April 18, 2024 • 56 mins
Discover the unique world of chiropractic care with the Parsons brothers, Jerry and Dr. James, as they unveil their journey from athletes to community healers in Texas. With their shared passion for enhancing the well-being of their patients, this episode promises an intimate look into the workings of a successful chiropractic practice, the power of natural healing, and the dedicated support they offer to our veterans.
This episode is a treasure trove of insights and heartfelt narratives, capturing the essence of chiropractic therapy and its role in maintaining joint mobility and neurological health. The Parsons brothers tackle the complexities of the human body, emphasizing the need for early chiropractic intervention and how they navigate the confines of the VA system to offer the best care possible. They also discuss modern challenges like "tech neck," showcasing the adaptability of chiropractic methods to contemporary lifestyle habits.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:24):
This is Charlie Mike thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yo, what's going on everybody?
Welcome back to another episodeof Charlie Mike the podcast.
As always, I'm your host, Raul,today.
We got two special guests inthe building today and I'm going
to allow them the opportunityto introduce themselves.
Who wants to go first?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
After you.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
My name is Jerry Parsons.
I work out at PremierChiropractic.
I've been there now for 12years and love helping out the
community, love helping givepeople their life back.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So it's been great.
That's awesome.
Where are you from originally?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Originally from.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Corpus Christi.
Corpus Christi, so you're Texasborn and through All the way
through.
Yeah, what about yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So my name is Dr James Parsons, been practicing
chiropractor here now inPearland for 30 years.
I have two locations and justreally enjoyed the Pearland
community Friendswood area.
Surrounding communities havebeen really nice.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So let's start Tell me a little bit about y'all's
past, your upbringing.
You know who you are, how yougot into chiropractic?
Chiropractic, yeah,chiropractic, I don't know
Chiropractic, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Chiropractic.
So you know I was an athlete.
We're up, both of us.
We're brothers, obviously.
What, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'rebrothers.
You know we grew up down inCorpus Christi and you know I
went to college thinking that Iwas going to play baseball the
rest of my life, ended up takingpre-med while I was there.
(02:05):
Good thing I had a backup planand I always said if that didn't
work out, I was going to be ateacher.
So it's kind of come fullcircle where I'm teaching now
more than practicing or playingbaseball.
So I came to Houston, pasadena,with the TCC Graduated in 94.
Houston, Pasadena, with the TCCGraduated in 94.
(02:25):
And my wife and I at the timewe started working and bought a
practice here in Pearland it'scalled Back Pain Chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Back Pain.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, back Pain Chiropractic we started there.
She started there first in 94.
And then in June of 97, webought it from the guy out of
Baton Louisiana.
Yeah, wow, we've been here eversince and I've been going solo
for a while there in 2002.
(02:55):
And we opened up, I guess about11 years ago, the second
location down at 288, asPearland just kept growing and
growing.
And now Jerry's you know meabout what?
12 years ago, yep, 12 years ago.
And he's been a godsend, that'sfor sure.
He's brought in the pieces ofthe business side that were
(03:16):
missing from me in training andhe's good with spreadsheets too.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, if you can't trust your brother, who can you
trust, right?
Oh yeah, that's true.
I know business is a hard thingand it's hard to find people
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You can trust Exactly .
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Especially when it comes to cash and things of that
nature.
I know it's difficult, butthat's amazing.
So you've been in Pearlandsince 94?
Yeah, yeah, what you've seenthe growth.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh yeah, pearland has changed so much.
You know, I think it used totake us what like five minutes
to get from one end to the other.
Now it's faster to take theBeltway around to get to the
other end.
Oh goodness.
With all the traffic lights.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's crazy isn't it?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, pearland's just blown up traffic lights.
But it's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, apparently just blown up,and you know, I the uh, you
know where the original practiceis.
You know, used to be fields outthere, I used to be the
outskirts, apparently, and Ijust swallowed up yeah, where
exactly?
The it's at 20180.
Broadway street was where weoriginally started and, uh, yeah
(04:22):
, there was a driving range outon the corner of Dixie there.
Now it's a Walmart parking lotand Home.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Depot.
Yeah, yeah, wow.
So you definitely seen thegrowth.
Do you reside here in?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Pearland?
No, I live in Friendswood.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
In Friendswood.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Okay, yeah, I used to live in Pearland until I had uh
.
I guess uh change uh in mymarital status.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah, I won't talk too much
about that, but yeah, Iunderstand, I understand you
have kids.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I have two adopted kids, oh nice, nice the older.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Trevor he's 31, and Gracie is 23.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I was going to say you don't got, don't got babies,
no, no, they're, they're,they're off married, but are
they are?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
they ever not gonna be your babies, though you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, she always will, yeah, definitely definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I got, uh, two girls and they are pains in the asses.
I just told y'all about thenetflix story.
She just called me at fouro'clock in the morning and was
like hey dad, what's?
What's the Netflix password?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, that's never a good call, never a good call
Never, never what you got, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So I was, you know, born and raised in Corpus
Christi, Kind of had a directionof being an electrical engineer
and kind of had also thought ofgoing into the military.
So you know, my dad was in theNavy and I thought, you know
what, I think I want to go tothe Navy.
A couple of my cousins werejoining the Navy at the time and
so I thought, you know what,that's what I want to do.
(05:52):
And so I kind of stopped doingall that and headed towards the
Navy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So it took me off.
No other branch was even athought, not even a thought
there you go.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I knew it was Navy if I was going in.
Yeah, and maybe a little bit ofCoast Guard was in the
background Because of your dad.
Yeah, it was more dad, and whathe did.
I mean he was in some divingout there, so he was a rescue
diver for a while in the Navy.
My cousin had gone into theNavy SEALs and I was just like,
okay, oh, wow yeah.
(06:26):
But unfortunately when therecruiter signed me up he didn't
let me know that what he wassigning me up for.
