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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's the Fred Show. One O three five Kiss FM,
Chicago's number one hit music station. We're granting another holiday
wish every day this week.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're doing it with our.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Friend Amy, with it right, one one hundred truck Breck
and your big bag of money.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Amy. That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
This is the best time of year. It's the best
time to shower people with kift and hope and money
of course to make it all happen. And one eight
hundred truck Ark. We have all of that, so let's
do it well.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I gotta thank you, Amy, because all year long you've
been super generous. Next year we've got stuff planned as well.
With you in one eight hundred truck wreck. But but
you jump the opportunity to help us with this, because
everybody on the show loves being able to do this.
But the budget is tight, but thanks to you and
that you've got one of those black American Express cards,
don't you. You got the kind that they only invite
you to.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
That's right, because I don't have a budget. As long
as I'm the only one that owns all this stuff,
I have no budget. Fred, we can do whatever we
want to do. So let's do some good for Jackie
and her dad.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Let's do it right now. I'm going to welcome them
Jackie and Bill. Yes, Oh we got to go get Bill.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
I told her she got answer alone and then make
sure that he was there afterwards.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
We got it. I can't do it without Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
We wanted to surprise him.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
Dad are here?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Hey Bill, Bill, Bill, you have no idea what's going
on right now?

Speaker 7 (01:40):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know Jackie, absolutely no, none at all.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, Well, Bill, I already like you for some reason.
I just I think you're a good guy. But Jackie
wrote to us to the Fred Show on Kiss FM
and wanted us to know about you. Jackie, will you
read the note that you sent us.

Speaker 8 (01:54):
Yes, I will dear fred Show and Eni this year.
My holiday wish is for my dad. There's not enough
time to write down all the reasons that he was deserving,
so I'll highlight what he's done this last year. In
November of twenty twenty four, I fell very sick. I
was unable to work for a full two months, bed ridden,
barely able to walk even too the bathroom, and so
weak for a seemingly healthy thirty three year old. It

(02:17):
was a terrifying time. My dad turned all of his time,
energy and focus to helping his extremely sick kid. He
somehow managed to hold his job while driving me to
doctor after doctor, being in and out of the er,
cooking me meals, tending to me daily while my fance
was working long hours, staying up late researching answers, remedies,
and new modalities. He spent so much money trying alternative

(02:40):
medicine treatments. The list carries I don't know that he
slept a full night for months. Dash forward thirteen months.
I'm still dealing with some stubborn lingering symptoms, but I'm
back to work, walking, traveling, and coditive function is back.
I'm so much better, and I credited to him. He
saw his daughter suffering and channeled everything to my healing mention.

(03:00):
In the middle of all of this, his brother in
law died suddenly, so he had to take off to
Boston to support his sister for a week. He's the
most selfless human and the best dad. I wish I
could give him even ten percent of what he gives
me in this life.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
He's just the.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
Type of guy to give away all he has to
help people in need. He's always putting off doing anything
for himself. My holiday wish is to help him with
his bills and for him to go on to shopping
spree or do something for himself. He deserves it more
than anyone in my totally biased opinion. Thank you Jackie mine, No.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Not at all, and be like, this is what dad's
are supposed to do, but this isn't what all dads do.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
But you are that guy.

Speaker 9 (03:41):
Well, thank you, But in my mind, that's just what
dad to do. Don't think twice about it. My daughter
is everything to me and I don't care how old
she is. She's my little girl and if she's in need,
that's my priority and always will be.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Wow and I think a lot of people listening now
are going, yeah, yeah, I mean there are a lot
of great parents out there. But I mean for you
to dedicate yourself and to figure out a way to
not only help other people in your family and still
go to work and do all of this stuff, I
would imagine you've put a lot of your own needs
to the side.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Yep, had to.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
Don't even think about it. I don't know. I know
ton of consideration.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Amy.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
We like, we like Bill a lot and Billy here.
Amy is my friend from one hundred truck creck. But
Amy also has infinite funds, okay, and so we call
Amy when we want to do something nice for someone
like you. Bill and Amy, what's that going to be?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, I think we got it's hard to Bill about.
You know, you got to get Bill stacked up, and
you want to at least your daughter wants you go
on a shopping spree and do something for yourself. What
would you do for yourself if you had unlimited funds and.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Don't say give it to somebody else. That is an
unacceptable answer right this minute.

