I
guess I just I as a man, I'm not familiar
with a guy who's been to a wedding and sat
there and was like, man, I wish it were me.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
You don't ever feel that, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
No, because it's short of meeting the person who I
and this is nothing I guess anyone I've dated. But like,
I don't know that I want to be married. I
don't know that I'm ever going to get married. And
I don't say guy I meantity when I should be
married to. So I don't sit at a wedding and
go I wish it were me because I don't know
the person that I should be doing it with. Okay,
And I don't think a lot of guys are as

(12:10):
into weddings as women are, so I don't know. I mean,
I've sat at weddings before. We're single guys, so they're
not they're not leaning over to me going, this is
so beautiful. I wish I were standing there. No one, no,
no man has ever said that to me. Oh, but
I think it's kind I don't know. Our weddings kind
of typically more of a female thing. I would say,
so I think I think so, so, then I don't

(12:32):
Yeah so then, but habit, you had friends at weddings
being like, oh, someday, I hope it's me, or I
hope I have the wedding like this or something like that.
You guys don't say that to each other.

Speaker 13 (12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I go every wed and I go to I'm like, okay, yeah,
I like how they did that. I'm going to do
that my wedding one day. I like how they did that.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I'm not doing my wedding one day. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And then you scan the room for the single man
after a couple of cocktails and you're like, potential grooms
in here.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
So yeah, women think like that.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, from my perspective, that's how I've thought at weddings.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
But like, yeah, I don't know. I just want to
go sometimes, that's what I want to go home.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
What is the earliest possible opportunity for an eggship that's
not considered that's where I'm at. Yes, I'll get on
Tinder and find my own Papa. Thanks for having us
on the radio, on the iHeart app live and anytime
search for the Fresh Show on demand. So how would
you feel about this? Eight five five five nine one
one three five. A groom to be recently shared his

(13:24):
dilemma on Reddit, which is where I get a lot
of these. I must, I must give credit where credit
is due. I don't know it. I know some a holes,
but I don't know enough to be able to do
I know some immoral people, but I don't know enough
to do morality Monday on a Tuesday every week unless
I did a lot of research.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
So I do it just all your friends every week?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
You just which one of you want to do immoral
evans and yeah, So this happened to somebody, though it
didn't really, So here's this is the gist of it.
A dude's fiance plans to wear her late husband wedding
ring on a chain around her neck during the wedding

(14:05):
ceremony to the new guy. So her husband is dead, okay,
and she's going to she wants to wear the wedding ring.
I guess his wedding ring that from when they were
married before he died around her neck when she marries
another guy, the next guy Okay, She says it's a

(14:26):
quiet tribute to the guy she once loved, who passed
away in a tragic car accident five years ago. She
believes the law shaped who she is today and wants
to carry that part of her past into the new chapter.
But her fiance's not feeling great about him. He says
it makes him feel like he's sharing the most important
day of his life with someone who isn't there, and

(14:46):
like he's somehow second place. And people on the forum
are torn. Some stood with the groom, saying the wedding
should be about the new relationship, not the old one.
Others suggested a compromise, like a symbolic gesture instead of
wearing the ring. I would if I'm being one hundred
percent transparent, if I'm keeping it on on the reel,
one hundred percent on the one, if I'm being one

(15:07):
hundred with you, okay, please, I'm gonna be one hundred
with you as opposed to the ninety nine I usually am. Yeah,
I'm gonna be one hundred. I wouldn't like him I
wouldn't like him. I wouldn't like it.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
You wouldn't be either, No, I would not.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, good because you're like, yeah, I know, I know, Fred,
I know Fred, You weak, little weak little nugget. No, no,
you can you imagine if Hobby in Vegas at the
wedding had a ring around his neck of a that
he game to another woman who's dead.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
See, okay, I have compassion.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You would not.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, I'd be upset. I'd be bothered for sure. But like,
it's sad if that person tragically died. I mean that's awful.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Nobody's saying that's not sad or awful, but like, yeah,
why are we I mean you're marrying me now, Like
can this day be about us?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Why are we still reflecting on this person? I'm so
sorry this person died. I'm sorry this person is not
in your life anymore. But the feeling that it would
give me is and is pretty clear. If that dude
weren't dead, I wouldn't be standing here. You never would
have chosen me, This wouldn't even obviously, this wouldn't even
be happening. True. Yeah, well, I know I don't think
i'd be reminded of that.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't need to be reminded of the person that
I'm marrying now and committing to the rest of my
life with. Would probably rather be with someone else if
they weren't dead.

Speaker 14 (16:25):
Yeah, it takes a special kind of person to be
with a widow. I don't think everyone can do it.
But I'm in a similar situation. Actually, one of the
bachelorettes I have coming up, her previous boyfriend passed away
and it was tragic, and his mom wants to pay
for something on her bachelorette for a new guy. She's
getting married to a new guy and her mom, her
former boyfriend's mom, wants to pay for something for us,

(16:46):
like a table or a night when we go out. Yeah,
And but some of my friends, which I don't think
it was their place to say, are like, no, completely unacceptable,
like that's you shouldn't be doing that, Like your fiance
is going to be upset.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
And I don't know, I thought that.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That was kind of why Yeah, yeah, to you, it's
kind of interesting, like I'm gonna pay for you guys
to go ahead and get hammered.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, for the why did the best work at the wedding?

Speaker 14 (17:09):
Yeah, but she, like I guess, feels like this is
the closest she's going to get to.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Like I don't know, her son getting married.

Speaker 15 (17:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
She's like happy for her. She still talks to her.
So it is. But it is interesting, that's nice.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's something. It'sn't even marrying a widow, Like it's not
even it's even so much that it's it's okay, I'm
marrying a widow. So I'm already aware that you were
fully in love with another guy. I actually just happened
to a family member of mine, and I've never discussed
it with her. I've discussed it with her family though.
And this dude sadly went on a business trip. The

(17:43):
company had private jets. There were two private jets. Everybody
piled in one or the other. There was no rhyme
or reason one made it the other one didn't, and
so there was I don't know the inside of their relationship,
but from what I understand, they were relatively newly married,
like everything was fine, you know, and then he's gone, right,
so she moved. I'm married another guy. I had kids
with him. Everything's great, And I wonder, like I wonder,
does that guy ever lay up at night and be like, man,

(18:06):
you know, if that dude hadn't tragically died, like I
wouldn't even be here. I wouldn't have my kids, I
wouldn't have any of this. Like maybe I would have
had it with somebody else, but like that, I'm admitting
that's an insecurity, but that would get to me, I think,
But but it's that that's life. But now I got it.
Now you've got to have like something tangible with you
at the wedding. To me, I'm trying to really like

(18:26):
sure resemble him, Like guys we're moving on like right at.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
The wedding, probably not see if Howby did that, we
wouldn't be at the Little White Wedding Chapel. I think
we'd be honestly in therapy to work through that because
it's like, why would you want to include that on
your special day?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Are you really ready to do this? If we're still
reflecting on the best I guess that would be my question.

Speaker 14 (18:44):
Have anything from their previous you know, marriage or like
a photo or.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Anything, I mean, and how it exists, like we can
put them away. I'm not saying I don't want them,
you know, like plastered on the living room wall when
you walk in. Probably not, but I would still understand
that this happened. Like you said, it's a part of
his history, right, I mean she didn't do anything to me.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I mean she passed away.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Right, Theoretically, in this theory, we're doing like she passed away,
and I don't want him to forget her.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
But on our special day, probably not.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
This is today is about us because you're loving a
not complete person.

Speaker 14 (19:14):
I feel like at that point, like a part of
their heart will always be with the spouse that they
thought they were going to spend the rest of their
life with.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
And that's totally fair.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
But like on our special day at least you know,
it's my wedding too, right, it's a two people event.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's you know, for yourself. I watched it can be
a multiple person event. It depends where you live.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
You know, it could be correct, it can be. But
my mind, for example, me and we too of us.

