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It is big announcement day inthese parts, y'all.
But first, I have a littlestory for you.
Welcome to ADHD SmartSolutions for Holistic Women with
Christine McCarroll.
I'm Christine and this is thespot to learn natural strategies
for supporting your ADHD brain.
As a woman with all thehormonal curveballs and unique challenges
that only females face, I'vemade it my mission to uncover the
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root causes and little knownsupports for your ADHD brain that
your doctor doesn't know andwon't tell you.
Learn the truth and find your focus.
No prescription required.
Okay, so my story is actuallya story.
It's a tale of two conferences.
So I am, I am recently backfrom the 2024.
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I'm probably going to get theorder of the words wrong here, but
the International Conferenceon adhd and this was my first time
attending this particularconference, so I didn't really know
what to expect going in.
I go to a lot of conferencesactually, but I had never been to
one on adhd and I was, I wastrying to explain to my husband yesterday
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when I got home just what wasdifferent and kind of like what my
experience was.
And I think it did clarify forme a little bit to describe it to
him.
And so I'm going to hopefullyhave a little more clarity when I'm
describing this to you guys today.
So the two conferences I'mgoing to talk about, I'm going to
talk about that one that Ijust got back from and then another
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conference that I went to acouple of months ago that is actually
one I go to every single yearor I have for many years.
So I'm going to talk aboutthat one first.
So that conference is aconference that I actually love going
to.
It is, a lot of my friends go there.
I have colleagues, friends,people I know.
It is top voices in theindustry of holistic and functional
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medicine.
So a lot of different peoplewho are, are kind of leaders in this
field and I love it for that reason.
And it's really about how we,how we grow our voice in the world,
right?
So, you know, still in this,in this modern world, we are in like
traditional conventionalpractice is still what most people
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are familiar with.
And we're kind of this, youknow, this rabble rouser group of
people who are doing things alittle bit differently but really
successfully.
Like the people in this groupare successful authors, they are
successful practitioners, theyhave programs and books and, you
know, just a lot to offer.
And so I always feel reallyenergized from that conference.
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But the last time I had gonebefore this year, so I guess a little
more than a year ago was thefirst time I was really being.
I had really changed fromdoing like strictly women's health
to in my functional nutritionpractice, to doing work more specifically
for women with adhd.
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And as I was going throughthat conference, and I think I did
tell this story on the podcastpreviously, as I was telling people
this in this wonderful forwardthinking group of people, I was still
getting a lot of kind of thisvibe of like that doesn't exist.
And maybe nobody said that tome exactly outright and maybe they
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didn't want to say it to mebecause I just said that's what I
was doing.
But it was definitely thisvibe of like, if we look at all of
the underlying factors, whichby the way, still believe in that
really important, that's a lotof the work that I do here.
But if we just look atunderlying factors, it like this
almost is like a made upthing, right?
Like there isn't actuallyanything different about an ADHD
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brain.
It's just that there's all ofthese underlying factors that haven't
been addressed.
And you guys, I 1000% believein these underlying factors.
This is the work that I do andthis is the work that I've seen change
lives, it's changed my life,has changed my daughter's life.
Um, so many other people, youknow, that I work with and, and so
of course I believe in this.
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But I also, I, I know becauseI've seen the brain scans and I have
experienced it and I've livedit and I talked to other people that
ADHD is an actual, it's anactual condition, right?
And it's.
I don't even know if I likethat word condition, but I guess
it's the best one I have here.
But it's absolutely a brain difference.
So this is the way that mybrain works and this is the way that
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a lot of other people's brains work.
And again, we can, I canactually look at brain scans and
I can look at genetic data,like lots of it, and we can point
to what those differences are.
So to deny that there aredevelopmental, neuro or, sorry, neurodevelopmental
differences is like, to meit's just like you're completely
turning a blind eye and it'sactually really, like, it's really
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short sighted, but sointeresting on the flip side.
So for all of those reasons, Iwas really frustrated and this year
it was actually better.
