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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You've got to Wait.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fred Show is.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
A lot of money show.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
Someone sextually that they heard Waiting for a Start of
Fall at a grocery store and thought, of me, it's
only one of the greatest songs ever recorded.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
But that's my encouragement for you this week. Pick an
era from before you were born and go find a
playlist and listen to the songs, and you might even
like it. You like sixties, you might like motow. I
feel like if you like Metes, then you would like
Jackson five.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, you know, I like it a lot.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I don't know. I just like the Lord just made
me cough. I don't know if that was like, don't
even try this. Don't play this game making comparisons between generations.
You're going to offend somebody or make them angry because
everyone thinks that the music they grew up with is
the best music and everything else sucks.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh yeah, let me think about it.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Don't you feel like you have the most attachment to
the song from your childhood?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, early two thousands. I feel like that's my wheel house, college,
high school. Yeah, it is The Fred Show. Good morning,
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
On the radio on the iHeart app live and anytime
search for the Fred Show on demand. How do you
guys choose who gets to sleep on which side of
the bed? Like, what happens if you get into a
relationship and you both sleep on the same side of
the bed?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
How does one negotiate that?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Like, because I mean, if you were to say to me,
now you have to sleep on the other side of
the bed for.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
The rest of your life. I mean, eventually, I think
I would get used to it, But I mean that
would be a that's a big ask, that's a big
Now you only switch side to the bed you on me?
Just just think my whole life, right if you look
at the bed, I'm on the left side of the bed,
basically my.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Whole life left side. Okay, if you're.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Staring at the bed, I'm on the left side of
the bed. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
In this case, Yeah, but that's not why. I mean,
I guess this is where I've always slept, like always,
And I guess that's why I do the hotel too,
I guess for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, a hotel. So what do you do?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
What do you do if you meet somebody like did
all of you just it just worked? Where the person
who you're with slept on the other side of the
bed immediately.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's like where is the dog?
And then I'll readjust myself, so I don't really have
a side of the beau. She it's her bed right,
to be honest. And then he is.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
He goes bed later than me, so then he tries
to squeeze in wherever he can.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I see. Yeah, so you just sleep wherever there's room.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, because I'm a sucker. Most people would move their dog.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Sometimes it's the left side, sometimes it's the right side.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Sometimes, yeah, I know. Don't trust me.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, no, I think I moved the dog. I moved
the dog.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I think I know. No, Yeah, they're so comfy looking.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Can I think I would? I think I would? I think,
you know.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I say that, But then when I'm at home and
my my mom's dogs get in the bed, they sleep,
and the cats too, and I'm allergic to cats.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
But moves the main coon like that. He's just a
monster of a cat.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
He does ever he was like, he'll and then he'll
find like the crevice, like if your legs are kind
of a part or whatever. He'll sleep in there. And
then you're right no, I don't move. Then, like if
I wake up and discover this, I'm like, I better
not move. He looks very comfortable right there, MOSTI does,
and so and then I know you're right. So I
guess I'm no different. But at least I'm on the
right side of the bed or the left side of

(03:21):
the bed in this case.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
So this is not really a deed debate. That's not
really an issue.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
No, I made Hobby goo wherever the door is because
we've moved twice now, so like wherever the door is.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
If there's danger, you're going first. Yeah, so you need
to maybe by the door. That's how I think.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, Right, so I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure if
there were a killer and the killer showed up, and
the killer we're going to kill, Yeah, I'm pretty sure that.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
The several feet maybe two or three feet, you know,
between you and Hobby. I don't know if that make
much difference in the killing spree it was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
He died a hero because he was by the door,
you know.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
What I'm saying. Well, I don't know that he would
if he's not a hero. If everybody dies. I hate
to say this to.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
You, Wow, plays to go.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
But you just said he would.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Die a hero but I wouldn't because he would.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
But if he's dead, then he can't be a hero
to you, And I guess I guess he could. I
do know. Hey, Chloe, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm younger?

Speaker 8 (04:17):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Whoe?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
How did this work? How did this work? When you
got into a relationship with someone I assume you are
and and you both sleep on the same side of
the bed.

Speaker 9 (04:27):
Yeah, I mean, we compromise in a lot of ways.

Speaker 10 (04:30):
But I was just like, I just feel.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
This is where you need to change, and he.

Speaker 9 (04:35):
Was just like I I guess I will.

Speaker 11 (04:39):
And I was like, okay, sounds.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
Great, so you know it. I gave him a choice
and he made his choice.

Speaker 9 (04:47):
But I mean, the main reason why we sleep where
we sleep now is because I'm like, listen, you need
to be closer to the door, because, like Heaven forbid,
a break in occurs, Like you're the first person to
get got like you need to my alarm system if
I need to like get up and be running, like
I need to hear you first. So really that's one

(05:08):
of my reasons.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
But like it was very simple.

Speaker 9 (05:11):
I was just like listen, I'm not changing in this regard,
so I think you should, And he.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Said, I guess I will, because I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Then it was done.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Chloe. You say you gave him a choice, but you
infected not it was this other place.

Speaker 9 (05:25):
Exactly, like you either sleep here next to me on
this side of the bed, or you don't sleep here
at all.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh well, like I said, is a choice. Yeah, Now
what if he had chosen? Oh, I, so I don't
have to sleep in this room.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Then you're saying I can sleep in a different room
because it might be better because we both like the
same side of the bed. That's that wouldn't have done overwhell.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 9 (05:44):
If he ever came to me and was like, I
think we should sleep in separate rooms, I think I
would be okay with it because.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I would with it too, honestly, Like sometimes we sleep
in the same room, and then sometimes when I had
text Mex before, we don't you know me because I
don't want you to catch me doing anything while I'm
asleep that I didn't know that I did. And there's
a higher percentage of that happening if I eat certain food,
So I maybe in those nights, I sleep in a
different bed, or if you're not feeling well, you sleep

(06:12):
in a different bed because you're sick.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And you're like, ah, you know, I don't want to
deal with this. I don't want my partner to have
to deal with this. So okay, wait a minute. Maybe
that's a whole different conversation. How many of you would
sleep in separate rooms if you could. I don't like
that with the option of going back. No interesting, Chloe.
Look at you, Chloe, you're just changing the changing the
director of the show right now. I like it. Have
a good day, Thank you for calling you. That's a

(06:35):
different conversation. Like, and each person gets.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
An equal sized room in their own bathroom in this dynamic.
I mean, I'm not saying someone has to sleep in
a guest room all the time. Like that's you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like, let's just say hypothetically, like, no one's sacrificing anything.
The beds are equally comfortable. But let's say, like maybe
like I like it very cold where I'm sleeping. I
like it very cold. Some people don't like it that cold.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, we agree.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Those people would be wrong. I totally agree with them,
but wrong people are out there. People are wrong. A
lot of people I see him every day, they call,
appear to you know, they say stupid things, They text
him like you you're wrong, and that's very sad.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
For you, right right, I feel bad if I didn't
say it, then.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
You disagree, and that's a horrible place to the horrible
place to be in life. But but yeah, I mean, like,
let's say so instead of arguing about that, we're living
your life sort of dissatisfied because you know your partner
needs at seventy and you want it sixty six.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Or whatever it is, or or or warmer.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Then you just two separate sleeping environments and you can
still do that, you know, do the things that you
do in the bed together, and then you can just say, okay,
all right, now I'm gonna go to sleep, and then
we don't have these problems.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Then. No, No, there's never a time where you don't
want him to wait, wait, but he's not in the
bed because he's worse all night.

Speaker 12 (07:49):
Right, But I want him there. I would prefer that
he'd be there for sure. Now I do like having
separate like dressing rooms, so like I have a glamor
room and there is the guest room where he can go,
you know. But I think as long as we have
that like where my things aren't being touched all the
time and they can you know, jury and so it

(08:09):
could just be but I think you should sleep in
the bed together.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Okay, so he can sleep in the bed with you,
but don't get anywhere near your jewelry. Yeah, well I've
heard that about exam. Yeah, and your wings took its
weird when he shows up with the.

Speaker 13 (08:25):
Fact that he would be.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Trying to wear rings is something Hey, Brian, Hey Brian,
So you sleep between your partner and the door, and
that's because you're going to save the day if anything happens.

Speaker 14 (08:44):
Okay, not because I want to leave first in case
of an emergency, but if there's an intruder, I feel
like whoever it is is going to have to go
through me before they get to my spouse.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I see. And so you're ready save the day right there.
But it has nothing to do with the fact that
you could make a quicker eggs.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It absolutely not.

Speaker 14 (09:02):
It's just to be the hero and save.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
The day, I see, But it would it's a nice
side effect or a nice side you know, the thing
that you could also be the first out in the
event of an emergency.