Speaker 10 (04:45):
You need to.

Speaker 9 (04:48):
I never even think about it. I don't. I can't
even think. I figure out something though.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
You need to absolutely well, you need to figure out something.
Because behalf a one eight hundred truck wreck, I'm gonna
make sure you can pay all your bills. I'm gonna
make sure that. I don't know if you want what
do guys get new TVs main case, some sort of
like you know, power tool.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
For that.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
If you want to take a trip somewhere, you're gonna
have money for that because on behalf of one eight
hundred truck wreck, we're gonna give you five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
There you go, five thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (05:25):
Wow, that's unbelievable. That is absolutely unbelievable. Now what I
expect you this morning?

Speaker 5 (05:32):
You deserve it.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Dad, you do Bill?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
If I find out you spent one cent on anyone else,
I'm okay. You might be a bigger guy than me.
I don't know, but I'm still gonna come for you.

Speaker 10 (05:41):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I'm coming too, and I'm tough.

Speaker 9 (05:44):
I will have to fight my instinct, but I promise
that is unbelievable. Thank you so much. I don't feel
like I deserve any of this, but.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, yeah, we all disagree.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
But Jackie, thank you for sharing your story about your Dad,
End and Bill have an amazing holiday and enjoyed the
shopping spreen or whatever you're gonna do with five thousand.
You don't have to tell us. It can be moved,
it can be a little private thing, whatever you.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Want to do.

Speaker 10 (06:10):
Thank you guys, so much, Thank you so much. Wait
wait here, thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Jackie. Have a good day.

Speaker 10 (06:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You did a good show.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You were nervous, you did a great John. You're gonna
be nervous about We're a bunch of clowns. It's all good.

Speaker 7 (06:32):
You guys are unhinged today and I'm so hereful.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, it's really becoming that way. Thank you, Jackie, have
a good day. Fred's show is on.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's Tuesday, December sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
The French Show is on.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Hi Jason, Hi, Hi, Paulina Hi, ke Kame Martin, Kayla
Chouse today sh but Sheddy will be here in about
twenty minutes. Six hundred and fifty bucks if you can
beat her in five pop culture questions. That money is yours,
which I'm sure would be very nice to buy Christmas
presents for yourself. Yes, yes, almost on other people. But

(07:03):
that was silly. The Entertainmer Report after Stay or Go Kikey,
what are you working on?

Speaker 11 (07:07):
Well, Lizzo has broken her silence about those wild allegations
from her former background, answers, we'll talk about.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
That coming up.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Look at you talking about that kelling. We'll talk about
that helling.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
We'll try my bit.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Man, you're doing well. Frend show is on. It's stay
or Go, all.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Right, Jessica, Good morning, Jessica. How are you.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm good, How are you doing great?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Jessica. I've got your h your note here for stay
or Go. We're gonna at the end of this, we're
gonna side decide collectively the room and then everyone listening
eight five five five one three five the trajectory for
the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Because I don't know if you knew this, and.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's in a fine print, but like, whatever we decide
is what you're gonna have to do with your life.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You Unfortunately, we're recently in a car accident, and I'm sorry,
but you're okay.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
You're as okay as can be now right.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
Yeah, you know, it was a year and a half ago,
and I have a bunch of injuries that you know,
I survived. I'm here and I'm really happy to be alive, good, and.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So there's some repercussions though, like the life is a
little bit different now, you're not maybe moving around as
well as you were a year and a half ago,
and things like that.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yeah, of course, you know, I'm not really like able
to walk or really like act like myself. It's not
the same. And you know, I understand that it's kind
of a new version of me and that it would
be hard for anybody to deal with. But my husband
has never said anything about that I kind of look

(08:41):
new or that I act a bit different.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
But he has been.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
Treating me a bit different. He doesn't really want to
have sex with me, and he's not really romantic.