Speaker 14 (19:40):
Right, That's why I'm saying I don't think everyone can
handle that situation.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I really don't think that. I agree, just my opinion.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean, what, Jason, you're over here with this look
on your face of disgust, like honestly, like, okay, so,
so Mike the mechanic wants to marry you, and he's like, hey,
but this dude, I hope that with on grinder a
while ago, like I need I need to make sure
that I he left his chain in my house.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
It's a little different, but for multiple years.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Okay, But honestly, though, do you want a person who
is who is essentially you're replacing them? I mean, okay, okay,
imagine this, imagine imagine okay, you're you're my beloved co worker. Right,
you're my beloved co worker. God forbid, I hate this example,
but God forbid you decide I'm going to I'm I'm

(20:26):
gonna move on. I'm going to go and be Britney
Spears's manager. And everyone's happy, well sort of happy for you. Yeah,
I mean like it's a little late in the game
for that, but you know, still, okay, so you're gonna
be Britney Spearers's manager. We're also happy for you. We're
clapping or whatever, and then you know, it's it's a
wonderful it's.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
A wonderful day's great.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Like, you know, here's to the Shelly goodfellow whatever. Okay,
So then we have to replace you. Sadly, it's terrible,
but we have a picture of you right there in
your chair that stares at the new person every single day,
and it says, we miss so we miss you so much,
Jason Brown, you know, to the greatest person to ever
sit in this chair, Jason Brown, you know. And the

(21:04):
new person has to sit there and stare at that
all morning. I mean, it might be true, but what
I'm saying is nobody wants that daily reminder that like
there was somebody greater than me here.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
That's completely it all. It is completely different. This is
with someone passed away. I didn't die, but you don't
hear anymore better even crazier people I've somehow found them.

(21:37):
But that's so different. There's nothing like I can't even
imagine the pain of losing a spouse, so I look
at I have.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I have not been through that.

Speaker 9 (21:48):
There.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I cannot say one single thing about how you deal
with it.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
That pain is like I can.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Fashionable to even think about how that you feel like,
you can feel all you want, but I would have
to be fine with It's not like it's competition.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
He's gone, Yeah, but don't don't my feelings about this matter.
I'm marrying you now, it's about me now, it's not
about that person. I'm so sorry for what happened. But
I feel like if we're honoring your ex husband at
your new wedding, I mean, listen to that sentence, that doesn't.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Say anything about the grief and how she deals with it.
I'm sorry, absolutely my opinion, you didn't, you know, go
through that.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
She did. So whatever she needs to do to feel better,
that's what she gets to do.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, at your wedding. At your wedding, we're going to
honor another guy, Jason.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
If someone died that they were married to, who am
I to say?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
You don't get too honestly, the.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
New husband, it doesn't matter. Goodness, the pain away. It's
so quiet over here.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Oh, because I was trying to figure out whose side
I'm on today.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
I think I want to be that's the coin. I
want to be on the right side todays.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Right, It's welcome. It's nice over here.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Because the person is dead, so like literally, they're never
going to be your competition, competing with the goal.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Never.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true.
I think if a person is still honoring their ex
husband at the wedding to the new person. You are
constantly being compared to that honoring.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
First of all, it's just me.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm wearing the chan a symbol of somebody I love
that has passed on.

Speaker 14 (23:25):
Yes it, I mean for you would have to walk
away like I did it bother you. Then you would
have to say, listen, this is not for me. I
can't handle that.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
She's not wearing his chain, She's wearing his wedding ring
her neck. Oh my god, what do you want me
to do? Yes, no, she can keep it. I don't
melt it down. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying
to destroy the human being. I mean, I'm we're moving on.
We're moving on to Cleveland. Hey, Roberta, Roberta, how you doing?

(23:54):
What did you want to say? This is nuts? You
guys are crazy.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
I agree with me.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
Why is he like, why is the comparing himself to
a ghost like? Why he feels like he's in competition
with him? Like he knew what he was Vidimantu, He
knew that she was a widow, and he knew that
she loved that she loved him.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
But isn't memory enough?

Speaker 16 (24:14):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
What, Roberta, are you married? Are you married? Yes? Would
you have been okay with your husband honoring another woman
who he was previously married to at his wedding to you?
Come on, Roberta, come on, there's a time and a
place for this stuff. I'm not saying his memory. I'm
not saying that it wasn't there. It's been a fun

(24:37):
time in your life. But I mean, so you tell
me when I take your clothes off at the end
of the night. I got to look at the wedding
ring of the dude from before.

Speaker 11 (24:47):
It's like a tattoo. Is somebody had a tattoo, you know.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
Or the tramp stamps, you know, like it's stating a reminder.
But why are you like he knew who's getting.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Tram stamp with him? Roberta, what kind of tattoo is you?

Speaker 11 (25:02):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I'm worried about you.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
I got a lot.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
How are you doing?

Speaker 17 (25:07):
So?

Speaker 11 (25:07):
You know that some women get their their spouses names
on them, although they shouldn't, but you know, it's it's
like that, but like this person is bad, Like why
is he trying to like why is he trying to
compete with him?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Why am I being reminded of him too? I guess
it's going to be hard enough to just it came
onto the original point. The amount of trauma that must
you know, that you must endure to process something like
that is extreme, like and there's no one questioning that.
But I guess I would wonder if we're doing that,
are you really ready for me? I guess would be

(25:43):
the question that I would be asked.

Speaker 11 (25:45):
But do you not think that they had the conversation beforehand?
Like I'm sure that he was aware that he meant
something really special to her because that was her husband
at some point, so he should have had that in
the back of his mind before he asked her to
marry him.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, but he also he's gone to read it because
he feels a little shocked by this gesture, like he didn't.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
See this be a man he doesn't know how to communicate.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean, he wrote very clearly. I read it so.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
A good day.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I don't think anyone is saying that you don't honor
what was I just don't know if that's the time
and the place and the way to manifest him, because
because I do think you also have to consider how
it makes the person you're marrying feel that person's feelings
matter too in this but the grief.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
That comes with losing a spouse.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And then I'm back at this wedding place where I
only saw this for my past husband. So it's like
it's something that made me makes her feel safe in
that moment to like I'm doing this again. I'm trying
to love again without the fear of losing this person again.
It's just a little sense of comfort, like a blanky.
I cannot bring my blanket, like you.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Know, why is your dead husband your comfort? I'm your comfort.

Speaker 14 (26:53):
It tastes a special kind of person and it's okay,
Like everybody's feelings are valid.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
If it's not working for you, that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Period to want to hide. Hi, Hey, so sad that
you were in a situation like this, and I am
sorry didn't you encountered this?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Thank you? I would with some one for ten years.
We had three boys together and unfortunately he passed away
and about four in, almost five years later, I met
someone else. We were married. My system also my previous
marriage was my matro of honor. Her husband helped pay
for our limo and we're still very active in each

(27:34):
other's lives. We go on vacation together with each of
his families and everything. So I think it just depends
on how mature you take the situation. I'm sure that
my husband probably feels a certain way, but because we
have children together, he just wanted to give them as
much love as he could, knowing if they had a loss.

(27:55):
So I just think that sometimes you have to think
about that person is all over with you, and if
it was you that passed away, would you want your
wife to forget about you and never ever think about
you ever again? No, I think that's hard to say
if you haven't been in a situation.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
No to what, I wouldn't, But I also I wouldn't.
I guess I can tell you I wouldn't expect to
be honored in any way at her wedding to another man.
I don't think that's the time and the place. I'm
not saying that you shouldn't be friends with your I
mean everything that you just said is completely reasonable. You
have kids in a family, you didn't ask for any
of this, that's all reasonable. I just don't know why.
You know we we have the ice sculpture of the

(28:33):
man at the rehearsal, like I don't know, Like I
don't know, we don't we don't need to do that,
you know.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
What I mean?

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, I sculpture might be a little much.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
You wanted to wear the necklace. I mean maybe not
on her neck per se, but maybe intertwine in her
garter or something like that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I mean, I don't think we needed any closer to
the virgin than I just think there's a time and
a place. But hey, I thank you for sharing, and
I'm sorry that happened to you, and I appreciate your.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Perspective your friend, and I hope that everything turned out
great for her.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Thank you so much. Luckily I don't know this person,
because if I did, I wouldn't I would be uninvited
to the wedding. Hey, Kyle, how you doing here? Good morning? Hey,
turn the radio down, Kyle, please, Okay, there you go.
Hey man, what do you want to say? Go ahead?

Speaker 13 (29:22):
Hey, I'm just I agree with you. I mean the
guy unfortunately he passed away. But at the same time,
like he don't need to remember that at my wedding
because hey, this is my day, Like why you take
my tign off of me. And no, it's not about
being a competition or anything. But how would you feel
if I want my ex wife's brain as she passed away,
You're gonna have a whole feat.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah. I don't think that would go over very well
with very many people. But thank you, Kyle, have a
good day. I appreciate you now. But somebody said, here's
the thing somebody sat on here. What did they say?
Fred isn't ready to marry a widow because he's not
accepting it for fully. First of all, I don't know
what you're talking about that is in his case by case,
I'm talking about a particular case where it seems like
a woman is not necessarily over her previous marriage. That's

(30:05):
what it seems like to me. But I don't think
we're considering the other side of this. I think we're
only considering the needs of this woman. Okay, because as
a guy who has dated people who have lost their
previous significant other, I'm accepting of that person's situation. But
I think that person needs to be accepting of mine,
which is that I'm going to be insecure about this

(30:27):
man that you loved and didn't do anything wrong. This
isn't a breakup. This isn't a divorce. I mean, you know,
everything was fine and then they were gone, and that
is awful, right, But like that's gonna be difficult for
me too. So why are we Why do we have
to put that in my face on that day? I
guess it'd be the question that I'm asking because as
much as I am going to be obviously I'm marrying you,

(30:49):
I'm accepting of of whatever you've been through, I think
you also have to accept the fact that, wow, I
wouldn't even be here if that hadn't happened. And you
know that's aiant relationship that that ended with zero closure.