I could not try out for theNavy SEALs back then, so a
little bit stayed in themilitary, got a medical
discharge out of there.
Really was planning on stayingfor a career out of it, but
unfortunately God had somethingelse for me.
(06:46):
So, got out, worked inCalifornia because I was
stationed out there, had twosmall children and worked in the
electronic field out there fora while.
And then my brother came outone summer and we talked about
it and I knew what I was doing.
It wasn't making a differencein lives, you know, it was just.
(07:09):
It was just the work.
You know, it was just runningcompanies and being going
different places to fix issuesand I just felt like there was
something more for me out there.
There's something that I wantedto do to give back.
You know, and you know I feellike I wasn't a doctor, I wasn't
able to do that, but to comehelp doctors and us, to provide
for more people out there, thatwas a calling.
That was something that Ireally saw myself doing.
So I made the transaction withthe family.
(07:31):
I had two children that wereseniors.
They didn't like the move.
I had a child that was injunior high and I had a young
one that was in second grade.
So you know the whole familyhelped and we decided to move
and you know it was a littlerough in the beginning but
wouldn't change that foranything because seeing patients
get better, seeing patients gettheir lives back, getting back
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to doing the things they love todo, and without surgery and
without drugs.
I mean, it was just somethingthat was like.
It was an awesome feeling toknow that the little bit that
I'm doing is also helpingtowards that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Did you always have that heart of giving back, or is
it something that like cause?
I know a lot of veterans thatthat turns out to be.
Their mission is how can I help?
What can I do next?
How can I help the next person?
Is that something you saw inyourself?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
It actually is.
You know, it's funny cause,even though we're brothers and
you know, I always, I always sawmyself as possibly being a
teacher one day.
I like to teach, I like to help.
I've always had that mentalityand you know, just something
that I think our dad put in us,you know, is how can we help
others?
You know, what can we do togive?
And I don't know if it was themilitary, I don't know what
really set it home.
(08:36):
It was just I knew I was doingsomething out there and just
making money, paying bills andraising family wasn't enough.
It was how can I give?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Right, right, right.
You know it's crazy.
You both said teachers.
What was the subject?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Was there a particular subject that you
wanted to teach in?
Would you think in a certaingrade, or just no?
I think, as far as when I sayteaching is being able to, just
you know, educate people andgive back and I think you know
serving is probably one of thebest callings you can have you
know, uh, while we're here onearth, is is to serve in some
capacity, right, you know, Ievery I think every member of my
family um cousins and everybodyelse I knew were in the
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military and I just, you know,um, the baseball thing took me
to health care and serving thereand it's been a reward, you
know, a reward when I wastreating and helping patients
here and then teaching youngdoctors how to serve and how to
take care of patients and how tocommunicate and how to get
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people to understand what youknow, what we can and cannot do.
I think it's just serving ismaybe ties to that teaching.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
to answer your question, Okay, what about
yourself, jerry?
Mine was always I loved math,and so I always saw myself
teaching math, because evengoing through high school, I
would always find myself.
You know the teachers would belooking at me and you know I
wasn't.
I wasn't given answers, but Iwas helping people understand
even back then, and so I alwayshad that calling of you know I
(10:12):
could see myself doing math butjust didn't work out that way.
I went in a different direction.
I think that's why you know Ichose military too is how can I
you?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
know how can.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I serve, serve.
How can I do something biggerand better so?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
you know I was.
I've been a fan of math, butonce they started throwing
letters in there, yeah, I waslike I heard about.
Yeah, you know, that's too muchfor me.
You know, I even tell mydaughter too.
My daughter's like why do I gotto learn this?
I was like baby, do you plan onbeing a scientist?
She's like no, I said you don'tknow that.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know.
It's funny you say that, butthe uh the.
The problem came up the otherday is I.
We just bought a new place.
Um, after my daughter graduatedhigh school, we moved out to
santa fe and there's a flagpolein on the property, but the rope
going up to it looks like it'skind of frail and if I put a
flag on there.
I'm afraid it's gonna break, andthen I don't know how I'm gonna
get up there right so actuallythere's a trick to find out how
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tall the flagpole is bymathematics Just using your arm,
putting it out and putting astick up and counting your
distance from one way and makesure it's the right angle, and
then you know your distance onthe other side.
It's out there.
Math can help.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I'm with you.
You would have seen me outthere with a tape measure trying
to get to the top.
You know like what is?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
this crazy guy doing.
That's what I would have beendoing.
That's way too tall.
I still would have tried.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I was like well, that's about halfway, so double
that, yeah, exactly eyeball it.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, that's too funny, eyeball man yeah, golly
so.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Um, you know, I love, I love what y'all keep saying
about wanting to help andhelping, not wanting to help.
You are helping and you knowright now especially, you know
as a veteran, that the military,they throw drugs at you left
and right.
You know, a lot of times ofcourse the intention is well but
it's just not always the rightthing, and I see that.
(12:07):
So you know, a lot of us comeout with back issues, neck
issues, things like that.
And I'm sure you all see a lotof that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Absolutely.
I mean, it took me a while tofigure out what the VA could do
for me and couldn't do for me,because when I got the medical
discharge I just thought thatwas it, I was done, you know,
and you know, years went by,years went by and then finally
somebody ran into me and saidhey, you know that you could get
more help through the VA thanwhat you're doing.
I go, like what?
And it took somebody showing meand you know, here it was.
(12:38):
You know, probably a couple ofyears ago we started getting
veterans coming to us because welearned how to get into the
network with the va, you know,as providers and be able to give
that away.
There was a time that we justput on our, we took in once a
month.
We would just treat a veteran,just just because it was just
one once a month we take it.
If a veteran came in, we wouldjust take care of them, you know
(12:59):
, and give back to them, um,hardly, because that's what we
do.
