Dave Williams from the Taxpayers Protection Alliance is watching your money

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Seven six here at Pety about kerspTalks Station. By the time, I
was wishing you a very happy Wednesdayand welcoming back. Always enjoy my conversations
with Taxpayer Protection Alliance. Dave Williams. Dave, welcome back, my friend.
It's great, have a great pleasurehaving you on the program. Good
morning, Brian. And I wastalking to Joe right before we go.
I came on the air and hementioned there's no streetcar news, and I

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gotta tell you, I'm a littleconcerned about that, because when it's really
quiet, you know something is goingto happen, right, you know,
it's almost too quiet the call beforethe storm. Wow, Well, they're
gonna have the real hat trick tofigure out where they're gonna where they're gonna
come up with the money for anyextension of the streetcar from where it is
right now, considering how expensive itis to maintain it upkeep. But it's

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free, Dave, it's free.Well, it's free. It doesn't cost
anything for the streetcar except for thatpesky five million dollars a month in maintenance
and debt service. Anyhow, Yeah, we've got a bit of a financial
problem going on here in the Cityof Cincinnati, So any talks swirling around
streetcar expansion are quickly met with theoverwhelming fiscal reality that we're facing here as

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a city. You know, it'samazing what happens once those COVID funds runs
out, isn't it. Wow,you're not kidding. I mean, we're
seeing that all across the country,you know, with schools and everywhere else,
you know, because they had thishuge infusion of cash, Like Baltimore
City had this huge, huge infusionof cash and it's gone, absolutely gone.
And what they've done is that they'veextended themselves and they've created new programs.

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Yes, and they've hired people,and they're saying, wait, this
money has gone and we're going topay for it now. So yeah,
this is incredible. That reminds meof got to go back to the Clinton
ages. You know, h we'reresponsible for hiring one hundred thousand new place
police officers. Well all that waswas a one time infusion of cash solely
for the purpose of hiring police officers. But then you're left with the tab
of keeping them employed and salaried afterthe initial infusion of cash, and people

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forget about the tail expenditure. Whenthey're doing stuff like that. Yeah,
and the stimulus program, remember whenthey you know, all these projects across
the country. Well, guess what, once they're built, you have to
maintain them and keep them up sothey don't Yeah, Dave, come on,
look at the roads in the cityof Cincinnati when you're here next time.
Now, just because you built aroad forty years ago doesn't mean you
have to fix it. Sucks tobe you. Yeah, we got potholes.

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Don't worry about it. These thingstake care of themselves. Incredible,
that's the world we find ourselves in. Anyway, get your reaction from the
Saturday shooting. I know this numberone on the topic list this morning.
I found it. It's almost asif it's hard to believe. You wake
up and another day has dawned andyou find out that the screw up was

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even worse. Like every single dayhe finds a new tidbit of information like
how in God's name could that havepossibly happened? And I read about this
the Secret Service receiving some what wasdescribed as some pretty solid intelligence human intelligence
about an Iranian plot to assassinate Trumpthat they knew about in advance of the
shooting. They claimed that they hadbeefed up resources and assets prior to Saturday

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on behalf of the Trump administration andDonald Trump generally speaking. But what in
the hell? I'm sorry, theslope of the roof was just a little
too much for Secret Service safety.That's the response we give from the Director
of the Secret Service. I mean, my god, they're standing on a
building that they had a bigger slopethan the roof that she was talking about.

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Social media is awash with photographs ofSecret Service agents with high powered rifles
perched the top multiple slope roofs,much more of a slope than that one
that was left unattended. This isinsanity. Dave Brian sick to myself,
you know when I heard what happenedon Saturday night, sick to my stomach,
and I have been ever since.And then, like you said,

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these details that are coming out isthat well, this building was outside the
perimeter of the safety zone. Itwas like there's a security zone, what
I mean, So that's all ittakes is to and then get the slope
of the roof. I mean,there's a failure here at the highest level,
and it hasn't been addressed, andwe've just heard lip service, right,

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It's just been lip service as toyou know, the things that have
gone wrong. People want accountability,and this is where it starts. I
mean, if you can't be accountablefor the president almost being killed, where
will you have the accountability in government? And that's why it's critical that these
questions are asked and there's answers,and people need to be fired. There
needs to be you know, peopleneed to lose their jobs over what happened

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on Saturday. And this is wesee this in the government all the time,
that when there are failures, peoplearen't held accountable for the failures without
question. And you know, Imean to pick on the Biden administration because
you know, all administrations are guiltyof this to some degree, but Lord
Almighty Biden administration has had some absolutelyepic failures and not as single head has

