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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is six thirty, it is Friday. It is that time.
Thank you to interest it. You'll find an interest it
dot com, which the business carrier says is the best
business out there to help businesses with their computer related
needs and problems and best practices. And the man, the myth,
the legend behind interest I joins us every Friday at
this time. His name Dave Adda. Welcome back, Dave. Always
(00:23):
a pleasure to have you on the show, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Always my pleasure to be here, Brian, thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh yeah, where do you want to start?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I got the three articles you send, We've got dogs,
we've got job seekers, and we've got Apple helping the
Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Why don't we do that one last? Why don't we
start with the Ukraine deployees nine thousand dollars robots? All okay,
you know, the last ten years or so, Brian, we've
talked about, you know, robots and how far this technology's
advanced for a long time, and you know, it obviously
continues to advance. I encourage people to go out and
check out like Atlas for example, or must robots optimists
(01:01):
and see what these things can do. I know again,
we've talked about this. I'm sure you've watched some of
these videos. You know, I stumble into these things all
the time. But there's been concern by many experts out
there for you know, quite a while that these robots,
even though many of them have more industrial type applications.
(01:22):
And let's be real here, industrial robots have been around
for a long long time, right, I mean probably into
the late sixties or early seventies. We've seen factories in
places like GM and John Deere and so forth, Caterpillar,
you know, with the robot arm that's whatever. Yeah, so
that kind of I mean, the concept of robots itself
is not new, but when you look at the advanced
(01:43):
capabilities these things now have, it's pretty pretty wild on
a number of fronts. But the weaponization, you know, continues
to advance, and it is really kind of scary.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It is really really scary. And the other creepy thing
about it. At least the robots back when the ones
you're referring to, the early ones, didn't have animal like
or human like qualities. They look like industrial machinery. Now
you got these creepy armed dogs. They got four legs
and they run around. They kind of act like animals,
but they're not, and they're just scary as hell.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, to your point, you know, a lot of those
earlier industrial robots had limited mobility, right, they were fixed
to the ground, and they had a certain you know,
range of motion and certain tasks they perform, but for
the most part, they were you know, pretty much fixed
to one place. Now you've got to your point. Robots
that either look like animals are humanoid. They have a
(02:38):
wide range of motion, they can perform a wide array
of tasks. And again this idea of weaponization, which obviously
science fiction writers have been predicting for a long time.
But you know, we've seen examples now. And this is
a headline from the New York Post. Ukraine deploys nine
thousand dollars robot dogs versus Russia, with plans to use
them as quote kamakazis unquote on the front lines. Yeah,
(03:01):
and you know that this article gets into a variety
of different uses. They have pictures of what I'm assuming
are Ukrainian soldiers with these robot dogs, which look like
something out of an X Files episode, or there is
a Black Mirror episode. For folks who haven't seen Black Mirror,
on Netflix. You know, there's a Black Mirror episode that
once you see this headline and watch it, you will
(03:23):
you will definitely see why there are concerns.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
But they watch that show.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I get it, Brian, I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So creepy real, and it's like a moment and it's
one moment in time ahead of where we are right now.
And that's what's so creepy about that show.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I am not gonna just what you're saying, but they've
got some photos and here are the dogs doing different things,
and they point out I've cost about nine thousand. Obviously,
can't train a soldier for nine thousand dollars, or field
a soldier and feed a soldier for nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Or get a soldier agree to kill harm reserves?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes, well exactly. I was in the Army of Reserves
for eight years back between eighty six and ninety two
as a combat engineer, So you know, I'm really familiar
with things like C four and landmines and such. And
when you think about and that's really old technology. You know,
we're going back almost forty years now. When you think
of modern land mines, modern explosives that may be much
(04:25):
more powerful than C four that I don't know about.
When you look at the size of one of these robots,
you could pack a substantial amount of C four or
other military grade explosive on one of these things and
just literally have it walk into a truck or a tank.
You know. Now, these don't go that fast at this point.
Their maximum speed is nine miles an hour. But what
human being can run nine miles an hour for any
(04:47):
extended period of time many, you know, so it's it's
pretty crazy when you think that. You know, in the
old days, you go back and think about World War
two or something like that, you have a machine gun nest, right, yeah,
and you know you've got to fight the guys and
try to take them out, hand grenades, you know, obviously
a variety of different weapons. But here you could just
(05:09):
have one of these things walk right into it, and
depending on how heavily armored it is and how good
of a shot you are, I mean, obviously, if you
hit this with enough rounds, it's probably not going to survive.