Speaker 10 (08:51):
He's just kind of different. I guess, okay, and everything,
you know, go ahead, no, no worries.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
I tried to talk to him about it, and he
keeps assuring me that he doesn't feel differently about me,
and he does say that I'm beautiful, but I don't know,
the actions aren't really saying the same thing and saying
the opposite.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Are the keys, like like you're not you're not exercising
as much, or like you sort of form his change?
I mean, what what is what has changed exactly.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
Yeah, I used to take classes every single day, different
workout classes, and I'm not really moving as well. So
I can take yoga maybe twice a week, which isn't
the same, and it's I'm not even as good of
course as I was before.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
And you know, I used.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
To do so many things around the house and I
can't clean as well, so I'm not really doing that
as well. You know, I had to buy like a
little robot that goes around the apartment.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Clean a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, And is this permanent?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Like is it are you in the process of I'm
just trying to sort of understand what what life looks
like now and how is this sort of a permanent
change over time? Will you sort of rehab and then
maybe be able to to because I mean, I don't
really care what this guy thinks for yourself. I mean,
if you aspire to be this sounds like fitness and that,
you know sort of thing was something that was important

(10:16):
to you prior you to your accident.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
So is this something that you'll be able to get
back to or not?

Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think not to the capacity I was doing before.
And yes, I am and rehabit working towards being a
better version of myself is from the accident, but I'm
not there yet. It's been a year and a half
and it's going to take a bit of time and
I'm doing my best.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And so you guys have talked about this, Jessica, and
you've said, hey, you know, I've noticed a difference since
the accident, and I feel like maybe you don't. I
h what's the word I would use. I'm not as
appealing to you as I've noticed that. I feel that
you're not as appealing. I'm not as appealing to you
as I was before the accident. And this guy has
reassured you that he'd doesn't feel any differently, But yet

(11:01):
his actions, you know, as far as intimacy and things
like that, say say something different.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Yeah, it says something completely different, and you know it's
it's hurtful. And I've tried saying it many, many times,
and he just keeps reassuring me he feels the same way.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And so the question becomes like, is it is it
always going to be this way or is it something
that he that he adjusts to or does he come
around or I mean, is this the new sort of
state of normal in your in your marriage, in which
case you'd have to ask yourself, are we ever going
to have the same connection? And if we're not, then
what does that look like? I assume that's kind of
where you're at. Yeah, no, it is what does your

(11:39):
gut tell you? Does your gut tell you that this
is that he'll come around? Or does does your gut
tell you that he's just not comfortable with the new normal?
And and maybe he sees you differently despite and doesn't
want to hurt your feelings, which, of course it would
be devastating for your partner to say that to you.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
You know, right now it feels like he sees me differently,
which is I keep asking him, you know how he
feels about me, and I need to be reassured. Right
now it doesn't feel like he sees me in the
same way at all?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And how long could you go on like this before
you move on?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
I don't know. It's hard because he's my husband and
I love him, so's it's tricky. I just I don't
feel wanted or loved the way that I did before,
So I don't know, and I knew that.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I know that's kind of cliche to say, but I
mean and from the guy who's never been married, but
it isn't in a relationship. But like you know, you
marry someone, this is supposed to be for life and yeah,
and you're supposed to be in what is it that
they say in sickness and in health? I mean, so
you don't necessarily marry permanently the person who you married
whenever you did. You know, people obviously, time evolves and

(12:57):
people change and things happen, and people and I'm sure
you know, maybe he's exactly the same guy as he
was whenever you married him.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
And it's very easy for all of us to say, well,
that's the deal, that's the code, that's what you agreed to.
But I mean, if we ask ourselves honestly, are we
prepared for our partner to get sicker? Were prepared for
our partner to decide that they don't want to take
care of themselves anymore? Are we prepared for our partner
to be in an accident? Are we truly prepared for that?
I wonder if people are being really honest, you hope

(13:27):
the answer is always yes, But is it really because
you know who wants to become? And I'm not saying
this is your example, but I mean, who really wants
to become a caregiver?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Who really wants to have to do?

Speaker 7 (13:38):
And then?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
But that's what we agreed to.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
But I guess what I'm trying to get to is
the other side of this, the honest side where it's
this wasn't you know that he thought he was marrying
one thing and now he feels like he's getting something
different and he's having a hard time with that connection.
Now that's a him problem, not a you problem. But
I mean I think we, you know, we kind of
have to be honest with ourselves, that this is something
that could happen in any relationship, despite people saying over

(14:05):
and over again, sickness it in health, this is what
you're supposed to do. And so I guess I'm going
with this is at what point do you say this
guy is clearly not prepared for that. He said it,
but he doesn't mean it, and you know he may
love you, But I guess you know, at what point
do you say I need to hit reset on this?

