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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Coming on a seven oh five and fifty five KRCD
talk station, A very very heavy Monday to you. I've
been looking forward to this conversation since last Thursday. Had
a little bit of a hiccup last Thursday, not Stephanie
Perucci's falt little problems out of her hands, but better
late than never to talk with her about her book
Sound the Alarm, the Maui disaster that sparked a global awakening.
(00:21):
Stephanie's a founder and CEO of Prooch of Publishing, an
independent free speech publisher designed to elevate world consciousness through books.
International best selling book Burned Back, better described as exposing
the globalist playbook as it was manifested on Maui. This
same fire we're talking about here and Sound the Alarm,
the la Heena fire. Welcome back or welcome to the program, Stephanie.
(00:42):
It's a real pleasure to have you on the fifty
five CARC Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you so much for having me. It's great to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And the Lahina fire, a lot of my listeners will
remember it, and almost immediately after it happened, I started
hearing and allow me a little leeway, we can call
it what we want conspiracy theories about how the fire started,
how why buildings burned down and others didn't, and the
motivations behind it. You do refer to in the materials
as the scene of a crime, and that this fire
(01:11):
was allowed to happen. How, I guess I just set
the start with why, what is the why behind? I mean,
if we assume all of the above, why would they
want to burn down Lehina as opposed to any place
else in Hawaii or anywhere else for that matter.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's a great question. My first book explored exactly that.
It was called burn Back Better, and the proposal in
that book was that we had some very weird anomalies
around the burn. There were some extremely negligent behaviors by
every public official that we could find. We saw nobody
(01:53):
who really found a way to help the people. Water
was turned off, there were eighty alarms on the island
that didn't not just on Maui, that didn't go off
to warn people that there was an emergency. The power
was off, and self service was turned off early that morning,
even though they're blaming the electric companies, So with evidence,
(02:17):
you know, such as that, in addition to about one
hundred and fifty other very bizarre things that happened during
this fire. The only thing we could think is that
they're trying to grab just about the most beautiful piece
of land in the world. And the reason I think
it might have been Lahina is a few different things.
(02:38):
Number One, it had already been mapped out for a
smart you know, sustainable development. Okay, So the reason they
they incinerated Lahina, we suspect, is because it was a
working class town. They weren't incinerating multimillion dollar homes or hotels.
This was one of the last stretches of working class
(03:02):
community really on Nui, right on the ocean there, and
about twelve thousand people were displaced in Eighty six percent
of the twenty two hundred or so structures that were
burned were residential homes.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
All right. And you know, I've been to Hawaii, absolutely epic, beautiful,
and I've seen some of the multi gazillion dollar homes
that folks that have been building there over the years.
And the Hawaiians, the hereditary you know, born there and lived,
they viewed as a bit of an invasion. I think
there was one Hollywood movie star who sort of started
(03:40):
the trend back in the early seventies, and from that
point they all just view the whole places gone into
hell in a hands basket. But in terms of this
taking property, I did the residents of Lahaina own their
property because you know, I have the deed to my house,
it's paid off in full. You can burn it to
the ground intentionally your other wise, I'm still going to
(04:01):
own the land and no one can take that away
from me. How do you get around that challenge when
you're talking about, you know, the government coming in and
sort of redoing it and turning into one of these
sustainable fifteen minute cities.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know what happened in the Hinhas, the former capital
of the Kingdom of Hawaii. A lot of these homes
really were owned for generations, hundreds of years, and if
you were to walk inside of them, a lot of
them looked almost like museums of Hawaiian history, and they
(04:37):
were owned by these families. There was no bank that
got involved with a mortgage or anything like that. So
the properties were so sacred that there was no amount
of money that you could throw at these people to
sell because it was really, you know, almost its own
(05:00):
It almost had its own soul like a family member.