We we want to help out, butalso knowing their struggles and
what sometimes the VA can'thelp them with, and so that was
one thing.
But once we got into being ableto get referrals from the VA
and actually people actuallygetting them off their
medications because when youtalk to them they don't want to
be on the medications.
Because the medications just areputting them in a different
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mindset in the first place, andthe pain's still there when they
come out.
So we've had a lot of people youknow come to us and thank us
for being able to treat them andget them back to a natural way
of looking at it so you know,that's one of the reasons why,
you know, I want to kind of getthe message out there that you
know there's other veterans herein Pearland that I know we can
help and they don't have to relyjust on the medication, they
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don't have to rely on a possiblesurgery that goes wrong, and so
there are, and sometimes theymay be on us, but at least give
us.
you know our doctors are reallygood.
You know Dr Parsons put a greatprogram together there to
evaluate, to make sure that youknow we are treating the ones
that we can versus the ones wecan't.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I know going under the knife is a big deal,
especially back, because that'sthat.
You know, that's a big, that'sa big part of your body.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, it's kind of like a permanent thing, right,
you know, and to add to you knowfrom from a health care
standpoint, of what you asked,and said because patients, a lot
of patients through the yearshave asked me well, why does you
know?
Why does my medical doctor you?
know, put me on this medicationor why did he order this or do
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this?
He wants to help you and that'sthe tools in his tool belt.
And so if you come to me andyou're in pain, and if I'm going
to use all my tools I have, andif that's the tool that I use,
then that's what happens,because they're there to serve
and help you as much as possible.
Though you know, and a lot oftimes you know, given a steroid
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or anti-inflammatory, it isn'treally it's to help with the
pain and the inflammation, butit's there's no, there's no
conclusion, it's no looking.
Why am I having this pain?
Why am?
Why am I having this pain?
Why am?
Why am I having thisinflammation?
You know, can we do somethingabout it before it becomes
surgical?
And a lot of people don'tunderstand that that if I just
take a medication, well, thatmedication goes throughout the
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whole body.
So that's why there's sideeffects.
It doesn't just go to that painin my back, you know, it goes
everywhere.
And if your body has to breakthat down, but, more importantly
, if you don't look as to why Ihave that pain or why I have
that back pain, and you startworking on that, then you're
gonna end up with some surgery.
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You're headed down that path.
It's no different with knees.
You know, if I give a steroiduh shot, and maybe it works for
two weeks, maybe it works for,you know, three months,
sometimes it works for a year,you know.
But it is going to cause damageto that joint as a side effect.
And you know, especially withknees, patients would ask us
well, why are they giving me thesteroid?
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Because it's their tool intheir tool belt and you're in
pain and it's good for painrelief and it's good for
inflammation, but and it's goodfor inflammation, but it does,
as a side effect, destroy thecartilage.
In the long run you're going toend up, if you don't do
something else, end up with kneereplacement.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
What's a common injury?
You all see a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
We see a lot of car wrecks, whiplash injuries.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
As far as lifting, you know lifting, so our core
holds our back.
Core is the most importantthing we have to always teach
patients to work on is your core.
Your core gets weak, you knowyour hamstrings get short
because we stopped stretchingand so when those things your
hamstrings get short, it's goingto put your lower back in a bad
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position.
Your core is not strong and yougo to lift things up and you do
that repetitively, doing itwrong.
Then the next thing you knowyou're bending over, picking up
your underwear because yourwife's yelling at you.
Pick up your stuff off thefloor and, bam, the back goes
out.
It's just the repetition of toomany things.
Our body can only handle somuch before it's going to break
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down.
And it depends on what theextent of the breakdown is, or
whether chiropractic can helpand serve at that point, or if
it's too late and surgery is apatch.
But then understand thatsurgery is a patch.
But then what are you going todo?
Still build up that core or tolengthen those muscles?
So you've got to lengthen andstrengthen muscles in order to
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support your joints.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So is y'all's dad.
Is he retired Navy?
What brought y'all to Corpus?
Or is that just where y'allwere born?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
No, that's where the military took him, and then he
became a police officer.
He finished up his collegethere.
I think at the time it was A&MCollege Texas.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Texas A&I or Texas A&M it wasn't A&M yet.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh, okay, that's right.
Corpus Christi, I think, justyeah, I don't remember what it
was, but he finished there andthen he became a police officer,
served there.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, it's now Corpus Christi A&M, so A&M bought it
out, but before that it was justa four-year school there,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So serving you just got a family of servants.
That's amazing.
Yeah, you know, with COVID, youknow, I know that had to have a
big impact on y'all's businessbecause y'all are touch business
more face-to-face.
What were some of the struggleswith that?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
We had a lot there at first.
They first considered us asessential, and so we were still
able to serve certain clientelepatients but most people were
just fearful and scared of goinganywhere in the beginning, as
you probably remember right so,you know, it really affected the
business and what we were ableto do, and then we just found
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different ways that we could tryand help um, and then we just
created some protocols toprotect them, protect us, you
know, um as far as you know, webusiness was affected.
obviously it took us a goodwhile to kind of get through all
of the aftermath of COVID.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I could imagine .
I'm glad I didn't open thisbusiness before COVID.
I would have been in sometrouble, you know, because there
ain't much you can do.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, the West End Clinic down at 288,.
We were actually in the middleof moving locations when COVID
hit and, oh my gosh, that was anightmare.
I could imagine Jesus.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You know when people think of chiropractic.
I couldn't even say excuse me,what are some of the myths that
people think when it comes tothat?
Do you all have any?
That people think when it comesto that Do you all have any?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, you know some people, you know they've come to
me through the years and youknow from well, hey, I don't
want my neck to get broke.
Or you know what's thatcracking?
You're cracking bones.
No, no, what's actually we'redoing is just putting normal
motion into a joint.
I always explain.
I used to have to explain it toattorneys the most because they
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didn't quite understand.