Speaker 14 (09:13):
I guess that is true, but I'm thinking of it
more in the sense of, like, even when we're walking
down the sidewalk on the street, you know, I'm always
on the street side. My wife's always on the inside,
closer to the buildings. In case something happens. I feel
the need to constantly be su pertector.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Now, Brian, that's why I don't understand. Okay, now, I
will do it now, except I'm definitely my left ear.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
So it does depend on the side of the street
that we're like, the direction in the side of the street,
because if you want me to hear what you're saying,
which most I found most women enjoyed me hearing them
and acknowledging what they're saying to me, then I have
to be on one side of you. So sometimes it
doesn't work that way, Like if we're walking, you know
what I'm saying, Like if we're walking in a direction
where I would be on the inside and you'd be

(09:57):
on the outside, but you're on my left side, well
then you know then.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Why I'm talking to you.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I'm like, I'm protecting you, and that's what I say
to him, I'm protecting you. But then if a car
hits us, Brian, then all we're going to become is
a heavy projectile to then in pale the person next
to us.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
So I don't understand the logic.

Speaker 14 (10:18):
The logic is that the husband always dies first.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Bread.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Sorry, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
So if a car hits me, it's a very small
likelihood that I'm going to physically stop the car from
hitting you.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm probably not gonna happen. I'm just saying. I'm just
saying I might wind up being the reason that you're dead.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Oh no, no, thank you hit you first?

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Would honest question, would you want to me first?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know you're saying, like, well, it hits me, it's
probably gonna kill you anyway, so it should definitely hit
you first.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
I'm just saying the logic doesn't make sense, Like he's
going to protect me from a car, you know, the
runs off the road.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Logic, that's not going to happen. Like I'm not I'm
not a brick walls. The car is not going to
run into hobby and then just stop.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You would push me? What if you see it.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Coming and then you know the opportunity to push great
now now I assaulted you.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Great, this is great now anyway.

Speaker 12 (11:17):
And a puddle, like if a car drives in a puddle,
the water will.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Hate you, not it will just hit me, and I
don't know the puddle thing is yeah, Bailey, Hi Bailey, Hey,
you and your boyfriend sleep in different rooms.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I like this.

Speaker 15 (11:33):
Yes, it's kind of funny how it started. I recently
just moved in with him, and you know, he had
his set of furniture. I had my set of furniture,
and when I moved in, my bedroom set just went
into the guest bedroom. And like for me, it was
just like an easier transition, like he's.

Speaker 10 (11:52):
Kind of my things things.

Speaker 15 (11:54):
But like we don't do it every night. If there
is nights like I'm restless and want to sleep in
that room, I go there.

Speaker 11 (12:01):
And vice versa.

Speaker 15 (12:02):
So it actually works out really nicely for us. And
I'm kind of a person who likes to sleep with
the room breathing hole with the fans blowing some nice
It works out for us.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
There you go, thank you, Bailey. See it works. Let's
say the great thank you. This is what I'm going
to do. I have a nice day. I'm glad you
called me goodbye. See it works fine.

Speaker 13 (12:22):
So we're really rearranging our entire like sleep placement over
like weather, like at the chance that someone may break
in and try to kill That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
It's not I'm sorry, but like, if you're standing over
my bed, well and first of all, good luck waking me.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yep, what are you really going to do?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Exactly?

Speaker 16 (12:40):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
This is one time somebody things are dumb. Everyone thinks
they're heroes.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like if someone walks in your roope, what are you
going to do? A strap?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's right, you're actually okay, well let me let me
I'm getting the strap now.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Takes every night where.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
You sleep, every night, just the small possibility that someone
may come in the room.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
But if they break it and stand over the bed,
like they've got both of us right, if they want
to kill us, we're dead. Harmony, the door is not
going to accomplish it. It just isn't the same way. To me,
being closer to the curb is.

Speaker 13 (13:16):
Not a I disagree with you there, but I agree with.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You like I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Why do you disagree with what?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
What is me walking closer to the road actually accomplishing
a safety standpoint.

Speaker 13 (13:27):
Are you open to like, are you open to maybe
seeing it our way?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Are you what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I'm listening?

Speaker 13 (13:37):
Okay, okay, because I I know sometimes like if I
don't want my mind to be changed, I'll be like, no,
I'm closed off from that, but no, listen. So like
I said, you could push me out of the way,
You definitely could soften the blow for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
And the puddle thing. I think it's just like a
nice sign of chivalry. But if my date is deaf.

Speaker 13 (13:56):
In one year, I'm totally fine with him switching sides.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I'm fine to be on the side where yes, I
don't have to listen, it's fine, but I'm saving your life.

Speaker 13 (14:03):
Like also, like if I'm standing behind you, you can't even
see me behind you, Like you're a big dude, You're
definitely protecting me.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I'm definitely two hundred and forty pounds into you at
that point, I become a projectile.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
But then tapples you over.

Speaker 13 (14:16):
But you get crushed by the car and.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You get crushed by me.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oh baby, if the exact trajectory sends you into her,
or it could send you forward or back, but it's
definitely gonna go right.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Next to.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The car, drive sideways.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
If a car's going behind.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You, it's gonna hit you, and you're gonna go four wheel.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Jason, I'm not that a car is ten feet wide.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Ain't a whiteboard.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm sorry, you guys are not right about this. If
a car, if we are looking next to each other
and a car hits us, it's hitting both of us.
That's just the bottom.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's not even a chance that you might be able
to protect us. Like there's not even a.

Speaker 13 (14:51):
Slight chancetop the car.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I think what I'm saying to you is whatever makes
you guys feel better, is it's a ridiculous argument.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's ridiculus.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
The same the same way to being close to the
door is ridiculous, Like if we're in a if we're
in a hotel room, that's what twenty twenty by twenty
or thirty by thirty, wherever a hotel room is, and
a guy comes in and stands over us. My being
closer proximity the door is going to do nothing. But
I'm sorry, I'm not going to save your life. If
a car.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Hits us and we're walking next to each other, I'm sorry, Hey, Melissa.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Him Melissa, Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 9 (15:26):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
So you are a very courteous person. You would just
switch sides of the bed no matter what. Absolutely, if
you're moving in with someone, you're gonna just to them.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
But if they're moving in, you rule your house.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Which I okay, interesting Melissa, So it would depends then
who who moves into who's house correctly.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, But if you guys are buying a house.

Speaker 10 (15:48):
Together, and you guys have already lived together, then going
into a room, however you start it up, it's gonna
be wid you picked before here.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
I see.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
So if we move into a news space together, then
we had we each have like an equal vote. But
if you come to my house and you get to
know whatever side, I'm not correct?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Okay, perfect, thank you, Melissa. Problem solved. Yeah, you guys
are you guys are silly.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
You're not gonna stop the right. That is so crazy.
That is crazy.

Speaker 12 (16:14):
You're not even gonna put your hand out to try
to grab the car before he's see.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
This is what I'm talking about. Like, listen to yourself
right now. It is the Fread Show.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Good morning, thanks for having us on the radio on
the iHeart app Live and anytime. Search for the Fred
Show on demand, can call him text a fread show
anytime eight five five five one three five. I have
no idea who made this this list, and if these people,
I assume that they were women, get to speak for
all of womankind.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
So I want, like the real list.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I'll tell you what was on theirs, but I want
the real Fred Show list from you guys.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Eight five five five three five. But this this article
is titled so of course he got my attention.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Fifteen things that men are required by law to know
about women. Fifteen Well, I think they took some liberties there,
but fifteen things that men are required by laws to
know about women.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So now do you want to hear what they think?
This is?

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Like?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
These are the things that men, all men it must
know about women? I want to know.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Should I tell you the list to see what you
think of it? But what I really want to know
is what should be on this I think there are
more practical things that should be on this list? Okay
number one? And by we I mean women, So I'm
speaking from a female perspective.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Now, which is which is I often? Come round? Yeah?
I am, It's all that's rightness.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Okay, So these are the things that men are required
to know about women. Number One, we cry, we as
women cry for no reason sometimes.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Okay, okay, now that's the reason always. You've never found
yourself just crying, Like why am I crying?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
It might be a dumb reason, but it's the reason, right.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
What was the dumbest thing you can remember crying for lately?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Lately? Hmmm? TikTok? TikTok was a dumb reason?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Lord?

Speaker 12 (18:10):
One day, I just looked at my dog and I
was just like, man, I love you, bro, I want
to like lex man.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
This is off of you, man, yes, right now, Okay.
The dumbest reason you cried lately?