You just don't sure.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, I can understand that, but that I mean, I
guess in the final analysis though, again, disasters do happen,
and whether this was intentionally burned to the ground or
it just happened because you know, some woman's cow knocked
a lantern over in a barn, the property the property
(05:25):
still belongs to them, right, No.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Unfortunately, what happened three weeks before the fire and what's
happening still is there have been multiple pieces of legislation
aimed at the state having the ability to assume ownership
of land as it is destroyed by a disaster. So, curiously,
(05:50):
three weeks before the August eighth, twenty twenty three fire,
a resolution was signed into order. It was called an
emergency proc indicating that if there were a disaster, that
the state was going to rebuild sustainable you know, multifamily
(06:11):
homes over wherever that disaster had taken place. So this
emergency proclamation is detailed in my first book, Burned Back Better,
and in my second book, unfortunately, we detail another bill.
It's called Senate Bill thirty three eighty one, which is
(06:32):
supported of course by the Hawaii Community Foundation. A lot
of nefarious activity around that organization. And they proposed in
this bill that a group of nine people selected by
the governor would be in charge of determining what the
(06:55):
rebuilt looks like. And not only the four or five
miles that burned in Mahina would be would be part
of this redevelopment plan, but the entire west side of Maui,
it almost on a map, looks like it's home little island.
(07:16):
So we're talking businesses and homes that were not even
close to the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Fair enough. Now, that sounds to me like a takings
clause situation. So if the government wants to, you know,
condemn my land for the purposes of a broader, you know,
public works project, they can do that, but they got
to pay me for it. So are these folks being
paid if this is sort of analogous to a takings
claw situation.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, there was nothing in the bill that indicated people
would be paid. There has been a scapegoat for the fire,
which is the electric company Hawaiian Electric or he Coke.
The Hawaiian Electric is supposedly going to pay out about
two billion of four billion that they are responsible to
(08:10):
pay out starting this spring. Two people who lost their homes. However,
Senate Bill thirty three eighty one never indicated that the
land would be purchased, but that it would that everything
would just kind of for all intents and purposes, government's
going to declare eminent domain. They're going to decide what
you do. And that was why Senator Kurt Favell in
(08:36):
particular fought really hard against that bill. Now, there were
cultural ambassadors and organizations in Hawaii who supposedly are working
for the people and Hawaiian but on their board there
are people involved in tourism, banking, and even Disney resorts.
(08:57):
So a lot of high powered ex executives want this
state to grab that land because it's going to be
very profitable if they turn it into a little miniature
Las Vegas or Disney World.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And going back to your point about
people being very protective of these very historic comes, I won't,
you know, over my dead body while I sell it
to Disney, and I don't care how much money they
come at me. With this fire provides a convenient mechanism
to bring that about in the face of all the
stone walling. If I can use that term that the
people might add. Now, is there currently litigation over this.
(09:33):
I mean, I'm a litigation attorney by trade and was
in the courtroom for you know, sixteen years, and this
sounds to me like it's right for someone to file
suit and make these challenges like you know, compensation, private property,
the takings clause, and of course civil action against the
power company the extent it is personally responsible for the
(09:53):
fire happening in the first place.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
We don't think the power company was responded, but at
this time they're the only real escapeboat scapegoat that has
been found guilty of anything. And the problem with people
getting money for the for the property is the fact
that for some reason, usually under the excuse that it
(10:26):
was dangerous to go into the burn zone, even though
the town was leveled, nothing was going to fall on you,
it was just ash, but the insurance adjusters were not
allowed into the burn zone. So at this time, even today,
over I guess, sixteen months after the fire, people are
(10:50):
still paying mortgages on the homes they lost because insurance
adjusters haven't been able to get in there, and the
term and properties are lost, and even more sadly, only
one home is being rebuilt at this time. The people
(11:10):
absolutely don't know how to fight to get the permits
required to rebuild. And when they do get permits, it
doesn't look like they're going to rebuild the homes that
they once had. It looks like they're going to be
required to have so many easements and underground utilities that
it would just be untenable, very extensive to live on
(11:34):
Maui or anywhere in Hawaii really in.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
The first place, Well, pretty much is pretty much is anyway.
I mean, it's a finite amount of absolutely epic, gorgeous land.