But I said imagine your elbowjoint.
That joint is supposed to havefull range of motion.
But what happens if you injurethat area?
Our body wants to protect, soit closes down, locks down.
So muscles are going to spazout, they're going to get tight,
the joint's not going to move.
So now maybe I've only got halfthe range of motion that I've
got or need, and so the musclesshorten up and then the joint
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starts deteriorating, breakingdown because it needs motion.
I always used to tell patientshey, motion, motion.
You know, if that joint doesn'thave motion then it's going to
deteriorate faster.
And so, explaining that to them, we're just putting full normal
range of motion back in thatjoint.
And by stressing that joint,naturally we can also work on
strengthening the smallermuscles that support that joint
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to take pressure off the disc sothe disc doesn't blow um, and
then you know we've had the oldthing.
Well, um, you know you get,just so you can cause a stroke
or what have you.
but I mean there's been so muchresearch and the likelihood of
that is.
I don't remember what thestatistics are, but it's one in
a million or something like that.
But typically what we see andwhat the research shows is
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typically people are alreadygoing through, because when you
start to have a stroke typestroke, it's usually the
symptoms are going to be neckpain, and so that's why it's
really important the headaches,neck pain especially women,
they're very prone for thosetype of symptoms and they'll
come in and for stroke, and soit's.
The chiropractors have to makesure they're doing a proper
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neurological to make sure thatit is safe or they don't have a
patient in their office rightnow that's already pre-stroke,
and get them referred out.
So it's important to make surethat the doctors are doing the
right treatment evaluationprotocols before they lay hands
on the patient.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So how has your experience been working with the
VA?
I know you get a lot ofveterans in there.
I know it's got to feel sometype of way to make that person
who sacrificed so much to beable to live a normal life again
without medication.
How has all that been for youguys?
It's got to be a wonderfulfeeling.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It is actually a wonderful feeling because you
see them come in and they'rehurting and they just don't know
what to do and after being withthem and helping them along the
way, you can start to see themget better.
I guess my frustration with itis that the VA limits also puts
limits on how much we can do,and everybody's different, but
they put the same parametersaround everybody.
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So you know, you know you're alittle bit younger than some of
the ones we get in there, butyou know you probably didn't
have as much wear and tear onyour back as some of the ones
that have gone.
They've had the same damage.
They've done the same thingwith you in the military,
probably had the same type ofinjuries as you, but then those
injuries were never taken careof, so they've spent longer on
those injuries, so it's gotten alot worse.
But to say that they get somany visits and you get the same
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amount, that doesn't make nosense.
And so that's the frustratingpart about it, because we could
do so much more if we weren'tlimited on getting some of these
people back to having theirwhole life, but the ones that
get to us sooner and that's whypart of being on here is I want
people to know that they havethis option and then they go to
the VA.
It is a process to go to the VA,as we all know.
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You first have to get in to seesomebody look at your back and
do all that at the VA.
Once they do that and theyevaluate you and let you know
that, hey, you can do physicaltherapy, you can do chiropractic
those are some of the options Iwas given for my back when I
went back in there oracupuncture, those are the three
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things.
And so once they do that, thenthey can choose chiropractic,
choose whichever one they want.
Well then they'll va, will youknow?
We'll try to get you scheduledin the va.
So if you live that 30 milesaway, you know, or you live that
, um, or they can't get you inwithin a month.
Now that sets you up to go, youknow, into the private sector.
So, um, and then that's kind ofwhat happens is they, they,
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they can't get a man.
Because even when they told methey were going to get me in, it
was almost like eight monthslater before I was going to see
anybody.
I said no, go to the sector.
I was able to see anotherdoctor sooner.
I thought this is the sameprocess that people are coming
to us for.
Let them know it is a process,but once they get that, just
tell them they want communitycare.
They go on there.
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They'll set them up with alocal doctor that's in the area.
Both of our offices in Pearlandare set up to receive them, and
so you have to.
We've already done everythingto be in network, so they'll get
that offer.
Then they just come in.
We do a full evaluation.
Like Dr Parsons was saying.
We want to make sure that thepatient's safe and that this is
something that we believe we cando as well.
So he set up a great process toevaluate them, to put a good
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plan of care together and getthem to their goals and what
they want to do in life.
It's not just about getting ridof the pain.
For us it's getting them backto that life.
You lose your life.
We've had so many people tell us.
They say well it took so much toget you there and they're all
like, yeah, but I was layingaround on a couch, I was doing
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nothing, my life was going awayand now I can get up and do the
things I want to do.
So it's a process, you know,but once you get it through
there and you get them, thelittle bit of treatment we do
get, we can make some progresswith that.
You know I want to work withthe VA and try to open that up
and allow more visits, morethings.
So I've been working on theback end with the VA trying to
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do that myself.
How can we let you know thatsome of these would get better
progress, some of these wouldget better function if we're
able to open it up, becausethey're not all the same.
Right, but you know, it's aprocess for all that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It definitely is, and you know there's so many
veterans.
All that way, it definitely is,and and you know there's so
many veterans, you know um it'sI.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
You know, I don't I, I better not but you know I'm
right there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So when, when it came to to being doc, when it came
to to getting your degree anddoing things of that, what did
you pick?
Why?
Why were you led tochiropractic?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's a really good question.
Being an athlete and I wasalways interested in how the
body worked, the biomechanics ofit, and so it just was.
And then, plus, I had a Dr PatThomas from Corpus Christi.
You know he was leading me thatway.
You know he took care of me.
I had really bad scoliosis whenI was young and he helped keep
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me playing sports through highschool and college until I tore
my shoulder up and then I wenton to chiropractic school
because of his mentoring to meand it just seemed to fit with.
I really wanted to work with thebody naturally, just seemed to
fit with.
I really wanted to work withthe body, naturally.