I did feel like I had maybethere's just more conversation in
the world.
I didn't get, like, directpushback, and I felt a little bit
more confident also in myconversations and what I was sharing.
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And so, you know, there was alittle bit of a difference this year.
But the part of the reason whyI love this conference so much is
because it's kind of my peoplein the sense that this is all the
work that I do.
And we all do very similar work.
So when we speak the language,we all speak kind of the similar
language of what we do, whatwe understand of what's happening
with physiology, with.
With the biology of humans, right?
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And that's great.
That is fantastic.
I love it.
And at the same time, I thinkwhat that can create is sort of an
echo chamber.
And an echo chamber, meaningthat when a lot of voices are saying
the same thing, there isn'tmaybe room for.
For new ideas, or maybe ittakes a little bit of time for new
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ideas to come in or to acceptsomething that.
Outside of the realm of ideasin that group.
So that was my experience withthis other conference.
And so now I go to this ADHD conference.
And I was actually expecting.
And I did find this, but I wasexpecting, like, okay, like, for
real, these are my people, right?
So the other one was like,these are my people professionally.
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Like, these are the people whounderstand the kind of work that
I do.
They understand how I see theworld as far as, like, brain health
and, you know, biochemistryand even, you know, hormones and
how do women's hormones impactour brains and our physiology and,
like, all of this stuff.
So that was great.
And.
And I was expecting my peoplein the ADHD world to be like, okay,
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we all get it.
We all get what it's like tolive in the body and the brain of.
Of someone who has adhd, right?
So I was going to, you know,I'm like, okay, this is fantastic,
because all of these peopleare going to understand that experience.
And absolutely that was true.
So I was surrounded by peoplewho understand this experience intimately.
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We all get what it's like tohave an ADHD brain, which was phenomenal.
I was so grateful for that.
And also just the acceptancelevel of things.
Like, you know, we had somegreat presenters and people, but
still, like, one of thekeynotes, and I put a picture up
on my Instagram if you want togo check it out, was Pen Holderness.
So if you guys do not know theHolderness family, you should.
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I feel like I have a couplecrush on Pen and Kim Holderness because
he talks about having Adhd andshe talks about having or experiencing.
And like, that's exactly thetwo biggest things that impact my
life right now.
So I just love them.
I love them as a couple.
I love their content.
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I think they're fantastic.
And so Pen was one of thekeynote speakers, and he was talking
about his experience and hislife experience and also a book he
wrote last year, I believe itwas last year, maybe it came out
earlier this year, called ADHDis Awesome.
And he comes up to the stageand he tells us that he was supposed
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to have all of his notes on aniPad and that he had left his iPad
on the plane.
And just like, the wholeauditorium burst out into laughter
because, of course, like, weall get it.
We understand exactly whatit's like to have forgotten something.
And that just happened overand over again throughout the weekend.
Like, someone forgot theirpapers or someone admitted to us
that they were, you know,finalizing their presentation, you
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know, five minutes before it started.
Just so, so many things that,like, we all just were so accepting
of our presenters, of eachother, of just understanding, like,
you know, what it's like tolive with, with this kind of brain.
So that was really lovely.
But what was so fascinating tome is the two biggest areas that
I talk about in, on thispodcast and in my life and my practice
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and the work that I do werereally not very much discussed at
all at this conference.
And those two things were,what's different for women?
And specifically thinkingabout, like, women's hormones and
hormone balance and what isthat doing to our.
Our ADHD brains and anythingto do with nutrition or, like, natural
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health in any way whatsoever.
And there was.
There was one.
There were two conversations.
One was like a peer group for.
For women.
And I actually was so exhausted.
It was the end of the firstday and it was like at 8:00 at night,
which is just too late for this.
This old lady, you guys.
So I just went to bed and.
But the next one I went to wassupposed to be a town hall and it
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ended up being a film viewing.
So it was someone who had, youknow, a woman who had made a film
about.