But this is the first generation of this stuff. You know,
it does not look heavily armored, and obviously that would
weigh it down and make it you waste more battery
life because according to this article, these things only run
(05:30):
about five hours. But it just it shows you the
potential future of these sorts of weapons and warn No,
I know there's other articles out there about the Army
testing robot tanks. And you know, you've got drones. I
think drones obviously in my mind are a type of robot.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
They've got drone boats tom Cozi's that blow up ships
in the shipping line over in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, it's And I saw another article which I didn't
send you this morning apparently and again you know, I
always like to try to fact check this stuff as
much as I can, but apparently the Ukrainians have used
some sort of drone with a flamethrower on it. Now.
So yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If you can imagine it, it's real. I mean, that's
where we are. If you can just imagine it, it
probably is a reality out there somewhere behind the scenes,
just coming to a theater near you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, even if it's not in public, Yes, it's probably
in a lab somewhere. There's a greed.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know, it's real quick here because you get right.
I watched the drone display the EBN fireworks, thousand drones
flying in synchronicity, And the thing that struck me is like,
holy crap, this is a I could write a check
and pay for that myself. Like, if I had enough money,
I could hire the company. If it's a private company
that does this. Right, absolutely, they have the technology to
perform that kind of intricate ballet in the sky with
(06:51):
a thousand different drones. Can you imagine what the military
tick can do. It's just frightening stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, we'll come back. We'll talk about employment scams as
well as Apple and why are they promoting Chinese communist parties?
Spyware apps six forty two, Fify Doctor City talkstation. You
can find Dave and his crew Dave Adterscrew interest it
dot com. Thank you for sponsoring this important segment. Which
way you want to go? You want to go Chinese
Communist party or employment scams?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Why don't we do employment scams next?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think this is such an important topic and if
you just go do a quick search on this, right,
So I hit duck dot go. I did a quick
search on job scams, and I mean they're just pages
and pages of information. Let me give you a couple
of headlines here, and then we'll delve into some specifics.
The FTC says how to spot the latest job scams.
The FBI has reported on this the Better Business Bureau
(07:44):
Job Scam Alert, how to spot a job scam. Indeed,
a job hosting site right says ten signs of job posting,
maybe a scam. NBC says job scam searched one hundred
and eighteen percent, and twenty twenty three aided by ai
In has a similar headline. And then Money Magazine common
job scams and how to avoid them. That's just just
(08:06):
me scanning what I found on a simple search, Okay,
And I bring this up because I think this is
not news to anyone listening. The job market is not good.
It's getting worse rapidly from everything I've read, and I
know many people who are looking for jobs and struggling
mightily at this time. So I wanted to raise this
point because I know people are looking for jobs, and
(08:28):
I know the market is tough, and scammers, unfortunately, as
we've discussed so many times, Brian will go wherever people are.
These people are creative and devious, and they will steal
your information and or your money any possible way. So
I want to warn people while obviously keep looking for
a job. I just think it's so despicable that there
(08:50):
are scammers out there who would want to hit someone
when they're already down. I mean, how would you feel
and what impact would that have on you and your
family if you're already in financial trouble because you can't
find a job and now you have people stealing your
money and stealing your information and perhaps your identity as
a result. I mean, it's just absolutely despicable. So you know,
(09:12):
whether it's something like search engine poisoning, We've talked about
this before. People need to understand that the bad guys
will spend some moderate amount of money, some nominal amount
of money to go post a job on Indeed or
Monster or Dice or any job board they'll buy. They'll
use search engine optimization techniques and buy sponsored ads. So
when you search for something, what shows up on a
(09:33):
search engine like Google or Being or a start page
or Duck DUCKG or whatever is fake. Because they know
the average person doesn't know search engine poisoning is a thing, right,
They think that because things show up in a search engine,
they must be legit ye, or they show up on
a job board, they must be legit, and it's critical
to understand it. Just because something shows up in a search,
(09:54):
or just because a job is posted to a legitimate
job site doesn't mean there isn't a scammer behind it. Right,
everything is easy to spoof. These people are smart. They
know that average folks don't understand how these things work.
So you know real quick, because I know what are
out of time, I encourage people, and I'll post this
in my notes on Twitter and LinkedIn and so forth.