Um, and you know, our, our dadand our parents, you know,
brought us up to try and takethe natural approach as much as
humanly possible.
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And you know that wasn't veryuh uh or that especially uh,
through the, through the yearsand the decades of change, and
you know that's evolved wherepeople are looking for more
natural solutions versus, youknow, just patching it with
medication or ending up, youknow, on the surgical table.
But, um, you know.
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So I really want to work withthe body, I want to find out
what's the natural approach.
I was intrigued with how thebody worked and, uh, you, know
uh that was awakening, though,my first cadaver class.
Uh, yeah, I think I had doublegloves on that day and I I went
home and I remember that firstday taking a bite of my sandwich
after a long day and I couldstill smell the formaldehyde and
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I vomited.
But second try, I was in there,I could eat it, didn't bother
me at all.
So, you got used to it.
But yeah, to take the wholehuman body apart and truly
understand every piece and howit comes together makes it
really simple.
For when a patient walks in andthey're saying, hey, I've got
pain here, you're going throughyour mind.
You're able to unfoldeverything that's there.
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You know nerves, vascularsystem, muscles, tendons,
ligaments, everything.
So it makes you capable ofserving and being able to help
those joint and muscular issues.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's awesome, man.
I'm glad you know I'mdefinitely going to make an
appointment to come out and seeyou guys.
Actually, I'm going to get onit tomorrow and see when I can
get in there.
What's you know?
It's different.
I see a lot of chiropracticwork on social media now.
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You see everybody's doing thecrack videos and things like
that.
Y'all doing any of that?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm personally not a fan of the crack videos because
I'm not after a crack, becausethat's just gas being released
from the joint, or a crack rightwhat I'm after, because that's
just gas being released from thejoint.
I can create stimulation, nervestimulation or create normal
motion without the crack.
I mean that scares a lot ofpeople.
So we actually provide severaldifferent techniques, because if
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somebody is a history of strokeor cardiovascular issues, then
we don't want to use certaintechniques with those type of
patients and yet we can stillget them better without the
crack if you will.
But I'm not a fan of the crackvideos.
It is a new world out there.
When I started, you know wewere hustling, I had my spine
and I was out doing health talksand teaching and screening and
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it's definitely changed theenvironment.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Especially this day in earth, I mean this day in you
know.
Today you have to have a socialmedia presence and how are?
How are y'all fulfilling that?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
yeah, our doctors, um do actually we do a video
content at least once a week andputting it on our social media
channels.
So we, we kind of picked thatback up and got on it and I used
to do a ton of videos, youtubevideos but I had black hair back
then so those are kind of uh,that's long and gone.
So teaching the younger, uhdocs, and you know they're more,
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they're more preppy of handlingsocial media stuff than we are,
jerry and I have had to learnit.
Jerry tries to stay away from it, but as much as possible, but I
still like doing the videos andhelping um in any way.
And then I do a lot of articlesand stuff for our website as
far as content on differentthings, to kind of help guide
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people that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I didn't.
I've know y'all, y'all probablyreceived a lot of uh community
support.
I'm paralleling.
It's just an amazing city.
I talk nothing but amazingthings besides traffic.
I talk nothing but amazingthings about this place yeah,
well, a lot of times I tellpeople they're like well, how,
what do you feel about this sideof town?
I'll be like I'll be honestwith you.
There's a certain road that Idon't go past because that
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traffic is is insane over thereyeah, you know, you know what I
mean.
I stay over here in old Pearlandit's just, it's different, but
you know that's amazing man.
What are some of the?
Give me some of the give me abest experience that you've seen
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, maybe with the patient outcome.
There you go, best outcomeyou've seen or something that
strikes that you remember.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
This one.
You know, and I don't know ifDr Parsons remembers this one,
but when I first came there, itwas almost.
I think I got there in Augustof 2011, and I believe this was
right before Christmas.
Going into that little part,when I realized I was in the
right place was there was a carthat drove up.
We actually walked out to thecar.
This patient could not get outof his car.
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Three of us picked him up,brought him into the clinic and
Dr Parsons at the time was inthere and the associate doctor
and they treated him.
They literally did everythingthey could that day examined him
, found out what was wrong withhim, did some treatment on him
and to watch him after theytreated him, find out what was
wrong with him, did sometreatment on him and to watch
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him, after they treated him,walk out on his own after that.
I mean it just goes to show,you know the Karen and
everything else, and at thatpoint I knew where I was at, I
knew that this was the rightapproach for me.
I knew this was but I mean justlittle things like that.
Or, or, you know, helping thekids.
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I mean, um, you know, peopledon't realize the first
traumatic injury that you haveis birth and people wonder why
kids, you know, babies, certainbabies, you know, have colic or
certain dayit.
I mean when you have a nerveand you have pressure on a nerve
that's not functioning properlycauses problems, so they have
subluxations right, release thesubluxations and the nerves can
start to function better.
It's just amazing the stuffthat I've learned over the last
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12 years being there just fromthe doctors.
It's just amazing that theyhappen and in my only experience
was it.
You know, I was lucky.
Like he said, our fatherbrought us up that way but a
chiropractor, dr thomas, got mydad to be able to continue to be
a police officer after one ofhis wrecks and that's what
really brought it home to us.
And you know, one time Iremember the time I was five
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years old and I hurt my neckjust by bending over in the
bathtub and they called it acrick in the neck at the time.
It's the only thing I rememberand I hurt so bad.
But you know, for him to callup his doctor, dr Thomas, it was
late and he goes meet me at theoffice, went in there and you
know I was scared because he'sgrabbing my neck, not sure what
to do, but all of a sudden hedid what he did and I was like
that's it and he goes, yep, andI got up and the pain was gone.
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Everything was great because Iwas in his office three days a
week during football to keep meup on the football field and
keep me playing baseball andkept me.
You know the things going.
So you know it was a differenceof life and for me to be able
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to get back now and seedifferent things like that, it's
an amazing experience.
