June 23, 2025 • 29 mins
A new woke conspiracy theory has emerged on TikTok that's especially popular with women, even though it's absolutely absurd. I break it down in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast. Plus, a Democratic lawmaker drops a cringeworthy "song" on social media, and Trump quietly announces something that really should be a scandal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thousands of people were woken up around four am, and
those people were called to anchor in the higher timeline
where Kamala was the winner. I am interpreting my meditation
downloads correctly that we will begin collapsing those timelines tomorrow,
June fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Today is the day that ends in why so woke
people on the Internet are not Coping? Well, we're going
to break down the latest absurd conspiracy theory going mega
viral on TikTok and so much more on today's episode
(00:35):
of The Bad Versus Everyone Podcast, my daily show where
we take on the craziest ideas from across the Internet,
our media, and our politics, all from an independent perspective.
Before we get into all our official business for the day, guys,
quick heads up that I'm actually moving to Miami this week,
so we're driving down there. It's going to take a
couple of days, so I will most likely be missing
(00:58):
shows Tuesday and Wednesday. So thanks for bearing with me
through that, and I can't wait to get going again
down in our new place in Miami. Also, a bunch
of people have been asking me for my take about
the Iran situation, but frankly, I don't cover a lot
of foreign policy in my coverage for a reason, I'm
(01:19):
not an expert in it. It's super complicated. I don't
quite know what to believe. Maybe I'll do some interviews
or a debate with guests at some point, but I'm
not going to cover it extensively on this channel because frankly,
there's just better sources you could go to for coverage
on this complicated issue where honestly, it's tough to know
(01:40):
exactly what's going on. But I absolutely do hope that
our US Service personnel overseas are safe and that hopefully
things can be de escalated to a situation where we
don't end up in another all out war. Now, guys,
let's get to our main story today, which is the
absolutely delusional movement gaining steam on tip Talk where some people,
(02:02):
and I'm going to say this though no shade to
all of y'all, it's mostly the woke white wine moms,
if we're being so for real, have convinced themselves that
they are in an alternative timeline where Kamala won that
they spiritually connected with and it's going to merge with
(02:22):
our timeline soon. It sounds like I hit the crack
pipe one too many times. I know it does, but
I didn't. We're going to take a look at a
video from the Free Press summing up this bizarre TikTok phenomenon.
Take a look.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The left wing version of QAnon is here and they
believe that Kamala Harris really won the election. This group
is called the four Am Club.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Basically, on November six, thousands of people were woken up
around four am and those people were called to anchor
in the higher timeline where Kamala was the winner.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
The call was sent out and we received it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It was founded by this woman who goes by giaprism
on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I am a psychic medium, I'm a healer.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
She sort of gives downloads as she calls them from spirit.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
This contest wasn't right.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
We will yet get a different result.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
In the end, I was shown him falling from something
to do with blood on the brain.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Okay, I'm seeing lower level leaders will be removed before
the top ones.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It bears a striking resemblance to QAnon, except everything has
been feminized. Instead of searching through reddit boards and eight
chant to find what they're looking for, they go deep
within themselves. Trusting their feminine intuition, their gut, the divine goddess.
The four Am clubbers I don't think are going to
be scaling the capital anytime soon, but I do think
they represent the next chapter in the story of political conspiracies.
(03:41):
It shows that the American population feels both completely out
of control and lied to.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So you just heard from Susie Weiss there of the
Free Press, who I thought did a really insightful job
discussing this, But wow, what phenomenon. It's just kind of everything.
It's just like the chef's kiss, combination of the most
lunatic fringes of social media. And I should be clear
that this isn't the biggest, you know, micro universe in
(04:13):
social media in the world, but it's also not that small,
and it's not inconsequential, and it is breathtaking lee, honestly
breathtaking lee. Hypocritical from the Democracy people who spent years
complaining and quite rightfully about how shameful it was for
MAGA some not all, but many MAGA supporters to deny
the results of the twenty twenty election, which Trump lost
(04:36):
and Biden won. I agreed with many of their criticisms
of those people who did that, but then some of
these bluinon people or yeah, the comparison to QAnon is
kind of apt. Honestly, really do seem to engage in
something of a similar sort in the opposite direction now
without detecting the clear irony or hypocrisy here. And it
(04:57):
reminds me of something that happened after the two sixteen election,
which Trump won and Hillary Clinton lost, where there was
this multi year basically media narrative about how Trump colluded
with Russia to steal the election basically or to interfere
in the election, and it ended up not being a
whole lot of truth to it. And more importantly, we
hear a lot about right wing conspiracy theories and right
(05:21):
wing election denial, and to be clear, there's a lot
of that in American politics, and my friend Isaac Sahl
over at Tangled News has done a really amazing job
extensively documenting how untrue a lot of those stories and
beliefs are, and he's extensively debunked the stuff if you
are interested. But it does frustrate me sometimes when mainstream
(05:43):
media outlets will act like this doesn't really exist on
the left, when it very much does a shocking portion
of Democrats believed in twenty sixteen or after twenty sixteen
that Putin had literally hacked the voting machines to swing
the election to Trump, which he hadn't, and reporting even
in the media never even suggested that, but they totally
internalized this false, anti democratic notion and conspiracy theory. But
(06:08):
it just doesn't get the same attention as like, you know,
the mega conspiracy theories that the manstream media loves to
dissect and talk about and sometimes again sometimes rightfully. So
now I want to get more into this four Am club.