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Oh well, Hobby decided that he didn't want to put
like a larger amount of pasta on my plate.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I got really offended because.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
I was like, I'm hungry and he like didn't give
me as much as he gave himself.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I won't eat it all, but I want the same
amount as he wants. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Was there some left over or did he just take?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh no, we had a lot left over three days,
so you were like, get me more?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He said, no, Well, things I know, but he was.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
Just confused because you're not going to eat all this,
which is true. He does eat more than I do,
but I wanted to match his plate.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So you start crying.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I was very offunded.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I don't I don't know if I'm worthy of I
don't know if I'm of the right of having that in.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
My home, Like, no, I don't want that in my home.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
I'm not saying that you're wrong to express your emotion
however you want.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I know.

Speaker 13 (19:12):
Oh no, it's just the literal, Like you're so literal
and I am pragmatic. I just I don't know if
we're gonna ever see eye to eye on the emotions
thing in fairness.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Though in all fairness, we can cut the bs for
one second, like I love you. But if a woman
is crying because I didn't put one extra thing of pasta,
like that's not I know, that's not really defensive, Like
we're not talking about logic, but you're admitting what I'm saying,
Like that's that's not what we're you going. Oh no,

(19:45):
Like that's a ridiculous reason to cry. There's nothing I
can do about that, because I could. You're crying, and
I go one more scoop. Here you go, and you're
still crying. Like problem solved. Why are we crying? Well,
he forgot to make the garlic bread. He forgot to
make it.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
To cry about that, But like my whole thing about
logic versus reason or whatever, that's that's not that's that's
there is nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
But was it a certain time of the month.

Speaker 13 (20:08):
Did she have a hard day taking care of the baby?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like?

Speaker 13 (20:10):
That's what I'm saying, is like there's lay layers to
the ish.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I know, this is my every day at home.

Speaker 12 (20:17):
Guys, I don't want to see the I wouldn't want
this in my house either.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Here every day. I don't know, man, like I know
the dog, I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
But here's the problem.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
The problem is like if I see a woman crying,
or anybody really, but if I see a woman crying, like,
I'm going to do everything I can to fix it.
But like, if it's something like that where it's that
easy to fix it.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
And that.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Inadverten is not intentional and whatever, it's like, I don't
know what to do with that. And if I were,
if I were doing that all the time, I would
just be like I don't know what to do with this,
like like pedalize, like cry like expressive emotions if I
screw something up so that I know that I can
fix it. But like if you cry about a lot
of stuff, then I don't know what you're really crying
about and what you know what I mean, like, I

(21:06):
don't know what I'm supposed to prioritize here an this
coop of pasta or like you know, I don't know,
not forgetting our anniversary something way worse. I guess that's
what I'm saying. It would be very confusing to me.
I'm not criticizing it. I would just be like is
this are you being hormonal?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Or are you being this? Or did I really upset you?
Which one is it? I don't know what do I do.
I can't ask questions, so I can't ask questions. I
can't be frustrated.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 12 (21:37):
What does he do in that situation? Like what does
he do?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well? First? The first things? First he'll say what's wrong,
like that's where we started.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
I would just say a questions where I would start, yes,
and then.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
That does leave the door open for communication.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
So yes, it's it was a hard day with the
baby or this happened, you know earlier today, I got
this email and I'm so upset, and yes, emails take
me sad sometimes, so like.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I know the time, so I'm just like, you know,
I want to just vent.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
But then, you know, when I'm not logical, I have
to hear about how it doesn't make sense to him
and he can't really wrap his head around it.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
And then I think there's a circle of that.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
No, but here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Here's what I appreciate about that scenario is that if
I don't give you enough pasta and you start crying,
but then you tell me that it's because of something else,
I can live with that, because I I this, men
are no different like I will go if something happens
here that that upsets me or somewhere else. I will
probably go into my day with an attitude, and I

(22:32):
find myself having to check myself. And then if I
do show somebody some attitude I didn't mean to, I
try and go back and tell the hey, my bad,
I'm you know, that wasn't done you that was I mean,
so at least there's some communication. But do you always
do that or do you sometimes cry? And then like,
don't tell him why, and then he thinks it's about him.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I'm sure that's happening, because that's the frustrating.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Part is what I think you're I think you're emoting
about me, and I don't know how to fix it
because I didn't necessarily do it.

Speaker 13 (22:59):
Yeah, think that's another big issue between men and women. Traditionally,
if you're in that sort of relationship is you guys
always want to fix it, and sometimes we don't.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Want you to fix it. We just want to talk
and be heard.

Speaker 13 (23:10):
So like my boyfriend goes into like fix it mode
and we're rushing around and we're doing things, and I
don't want you to fix it.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I just want you to hear me.

Speaker 13 (23:17):
And I think that that's like the fundamental difference.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
So if you ask, like do you want me to
help you solve or do you want someone to listen?
That's always really hard.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I guess just those differentiating factors will be helpful for
us to know on the other side, like, hey, is
this about me? Is this about something else? I did
this thing that made you cry? But are you really
crying about me? And do you want me to do
anything about it? Because if I don't ask questions and
I don't do anything about it. Then I'm insensitive. But
I so it's a very difficult.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Spot, it is.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I mean we've only.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Gone through number one. Okay, number two we also like
to vent.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Okay, fine, number three. We have fears you might see
as irrational. Okay, but I don't think that's a gender thing.
I have fears that people think are irrational. So yeah, okay,
we love it when you call us. These are fifteen
things that men are required by law to know about women.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
See, I don't think that's true.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Don't ever call me. Oh no, I always call you.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Okay, there's okay, Well, you're fine.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
We prefer that you let us know if you're not
into us. I mean the again, that'd be nice to
know in any circumstance. I don't know yet. You might
cry in vent, but but you want me to call
you and tell you, would you prefer.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm not into you.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
We don't require grand gestures, but they're nice. See now,
that's another one. I've dated people who do want the
grand gesture. I've dated people who don't. I've dated people
who want to be doted on. I've dated people who
don't like it's case by case. I don't know if
these are all universal. We don't define a relationship by
the size.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Of a ring, No, don't. It's not universal.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm wondering at this time.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
So it says we, But then I'm saying, you know,
I don't represent you guys at all. We love babies,
but that doesn't mean that we want to rush into things.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, okay, not women like love are obsessed with
babies like that.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
True.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, I guess I don't assume that every woman wants
a baby. But when I go out, when I'm on
my second day with you and you say, so, where's
this headed because I want to have a kid like
that typically indicates to me that you would like to
have a baby. Because you just said that, we aren't
comparing you to our exes, Yeah you are, that's sure life,
And I think that happens all the time. I think

(25:44):
people compared the people they're with the their exes all
the time. But except that's that's a that's a confirmation
because you would just deny it. So some one says that,
I'm like, well, you would just deny it if it
weren't true. We tend to overanalyze. I'll admit, okay, we

(26:04):
prefer direct communication. I do like that, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, but okay, but then the direct communication means that
I'm asking questions about things that I've just been told
by you guys not to ask questions about.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
So I'm trying to communicate. But now I'm annoying because
I'm asking why you're crying. But I just gave you
more posita polina, let'stop crying.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's why I don't mess with y'all.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Thank you for at least thank you for it, Maggiet.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
It could be a little confusing because these are contra
even this list contradicts itself.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
So we appreciate courtesy.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Okay, we still want to feel feminine, beautiful and safe. Yes, okay,
we hold you in high regard. Not always. No, I
don't think so, I mean like anybody else. I don't
think everyone's out, you know. I think that's that's situational
and we can still tire our shoes and do any
number of other complex things. I don't know who is

(27:03):
if you're if you're someone questioning that, then your misogynists,
your terrible human being. Of course, women can do many, many, many, things.
You do it every day, so I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh that was for me, like I tie my shoes.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
No, I'm I'm Paulina, just welcome to the show. I'm
reading you a list of We've been talking about the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
But last time.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
But I didn't know this is this is.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
The same perspective as the other. I don't like it either,
But I mean says we can still tie our shoes
and do any number of other complex, herculean things.

Speaker 13 (27:36):
I said complex, Like I'm concerned is that complex to do?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
I mean, you guys can create life and extract it
from your body.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And I don't know why anyone's not impressed by that. Yeah,
maybe not in that moment. You can't tie your shoes.
But I don't understand this list. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Somebody said, how many tampons will you use? You man
needs to know that?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Come on, No, I don't know why I wouldn't need to.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, I to grown folks business.

Speaker 13 (28:02):
I would like, I'll tell you what flavor I want
if I need to send you to get some.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
But no, I'm kidding. You don't need to know how many.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I don't know individual. I think it's nice if
a guy has some perspective on that, but like, I don't.
I don't know why I need to know the ins
and outside because I don't know what that offers to
you at all. But at least you can still tell
your shoes some days.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
That's a good thing, you know, not every day.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I don't know. I know about this list, right?