It was called Trying reallygreat film, actually like a little
short film about having adhd.
And I loved the film, but itwasn't actually actually like a town
hall as I had expected.
It was more just like shehappened to be a woman and she happened
to have adhd.
But it wasn't necessarily likethe overlap of what those two things
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meant.
And I was just.
I was kind of stunned,actually, that there Was this like
complete void where thereshould have been a voice about women
having ADHD and how that is adifferent experience and what is
different for us.
So it came up a couple timeskind of in passing, but really no
focus on that whatsoever.
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And then the second thingbeing like anything nutritional.
And so two things about that.
The first thing is they had a.
If you've ever been to aconference, there's always this like,
they called it a discoveryhall, but it's just like an area
where there are people whohave, you know, like, service offerings
or products or, you know, justlike vendors basically.
And there were a pretty goodnumber of vendors in there that were
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pharmaceutical.
And a lot of the, A lot of thesponsors for the events were also
pharmaceutical representatives.
Now there were a couple ofpeople, like there was a company
that sells a multivitamin,which is fantastic.
So I was happy to see that.
But like, really thepredominant message was was medication
only.
And as I've shared on thispodcast before, I mean, the first
thing is, you know, you guysare listening to a podcast called
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like Holistic Strategy.
So I, I know that I'm nottalking to necessarily, you know,
people who are only interestedin taking medication, but the other
thing is, you know, up to 30%of people can't take medication for
various reasons.
And so again, like just awhole, a whole group of people here
who are underserved.
Um, and then nothing reallyabout nutrition.
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Now there was one conversationon the last day, it was the last
presentation on the last day.
So of course I went and it wasjust like, you know, nutrition on
an adhd, and it was presentedby a dietitian, and it was a very
like, conventionally skeweddietetics approach.
And, and I'm actually notgonna, I'm not gonna crap on her
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presentation because, youknow, she had a lot of things that
I would, I would agree with.
So, you know, she was talkingabout the value of vitamins and minerals.
She did allude to gut health.
You know, she's talking aboutgetting a whole foods based diet.
And of course I'm going toagree with all of those things.
She was talking a little bitmore about some things like, you
know, overlap with eatingdisorders, the importance of, you
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know, incorporating a widevariety of foods and that, that can
be a challenge with, you know,an ADHD brain.
So all of that was reallygood, but it was a really broad and
not like, there was just a lotmissing, I guess, is what I'm gonna
say.
And so, you know, so what Iwas experiencing in this in this
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conference was no nuancearound women and not very much about
underlying biology and what Icall the hardware.
Right.
So a lot of people there,therapists and coaches and educators,
which is, again, fantastic.
And I went to somepresentations that, you know, were
about strategies that Iactually found helpful.
Like I was personally also Iwas going to like, understand what
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are strategies I can use.
And that was all really helpful.
But the way I've describedthis, and I'm actually, I'm trying
to remember if I've everdescribed it on this, on this podcast,
because I've guested on a lotof podcasts recently and I share
this concept and I don't knowif I've ever shared it here.
So I'm just going to do that now.
And, you know, it'll just be arefresh if you've heard it before.
But, you know, I think aboutthings like coaching and therapy
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and other strategies and tipsand tricks and tools and software
and all those cool thingsthat's like this.
That is the software, right?
That is the software for your brain.
And what I'm talking about isyour physical health of your brain.
And that's the hardware.
So this is like if you weretrying to load the Latest, you know,
iOS operating system onto aMac 2e from the 80s, it's just not
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going to work as well, right?
So even if you have the verylatest software but your hardware
is outdated, it's, it's, it'snot going to be as good of a match
as it can be even if you havethe very best new software.
And that is, that is why I amso focused on brain health as being
critical and essential formental health, because you cannot
have one without the other.
We have to talk about brain health.
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So in any case, that's what Ithink was completely missing.
And it's just, it was sointeresting to be on two sides of
the spectrum in the, in thelast couple of months, where one
side of the spectrum wascompletely just like hardware based
and almost like disregardingthat anything else could be going
on.
