December 15, 2025 • 22 mins
A listener is upset after her mother-in-law is blaming her for ruining Christmas because she doesn't want to drive 6 hours to their home for the holidays with her two kids and newborn baby! Judge Keke weighs in on Keke's Court! Plus, Fred tells us a fun fact about XX. Listen now!
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Speaker 5 (01:58):
Please, all right, let's get into the court. The gavel
has been hit, it says Kiki. Am I wrong for
ruining Christmas? Because I won't travel with a newborn. I
gave birth six weeks ago after a rough delivery. I'm
still healing and have two other kids, five and three.
My mother in law insists that everyone travels six hours
(02:18):
to her house for Christmas every year, and we've taken
the drive year after year. However, this year I said
no because I'm dragging a new I don't want to
drag a newborn and two small kids across state lines
during the flow season. My husband backed me up and
offered that we do a family FaceTime call on Christmas
(02:39):
morning instead.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, my mother in law lost it.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
She said I'm being lazy and dramatic and accused me
of using the baby to control her son. Then she
sent a family group text saying Christmas was basically canceled
because some people refuse to make sacrifices. Now half of
the family is mad at me and telling me just
to deal with it for one day. And my mother
in law says I stole her Christmas and her grandkids.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean I have a lot of thoughts.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
With Kiki, true, and you know, as the childless aunt,
I want to give grace to the mother in law
who probably looks forward to making memories with her grandkids
every year, like every holiday, I look forward to being
around my nephews.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I look forward to it. I'm so excited.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I want to give I want to give grace to
the mother in law, right, But after that, what you
have to learn as an adult, is that people are
allowed to set boundaries and make decisions for their families,
and postpartum is real. And if she doesn't feel like
attending this year, give her this year. Hopefully she doesn't
make this a new tradition where you never see your
grandkids because you threw a fit. So it's just like
(03:47):
I understand the frustration of the grandparents, and you know,
traditions are being you know broken in their opinion, But
this lady is going through postpartum. So if she doesn't
want to attend this year, give her that. That's my opinion.
I mean the mom in the room, I assume you
have no dispute there. I can't think of one.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And if if she never wants to go back to
see her mother in law, I also wouldn't be mad
at that either.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Like truly, no, not in a bad way.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
But like she's got three kids, she's gotta drag around
Like I'm barely getting around with one kid right in
my little Nissan, Like it is a lot of work
to get around town with the kid, So now pack
up three kids, go across state lines. No, And like, yes,
she's six weeks postpartum, she's in a diaper. Like it's
a lot, I'm serious, just a lot going on in
her world. And she does not have to please anybody
truly ever ever, but like especially for the holiday season
(04:34):
and Christmas, and if mother in law feels like she
wants to see grandkids and do these memories, like maybe
they could work something out or mother in law comes
over or something.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Maybe that's a big maybe I don't I don't know
that the situation.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't want that either. Right, they want to talk
about how your house not clean?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's a big minute. She sounds the kind of woman
who would do that.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, it shouln't sound great.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
No, eight, one, three, five, you guys at the jerry,
I'm sure people have something to say about this. I
mean my mom, if she were listening, she would say,
my nieces are three and five, and it's like she
wants my sister to load them up and bring them
to and my sister does it a couple times a year.
I know it's a lot of work. Granted my mom
did it with us. So it's one of those things
where it's like, you know, grandmas want to see their
(05:16):
grandkids and my mom does travel to Dallas an awful
lot to see them. So it's not like she doesn't
pull her weight. My sister would tell you, well, it's
a lot of work to bring these kids around. Well, yeah,
I mean, but it's also part of being a family.
The thing for me is, first of all, this is
the third kid under five, was it?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The second thing is really the proximity to birth. Like, look,
we're talking about six weeks an infant were newborn. I mean,
that's totally unreasonable to ask. Maybe in a year or two,
but I don't know. Why isn't mother in law jumping
a gold to where they are?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Well, she might have offered that, but I don't think
that this daughter in law once are there either, because
think about it, if I'm in a diaper, it's probably
as saying I'm going through postpartum I had little kids.
I don't necessarily want to host my in law either, right,
I just want a year off to get my mind right,
get my body right, and raise these kids, and then
maybe we can pick up the tradition next year.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
If mother in law's thrown out a bunch of scenarios
that require very little from new mom, then I might say, Okay,
is there no compromise here? You know if she's if
she's saying, I'll fly to you, I'll stay in a hotel,
I'll stay out of your way. I just want to
see my grandkids on Christmas or near Christmas or whatever,
and she's saying, no, no, no. The problem is, I
think sometimes the personalities of these very eager mom grandmothers
(06:34):
can be off putting in itself. You know, it can
come off very aggressive when they have the best in
Like my mom, I love her to death. She has
the absolute best intention, but she pushes and you know,
she and my sister are the same woman in many ways.