Of course, the laws of supply and demand being what
they are. I mean, when my wife and I were there,
like god, it would be great to live here. Look
how much beauty you're surrounded by all the time. And
of course that's why property is increases in value. Well,
(11:58):
I guess you know, it's a maybe what we need
to do in terms of getting people to have their
property assessed. Stephanie Perucci, one of the authors of Sound
the Alarm Them All I disaster this sparked global awakening.
How about some of the drones that are flying around
New Jersey, Maybe get a couple of drones of flying
around there and survey of the property. You don't need
to be on the ground subject to something falling on
you that's not there in order to do an atdequate
(12:18):
survey of the property.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Just the thought a thought. Well. One of the reasons
we wrote the first one of the reasons I actually
wrote the first book Burned Back Better, was because there
were one or two really intrepid sort of citizen journalists
who were flying around with drones. If it weren't for
these guys, especially a man named Eric West on YouTube
(12:44):
Hawaii real Estate, if he weren't flying around with the drone,
we wouldn't even have an idea of what went on
inside the burn zone because they built a dust stream
sence the day after fire that was I think two
and a half miles between two and a half and
(13:06):
five miles long, so no one could even look in
to see what happened in that area. A lot of
the footage that we have was taken by people who
were stuck in the fire, and maybe they hid in
a parking garage or something like that and they kind
of walked out in the morning, But most people in
(13:29):
that burn area didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Wow, well, a lot to consume here, and I could
go on for probably a couple of hours talking with you.
But we're all going to just read the book and
find out about it. Sound the Alarm, The Maley Disaster
of the Spark Global Awakening by one of the authors,
Stephanie Perucci, along with Shane Buell and Tracy Derwin. And
you can also read the prior book by Stephanie burn
Back Better Lahaina, The Perfect Storm or a Perfect Crime
(13:54):
question Mark. It's been great having you on. I'm glad
we're able to get you back on, Stephanie, and interesting
I'm gonna going on here, and it seems to me
again the litigation attorney in me seems to think that somehow,
some way this is going to all end up being
in court and subject to a much closer and thorough investigation.
Thanks for writing the book. We'll share that book on
(14:14):
my blog page at fifty five cars dot com so
folks can easily get a copy of it. Stephanie
Coming on a seven oh five and fifty five KRCD
talk station, A very very heavy Monday to you. I've
been looking forward to this conversation since last Thursday. Had
a little bit of a hiccup last Thursday, not Stephanie
Perucci's falt little problems out of her hands, but better
late than never to talk with her about her book
Sound the Alarm, the Maui disaster that sparked a global awakening.
(00:21):
Stephanie's a founder and CEO of Prooch of Publishing, an
independent free speech publisher designed to elevate world consciousness through books.
International best selling book Burned Back, better described as exposing
the globalist playbook as it was manifested on Maui. This
same fire we're talking about here and Sound the Alarm,
the la Heena fire. Welcome back or welcome to the program, Stephanie.
(00:42):
It's a real pleasure to have you on the fifty
five CARC Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you so much for having me. It's great to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And the Lahina fire, a lot of my listeners will
remember it, and almost immediately after it happened, I started
hearing and allow me a little leeway, we can call
it what we want conspiracy theories about how the fire started,
how why buildings burned down and others didn't, and the
motivations behind it. You do refer to in the materials
as the scene of a crime, and that this fire
(01:11):
was allowed to happen. How, I guess I just set
the start with why, what is the why behind? I mean,
if we assume all of the above, why would they
want to burn down Lehina as opposed to any place
else in Hawaii or anywhere else for that matter.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's a great question. My first book explored exactly that.
It was called burn Back Better, and the proposal in
that book was that we had some very weird anomalies
around the burn. There were some extremely negligent behaviors by
every public official that we could find. We saw nobody
(01:53):
who really found a way to help the people. Water
was turned off, there were eighty alarms on the island
that didn't not just on Maui, that didn't go off
to warn people that there was an emergency. The power
was off, and self service was turned off early that morning,
even though they're blaming the electric companies, So with evidence,
(02:17):
you know, such as that, in addition to about one
hundred and fifty other very bizarre things that happened during
this fire. The only thing we could think is that
they're trying to grab just about the most beautiful piece
of land in the world. And the reason I think
it might have been Lahina is a few different things.