They literally think that they were spiritually awoken at four
am in the night of the election in some sort
(06:30):
of message from like to the nether worlds or something.
And I'm not a spiritual person, so my shade here
is going to come out a little bit that. Oh, well,
in another timeline, Kamala won, and they seem to think
that the timelines will merge at some point and Trump
will be removed from office and Kamala will replace him,
which is just not a thing. Like if Trump was
(06:54):
removed from office, JD. Vance would become the next president.
I want to play you a full one of these
videos so you get a better sense of what exactly
we're dealing with. And warning guys, the Delulu is off
the charts.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, So the four Am Club is a term coined
and a club founded by geoprism. I've tagged her and
linked one of her pin videos that explains. But basically,
on November six thousands of people were woken up around
four am, and those people were called to anchor in
the higher timeline where Kamala was the winner. This is
not a small club. This is thousands of people, and
(07:27):
I was one of them. My specific experience was that
I woke up at four am on November sixth and
I had a knowing without looking at my phone, that
he had won. But everything in my body, in my mind,
in my soul, and my energy felt like that was
not true. It felt like she had won and I
was somehow being made to watch a parallel timeline where
(07:47):
he won. And I have existed in that alternate timeline
since four am on November sixth, just as thousands of
other four am ers have. I have been so steadfast,
so rock solid in my I believe that she won
and it was only a matter of time until we
all got onto that timeline that my friends have looked
at me like I'm crazy and told me I'm delusional.
(08:09):
But those of us in the four Am Club viscerally
experienced that timeline split on November sixth. We have been
existing this whole time on a completely different timeline, and
we have been holding the light, we have been holding
the vision. We have been angering that timeline while the
rest of this country has been going through the necessary
steps to merge with that timeline. And I believe, if
(08:31):
I am interpreting my meditation downloads correctly, that we will
begin collapsing those timelines tomorrow June fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So, guys, it is now June twenty third, and I
don't know about y'all, but Trump's still president, and I
haven't noticed the timelines merging. The wine Moms are out
of control, they really are. I mean, this idea is
so crazy I barely even know how to engage with it.
But yeah, you felt like this was wrong inside because
(09:01):
you're really emotionally upset about it, doesn't mean you actually
exist in an alternate dimension where this didn't happen. Like
this is just levels of denial and cope that cannot
be healthy for any human being to engage in and
the comment it's not just a couple of these like
influencer people. The comments are filled with people, again almost
exclusively women, doubling down on this. Uttered Delulu, I have chills.
(09:26):
It's thousands of us who are so confident in our knowing,
and now the courts are slowly starting to validate the data.
It's happening. Are are the courts in the room with us, love,
who are validating your data? This isn't happening. This is
not a thing. Another person commented, yes, I was also
(09:47):
one of the four am rs. Belulu heart Okay, at
least I appreciate the self awareness from her that she
seems to realize this is just blue de Lulu, but
thinks that's a good thing. Another person said, I've never
heard about the four am club like ever until your
prior video. It's like you're telling my story that happened
to me on November sixth. I haven't told anyone because
(10:09):
it sounds crazy. My guides now bring me here on
June Friday, the thirteenth. I'm kind of freaking out right now.
Your guides are the guides in the room with us.
I'm sorry if you're hearing from guides. You should tell
a doctor about that, because there are no guides. Yup,
four Am Club here. And I will never forget waking
(10:30):
up and the feeling I had the next month or
so with some of the saddest I can recall. But
it's where I have found so many wonderful creators here
who have kept me sane, and now we are all
seeing it play out. The rise of the divine feminine
is here? Is is this you being kept saying? Another
(10:51):
person says, yup, I'm a four Am Club member. I'm
so glad I found so many other members back in November,
or it would have been a very lonely seven month. Okay.
So I think some of these comments actually get at
the serious part of this phenomenon, which is that some
people have both through through kind of an unhealthy combination
of two things. One of these things is believing a
(11:13):
lot of propaganda or alarmism that isn't true. I mean,
I've made many criticisms but the Trump administration, but we've
also heard so many fake narratives that are not true.
Like there was a whole thing about how Trump is
bringing back segregation. Lots of people think he's going to
take away gay marriage, all sorts of things, the Handmaid's
Tale stuff, So there's this absurd alarmism about it. Not
(11:34):
to say I mean I criticized him regularly. I have
some criticisms for him later in this episode, even but
the idea, like, clearly they have pushed a level of
panic in people's minds that is not substantiated by the
facts of this administration on social media, in mainstream media coverage,
and that has a real psychological effect on some of
these people. So they're scared to the most extreme point,
(11:55):
and they feel very sad and hopeless about this stuff,
which I do have some compassion for them. However, I
think that's partially also because people have made politics too
big a part of their everyday lives and they hang
on every word. They listen to hours and hours of
political podcasts, when really you should be tuning out from
that stuff except for the one amazing podcast that you
listen to every Monday through Friday called The Brad Versus
(12:19):
Everyone podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts other than that, Like,
it isn't healthy to it's good to stay informed, but
it's not healthy to obsess over politics when it's completely
out of your control. And I think from the combination
of those two things, we've arrived in this place where
some small but not insignificant percentage of the population is
(12:39):
so psychologically broken and emotionally damaged by the fact that
Trump won that they can't accept reality, they can't cope.