So it's like you're pushing you and you wouldn't like
to be you know what I mean. So it's like
you're getting a no to set boundaries. But I know
(06:56):
you and you see that as rejection, but yet you
have the best intention. You just want to be a
part of their lives. I get all of that for me,
though it's six weeks ago you had a baby. No,
they're not going to travel to you.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
I no.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I would love to hear from the thirteen because I
struggled with this being the only girl in my family.
I don't have kids. My brothers have the kids. But
I feel like you're so used to your family tradition,
like we always get together on this day. How dare
you have to go to your other in law? You know,
like I don't want to share you. I don't want
to share the family. So it's hard, but you have
to just be okay with it because people are allowed
(07:31):
to set boundaries.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, well, and you know that there was if you've
been listening for a little while years ago, there was
a it was a rough transition in our house. And
my sister said, we're not coming for Christmas anymore or
Thanksgiving because we want to have our own traditions in
our own home.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that was hard. And it wasn't because she was wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was hard because our family is very close that
we're used to doing things a certain way for a
long time, and that included when we were young and
our grandparents and the whole thing. So we're breaking a
multi generational tradition. Should have been together on Christmas and
as and people have said, why don't you go to Dallas?
I wouldn't say were invited, Like, honestly, I don't. I
don't think that's I don't think that's even an option.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Because and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I don't think it's a lack of love. I think
I think she's drawing a firm boundary. Now is that
a boundary that I would draw that firmly? No, I
would give a little more than my sister is because
she is getting a lot too, you know what I mean.
But like because I just get on a plane and
go there and stay in a hotel, it's like I'm
not entirely sure we were included. So so you know,
(08:36):
I think I do think there's give and take. I
think I think sometimes, you know, the burden is on
the parents to provide opportunities for the grandparents, and then
the grandparents. I think sometimes I have to show grace
to the kids when you know it. But yeah, it's
it's a very hard thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Family.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Family can become very complicated, even when there's a lot
of love. Hey, Dominique, Hi, Hi, so you have a
new work. Congratulations by the way, thank you. And so
you hear this scenario where you've got a and I
wonder if the mother in law because you hear mother
in law and then you automatically like feel this disconnect, right,
(09:13):
but not necessarily that. But here's this woman she really
wants everyone together on Christmas, and her daughter in law
who just had a baby six weeks ago, saying, nah,
we're not doing this, and she has two other kids
under five, like, I can't do it right now, and
there's there's some tension there.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
What do you think, Yeah, I have a three month old,
I have a three year old, and it's the first
six months are so hard, especially around like flue season,
RSV season, and the holiday season. On top of that,
the mom and her family should be at home with
her kids, her young ones. This is like primetime Stanta
time for them. They should be waking up on Christmas
(09:50):
morning in their home in their pajamas with their family.
And Grandma is now in law or on the mom's
side are now extended family, So it's it's about the
family that you made, not the family you came from.
Now they need to be prioritized. So Grandma needs to
go to them and at least like be the community
that she probably claims that she is, because it takes
(10:12):
a lot to take a tribe to raise kids, especially
during the fluid holiday season.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
At minimum, At minimum, what she's pitching should be things
that are easy on the MoMA.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
And that's so real to say. When you say you
know you are the family. What did you say, the
extended family? You're Sney family. Yeah, hard, but it's.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
True, you know true.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
And my parents too, My my family comes over to
my house because it's about the grandkids. Now, it's not
about anybody else. Yeahid season with Christmas and Santa and
then a new baby come out? Yeah what about mom
and baby and the family.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Traditions need to change.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I think the harder you push, the less likely you
are to be included in those traditions, and that can
be hard to Dominique, thank you so much and congratulations again.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Have a good day.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
You guys too.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Glad you call. Hey, Kimmy, good morning. Do it next year, Kimmy, Hey, Kimmy, Kimmy, Kimmy, Kimmy.
I just I just picked up the phone. I don't
know what you were saying. You gotta you gotta start over.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
Okay, Well, what I'm saying is that this lady's in
the right. I just popped out a kid, I got
two other toddlers. There ain't no way I am going
six hours with a newborn to Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I am going to tell my mother in law.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
I'm sorry, but we're doing this next year. You all
go ahead, everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Go ahead, do it.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
I'm not offended. Please by all means, go ahead. I'll
wait till next year and I'll see you all next year.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Let's take time.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, yes, Kimmy, thank you so much. I'm really glad
you called. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's again six weeks ago. That's uh.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So we have Kimmy. Now we have kim Hi, kim
how you doing? Are you doing great? Kiki's court?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I when I I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
When I heard this, this immediately really frustrated me because
I have a not technically newborn vibe a micro premi.
