August 26, 2025 • 16 mins
Abby is confused why her date Patrick won't call her back after having a fun time together... Find out why she got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hey, You've never.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's the Fred Show. Hey, Amby, good morning, Welcome to
the show. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm good, guys, how are.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You doing great? Welcome to waiting by the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So we're trying to figure out what happened with this
guy Patrick, and we got to have the backstory. So
how did you meet tell us about any dates you've
been on and uh and how those went and then
where things are now?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right? So, first I met Patrick at a Saint
Patrick Stay party the irony there, and we just we
just talked for like hours. We both have kids, and
we bonded over that, like we're both single parents, you know,
(01:23):
just talking about like the funny stories that our that
our kids, you know, do, So we just like really
clicked right away. It was like instant connection. Then we
like the more we talk, like he was asking, like,
you know, whereabouts I lived, we found out that we
were pretty close to each other, and he asked for
my number before he left, which was like, you know,
(01:45):
I was excited because, like I thought he was really
cute and we feel like I felt like there was
definitely connection there. So we had been kind of texting
back and forth after he got my number, and then
a few days later it was a really nice day
and Patrick was like, hey, you know, like I'm going
to take my son to the park, which was not
too far from my house because I said it was
(02:07):
pretty close to his and like I said, we lived
pretty close, and he was like, hey, do you want
to come and join It's like I felt comfortable because
it's like a big thing, like introducing your children to
any other adult that you had, Like even if he's
like not my boyfriend, it's just a lot to introduce
to anybody coming into our lives. So I really appreciated
(02:27):
him saying like if I felt comfortable, like bringing my
kids over, So I grat So I have two daughters,
and I said, sure, you know what, like what why not?
You know, it's it's innocent. It's not a date, you know,
it's just kind of meeting up and kind of getting
to know us better. And you know it, we had
like a real like it was a really it was
really nice to see him again. We tried a lot,
the kids had a lot of fun playing. But after that,
(02:51):
like I never heard from him again, Like it was
very weird, Like he didn't tell like I sent him
a text afterwards, they said hey, like, you know, thanks
for inviting us. We had a great time. You know,
talk to you soon or like love to see you again,
you know, let me know. And it was just crooked.
So I just don't know, like what happened if I
said something, you know, It's just I'm just sitting here
(03:12):
trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, that's interesting because you guys, you did meet in
the wild, per se, you met in person, so this
guy wasn't a total stranger. And you have kids and
he has kids, so you know, getting them together and
figuring out, you know, if they're going to get along
and stuff. I suppose I's seen innocence enough and since
things went well in your opinion, then it's like, well,
wait a minute, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why wouldn't this guy call me again?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, it was just very strange, Like I feel like
both interactions, like the first and the second, you know,
like you know, hanging out, we're fine, like totally you know,
innocent but fun, and you know, there was no awkwardness
at all. So I'm just I'm kind of stumped of
what could have happened.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Okay, Well, let's call this guy Patrick, see if we
can get him on the phone. We'll ask these questions
for you. You'll be on the phone, of course, at the
same time. At some point you're welcome to jump in
after we get you some infhoe And the hope is
all always is that we can figure out what happened
or what's going on. Set you guys up on another day.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Abby.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Hello, Hi, Abby, let's call Patrick. You guys met at
the Saint Patrick's party. You talked for a long time.
You thought it went really well. You bonded over the
fact that you both are single parents and you have kids,
and so you decided collectively to get together at a
park or a playground or whatever with the kids. And
it wasn't really a date per se, but you know,
the kids got to meet each other and you guys
got to talk some morning, and you thought everything went
(04:26):
really well. Except you have not heard from Patrick since then,
and you want to know why exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I'm just kind of racking my brain what's happening.