(14:26):
Like this, this guy's not clearly in it for everything,
He's not all in and so maybe I need to
move on and find somebody who is because you can't
be expected to live this way feeling kind of rejected
for the rest of your life. I mean, how long
are you supposed to wait for this guy to decide
that that he's above all this.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
I don't know, you know, is it another year, is
it another couple months? I don't know. It's hard because
you know, if I was in his position, of course,
I I think i'd be acting differently.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
But I don't know, and you.

Speaker 11 (15:04):
Don't suspect that there's any shenanigans going on, like he
may be in another situation.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
Oh okay, I mean he's he's like word wise, he's
really been there for me, you know, he always says
that I'm beautiful and is very loving in words, but
the actions are not really there.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, this is really sad and I'm really sorry that
you guys are going through this. And I feel like,
to a friend's point, like, yeah, maybe he's not prepared,
but is anybody ever prepared for a transition like this
in life when you have become the caregiver, whether it's
to your partner, an aging parent, even your children, Like
this can happen to anybody, so nobody's exempt from any
of this. So I do think that he needs to

(15:46):
step it up and be the husband that he promised
to be when he said right through sickness and through health.
And yes, not everybody's equipped to be that, I understand,
but we that's chosen family, right when you marry somebody,
it's chosen family.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Like we are now a unit. So like I feel like, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I mean, people say this, but are they really prepared
by the way, you know, And I don't know your
situation completely, Jessica, but like I mean, you're you're you're mobile,
you're still you're exercising, you're working at it, you're trying
to be your best self. You're limited in certain ways.
I mean, it could be so much worse. People deal
with much worse every single day, And I guess I

(16:21):
just wonder, you know, maybe there's a transition period where
he sort of mourns what used to be, but then
then you step it up and you go, Okay, no,
it's I married more than this.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It was.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's it's deeper than that. And it sounds like maybe
he didn't. I mean, a year and a half is
a long time to wait for someone to uh for
you to feel wanted again, and you deserve to feel wanted.
So I don't know, maybe that's the conversation. You know,
maybe it's and I would love to know what people
have been through this or you know, after pregnancy or
or or or you know, and I get a sound

(16:52):
all about women. You know, maybe a guy went through
an accident and he was, you know, very physically fit
and then now he's not as much. Or maybe maybe
people just lose the energy or the will, or they
get busy and they don't prioritize things that were once
important to them that people once found attractive. But I
guess at what point do you sit down and say, look,
I you know, you say that you care about me
the same way, but it doesn't feel that way. And

(17:14):
if it's never going to feel that way again, then
you know, maybe maybe our connection is lost. And that's
very very sad, But that may be the reality. I mean,
is it is it something worth talking about in those terms?

Speaker 10 (17:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
I've spoken to him about these terms. But I think
it's about putting a timeline. Don't you think about when
when it starts to affect me that I can't be
in this or do this anymore? Where I feel unwanted
for this long.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, the timeline is yours, by the way I started
interrupt you, the timeline is yours to make you can't
really go to him and be like, hey, I'll tell you.
I give you six months to get your act together
and remember the person you married and that and the
person inside of here or else. I mean, I think
you have to decide at some point do you think
he's ever going to come around? And if not, you know,
you obviously still bring a tremendous amount of value to

(18:09):
the world. You're the same exact person that he married,
So off we go.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I think they should try counseling.

Speaker 11 (18:17):
I don't think she should give up on him, because
the way that she said, he's still speaking to her
and he's still, you know, telling her she's beautiful. Maybe
he's just going through a mental transition of trying to
find his footing in you all's new reality. Like you know,
when something happens to your partner that changes you too.
So maybe he's just going through a rough time, and
I may I think maybe you guys can work it

(18:37):
out in counseling.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
I don't I don't want to tell you throw your
marriage away.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, I definitely think maybe there's a different Maybe some
help with the communication would be good.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
But yeah, but I mean if he's not.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
A year and a half is a long time for
a guy to tell you one thing and act differently. Sure, So, yeah, Jess,
let me take some phone calls on this. I want
to see what people have to say. But I wish
you the best.