He was born at twenty five weeks. He was born,
you know, back in May, and even though you know
he's still he's like almost seven months, like it's still
newborn kind of status, and any little cold could send
(12:26):
him to the hospital. So the fact that there's this
judgment for you know, wanting to keep her, the mom safe.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
The baby safe, is just so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
How's your son doing, By the way, he's really good.
He's done a little bit of oxygen.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
But you know, he's doing really good, but we have
to be so careful, like they can't bring him around
to anybody sick. So yeah, I just I fight for
the mom in this situation.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah always.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, Well, Kim, thank you, have a good day, good
holiday as well, you too. Love you, guys, I love
you too.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Thanks for listening. Appreciated. Jackie.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hello, Hi JAGGIEI what you take you're the jury.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
So no, I don't think that she's wrong at all.
I had a similar situation. I had my daughter's July
second and then my system off's wedding was the fifteenth
of July, and she wanted me to go with my daughter,
and I hold her no because I just had her,
you know, and same thing. You know, I would be
in a dress, still wearing diaper, still healing, and she
(13:27):
was bad, and she thought that I was using that
as an excuse not to go to her wedding. So
I sided with the mom here. She's not wrong at
all whatsoever. Especially the nurse even told us, like before
we left the hospital, she's like, make sure that the
baby doesn't go out because she she's say feed a
lot of times where you know, parents want to take
(13:48):
the baby everywhere, ends up sick, that ends up back
in the hospital, and especially with ours b being so
like serious, you know, her babies do end up on
oxygen and you know, and passed away from that. I
agree with her on her at whole, you know, because
that's very important as well as a mom to heal
and not you know, like start doing stuff too early,
(14:12):
because then you know you're gonna have all these those cares.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, thank you, Jacks bomb here, Yeah,
glad you called. Have a good day. This is a
good point on the text, by the way, And I
was thinking about this the other day too. I think
we give too much weight to the actual date of
the holiday. Why does it have to be twelve twenty five?
Get together in January? The kids don't care. My family
(14:34):
celebrated Christmas as early as the first week of December.
If that's when extended family could get together, I guess,
I guess there's it's kind of a mental thing. Everyone
else is together on this day, doing this thing, posting
their pictures on Instagra exactly so.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But I mean, you know, I'm like, yesterday I was
at the airport. I see the airline pilots get on
this thing. I'm like, you know, a lot of these
guys are gonna have to work on Christmas, Christmas Eve.
I'm sure that they have kids. And it's like, well,
we'll just do it when I get back, or we'll
do it the day before or for your friends right right,
because you're as responder exactly, he's not a hobby's a
firefighter on the radio.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You're my first.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
So clear, this isn't off on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
The Paulina so.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The first person I call when I need something, So
you know, fire in the house, Paulina. You know I'm
choking on something. Paulina. Hey Teresa, Hey, Hi Teresa. So
Kicki's court. Basically, we have a situation where a mother
in law wants her daughter in law and her grandkids
at Christmas, but she just gave birth six weeks ago
and she's saying no, and she's getting guilted for that.
Speaker 11 (15:36):
I think she.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Has ever right to say no. I gave birth my daughter,
who's going to be eighteen December twenty first had to
get released from the hospital early because both sides of
my family still expected me to host and I did.
Speaker 10 (15:50):
This.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Mom should be empowered and stay home.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Wow, I think my mom would tell you the same thing.