Speaker 14 (31:03):
Did they say how long she had been widowed before
they started to get Mary.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
It didn't say. And by the way, someone says that
screams insecurity. Yeah, I said that from the beginning. It does.
I'm insecure about it.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I'm very honest.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm telling you. I know it's an unpopular opinion. I'm
just telling you what I.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Think, and I respect that. I respect that. I mean,
I think we should all be able to spare our opinions.
And that's okay.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I did say from the beginning when I told you
I was keeping it on the reel. It's an unpopular opinion,
and you guys can count on me all day. But
that's what I think I have agree with you, and
it would be it would absolutely be an insecurity. Absolutely
it would.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Be because I don't know if you ever get over.

Speaker 14 (31:41):
That, because it wasn't there's no closure, there wasn't any problem. Yeah,
So it's like you say, she's not over it. I
wonder if you ever do. I mean, who knows?

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Speaker 4 (32:25):
You don't stop that, boy, I'm loward to God.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, honestly, I've had enough Sabrina Carporenter with that single espresso.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
But Kiki, you got what double express?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
The Fred Show is. Are you flossing your teeth right now?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Sh hat her mirror out and she went checking her teeth. Yes,
that's why I look over.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
To I don't want to talk to you with something
in my teeth.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I look over and is she over here flossing her teeth?

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah? No, Now she's got her toothbrush out.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Jason's doing his nails. I'm like, what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
You should see?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
And the body groom and can wait till later, Jesus,
come on, not here, not now, at least put a
tarp down. The freend Show is on. It's stay or
go all right. Daniel is here, Hi, Daniel, Good morning,
Good morning Daniel. What's going on with this is you're

(33:24):
a married man, okay, and you got some kids and
your wife is up to something. You think, maybe what's
the situation?

Speaker 18 (33:33):
So I wanted to get some advice, you know, relationship advice.
So my youngest daughter mentioned something to me about mommy's
new friend, Jeff's house. So I was, you know, kind
of caught off guard by that. So I asked my
wife she told me their kids. You know, my daughter
made friends at the park with this girl, and they

(33:55):
went over to their house, the new friend's house, for
a playgate, and Jeff.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Is their dad.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Kay, Jeff is all right, all right, So the kids
are playing and they go over to Jeff's house. Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 18 (34:08):
And so I was just a little put off by that,
Like my wife didn't tell me. I had to find
out through my daughter. And so I guess the way
I'm feeling. Am I wrong to be bothered at? My
wife was married to me. Obviously went over to a
single man's house. This is a single dad, and I
didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't think this is a problem. Why is this
a problem? It's not Why is this a problem? I mean,
the kids are playing like, it's not the kid's fault
that you know Jeff got divorced or whatever. Sorry for
your love, right, I'm sorry. What if Jeff's gay? Do
we know? What do we know about Jeff? How much
do we know about this man? I mean, I mean,
I'm being honest. I'm not I'm not invalidating your concern.

(34:46):
I just I think, like, do you do you always?
Are you always fully briefed on the on the relationship
status of the parents of the playdate. Honestly, and I'm
not again, Daniel, I'm not making funny here, but I'm serious.

Speaker 18 (34:58):
No, I mean, and I can in front of my
wife and she said, you know, it's not a big deal.
She just the fact that she didn't bring it up,
you know me suspicious. And you know, obviously I'm a
little insecure about it. And I you know, I think
if the tables were turned and I was stay at
home dad and I went to a single mom's house,
I would be, you know, have the wherewithal to tell
my wife, Hey, I'm going over to you know whatever

(35:20):
Stacy's house and you know, hang out with it, you know,
just so you're aware of what's going on, the fact
that it wasn't you know, you mentioned to me put
me off.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I had to find out through my daughter.

Speaker 18 (35:29):
And then the way she said, she's like mommy's new friend.

Speaker 13 (35:32):
Jeff.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Okay, Well, the wording of that was a little like
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put a crazy one
out there for you because I am crazy, so I
can do that. Let's say that your wife went over
to Samantha's house, and Samantha had a couple of kids.
We're not worried about that, right, We don't say anything
about that about Samantha a single mom.

Speaker 18 (35:53):
Right, Sure, No, I'm not worried about that, because it.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Turns out Samantha's and lesbian turns but it turns out
his wife is exploring, experimenting. Turns out's saying. I'm just
saying if it were a woman, we wouldn't say anything
about this, and we wouldn't say anything because we don't
think there's a sexual threat, because that's what this is about.
This is about the potential for a sexual threat, when

(36:19):
really it's about the kids playing. Now, I admitted last hour,
I'm an insecure person. This doesn't bother me because why
I'm married to this person. Why are they automatically cheating
on me? If they're alone with a single person. That
could be happening anywhere.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Why, old chuse, why are you in the house where
the kid's supposed to play at a park.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
The kids play at a park.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
You don't need to be a Tim's house or John's
house without telling me anything. John could be a serial killer,
and you got you and my kids in that house,
and no one has said anything to me.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Absolutely not. But Samantha could be a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Samantha, Samantha could, But I know John might be for real, I'm.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Not no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
My man doesn't need to be any other woman's house
without my.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Knowledge, you guys. If she were alone, if she were like,
if the kids weren't there, yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Not the kids might have been in the basement playing
at her And what Timmy.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Jeff? Yeh mom's friends.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, ye stands playing.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
People are texting that, they're saying, why are they saying
Jeff's mommy's friend Jeff's house and not my friend Susie right,
like you know the age of the kid, Like maybe
that's but you you guys.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I am in the look. I am insecure in relationships
many I have a lot of unreasonable thoughts about what
I am into and what I'm not into and what
I think is cool, what I don't think is cool.
But I have to tell you when it comes to
the kids, I mean, there's there are going to be
situations where one parents they are the other parents, not

(37:43):
single parent, moms at work, dads at work, you know,
soccer practice. Mom's there, Dad took the kids, mom.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
And sister, wives, everybody.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I'm just saying, why do we automatically jump to there
has to be infidelity.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I don't think in fidelity. My concern is maybe I
over communicate with my husband. But do people not talk
at the end of the night where it's like you're
in bed being about to you know, chuck yourself in. Oh,
how was your day?

Speaker 4 (38:09):
All was good?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
We went to Jeff's house and little Susie played with
little Jimmy and they had a great time. Like why
are they not telling each other this? I tell my
husband everything. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I was here today,
we did this.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Be more concerned, Pauline, if it were over explained to me. Now,
Jeff's a single day, but you have nothing to worry
about it because the kids. I'd be like, wait a minute,
workout it.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
But he's gay. No, not even that.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
It's just like, I feel like you just communicate with
your partner and say, how is your day?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
What did you do? Would you see? Where'd you go? Like,
I don't know, it's a little panther.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
No, do you have any suspicion of your wife? Otherwise?
I think I'm not invalidating your feelings because the are
a lot of people apparently did agree with you that
think it's inappropriate. I guess when it comes to the kids,
I guess I don't necessarily think you get to choose,
you know, the marital status of the parents of the
kids that your friends befriend, right.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I tend to agree with you co hosts.

Speaker 18 (39:00):
I think everything should be out in the open and
have an open line of communication. If there's nothing to hide,
then ure's nothing you can't say, then just to be
open and just whether and if she went to a
female's house. I'd like to know that too, just for
the fact that we're married, we're life partners. Our lives,
you know, do revolve around each other and our children.
So it's nice to know if God forbid, something does

(39:22):
happen where.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
She was, what she's doing.