They literally have to invent spiritual, multi dimensional conspiracy theories
to try to convince themselves that what's happening isn't really happening,
and that's actually really sad, like real sad. But I
(13:01):
think it speaks to a broader problem that people these days,
at least many, don't have the right kind of emotional
and psychological resilience and coping skills that you need to
be a fully functioning adult in a divided and you know,
constantly evolving country like ours. But what do you, guys think,
(13:21):
Have you encountered this stuff in the wild out on
your social media feeds? You know, anybody in real life
who actually thinks the timelines will merge and Kamala will
replace Trump? I don't, at least not that I know of,
but maybe out there somebody is. Let me know in
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I don't think he did anything wrong. Up next, guys,
a Democratic member of Congress just dropped the cringiest anti
(14:05):
Trump song of all time, and I had to hear it,
so you do too. Take a listen and try not
to pull out all of your hair.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I'm compelled with a new guitar and with some thoughts
about that old song. Hey Joe, you know to give
some commentary on where we are now? Hey Trump, where
(14:38):
you going with that gun in your hand? Hey Trump,
where you're going with that gun in your hand? I'm
(15:10):
going down the street and shoot down democracy.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know, I want to be a king some day.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm going down and shoot the democracy down. You know, I
want to be the king some day. Hey Donald Trump,
(15:52):
we won't let you take out democracy down. Take it
down to the ground. Hey, Trump, we won't let you
take our democracy down. Burn it down to the ground.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
That's it, y'all.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
He really thought he hey, he thought he cooked. His
team recorded this, filmed this, watched it back. It was
like our man's cooked. You know this is fire. We
have to share this with the world. What sir, You
need someone in your life who loves you enough to
tell you no, to tell you when you have not,
(16:47):
in fact done your big one. Because that was absolutely terrible.
I am not musically inclined whatsoever. I think I haven't
done anything since third grade chorus. But even to me,
the guitar playing was not hitting for me. It didn't
hit the way he hoped it hit. The singing was lackluster,
(17:12):
the lyrics didn't really make any point at all other
than saying Trump Democracy gun over and over again, which
didn't convey much of an argument or information. Also side note,
this is Representative Hank Johnson, a Democrat. Isn't he? I
could be remembering this incorrectly. Isn't he the one who
(17:33):
thought that Guam, which is an island, might tip over?
Speaker 9 (17:39):
In a House Armed Services Committee hearing discussing a military
build up on the island of Guam.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Here's Georgia Congressman Hank Johnson.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Listen, this is a island that at its widest level
is what twelve miles from shore to shore. An at
the smallest level, the smallest location, it's seven miles between
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one shore and the other. Is that correct?
Speaker 10 (18:17):
I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir,
I think Guam is a small island, very.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Small island, and about twenty four miles if I recall long,
twenty four miles long, about seven miles wide at the
least widest place on the island in about twenty about
twelve miles wide on the widest part of the island.
(18:49):
And I don't know how many square miles that is.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Do you happen to know?
Speaker 10 (18:57):
I don't have that figure with me, sir. I can
certainly supply it to you if you'd like.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become
so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
We don't anticipate that.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I am mixed between laughing at it all and feeling
like a really deep and profound sense of pity and
despair that like I really do wish and I mean
this that Democrats could offer a sane, moderate alternative to
the chaos and divisiveness of Donald Trump. But instead we
(19:44):
get a mix of like fringe positions, you know, dying
on the hill that states can't ban child sex changes
and cringe worthy resistance pandering like this, Is this the
really what the Democratic Party can come up with? I mean,
this isn't like you would expect this kind of content
from some like cringe suburb Dad in Massachusetts or something.
(20:09):
This is a sitting member of Congress and they chose
to upload this, whereas and obviously, you know, the Republican
Party doesn't really have this either. But there used to
be something in politics called like message discipline, where if
you posted or said stupid crap, your party leadership would
crack down on you and say delete that, stop talking,
don't do that. You're hurting our party and making us
look bad. And obviously, you know, with Marjorie Taylor Green
(20:31):
constantly saying crazy stuff and all sorts of people in
the Republican Party, clearly they don't really have that anymore.
But neither do the Democrats, because if they had an
ounce of sense, you know, my Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.
House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries would call this dude and be like,
take that crap down now and fire your social media
in turn. But they don't have any common sense, and really,
(20:52):
at this point, the cringe is the best we can
hope for. But I had to hear that, so I
subjected y'all to it. You're welcome for that. Okay, guys,
we're going to talk about one more big story that
like nobody's really paying attention to. It's kind of just
happening in the background of American politics right now. And
in one sense, I understand that because so much is
going on, you know, you're on the budget, so many
(21:15):
other things, But like, this is actually a big deal
because Trump is pretty blatantly breaking the law. You might
remember that Congress under Biden passed a bill basically banning TikTok,
and then the president at the time, President Joe Biden,
signed it into law and it was actually litigated all
the way to the Supreme Court, which upheld it. Now,
(21:36):
I was actually against that bill. I don't support banning
TikTok as a matter of my policy priorities, and I
talked about why at the time extensively. But that law
was passed by Congress, signed by the President, and upheld
by the Supreme Court, and it was supposed to go
into effect many many months ago, but President Trump has
(21:57):
just decided to not enforce it, even though he has
absolutely no legal authority to do that. Take a listen
to this reporting from Live Now from Fox.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
We did want to share this with you as President
Trump has just released this statement indicating that he has
signed the executive order extending the deadline for the TikTok
closing for ninety days, so taking that to September seventeenth.