Speaker 16 (28:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I mean the list is just is just I would.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Jason, Okay, well, then give me one. Okay, I'm gonna
push the button. But you guys, each give me one
that wasn't on the list that you really want to know, Like, like,
what is something that a man needs to know about
you by law that wasn't on this list? So you
can't come up with anything else. But you don't like
this list, I don't list at all.

Speaker 12 (28:53):
Don't you say that I'm a princess and I deserve
whatever I want? I want Queen, Yes, and I should
be treated such at all time.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
And if I'm crying is something you did?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Thank you?

Speaker 14 (29:06):
Friend? Show more Fresh Show next.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
The Fresh Show is on.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean, I'm gonna sound like a like a jerk,
but I feel like the people who get super hype
about the high school reunion are the people who peaked
in high school?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Because like, I don't know, I don't get it. I'm
not really hyped about anything that happened twenty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I miss it so much.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
High school, Yes, I see, I don't it's not going
so much better. I left that place that got better, better, better,
better better? Really did you peak in he you didn't
look at you. You're here on this show.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You got all these businesses, and you've got three towels
for the business.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You got your you're almost a realtor, spray tam.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
What don't I do?

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Philanthropist, power suit wearing TV on on Lady. So I
would not say you piked in high You had a
beautiful daughter and a husband.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
I feel like that was just a time was had
and people say.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh, I went to college it had like way more fun.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
And listen, I didn't have that college experience. It wasn't
necessarily fun. It just was what it was, if that
makes any sense. Yeahig school wasn't bad.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
I just I was in no hurry to like go
stand in a room with a bunch of people that
I hadn't talked to in a very long time, Like
what are we going to talk about?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's very awkward. It can be I can see that.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
And people were really offended that I wasn't into the
I didn't go. I mean, and I don't think they
were offended because I wasn't there. They were just offended.
There were people that weren't as excited about it. I mean,
we had that girl from high school on the show,
and she was not I haven't spoken with her, said
I don't she a mad at me.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I didn't go ever, been left waiting by the phone.
It's the Fred Show. Hey, my good morning, welcome to
the show. How are you hey? Good morning? Okay, Hey,
you sounded distraught.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I mean people call in here sometimes were waiting and
they're like all up eating stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Is like you guy ghosted man. I was so happy
about but Mike didn't sound that happy. What happened with
this woman, Becky.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
I want to hear about how you met, about any
dates you've been on, and then kind of where things
stand now.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Yeah, I mean I thought it went well and I.

Speaker 14 (31:13):
Feel like I have a good read on this kind
of stuff, you know I have, But went on to
two dates and met at a bar.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
I figured out I went to the same uh college,
and you know.

Speaker 14 (31:25):
WHI chatted it up, went out, I got some drinks
in this mes Cow place.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Then I met her for dinner a couple of nights later, and.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
They even went back to their place.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Okay, And and then what happened then like TG, But
what happened then like good stuff, all the good stuff,
some of the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Would say, all the good stuff. But uh, And I
feel like I did a pretty decent job, if you do,
as far as I'm sert, I did a great job.
It was a great effort for me.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
A couple of like weird moments.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
There's a couple of weird moments where I felt like
there was a reset.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But you know, okay, But overall, you meant in the wild.
So that's a good start.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
So you saw each other in person, you were able
to gauge chemistry, you have some stuff in common. You
went on two dates. These are all usually good signs
you're hooked up. This is all usually good stuff. Except
you have not heard from this woman, Becky since the
second date.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Correct, Okay, and you want to know why? Of course?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
And I would too, So here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna call Becky. You'll be on the phone. We're
gonna ask these questions.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
At some point.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
You're welcome to jump in after we get you some info.
And the hope, as always is that we can set
you up on I guess the third date in this
case and pay for it.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Sound good, Yeah, yeah, sure, that sounds great.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Do anything like shut up throughout the whole time you
guys are chatting or like something.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Let me just jump in at some point if you
want to. But we'll get there. We'll get there.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Okay, Let's play a song and chop and we'll come back.
All right, Let's see what happens next. Part two, Avoiding
by the Phone after this song on The Fred Show.
Good morning, It's the Fred Show. Part two of Waiting
by the Phone. Hey, Mike, welcome back, Mike. Let's call
out Becky. You guys you met out, you went on
two dates. The dates went really really well. You haven't

(33:15):
heard from her since the second date, and you.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Want to know why?

Speaker 10 (33:18):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Sure, I mean that's what we're doing, right you called us? Okay,
all right, Mike, let's just I got to talk to Becky. Now,
so just good luck.

Speaker 14 (33:43):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Hi is this Becky, Hey, Becky, good morning. My name
is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning
radio Show. I have to tell you the whole crew
is here and we are on the radio right now,
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Can which after for just a second. Oh my god? Yeah, well,
thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
We appreciate that we're call on behalf of a guy
that we just met, a fascinating young man named Mike.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I guess you went out with Mike. You met him out?
He was at the same college a couple of dates.
You remember this guy? I hope, Oh yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Okay, Well, he reached out to us and he told
us that, you know, kind of how you met and
about going to the same college and a couple of
dates that he thought went well. But he says he
hasn't heard from you since the second date, and he
feels like you're ghosting him. I mean, is that what's
going on back here? Are you ghosting him? And if so, why?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, And Mike was very nice.

Speaker 17 (34:34):
I just I'm not I don't think I'm really interested
in seeing him again.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
So he's a nice guy that you went on two
dates with and you met in the wild, which is
a big deal. I think that makes a difference because again,
you know, you kind of got to you saw what
he looked like, he had a vibe for the chemistry,
He had a kind of a pre date conversation. So
I think there's a little more, you know, a higher
chance of things going well. But why isn't it going
to work. If he's a nice guy and there's all that,

(34:58):
then then why don't we want to go out with anymore?

Speaker 13 (35:02):
Okay, you really want me to say yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
We want you to say yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Okay, Well I was.

Speaker 17 (35:10):
I was very excited to meet him. It is really
rare to meet somebody in the wild like that. And
I had a really nice time on our dates. Basically
on our second date, we went back to my place
and just some things happened, some things led to see things,
and well, okay.

Speaker 11 (35:33):
He he.

Speaker 17 (35:37):
Waxed from like eyebrows to the tips of his toes
like bald as a newborn baby.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Seal.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Every everywhere, like every like every.

Speaker 17 (35:51):
Not just hardwood floors, like armpits, arms, fingers, toes.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Legs, fingers, toes. We're waxing toes.

Speaker 10 (36:01):
Hey you your toes?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You've never watched your toes? No? Oh my good? And
it's once we flipped up season.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I guess I don't know. I got Harry likes to
go with my hairy toes.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Okay, So this dude made a concerted effort to make
sure that like everything was gone, and.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I mean, you have to make an appointment for that. You
got to get me.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
You got to contort yourself. I mean, there's a lot
going on there. I can't even imagine the pain and
the expense. And I've heard of people maxing, you know,
certain things, but not everything.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Let me bring you yeah, yeah, no, go ahead, go ahead,
no please, Well, you know, I appreciate the certain things,
right or like a little bit of like.

Speaker 17 (36:41):
Trimming or some sort of uh huh manly effort to
be tidy. But this was something else I've never I
it's a lot of my girlfriends.

Speaker 16 (36:50):
Aren't that.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Right, not that conscious about it? Well, I mean Paulina
is clearly. But let's bring my kid. I forgot to
mention them. Mike here, I'm very forgetful. Mike had to
tell huh, had to tell all.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Right, well, yeah, for the most part. Sure, yeah, but
you know, my eyebrows.

Speaker 15 (37:09):
I don't wax my eyebrows, okay, like they just never
grew in that well.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Okay, well, and you don't wax the hair on the
top of your head. It sounds like so, but everything else.

Speaker 14 (37:18):
I mean yeah, yeah, I mean, is that.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Like a monthly appointment, a weekly thing, like how often
do you have to attend to that?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'm usually every couple of months.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Huh okay, and you just that's just sort of you
feel like that's I don't know, you look better, you
feel better when you do that. I mean, I'm not
judging it seems aggressive, but I mean.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Hey, I mean yeah, there's an element of like, you know,
i'd got you know, look a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
But there's also I have this weird, you know, kind
of unique theory about it, where like too much like
hair on your body, like.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know, it attracts like germs, like you get sick easier.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
What I don't know about that. We'll have to look
into that scientifically.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
But no, your hair has a purpose on your body.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Actually, yeah, you're right, it's supposed to be. Yeah, most
doctors would tell you that what the hair is supposed
to be there and that we have decided as a
convention to remove it in some cases. But so Becky,
for you, this was what it was, just like it
was just a little off putting.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Are you looking?