Speaker 18 (39:24):
So I think that's only fair an open line of
communication and a marriage to me, and I would offer
her the same respect from my dvantage point. If the
table's returned, so me not getting it, it's just alarm
bells went off.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, and I hear what you're saying. I just think
there are far more sinister ways to conceal infidelity then
play dates out and maybe it's maybe it's like you know,
right out in the open, maybe you should be worried
about this because it's just so obvious that. But at
the same time, if you don't suspect your wife, if
you don't suspect she's a cheater, if you've never suspected

(39:58):
she's a cheater, then why are we put that on
her now? In this one situation that is pretty easily explainable,
the kids met at the park, they hung out. It's
not as though you can say, no, kids, I'm sorry,
but we can't go over to that house because daddy
says that Jeff's a predator and Daniel, I'm just I mean,
it sounds ridiculous and again not making fun of you,
but like, come on, you know what I mean. It's

(40:19):
not as though she I don't think we targeted the
guy in the playground. Hey, kids, go play with those
kids because daddy's hot, you know what I mean. I
find it a respect. I wouldn't do that on my end.

Speaker 18 (40:31):
I wouldn't go to a single our female's house, whether
single or marriage. Just to me, it would be just
putting yourself in a situation where it's not necessary.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
So I just wouldn't do that.

Speaker 18 (40:41):
So I feel like I should be given that in return,
as you know, equal boundaries. And it's just not even
putting myself in the situation. It just temptation isn't even there.
There's you know, because that's what leads to others things.
It's just it can easily go down that path. So
I'd rather not even dabble.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm gonna saying in the came with your partner at
the end of the night, when you're having your tea,
whatever you guys do together at night, your wine.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Just say this is how my day went. That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
But keeps taking it too far now, just because you're
a single mom all of a sudden, like you're attempted.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Come on, like, relax, what's at Jeff's house that's not
at our house?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Maybe Jeff maybe he's the cool guy with the bounce
house or the no no, maybe it's the loo.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
You gotta be the loop because they were in the backyard.
They say, we were in their house.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Hey, why what's in Jeff's house that is not at
our house?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I come on, he don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I don't say leave your wife, but you need to investigate.
You need to go to work and circle the block
and pop up.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Let's see what house you.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Guys, we can't just suspect our partners are cheating all
the time, just automatically because we're alone with another single person, Like,
we just can't do that. Let me take some let
me take some phone casts. Daniel, have a great day.
Thanks calling.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yes, I don't even know. They don't have to be
single for things to happen.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Also, there's so many other ways this could be sis.
And I'm just guys, come on and people are like, Fred,
you're wrong. But guys, last hour, I told you I'm insecure.
At this hour, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
About a ghost.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I amout a ghost. But in this hour, guys, I can't.
I cannot. If I'm married to someone, I cannot constantly
police who they're with and when and why. Okay, so
she goes to work and there's a single guy the
cubicle next to her. They're doing it.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
No, No, they're at work. There at work, they're not.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
That doesn't mean anything. Did you see a story in
Charlotte last week and the people who at work, and
they go to the top of the parking garage and
they're doing it in the back of the car. And
it went viral in all of the world, all over
TikTok because these people were doing it in the middle
of work.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Imagine what they're doing in the back of a Forerunner
where there's a bed. Imagine what you write you.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Guys, Come on, Megan, Hi, Megan, good morning.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Hi, good morning. I cannot believe I got through.

Speaker 7 (42:56):
But anyways, I think it definitely needs to be a conversation.
I'm not saying he needs to go, but there needs
to be more of a conversation. The little girl said,
mommy's new friend. The little girl didn't say my new friend.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
I think it doesn't matter. Like kids know like kids,
kids are smart, and so I think that the way
that the little girl phrased it, she didn't talk about her.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
New friend Susie.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
She talked about mom's new friend Jeff's house. Whether Jeff
has kids or Jeff's single, it doesn't matter one way
or the other.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
The way that this was set up was.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
Mom was going to her friend's house. The little girl
didn't go to her friend.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
My sister thought she was a horse when she was
a toddler.

Speaker 14 (43:38):
You know, like, maybe she just phrased it that way.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I don't know that. I mean, you're right, maybe there's
a raw honesty from a child that you know is
truly revealing. But someone texted, I'm being disrespectful or insensitive
about this. No, I'm not. What I'm doing is I'm
not automatically running to infidelity. He did. That's his concern,

(44:06):
and I'm not being I'm not being insentitive, but I'm
I'm I'm arguing that I don't think that's fair to her,
a person who he's married to and trust and had
kids with, and says admittedly on our show, he's had
no reason to doubt her. And now all of a sudden,
their kids meet a single dad, and now automatically he's
they're they're they're sleeping with each other. Guys. That's yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
I'd want to.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Invest I'd want to talk to a kid more and
be like, where did you meet this person? Because mom said, oh,
the kids met at the park. How do we know
the kids really met at the park. The mom can
tell the kid, oh, yeah, this is the friend you
met at the park the other day.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Megan, thank you, and I appreciate the call. Have a
good day. I'm a I'm a single guy. I've been
single my whole life. I have tons of married friends
whose husbands are at work, and sometimes we'll go to
lunch or sometimes I've even gone to stuff. I've even
gone to stuff with mom and kid when dad's out
of town, and I'm not pretending to be the dad.

(45:01):
I'm just accompanying because you know, hey, we got this
thing in the park, you know you went. I'm not
sleeping with these people. I'm not staying with his people.
But like it would be, look at you. I think
it's unfair to me as this single guy that we
automatically always target me as the guy who's up to something.
I can't just be friends with a woman who's married
without sleeping with her. It's impossible. Out Yeah, so I

(45:23):
think you're being insensitive me, like type casting me as
a bad dude, or Jeff over here saying Jamie that
you're an idiot, or that you're being ridiculous. But I
guess what I'm saying is I don't think that either
one of those things inherently leads to cheating. I mean,
it's not like you found a hotel room key in

(45:43):
the car too, or like you know, condom wrappers or something.
I mean, I'm being serious, and whatever your concerns are
can be your concerns. But I don't think those two
things in and of themselves mean that someone is cheating. Yeah,
I just.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
Don't want his coworkers stuff to think that he's interested
in her.

Speaker 8 (46:01):
And I really think this opens that door for her.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I mean, woman is using the children to play in
the other room while she cheats on Tad, Like that's
a whole difference thing. While wow, we have apparently Jeff
and mom, the woman that he's married to, that he
committed to life. Apparently she's the worst human being to
involve her children in infidelity. Like, guys, this is crazy.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
I have ton't ask for any of this, and all
of a sudden we're like, makey have like come over
and meet the family.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
You know. Do I think there could be better communication? Absolutely?
But you guys, we cannot just jump to the worst.
We cannot just put this on people all the time,
Like why is everyone to cheat her?

Speaker 15 (46:43):
I have young kids and I will tell you this,
they do not know people's names, like my kids don't
know their friend's parents name, so the fact that they
know the parent's name is kind of suspicious to me.

Speaker 11 (46:53):
My kids barely learn their own friend's name.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, all right, you know, tell me these are all
good points. I appreciate that. I thank you for listening.
Have a good day.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
You're not laughing at you.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
And by the way, we weren't laughing at her at all.
It's just over here stirring it up. Oh yeah, yeah,
you saying it. Look like you've done with these people.
Everyone is cheated? Why who is being insensitive? No one's
being insensitive. I just don't think that it's fair to
label this person as a cheater for this. We don't

(47:27):
know that Aaron high. Hey Fred, how are you Aaron?
We can't just call everybody you cheater every time Kiki
and she does, I know she will. How did you
want to say?

Speaker 18 (47:39):
Aaron?

Speaker 9 (47:39):
Please please tell it about I hate to be if
I'm taking side to your friend. I'm kind of against you.
I hate to say it.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's okay. I don't think I'm used to it.

Speaker 9 (47:46):
I don't think they should go. I think there were
two questions that are important that you didn't ask, and
the first one was the age of the child does
matter because of how she phrased it. Of Jeff's friend,
if she's three or four and saying that is different
than if she's eight insane friend's house. So that's number one.
Number two is I'd be a little bit questionable. I

(48:07):
hate to bring this up. The income of the families.
I kind of have a I talked to a lot
of people, and I am aware that people that are
more affluent, that have more money, are very open to
open relationships and families.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So now that now they're rich, swinging, Aaron, I love you.
Now they're rich and swinging.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I'm just saying I.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Had in front of his so much fantastic. So so
it's possible that their socioeconomic status now.

Speaker 9 (48:45):
I'm speaking, I got I used to teach it, ok
Park and that was very common in the affluence.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Okay, no, fair enough, there's there are some freaky things
when I'm in the suburbs there. Hey, Aaron, thank you,
have a good day. No problem you guys, I don't.
I'm sorry, I just I can't with this. So we
got to do a full vetting process before my wife,
if I were married, before my wife can take my
kids to hang out with.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Just to see his taxes.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
He can we do a full std and blood panel
on this guy. I want to know. I want to
know what Jeff's lipids are like.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
The lady was like, just as the toddler, like, let's
give the toddler that trauma, Like, does he have lot?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
If he has Loti? Nothing's going on.