Speaker 11 (18:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean again, you know, people say, oh, yeah, I'm
in it for the long all, I'm in it for
whatever it is. And then but then is sometimes you realize, well,
now this, maybe they're not in fact, And then and
then I think is it wrong to say, okay, well
you're not the you weren't actually in this for sickness
in and hell, so we got to move on. I
gotta do something else. I got to find somebody who
values this version of me. I thought it was you.

(19:17):
But it's not tough because otherwise you just live your
whole life the rest of your life like this. I mean,
if you tried everything, is there any shame in prioritizing yourself?
I mean, maybe there's shame on his side, because well,
he didn't live up to his end of the deal.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
But hey, Holly, Yes, Hi, Holly, Hey, good morning. Say
or go? What do you think?

Speaker 6 (19:39):
I think definitely say it sounds a lot like my
husband when I had gone through cancer chemo radiation.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
And I told him that I, you know, felt comfortable.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Being intimate, but he was so afraid of not wanting
to hurt me, not wanting me to feel coomfortable, not
wanting me to feel pressured. And it's just it sounds
like he's very supportive of her and these are the
bumps in the world.

Speaker 12 (20:04):
That we go through in a marriage.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, yeah, But do you think but that's I guess
That's what I'm getting at, is that's what you think,
and that's what you hope your partner thinks when they
agree to be with you for life. But do you
think that at this rate, that's really the commitment that like,
do you think that's really where his head is?

Speaker 6 (20:24):
I do from just hearing what she's saying about him
being so supportive. I don't think we have a right
to tell anybody, you know, what to do with their
bodies and how to change.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
And I think that it does.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Sound like he is willing, you.

Speaker 12 (20:40):
Know, to be there through thick and thin and talk
to her about it, and I do feel sorry for
her that she feels it that's a certain way, But
I hope that she can get a little bit of.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Comfort, maybe thinking that that's how he's feeling.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, I guess he's a year and a half of
words and actions that don't match the words. That's that's
a long time to wonder if if he's going to
come around, if he's going to accept the new normal.
So I don't know how I mean to use it.
A year and a half is in two years?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is it three? Is it five? Is it ten? It
is it?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
We married each other, So if the if the intimacy
aspect of this relationship is now fundamentally changed, it doesn't matter.
We just stick with it. Like I guess, that's my question.
I don't know, you know, So Holly, thank you, and
I'm sorry you've been through that. Yeah, final thought, no,
final thought, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (21:28):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 13 (21:29):
No, I do I know, So, I do know that
it's a long time. I just want to know that
I have been there. It was quite a while, but again.

Speaker 12 (21:40):
It was just on his side mostly, and so I'm
sorry that she's going through it, and I thank you.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Guys, I love you.

Speaker 12 (21:46):
I will listen to you every day.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Thank you very much, have a good day.

Speaker 12 (21:50):
Thanks you too.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Glad you called Michelle.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Hi, Michelle, good morning, Hey Michelle. So just to recap here,
if you just tune in, this woman, Jessica in Sergo.
She had an accident and it sounds like she's I mean,
she's not completely immobile by any means, but she's sort
of not the version of herself sounds like physically that

(22:13):
she was prior to the accident.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
She's working at.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It, but she feels kind of rejected by her partner
now and he says that he doesn't feel any differently,
but his actions don't back that up. And it's been
a year and a half of this and they have
had the conversations and they've tried to work through it,
but it's not changing.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know, what do you do?

Speaker 14 (22:30):
You know, I've been married now twenty seven years, and
that's kind of what marriage is.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
You're going to have those ups and downs. Those ups
and downs might last a couple of years, but it's
not I mean, it's a matter if you're in it
for the long run.