He says, thank you for your attention in this matter,
and we did want to share just a little bit
(22:28):
more information as we have now learned that President Trump
has extended the deadline for the TikTok sale. This doesn't
come as a surprise, as he was indicating that he
would do just that the White House confirming that earlier.
This is the third extension since President Trump took office
in January, and previously Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said that
(22:53):
President Trump in fact would sign an additional executive order
to keep TikTok up and run is saying, quote, as
he has said many times, President Trump does not want
TikTok to go dark. This extension will last ninety days,
which the administration will spend working to ensure this deal
is closed so that the American people can continue to
(23:15):
use TikTok with the assurance that their data is safe
and secure. Now, this move adds to the ongoing developments
surrounding TikTok, which is the popular video sharing app owned
by Chinese parent company byte Dance. The White House continues
to cite national security concerns over potential Chinese government access
(23:38):
to US user data. So the delay is technically at
odds with a law passed back in twenty twenty four,
the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, which
was mandated that byte Dance divest it's US TikTok operations
by this past January. However, of President Trump has now
(24:01):
signed an executive order to extend that deadline by ninety days,
the third time that he has done so since taking office,
and any developments, we of course will bring them to you.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So there really is just no legal justification for this whatsoever.
The original legislation gave the Trump administration the opportunity to
extend the deadline once if TikTok or the buyers met
a series of conditions, and Trump did do it the
first time, so maybe you could say, okay, well, that
(24:33):
one's fair enough, though I'm not even sure they met
the conditions to do that, but say that one's fair enough.
This second and third just pauses in enforcement are nowhere
in the law. There's nothing saying he can do that.
He just made it up. And a reporter from the
Free Press asked the White House what their legal authority
for this was, and Caroline Levitt gave an absolute nothing
(24:55):
burger of an answer.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
Take a listen the decision to extend the I guess
delay in enforcing the TikTok ban. Sure, can you talk
about how the White House understands its constitutional authority in
light of the Supreme Court's decision in January that said
that the President had to enforce the ban.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Sure, well, as all of you know, because the President
put it out on his truth social today, he did
sign an executive order to extend the TikTok ban for
ninety days. So in the effort to make a deal,
and White House Council in the Department of Justice have
reviewed this executive order, and I can get it for you.
I think it's on our website by now. If it's not,
my team will now put it up immediately, and you
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can read the language in that executive order. And the
White House Counsel's Office and the Department of Justice strongly
believe in the legal rationale for this executive order. They
wouldn't have the President's pen hit it if they didn't.
And the political reasoning for this, of course, is because
the President made a promise to keep TikTok Talk on.
There are one hundred million Americans who use this app.
It's wildly popular.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
He also wants to.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Protect americans data and privacy concerns on this app. Believes
we can do both things at the same time. So
he's making an extension so we can get this deal done.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Notice how when asked what the legal justification was, she
cited no law, no provision of this law, no federal statute,
no part of the constitution allowing the president to simply
decline to enforce the law of the land because he
doesn't agree with it. That's not a thing. And Trump
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explicitly took an oath of office to uphold the laws
of the United States. But he's just saying, nah, I
don't really want to do that one, so I'm going
to just not for a while and doing it over
and over again. And look, you can't really separate this
from the conversation that he had massive donors who have
financial stakes in TikTok because Trump used to support banning it,
(26:47):
then did a point eighty and it coincided with two things.
Trump becoming more popular on TikTok, which, let's be honest,
he cares a lot about that, and a very prominent
donor who has a big finance stake in TikTok giving
a lot of money to the Trump campaign. So I
don't exactly think the motivations for this are pure as
fresh winter snow. But even if they were, it doesn't matter.
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It's illegal. You can't just not enforce the laws when
you swore to uphold them. Justin Stapley pointed out on Twitter,
this is a blatant violation of the oath of office.
The president cannot choose to forever postpone the faithful execution
of the laws passed by Congress, and a community note
was added to Trump's post. The president has no legal
authority to extend the deadline in other ninety days. The
(27:34):
Supreme Court in TikTok versus Garland wrote the Act permits
the president to grant a one time extension of no
more than ninety days with respect to the prohibitions two
hundred and seventy day effective date. Yet this is Trump's
third extension, which isn't legal. It's not allowed, And it
doesn't matter whether you are in support of banning TikTok.
(27:56):
It doesn't matter whether you're against banning TikTok like I
was at the time. The rule of law is a
more important principle and Trump is just blatantly violating it
with this. And it's funny because you have the Democrats
with their no Kings protests, and you have them crying
authoritarianism and fascism over things like arresting mayoral candidates in
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New York City who literally try to stop Ice from
arresting an illegal immigrant, when that's just like obstruction of justice.
Yet this is, without a doubt, the most king like
and the most authoritarian, one of the most authoritarian things
that Trump has done as president. Democrats aren't really picking
up on it very much. There's a little bit of
criticism and pushback, but because they don't actually believe in
(28:40):
a lot of these values, they're just kind of transactional,
and a lot of them like TikTok or some of them.
Some many did support banning it, but a lot of
them do like it and want to keep it so
And it's just, I guess, not as sexy as like
immigration or other issues where they can rally their base.
But this is actually a huge deal and really not okay.
But they're just not really it. It's kind of wild
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to me. But what do you guys think? How do
you feel about this TikTok band and the way that
Trump is simply refusing to enforce the laws of the land.