(10:15):
If you just look at the the ND ten signs
of job posting maybe fake or the FTC's guidance, there's
some great tips there that help you kind of wrap
your head around what to look out for. The number
one obviously being if it's too good to be true,
it probably is. Yeah. Hey, if you suddenly get an
unsolicited email from a quote recruiter or headhunter unquote and
(10:37):
they want to offer you a three hundred thousand dollars
a year remote job working four hours a day, hey
guess what?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Probably scam I'm going to go with. Definitely a scam.
Not a week goes by, I don't get an opportunity
to represent someone. Are you interested in doing some legal work?
I'm like, oh god, you know a delete, just delete delete, delete,
delete delete.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, you know, healthy death, skepticism and paranoia goes a
long long way in this stuff. And you know, if
they want you to pay upfront for training, product or
something and then you're going to reimburse you, almost a
guaranteed scam. You know, if the recruiter quote unquote wants
you to pay upfront, you know, I want to remind people,
(11:19):
almost all legitimate recruiters get paid by the employer who
wants to hire you when you're placed, and they have
an incentive to help you get the largest salary possible
because they're getting paid a percentage of your starting salary.
So again, the FTC has a bunch of tips, The
Federal Trade Commission FBI has information that's indeed paid with
(11:40):
the ten tips. And I'll wink all this stuff. So
you know, if you are someone you know as looking
for a job, your kids, your grandkids, your family, there
are plenty of resources out there that will help arm
them so that they can make smart decisions, because again,
looking for jobs online, that's the way this stuff works. Now.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Obviously, good Land mind, land mind literally everywhere.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Everywhere, everywhere, all right, But beware, folks.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Beware Chinese Communist Party being helped out by Apple.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Apparently. We'll talk about that next with Dave Hatter six two.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If you have carc Detalk station, Dave Hatter's gonna tell
us about the Chinese spyware app being promoted by Apple.
What's the story on this one? I thought Apple was
supposed to be one of the good guys out there, Dave.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, Apple generally is much more privacy and security friendly
than their competitors. And I'd just like to remind folks,
you know, all these big tech companies have their issues,
but when you look at Apple and Microsoft versus folks
like Google, Facebook, et cetera, their whole business model really
is different. Apple and Microsoft both sell you products, you know,
(12:44):
Apple both hardware and software, Microsoft mostly software. And ye,
folks can argue with me. Yeah, Google makes Pixel phones,
the Android operating system, so they do have some products.
Most of the money coming from Google is from your data,
same as meta slash Facebook. Right. Yeah, So I think
this is an interesting take and I'm glad someone is
raising the concern about this. It gets back to these
(13:07):
Chinese apps. You and I have talked about before, namely
TikTok for a long time and the privacy concerns and
propaganda concerns around TikTok. But this guy is an attorney.
It's article is written by Joel Thayer, and it's in
the Hill Again. I'll post the link. I encourage people
to go read it for themselves. This guy apparently is
the president of the Digital Progress Institute institute and a
(13:28):
tech and telecom lawyer in DC, and he makes some
interesting points, really going back to the fact that at
the end of the day, if a company is based
out of China, it's controlled by the People's Republic of
China and the Chinese Communist Party, who have some very
onerous laws in general and specifically around data collection and privacy.
(13:50):
And he states in here. So I'm going to read
directly from the article. For instance, China's twenty fifteen National
Security Law compels locally employed Chinese nationals of American companies
to assist investigations that may expose operating elements of American
companies with citizens. China's twenty twenty one cyber Vulnerability Reporting
Law requires Chinese based companies to report security flaws to
(14:10):
the Chinese government so they can quote exploit system flaws
before cyber vulnerabilities are publicly known unquote. And then you know,
he goes on with some other laws. You know, twenty
seventeen National Intelligence Law creates a legal obligation for those
entities to turn over data collected abroad and domestically to
the Chinese government, So that twenty twenty one cyber Vulnerability
(14:30):
Reporting Law basically in Layman's term, says, if you, as
a Chinese national, become aware of a vulnerability and software,
you are required to report it to the Chinese government
so they can exploit it before this would be a
zero day exploit, before it can be fixed by the manufacturer.
That's essentially what that means. So his point, so his
(14:51):
point here is you have an app store, and this
is not exclusive to Apple. I think he put his
sites on Apple primarily because they are seen as more
privacy and security friendly. So when you look at it
through that lens, this is you know, even more problematic
than you know something like the Android store. But this
would have the same problems, right if the app originates
(15:11):
from a company controlled by a Chinese company or directly
from China, you can guarantee any and all data it collects.