(02:38):
Number One, it had already been mapped out for a
smart you know, sustainable development. Okay, So the reason they
they incinerated Lahina, we suspect, is because it was a
working class town. They weren't incinerating multimillion dollar homes or hotels.
This was one of the last stretches of working class
(03:02):
community really on Nui, right on the ocean there, and
about twelve thousand people were displaced in Eighty six percent
of the twenty two hundred or so structures that were
burned were residential homes.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
All right. And you know, I've been to Hawaii, absolutely epic, beautiful,
and I've seen some of the multi gazillion dollar homes
that folks that have been building there over the years.
And the Hawaiians, the hereditary you know, born there and lived,
they viewed as a bit of an invasion. I think
there was one Hollywood movie star who sort of started
(03:40):
the trend back in the early seventies, and from that
point they all just view the whole places gone into
hell in a hands basket. But in terms of this
taking property, I did the residents of Lahaina own their
property because you know, I have the deed to my house,
it's paid off in full. You can burn it to
the ground intentionally your other wise, I'm still going to
(04:01):
own the land and no one can take that away
from me. How do you get around that challenge when
you're talking about, you know, the government coming in and
sort of redoing it and turning into one of these
sustainable fifteen minute cities.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know what happened in the Hinhas, the former capital
of the Kingdom of Hawaii. A lot of these homes
really were owned for generations, hundreds of years, and if
you were to walk inside of them, a lot of
them looked almost like museums of Hawaiian history, and they
(04:37):
were owned by these families. There was no bank that
got involved with a mortgage or anything like that. So
the properties were so sacred that there was no amount
of money that you could throw at these people to
sell because it was really, you know, almost its own
(05:00):
It almost had its own soul like a family member.
You just don't sure.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, I can understand that, but that I mean, I
guess in the final analysis though, again, disasters do happen,
and whether this was intentionally burned to the ground or
it just happened because you know, some woman's cow knocked
a lantern over in a barn, the property the property
(05:25):
still belongs to them, right, No.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Unfortunately, what happened three weeks before the fire and what's
happening still is there have been multiple pieces of legislation
aimed at the state having the ability to assume ownership
of land as it is destroyed by a disaster. So, curiously,
(05:50):
three weeks before the August eighth, twenty twenty three fire,
a resolution was signed into order. It was called an
emergency proc indicating that if there were a disaster, that
the state was going to rebuild sustainable you know, multifamily
(06:11):
homes over wherever that disaster had taken place. So this
emergency proclamation is detailed in my first book, Burned Back Better,
and in my second book, unfortunately, we detail another bill.
It's called Senate Bill thirty three eighty one, which is
(06:32):
supported of course by the Hawaii Community Foundation. A lot
of nefarious activity around that organization. And they proposed in
this bill that a group of nine people selected by
the governor would be in charge of determining what the
(06:55):
rebuilt looks like. And not only the four or five
miles that burned in Mahina would be would be part
of this redevelopment plan, but the entire west side of Maui,
it almost on a map, looks like it's home little island.
(07:16):
So we're talking businesses and homes that were not even
close to the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Fair enough. Now, that sounds to me like a takings
clause situation. So if the government wants to, you know,
condemn my land for the purposes of a broader, you know,
public works project, they can do that, but they got
to pay me for it. So are these folks being
paid if this is sort of analogous to a takings
claw situation.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, there was nothing in the bill that indicated people
would be paid. There has been a scapegoat for the fire,
which is the electric company Hawaiian Electric or he Coke.
The Hawaiian Electric is supposedly going to pay out about
two billion of four billion that they are responsible to
(08:10):
pay out starting this spring. Two people who lost their homes. However,
Senate Bill thirty three eighty one never indicated that the
land would be purchased, but that it would that everything
would just kind of for all intents and purposes, government's
going to declare eminent domain. They're going to decide what
you do. And that was why Senator Kurt Favell in
(08:36):
particular fought really hard against that bill. Now, there were
cultural ambassadors and organizations in Hawaii who supposedly are working
for the people and Hawaiian but on their board there
are people involved in tourism, banking, and even Disney resorts.