Speaker 14 (22:46):
And it really really sounded to me like she's carrying
baggage that she's feeling less of herself and she might
be putting that on him. I think they should go
talk to some But I don't think that's why you
walk away. I mean, when you see these couples that
have been married sixty years, you don't think they've had

(23:08):
their stuff. And I'm my husband and I have had
our stuff and we're finally, twenty seven years later, getting
to the other side, I hope, with that rainbow and
where it's just like fabulous.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
So that's an interesting perspective because a year and a
half that was like a long time, But then when
you think of it over the course of a lifetime,
a year and a half is nothing, I guess. But
that's the thing that that's what we're trying to get
to here, And of course we're not dumb radio people
going to figure it out. But it's like, you know,
in five years, if nothing changes and you saw the signs,
then is it like, well, I maybe maybe this isn't

(23:45):
the guy that I thought I married. Maybe he's not
actually committed the way that I thought he was, and
so we probably should have moved on a while ago.
You know, I guess it's how do you know, Michelle,
And I guess what you're saying is you don't necessarily know,
but hey, we made this commitment, so we're going to
stick with it forever.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
It's that question.

Speaker 14 (24:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's just that's kind of what you
signed up for. I mean, I guess that's how I
view it. It's you know, and you know, maybe they
don't have kids.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
You know, maybe it's not complicated as complicated.

Speaker 14 (24:12):
I have four kids, so you know, maybe it's not
that complicated without kids, but with kids.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, now I think that's good.

Speaker 14 (24:23):
It's part of what when you see the people that
have been married sixty years and you say, you know,
what's they have secret sauce. It's like it's times like
this when you have rush rough patches, that that's the
secret sauce.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, thank you, Michelle, have a good day.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I love you, guys.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Hey love you to When she makes a good point.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
My grandparents are married for almost seventy years, it's like,
you're gonna tell me, in seventy years, there weren't you know,
lots of the health issues.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
There was a decade Granny probably was like, but.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
But do we even still have those same like and again,
this is now, this is getting even like more deep.
But do we even still have those same values anymore?

Speaker 14 (24:59):
Like?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Is that even that?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And I guess that's what I was getting at prior
is are people really getting married anymore? Truly thinking in
their head no matter what happens, this is for life.
Because if you if that's not your mentality, then what
Michelle is saying doesn't really matter because that person isn't
isn't feeling the same thing, like, they don't see it
the same way. They're already out and so this is

(25:22):
just not to hurt her feelings. This is almost to
make it her idea, you know, so to assuage some
form of guilty.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Rachel, Rachel, who are you talking to?

Speaker 7 (25:38):
I'm talking to like three people.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Because I'm going to listen to your you know, external
dialogue there. But I can think I came in mid sentence,
what did you want to say?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Good morning? And welcome.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Good morning?

Speaker 15 (25:52):
I was just saying he is in caregiving mode right now,
that part of his brain is just turned off. He's
obviously in love with her and wants to take care
of her. They need to see an intimacy therapist. And
to put it lightly I think she in that intimacy
department needs to take things into her own hands and

(26:18):
make some purchases.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Purchases. Oh oh, okay, all right, we can leave it there. Purchases.
I think we can fill in the blank on that one.
So she needs to sort of maybe she needs to
make you're saying she used to spice things up in
some ways, maybe see.

Speaker 15 (26:38):
Yeah, And honestly, they really do need to see a
sex therapist, because I don't.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Put this all on her at all.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Like maybe partially, I mean, maybe she's emitting or emoting
some kind of you know, feeling of insecurity, which is unattractive,
but like you know, it's also his job to sort
of meet her where she is. If in fact, we're
doing this whole lifelong.

Speaker 15 (26:56):
Things on her at all. I do not think this
is on her at all. He has that part of
his brain has just turned off because of whatever she
went through. It was trauma, and he's been through trauma too, right,
watching her get better and watching her body possibly be
broken in places he doesn't want to hurt her, and

(27:17):
he's in mommy mode. He is taking care of her,
and it's sometimes hard to turn that part of your
brain back on.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you, Rachel, have a good
damn glad you called.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yep. It's just so hard to know, and everyone's saying
stay like all the text, all the things, it's just
so hard to know, like is this a phase or
is the switch off?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
I think only time will tell.

Speaker 11 (27:40):
I think if you're in a marriage, got to you
gotta kind of go through it first before you make
such this hard decision, which would be leaving.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Because I mean, you know, maybe he's like if I
just sort of stick around and try not to hurt
her feelings, then that's better than admitting to myself and
to the world that I don't like the new version
of her and I want out, because then that makes.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
So you know, that's that would be My biggest concern
is like are you hanging on like you you love
me or maybe you're in love with me, but like
are you still attracted to me? And if you're not,
how long do we play that game?