And let me remind folks, go look at the Apple
app Store privacy label for TikTok or any app that
Tamu right has recently come in the crosshairs. It's a
Chinese shopping app similar to Amazon right and for a
(15:32):
lot of these same problems. Look at the privacy label
which is required by Apple to be in their store
and see what it collects. It's astounding, and most of
it is stuff they don't need to provide the service
they claim to provide. So, you know, he points out
in more detail later in here, you know some of
the issues with specific types of apps. But the bottom
line is if you're using an app that's controlled by
(15:54):
a Chinese company, they are collecting enormous amounts of data
about you and potentially using it as a propaganda tool
to push pro prc CCP narratives and to push anti American,
anti Western narratives, propaganda, spyware, et cetera. So again, this
is a theme that keeps coming up, right, and there
(16:16):
are many people who have now warned about this. It's
why we've seen the push for the TikTok ban there
are now people calling for bands on things like Tamu. Again,
I encourage people. There was a great article recently, I
can't remember the exact headline with something like Tamu is
a spyware app in your pocket and you know it
goes into detail around this Again, I'll wink all this
(16:37):
stuff so people can get more information, share with their
family members who might be using these things. I understand
the convenience. I understand that it's nice to get cheap
goods that will fall apart the first time you use them.
But you got to understand the larger psio ops, black ops,
propaganda aspects of these things. And even if that isn't
(16:58):
a concern to you, where you don't believe it, all
of your extremely sensitive data going to Chinese companies who
are controlled by the CCP and the PRC, who are
increasingly adversarial to all Western countries. Just look at what's
been going on in the Philippines recently with them ramming
Coast Guard and Philippine Coast Guard chips and so forth.
(17:19):
It's not good. There's nothing good that can come of
this for you using these apps.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
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Business Career says they're the best in the business. Thanks
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but you got to get the info out and I'm
glad we've got you to help us out. Dave hat Ter,
have a wonderful weekend, my friend. We'll talk next Friday.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Always my pleasure. Brian, have a great day and I'll
talk to you in
It is six thirty, it is Friday. It is that time.
Thank you to interest it. You'll find an interest it
dot com, which the business carrier says is the best
business out there to help businesses with their computer related
needs and problems and best practices. And the man, the myth,
the legend behind interest I joins us every Friday at
this time. His name Dave Adda. Welcome back, Dave. Always
(00:23):
a pleasure to have you on the show, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Always my pleasure to be here, Brian, thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh yeah, where do you want to start?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I got the three articles you send, We've got dogs,
we've got job seekers, and we've got Apple helping the
Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Why don't we do that one last? Why don't we
start with the Ukraine deployees nine thousand dollars robots? All okay,
you know, the last ten years or so, Brian, we've
talked about, you know, robots and how far this technology's
advanced for a long time, and you know, it obviously
continues to advance. I encourage people to go out and
check out like Atlas for example, or must robots optimists
(01:01):
and see what these things can do. I know again,
we've talked about this. I'm sure you've watched some of
these videos. You know, I stumble into these things all
the time. But there's been concern by many experts out
there for you know, quite a while that these robots,
even though many of them have more industrial type applications.
(01:22):
And let's be real here, industrial robots have been around
for a long long time, right, I mean probably into
the late sixties or early seventies. We've seen factories in
places like GM and John Deere and so forth, Caterpillar,
you know, with the robot arm that's whatever. Yeah, so
that kind of I mean, the concept of robots itself
is not new, but when you look at the advanced
(01:43):
capabilities these things now have, it's pretty pretty wild on
a number of fronts. But the weaponization, you know, continues
to advance, and it is really kind of scary.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It is really really scary. And the other creepy thing
about it. At least the robots back when the ones
you're referring to, the early ones, didn't have animal like
or human like qualities. They look like industrial machinery. Now
you got these creepy armed dogs. They got four legs
and they run around. They kind of act like animals,
but they're not, and they're just scary as hell.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, to your point, you know, a lot of those
earlier industrial robots had limited mobility, right, they were fixed
to the ground, and they had a certain you know,
range of motion and certain tasks they perform, but for
the most part, they were you know, pretty much fixed
to one place. Now you've got to your point. Robots
that either look like animals are humanoid. They have a
(02:38):
wide range of motion, they can perform a wide array
of tasks. And again this idea of weaponization, which obviously
science fiction writers have been predicting for a long time.