So I don't know, Like at this point, I need
some help. I need some intervention.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Look at mom multitasking over there. I got the kids
in the background, still try to figure out. Yeah, you know,
I mean, you got needs, gir, I understand. Let's call
this guy now. Good luck, Abby, thank you?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Hello? Hi is this Patrick?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
This is he, Hey Patrick, Good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio Show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call is uh is he coo?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
If we talk for just a second. Yeah, yeah, that's
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, Well, thank you for calling on behalf of a
woman who reached out to us. Her name is Abby.
I guess you guys met it at a party recently
and went on a date. I guess it was kind
of more of like like an outing with your kids.
Do you remember this woman?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, I remember Abby.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, okay, So what happened?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Because she we just talked to her a second ago
and she was talking about how she met you at
the party and you guys bonded over being parents and
and you know, she thought everything went great. You guys
apparently decided to meet up with your kids, and she
hasn't heard from you since.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So what what happened?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, I was I was gonna take my son out
to a park and just called her up to see
if she wanted to join, you know, nothing serious, but yeah,
we met up. She's she was great, you know, I mean,
she's really fun to be around. Honestly, her her two
kids were just paris.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That was kind of my opinion.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, well, just in the in the way that they
terrorized my son, and I guess me, I do want
to say though, you know, I'm I'm a dad, I'm
a single dad. I understand how kids can be. But
her her two kids were just next level. I mean
they they spent most of the afternoon just double teaming
(06:36):
on my son, taking his toys, pushing him. One of
her daughters sneezed at one point. You know, I said,
God bless you, and she just made a bee line
straight for me and wiped her nose and just wiped
it all over my jeans. You know, we kind of laughed,
but I was thinking, this is this is really out
of line, and so I tried to get him to
play some games. They just didn't want to listen to me.
(06:59):
One of them just straight up to me I was ugly,
and then just running like okay. I mean that hurts
the ego a little bit, and I'm like, all right whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But you know the.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Worst part of it, they they're biers. Both of her
kids bite like one of them literally bit me. I
don't know if you've ever been bit by a kid,
but that hurts.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm sorry to laugh, but I mean, okay, so well, yeah,
cob in germs on you. They're biting you, they're calling
you ugly, they're roasting you. And what is during all
of this? Like, what what is she just watching this
and laughing? Is she enabling it? Is she? Is she
trying to correct them? I mean, what's happening? What is her?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, no, she wasn't trying to correct them. I don't
know that she was enabling other.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Than just not stepping in. But it just seemed like
they ran the show.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I could tell that there's probably no consequences at home,
you know, if they get in trouble. It just felt
like they were in charge.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I don't know it was.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was just a lot for me on afternoon.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
She never really told him to stop, and I didn't
really feel like it was my place to do that.
So I thought, I'll just remove myself from the situation
after this afternoon, we can kind of be done with it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I would like that much either. But let me
bring Abby in. I forgot to mention that Abby is here. Abby,
you didn't say so us that your kids were biting
this man.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, so my two year old cuz, like, we are
working on it. I told her to apologize. Like, first
of all, Terris is like really extreme and like I
really don't like that word, especially associated with my children.
So I really hate that, Like that's just for me,
Like if he's turned off by me, that's fine. Like
(08:40):
him using that word to describe my children, that's a
huge turn off by for him, it's like for me
towards him, they're not They obviously were like a little
more on the excited side obviously to like meet new people,
meet and new kids, Like they weren't ganging up on
his son. I did try to interject, there's just so
much like it's it's hard to be a single parent,
(09:01):
like you know, like it's kind of hard since he
I divote some issues like with my acts, Like I
don't have much of support from my child's father, so
it's me doing it all. So it's like really hard
that he's like blassing me as a mother. It's just
very hurtful because I was trying so like he's kind
of going to the stream, but I did nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean my mom my sister and I were
raised by my mom primarily and she was a single
parent for a while. And I commiserate with what you're saying.