Speaker 10 (49:30):
Here somehow, Bianca, Hi, Bianca, out of control?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Hi, Banka, Sorry, yeah, Hi, it's your turn. Please say something.

Speaker 19 (49:55):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yes? Of course, yes, Bianca, go, Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 19 (50:01):
I was calling them to say there's no way a
mom with a couple of kids because having an affair,
just because she goes to Jeff's house. We are so tired.

Speaker 11 (50:12):
We are just glad to.

Speaker 19 (50:13):
Have people who want to be with our children and
entertaining our kids. And if I'm giving the choice between
sleeping with somebody else or taking a nap, I'm always
going to take the nap.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Bread girl.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah. I just again, I think it's really unfair to
just say, oh, two people man and a.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Woman, now you're taking a lad. You're taking a naped
Jeff's house.

Speaker 11 (50:36):
I mean I'm gonna be taking a nap if going
to hang out with my.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Kids and play.

Speaker 11 (50:41):
I am totally down. I am in bed.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Be that you're not helping anything. Get out of bed,
get you a good day.

Speaker 13 (50:56):
I'm in my car.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I gotta go. Well, now you're doing in the car,
do it in the car? Will the kids playing? Now
you're a negligent parent too. Somebody calls with an oh
my god, honey, don't walk outside. You might be the
Maleman single. You guys, you guys are crazy. I love Hey.

(51:24):
I'll tell you what if we find out, if we
find out that this woman is cheating, that I take
it all back and I'm sorry, and I will publicly
apologize and I'll be roasted at the at the square.
You can stone me at the square if this is
what happened. But I just don't. I think it's a
I think we're really jumping here. And let me tell
you something else. If I went on the air and

(51:44):
I said, and if I were married with kids, and
I went on the air and I said, yeah, my wife,
you know my my my kids have a school friend
and you know he's a stay at home dad. And
they were over there yesterday while I was at work.
They were having brunch and playing in the backyard and
she's obviously cheating. You guys would crush me, Yeah, you
would crush me. They we don't know the location. We

(52:08):
don't know the venue of the hangout.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
He's at a school friend that has history there. They
made park.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
If I went on and I said, my wife was
hanging out with our kids and a single dad, obviously
she's up to something, you guys would destroy me. What
would you guys do in this situation? A twenty six
year old man his fiance found out that the diamond
he gave her was not real. It was moisonite, a

(52:35):
moistnite diamond. So he explained that he recently graduated and
couldn't afford a real diamond, so he chose, I guess
a lookalike jem that's way more affordable but shines bright.
So he didn't. I guess he was going to get
around to telling her that he essentially bought her a
fake diamond, but he just kind of never got around
to him. All the excitement about the ring and about

(52:57):
being engaged in whatever else, well, here comes the drama.
While shopping for wedding bands, the jeweler revealed the ring's
true identity and His fiance was not impressed, stormed out,
ditched the ring, locked herself in the bedroom, and he's
been sleeping on the couch ever since. He says he
didn't mean to deceive her. He wanted to make her
feel special, but now he's wondering if the truth delay

(53:18):
cost him more than a comfy bed. I'd be wondering
if I'm marrying the right person. Right, you're worried about
if she's mad at you. I'd be worried if I
marry the right person.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
It's pretty dramatic now.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
It would be one thing if he proposed to her,
gave her this huge ring and then said it, told
her this is one hundred percent real, like I spent
thousands and millions of dollars on it. I spent tens
of thousands of dollars on this thing. You used to
be so grateful to me for this. That would be
one thing. But I don't think he did that. I
think he gave her the ring and he didn't tell
her that it wasn't real, and she was so excited
about it, Like why would you sort of shoot yourself

(53:49):
in the foot like that, like immediately like here, here
is this gesture we're getting engaged at this beautiful ring
by the way, fake, I don't think anybody would do that.
You were, I mean not right then? Yeah, I mean
he didn't lie and say it was real. He just
didn't tell her that it wasn't. And what difference does
it make he proposed to her. It's a symbol, right,
So what would you guys do in this situation, like

(54:11):
if roles were reversed, because obviously you guys, many of
you are the ones receiving the ranks hopefully well not you, Kiki,
But no, you're not wrong. Yeah, I mean would you okay?
Would you truly be okay with a fake ring from
Big Tim over? No ring?

Speaker 13 (54:26):
No?

Speaker 4 (54:26):
No, no?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
At this point, absolutely my ring must be real because
I've waited this long.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
And part of his reasoning is money, right, it.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Has to be real and it has to be what I
like at this point.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Now, if we were just if we were being Ham
and his girlfriend and we know young whatever, sure, whatever
you give me, I'm happy, We'll we'll upgrade later.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
But now it's too far in the game. But however, if.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I was in this situation, I would question if I
want to marry you after you reacted like that over
a moys not ring. They're still there's still a ring, yeah,
still diamonds.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Well, and the thing is like, in Big Tim's case,
if in fact he's been telling you all this time
for seven eight years, I have a long it spent
that he's waiting to save up to get you there,
then he can't give you a fake ring after all that.
Absolutely not, he can't. He has to give you a
very nice ring. If he's been saving for all this
time and that's the only reason that he hasn't proposed
to you, then the ring better be legit.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
But if you're young and you don't have a lot
of money and it's starting out in life and it's
you're really in love and intent on getting married, and
that's what you could afford, and that's what you give
the person, then so long as you don't lie about it,
so authenticity, I guess I don't see the problem, right, No.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
No, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
I am somebody who actually is married for two years
now technically.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
I she's actually married, not the fraudulent marriage we thought
all this time. I was like, no one really believes it,
but you're telling me it's real.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Okay, yeah, I very much cificate around all the time.

Speaker 14 (55:46):
I mean I was there right right, you got your
diploma and then your marriage certificate, I carry about.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, I was present for the fake wedding. I thought
it was weird that you had your college diploma in
your hand when you got married. But you know, you know,
you're prouduct I got.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Things approval all the time, so right, whip them both out.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
But I honestly feel that in this could just be
me speaking now that I'm on the other side of this,
but like.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
A lot of the stuff doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
And I promise you it doesn't. Like I know, people
do the whole you know, big ring. You know, we're
in tons of debt thing, they do the big wedding.
We're in tons of debt.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
We're in tons of debt. They do a whole thing.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
And now that I'm on the other side of it,
and I look at it and I'm like, very happy
that I didn't do a Yahoo wedding because I wanted
a Yahoo house, like when I have yeah who backyard,
So I knew like where my priority stood. And I
think a lot of people forget that when it comes
to marriage, Like yes, the ring and the wedding and
all that it should be special and beautiful.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
And I agree, and it should be what you want.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
I'm not shaming you for wanting what you want, but
when you look at the other side of things, like, honey,
this economy and the way that things are with housing,
and just the bigger picture of marriage, because when you
get married, you're gonna combine your life together, so like,
are we gonna upgrade our home, our cars, so we're
gonna have children?

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Like these things to me are more important and cost
a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
It's pollin. It sounds like this this woman would rather
this twenty six year old man go into debt, yes
on a who can't afford for something that looks the
same as what she wound up receiving. Now again, if
he said to her, oh, you should be so grateful
to me because this is so real and so expensive,
Well that's a lie. That's awful, you know, that would
if you're passing it off as something that it's not.

(57:14):
But it's the symbol, right, And I know it's easy
for me to say because I don't think I could
probably I probably couldn't get away with that, you know,
getting somebody a fake ring but I also I've also said,
for as long as you've done this show that I
don't think anybody should be spending money on a ring
that they don't have, because to your point, it's like,
why am I spending Why am I going to go
into debt and pay interest on a ring that I
can't afford? So that to keep up with the Jones,

(57:36):
that's what it is, so that you can brag to
your friends about how basically how broke I am, you
know what I mean. And then and then and it's
going to hold us. If it's going to hold us
back from paying bills or upgrading our home or having
a home or whatever, well then that defeats the purpose,
doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
I think.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
So I feel like these things, like again, they don't
matter as much as we think they are.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
I mean, you're entitled to want what you want.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I'm not trying to take that away from anybody, but
I'm telling you, like, these things are expensive and it's
not worth it to post on Instagram so that my
little friend from high school that I don't even talk
to anymore can see my ring.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I see this happen in real life all the time,
and I'm like this is goofy my hot take.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Jason Mike the Mechanic proposes with a moys To Night ring.
Would you accept it?

Speaker 19 (58:15):
Is?