You know, to see it from otheravenues, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
You know, doc, you said something and it keeps
playing in my head.
Are you talking to me or Jerry?
Cause, jerry sounds like a doctoo.
Yeah, I think I've rubbed offon him.
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Hey, that is, that's it.
But something you said kind ofkeeps popping in my head.
It's just it's not about thecrack, it's not about the pop,
no, so so in, I guess we don'tlike me as an outsider, don't
know anything about chiropracticwork, and and we assume that
that's what it is yeah, I know,I know it's, it's um, it's a
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fallacy of understanding.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And again, it's just like anything and when, you know
, is communication andunderstanding what it is that
we're trying to accomplish, andI think a lot of doctors do a
really poor job of explainingwhat you're getting and what
you're not getting, and that wassomething I always tried to
make sure that the patientsunderstood.
Are you looking for symptomrelief or are you looking to try
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and find out what theunderlying cause is and see what
we can do about that?
Because that's a differentamount of time, that's a
different commitment, that'sdifferent financial situation.
You know so.
You know our motto now.
You know, um, that that jerryand I have for the clinics is
you know, we want to get youback to your life as soon as
possible.
We want what you want.
So if it's taking you out ofplaying with your grandkids or
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taking you out of doinggardening or riding your bike or
whatever, it is okay.
We want to resolve that problem, get you back as quickly as
possible, whatever that is.
But we want to also try andteach you to understand how your
body works.
But a lot of times when peoplecome in in the beginning, a lot
of chiropractors willover-inundate the education and
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when people are in pain theydon't hear anything.
They don't even remember.
Even if they're not in thatsevere pain, they're not going
to remember half the things youtold them.
So the best thing to do is tounderstand what's wrong and
determine whether you can helpthem or not, and understand what
their immediate results orgoals are, so that you can make
sure you can meet thoseexpectations and make sure that
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you're the right fit or thatit's.
It's it is a chiropractic issue, you know um.
So to understand what we'redoing, along with understanding
how the body works, it'sstimulating, like we use also
what's called an arthro stem andwe can just stimulate, and it's
actual vibration of stimulatingthose facet joints.
And it's stimulating themechanoreceptors, which are
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little.
I don't want to get tootechnical here, but you know
mechanoreceptors is how I knowwhere my hand is or finger is
pointing, without seeing it.
So those are communicating backand forth to our brain, all our
nervous system.
If you took everything away andyou looked at, you would see a
perfect image of a body if justthe nerves were there.
That's, how many nerves arethere?
I mean, try and poke yourselfwith a knife and see if you
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can't feel it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Right.
Unless you got nerve damageRight.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But understanding that and everything in life is
energy, vibration and frequency.
So if we understand that and wetreat the body and work because
we use the vibration plates inour clinic as well to help
stimulate, you know a lot ofgood things in the body from
growth fractures and decreasedstress.
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You know cortisol, stuff likethat.
But to understand what theadjustments are, sometimes some
patients want to know it andsome patients don't want to
understand it.
Did I answer your question?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yes, Okay, yes.
So I have a question.
So I know you'll probably get alot of veterans that have neck
issues due to wearing Kevlar,the Kevlar helmet all the time,
pressing against the I don'tknow how the body works, but I'm
assuming pressing the spine.
You know what is somethingalong those lines that y'all do
to relieve that kind of pain?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
So are we dealing with, you know, a long-term
effect to where it's actuallyaffecting the disc, or is it
just affecting?
You know the muscles aren'tsupporting the neck anymore and
so we need to put them throughsome therapy.
But we actually use a form ofdecompression as well.
So we use that a lot of timeswith our disc patients, like if
they got the sciatica orradicular pain down their leg.
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So we're dealing usually with adisc problem in the lower back
and so we'll use thatdecompression.
And what decompression does?
It kind of creates a vacuumeffect.
So we're actually going to justslowly decompress that disc and
what that does is it allows tosuck that fluid back into the
center, because the disc is likelittle tires, little rubber
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tires, layers of them, and thosetreads can get loose and torn
from all the compression wherethe muscles aren't supporting
properly.
So if we're talking about yourneck, the disc fibers will tear
and that fluid will seep out tothe weak point.
The weak point is usually rightwhere the nerve comes out.
It's straight back and to theside, and that's where those
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nerves come out on both sides.
Or it can actually go centraland it can get the spinal cord
affecting both sides as well.
So it just really depends wherethat disc is actually bulged out
.
And so if we do thatdecompression, we'll unload that
disc.
It irritates those outer fibers.
To help the body heal, and thenwe try and work on
strengthening the muscles andworking on their posture with
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their neck to put the head in abetter position, because you
think about, average head weighs10 pounds and we're holding
this 10 pound melon up there allday.
And then you you know militaryfootball players, helmets and
things like that impacts, falls,bumps, bruises.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You know it's, it's going to break down a little bit
sooner than than uh, than it'ssupposed to last do y'all see a
lot of uh, I know, with thisgeneration now in days it's a
lot of looking down.
You know, look down, look downcell phones, things, laptops all
that.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Is that what it's called?
They have an actual name nowfor it, for what?
The kids today with tech neckbecause they're all on their
phones, they're doing all thatthey're going to have so many
more problems because they don't, they don't ever get to develop
the curve in their neck, whichis the curve is important so
that the nerves can function.
And you know, again, learningall this but that's what we have
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to know in this industry isthat the kids today, just by
doing that, you know, we used to, our parents used to get talked
about because they put us infront of the TV, because the TV,
when we were young, was a newinvention.
Right, the remote was me goingup there for my dad right.
But we would sit down and lookup at our our tv to watch it.
But nowadays, you know that'shelping.
(40:05):
Now everybody looks down,they're on a lap, they're on an
ipad, they're on their laptop.