She hosted Thanksgiving. I think she had me the next day,
but she didn't know I was.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I was early.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But yeah, I think the expectation was or maybe it
was maybe was it. I don't remember and one of
the case. Maybe people have expectations and oh wow, crazy,
that is nuts. Now, it's weird that you still won't
let them come eighteen years later, but that's that's a
whole different thing.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You definitely won't let them come. So there it is.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
My mother love hosts now and she's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
There you go, Theresa, Thank you, have a good day,
Mary Christmas. I don't think there's I'm looking at all
these texts. There's not one counter take here. There's not
one person going.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Well, I was looking for a boomer that would like
stand on business again.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Where's my mom? She's in a sleep still. Later she'll
text him and she'll think it's me, but it's to everybody.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah I did it, but maybe I'm a mad.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I promise you, whenever the moment this is heard in Arizona,
which is going to be somewhere three or four hours
from now, I'm going to get a call.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But you know, I'm awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I'm your It comes fress Mom.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
She hadn't even heard in her sleeps you gon'll wake
up now. Karen's entertainment report is on the Fread show.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
FREDI have the little clippiana that our sweet belt want
to clip pretty fake.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I'm going to do the clippy right now.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So earlier this morning, we kept asking Jason Brown, who
had his boots on the ground at our iHeartRadio jingle
Ball in New York, like what did you see?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Who was there?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Who did you see? You on fun backstage? And he
was really excited that he saw t. J. Holmes and
Robot okay, and he casually forgot to mention that the
entire cast of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives were there.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He forgot to mention that Robert de Naro was there,
and he forgot.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You mentioned Robert DeNiro literally Jason and Robert de Niro interacted,
and that, oh yeah, there was this guy, shake my hand.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You also forgot to mention that there was a damn
spice girl.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There, like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Okay, like this we need it, We need like one
of those GoPros or something to follow her.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Like wear it on your head. That yeah, that's that's
a super.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Fan of gift.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
These are not casual things anyways.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You remember to turn them off sometimes. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
But it was Melsey and she came with great news.
Here it is. It has to happen.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So I want to be sat next June and we
have to.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Celebrate and I can't even the best.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
What was it reunion to her?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yes, so wanna Be turns thirty years old, which makes
me feel old next year. And she said in order
to celebrate, they have to get themselves back on stage.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Will our girl Victoria go? I don't know, but just
do it? Because of the will they won't wait? Won't they?
Is driving me crazy these days.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Elsewhere on the carpet, Alex Warren casually mentioned that he's
now friends with Jennifer Aniston, which I thought was really amazing.
Speaking of Alex, to watch the really good performances from him,
Nellie Jesse, Murph, Zara Larson, Ed Sheeran, and more. iHeartRadio
partnered with ABC to bring the iHeartRadio jingle Ball Tour
to even more fans across the country, and exclusive network
(19:22):
special will air on December seventeenth and the next day on.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Hulu, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
We talked about the first two episodes of the Taylor
Swift Disney Plus docu series The End of an Era earlier,
and Jason mentioned his takeaway was kind of like, Wow,
she's not perfect. We never get to see like her
being emotional or not just being the star that she is.
I think one person online wrote, I know she was
going through it because I saw bags under her ear,
(19:49):
like I've never seen that before. But there's one scene
where we see her getting super emotional because it is
the first show back after that. You know, they narrowly
avoided that Harris attack in Vienna, so it was the
first show after that, and you see her really telling
her mom like she's dealing with a lot of anxiety
and having a physical reaction to it as anyone would be.
(20:09):
And so she puts on an audiobook and it's like
some woman telling a story, and so of course everyone
found out what the audiobook was that she was listening
to to try to calm down.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's a popular thriller that came out last year.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's called The God of the Woods and it's a
book by Liz Moore. And it follows the disappearance of
a young girl from the aneron decks a summer camp
in nineteen seventy five, and the unraveling of a long
buried family secret that surfaces in the search for her.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So that was what was trying to calm her down.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So I kind of feel more like her than anyone else,
because you know, I like to listen to my little
murder before bed.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The book was on the New.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It was a bestseller list, and the author literally wrote
on social woke up this morning to a DM explosion.
Thank you Swifties for your sharp eyes and ears and
the love of reading. She also showed how she calms
down for a show. She takes a bath and she's like,
I wait for hours for these adrenals. This adrenaline to stop.
I get in a bath, I order room service, and
I sign stuff until I get tired.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
She's like most people take drugs. I just ride it
until you know I can finally go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
This year's NFL Playoffs, you guys, will be the first
without Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes since nineteen
ninety eight, so it's gonna be a little bit different
of course, Patrick Mahomes got a big old injury if
you did not hear that.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
So it's kind of I don't know, it's gonna be
different this year. Give some other people a chance, I guess.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
And you guys were beside yourself that this movie beat Wicked,
but Zutopia to regain the top spot at the box
office with twenty six million in its third weekend of release.
So they're beating all the other movies right now, So
Zutopio too.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
If you want to catch up on anything from the
show today or any day, just take the Fred Show
on demand on the free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
The Fred Show is on Fred's Fun Fact Fredland.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So much Nice.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Did you know that Santa Claus originally wore green, brown, or.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Blue, not red? And do you want to know why
he wears red?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The red suit only became iconic after Coca Cola's nineteen
thirties Christmas ads, which then standardized the look. Before that,
Santa outfits were all over the place. You could accessorize. Wow,
he could do whatever he wanted.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
He's an influencer.
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Speaker 5 (01:24):
Bob girl, are you trying to cancel Christmas?