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rolled. I mean with the exceptionof voluntary, I mean leaving people believing
voluntary, like Jen Sackey because shegot a better job and didn't want to
hang out being the White House Presssecretary, because that was a train wreck.
You know, people who screw upare let go. I mean my
orcas he was in charge of theborder, what happened. Well, we
don't have one. He's still around, right, Yeah, Yeah, And

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you know, this happens at everyagency, whether it's you know, Transportation,
Pete Boudaget, you know, followthem down the line. You have
these massive failures of leadership. Andyou know, and again you talk about,
you know, the Biden administration.It happens in every administration, but
this seems so much more amplified inthe past three and a half four years.

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Yeah. And my military friends,and we heard from one of them
just the other day talking about beingheld accountable. You know, the buck
stops with the director of the SecretService, agent Kim Cheatle, if this,
if she was in a military role, he insisted that she would be
fired promptly. She would be removedfrom that position. It is her responsibility.

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Even though maybe she didn't have herfinger directly on where people were going
to be set up or where peoplewere posted. The buck stops at her
desk. And this was such acolossal failure. I mean, when your
best response to not having someone assignedto the rooftop one hundred and thirty feet
our yards away is that it hadtoo much of a slope, so we

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put people inside the building to makesure everything was safe. I mean,
that's all you've got to go on. I'm sorry, you're done, you
gotta. I voluntarily stepped down ifI was her, out of embarrassment.
I mean, I couldn't imagine,you know, being in that job and
that happening and not stepping down andthen, like you said, not just
leaving out of sheer embarrassment. Andyeah, listen, she may leave and

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probably get a huge pension, right, I mean, oh yeah, we'll
probably so, you know, Butagain, what are we going to learn
from this? And whenever something goeswrong? You know, my question is
my dad always, you know,taught me this is like what's learned from
it? And how do you fixit? And I don't want to see
how they fix this and how theymove forward. Well, I know many

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people in my listening audience and almostgot my foot in the water on this
one. We just have lost somuch faith in government, our institutions generally
speaking, and the idea that we'reactually going to get a straight answer from
anyone in government, most notably underthis administration. Nobody's expecting to find out
anything, you know, I mean, we still they do it all the

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time. Don't they you know,like for example, I just moving over
away from something criminal. Well,I guess it was criminal contextually speaking,
Robert Hur's report, we aren't allowedto hear the audio of that. We
have a transcript of something. There'sno national security interest here, there's no
future prosecutorial risk here. There's nothingby way of excuse or explanation for us
not being allowed to have that audio. And yet the people who demand it,

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our elected officials who are responsible forour government voting on our behalf and
getting and engaging in oversight and lookinginto these things, have been told basically,
screw you, you're not going toget it. I mean, this
happens all the time. It boilsdown to, Brian, is that the
government is making decisions for us andsaying that you don't need this information that

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you know, we are going totake care of you. We the government
are going to take care of you. No, we're going to take care
of ourselves. And the more informationthe better. And you know we've talked
about this numerous times. Is youknow, accountability starts with transparency, and
right now the American public deserves transparencyand what's happened well, and the more
we learn, the less likely itis we're going to rely on our elected

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officials and whether and trust them,which, you know, maybe a welcome
change. If more people lose faithin government as a solution to their problems,
maybe we quit turning to government asfor the solution for our problems because
they clearly aren't good at solving ourproblems. And I think that message really

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is resonating with people, is thatpeople just want to be left alone.
Right. They want to live theirlives, make their own financial decisions,
not their financial decisions coming out ofa government agency like the irs. They
want to make their own decisions inlife, whether it's personal or financial.
Amen to that. It's like lillibertarian to me coming out and just smiling

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at the notion that we might havemore people joining in that concept. Dave
Williams taxpayer protection lines, you findthem online at Protecting Taxpayers dot org.
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Taxpayer Protection Alliance again online at ofProtecting Taxpayers dot org. The good,
the bad, and the ugly theygraded the twenty twenty four GOP platform.