Let me know in the comments. All right, guys, that'll
be in for this episode of the Bread Versus Everyone Podcast.
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Thousands of people were woken up around four am, and
those people were called to anchor in the higher timeline
where Kamala was the winner. I am interpreting my meditation
downloads correctly that we will begin collapsing those timelines tomorrow,
June fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Today is the day that ends in why so woke
people on the Internet are not Coping? Well, we're going
to break down the latest absurd conspiracy theory going mega
viral on TikTok and so much more on today's episode
(00:35):
of The Bad Versus Everyone Podcast, my daily show where
we take on the craziest ideas from across the Internet,
our media, and our politics, all from an independent perspective.
Before we get into all our official business for the day, guys,
quick heads up that I'm actually moving to Miami this week,
so we're driving down there. It's going to take a
couple of days, so I will most likely be missing
(00:58):
shows Tuesday and Wednesday. So thanks for bearing with me
through that, and I can't wait to get going again
down in our new place in Miami. Also, a bunch
of people have been asking me for my take about
the Iran situation, but frankly, I don't cover a lot
of foreign policy in my coverage for a reason, I'm
(01:19):
not an expert in it. It's super complicated. I don't
quite know what to believe. Maybe I'll do some interviews
or a debate with guests at some point, but I'm
not going to cover it extensively on this channel because frankly,
there's just better sources you could go to for coverage
on this complicated issue where honestly, it's tough to know
(01:40):
exactly what's going on. But I absolutely do hope that
our US Service personnel overseas are safe and that hopefully
things can be de escalated to a situation where we
don't end up in another all out war. Now, guys,
let's get to our main story today, which is the
absolutely delusional movement gaining steam on tip Talk where some people,
(02:02):
and I'm going to say this though no shade to
all of y'all, it's mostly the woke white wine moms,
if we're being so for real, have convinced themselves that
they are in an alternative timeline where Kamala won that
they spiritually connected with and it's going to merge with
(02:22):
our timeline soon. It sounds like I hit the crack
pipe one too many times. I know it does, but
I didn't. We're going to take a look at a
video from the Free Press summing up this bizarre TikTok phenomenon.
Take a look.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The left wing version of QAnon is here and they
believe that Kamala Harris really won the election. This group
is called the four Am Club.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Basically, on November six, thousands of people were woken up
around four am and those people were called to anchor
in the higher timeline where Kamala was the winner.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
The call was sent out and we received it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It was founded by this woman who goes by giaprism
on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I am a psychic medium, I'm a healer.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
She sort of gives downloads as she calls them from spirit.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
This contest wasn't right.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
We will yet get a different result.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
In the end, I was shown him falling from something
to do with blood on the brain.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Okay, I'm seeing lower level leaders will be removed before
the top ones.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It bears a striking resemblance to QAnon, except everything has
been feminized. Instead of searching through reddit boards and eight
chant to find what they're looking for, they go deep
within themselves. Trusting their feminine intuition, their gut, the divine goddess.
The four Am clubbers I don't think are going to
be scaling the capital anytime soon, but I do think
they represent the next chapter in the story of political conspiracies.
(03:41):
It shows that the American population feels both completely out
of control and lied to.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So you just heard from Susie Weiss there of the
Free Press, who I thought did a really insightful job
discussing this, But wow, what phenomenon. It's just kind of everything.
It's just like the chef's kiss, combination of the most
lunatic fringes of social media. And I should be clear
that this isn't the biggest, you know, micro universe in
(04:13):
social media in the world, but it's also not that small,
and it's not inconsequential, and it is breathtaking lee, honestly
breathtaking lee. Hypocritical from the Democracy people who spent years
complaining and quite rightfully about how shameful it was for
MAGA some not all, but many MAGA supporters to deny
the results of the twenty twenty election, which Trump lost
(04:36):
and Biden won. I agreed with many of their criticisms
of those people who did that, but then some of
these bluinon people or yeah, the comparison to QAnon is
kind of apt. Honestly, really do seem to engage in
something of a similar sort in the opposite direction now
without detecting the clear irony or hypocrisy here. And it
(04:57):
reminds me of something that happened after the two sixteen election,
which Trump won and Hillary Clinton lost, where there was
this multi year basically media narrative about how Trump colluded
with Russia to steal the election basically or to interfere
in the election, and it ended up not being a
whole lot of truth to it. And more importantly, we
hear a lot about right wing conspiracy theories and right
(05:21):
wing election denial, and to be clear, there's a lot
of that in American politics, and my friend Isaac Sahl
over at Tangled News has done a really amazing job
extensively documenting how untrue a lot of those stories and
beliefs are, and he's extensively debunked the stuff if you
are interested. But it does frustrate me sometimes when mainstream
(05:43):
media outlets will act like this doesn't really exist on
the left, when it very much does a shocking portion
of Democrats believed in twenty sixteen or after twenty sixteen
that Putin had literally hacked the voting machines to swing
the election to Trump, which he hadn't, and reporting even
in the media never even suggested that, but they totally
internalized this false, anti democratic notion and conspiracy theory. But
(06:08):
it just doesn't get the same attention as like, you know,
the mega conspiracy theories that the manstream media loves to
dissect and talk about and sometimes again sometimes rightfully. So
now I want to get more into this four Am club.
They literally think that they were spiritually awoken at four
am in the night of the election in some sort
(06:30):
of message from like to the nether worlds or something.