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Speaker 1 (01:49):
Order it's a fresh show. It's Kiki's Court.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Rise honorable ow kik aleik is here, your honor.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Take it away?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Please, all right, let's get into the court. The gavel
has been hit, it says Kiki. Am I wrong for
ruining Christmas? Because I won't travel with a newborn. I
gave birth six weeks ago after a rough delivery. I'm
still healing and have two other kids, five and three.
My mother in law insists that everyone travels six hours
(02:18):
to her house for Christmas every year, and we've taken
the drive year after year. However, this year I said
no because I'm dragging a new I don't want to
drag a newborn and two small kids across state lines
during the flow season. My husband backed me up and
offered that we do a family FaceTime call on Christmas
(02:39):
morning instead.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, my mother in law lost it.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
She said I'm being lazy and dramatic and accused me
of using the baby to control her son. Then she
sent a family group text saying Christmas was basically canceled
because some people refuse to make sacrifices. Now half of
the family is mad at me and telling me just
to deal with it for one day. And my mother
in law says I stole her Christmas and her grandkids.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean I have a lot of thoughts.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
With Kiki, true, and you know, as the childless aunt,
I want to give grace to the mother in law
who probably looks forward to making memories with her grandkids
every year, like every holiday, I look forward to being
around my nephews.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I look forward to it. I'm so excited.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I want to give I want to give grace to
the mother in law, right, But after that, what you
have to learn as an adult, is that people are
allowed to set boundaries and make decisions for their families,
and postpartum is real. And if she doesn't feel like
attending this year, give her this year. Hopefully she doesn't
make this a new tradition where you never see your
grandkids because you threw a fit. So it's just like
(03:47):
I understand the frustration of the grandparents, and you know,
traditions are being you know broken in their opinion, But
this lady is going through postpartum. So if she doesn't
want to attend this year, give her that. That's my opinion.
I mean the mom in the room, I assume you
have no dispute there. I can't think of one.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And if if she never wants to go back to
see her mother in law, I also wouldn't be mad
at that either.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Like truly, no, not in a bad way.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
But like she's got three kids, she's gotta drag around
Like I'm barely getting around with one kid right in
my little Nissan, Like it is a lot of work
to get around town with the kid, So now pack
up three kids, go across state lines. No, And like, yes,
she's six weeks postpartum, she's in a diaper. Like it's
a lot, I'm serious, just a lot going on in
her world. And she does not have to please anybody
truly ever ever, but like especially for the holiday season
(04:34):
and Christmas, and if mother in law feels like she
wants to see grandkids and do these memories, like maybe
they could work something out or mother in law comes
over or something.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Maybe that's a big maybe I don't I don't know
that the situation.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't want that either. Right, they want to talk
about how your house not clean?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's a big minute. She sounds the kind of woman
who would do that.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, it shouln't sound great.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
No, eight, one, three, five, you guys at the jerry,
I'm sure people have something to say about this. I
mean my mom, if she were listening, she would say,
my nieces are three and five, and it's like she
wants my sister to load them up and bring them
to and my sister does it a couple times a year.
I know it's a lot of work. Granted my mom
did it with us. So it's one of those things
where it's like, you know, grandmas want to see their
(05:16):
grandkids and my mom does travel to Dallas an awful
lot to see them. So it's not like she doesn't
pull her weight. My sister would tell you, well, it's
a lot of work to bring these kids around. Well, yeah,
I mean, but it's also part of being a family.
The thing for me is, first of all, this is
the third kid under five, was it?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The second thing is really the proximity to birth. Like, look,
we're talking about six weeks an infant were newborn. I mean,
that's totally unreasonable to ask. Maybe in a year or two,
but I don't know. Why isn't mother in law jumping
a gold to where they are?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Well, she might have offered that, but I don't think
that this daughter in law once are there either, because
think about it, if I'm in a diaper, it's probably
as saying I'm going through postpartum I had little kids.
I don't necessarily want to host my in law either, right,
I just want a year off to get my mind right,
get my body right, and raise these kids, and then
maybe we can pick up the tradition next year.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
If mother in law's thrown out a bunch of scenarios
that require very little from new mom, then I might say, Okay,
is there no compromise here? You know if she's if
she's saying, I'll fly to you, I'll stay in a hotel,
I'll stay out of your way. I just want to
see my grandkids on Christmas or near Christmas or whatever,
and she's saying, no, no, no. The problem is, I
think sometimes the personalities of these very eager mom grandmothers
(06:34):
can be off putting in itself. You know, it can
come off very aggressive when they have the best in
Like my mom, I love her to death. She has
the absolute best intention, but she pushes and you know,
she and my sister are the same woman in many ways.