I think though you know, your kids can act up
but just from my perspective, if it were me and
i'm Patrick, I guess what I would have been looking
for is less about what a two year old's doing
(09:43):
and more about maybe what you're doing about it, because
he certainly couldn't discipline the kids that would have been unaccessible.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But that's what I'm saying. So you're listening to what
he's saying that I didn't discipline my children.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, I'm I'm asking you if, Okay, I'm not critstaging you.
I started something out by not criticizing you, but I'm
saying if but I had.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Already I had already explained that. When she did go
to bite him, I took her aside and said, you
cannot be doing that and you need to apologize.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Is that what happened? Patrick? Did? She did?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
She was Are you not giving her enough credit for
her trying to manage your kids?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Well, no, no, she did.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
She did step in.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean, it's not like she didn't do anything. It's
just that I didn't see necessarily the results coming out
of her.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Telling her kids what to do.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I mean, it's not like.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
They just continue doing it. They would stop, but then
it would they would back up. So and again support
for her for single moms. And I do apologize for
using the word terrorists. That may have been a little harsh.
That's not necessarily what I meant. It just it was
a lot for me and my boy. We're just not
used to that kind of energy.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So it was just a lot, And that's fine. But
like also I feel like he's trying to come off
at like their boat says like his son, Yes, his
son has behaved, but his son also like through stand
my daughter's a few times they weren't biting the child
like by like I said, only my two year old
bit him, and like again I try, I disciplined him.
(11:12):
We're working on it. Like she's too so like maybe
she got scared, you know, like we're trying to communicate
with her. We're trying to explain that that's not okay.
Sometimes her older sister will get upset and bite her back,
but my other my older daughter does not bite other people.
Like it's a it's a sibling thing between them that
like we're trying to work on. So the fact that
(11:33):
like it's all coming down on me, it's just like
really hard, Like I'm trying my best, and I know
he's trying his best, like I would never have used that, like,
you know, feeling that he didn't disciplined his son enough
or that his son was doing things like I give
everybody like I give everybody, like the greatest all I
give everybody, like you know, I feel for I feel
(11:54):
for every single parent out there trying the best they can.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Ye trying to criticize.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
We are not trying to criticize you at all, But
I think we have to respect his decision to not
want to be a part of that right now.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It was a lot for him. And you can admit that,
right fine, you can admit.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That God is totally fine. I can admit that the
whole thing is is just like be a man and say,
you know what, I feel like this is not working
and like, you know, like it's better off exactly we see.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Okay, but hold on, hold on, I mean just one second.
This is not an indictment on parents as so parents
as a whole. And I also understand we're talking about
your children, and so understandably you have emotion about this,
and you should and that is fair. But that's probably
why he chose not to say anything and just sort
of fade away because he probably didn't want to have
(12:42):
to tell a woman who he just met, I think
your kids were unruly and then get into this sort
of conversation because I understand why you're defensive. I totally do,
but I also think you need to understand from the
other side that it's a difficult conversation to have with
someone when you're talking about their kids.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, sure, but he didn't even have to bring up
the kids. He could have just said, you know what,
I'm just not feeling the vibe, like I think you
know a relationship, you know what, honestly, like just say
something like don't leave somebody on red, like just be respectful.
Like I've had to end things. They're not they're uncomfortable.
They're uncomfortable when you have to tell someone yeah, you know,
(13:20):
like I'm not feeling it, or like you could there's
a respectful way to end things without ghosting. That's all
I'm saying, Like, I just feel like I deserved a
little bit more respect than that. After I feel like
we really didn't have a connection. But that's fine, that's
I think that's I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think that's fair. I think that you're you know,
your your emotion and defensiveness about this is also fair.
But I also think that it's possible that when we're
talking about our own kids and our own families and
our own especially when they're our own kids, that maybe
you're a little blinded by how that experience may have
been for someone else and why that may not be
for them. I also understand the communication part of this.