And I'm not a spiritual person, so my shade here
is going to come out a little bit that. Oh, well,
in another timeline, Kamala won, and they seem to think
that the timelines will merge at some point and Trump
will be removed from office and Kamala will replace him,
which is just not a thing. Like if Trump was
(06:54):
removed from office, JD. Vance would become the next president.
I want to play you a full one of these
videos so you get a better sense of what exactly
we're dealing with. And warning guys, the Delulu is off
the charts.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, So the four Am Club is a term coined
and a club founded by geoprism. I've tagged her and
linked one of her pin videos that explains. But basically,
on November six thousands of people were woken up around
four am, and those people were called to anchor in
the higher timeline where Kamala was the winner. This is
not a small club. This is thousands of people, and
(07:27):
I was one of them. My specific experience was that
I woke up at four am on November sixth and
I had a knowing without looking at my phone, that
he had won. But everything in my body, in my mind,
in my soul, and my energy felt like that was
not true. It felt like she had won and I
was somehow being made to watch a parallel timeline where
(07:47):
he won. And I have existed in that alternate timeline
since four am on November sixth, just as thousands of
other four am ers have. I have been so steadfast,
so rock solid in my I believe that she won
and it was only a matter of time until we
all got onto that timeline that my friends have looked
at me like I'm crazy and told me I'm delusional.
(08:09):
But those of us in the four Am Club viscerally
experienced that timeline split on November sixth. We have been
existing this whole time on a completely different timeline, and
we have been holding the light, we have been holding
the vision. We have been angering that timeline while the
rest of this country has been going through the necessary
steps to merge with that timeline. And I believe, if
(08:31):
I am interpreting my meditation downloads correctly, that we will
begin collapsing those timelines tomorrow June fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So, guys, it is now June twenty third, and I
don't know about y'all, but Trump's still president, and I
haven't noticed the timelines merging. The wine Moms are out
of control, they really are. I mean, this idea is
so crazy I barely even know how to engage with it.
But yeah, you felt like this was wrong inside because
(09:01):
you're really emotionally upset about it, doesn't mean you actually
exist in an alternate dimension where this didn't happen. Like
this is just levels of denial and cope that cannot
be healthy for any human being to engage in and
the comment it's not just a couple of these like
influencer people. The comments are filled with people, again almost
exclusively women, doubling down on this. Uttered Delulu, I have chills.
(09:26):
It's thousands of us who are so confident in our knowing,
and now the courts are slowly starting to validate the data.
It's happening. Are are the courts in the room with us, love,
who are validating your data? This isn't happening. This is
not a thing. Another person commented, yes, I was also
(09:47):
one of the four am rs. Belulu heart Okay, at
least I appreciate the self awareness from her that she
seems to realize this is just blue de Lulu, but
thinks that's a good thing. Another person said, I've never
heard about the four am club like ever until your
prior video. It's like you're telling my story that happened
to me on November sixth. I haven't told anyone because
(10:09):
it sounds crazy. My guides now bring me here on
June Friday, the thirteenth. I'm kind of freaking out right now.
Your guides are the guides in the room with us.
I'm sorry if you're hearing from guides. You should tell
a doctor about that, because there are no guides. Yup,
four Am Club here. And I will never forget waking
(10:30):
up and the feeling I had the next month or
so with some of the saddest I can recall. But
it's where I have found so many wonderful creators here
who have kept me sane, and now we are all
seeing it play out. The rise of the divine feminine
is here? Is is this you being kept saying? Another
(10:51):
person says, yup, I'm a four Am Club member. I'm
so glad I found so many other members back in November,
or it would have been a very lonely seven month. Okay.
So I think some of these comments actually get at
the serious part of this phenomenon, which is that some
people have both through through kind of an unhealthy combination
of two things. One of these things is believing a
(11:13):
lot of propaganda or alarmism that isn't true. I mean,
I've made many criticisms but the Trump administration, but we've
also heard so many fake narratives that are not true.
Like there was a whole thing about how Trump is
bringing back segregation. Lots of people think he's going to
take away gay marriage, all sorts of things, the Handmaid's
Tale stuff, So there's this absurd alarmism about it. Not
(11:34):
to say I mean I criticized him regularly. I have
some criticisms for him later in this episode, even but
the idea, like, clearly they have pushed a level of
panic in people's minds that is not substantiated by the
facts of this administration on social media, in mainstream media coverage,
and that has a real psychological effect on some of
these people. So they're scared to the most extreme point,
(11:55):
and they feel very sad and hopeless about this stuff,
which I do have some compassion for them. However, I
think that's partially also because people have made politics too
big a part of their everyday lives and they hang
on every word. They listen to hours and hours of
political podcasts, when really you should be tuning out from
that stuff except for the one amazing podcast that you
listen to every Monday through Friday called The Brad Versus
(12:19):
Everyone podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts other than that, Like,
it isn't healthy to it's good to stay informed, but
it's not healthy to obsess over politics when it's completely
out of your control. And I think from the combination
of those two things, we've arrived in this place where
some small but not insignificant percentage of the population is
(12:39):
so psychologically broken and emotionally damaged by the fact that
Trump won that they can't accept reality, they can't cope.