So it's like you're pushing you and you wouldn't like
to be you know what I mean. So it's like
you're getting a no to set boundaries. But I know
(06:56):
you and you see that as rejection, but yet you
have the best intention. You just want to be a
part of their lives. I get all of that for me,
though it's six weeks ago you had a baby. No,
they're not going to travel to you.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
I no.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I would love to hear from the thirteen because I
struggled with this being the only girl in my family.
I don't have kids. My brothers have the kids. But
I feel like you're so used to your family tradition,
like we always get together on this day. How dare
you have to go to your other in law? You know,
like I don't want to share you. I don't want
to share the family. So it's hard, but you have
to just be okay with it because people are allowed
(07:31):
to set boundaries.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, well, and you know that there was if you've
been listening for a little while years ago, there was
a it was a rough transition in our house. And
my sister said, we're not coming for Christmas anymore or
Thanksgiving because we want to have our own traditions in
our own home.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that was hard. And it wasn't because she was wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was hard because our family is very close that
we're used to doing things a certain way for a
long time, and that included when we were young and
our grandparents and the whole thing. So we're breaking a
multi generational tradition. Should have been together on Christmas and
as and people have said, why don't you go to Dallas?
I wouldn't say were invited, Like, honestly, I don't. I
don't think that's I don't think that's even an option.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Because and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I don't think it's a lack of love. I think
I think she's drawing a firm boundary. Now is that
a boundary that I would draw that firmly? No, I
would give a little more than my sister is because
she is getting a lot too, you know what I mean.
But like because I just get on a plane and
go there and stay in a hotel, it's like I'm
not entirely sure we were included. So so you know,
(08:36):
I think I do think there's give and take. I
think I think sometimes, you know, the burden is on
the parents to provide opportunities for the grandparents, and then
the grandparents. I think sometimes I have to show grace
to the kids when you know it. But yeah, it's
it's a very hard thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Family.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Family can become very complicated, even when there's a lot
of love. Hey, Dominique, Hi, Hi, so you have a
new work. Congratulations by the way, thank you. And so
you hear this scenario where you've got a and I
wonder if the mother in law because you hear mother
in law and then you automatically like feel this disconnect, right,
(09:13):
but not necessarily that. But here's this woman she really
wants everyone together on Christmas, and her daughter in law
who just had a baby six weeks ago, saying, nah,
we're not doing this, and she has two other kids
under five, like, I can't do it right now, and
there's there's some tension there.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
What do you think, Yeah, I have a three month old,
I have a three year old, and it's the first
six months are so hard, especially around like flue season,
RSV season, and the holiday season. On top of that,
the mom and her family should be at home with
her kids, her young ones. This is like primetime Stanta
time for them. They should be waking up on Christmas
(09:50):
morning in their home in their pajamas with their family.
And Grandma is now in law or on the mom's
side are now extended family, So it's it's about the
family that you made, not the family you came from.
Now they need to be prioritized. So Grandma needs to
go to them and at least like be the community
that she probably claims that she is, because it takes
(10:12):
a lot to take a tribe to raise kids, especially
during the fluid holiday season.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
At minimum, At minimum, what she's pitching should be things
that are easy on the MoMA.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
And that's so real to say. When you say you
know you are the family. What did you say, the
extended family? You're Sney family. Yeah, hard, but it's.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
True, you know true.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
And my parents too, My my family comes over to
my house because it's about the grandkids. Now, it's not
about anybody else. Yeahid season with Christmas and Santa and
then a new baby come out? Yeah what about mom
and baby and the family.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Traditions need to change.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I think the harder you push, the less likely you
are to be included in those traditions, and that can
be hard to Dominique, thank you so much and congratulations again.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Have a good day.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
You guys too.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Glad you call. Hey, Kimmy, good morning. Do it next year, Kimmy, Hey, Kimmy, Kimmy, Kimmy, Kimmy.
I just I just picked up the phone. I don't
know what you were saying. You gotta you gotta start over.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
Okay, Well, what I'm saying is that this lady's in
the right. I just popped out a kid, I got
two other toddlers. There ain't no way I am going
six hours with a newborn to Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I am going to tell my mother in law.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
I'm sorry, but we're doing this next year. You all
go ahead, everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Go ahead, do it.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
I'm not offended. Please by all means, go ahead. I'll
wait till next year and I'll see you all next year.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Let's take time.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, yes, Kimmy, thank you so much. I'm really glad
you called. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's again six weeks ago. That's uh.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So we have Kimmy. Now we have kim Hi, kim
how you doing? Are you doing great? Kiki's court?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I when I I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
When I heard this, this immediately really frustrated me because
I have a not technically newborn vibe a micro premi.