So you know, I even see mygrandchildren do that today you
know I was like I had to tell mydaughter you know that's not
good for their neck, but youknow it's just seeing.
That is different.
But I wanted to go.
Dr partner was you know yourquestioner?
I wanted to.
I had a thought on that.
Was that, um, about themilitary?
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And the next something like that, something that was really just
amazing to me to understand,was we have some big guys come
in that have worked out.
They're muscular, you can seehow big their muscles.
They probably lift a lot ofweight.
But my dog was doing this exam.
Have worked out, they'remuscular, you can see how big
their muscles are.
They can probably lift a lot ofweight.
But my dog was doing this examon him and what they're looking
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at is can the muscles actuallyrespond the same on both sides?
So part of their exam is tocheck the muscles to see if the
nerves function properly and tosee this big old broiler guy
that can't lock out the doctorthat's just pushing down his arm
because the nerve is beingimpinged and even though he can
lift all the weights up but fromone hand he can lock him out
and hold him up but the otherone just falls away, that's the
nerve being impeded from thathelmet or whatever the traumatic
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injury is and it's just puttingpressure on that nerve so to
relieve that, all of a suddenyou're going to be able to use
that muscle again.
You're not doing that and Ilike to look at it as seeing
x-rays in the office.
It was just astonishing when Istarted working there, but it's
like looking at people's teethand seeing the decay in your
teeth you'd go do somethingabout it.
Most people don't look at theirspine, see the decay happening
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because they're not taking careof it and so just to go in and
and we tell people you're when'sthe last time you went and had
your nervous system checked?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I don't think nobody checks it.
Nobody checks it no matterwhere, right.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
But that's why you I mean you get your teeth checked
twice a year, but yet when's thelast time you had your nervous
system checked?
That's something we're doing ischecking to see how function it
is.
Rather, somebody decides theywant to do something.
At least they know what's goingon and they know where they're
headed, you know, and it's decay, basically of the spine, and
this is why you look around.
We see more and more hospitalsbeing out there, but really the
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homes that have to take care ofpeople are growing and growing
because we didn't do the thingswe should have done when we were
younger and take care of ourhealth.
I'll steal this from Dr Parsonsbecause it really resonated
with me a long time ago.
You get a health fund whenyou're born and it's full, just
like your bank account, andeverything we do in life takes
away from the health fund.
So what are you doing to putback in that health fund so that
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when you're ready to retire,you're ready to do the things
you love to do, you have yourhealth?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
We don't Dang.
That makes sense.
Yeah, you dumbed it down for meright there.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
It's kind of funny, you know Jerry talks about it.
You know it's nice sitting backhere going.
Man, I actually I did.
I guess I did a pretty good jobteaching I'm a good teacher
after all but you know it was.
I saw a video the other day andtalking about this, but Jerry
brought up the health account.
(43:01):
It was, uh, I think it was avideo with uh, katherine,
katherine hegel and the actress,27 dresses and and things and
she said her purpose was aboutdogs and taking care of dogs.
And she was.
I was listening to this she'stalking about it's the food that
we feed our dogs, why they havejoint problems, hair problems,
scalp problems and all thesethey're.
They're aging before theirtheir time and they're not as
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active.
And you start giving them good,healthy food, they start being
active and having health and I'mlike this is what we're
teaching.
We should be teaching thepublic.
It's the foods that we'reeating has so much processed
stuff in it and chemicals.
That's building up anddetoxifying our body.
This is why we have the jointproblem.
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Man, we do this clear and repairon our patients.
It's a six-week thing and, man,they can't believe how well
they feel.
It's like you have all thesetoxins that you've done for 50
years, 40 years, 30 years, eventhat build up and it doesn't
allow your body to process.
We get people to clean up theirdiet.
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Along with what we do.
We teach them our three mainthings is lengthen and
strengthen muscles, get good,normal joint motion in the joint
, make sure the joint stayshealthy, make sure the nerves
are feeding your body correctlyand then teach them about how
they can change their lifestyle,their diet and put good things
in.
I mean, you think about it thebest vitamin D to help hair and
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nails and your immune system isfrom the sun.
So if we can put good, healthythings in the body, we're going
to get good healthy things backout of it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, you know I'm guilty of it.
We are the fast way.
I'm tired.
I got home I'm just gonna throwsomething in the microwave or
stop at the local fast food youknow, it's just, it's a lot
easier yeah, I know it is.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Hey, you know health is not easy, you're right.
You know it's like everybodyasks how do you keep you know,
exercising, going to the gym?
I'm like, well, I don't like itor love it, but I know what the
consequences are.
If I don't, I'm not going toget to.
I don't want to end up in achair, I don't want to end up
somebody taking care of me, Idon't want my wife to have to
push me around in a wheelchair.
(45:14):
And so, if I can lead byexample because I always
remember people saying, you know, I went to my doctor and he
told me I need to quit smokingand I smell smoke on his hands I
didn't want to be that guy, Iwanted to lead by example.
And so you know, I don't makeit all the time.
(45:34):
I love Mexican food, I loveflour tortillas and throwing
some cheese on there and somebutter and everything else, but
you know, again, it's moderation.
And so, like some patients saylook okay, if you eat fast food
seven days a week, let's try six, let's try five.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, you know, that makes sense, man, I see that.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Let's win, let's just have a win man.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
That's what's up.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
What are, um man?
So y'all are?
Y'all have two locations herein Paralympic.
Yes, sir, and what are waysthat people can find you if they
wanted to reach out to you?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
So we actually have one website for both locations.
It's called premierchirotxcomis the website, and then we have
two different, different phonenumbers.
281-485-2955 is is uh, the 2018east down by the original
gringos and dixie and then jerry, what's the?
(46:31):
Do you got that?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
11 to uh, the other um address is 11470 um and
that's Broadway Street, suite110.
Suite 110.
It's actually the easy way Ialways like to tell people.