Speaker 4 (38:16):
You're looking for someone like you're into Some people are
into the hair. They're into like you know, Matt that
they think that that's mask youline. I don't know if
that's right or wrong, but that's just is that kind
of what where you're at.

Speaker 17 (38:27):
Yeah, I'm embarrassed because I don't I don't want to
hurt his feelings.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
But yeah, it was a lot. It was.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
It made me self conscious that like am I going
to be am?

Speaker 10 (38:38):
I not smooth enough for you?

Speaker 17 (38:39):
I made an effort, but oh my god, him, you.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Know, he knows the person and y'all could just you know,
baved in wax and whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
God, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 12 (38:50):
Torn because I feel like we're giving him a hard time,
like we what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
What you want to be clean?

Speaker 12 (38:55):
He wanted to be smooth, you know, like you think
that should be a deal breaker.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It was so it was so smooth, it was like infantile.

Speaker 17 (39:05):
It was like it was like if you've ever like
overexfoliated your skin, and it's like off puttingly smooth.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
We maybe.

Speaker 14 (39:13):
I got a guy that's good.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
I'm gonna I'm not going to offer up the guy
that's not going to do a great job.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
But he does.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Does he knew that it was date night, and so
maybe he just went to the guy, you know, in
anticipation of the date night.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
All right, but.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I'm not convinced that Big Tim came home head to.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Toe vig Tim came home and Jason was his guy.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, Apparently Jason's voluntary to be the guy and she
runs off the institutions school.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
To do this.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Okay, Look, that's his choice. He feels good about it,
that's what he wants to do. Becky, you're saying that
you weren't attracted to it. You thought it was I
don't know, it was abnormal for you.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
You went in with exactly.

Speaker 15 (40:01):
I've never met a straight man do that in my.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Life, and so.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
It's it's a pass for me.

Speaker 17 (40:07):
But I know that somebody is gonna appreciate all of
that uffart.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Okay, all right, Hey, Mike, look you do you you
know they call you smooth on the streets.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, swim.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Dude his his time.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
He saved some seconds minutes off the time. The guy
can swim so fast like lightning. All right, look, I
don't know, Mike, she's not into it. It can't make
her be into it. I'm sure someone will appreciate this,
and and I wish you both the best of luck.
I don't even have to, I assume, just to be sure.
No second date, Becky.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Or third I mean, would you ever consider not being
so hair with me?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
So now all of a sudden, you'll grow your Wait
a minute, you're so Wait a minute, now you're Mike.
I'll just grow it out right.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
What about the appointment with the guy you love? The
guy he's.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Gonna go out of business, he'll do.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Hey, man, if the guy thought Becky, he would understand.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Oh okay, you know what, I don't know. I'm gonna
let you two work this out, because this is I
don't know if you If you'll want to talk, then
you'll talk. But we did our part here, and if
you decide to go out, let me know. I send
you some Chili's gift cards or something I don't know,
or maybe European wax I don't know. I know, but
they're not a sponsor, but they should be now, I
guess guys. Thank you, best of luck to both of you.

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It is the Fred Show.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Good morning, Thanks for having us on the radio, on
the iHeart app live and anytime search for The Fred
Show on demand. So how would you feel about this?
Eight five five five nine one one three five. A
groom to be recently shared his dilemma on Reddit, which
is where I get a lot of these. I must
I must give credit where credit is due. I don't
know it. I know some a holes, but I don't
know enough to be able to do I know some

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immoral people, but I don't know enough to do morality
Monday on a Tuesday every week unless I did a
lot of research.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
So I don't know why I could do it.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Just all your friends every week?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
You just yes, which one of you just wanted to
be immoral? Evans?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
And yeah, So this happened to somebody though it didn't really,
So here's this is the gist of it. A dude's
fiance plans to wear her late husband's wedding ring on
a chain around her neck during the wedding ceremony to
the new guy. So her husband is dead, Okay, and

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she's going to she wants.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
To wear the wedding ring.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
I guess his wedding ring that from when they were
married before he died around her neck when she marries
another guy, the next guy Okay, She says it's a
quiet tribute to the guy she once loved, who passed
away in a tragic car actualent five years ago. She
believes the law shaped who she is today and wants
to carry that part of her past into the nude chapter.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
But I fiance is not feeling great about him.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
He says it makes him feel like he's sharing the
most important day of his life with someone who isn't there,
and and like he's somehow second place. And people on
the forum are torn. Some stood with the groom, saying
the wedding should be about the new relationship, not the
old one. Other suggested a compromise, like a symbolic gesture
instead of wearing the ring. I would if I'm being

(43:25):
one hundred percent transparent, if I'm keeping it on on
the reel, one hundred percent on the one, if I'm
being one hundred with you, okay, please, I'm gonna be
one hundred with you, as opposed to the ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I usually am, I'm gonna be one hundred. I wouldn't
like you. I wouldn't like him. I wouldn't like it.
You wouldn't either.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
No, I would not.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Okay, good because you're like, yeah, I know, I know, Fred,
I know Fred, you weak, little weak little nugget.

Speaker 16 (43:52):
No.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Can you imagine if Hobby in Vegas at the wedding
had a ring around his neck of a that hecame
to another woman was dead?

Speaker 1 (44:01):
See, okay, I have compassion, You would not. No, I'd upset.
I'd be bothered for sure. But like, it's sad if
that person tragically died. I mean that's awful.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Nobody's saying that's that sad or awful? But like, yeah,
why are we I mean you're marrying me now? Like
can this day be about us?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Why are we still reflecting on this person? I'm sorry
this person died. I'm sorry this person is not in
your life anymore. But the feeling that it would give
me is And it's pretty clear. If that dude weren't dead,
I wouldn't be standing here. You never would have chosen me.
This wouldn't even obviously, this wouldn't even be happy, true, yes,
I know that would I don't think to be reminded

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of that.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
I don't need to be reminded of the person that
I'm marrying now and committing to the rest of my
life with. Would probably rather be with someone else if
they weren't dead.

Speaker 13 (44:49):
Yeah, it takes a special kind of person to be
with a widow. I don't think everyone can do it.
But I'm in a similar situation. Actually, one of the
bachelorettes I have coming up, her previous boyfriend passed away
and it was tragic, and his mom wants to pay
for something.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
On her bachelorette for a new guy.

Speaker 13 (45:05):
She's getting married to a new guy, and her mom,
her former boyfriend's mom, wants to pay for something for us.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Like a table or a night when we go out.

Speaker 13 (45:12):
Yeah, and but some of my friends, which I don't
think it was their place to say or like no,
completely unacceptable, like that's you shouldn't be doing that, Like
your fiance is going to be upset, and I, I
don't know, I thought that that was kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of interesting, Like I'm gonna pay
for you guys to go ahead and get hammered.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah, for the wedding, the betchelor, the wedding. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (45:34):
But she, like I guess, feels like this is the
closest she's going to get to, Like I don't know,
her son getting married, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
She's like happy for her. She still talks to her.
So it is. But it is interesting, that's nice, it's something.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
It isn't even marrying a widow, like, uh, it's not
even it's even so much that it's it's okay, I'm
marrying a widow. So I'm already aware that you were
fully in love with another guy. I actually just happened
to a family member of mine, and I've never discussed
it with her. I've discussed it with her family though,
And this dude, sadly, we're on a business trip. The

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company had private jets. There were two private jets. Everybody
piled in one or the other. There was no rhyme
or reason one made it the other one didn't, and
so there was I don't know the inside of their relationship,
but from what I understand, they were relatively newly married,
like everything was fine, you know, and then he's gone, right,
So she moved on married another guy, had kids with him,
everything's great, and I wonder, like I wonder, does that

(46:27):
guy ever lay up at night and be like, man,
you know, if that dude hadn't tragically died, like I
wouldn't even be here, I wouldn't have my kids, I
wouldn't have any of this. Like maybe I wouldn't had
it with somebody else. But like that, I'm admitting that's
an insecurity. But that would get to me, I think.
But but it's that that's life. But now I got it.
Now you've got to have like something tangible with you

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at the wedding to me sure resemble him.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
Like, guys, we're moving on like right at the wedding.

Speaker 7 (46:55):
Probably not see if Hobby did that, we wouldn't beat
the little white wedding chapel. I think would be honestly
in therapy to work through that because it's like, why
would you want to include that on your special day?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Are you really.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Ready to do this? If we're still reflecting on.

Speaker 13 (47:07):
The best have anything from their previous you know, marriage
or like a photo or anything.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I mean, and how it exists, Like we could put
them away.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
I'm not saying I don't want them, you know, like
plastered on the living room wall when you walk in.
Probably not, but I would still understand that this happened.
Like you said, it's a part of his history, right,
I mean she didn't do anything to me. I mean
she passed away, right, Theoretically, in this theory, we're doing
like she passed away, and I don't want him to
forget her. But on our special day, probably not.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
This is today is about us because you're loving a
not complete person.