(13:59):
So look, no one's coming down on you, no one's
criticizing you. It's not for him. He has that right
that is dating. But Patrick, I'll ask the question. I mean,
would you like to go out with her again? Maybe we,
you know, don't bring the kids this time, and then
slowly work on that whole thing, you know another time.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You know, Honestly, had we had this conversation, I may
have understood a little more. We we kind of kept
it pretty surface. But I really dig the fire that
she has, that she's representing standing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Up her kids.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I see that she's working on it. I'm absolutely not
opposed to going out again.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
If oh.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
This, I did not see this coming. So you have
no problem being a human Kleenex again, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't think it's going to be that way. I
think I just have a bit more of an understanding
of what she's going through, and I like her passion.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
All right.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I mean, look, I'm a little surprised, but Abby, I
I understand where you're coming from. Patrick, I didn't expect this.
But great, So it'll be an adult date. You guys
will go out again. We'll pay for it and then, uh,
you know, maybe we'll check in down the road. But Abby,
I appreciate your perspective, and I hope that you can
see his and maybe see where we're coming from as observers.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And I hope you guys have a great date.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I can. I mean, I appreciate it, and obviously, like
maybe we do have some stuff to talk about, so
I do appreciate it. Like Patrick being honest, I can
respect the honesty here, so I can so hopefully, you know,
if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, Like Patrick, you
can be honest with me. We don't have to do
this over the radio. If it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, you did.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You did kind of chew us out a little bit.
So I'm a little afraid of I'm a little afraid
of that we're talking about your kids. I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, I've had a rough go and I do stand up.
So I mean, I really wasn't trying to fight anybody's
head off, but like when you start talking about my
kids and me as a parent, like you know, obviously
I'm always going to defend what I believe is right.
So it wasn't anything that aginst you guys, because we
all we all don't know each other.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hey, I think he's a little turned on over there,
So that's great. You guys go up as adults, have
a great tent. We'll pay for it and we'll check
in later and uh and good luck to both of you.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Thank you,
This is the Bread Show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Let's get you hotel a trip for tun to see
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Up All Night Live in Las Vegas March thirteenth, twenty
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to three seven three three seven right now for a
chance to win two tickets to the March thirteenth show
a teenut Hotels day March Swell through the fourteenth at
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hey, You've never.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Been left waiting by the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's the Fred Show. Hey, Amby, good morning, Welcome to
the show. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm good, guys, how are.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You doing great? Welcome to waiting by the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So we're trying to figure out what happened with this
guy Patrick, and we got to have the backstory. So
how did you meet tell us about any dates you've
been on and uh and how those went and then
where things are now?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right? So, first I met Patrick at a Saint
Patrick Stay party the irony there, and we just we
just talked for like hours. We both have kids, and
we bonded over that, like we're both single parents, you know,
(01:23):
just talking about like the funny stories that our that
our kids, you know, do, So we just like really
clicked right away. It was like instant connection. Then we
like the more we talk, like he was asking, like,
you know, whereabouts I lived, we found out that we
were pretty close to each other, and he asked for
my number before he left, which was like, you know,
(01:45):
I was excited because, like I thought he was really
cute and we feel like I felt like there was
definitely connection there. So we had been kind of texting
back and forth after he got my number, and then
a few days later it was a really nice day
and Patrick was like, hey, you know, like I'm going
to take my son to the park, which was not
too far from my house because I said it was
(02:07):
pretty close to his and like I said, we lived
pretty close, and he was like, hey, do you want
to come and join It's like I felt comfortable because
it's like a big thing, like introducing your children to
any other adult that you had, Like even if he's
like not my boyfriend, it's just a lot to introduce
to anybody coming into our lives. So I really appreciated
(02:27):
him saying like if I felt comfortable, like bringing my
kids over, So I grat So I have two daughters,
and I said, sure, you know what, like what why not?