They literally have to invent spiritual, multi dimensional conspiracy theories
to try to convince themselves that what's happening isn't really happening,
and that's actually really sad, like real sad. But I
(13:01):
think it speaks to a broader problem that people these days,
at least many, don't have the right kind of emotional
and psychological resilience and coping skills that you need to
be a fully functioning adult in a divided and you know,
constantly evolving country like ours. But what do you, guys think,
(13:21):
Have you encountered this stuff in the wild out on
your social media feeds? You know, anybody in real life
who actually thinks the timelines will merge and Kamala will
replace Trump? I don't, at least not that I know of,
but maybe out there somebody is. Let me know in
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I don't think he did anything wrong. Up next, guys,
a Democratic member of Congress just dropped the cringiest anti
(14:05):
Trump song of all time, and I had to hear it,
so you do too. Take a listen and try not
to pull out all of your hair.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I'm compelled with a new guitar and with some thoughts
about that old song. Hey Joe, you know to give
some commentary on where we are now? Hey Trump, where
(14:38):
you going with that gun in your hand? Hey Trump,
where you're going with that gun in your hand? I'm
(15:10):
going down the street and shoot down democracy.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know, I want to be a king some day.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm going down and shoot the democracy down. You know, I
want to be the king some day. Hey Donald Trump,
(15:52):
we won't let you take out democracy down. Take it
down to the ground. Hey, Trump, we won't let you
take our democracy down. Burn it down to the ground.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
That's it, y'all.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
He really thought he hey, he thought he cooked. His
team recorded this, filmed this, watched it back. It was
like our man's cooked. You know this is fire. We
have to share this with the world. What sir, You
need someone in your life who loves you enough to
tell you no, to tell you when you have not,
(16:47):
in fact done your big one. Because that was absolutely terrible.
I am not musically inclined whatsoever. I think I haven't
done anything since third grade chorus. But even to me,
the guitar playing was not hitting for me. It didn't
hit the way he hoped it hit. The singing was lackluster,
(17:12):
the lyrics didn't really make any point at all other
than saying Trump Democracy gun over and over again, which
didn't convey much of an argument or information. Also side note,
this is Representative Hank Johnson, a Democrat. Isn't he? I
could be remembering this incorrectly. Isn't he the one who
(17:33):
thought that Guam, which is an island, might tip over?
Speaker 9 (17:39):
In a House Armed Services Committee hearing discussing a military
build up on the island of Guam.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Here's Georgia Congressman Hank Johnson.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Listen, this is a island that at its widest level
is what twelve miles from shore to shore. An at
the smallest level, the smallest location, it's seven miles between
(18:14):
one shore and the other. Is that correct?
Speaker 10 (18:17):
I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir,
I think Guam is a small island, very.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Small island, and about twenty four miles if I recall long,
twenty four miles long, about seven miles wide at the
least widest place on the island in about twenty about
twelve miles wide on the widest part of the island.
(18:49):
And I don't know how many square miles that is.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Do you happen to know?
Speaker 10 (18:57):
I don't have that figure with me, sir. I can
certainly supply it to you if you'd like.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become
so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
We don't anticipate that.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I am mixed between laughing at it all and feeling
like a really deep and profound sense of pity and
despair that like I really do wish and I mean
this that Democrats could offer a sane, moderate alternative to
the chaos and divisiveness of Donald Trump. But instead we
(19:44):
get a mix of like fringe positions, you know, dying
on the hill that states can't ban child sex changes
and cringe worthy resistance pandering like this, Is this the
really what the Democratic Party can come up with? I mean,
this isn't like you would expect this kind of content
from some like cringe suburb Dad in Massachusetts or something.
(20:09):
This is a sitting member of Congress and they chose
to upload this, whereas and obviously, you know, the Republican
Party doesn't really have this either. But there used to
be something in politics called like message discipline, where if
you posted or said stupid crap, your party leadership would
crack down on you and say delete that, stop talking,
don't do that. You're hurting our party and making us
look bad. And obviously, you know, with Marjorie Taylor Green
(20:31):
constantly saying crazy stuff and all sorts of people in
the Republican Party, clearly they don't really have that anymore.
But neither do the Democrats, because if they had an
ounce of sense, you know, my Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.
House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries would call this dude and be like,
take that crap down now and fire your social media
in turn. But they don't have any common sense, and really,
(20:52):
at this point, the cringe is the best we can
hope for. But I had to hear that, so I
subjected y'all to it. You're welcome for that. Okay, guys,
we're going to talk about one more big story that
like nobody's really paying attention to. It's kind of just
happening in the background of American politics right now. And
in one sense, I understand that because so much is
going on, you know, you're on the budget, so many
(21:15):
other things, But like, this is actually a big deal
because Trump is pretty blatantly breaking the law. You might
remember that Congress under Biden passed a bill basically banning TikTok,
and then the president at the time, President Joe Biden,
signed it into law and it was actually litigated all
the way to the Supreme Court, which upheld it. Now,
(21:36):
I was actually against that bill. I don't support banning
TikTok as a matter of my policy priorities, and I
talked about why at the time extensively. But that law
was passed by Congress, signed by the President, and upheld
by the Supreme Court, and it was supposed to go
into effect many many months ago, but President Trump has
(21:57):
just decided to not enforce it, even though he has
absolutely no legal authority to do that. Take a listen
to this reporting from Live Now from Fox.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
We did want to share this with you as President
Trump has just released this statement indicating that he has
signed the executive order extending the deadline for the TikTok
closing for ninety days, so taking that to September seventeenth.
He says, thank you for your attention in this matter,
and we did want to share just a little bit
(22:28):
more information as we have now learned that President Trump
has extended the deadline for the TikTok sale. This doesn't
come as a surprise, as he was indicating that he
would do just that the White House confirming that earlier.