Speaker 13 (47:38):
I feel like at that point, like a part of
their heart.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Will always be with the spouse that they thought they
were going to spend the rest of their life with.
And that's totally fair.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
But like you know, on our special day, at least
you know it's my wedding too, right, because it's a
two people event, it's you know, multiple.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
It could be correct, but my mind.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Into here me.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Two of us, right.

Speaker 13 (48:04):
That's why I'm saying I don't think everyone can.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Handle that situation. I really don't think that just my opinion.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I mean, what, Jason, you're over here with this look
on your face of disgust, like honestly, like okay, so
so Mike the mechanic wants to marry you, and he's like, hey,
but this dude I hooked up with on grinder a
while ago, like I need I need to make sure
that I he left his chain.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
In my house.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
It's a little different, but for multiple years.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Okay, But honestly, though, do you want a person who
is who is essentially you're replacing them? I mean, okay, okay,
imagine this, imagine imagine.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Okay, you're my beloved co worker. Right, you're my beloved
co worker. God forbidden.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
I hate this example, but God forbid you decide. I'm
going to I'm I'm going to move on. I'm going
to go and be Britney Spears's manager. And everyone's happy,
well sort of happy for you.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, I mean, like it's.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
A little late in the game for that, but you know, still, okay,
so you can to be Britney Speace's manager.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
We're also happy for you.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
We're clapping or whatever, and you know, it's it's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
It's a wonderful, like you know, here's to the goodfellow. Whatever.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Okay, so then we have to replace you. Sadly, it's
just terrible. But we have a picture of you right
there in your chair that stares at the new person
every single day, and it says, we miss so we
miss you so much, Jason Brown, you know, to the
greatest person to ever sit in this chair, Jason Brown,
you know, and the new person has to sit there
and stare at that all morning.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I mean, it might be true, but what I'm saying
is nobody wants that daily reminder that like there was
somebody greater than me here.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
That's completely it is not it is not at all.
It is completely different. Someone I'm in love with has away.
I didn't die, but you're not here anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Even crazier people.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I've somehow found them, But that's so different. There's nothing
like I can't even imagine the pain of losing a spouse.
So I look at I as I have not been
through that. There, I cannot say one single thing about
how you deal with it. That pain is like I can.

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That's to even think about how that makes you feel.
Like you can feel all you want, but I would
have to be fine with It's not like it's competition.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
He's gone, yeah, but don't don't my feelings about this matter.
I'm marrying you now. It's about me now, It's not
about that person. I'm so sorry for what happened, but
I feel like if we're honoring your ex husband at
your new wedding, I mean, listen to that sentence that
doesn't say.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Anything about the grief and how she deals with it.
I'm sorry, absolutely my opinion. You didn't, you know, go
through that. She did, So whatever she needs to do
to feel better, that's what she gets to do.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, your wedding. At your wedding, you're going to honor
another chase if someone died that they were married to.
Who am I to say?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
You don't get too honestly the new husband.

Speaker 12 (51:10):
Goodness, Oh, because I was trying to figure out whose
side I'm on today, and I.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Think I want today.

Speaker 12 (51:17):
I want to be on I want to be on
the right side today.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Welcome. It's nice over here because.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
Friend, the person is dead, so like literally, they're never
going to be your competition, competing with the ghost.

Speaker 10 (51:31):
Never.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I didn't think that's true. I don't think that's true.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
I think if a person is still honoring their ex
husband at the wedding to the new person, you are
constantly being compared to honoring.

Speaker 12 (51:42):
First of all, it's just I'm wearing a symbol of
somebody I love that has passed on.

Speaker 13 (51:49):
Yes, I mean, fred you would have to walk away,
like if it bothered.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You, then you would have to say, listen, this is
not for me. I can't handle that.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
She's not wearing his change, She's wearing his wedding ring neck.
Oh my god, what do you want me to do? Yes, no,
she can keep it. I don't melt it down. I'm
not trying to. I'm not trying to destroy the human being.
I mean, I'm we're moving on, We're moving out to Cleveland. Hey, Roberta, Roberta,

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how you doing? What does you want to say? This
is nuts? You guys are crazy.

Speaker 15 (52:22):
I agree with you.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
Know why did he why is he?

Speaker 9 (52:24):
Like?

Speaker 8 (52:25):
Why is the comparing himself to a ghost? Feels like
he's in competition with him, Like knew with Vidymans who
he knew that she was a widow, and he knew
that she loved that she loved him.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
But I mean, Bud, what, Roberta, are you Mary? Are
you married?

Speaker 16 (52:46):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
I would you have been okay with your husband honoring
another woman who he was previously married to at his
wedding to you? Come on, Roberta, come on, there's a
time and a place to this stuff. I'm not saying
we raised his memory. I'm not and that it wasn't there.
It's not a fun time in your life.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
But I mean, so you tell me when I take
your clothes off at the end of the night, I
gotta look at the wedding ring of the dude from before.

Speaker 8 (53:11):
It's like a tattoo if somebody had a tattoo, do
you know what I'm saying? Or a tramp stamp, you know,
like it's stat a reminder. But why are you like
he knew amp stamp?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Who's getting a tramp stamp with him? Berna? What kind
of tattoos you got? I'm worried about you?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I got a lot. How you doing?

Speaker 16 (53:31):
Oh? You know that some women get their their sauces
names on them, although they shouldn't, but you know it's
so it's like that, But like this person is bad,
Like why is he trying to like why are you
trying to compete with him?

Speaker 10 (53:46):
Right?

Speaker 5 (53:47):
Why?

Speaker 4 (53:49):
I guess it's going to be hard enough to just
it came on to original point. The amount of trauma
that must you know, that you must endure to process
something like that is extreme and there's no one questioning that.
But I guess I would wonder if we're doing that,
are you really ready for me?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I guess would be the question that I would be asked.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
But do you not think that they had the conversation beforehand,
Like I'm sure that he was aware that he meant
something really special to her because that was her husband
at some point, so he should have had that in
the back of his mind before he asked her to
marry him.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, but he.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Also he's gone to Reddit because he feels a little
shocked by this gesture, like he didn't see this case.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
He's a man, he doesn't know how to communicate.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
I mean, he wrote very clearly. I read it, so
have a good day.

Speaker 16 (54:39):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I don't think anyone's saying that you don't honor what
was I just don't know if that's the time and
the place and the way to manifest him, because because
I do think you also have to consider how it
makes the person you're marrying feel. That person's feelings matter
too in this but the grief.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
That comes with losing a spouse.

Speaker 12 (54:56):
And then I'm back at this wedding place where I
only saw this for my past husband, so it's like
it's something that maybe makes her feel safe in that
moment to like I'm doing this again. I'm trying to
love again without the fear of losing this person again.
It's just a little sense of comfort, like a blanky.
I cannot bring my blanket like you know, why is your.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Dead husband your comfort? I'm your comfort.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
It takes a special kind of.

Speaker 13 (55:19):
Person, and it's okay, Like everybody's feelings are valid.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
If it's not working for you, that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Period, okay to want to hide.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Hi, Hey, I'm so sad that you were in this
situation like this, and I am sorry that you encountered this.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
Thank you. I would work to one for ten years.
We had three boys together, and unfortunately he passed away
and about four ish, almost five years later, I met
some one else. We were married. My sister off from
my previous marriage was my nature of honor. Her husband
helped pay for our limo, and we're still very active

(55:57):
in each other's life. Were going vacations together with each
other's families and everything. So I think it just depends
on how mature you take the situation. I'm sure that
my husband probably feels a certain way, but because we
have children together, he just wanted to give them as
much love as he could doing if they had a loss.

(56:19):
So I just think that sometimes you have to think
about that person's all over with you. And if it
was you that passed away, would you want your wife
to forget about you and never ever think about you
ever again? No, I think that's hard to say if
you haven't been in a situation.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
No to what, I wouldn't, But I also I wouldn't.
I guess I can tell you I wouldn't expect to
be honored in any way at her wedding to another man.
I don't think that's the time and the place.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be friends with your
I mean everything that you just said is completely reasonable.
You have kids in a family, and you didn't ask
for any of this. That's all reasonable. I just don't
know why, you know, we have the ice sculpture of
the man at the rehearsal.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Like I don't know, Like I don't know. We don't
don't need to do that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (57:02):
Yeah, I sculptured my bill a little much, you know.
I mean, I guess he wanted to wear the necklace.
I mean, maybe not on her neck per se, but
maybe into Twain and her garter or something like that.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I mean, I don't think we needed any closer to
the virgin than time.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Just think there's a time and a place. But hey,
and thank you for sharing. And I'm sorry that happened
to you. And I appreciate your perspective.