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Right?

Speaker 11 (28:15):
But explore I say, explore all options before you make
that decision.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Purchases, Yes, purchase purchases. Caitlin's entertainment report is on the
pressure sitting for Kaylin.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
And take it away all right.

Speaker 11 (28:29):
Lizzo spoke out after her former dancers dropped the fat
shaming allegation from their lawsuit following a judge's finding about
a secret recording and an Instagram reel. Lizzo said the
claims were officially dropped and that the accusers conceded it
had no merit in court. Lizzo insisted there was no
evidence that I fired them because they gained weight, adding

(28:50):
that the dancers were fired for recording her without consent.
She emphasized I have never fired an employee for gaining weight.
She says she has always supported bigger bodies. While call
the moment of relief after suffering in silence, Lizzo confirmed
she is not subtling and will continue to fight the
remaining claim. So good luck with that girl and fred

(29:10):
I know you touched on this earlier, but in case
you missed it. Nick Reiner, the son of filmmaker Rob
Reiner and Michelle Singer Reiner, has been arrested and booked
on suspicion of murdering his parents after they were found
dead with stab wounds in their Los Angeles area home.
Nick is currently being held without bill and according to reports,
Rob Reiner and his son reportedly had a very loud

(29:31):
argument at a holiday party hosted by Conan O'Brien. This
all happened the night before Rob and his wife Michelle
were killed. Sources say that Nick was freaking everyone out
at the party, acting crazy and kept asking if people
were famous, leading Rob and Michelle to.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Leave the party.

Speaker 11 (29:48):
Sadly, the couple was found dead in their Los Angeles
home the following day.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
So the depths of stunned Hollywood.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
Given Rob Reiner's legacy as a celebrated actor and director
behind major films of the eighties and nineties, and Nick
was previously spoken about in the long struggle with drug addiction,
telling People magazine in twenty sixteen that he had been
homeless at times and in rehab since the age of fifteen.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
So such a sad ending to their story twisted Yeah,
May they rest in peace.

Speaker 11 (30:15):
On a lighter note, some good news for Eminem fans
fifty cents he's a possible Eminem collaboration for the soundtrack
of the upcoming Street Fighter movie. Fifty has good reason
to type up the movie, considering he's playing the boxer
ball rog. I'm not into the street Fighter universe. But
I'm here for the movie.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, both you know, tell me about Street Fighting.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
We're gonna find out together.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Ball rock ball rod rhymes.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's what the woman was trying to get her to
purchase for.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
The boosting on Instagram fifty Road.

Speaker 11 (30:50):
I'm gonna get Eminem on deck to make some music
for the movie street Fighter, adding new music is on
the way. The film, which recently dropped a trailer, features
a stack including Jason Mamoa, Noah Centennial or Reveal Pek
and Roman Reigns, and reportedly has Fifty even performing his
own stunts. Okay, fifty, that's your favorite act of Paulina,

(31:12):
but produce, excuse you, but the biggest stunt let me
look get his resume right, But the biggest stunt he
could pull off maybe getting eminem to drop some custom
music for the film. Street Fighter is scheduled to hit
theaters on October sixteenth, twenty twenty six, and I will
be there with my popcorn.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Okay, you know there.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
If you miss anything from our earlier reports or in
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Search for the Fred Show on demand.

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It's the Fred Show, guy. Do you have what it
takes to battle show biz. Shelley in the show Biz
showdown my shell. Oh boy boy, I'm excited, Jason. Are
the questions? Oh no, scared.

Speaker 13 (31:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's talking like five minutes be to your note. You know,
if they're right. I don't know if they're right, they're right?
Oh whatever?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Hey, Stephanie doesn't I don't care. I honestly I don't care.

Speaker 13 (32:11):
You do that?