Speaker 4 (58:15):
What is there? It's actually a diamond? Oh okay, it's.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Like chemically a diamond, but it's not like it's not
a natural diamond.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
I don't care. I can never tell.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Those two would take an onion ring, get a ring,
don't I don't care.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
I would not care.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
And imagine how stupid you look, because now that he's broke,
you're gonna have to go ask somebody for money to
pay for your mortgage.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
But you know you out here begging for money, but
you have this big a ring on your finger that
happens every day, every day.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Well, that's crazy, Laura asked, the question is withholding lying?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
I think so sometimes.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I think it depends he knew what he was doing.
He definitely knew what he was easy. You give someone
a ring that looks like a traditional diamond ring, you're
clearly passing it off for tradition. You're passing it off
for being real. Because if you hand me an engagement
ring that looks like every other engagement ring that looks
like a diamond, I guess I'm assuming it's a diamond,
but I guess I also don't know why it matters.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I feel like it only matters to people who don't
have one, like people with the rings don't never think
about like you know, I wanted, it's a ring real
like who cares well.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
And the other thing is like many many years ago,
before lab grown diamonds were a thing, it did if
you had a huge monster diamond, it did mean someone
spent a ton of money. Now it doesn't necessarily mean
that anymore. Like a big honkerd diamond that's lab grown
in is a quarter of the price of you know
what I mean. So like like you can go get
you a j Lo ring you know it looks like

(59:50):
that for a quarter of the price, which still is expensive.
You're still spending money on it, but it doesn't necessarily
Twenty years ago, if you had a four carrot ring,
somebody spent six figures on that. If you have a
four kre ring doesn't necessarily mean that. So I guess
I don't know why we're that. I debate this all
the time, Like if I actually ever did get married,
it would help to have a girlfriend first. But if
I did, Like, would I spend all the money on

(01:00:10):
a real honker ring that I always intended I would
do when someone else can go spend a quarter or
less of it and have the same look for less
money and everyone thinks it's the same.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Nobody would know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
So that's so I don't know. I don't know what
I would do, because you could argue, well, if you
go buy the real thing, it holds its value and
it's worth more. Well who's you might not be selling it?
Like why you're only selling it if we get divorced.
So I don't know that. I want to help you
in a divorce. So I'm going to get you a
fake as ring, I guess because that way, if you
leave me, then you don't have as much money and
I can keep my money. I don't know, but that

(01:00:43):
used to be the thing, like if you had a huge,
huge ring, Oh man, that guy loves you. That was
he spent all his money on that. Well, now it
doesn't necessarily mean.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
That because that' still happening.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Do people show off their rings like I don't know,
Like wonder if I like, if you had a more
he's a night ring, I wouldn't be like that's mois
And I like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Don't even know what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Is not a lab grown diamond. It's not that's what
someone is text.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
There's three different kinds lab grown, the regular night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I think it's a whole different jem. It's a whole
different things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Gymstone although a lab created one, okay, but not a
diamond technically. I would want to know, and I don't
also want to know.

Speaker 14 (01:01:22):
Yeah, I would want to know, And I'd also rather
have like an heirloom that's smaller.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Than like a Mois and Night ring.

Speaker 14 (01:01:28):
So I guess I'm a weirdo, but I do feel
like if I'm going to wear something on me, I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Should know the facts about it and what's going on
with it in the city.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
What is How does your Urban Dictionary name go? Again?
Klin one of the most attractive people of all time?

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Sanders and good news taste.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Always high standards. I'm one of the hottest people of
all time, wasn't it a Yeah? That's what Urban Dictary
says about Fred. Fred's show is on did a lot
of people that I'm like, well, it never seems to
really work out, and then it's got to be on me.
I wonder and then no, no, And I guess my
parents have had that conversation before because a few years
ago my dad said to me, after you know, a

(01:02:07):
few cocktails, Hey, just so you know, whoever you bring home, guy, girl, guy,
it doesn't matter to us. And I looked at him
and I'm like, do you guys think you were having
this conversation behind? Because you know, if if my dad,
of all, my dad doesn't communicate that much, if he
said it, then that means that there's been a conversation
without me, like do you think and it I mean,

(01:02:30):
it would be fine, but like it's just not, it's
not it's not you know, the same way Jason, you
don't want to be with women anymore?

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
He tried.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Yeah, I did try it. Yeah, I did try it out.
I don't think my parents were sitting around be like
maybe he's straight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
But I was gonna say that there were science, there
were science, they were signed the early But did you
get with women though, because you honestly because you wanted
to or because you thought that was what you were.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Supposed I think it was a mixture of like I
just wanted to, but I also feel like when you're
at like young, like you're just like, this works.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
I guess this will work for now, right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
But I think it was just because, like like you said, like,
it's just you know, that's what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I was gonna say, it's nothing to find a girlfriend.
I know you're friends with some of these people that
you got with, but I just it's like, and nothing
against them, they didn't do anything wrong. But I do
kind of wonder in a in a repressed state, you know,
where it's like, man, I don't I don't know. This
is what my parents might want me to do, or
this is what everyone else is doing. So I'm going
to do that. Yeah, but that's different than trying to

(01:03:30):
see if you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Liked it, right, Yeah, I mean, like you're suggesting I do, right,
But at least if you say I tried it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
You've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. Hey, Sasha, good morning, Welcome to the program.
How are you hi?

Speaker 20 (01:03:43):
Good morning?

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Good So what's going on with this guy? Michael?

Speaker 19 (01:03:47):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Waiting by the phone, of course for trying to figure
out if you've been ghosted? But I mean tell us
how you met and about any dates you've been on,
and you know kind of any information that you can
give us to try and help you figure this out.

Speaker 17 (01:03:58):
All right, So I met this guy Michael on Tinder
and we went out to drinks and we really hit
it off. So we went to a couple of bars,
and while we were like walking from one.

Speaker 20 (01:04:09):
To the next, he really had to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 17 (01:04:12):
And I was like, well, my place is right here
if you want to use my bathroom. But it's like
I'm a bit of a messy person, so I didn't
expect him to come over. So I told him, you know,
please don't judge me, and he said he didn't care.

Speaker 20 (01:04:29):
He really had to pee.

Speaker 17 (01:04:31):
So right after we left my apartment just things felt
really off.

Speaker 20 (01:04:37):
And I mean we went to one more bar, things
felt weird.

Speaker 17 (01:04:40):
And then I haven't heard from him since, and like
before the apartment, it felt like we were really hitting
it off. So I don't know what changed, and I
don't know why he's not responding to my text.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Okay, I get it. So you weren't planning to have
him over, Sasha, So like you didn't clean the house
up really, like didn't make the bed or didn't put
stuff away or whatever, or because you figured, well, this
is the first date. He's not coming over, so who cares.
But then when he had to use the restroom, it's like,
all right, we're gonna go to my house. But you
just need to know that I didn't. I didn't. I
wasn't ready for.

Speaker 17 (01:05:10):
Guests, right right, And like if he was coming over,
I obviously would have cleaned.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
But like, all right, well, I mean that seems innocent enough,
I guess. I mean, unless you've been on an episode
of Hoarders before. Have you been on the show Hoarders before?

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Not yet?

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Not yet? All right, well maybe this is maybe we
see where this is going. But all right, we're gonna
call this guy Michael in just a second. You'll be
on the phone as well. At some point you're welcome
a jump in on the call. And the hope, as
always is that we can straighten this out and then
set you guys up on another date that we pay for.
Sound good, Hey, Sasha, Okay, welcome back. Let's call this
guy Michael. You met on Tinder, You plan to go
out for drinks. You you did meet up with him,

(01:05:48):
he had to use the restroom, so you were near
your home and you were like, well, I'll tell you
what we can pop in here. But I didn't clean
for guests. I wasn't I wasn't prepared to have guests
over tonight. Just the heads up, and he was like, fine,
you went in there. You do wind up going out
and having drinks. But you noticed from the point he
left your house through the drinks the mood changed and
then you haven't heard from him since the date. And
of course you want to know what happened. Okay, Well,

(01:06:11):
let's call Michael now, good luck. Hello, Hi is this Michael? Yes, Hi, Michael,
good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the
Fred's Show, the Morning radio Show, and I have to
tell you that we are on the radio right now
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.

(01:06:32):
Is it okay if we chat for just a second
on the show?

Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I guess yeah, okay, great. Know it is weird. I
admitted that it's weird to get called by a radio show,
And thank you for answering, by the way, and for
talking to us. But you're welcome to hang up at
any time. But we're trying to get to the bottom
of a situation. A woman named Sasha has reached out
to us, do you recall going out with Sasha you
guys met on Tinder? Apparently, yeah, yes I do. Yes, Okay,

(01:06:59):
So what happened? Because she called us and told us
that you guys had met and that she was excited
to hang out with you. She said that there was
a transitioning point of the date. I guess after you
went to her house and used the restroom. She she
told us about you know that, and how she didn't
sort of organize her house or wasn't clean for visitors,
which I think a lot of people can relate to.
But she says that beyond that point, you know, the

(01:07:19):
day got weird and that she hasn't heard from you.
So what happened?