And then the other side, likecompletely software based and really
not talking about the hardware.
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And I'm like, okay, y'all, wehave got to get together.
We have to have a bridge here.
And clearly that's where Ifeel like my voice is.
That's where I'm trying to putmy voice.
It's what I feel like is necessary.
And it was just highlighted tome how necessary that is.
And probably I'm going to beputting a proposal together to talk
at this conference next year,so stay tuned for that.
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All right, so all of thatbeing said, now it is big reveal
day and that is what I wassharing at the beginning.
So I wanted to kind of giveyou some background.
But you know, part of this bigreveal is that piece of me thinking
like, how can we have a betterfeeling brain?
And so what I've been talkingabout is, you know, me working on
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this supplement for the lastlike probably around seven months.
And it, you know, reallystarted as something that I was developing
for myself and for my kiddo.
And it started as justseparate things that we were taking
as individual products to beable to help our brains feel better.
So last time I was talkingabout the first ingredient that I
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want to highlight, which isthe amino acid theanine.
And today I'm going to talkabout the other two ingredients.
And there actually are onlythree ingredients in this product.
And there are only threeingredients for an important reason.
So the reason why there areonly three ingredients in here is
I actually think that a lot ofpeople have trouble with a lot of
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ingredients that are in a lotof the like combination products
that I've seen.
And one of the things that issuper jacked up in a lot of those
products is B12.
Now B vitamins are superimportant and we do need B vitamins
as co factors for conversionof a lot of different things, including
including neurotransmitters inour brains.
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Like B12, for example, is partof, you know, the structure for,
or helping us to create thestructure for neurotransmitters for
neurological function, for nerves.
So all of this is incredibly important.
But a lot of times theseproducts that are looking to kind
of promote energy, I'm a kindof air quote energy, are using ridiculous
amounts of B vitamins and inparticular B12 and also often the
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wrong forms or a form thatwouldn't work for somebody who has
a genetic predisposition tonot convert that very well.
So you know, it's not just amatter always of getting a particular
nutrient, but it is the form,form of the nutrient.
And then it's also like ourbody's ability to convert that into
the appropriate form once it'sinside of our, our systems.
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So a lot of pe.
A lot of products for focusinclude a lot of that.
And I think it's a problem.
I myself had have trieddifferent things that had a lot of
B12 or specific forms of B12that really left me feeling really
like jittery and wired.
And that isn't the kind ofenergy that I'm looking for, like
I'm already internally very restless.
You might not know it lookingfrom the outside, but certainly internally
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I can be extremely restless.
And so the last thing I neededwas something to, to jack me up and
make me feel more restless.
And then a lot of times thereare just other super stimulating
ingredients, a lot ofdifferent botanicals.
And again, I love some ofthese things individually.
It's just that when you putin, you know, eight different ingredients,
if you don't react well to oneof those eight ingredients, you're
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not going to feel very great.
And also you're not going toknow what the thing was that didn't,
it didn't work for you.
So I was really, you know,really focused on making something
that would just be to supporta good feeling brain without having
a whole bunch of stuff thatwould kind of like be this, this
jackup a formulation.
So the other two ingredients,so besides theanine, so what I, what
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I described to you last timeis theanine is actually kind of the,
the chill out agent withinthis product.
So it's derived from, from teaand it has, you know, kind of a,
an effect on the brain whereit gives you this kind of feeling
of like alert, calm but alert.
Right.
So like alert, focus, we'reable to pay attention but not at
the same time be like all, all jittery.
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So the next one is anotheramino acid.
And again, this is one that Ihad actually played with a little
bit before because it hadactually been recommended in the
original like neurotransmitterassessment that I had done on myself.
And, and so that one is called tyrosine.
And tyrosine has a reallyinteresting history, especially in
relation to like its role assupporting neurotransmitter function
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and brain health.
So it was isolated like over aHundred years ago, 1846, from Casein,
which is one of the proteinsthat is found in dairy.