Speaker 10 (57:28):
Your friend, and I hope that everything turns out great
for her.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Luckily I don't know this person, because if I did,
I wouldn't I would be uninvited to the way. Hey, Kyle,
good morning. Hey, turn the radio down, Kyle, please, Okay,
there you go. Hey man, what do you want to say?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Go ahead, Hey, I'm just saying I agree with you.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
I mean the guy unfortunately he passed away.

Speaker 14 (57:51):
But at the same time, like he don't need.

Speaker 10 (57:53):
To remember that at my wedding because hey, this is
my day, Like why do you check my time off
of me?

Speaker 14 (57:59):
And oh, it's not about being a competition or anything.
How would you feel if I wore my ex wife's.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Scring as she passed away, You're gonna have a whole
feet Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I don't think that would go over very well with
very many people. But thank you, Kyle. I have a
good day. I appreciate you now. But somebody said, here's
the thing.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Somebody said on here, what do they say, Fred isn't
ready to marry a widow because he's not accepting it
for fully. First of all, I don't know what you're
talking about. That is in his case by case, I'm
talking about a particular case where it seems like a
woman is not necessarily over her previous marriage. That's what
it seems like to me. But I don't think we're
considering the other side of this. I think we're only
considering the needs of this woman. Okay, because as a

(58:37):
guy who has dated people who have lost their previous
significant other, I'm accepting of that person's situation, But I
think that person needs to be accepting of mine, which
is that I'm going to be insecure about this man
that you loved and didn't do anything wrong. This isn't
a breakup, this isn't a divorce. I mean, you know,

(58:58):
everything was fine and then they were gone, and that
is awful, right, But like that's going to be difficult
for me too. So why why are we why do
we have to put that in my face on that day?
I guess it'd be the question that I'm asking because
as much as I am going to be obviously i'm
marrying you, I'm accepting of of of whatever you've been through.
I think you also have to accept the fact that, wow,

(59:19):
I wouldn't even be here if that hadn't happened. And
you know, that's a significant relationship that ended with zero closure.

Speaker 13 (59:27):
Did they say how long she had been widowed before
they started to get married.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
It didn't say. And by the way, someone says that
screams insecurity. Yeah, I said that from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
It does. I'm insecure about it.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm very honest.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
I'm telling you. I know, I know it's an unpopular opinion.
I'm just telling you what I.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Think, and I respect that. I respect that. I mean,
I think we should all be able to spare our opinions.
And that's okay.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
I didn't say from the beginning when I told you,
I was keeping it on the real it's an unpopular opinion,
and you guys can count on me all day. But
that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
I have agree with you, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
It would be it would absolutely be an insecurity. Absolutely
it would.

Speaker 13 (01:00:04):
Be because I don't know if you ever get over
that because it wasn't there's no closure, there wasn't a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, So it's like you say, she's not over it.
I wonder if you ever do. I mean, who knows.
I couldn't speak on it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
More fresh show next right here?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
How do you eat your banana? More importantly, how do
you I guess open the banana? Is really debate about this,
like you're nod in your head like you've heard this before.

Speaker 13 (01:00:32):
Yeah, because there's a way that we're all supposed to
be doing it, and there's a way that we all
do do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Well, what is the way that you are supposed to
be doing it.

Speaker 13 (01:00:39):
At the opposite end, like not the top stem.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
So there's the antenna side, yeah, and there's the butthole side.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, you're supposed to open it from the butthole.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
How can that even be? How would you even do that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
As the monkey, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Know, rip ripped the antenna side, like you break it
a little bit, you have a little leverage there and
then you peel it down and then you you look down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
And then you eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
That's not how they were made, apparently, that is how.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
There is no other way. There's no other way to
eat it, and I don't know monkeys. They can do
whatever they want, but like they obviously haven't been todd
the proper way order.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
It's a fresh shew.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
It's Kiki's cord, Kiki Church, Kiki, take it away please,
And I hope this isn't mean wherever it is, you know,
and my own means if your opinion is not, don't
you share your opinion either?

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
Now I can't. I can't. You know how I get down?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
All right, write a letter to the boss.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I don't care. I say what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
All right, that's so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Of how I feel too. But sometimes it's just deflating.
It's just inflating because I'm like, that's what you heard.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Yes, that's what you heard, and that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
All right, take it away, all right, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Get into the courtroom.

Speaker 12 (01:01:45):
It says, hey, Ki, ky am I wrong for blocking
my sister after she embarrassed me at the car dealership.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
My name is Tony, and.

Speaker 12 (01:01:54):
I recently got into a bad car accident that left
me without a car for a few months. After recovering
and working overtime at my job, I finally saved up
enough money for a down payment on a new car.
During my time without a car. My sister was nice
enough to drive me back and forth to work, so
she was relieved when I asked her to take me

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to the dealership to finally get a new ride. She
helped me pick a car, She joined me for the
test drive, and she waited with me while we worked
out the numbers. It was going so well into the
finance guy told me that I needed a co signer.
I immediately looked at my sister because I do it for.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Her with no question.

Speaker 12 (01:02:35):
However, she quickly said no and refused to have any
part of the deal. She put me in a really
bad spot and left me at the dealership with no
car and made me leave the dealership with no car.
And I haven't spoken to her since, and I have
no plans to am I wrong on this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Time. Textersre do we come.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
And Kiki, you and I are often aligned on these things,
So Judge Kiki would say you.

Speaker 12 (01:03:06):
We are the bullies, And unfortunately I don't want to
bully you, Tony, but I wouldn't have signed for you either. Bro,
I'm sorry. I mean, your sister has done a lot.
She's been driving you around since you've had your accident.
She's set at the dealership with you. We know how
long that can take. And if you need a co signer,
what have you done to your credit that maybe you

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know she doesn't want to put herself in risk or
in harm's way of having the same issue. I don't
think you can ever get wrong at someone for refusing
to be your co signer.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
There are a lot of variables here, right, I mean,
you know, you want to help somebody, especially family, get
on their feet, and maybe maybe it's worth it to
you to help them get transportation because then that takes
the burden off of you as well. But my question
would be, is there no autumn will be a lot
there that you can buy without a co signer?

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Like are you in?

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Because if that's true to your point, right, if there's
no automobile on the planet that anyone will sell you
without a co signer, then we got to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Work on some other things in our life, right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
And I realize people come upon on hard times or whatever,
but you're asking me to now attach myself to that
situation and that is unfair, right, Like, I mean, if
your credit is so bad that and again, maybe this
person's trying to buy a car, they can't afford, in
which case you don't need me to co sign because
you probably shouldn't be buying this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Car, right, Is there any other option?

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Because when it comes to me attaching myself to your
tenuous financial situation, I think that might be too much
to ask, even for family.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
It's not really fair.

Speaker 12 (01:04:38):
I agree with you one hundred percent on this one.
I mean, and I know how it can feel when
you're at a dealership and you pick out the car
and you take it on the drive and you start
loving everything about it. You got the new car, smell,
the seats, feel good, you're excited, and then you go
back and work those numbers and they come back like, ooh,
we need a co signer. I know you felt away
when that happened, but you can't just now think that

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that's just sister's responsibility to now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Be your co signer. Like she's your sister, she doesn't
have to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I would love to know what kind of car it was,
to like, are you trying to go buy a BMW
or something? And because not everybody can most people can't
afford you know whatever? You know what I mean, It's like,
are you going for a specific thing? Because at this point,
it sounds like anything would do, any reliable mode of
transportation is what you need right now, right But asking
people when it comes to money, you know, it's it's

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that's not an easy ask because some people have worked
very hard to put themselves in a good financial position
and they don't necessarily need you to mess.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
That up for them. And that tends to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
All the time, all of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
You guys are the Jerry though, eight five five five
three five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I'm a sucker?

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
So I probably would get pulled into this knowing me,
But I also don't know if I'm the one that'll
be asked to be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
To be honest, your house needs a car. Three I'm
a co signer. I'm like, oh no, but I do agree.
I just feel like, you know what, I get my
stuff together, which will be soon.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
I'm not cosetting nothing for nobody because I, like you said,
work too hard to either repair my credit or just
you know, get it up there. Like my mom is
such an angel, and she I know she would do it. However,
I don't ever want to do it to anybody else
just because I feel and I use my mom's an example,
because I know she's like the first person that would
do what I recall, But I just also want to
feel bad because if I'm laid on payments and all that,

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it affects her, and that's the last thing I want
to do is ruin somebody else's future and credit and
all of that. Now, I know, like as a mother,
if my daughter was to ask me, and I probably
will have to co sign like college loans or something.
I'm sure you'll see my name on there in eighteen
years that I'll do, Like, I'll know if she can't
pay it, like Mama's got her, her dad we got her.
But that's it, like just my child, that is all,

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no sibling nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, and so on said, well, what if it's lack
of credit history? You know, maybe would be.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
But then someone else commented, well, how quickly, considering how
quick this is a text, Considering how quickly Tony was
willing to write her sister off for saying no one
time after all that help, you can kind of guess
how much responsibility and accountability that this person is willing
to take.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I would say no as well. That's a good point
you can use.