This is the third extension since President Trump took office
in January, and previously Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said that
(22:53):
President Trump in fact would sign an additional executive order
to keep TikTok up and run is saying, quote, as
he has said many times, President Trump does not want
TikTok to go dark. This extension will last ninety days,
which the administration will spend working to ensure this deal
is closed so that the American people can continue to
(23:15):
use TikTok with the assurance that their data is safe
and secure. Now, this move adds to the ongoing developments
surrounding TikTok, which is the popular video sharing app owned
by Chinese parent company byte Dance. The White House continues
to cite national security concerns over potential Chinese government access
(23:38):
to US user data. So the delay is technically at
odds with a law passed back in twenty twenty four,
the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, which
was mandated that byte Dance divest it's US TikTok operations
by this past January. However, of President Trump has now
(24:01):
signed an executive order to extend that deadline by ninety days,
the third time that he has done so since taking office,
and any developments, we of course will bring them to you.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So there really is just no legal justification for this whatsoever.
The original legislation gave the Trump administration the opportunity to
extend the deadline once if TikTok or the buyers met
a series of conditions, and Trump did do it the
first time, so maybe you could say, okay, well, that
(24:33):
one's fair enough, though I'm not even sure they met
the conditions to do that, but say that one's fair enough.
This second and third just pauses in enforcement are nowhere
in the law. There's nothing saying he can do that.
He just made it up. And a reporter from the
Free Press asked the White House what their legal authority
for this was, and Caroline Levitt gave an absolute nothing
(24:55):
burger of an answer.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
Take a listen the decision to extend the I guess
delay in enforcing the TikTok ban. Sure, can you talk
about how the White House understands its constitutional authority in
light of the Supreme Court's decision in January that said
that the President had to enforce the ban.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Sure, well, as all of you know, because the President
put it out on his truth social today, he did
sign an executive order to extend the TikTok ban for
ninety days. So in the effort to make a deal,
and White House Council in the Department of Justice have
reviewed this executive order, and I can get it for you.
I think it's on our website by now. If it's not,
my team will now put it up immediately, and you
(25:35):
can read the language in that executive order. And the
White House Counsel's Office and the Department of Justice strongly
believe in the legal rationale for this executive order. They
wouldn't have the President's pen hit it if they didn't.
And the political reasoning for this, of course, is because
the President made a promise to keep TikTok Talk on.
There are one hundred million Americans who use this app.
It's wildly popular.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
He also wants to.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Protect americans data and privacy concerns on this app. Believes
we can do both things at the same time. So
he's making an extension so we can get this deal done.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Notice how when asked what the legal justification was, she
cited no law, no provision of this law, no federal statute,
no part of the constitution allowing the president to simply
decline to enforce the law of the land because he
doesn't agree with it. That's not a thing. And Trump
(26:26):
explicitly took an oath of office to uphold the laws
of the United States. But he's just saying, nah, I
don't really want to do that one, so I'm going
to just not for a while and doing it over
and over again. And look, you can't really separate this
from the conversation that he had massive donors who have
financial stakes in TikTok because Trump used to support banning it,
(26:47):
then did a point eighty and it coincided with two things.
Trump becoming more popular on TikTok, which, let's be honest,
he cares a lot about that, and a very prominent
donor who has a big finance stake in TikTok giving
a lot of money to the Trump campaign. So I
don't exactly think the motivations for this are pure as
fresh winter snow. But even if they were, it doesn't matter.
(27:11):
It's illegal. You can't just not enforce the laws when
you swore to uphold them. Justin Stapley pointed out on Twitter,
this is a blatant violation of the oath of office.
The president cannot choose to forever postpone the faithful execution
of the laws passed by Congress, and a community note
was added to Trump's post. The president has no legal
authority to extend the deadline in other ninety days. The
(27:34):
Supreme Court in TikTok versus Garland wrote the Act permits
the president to grant a one time extension of no
more than ninety days with respect to the prohibitions two
hundred and seventy day effective date. Yet this is Trump's
third extension, which isn't legal. It's not allowed, And it
doesn't matter whether you are in support of banning TikTok.
(27:56):
It doesn't matter whether you're against banning TikTok like I
was at the time. The rule of law is a
more important principle and Trump is just blatantly violating it
with this. And it's funny because you have the Democrats
with their no Kings protests, and you have them crying
authoritarianism and fascism over things like arresting mayoral candidates in
(28:17):
New York City who literally try to stop Ice from
arresting an illegal immigrant, when that's just like obstruction of justice.
Yet this is, without a doubt, the most king like
and the most authoritarian, one of the most authoritarian things
that Trump has done as president. Democrats aren't really picking
up on it very much. There's a little bit of
criticism and pushback, but because they don't actually believe in
(28:40):
a lot of these values, they're just kind of transactional,
and a lot of them like TikTok or some of them.
Some many did support banning it, but a lot of
them do like it and want to keep it so
And it's just, I guess, not as sexy as like
immigration or other issues where they can rally their base.
But this is actually a huge deal and really not okay.
But they're just not really it. It's kind of wild
(29:02):
to me. But what do you guys think? How do
you feel about this TikTok band and the way that
Trump is simply refusing to enforce the laws of the land.
Let me know in the comments. All right, guys, that'll
be in for this episode of the Bread Versus Everyone Podcast.
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