Speaker 10 (32:13):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Sevan? Good morning? I've just reached the point of the year.
I don't care, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (32:19):
Yeah, I'm there with you, like I.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Deeply care, but I also don't care. Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's a real conundrum for it for a guy. Yeah,
I'm really really struggling over here. Economy, get right, hanging
on for dear life. But Stephanie, six hundred and fifty
bucks is the price. Shelley has won a thousand, one thousand,
ninety five times seventy six losses. That's it, age straight.
I do need a fun fact about you, though, Stephanie.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
Well, I'm heading into a cry.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
I'm a microbiologist.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Oh I am, so.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
I don't know how I'm.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Gonna do about culture, but I'll give it a trock.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
That is fantastic because we're about to talk about Cels.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I am the Mite country. Yeah, it's so funny. Question
threes about Mite Conria.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Oh great, fantastical.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Okay, yes, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Like what exactly do you like what we're going to
do today? What do you do? And like do you
listen to us and feel stupider?

Speaker 10 (33:15):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
What is it?

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Like? You?

Speaker 12 (33:19):
I grew up on you guys.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I'm like so excited me.

Speaker 12 (33:24):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's the nicest compliment you can say, is that you
grew up with this show. That's the finest thing that
you could truly say. It's just like, my god, that's
why I have gray hair, Like it's it's.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
The best thing. You know, Like we all try and last.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
As long as we can in this business without getting fired.
But then it's like, oh my god, now I'm old.
I'm old When people say that, you know, it's like, oh,
you know when I was in high school, now I
have seven grandkids.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I'm like, what do you mean? Are you doing that
in fifteen years?

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Plain that part.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
But let's play the game, Stephanie, and let's seef you
can win this money. Good luck.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Thanks Okay, Yes, Shelley's actually been on the radio for
thirty years. I'd like you to do the math on that.
It's wild. Here we go, Question number one. Travis Kelce's
superstar fiance was spotted in their skybox playing with his
with his niece during the last Kansas City Chiefs game.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Name her, Oh my God, Travis girl.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Travis Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 14 (34:25):
I'm sorry, I thought you were thinking about the brother.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yes, yeah, my girl, you micro biologist. Okay. Moving on.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Ben Affleck was reunited with both of his exes at
his son's concert over the weekend. Name the two exes
that share the same first name three, So.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Jennifer Lopez and Jennifer Brin.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
This Dirty Little Secret band was forced to stop their
show mid to help a fainting fan name them. Another
concert had to be halted over the weekend after a
dancer slid off the stage due to the rain.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Name the artist.

Speaker 12 (35:14):
Two Weekend one, I Don't Know Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And Santa Tell Me became the highest peaking holiday song
released this century on the Billboard Hot one hundred. Who
sings Santa tell Me? Yeah? We just played it so,
which was not on purpose by the way, that's a four.
That's a good score.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Okay, she got a four?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Okay, which is really good? All right? You ready?

Speaker 14 (35:39):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Travis kelcey superstar fiance, was spotted in their skybox playing
with his niece during the last Kansas City Chiefs game.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Name Her.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah. Ben Affleck was reading at it with both of
his exes at his son's concert over the weekend. Name
the two exes that share the same first.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Name, Jennifer Garner and Jennifer Lopez.

Speaker 10 (36:02):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
This Dirty Little Secret band was forced to stop their
show mid song to help a fainting fan.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Name them, Oh Dirty Little Secret, Oh.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Oh no, three, two no, the All American recount hek
you forgot to count. You got four minutes. You have
four minutes.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
To answer and listen to the song in that period
of time.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
I know you're struggle girl.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Another concert had to be halted over the weekend after
a dancer slid off the stage due to the rain.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Name the artist Lady Gaga.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yes and Santa Tell Me became the highest speaking holiday
song released a century on the Billboard Hot one hundred.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Who sing Santa tell Me?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Marian?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
That's a four? That's a tie?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Is this time?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
You're gonna have to come back, but you may have
earned yourself some extra money. Seven hundred bucks will be
the prize the next time we play. But yeah, it's
a tiebreaker the next time we do it.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
All right, okay, I culture you.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
You may have some time to do that. Actually, yeah,
but hang on a second and we will coordinate that. Bellahamine,
We'll schedule it with you. All right, Okay, thank you,
thank you so much for listening to say right there.
All right, Shelly, the next time we play, I don't
know when that's gonna be, but it's seventy will be
here and she will have she will have memorized all

(37:28):
of TMS's website by that, Yeah, exactly. And she's smarter
than all of us. So we're not moving all right.
I have a great table.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
We'll talk to you soon, you too.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Bye, all right, waiting by the phone from the Hall
of Fame. Why did somebody get ghosted? We'll do it
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