(08:57):
So a lot of high powered ex executives want this
state to grab that land because it's going to be
very profitable if they turn it into a little miniature
Las Vegas or Disney World.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And going back to your point about
people being very protective of these very historic comes, I won't,
you know, over my dead body while I sell it
to Disney, and I don't care how much money they
come at me. With this fire provides a convenient mechanism
to bring that about in the face of all the
stone walling. If I can use that term that the
people might add. Now, is there currently litigation over this.
(09:33):
I mean, I'm a litigation attorney by trade and was
in the courtroom for you know, sixteen years, and this
sounds to me like it's right for someone to file
suit and make these challenges like you know, compensation, private property,
the takings clause, and of course civil action against the
power company the extent it is personally responsible for the
(09:53):
fire happening in the first place.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
We don't think the power company was responded, but at
this time they're the only real escapeboat scapegoat that has
been found guilty of anything. And the problem with people
getting money for the for the property is the fact
that for some reason, usually under the excuse that it
(10:26):
was dangerous to go into the burn zone, even though
the town was leveled, nothing was going to fall on you,
it was just ash, but the insurance adjusters were not
allowed into the burn zone. So at this time, even today,
over I guess, sixteen months after the fire, people are
(10:50):
still paying mortgages on the homes they lost because insurance
adjusters haven't been able to get in there, and the
term and properties are lost, and even more sadly, only
one home is being rebuilt at this time. The people
(11:10):
absolutely don't know how to fight to get the permits
required to rebuild. And when they do get permits, it
doesn't look like they're going to rebuild the homes that
they once had. It looks like they're going to be
required to have so many easements and underground utilities that
it would just be untenable, very extensive to live on
(11:34):
Maui or anywhere in Hawaii really in.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
The first place, Well, pretty much is pretty much is anyway.
I mean, it's a finite amount of absolutely epic, gorgeous land.
Of course, the laws of supply and demand being what
they are. I mean, when my wife and I were there,
like god, it would be great to live here. Look
how much beauty you're surrounded by all the time. And
of course that's why property is increases in value. Well,
(11:58):
I guess you know, it's a maybe what we need
to do in terms of getting people to have their
property assessed. Stephanie Perucci, one of the authors of Sound
the Alarm Them All I disaster this sparked global awakening.
How about some of the drones that are flying around
New Jersey, Maybe get a couple of drones of flying
around there and survey of the property. You don't need
to be on the ground subject to something falling on
you that's not there in order to do an atdequate
(12:18):
survey of the property.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Just the thought a thought. Well. One of the reasons
we wrote the first one of the reasons I actually
wrote the first book Burned Back Better, was because there
were one or two really intrepid sort of citizen journalists
who were flying around with drones. If it weren't for
these guys, especially a man named Eric West on YouTube
(12:44):
Hawaii real Estate, if he weren't flying around with the drone,
we wouldn't even have an idea of what went on
inside the burn zone because they built a dust stream
sence the day after fire that was I think two
and a half miles between two and a half and
(13:06):
five miles long, so no one could even look in
to see what happened in that area. A lot of
the footage that we have was taken by people who
were stuck in the fire, and maybe they hid in
a parking garage or something like that and they kind
of walked out in the morning, But most people in
(13:29):
that burn area didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Wow, well, a lot to consume here, and I could
go on for probably a couple of hours talking with you.
But we're all going to just read the book and
find out about it. Sound the Alarm, The Maley Disaster
of the Spark Global Awakening by one of the authors,
Stephanie Perucci, along with Shane Buell and Tracy Derwin. And
you can also read the prior book by Stephanie burn
Back Better Lahaina, The Perfect Storm or a Perfect Crime
(13:54):
question Mark. It's been great having you on. I'm glad
we're able to get you back on, Stephanie, and interesting
I'm gonna going on here, and it seems to me
again the litigation attorney in me seems to think that somehow,
some way this is going to all end up being
in court and subject to a much closer and thorough investigation.
Thanks for writing the book. We'll share that book on
(14:14):
my blog page at fifty five cars dot com so
folks can easily get a copy of it. Stephanie
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