But you know, we've seen examples now. And this is
a headline from the New York Post. Ukraine deploys nine
thousand dollars robot dogs versus Russia, with plans to use
them as quote kamakazis unquote on the front lines. Yeah,
(03:01):
and you know that this article gets into a variety
of different uses. They have pictures of what I'm assuming
are Ukrainian soldiers with these robot dogs, which look like
something out of an X Files episode, or there is
a Black Mirror episode. For folks who haven't seen Black Mirror,
on Netflix. You know, there's a Black Mirror episode that
once you see this headline and watch it, you will
(03:23):
you will definitely see why there are concerns.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
But they watch that show.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I get it, Brian, I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So creepy real, and it's like a moment and it's
one moment in time ahead of where we are right now.
And that's what's so creepy about that show.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I am not gonna just what you're saying, but they've
got some photos and here are the dogs doing different things,
and they point out I've cost about nine thousand. Obviously,
can't train a soldier for nine thousand dollars, or field
a soldier and feed a soldier for nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Or get a soldier agree to kill harm reserves?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes, well exactly. I was in the Army of Reserves
for eight years back between eighty six and ninety two
as a combat engineer, So you know, I'm really familiar
with things like C four and landmines and such. And
when you think about and that's really old technology. You know,
we're going back almost forty years now. When you think
of modern land mines, modern explosives that may be much
(04:25):
more powerful than C four that I don't know about.
When you look at the size of one of these robots,
you could pack a substantial amount of C four or
other military grade explosive on one of these things and
just literally have it walk into a truck or a tank.
You know. Now, these don't go that fast at this point.
Their maximum speed is nine miles an hour. But what
human being can run nine miles an hour for any
(04:47):
extended period of time many, you know, so it's it's
pretty crazy when you think that. You know, in the
old days, you go back and think about World War
two or something like that, you have a machine gun nest, right, yeah,
and you know you've got to fight the guys and
try to take them out, hand grenades, you know, obviously
a variety of different weapons. But here you could just
(05:09):
have one of these things walk right into it, and
depending on how heavily armored it is and how good
of a shot you are, I mean, obviously, if you
hit this with enough rounds, it's probably not going to survive.
But this is the first generation of this stuff. You know,
it does not look heavily armored, and obviously that would
weigh it down and make it you waste more battery
life because according to this article, these things only run
(05:30):
about five hours. But it just it shows you the
potential future of these sorts of weapons and warn No,
I know there's other articles out there about the Army
testing robot tanks. And you know, you've got drones. I
think drones obviously in my mind are a type of robot.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
They've got drone boats tom Cozi's that blow up ships
in the shipping line over in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, it's And I saw another article which I didn't
send you this morning apparently and again you know, I
always like to try to fact check this stuff as
much as I can, but apparently the Ukrainians have used
some sort of drone with a flamethrower on it. Now.
So yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If you can imagine it, it's real. I mean, that's
where we are. If you can just imagine it, it
probably is a reality out there somewhere behind the scenes,
just coming to a theater near you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, even if it's not in public, Yes, it's probably
in a lab somewhere. There's a greed.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know, it's real quick here because you get right.
I watched the drone display the EBN fireworks, thousand drones
flying in synchronicity, And the thing that struck me is like,
holy crap, this is a I could write a check
and pay for that myself. Like, if I had enough money,
I could hire the company. If it's a private company
that does this. Right, absolutely, they have the technology to
perform that kind of intricate ballet in the sky with
(06:51):
a thousand different drones. Can you imagine what the military
tick can do. It's just frightening stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, we'll come back. We'll talk about employment scams as
well as Apple and why are they promoting Chinese communist parties?
Spyware apps six forty two, Fify Doctor City talkstation. You
can find Dave and his crew Dave Adterscrew interest it
dot com. Thank you for sponsoring this important segment. Which
way you want to go? You want to go Chinese
Communist party or employment scams?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Why don't we do employment scams next?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think this is such an important topic and if
you just go do a quick search on this, right,
So I hit duck dot go. I did a quick
search on job scams, and I mean they're just pages
and pages of information. Let me give you a couple
of headlines here, and then we'll delve into some specifics.
The FTC says how to spot the latest job scams.