He was born at twenty five weeks. He was born,
you know, back in May, and even though you know
he's still he's like almost seven months, like it's still
newborn kind of status, and any little cold could send
(12:26):
him to the hospital. So the fact that there's this
judgment for you know, wanting to keep her, the mom safe.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
The baby safe, is just so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
How's your son doing, By the way, he's really good.
He's done a little bit of oxygen.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
But you know, he's doing really good, but we have
to be so careful, like they can't bring him around
to anybody sick. So yeah, I just I fight for
the mom in this situation.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah always.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, Well, Kim, thank you, have a good day, good
holiday as well, you too. Love you, guys, I love
you too.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Thanks for listening. Appreciated. Jackie.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hello, Hi JAGGIEI what you take you're the jury.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
So no, I don't think that she's wrong at all.
I had a similar situation. I had my daughter's July
second and then my system off's wedding was the fifteenth
of July, and she wanted me to go with my daughter,
and I hold her no because I just had her,
you know, and same thing. You know, I would be
in a dress, still wearing diaper, still healing, and she
(13:27):
was bad, and she thought that I was using that
as an excuse not to go to her wedding. So
I sided with the mom here. She's not wrong at
all whatsoever. Especially the nurse even told us, like before
we left the hospital, she's like, make sure that the
baby doesn't go out because she she's say feed a
lot of times where you know, parents want to take
(13:48):
the baby everywhere, ends up sick, that ends up back
in the hospital, and especially with ours b being so
like serious, you know, her babies do end up on
oxygen and you know, and passed away from that. I
agree with her on her at whole, you know, because
that's very important as well as a mom to heal
and not you know, like start doing stuff too early,
(14:12):
because then you know you're gonna have all these those cares.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, thank you, Jacks bomb here, Yeah,
glad you called. Have a good day. This is a
good point on the text, by the way, And I
was thinking about this the other day too. I think
we give too much weight to the actual date of
the holiday. Why does it have to be twelve twenty five?
Get together in January? The kids don't care. My family
(14:34):
celebrated Christmas as early as the first week of December.
If that's when extended family could get together, I guess,
I guess there's it's kind of a mental thing. Everyone
else is together on this day, doing this thing, posting
their pictures on Instagra exactly so.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But I mean, you know, I'm like, yesterday I was
at the airport. I see the airline pilots get on
this thing. I'm like, you know, a lot of these
guys are gonna have to work on Christmas, Christmas Eve.
I'm sure that they have kids. And it's like, well,
we'll just do it when I get back, or we'll
do it the day before or for your friends right right,
because you're as responder exactly, he's not a hobby's a
firefighter on the radio.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You're my first.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
So clear, this isn't off on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
The Paulina so.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The first person I call when I need something, So
you know, fire in the house, Paulina. You know I'm
choking on something. Paulina. Hey Teresa, Hey, Hi Teresa. So
Kicki's court. Basically, we have a situation where a mother
in law wants her daughter in law and her grandkids
at Christmas, but she just gave birth six weeks ago
and she's saying no, and she's getting guilted for that.
Speaker 11 (15:36):
I think she.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Has ever right to say no. I gave birth my daughter,
who's going to be eighteen December twenty first had to
get released from the hospital early because both sides of
my family still expected me to host and I did.
Speaker 10 (15:50):
This.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Mom should be empowered and stay home.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Wow, I think my mom would tell you the same thing.
She hosted Thanksgiving. I think she had me the next day,
but she didn't know I was.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I was early.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But yeah, I think the expectation was or maybe it
was maybe was it. I don't remember and one of
the case. Maybe people have expectations and oh wow, crazy,
that is nuts. Now, it's weird that you still won't
let them come eighteen years later, but that's that's a
whole different thing.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You definitely won't let them come. So there it is.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
My mother love hosts now and she's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
There you go, Theresa, Thank you, have a good day,
Mary Christmas. I don't think there's I'm looking at all
these texts. There's not one counter take here. There's not
one person going.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Well, I was looking for a boomer that would like
stand on business again.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Where's my mom? She's in a sleep still. Later she'll
text him and she'll think it's me, but it's to everybody.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah I did it, but maybe I'm a mad.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I promise you, whenever the moment this is heard in Arizona,
which is going to be somewhere three or four hours
from now, I'm going to get a call.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But you know, I'm awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I'm your It comes fress Mom.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
She hadn't even heard in her sleeps you gon'll wake
up now. Karen's entertainment report is on the Fread show.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
FREDI have the little clippiana that our sweet belt want
to clip pretty fake.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I'm going to do the clippy right now.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So earlier this morning, we kept asking Jason Brown, who
had his boots on the ground at our iHeartRadio jingle
Ball in New York, like what did you see?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Who was there?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Who did you see? You on fun backstage? And he
was really excited that he saw t. J. Holmes and
Robot okay, and he casually forgot to mention that the
entire cast of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives were there.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He forgot to mention that Robert de Naro was there,
and he forgot.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You mentioned Robert DeNiro literally Jason and Robert de Niro interacted,
and that, oh yeah, there was this guy, shake my hand.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You also forgot to mention that there was a damn
spice girl.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There, like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Okay, like this we need it, We need like one
of those GoPros or something to follow her.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Like wear it on your head. That yeah, that's that's
a super.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Fan of gift.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
These are not casual things anyways.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You remember to turn them off sometimes. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
But it was Melsey and she came with great news.