And in particular the personwho discovered it was looking at
cheese.
And so actually I have found alot of people like really get into
cheese and almost have thislike addictive feeling around cheese.
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And it can be because ofcasein, but casein unfortunately
can also be really inflammatory.
So eating a whole bunch ofdairy can be an inflammatory issue.
So I'm not saying likeactually eat a whole bunch of cheese,
although I'm not necessarilyanti cheese, but because of that
reason.
So it was a German chemist,I'm not going to be able to say his
name because I don't speakGerman, but it's like eustace J U
S T U S VON Liebig and thename tyrosine actually comes from
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the Greek word for cheese,which is tyros.
And it was because it wasinitially associated with cheese
and with dairy.
So it started getting a lot ofattention because it was identified
as helping the brain toproduce dopamine, but also norepinephrine
and epinephrine, which arethose neurotransmitters that really
support mood and motivationand a healthy stress response.
So, you know, as amino acidsstarted to gain more traction here
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in kind of like the mid, earlyto mid 20th century, as I was talking
about before, tyrosine was oneof those that kind of got a lot of
high interest because of thatability to.
Or it's contributing to ourability to manage stress and improve
cognitive function.
So.
And that is especially trueunder high stress or conditions where
we might be more likely tohave fatigue.
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So that led to it being usedin supplements that target mental
and physical performance.
So it's actually a fairlycommonly used supplement.
Now I was personally using itas a powder, which.
It tastes really horrible, you guys.
I'm just going to tell you,I'm pretty bitter.
But I was, I was using it as apowder in water to, to help before
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I developed this particular supplement.
So food sources of tyrosine.
So I told you that, you know,kind of cheese and dairy was the
first place that it was isolated.
It's also really high inchicken and turke, in fish, in some
nuts and seeds and eggs.
So those are some food sources.
But kind of like with theanene coming from tea, what's a challenge
with just looking at foodsources when we're trying to get
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that like, direct benefit,what I'm calling that bridge support
for our brains to feel better.
Because we don't know exactlyhow much we're getting in any particular
food and there might bedifferent amounts even in the same
food.
So like you know, justdepending on ingredients and processing,
one slice of cheese from onebrand one day might have a different
amount of tyrosine from that,even that same brand of cheese another
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day.
So you can't really, you can'treally like differentiate what you're
getting and then, and there'sno specificity to it.
So we're not saying like weget exactly this many milligrams
and it's going to help me inthis way.
So it's always a good idea tobe focused on foods that are containing
ingredients that are going tohelp you.
Um, so absolutely, that foodlist I just told you hit that, do
it.
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Um, and know that if you'relooking for specific result, it's
going to be harder to just dothat from.
From food.
And then the very lastingredient I'm going to share with
you, this is kind of like thestar of the show.
So the supplement is calledFocus Flower.
I actually don't remember if Isaid that last time.
I don't think I did.
So big reveal, you guys.
The name is called FocusFlower and it was designed to help
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you have a feeling of focusand flow.
And the flower part for thiscomes from the plant source, which
is Mucuna purines, which isalso known as velvet bean.
It has this really prettypurple flower.
So the label for the bottle isthis really gorgeous purpley color.
And it's from this purple fromthe flower of this plant.
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So it's actually a kind oflike a legume kind of plant.
And it's been used forthousands of years traditionally
in Ayurvedic medicine.
Actually also some traditionalAfrican medicine has used it.
So it's been valued for eonsfor its medicinal properties.
And I think I had mentionedbefore it was introduced to me actually
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by a client.
So she had asked me about itbecause I think a fruit friend had
told her about it.
So a friend had been takingit, had really felt some great benefit,
and she asked me about it.
And so I went to go, ofcourse, down my rabbit hole and my
hyper focus and go figure outwhat was this ingredient because
I hadn't heard of it, eventhough I had studied herbal medicine.
So I never studied Ayurvedicmedicine in particular.