The FBI has reported on this the Better Business Bureau
(07:44):
Job Scam Alert, how to spot a job scam. Indeed,
a job hosting site right says ten signs of job posting,
maybe a scam. NBC says job scam searched one hundred
and eighteen percent, and twenty twenty three aided by ai
In has a similar headline. And then Money Magazine common
job scams and how to avoid them. That's just just
(08:06):
me scanning what I found on a simple search, Okay,
And I bring this up because I think this is
not news to anyone listening. The job market is not good.
It's getting worse rapidly from everything I've read, and I
know many people who are looking for jobs and struggling
mightily at this time. So I wanted to raise this
point because I know people are looking for jobs, and
(08:28):
I know the market is tough, and scammers, unfortunately, as
we've discussed so many times, Brian will go wherever people are.
These people are creative and devious, and they will steal
your information and or your money any possible way. So
I want to warn people while obviously keep looking for
a job. I just think it's so despicable that there
(08:50):
are scammers out there who would want to hit someone
when they're already down. I mean, how would you feel
and what impact would that have on you and your
family if you're already in financial trouble because you can't
find a job and now you have people stealing your
money and stealing your information and perhaps your identity as
a result. I mean, it's just absolutely despicable. So you know,
(09:12):
whether it's something like search engine poisoning, We've talked about
this before. People need to understand that the bad guys
will spend some moderate amount of money, some nominal amount
of money to go post a job on Indeed or
Monster or Dice or any job board they'll buy. They'll
use search engine optimization techniques and buy sponsored ads. So
when you search for something, what shows up on a
(09:33):
search engine like Google or Being or a start page
or Duck DUCKG or whatever is fake. Because they know
the average person doesn't know search engine poisoning is a thing, right,
They think that because things show up in a search engine,
they must be legit ye, or they show up on
a job board, they must be legit, and it's critical
to understand it. Just because something shows up in a search,
(09:54):
or just because a job is posted to a legitimate
job site doesn't mean there isn't a scammer behind it. Right,
everything is easy to spoof. These people are smart. They
know that average folks don't understand how these things work.
So you know real quick, because I know what are
out of time, I encourage people, and I'll post this
in my notes on Twitter and LinkedIn and so forth.
(10:15):
If you just look at the the ND ten signs
of job posting maybe fake or the FTC's guidance, there's
some great tips there that help you kind of wrap
your head around what to look out for. The number
one obviously being if it's too good to be true,
it probably is. Yeah. Hey, if you suddenly get an
unsolicited email from a quote recruiter or headhunter unquote and
(10:37):
they want to offer you a three hundred thousand dollars
a year remote job working four hours a day, hey
guess what?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Probably scam I'm going to go with. Definitely a scam.
Not a week goes by, I don't get an opportunity
to represent someone. Are you interested in doing some legal work?
I'm like, oh god, you know a delete, just delete delete, delete,
delete delete.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, you know, healthy death, skepticism and paranoia goes a
long long way in this stuff. And you know, if
they want you to pay upfront for training, product or
something and then you're going to reimburse you, almost a
guaranteed scam. You know, if the recruiter quote unquote wants
you to pay upfront, you know, I want to remind people,
(11:19):
almost all legitimate recruiters get paid by the employer who
wants to hire you when you're placed, and they have
an incentive to help you get the largest salary possible
because they're getting paid a percentage of your starting salary.
So again, the FTC has a bunch of tips, The
Federal Trade Commission FBI has information that's indeed paid with
(11:40):
the ten tips. And I'll wink all this stuff. So
you know, if you are someone you know as looking
for a job, your kids, your grandkids, your family, there
are plenty of resources out there that will help arm
them so that they can make smart decisions, because again,
looking for jobs online, that's the way this stuff works. Now.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Obviously, good Land mind, land mind literally everywhere.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Everywhere, everywhere, all right, But beware, folks.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Beware Chinese Communist Party being helped out by Apple.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Apparently. We'll talk about that next with Dave Hatter six two.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
If you have carc Detalk station, Dave Hatter's gonna tell
us about the Chinese spyware app being promoted by Apple.
What's the story on this one? I thought Apple was
supposed to be one of the good guys out there, Dave.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, Apple generally is much more privacy and security friendly
than their competitors. And I'd just like to remind folks,
you know, all these big tech companies have their issues,
but when you look at Apple and Microsoft versus folks
like Google, Facebook, et cetera, their whole business model really
is different. Apple and Microsoft both sell you products, you know,
(12:44):
Apple both hardware and software, Microsoft mostly software. And ye,
folks can argue with me. Yeah, Google makes Pixel phones,
the Android operating system, so they do have some products.