You know, it's it's innocent. It's not a date, you know,
it's just kind of meeting up and kind of getting
to know us better. And you know it, we had
like a real like it was a really it was
really nice to see him again. We tried a lot,
the kids had a lot of fun playing. But after that,
(02:51):
like I never heard from him again, Like it was
very weird, Like he didn't tell like I sent him
a text afterwards, they said hey, like, you know, thanks
for inviting us. We had a great time. You know,
talk to you soon or like love to see you again,
you know, let me know. And it was just crooked.
So I just don't know, like what happened if I
said something, you know, It's just I'm just sitting here
(03:12):
trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, that's interesting because you guys, you did meet in
the wild, per se, you met in person, so this
guy wasn't a total stranger. And you have kids and
he has kids, so you know, getting them together and
figuring out, you know, if they're going to get along
and stuff. I suppose I's seen innocence enough and since
things went well in your opinion, then it's like, well,
wait a minute, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why wouldn't this guy call me again?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, it was just very strange, Like I feel like
both interactions, like the first and the second, you know,
like you know, hanging out, we're fine, like totally you know,
innocent but fun, and you know, there was no awkwardness
at all. So I'm just I'm kind of stumped of
what could have happened.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Okay, Well, let's call this guy Patrick, see if we
can get him on the phone. We'll ask these questions
for you. You'll be on the phone, of course, at the
same time. At some point you're welcome to jump in
after we get you some infhoe And the hope is
all always is that we can figure out what happened
or what's going on. Set you guys up on another day.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Abby.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Hello, Hi, Abby, let's call Patrick. You guys met at
the Saint Patrick's party. You talked for a long time.
You thought it went really well. You bonded over the
fact that you both are single parents and you have kids,
and so you decided collectively to get together at a
park or a playground or whatever with the kids. And
it wasn't really a date per se, but you know,
the kids got to meet each other and you guys
got to talk some morning, and you thought everything went
(04:26):
really well. Except you have not heard from Patrick since then,
and you want to know why exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I'm just kind of racking my brain what's happening.
So I don't know, Like at this point, I need
some help. I need some intervention.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Look at mom multitasking over there. I got the kids
in the background, still try to figure out. Yeah, you know,
I mean, you got needs, gir, I understand. Let's call
this guy now. Good luck, Abby, thank you?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Hello? Hi is this Patrick?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
This is he, Hey Patrick, Good morning. My name is Fred.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio Show,
and I have to tell you that we are on
the radio right now, and I would need your permission
to continue with the call is uh is he coo?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
If we talk for just a second. Yeah, yeah, that's
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, Well, thank you for calling on behalf of a
woman who reached out to us. Her name is Abby.
I guess you guys met it at a party recently
and went on a date. I guess it was kind
of more of like like an outing with your kids.
Do you remember this woman?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, I remember Abby.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, okay, So what happened?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Because she we just talked to her a second ago
and she was talking about how she met you at
the party and you guys bonded over being parents and
and you know, she thought everything went great. You guys
apparently decided to meet up with your kids, and she
hasn't heard from you since.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So what what happened?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, I was I was gonna take my son out
to a park and just called her up to see
if she wanted to join, you know, nothing serious, but yeah,
we met up. She's she was great, you know, I mean,
she's really fun to be around. Honestly, her her two
kids were just paris.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That was kind of my opinion.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, well, just in the in the way that they
terrorized my son, and I guess me, I do want
to say though, you know, I'm I'm a dad, I'm
a single dad. I understand how kids can be. But
her her two kids were just next level. I mean
they they spent most of the afternoon just double teaming
(06:36):
on my son, taking his toys, pushing him. One of
her daughters sneezed at one point. You know, I said,
God bless you, and she just made a bee line
straight for me and wiped her nose and just wiped
it all over my jeans. You know, we kind of laughed,
but I was thinking, this is this is really out
of line, and so I tried to get him to
play some games. They just didn't want to listen to me.