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So that is kind of a side thing.
But I went in and I looked atthe literature on this and.
And it has a long history,like I said, in traditional use and
a lot of times for Parkinson'slike symptoms.
And so one of the reasons whyit's been used like that traditionally
and actually a lot of theresearch that's being done now is
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also in that arena, is becauseit has this L.
Dopa component to it, which isa constituent part that can cross
the blood brain barrier andsupport dopamine production.
So it was a natural choice forthings that had to do with mood.
Certainly can also potentiallybe helpful for things, you know,
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that are involving motorfunction, which is again where that
research is being done now.
But using, you know,historical use, it's for mood, for
even reproductive health andsexual vitality as a, you know, classically
been used as an aphrodisiacfor some cultures, they ground it
into A powder to enhancephysical strength and endurance and,
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you know, cognitive performance.
So there has just been a longhistory of use and I always feel
a lot more comfortable withsomething that has been around for
a really long time.
And I think of this actuallyas evidence based.
So, you know, I feel like theterm evidence based has been hijacked
in our modern world assomething that's like only, you know,
you have to have done aspecific kind of scientific study
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for it to have evidence.
But you can, to me, in mymind, you can easily look back at
thousands of years of use andsay, well, that is some pretty strong
evidence as well.
When people have been usingsomething in a particular way for
thousands of years, that is,that is some great evidence.
So that is my extra secretingredient is the name, is the origination
for the name Focus Flower andit's kind of the key star here.
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I feel like it's the thingthat kind of took the stack that
I was already using oftheanine and tyrosine and really
like bumped it over the edgeto be like truly kind of this magical
thing for me.
So those are the threeingredients and it is being produced
now.
I just got my bottle over the weekend.
I'm so excited.
It's beautiful you guys.
A lot of work also went intojust making it pretty.
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I like pretty things.
And so aesthetically I wanteda brand.
So the brand, my new brand iscalled Moon Bloom and this product
is called Focus Flower.
And I just really wanted MoonBloom to be pretty, honestly, and,
and to kind of like to speakto this, this positive feeling that
I'm wanting to bring into the world.
So it is, right now, it is, ithas just been released.
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So depending on when you'rehearing this podcast episode, if
you are hearing it when I amreleasing it, it day to preorder
this supplement.
And so by pre order I meanit's actually not available to ship
yet.
So it's offered at a, at ahuge discount, a massive discount
because you are going to haveto wait a couple of weeks to get
your hands on it.
So it's a 22% discount for thenext nearly two weeks and that's
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for the pre order.
So I'm going to be putting alink into the show notes for where
you can get your hands on thisapp, this extreme discount.
So you can grabthis@yourfocusflower.com and the
discount code you're going towant to use to get the 22% discount,
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which again is a pre order discount.
It will never, ever, ever,ever be this discounted again is
Moon Bloom 22.
So the name of the, of thebrand, which is Moon Bloom 22 will
get you that 22% discount.
So I am again, I'm just likebeyond delighted.
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In my email that I sent out tomy list this morning, I said, is
this a birth announcement?
Because it truly feels to melike, like I have, I've created something
new and it's, I'm likebirthing this new thing into the
world.
So this is a little birthannouncement for Moon Bloom and for
Focus Flower.
They are my babies.
I've just dated them for notquite as long as a human baby, but
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like almost, almost as long,nearly as long.
So this is the birth announannouncement for, for those, for
the brand and for Focus Flowerthe product.
So again I will be putting thelink into the show notes where you
can get that.
This is the first time it'sever been offered.
This is the first time, youknow, this product has been out there.
It is completely my baby.
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It is my formulation.
This, you know, didn't come.
This is not coming from anybig manufacturer out there in the
world.
This is, this is a little, alittle product from, from my brain.
So my brain to your brain.
I hope you enjoy it.
Please, please let me know.
I am really looking forward togetting some feedback from actual
users.
So if you are feeling greatbenefit after you receive this, please
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come and let me know.
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