Speaker 20 (01:07:22):
Sure?

Speaker 16 (01:07:24):
So I guess you guys, I can't believe I'm about
to say this, but she sleeps in a dog bed.
I'm sorry, Wait, yeah, so that was she sleeps. She
she she has it like she purchased a bed for
dogs and that's what she uses as her bed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
So like, oh, I need to understand. So you walk
in her bed in her bedroom and like normally there
would be a bed, you know, hopefully like some form
of frame or something, and you know it wouldn't be
on the ground, you know, hopefully we're like, yeah, right,
the box spring we were kind of risen off the
ground little bit and you know, maybe a headboard, some sheets,
you know, kind of think instead you walk in and

(01:08:05):
where that would all be was just a dog bed
and like a blanket. Correct. Are we sure that isn't
her dog's bedroom? You know some some people do that.
Some people have an extra room and they like set
it up like it's their dog's room. Are you sure
that this is where she sleeps?

Speaker 20 (01:08:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:08:20):
No, it was a small it was a small apartment.
It's only one bedroom, and that is where she sleeps.
And I did not see a dog in sight when
we went in there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Oh there isn't even a dog. Oh, there isn't a dog.
And also there's really no confusion there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Hm, let me. I forgot to mention that Sasha is here.
I'm extremely forgetful and I apologize. Sasha, do you sleep
in a dog bed? Which is something I didn't think
I was going to say today.

Speaker 17 (01:08:47):
Yes, but like that's are really expensive and I'm very
good with money, and I don't know if you guys
knew this, but like there are dogs that are like
human size, and if you buy it, that's only like
eighty bucks.

Speaker 20 (01:09:02):
But if you buy a mattress, I mean I can
be over a grand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Girls, I just.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Bought we just bought a mattress and they're a hella
expensive for no reason. There's no reason these mattresses should
be that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Okay, but Jason, why are you nodding your head like
this is a normal, acceptable thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
It's something we haven't thought of.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I do know matresses mattress go up to like
seven grand.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Okay, you do it? You sleep in one mattress?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, I mean at least as they got the air mattress.
It even looks like it has a box freaking it.
You know, you plug it and get it a target
a couple hundred bucks. Maybe this is my question, though,
what do you do when somebody comes over? Like what
if things had gone really well with Michael, you know,
and it's like time to do some stuff. Do you
guys just both crawl into the dog bed or do
you get another dog bed and put it next to it,

(01:09:47):
or like several lick them up together. I mean, what
are we doing here exactly?

Speaker 20 (01:09:51):
It sounds really weird when you say it like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
That, Oh, now it sounds weird, but I mean, yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:09:57):
It's comfortable, it's big enough for you.

Speaker 17 (01:10:00):
But like usually, like I mean, I never bring a
guy over on the first date.

Speaker 20 (01:10:05):
But usually if we like hang out, we'll go.

Speaker 17 (01:10:08):
To the guy's place and then like eventually, like I'll
explain about my dad and like usually guys are like, oh, yeah,
like that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Wait, people are actually like that. They think that's a
normal thing.

Speaker 17 (01:10:21):
I don't think anyone thinks it's normal, but nobody seems
to have a problem with it.

Speaker 20 (01:10:27):
But I guess, like I am so single.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I have never heard of
anything like this before. I think I think it would
probably be good for your health and overall well being
and things like that to just maybe invest in a bed.

Speaker 20 (01:10:45):
I gets dirty.

Speaker 17 (01:10:47):
It's just like a different type of mattress.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Like when you're essentially sleeping on the floor.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
What do you get your food out of? Girl? Or
do you use a dog bowl in a water bowl?

Speaker 12 (01:10:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
No, Like, is this kind of a fetish thing? Does
it go beyond you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Get your haircut and pets?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Smart? Like, what's girl? Because this is crazy? And where
are your family and friends?

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Do you eat milkbones, right? Have you ever had a milkbone?
Did you enjoy the way it tasted?

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
This is insane. Your anal glands express.

Speaker 10 (01:11:16):
Yes, and not for pleasure, for utility.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Do they have to sedate you to clean your teeth?
I'm this is sounding us. Jaesu's life is a lot
like dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Apparently it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I mean, okay, so Michael, look, you liked her up
until that point.

Speaker 9 (01:11:40):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I mean, it doesn't sounding there was much time to
really get to know where. But I am a little
concerned with the sort of thought process here, and you know,
what would lead one to think this was the right
thing to do or a good idea. I'm all for
saving money. I think there are certain things in life
that you know, you said you were good with money,
so you know, I think it's probably worth an investment
in an actual bad and some she and things like that.

(01:12:01):
But Michael, I don't know. You probably have a bed
so she could come over to your house. Would you
consider giving her another chance?

Speaker 8 (01:12:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I don't.

Speaker 16 (01:12:09):
Uh, I don't think I want another date here. Like
I said, if she's that's if that's the choice that
she's making, it's a choice that she's making, but it's
kind of questioned everything that I that I have about her.
So I'm not interested.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Huh, I don't blame you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Have you ever barked at anyone, Sasha?

Speaker 11 (01:12:30):
None?

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
As they ask, Oh, I mean same? I mean again, Jason,
he's finding this far too relatable. Uh, maybe you and
Jason should go out, look, I Sasha, So I don't
think it's going to work out. He's not interested. I
wish you the best you do you whatever makes you
happend morning. Thanks for having us on the radio, on
the iHeart app Live and anytime search for The Fred
Show on demand. This comes from our friends had read it,

(01:12:54):
and he says, I bought a house a couple of
years ago. But I go through hundreds of these. I mean,
I truly curate these. Okay, I want you to know, really,
I don't just take the first what you mean, really business?
There's thousands of them, but I don't keep them in business.
I'm saying, I don't just pick the first one I see.
I'm going to read a bunch of them to find
the one that I think is appropriate.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
That's good, you know. I mean it's like Kiki. She
goes through thousands of cases.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Yeah, man, it's hard it is to pick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
The ones worthy of your courtroom. I bought a house
a couple of years ago, and I've been working on
making it look nicer. I spent a lot of time
redoing the front gardens, trying to make it look neat
and nice. A few weeks ago, rather, I was at
a greenhouse buying some plants for the garden and I
saw two yard flamingos marked down on clearance. I knew

(01:13:39):
that they belonged in my garden. They're not everyone's cup
of tea, but I think they're a lot of fun,
so I set them up when I got home. And
a couple of days later, my neighbor was knocking on
my door and she was demanding I take down my
flamingos because they're ugly and lowering the property value of
the neighborhood, the neighbors said. I told her I am
not taking them down because I like them, and the

(01:14:00):
property value isn't going to be hurt by two yard flamingos.
I also don't live in Hoa, and as far as
I'm aware, there are no town ordinances about yard flamingos.
She's posted pictures of my house, the street that I
live on, in a closeup of my flamingos in our
town's Facebook page to complain about them. Some people agreed
I should take them down. After that, another neighbor came

(01:14:22):
over to tell me to get rid of them. My
mom also agreed that I should take them down to
keep the peace with my neighbor. I like them. I
smile when I see them when I pull my driveway.
I have no plans to take them down. Should I
take down the yard flamingos? Well, okay, so we have
a case here. We have an issue of a person

(01:14:43):
who apparently can put whatever they want in their front yard.
And I'm sure there are people listening who it's the
same way now. I'm also sure there are people listening
who live in an Ahoa, which means, you know, some
people get elected and they decide that they're like you know,
the police, and they come around and they get to
tell you what to do. You can't do this, she
can't do that. I'm on the h you are.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Yeah, I'm the treasurer.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Stop stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I like when you look at me, stop it. Hey,
I don't play about my bag or my hoa stop.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
They put you in charge of the money.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
I think nobody wanted to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Like I think nobody wanted to do it either as well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
I'm on it though.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
I stepped up and I said, I'll be your girl.
I don't even live there anymore, and I'll be your girl.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
You're in charge of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
The money for the hay you are I am. Now,
you're a smart lady. But like you can't get you
to tell us what number the showdown is every day?

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Right, and that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Money be missing, money being up and down? How much
money we have? It depends on the day. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
See money moves around for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
And if you guys might see a new fence at
the hoa at the new property, mind your business.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
If you do, mind your business, if you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
He's actually not allowed to use Venmo because she was
trying to money launder using it or.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Her credit card. I'll love her husband. Yeah, her husband's
credit card.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Oh wow, that's okay, all right. So you like yard flamingos,
you put yard flamingos up, you want them in your yard.
There is no one that can tell you that you
cannot have them. However, your neighbors all apparently think they're ugly,
and even your mom is like, it's not worth it
to make all the neighbors mad. What do you do?