Here it is. It has to happen.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So I want to be sat next June and we
have to.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Celebrate and I can't even the best.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
What was it reunion to her?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yes, so wanna Be turns thirty years old, which makes
me feel old next year. And she said in order
to celebrate, they have to get themselves back on stage.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Will our girl Victoria go? I don't know, but just
do it? Because of the will they won't wait? Won't they?
Is driving me crazy these days.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Elsewhere on the carpet, Alex Warren casually mentioned that he's
now friends with Jennifer Aniston, which I thought was really amazing.
Speaking of Alex, to watch the really good performances from him,
Nellie Jesse, Murph, Zara Larson, Ed Sheeran, and more. iHeartRadio
partnered with ABC to bring the iHeartRadio jingle Ball Tour
to even more fans across the country, and exclusive network
(19:22):
special will air on December seventeenth and the next day on.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Hulu, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
We talked about the first two episodes of the Taylor
Swift Disney Plus docu series The End of an Era earlier,
and Jason mentioned his takeaway was kind of like, Wow,
she's not perfect. We never get to see like her
being emotional or not just being the star that she is.
I think one person online wrote, I know she was
going through it because I saw bags under her ear,
(19:49):
like I've never seen that before. But there's one scene
where we see her getting super emotional because it is
the first show back after that. You know, they narrowly
avoided that Harris attack in Vienna, so it was the
first show after that, and you see her really telling
her mom like she's dealing with a lot of anxiety
and having a physical reaction to it as anyone would be.
(20:09):
And so she puts on an audiobook and it's like
some woman telling a story, and so of course everyone
found out what the audiobook was that she was listening
to to try to calm down.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's a popular thriller that came out last year.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's called The God of the Woods and it's a
book by Liz Moore. And it follows the disappearance of
a young girl from the aneron decks a summer camp
in nineteen seventy five, and the unraveling of a long
buried family secret that surfaces in the search for her.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So that was what was trying to calm her down.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So I kind of feel more like her than anyone else,
because you know, I like to listen to my little
murder before bed.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The book was on the New.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It was a bestseller list, and the author literally wrote
on social woke up this morning to a DM explosion.
Thank you Swifties for your sharp eyes and ears and
the love of reading. She also showed how she calms
down for a show. She takes a bath and she's like,
I wait for hours for these adrenals. This adrenaline to stop.
I get in a bath, I order room service, and
I sign stuff until I get tired.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
She's like most people take drugs. I just ride it
until you know I can finally go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
This year's NFL Playoffs, you guys, will be the first
without Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes since nineteen
ninety eight, so it's gonna be a little bit different
of course, Patrick Mahomes got a big old injury if
you did not hear that.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
So it's kind of I don't know, it's gonna be
different this year. Give some other people a chance, I guess.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
And you guys were beside yourself that this movie beat Wicked,
but Zutopia to regain the top spot at the box
office with twenty six million in its third weekend of release.
So they're beating all the other movies right now, So
Zutopio too.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
If you want to catch up on anything from the
show today or any day, just take the Fred Show
on demand on the free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
The Fred Show is on Fred's Fun Fact Fredland.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So much Nice.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Did you know that Santa Claus originally wore green, brown, or.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Blue, not red? And do you want to know why
he wears red?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The red suit only became iconic after Coca Cola's nineteen
thirties Christmas ads, which then standardized the look. Before that,
Santa outfits were all over the place. You could accessorize. Wow,
he could do whatever he wanted.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
He's an influencer.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, you know, his swag changed for the bag and
I understand it.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So maybe we can we can make another adjustment and
get him in a Kiki's tea.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
I mean, I don't know if I got the bet
enough money for Santa.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Save that cat on Christmas me more fread show next
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