(06:59):
One of them just straight up to me I was ugly,
and then just running like okay. I mean that hurts
the ego a little bit, and I'm like, all right whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But you know the.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Worst part of it, they they're biers. Both of her
kids bite like one of them literally bit me. I
don't know if you've ever been bit by a kid,
but that hurts.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm sorry to laugh, but I mean, okay, so well, yeah,
cob in germs on you. They're biting you, they're calling
you ugly, they're roasting you. And what is during all
of this? Like, what what is she just watching this
and laughing? Is she enabling it? Is she? Is she
trying to correct them? I mean, what's happening? What is her?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, no, she wasn't trying to correct them. I don't
know that she was enabling other.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Than just not stepping in. But it just seemed like
they ran the show.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I could tell that there's probably no consequences at home,
you know, if they get in trouble. It just felt
like they were in charge.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I don't know it was.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was just a lot for me on afternoon.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
She never really told him to stop, and I didn't
really feel like it was my place to do that.
So I thought, I'll just remove myself from the situation
after this afternoon, we can kind of be done with it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I would like that much either. But let me
bring Abby in. I forgot to mention that Abby is here. Abby,
you didn't say so us that your kids were biting
this man.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, so my two year old cuz, like, we are
working on it. I told her to apologize. Like, first
of all, Terris is like really extreme and like I
really don't like that word, especially associated with my children.
So I really hate that, Like that's just for me,
Like if he's turned off by me, that's fine. Like
(08:40):
him using that word to describe my children, that's a
huge turn off by for him, it's like for me
towards him, they're not They obviously were like a little
more on the excited side obviously to like meet new people,
meet and new kids, Like they weren't ganging up on
his son. I did try to interject, there's just so
much like it's it's hard to be a single parent,
(09:01):
like you know, like it's kind of hard since he
I divote some issues like with my acts, Like I
don't have much of support from my child's father, so
it's me doing it all. So it's like really hard
that he's like blassing me as a mother. It's just
very hurtful because I was trying so like he's kind
of going to the stream, but I did nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean my mom my sister and I were
raised by my mom primarily and she was a single
parent for a while. And I commiserate with what you're saying.
I think though you know, your kids can act up
but just from my perspective, if it were me and
i'm Patrick, I guess what I would have been looking
for is less about what a two year old's doing
(09:43):
and more about maybe what you're doing about it, because
he certainly couldn't discipline the kids that would have been unaccessible.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But that's what I'm saying. So you're listening to what
he's saying that I didn't discipline my children.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, I'm I'm asking you if, Okay, I'm not critstaging you.
I started something out by not criticizing you, but I'm
saying if but I had.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Already I had already explained that. When she did go
to bite him, I took her aside and said, you
cannot be doing that and you need to apologize.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Is that what happened? Patrick? Did? She did?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
She was Are you not giving her enough credit for
her trying to manage your kids?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Well, no, no, she did.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
She did step in.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean, it's not like she didn't do anything. It's
just that I didn't see necessarily the results coming out
of her.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Telling her kids what to do.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I mean, it's not like.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
They just continue doing it. They would stop, but then
it would they would back up. So and again support
for her for single moms. And I do apologize for
using the word terrorists. That may have been a little harsh.
That's not necessarily what I meant. It just it was
a lot for me and my boy. We're just not
used to that kind of energy.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So it was just a lot, And that's fine. But
like also I feel like he's trying to come off
at like their boat says like his son, Yes, his
son has behaved, but his son also like through stand
my daughter's a few times they weren't biting the child
like by like I said, only my two year old
bit him, and like again I try, I disciplined him.
(11:12):
We're working on it. Like she's too so like maybe
she got scared, you know, like we're trying to communicate
with her. We're trying to explain that that's not okay.
Sometimes her older sister will get upset and bite her back,
but my other my older daughter does not bite other people.