Speaker 12 (01:07:09):
She's been driving you around being your uber all this
time that you didn't have a car, and then the
one time she says no, it's like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Well, I don't. I don't even want to talk to
you anymore. Right, that's wild.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
And then someone else suggested on the text, maybe the
ask is for a loan, but this also doesn't sound
like a person I would want to loan money to,
to be honest.

Speaker 12 (01:07:26):
Right, And you know how I feel about family with loans.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
I rather just give you, Yeah, that's I feel the
same way. If the only way that I'm in a
position to give a friend or family a loan is
if I can see it as as never seen, is
if I can accept giving it to you and never
getting it back, because I'm not willing to lose a
friendship or a family member over money. So if you
ask me for money, I need to be in a
position to essentially gift it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Oh yeah, because people will.

Speaker 12 (01:07:50):
People will take a loan and then act completely normal
when it's past the payback deadline, like they do keep
going on and I'm like, all I can think about
is the money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I gave you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
And then you get into stuff like you loan somebody
money and they're supposed to pay you back, and then
all of a sudden they pull up in the BMW
and you're like, wait a minute, right, you needn't have
any money, and now you got this nice car, but
like you still owe me money.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
At the stakehouse, and then you start to free start
to go kills, right, and then you say nice vacation, right, right, vacation.

Speaker 12 (01:08:15):
When I loan you money, I want you to eat
Ramen noodles out the pad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
I get my money back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
I don't want to see you. Why are you spending
more money?

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Yes, yeah, I mean, I know it just sounds it
sounds harsh, but maybe maybe this also might be a
blessing for this person too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Maybe this person should not be buying. Clearly they can't
buy the car, so they probably don't need it. It's
there's probably something about this that doesn't need to happen
that could be even more problematic in the future. Hey Emily,
good morning, good morning. Hi Kiki's Carl. What say you so?

Speaker 9 (01:08:50):
I mean, first of all, it's like I think he
left out a lot of details and probably you know,
for the reason of would all be even more against him.

Speaker 10 (01:08:57):
But he doesn't owe him anything.

Speaker 9 (01:09:00):
Huge ask and to block her immediately is also just
an immature response.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Why didn't her I don't remember.

Speaker 9 (01:09:07):
They'll hear who wrote in, like why didn't they try
to have Yeah, why didn't they at least like try
to have a conversation like, oh, why do you feel
uncomfortable being my co signer? Or like, you know, because
maybe that'll also give them an insight into why others
wouldn't want to co sign or what he could do
to get a co signer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:09:24):
It seems like he has unrealistic guess.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Actually, well, and Emily, I agree with the texture and
with you that that that move in itself says a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Oh so I've done all this for you. I won't
co sign. I won't attest myself to a loan, you know,
for a significant amount of money for you. So you
just blocked me. So the second that I don't do
what you need me to do, then you eliminate me,
even though this comes at risk to me. So you
don't actually care about me at all?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Right, right, what I can do for you exactly, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
The second I don't do it, then I then I'm out.
We all know people like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
The second you're not serving them, then they don't want
you in their life any more. The only way it
works is if you serve them, and it's like, nuh no,
we don't need people like that.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
He's not thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
The liability for his sister.

Speaker 9 (01:10:07):
Also, like what if she's trying to you know, like
buy a condo or you know, do a big purchase
for herself, where Like my advice when I was looking
at condos was don't co find anything, you know, don't
do like, don't fine for anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
So like, you know, she could have her home like
things she's trying to get in her life that I.

Speaker 9 (01:10:24):
Mean obviously, like you guys just said, like it's about him,
not her, and that's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Yeah, thank you, Emily, have a good day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Yeah you too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
And look, I know that not everybody's in a position
to have great credit and times are tough and people
aren't making enough money to make ends meet. I'm not
talking about that, but I am talking about it. It
can and does take a lot of sacrifice to put
yourself in a good financial situation. Oftentimes even people that
don't have a whole lot are able to do it.
But they're having to sacrifice, right, So then for me
to just willing nearly coast on on somebody who may

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not have those same values, then that puts all that
at risk.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yes, so, so I don't think I have to do
that for you, especially if we don't share the same
financial literacy values or or financial awareness, the same values
in that regard, because not everybody. I feel like it's
some people will say, well, you know, if you're in
a good financial position, it's because you're rich, or because
you have this or that. That's not entirely true.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
There are people who don't have a ton of money
who also don't have a ton of debt because they
live within their means right. And again, I'm not talking
about extenuating circumstances. I'm not talking about student loans or
medical debt or the things that you just simply have
to spend on. So I don't necessarily need to go
screw it up because of you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
And then the second I say no, you block me. Tony.
Come on, Hey, Gabby, Hi, Hi, Gabby, good morning. What
do you think?

Speaker 11 (01:11:49):
Okay? I agree with both of you, guys. I do
think that it is valid that Tony asked her sister
to be her co signer, But Tony's sister, I'm sure
is just like us to like kind of like giving
in and doing things that she needs for her, but
she also has to set her own boundaries at some point,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Yeah, and when it comes to money, I don't I
don't necessarily have to have to do that for you. No,
It's a very serious topic and it could affect me
for the rest of my life. It could affect my
ability to go get a house, in a car or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
And I think you, at some point you have to
protect yourself. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:12:25):
I feel like it shows more about Tony's character that
she went right ahead and blocked her sister.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Yeah. I agree. Thank you, Gabby, Thanks for listening. Have
a good day, you too. Glad you called. Hey Jessica,
good morning, welcome, good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
How are you doing, Hey, Jessica. So Keikey's Court, basically,
it's a it's a brother's sister situation, and the sister
was I'm trying to get because Tony Tony is the brother.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
So Tony is being asked to don't don't want to donate.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
On a car, is asking his Okay, I'm trying to
get this right, and the sister says no, and so
Tony's pissed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
But it's like, wait a minute, you know, is that
is that an obligation if you're not able to get
something financially and you need someone else to be involved
with that, does it have to be me?

Speaker 10 (01:13:10):
No, that's not even from top to bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
He's completely wrong. That's not her obligation.

Speaker 18 (01:13:15):
He already from the accident, he's already financially irresponsible, because
did you have insurance to even cover some of the
money to get you into a new car?

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Oh, that's a good question. And then on top of that.

Speaker 18 (01:13:29):
You have to work all of these hours, work, work,
work to have a down tatement.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
So you don't have anything saved in a bank.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
So yeah, yeah, now you want me to attach my name,
my resources to you when you already prove it you cannot,
you know, you can't take care of your business. Yeah,
So again to block her when she's already you know,
stepped up and helped him out at a time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
But me, so no, And let's also take any consideration.
Let's just assume that this is a good obviously, this
is a good sibling.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Has it been helping this person out?

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
You know a lot of other ways, and so this
person must feel that she he or she cannot do
this because you know what I mean, Because it's not
like we're talking about a selfish human being who just like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
There's contracts here that you don't know. So she obviously
is uncomfortable with this notion for some reason, so what
don't we know here?

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
And has offered a lot of other solutions. So I
don't like it. I wouldn't do it either. Thank you
so much, have a good day.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Thank you you too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Glad you called Jessica. Hey, Dahlia, Dalia girl.

Speaker 9 (01:14:32):
All right, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
What do we do with the follow Are you okay? Melp?

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Okay? You work at a car dealership, so you know
something about this?

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yes, I do a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
I work in the office.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
I work a little bit with like people trying to
sell their.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
Cars, and a lot of the time they're aren't able
to because they're co shiner.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
They're the co signer and the person who's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Trying to sell the car.

Speaker 9 (01:15:03):
They never made the payments or something, or they're late,
so just messes up what they're whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
They own the car.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
So basically you're saying this, this could potentially become a
big problem for the unassuming co signer who's simply there
just to help.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
You get the money. Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, I can't
be doing this stuff all right, Dallia, back to juggle
on your phone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Have a good day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Bye, glad you yet?

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Oh no, you? And you know your siblings like you
know you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
We all love exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:15:31):
And I know I know which sibling is loan money to,
and I know which one absolutely

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Not exactly, and I love them both the same, exactly,
but not enough to give money my money.