(01:16:19):
What do you do? Do you keep them up? I
might suggest maybe the backyard or something where everyone doesn't
have to look at them, because is it really worth
I mean, you bought these things on clearance. It wasn't
like it was your life ambition to have a yard
with garden or with flamingos in them, or garden homes
or whatever your thing is, So why not put them

(01:16:40):
somewhere where everyone doesn't have to look at them and
they're not an ice sore, and then your neighbors don't
hate you.

Speaker 14 (01:16:45):
No, you're not gonna tell me what color to paint
my house, how to have my lawn. If I want
my flamingos, I own this here yard, I'm gonna have
my flamingos.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
I do also feel envious of the woman whose biggest.

Speaker 14 (01:16:55):
Problem is her neighbor's lawn flamingos. Right, Like, go out
and find a real problem.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
In your life. That's ridiculous, right, that's my that's my experience.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Yeah, you work really hard to save up for this
house or whatever it is, Like and you're gonna tell
me I can put my clear and STA mingles up
like that makes me so angry.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Yeah, I feel like, but it's that ugly that everybody
seems to agree that I might say, is it really
worth it? Is it really worth it? Is this the
hill you want to die on with your neighbors?

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Is this the hill they want to die on? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
But I mean whether it's fair or not. If the
entire neighborhood turns on you, you have a problem, whether
it's right or not.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
I'd be like, are you guys okay?

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
You can't control everybody, and everybody doesn't have to be
the same.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
This is my house.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Is this any different than a person who doesn't take
very good care of their lawn? Is this any different
than a person who doesn't take very good care of
their house and you do? Is this any different than that?
I mean, it's creating an eye sore, right, So people
don't like it?

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Even then, I don't care, Like, it's your lawn. Beauty
is in the eye of the beholder. Okay, wonderful, right,
So thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I want to see your front lawn. You have what
was in your front.

Speaker 9 (01:18:01):
Yard that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
A couple of bushes, and I keep my line trimmed.
And that's it. I don't I'm not getting jazzy with it.
But if I wanted to get jazzy with it, I
would I pay these property taxes.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
That's right, girl.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Do you have an chi a no? H a man,
they won't let you get away with anything.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
We won't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
No, she won't. Hey, Jessica, you say, go buy more?

Speaker 11 (01:18:27):
I absolutely do you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
It's my yard.

Speaker 11 (01:18:29):
I pay for this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
I'm buying more. Go off.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
I mean, I guess, I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:18:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
I'm not much of a rule follower, But I also
would be like, okay, is this really worth it? Because
if everyone's ganging up on me and it's a it's
an untenable situation. You do not want the whole neighborhood
against you. You simply don't. It's bad.

Speaker 11 (01:18:50):
It's you know, it's more worth it to do with then,
because you know what, I didn't do.

Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
Nothing to put up with you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
All right, all right, fair enough, thank you, Jessica. Now,
if you remember, Jason's having an issue in his backyard
with his coy pond, which just sounds so boogy to say,
and you've got pterodactyl birds flying down trying to eat
the koi fish. Right, so you put up. You've tried
many different things and what you've landed on is one

(01:19:17):
of those. If you like, drive by like an auto
parts store, the place they're still tires or whatever, Like
the big tall looking thing with the on the bottom
of it, and it's sort of like it looks like
it's having convulsions or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Yeah, is it working? It seems to be working.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yeah, that being said, all your neighbors get to see
this skuy dancer.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Yeah, if you look at Luckily it's in our backyard
and not in front of our house, which would be wild.
But yeah, I'm sure everyone that has a backyard near
ours is like, what the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
And if someone has a problem with it, I know
you If someone has a problem with it, you're going
to consider.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Their problem, you know what. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
I feel like there's I am a people pleaser, but
like you don't own a lot of things in life,
are you, Like, and if you can get to a
point where you own your own property, like I feel
like within the law, like you you should be able
to do what you want, Like if you're talking about
like your house being like run down or busted, or your.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Long running a meth operation or something you shouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
Do that, like your lawn being unkept or something like that,
Like those are ordinances against that, like the village, but
like just some decorations like that's not against any rules.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
I have flamingos in front of my my meth r V.
Then more cooking.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Hey do you the show is on Fred's Fun.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Fact Fred.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Much learn so much?

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Do we have any Harry Potter fans in here? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Are you really a Harry Potter? I mean we've talked
about it, but are you not to.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Like the level that some people are at.

Speaker 14 (01:20:52):
I don't have any wands or tattoos or anything, but
your capable of them.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
Yeah, okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
I want to you're waving at me right now? Then?
Well is that witchcras wwitchcrab.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Yeah, it's a different it's a different hobby.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Of riding here on her quidditch board or quidditch broom yeah, broom.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Yeah, but at least you know quidditch. That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I read the first one. Yes, I tend to do.
I tend to read the thing. That's trendy, and then
I realized that I hate it. So yeah, but I
could get you a Harry Potter lego. Okay, but I
think those are really big. I'm going to start out
a little something, a little less uh, a little less overwhelming.
If we're going to get you in the legos, like.

Speaker 14 (01:21:29):
Man, I only play with like the big ones from
the nineties, the real big ones.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
I got you a big bucket of the four plus
year old ones that I got for poll. Yeah, I
get this.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
I can't choke on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
I was not supposed to eat.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
No, you're not. I had to learn that the hard way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
I was so excited because they have a friends that
like the I guess it's a coffee shop or the house.
I can't remember what it is. They have a scene
from Friends may have Legos. I'm like, I'm going to
introduce to Kalin the lego world that I am fascinated with.
The hours of my life that just dissip here. I
can't think about anything else because I'm thinking about legos.

(01:22:04):
It's a grown ass man and I and I was
gonna get that one for you. It's one hundred and
fifty bucks, and I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
You know, please don't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
I'm going to start you out with something less less,
and if you tell me you love it, I'll go
get you that one.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
You do not need to spend one hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
That would be a very cool one. Though. If you
put it you get like display in your house because
you love that show so much, that'd be a very
cool one.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I mean, I love friends.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Anything be a cool one to have. I think we're
to start botanical with you though. Oh no, I think
I'm getting both you and Jason. But it looks like flowers.
Oh yeah, they're very cool looking. I think you're gonna
find the same thing I found, which is you take
a little gummy hypothetically. Oh mine, of course are harrowbo
I would never otherwise, But you know, I know you're
assert not but then and then you before long, it's

(01:22:49):
like ten hours of gunball. You built a flower thing
and you're just so satisfied with it, and you didn't
think about anything else. Your phone's stinging over here, but
you're focused on the task. Everybody needs something like that.

Speaker 14 (01:22:59):
I do need to not think about it anything else.
So beautiful, I'll try anything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I think I'm going today to the actual store.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Wait, there's a Lego store.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Yeah, in WaterTower in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
Oh clo. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
One of the verbs I didn't know. I think that
one's still there. It says it is okay, look for you. Yeah,
it said it was I was gonna be don't make
me go there and cry. He said, oh my god,
it would be terrible. It would be still there. Okay, good,
I think that's all that's there. But yeah, but here
it is. Harry Potter was the point. Harry Potter and
the Sorcerer's Stone. You might recognize that book. Of course,
the British story was originally titled Harry Potter and the

(01:23:34):
Philosopher's Stone. And when a few of the first editions
were printed, there were some mistakes inside. On top of
the word philosopher being misspelled on the back cover, one
wand was listed twice when it came to supplies, Harry
was meant to take to school. When one of these
books is up for auction, in March of twenty nineteen,
it sold for ninety thousand dollars. So if you have

(01:23:56):
one of the original original original Harry Potter and and
I guess it's the Philosopher's stone and you have these typos.
You got a lot of money on your hands. But
don't get too excited, like make sure you got the one.
Not like what happened to Kaylon's house with the Princess Diana. Well,
you did have the one, she just ripped the tag.
My sister thought she had the one, but she didn't.

(01:24:16):
She had like the second generation. So it's like for
a fifteen minutes she was like, Oh, I'm a millionaire rich,
I'm so rich because I have that one. Oh no,
you had like the second version, that's the first version
with the specific tag. If you have that one, you're
worth like fifty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Yeah, protect the tag. That is the key.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
So don't yeah, don't get too don't get too excited
about it. Go home and look though. And if you do,
remember the little commission for me because I told you
about it. More Fred Show next right here,