Like it's a it's a sibling thing between them that
like we're trying to work on. So the fact that
(11:33):
like it's all coming down on me, it's just like
really hard, Like I'm trying my best, and I know
he's trying his best, like I would never have used that, like,
you know, feeling that he didn't disciplined his son enough
or that his son was doing things like I give
everybody like I give everybody, like the greatest all I
give everybody, like you know, I feel for I feel
(11:54):
for every single parent out there trying the best they can.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Ye trying to criticize.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
We are not trying to criticize you at all, But
I think we have to respect his decision to not
want to be a part of that right now.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It was a lot for him. And you can admit that,
right fine, you can admit.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That God is totally fine. I can admit that the
whole thing is is just like be a man and say,
you know what, I feel like this is not working
and like, you know, like it's better off exactly we see.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Okay, but hold on, hold on, I mean just one second.
This is not an indictment on parents as so parents
as a whole. And I also understand we're talking about
your children, and so understandably you have emotion about this,
and you should and that is fair. But that's probably
why he chose not to say anything and just sort
of fade away because he probably didn't want to have
(12:42):
to tell a woman who he just met, I think
your kids were unruly and then get into this sort
of conversation because I understand why you're defensive. I totally do,
but I also think you need to understand from the
other side that it's a difficult conversation to have with
someone when you're talking about their kids.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, sure, but he didn't even have to bring up
the kids. He could have just said, you know what,
I'm just not feeling the vibe, like I think you
know a relationship, you know what, honestly, like just say
something like don't leave somebody on red, like just be respectful.
Like I've had to end things. They're not they're uncomfortable.
They're uncomfortable when you have to tell someone yeah, you know,
(13:20):
like I'm not feeling it, or like you could there's
a respectful way to end things without ghosting. That's all
I'm saying, Like, I just feel like I deserved a
little bit more respect than that. After I feel like
we really didn't have a connection. But that's fine, that's
I think that's I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think that's fair. I think that you're you know,
your your emotion and defensiveness about this is also fair.
But I also think that it's possible that when we're
talking about our own kids and our own families and
our own especially when they're our own kids, that maybe
you're a little blinded by how that experience may have
been for someone else and why that may not be
for them. I also understand the communication part of this.
(13:59):
So look, no one's coming down on you, no one's
criticizing you. It's not for him. He has that right
that is dating. But Patrick, I'll ask the question. I mean,
would you like to go out with her again? Maybe we,
you know, don't bring the kids this time, and then
slowly work on that whole thing, you know another time.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You know, Honestly, had we had this conversation, I may
have understood a little more. We we kind of kept
it pretty surface. But I really dig the fire that
she has, that she's representing standing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Up her kids.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I see that she's working on it. I'm absolutely not
opposed to going out again.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
If oh.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
This, I did not see this coming. So you have
no problem being a human Kleenex again, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't think it's going to be that way. I
think I just have a bit more of an understanding
of what she's going through, and I like her passion.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
All right.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I mean, look, I'm a little surprised, but Abby, I
I understand where you're coming from. Patrick, I didn't expect this.
But great, So it'll be an adult date. You guys
will go out again. We'll pay for it and then, uh,
you know, maybe we'll check in down the road. But Abby,
I appreciate your perspective, and I hope that you can
see his and maybe see where we're coming from as observers.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And I hope you guys have a great date.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I can. I mean, I appreciate it, and obviously, like
maybe we do have some stuff to talk about, so
I do appreciate it. Like Patrick being honest, I can
respect the honesty here, so I can so hopefully, you know,
if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, Like Patrick, you
can be honest with me. We don't have to do
this over the radio. If it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, you did.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You did kind of chew us out a little bit.
So I'm a little afraid of I'm a little afraid
of that we're talking about your kids. I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, I've had a rough go and I do stand up.
So I mean, I really wasn't trying to fight anybody's
head off, but like when you start talking about my
kids and me as a parent, like you know, obviously
I'm always going to defend what I believe is right.
So it wasn't anything that aginst you guys, because we
all we all don't know each other.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hey, I think he's a little turned on over there,
So that's great. You guys go up as adults, have
a great tent. We'll pay for it and we'll check
in later and uh and good luck to both of you.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Thank you,
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