Most of the money coming from Google is from your data,
same as meta slash Facebook. Right. Yeah, So I think
this is an interesting take and I'm glad someone is
raising the concern about this. It gets back to these
(13:07):
Chinese apps. You and I have talked about before, namely
TikTok for a long time and the privacy concerns and
propaganda concerns around TikTok. But this guy is an attorney.
It's article is written by Joel Thayer, and it's in
the Hill Again. I'll post the link. I encourage people
to go read it for themselves. This guy apparently is
the president of the Digital Progress Institute institute and a
(13:28):
tech and telecom lawyer in DC, and he makes some
interesting points, really going back to the fact that at
the end of the day, if a company is based
out of China, it's controlled by the People's Republic of
China and the Chinese Communist Party, who have some very
onerous laws in general and specifically around data collection and privacy.
(13:50):
And he states in here. So I'm going to read
directly from the article. For instance, China's twenty fifteen National
Security Law compels locally employed Chinese nationals of American companies
to assist investigations that may expose operating elements of American
companies with citizens. China's twenty twenty one cyber Vulnerability Reporting
Law requires Chinese based companies to report security flaws to
(14:10):
the Chinese government so they can quote exploit system flaws
before cyber vulnerabilities are publicly known unquote. And then you know,
he goes on with some other laws. You know, twenty
seventeen National Intelligence Law creates a legal obligation for those
entities to turn over data collected abroad and domestically to
the Chinese government, So that twenty twenty one cyber Vulnerability
(14:30):
Reporting Law basically in Layman's term, says, if you, as
a Chinese national, become aware of a vulnerability and software,
you are required to report it to the Chinese government
so they can exploit it before this would be a
zero day exploit, before it can be fixed by the manufacturer.
That's essentially what that means. So his point, so his
(14:51):
point here is you have an app store, and this
is not exclusive to Apple. I think he put his
sites on Apple primarily because they are seen as more
privacy and security friendly. So when you look at it
through that lens, this is you know, even more problematic
than you know something like the Android store. But this
would have the same problems, right if the app originates
(15:11):
from a company controlled by a Chinese company or directly
from China, you can guarantee any and all data it collects.
And let me remind folks, go look at the Apple
app Store privacy label for TikTok or any app that
Tamu right has recently come in the crosshairs. It's a
Chinese shopping app similar to Amazon right and for a
(15:32):
lot of these same problems. Look at the privacy label
which is required by Apple to be in their store
and see what it collects. It's astounding, and most of
it is stuff they don't need to provide the service
they claim to provide. So, you know, he points out
in more detail later in here, you know some of
the issues with specific types of apps. But the bottom
line is if you're using an app that's controlled by
(15:54):
a Chinese company, they are collecting enormous amounts of data
about you and potentially using it as a propaganda tool
to push pro prc CCP narratives and to push anti American,
anti Western narratives, propaganda, spyware, et cetera. So again, this
is a theme that keeps coming up, right, and there
(16:16):
are many people who have now warned about this. It's
why we've seen the push for the TikTok ban there
are now people calling for bands on things like Tamu. Again,
I encourage people. There was a great article recently, I
can't remember the exact headline with something like Tamu is
a spyware app in your pocket and you know it
goes into detail around this Again, I'll wink all this
(16:37):
stuff so people can get more information, share with their
family members who might be using these things. I understand
the convenience. I understand that it's nice to get cheap
goods that will fall apart the first time you use them.
But you got to understand the larger psio ops, black ops,
propaganda aspects of these things. And even if that isn't
(16:58):
a concern to you, where you don't believe it, all
of your extremely sensitive data going to Chinese companies who
are controlled by the CCP and the PRC, who are
increasingly adversarial to all Western countries. Just look at what's
been going on in the Philippines recently with them ramming
Coast Guard and Philippine Coast Guard chips and so forth.
(17:19):
It's not good. There's nothing good that can come of
this for you using these apps.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Amen exclamation Point, interest It Dot commerce fund. David is cruf.
You have a company, you have computers, you need interest it.
Business Career says they're the best in the business. Thanks
for joining the program every Friday at six thirty. I
always enjoy our conversations. Obviously very informative and quite often frightening,
but you got to get the info out and I'm
glad we've got you to help us out. Dave hat Ter,
have a wonderful weekend, my friend. We'll talk next Friday.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Always my pleasure. Brian, have a great day and I'll
talk to you in
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