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I'm inclined to move forward to thebad and the ugly, Dave. I
mean, I see the good wecan all agree on, you know,
slashing waste for government spending, makingthe permanent, the Trump tax cuts,
helping the auto industry by reversing theridiculous vehicle emissions rules, universal school choice,
getting rid of the Department of Education. All good, demonstrably, so

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we can go on all day abouthow great they are. What is the
bad and what is the ugly thatyou figured out here? Dave? Yeah,
and Brian, what we're doing hereis we're calling balls and strikes.
Right. We look at we lookat the policy platform, and we go,
Okay, what is good for consumersand taxpayers what's bad. And we're
being honest brokers here, and we'regoing to do the same thing for the
Democrats. Probably a lot more badand ugly for the Democrats, but more

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than likely balls and strikes. Yeah, and you know this is something that's
going to see him counterintuitive, andthat's eliminating taxes on tips for the restaurant
and hospitality workers. And I'll tellyou why we consider this bad is that
we want lower taxes for everybody.Amen. And I know this is a
very popular thing to talk about,but why are we treating one class better

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than another of worker? I thinkthat, you know, our tax burden
is still way too high on everybody. So we would hope that the GOP
would embrace extending the tax cuts fromtwenty seventeen, and I think they will.
And yeah, I guess was yesterdayPresident Trump said that he wants to
reduce the corporate tax from twenty onepercent to fifteen percent, which I mean,

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that's amazing because businesses can hire,they can invest back into their business.
So that's what we want, isdeeper tax reform. So that's yeah,
point and point well taken, Dave. That always needs to be made
any time about corporate taxes because thoseevil corporations don't pay their fair share.
We pay the corporate taxes. Weare the ones that buy their goods and
services, and those taxes are passedalong as part of doing business to the

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consumer. So lowering corporate taxes ultimatelylowers the price of goods and services for
Americans. Absolutely. And we knowone of the things that they're talking about
is protecting Social Security and Medicare.But they say, the Republicans say,
and the Platform says, it's notgoing to be done through raising their retirement
age or cuts. Well, howare you going to do this? I

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mean, you can't just say somethingand make it happen. There has to
be a plan. And again Iappreciate that they're talking about this, but
there's no depth to it. Andthey took two of the options off the
table that probably need to be onthe table. And guess what if we
don't do something, there will becuts to social Security. If nothing is
done, there will be cuts.So there needs to be a deeper discussion.

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And I hope this week there isa deeper discussion on Social Security and
Medicare. And yes, I knowI'm dreaming. I know, for them
to talk about entitlement reform during anyconvention is not going to happen. Yeah,
not in advance of November. However, Dave, don't you think they're
keeping their powder dry on that topicso it can become a topic or conversation

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if and when Trump is elected.I hope so, I really hope so,
because we have done polling and itshowed that people want to have the
discussion. I think is what.Seventy percent of the people said, yes,
well, something needs to be done. I mean, so it's not
it's the third rail, but itisn't anymore because people understand just how dire
the situation is. Existential threat DaveWilliams. Existential threat and to many Americans,

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you know, personal lives too,because they've grown up believing they're going
to be able to rely on SocialSecurity. If you don't fix it,
then it isn't going to be therefor folks, all right? What else
is bad and or ugly, Dave? Oh, tariffs, doubling and tripling
down on tariffs, and why thisis so bad as consumers will pay for
these tariffs. Businesses don't pay taxes. Consumers pay the taxes. And higher

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prices, and the same thing withtariffs. When you increase the cost of
anything, it goes directly to theconsumers. And I don't know why the
Republicans continue to embrace tariffs and raisingthe price and well, it's China,
isn't isn't the simple word China.In response to that, it is China,
But there's also terriffs coming out ofthe EU and products coming out of

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the European Union, so it's notjust China, and it's across the board.
And guess what, there's certain thingswe are just not manufacturing in this
country. And it would take usten fifteen years to have a manufacturing line
on these things, so you know, we don't have that option. But
that's what they're trying to do,is trying to bring more business back into
the US. And what's interesting isthe Republicans understand this with oil, right

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is we are building a very healthyWe're trying to build a pipeline from Canada,
that Keystone exl pipeline, which wouldreduce prices. But that's bringing oil
from Canada. I mean, thatis something that we, yeah, we
need. It's it's it's really interestingto see the diconomy here. That's true,
and I will recommend my listeners headon over to Protecting tax haayerspot dot

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org and check out the entire gradingthe twenty twenty four GOP platform analysis by
Dave and the crew at the taxPayer Protection Alliance. Dave, I wish
we had more time. I've gotCongressman Warren Davidson coming up the next segment
live from the RNC, so wewill part company today. I'll look for
it to having you back on theprogram and as always, keep up the
great work at the tax Payer ProtectionAlliance, my friend. Thanks Brian stayhole.

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