It's down there by.
We're in between one badrestaurant, one good, healthy
restaurant.
We're right in the middle ofboth of them, but we're in the
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town center.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Right on the corner there, right on the corner right
there, he's talking about Cavaand donut place.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh yeah, crispy cream yeah, I'm a, I'm a.
I'm a shipley's man myself, butI know it's, I know it's me.
Yeah, so um a piece of adviceyou would offer the listener,
you both don't my.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
My best advice I tell people is is understand what
the difference is between aninjury and overworked um, that's
probably the best piece ofadvice.
So a lot of people don'tunderstand.
So if, if I overdo something,like a weekend warrior or
something like that, or yardwork, that is usually going to
clear up in a couple days, days,right, that's going to be
soreness and stuff, but if it'ssticking with you a week, two
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weeks, you got an injury.
Get to somebody that can helpyou.
And chiropractic, that's ourspecialty.
You know musculoskeletal,neurological conditions.
You know when dealing with thespine or the joints, don't wait,
because it just your body'sgoing to adapt to that and it's
going to do different things.
Like, we work with a lot ofshoulders and knees and it's
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usually fixing the biomechanicsof the joint so that the brain
is communicating to the muscles,because you've got muscles on
one side of the joint andmuscles on the other side and
they've got to work together.
One's got to relax and one'sgot to contract, right.
But when they're not workingright, you no longer have a
sliding door for that knee,right, but when they're not
working right, you no longerhave a sliding door for that
knee.
You actually got a sliding doorout of the track and that knee
is going to wear out faster.
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So that's why we tell peoplewhen you injure something, let's
get that joint fixed correctly,the biomechanics and that joint
will last longer.
It's when they come to us orthey wait too long and we tell
them you know, unfortunatelyyou're going to need back
surgery.
It's too gone.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, jerry, what you got.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
My easiest one is that people always think
problems will go away.
Have you ever known a problemto go away?
No, problems do not.
So when, like he says, when youfirst get that if you wait long
enough the pain will go away,it doesn't mean the problem's
gone, it's just your body hasadapted to it and has dealt with
it.
And then, when the problem getsa little bit worse, you'll feel
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it again because a differentnerve sensation has picked up.
Now it's a worse of a problem.
So people think that they bentover and picked up a pen.
No, you gotta go all the wayback 10 years ago when you're in
that accident, and you ignoredit right, okay that's why you're
invested, so don't ignorethings.
Here's the thing if your enginelight in your car went off and
you weren't sure why, you'd goget it checked out, right yeah,
(49:29):
or would you?
Speaker 3 (49:29):
oh yeah, I don't know , you use the duct tape.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I put a picture over the light.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
So that's exactly what people do to their body.
But you know what, ron, it'sokay for your car, why?
Because if you look out here,you can always go get another
one.
Right, right, right.
When are you going to?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
get another.
You, oh yeah, I mean not, Iguess that makes sense 100%.
Yeah, wow, you know, andthere's a you know, so I still
keep going back.
So there's a big differencebetween y'all have in and outs
chiropractic and then an actualchiropractic facility.
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There's a big differencebetween those, huh.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
There is, and that's where it's important for the
patients to know what they'rereally looking for, because
sometimes they don't understandthat.
So a lot of times when I havefamily or friends that are out
of state and they'll call me andask me hey, I'm having
so-and-so.
Okay, so you know this is whatyou need to look for, because
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there is a difference and a lotof people don't understand that.
You know there's chiropracticout there to where they won't do
, you know, an examination, orthey won't do x-rays and they're
only evaluating from, you know,maybe an overuse type of injury
or just trying to maintain, youknow, joint motion, and so
there's some chiropractics thatI kind of think of them like,
(50:53):
kind of like a massage envy.
You know they're justday-to-day things, but when it's
an actual bad injury theyusually usually those type of
chiropractic offices refer outto other offices, you know.
So there there is a differenceand a lot of chiropractors
practice all difference, becauseyou got some chiropractors just
do nutrition.
They're just that's what theywant to tackle.
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and then you got some that donutrition and some that just do
straight chiropractic.
Just adjust no x-rays, notherapy, no, nothing.
They're just going to adjust.
You know what you're getting,know what you're not getting.
I just never like to guess.
That was kind of our motto.
Um, we test, we don't guessthat's a good one.
Uh, you know, that's definitelysomething when it comes down to
(51:35):
functional medicine andevaluating somebody from a blood
and nutritional level, uh, ofwhat's really going on under the
hood.
It's opening the hood up andlooking at what's really going
on.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
You know, something you said today is going to stick
with me.
It's not about the pop, and alot of times that's what us
normal people that aren knowfamiliar with chiropractic go
for and like to hear and thinkthat that okay, that made me
feel better.
Or, you know, I heard the pop,so it's a good thing, but uh,
(52:12):
god that that it makes me thinkdifferent now.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
So yeah, that got there.
That's actually a gas and and Ihad to, as I learned it from
just practicing through theyears when I would have patients
.
I mean it's crazy how long I'vebeen around, but I remember
treating mom and pregnant with ababy and then I actually
married him off a couple yearsago.
That's how long I've beenaround, so being able to see
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people and as their spines agedwith me and you would see the
spines as they age, they don'tbuild up.
You don't get a lot of that gasthat builds up in that joint and
you don't get that pop.
So we're not after that pop,definitely, and you're no
different than a lot of otherpatients out there and they feel
(52:57):
like they're getting cheated.
Or I didn't get a goodtreatment because there wasn't a
pop.
But again, the key is that theprovider that's treating you
makes sure that the joint hasnormal motion, because we can
give a bad adjustment where, hey, you just didn't move, there's
muscles too spasmodic, too tight, hey, we'll do some stretching,
let's get you back and I'll seeyou again.
We'll get a better treatment onit.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Sometimes that takes that too wow or I think the way
to look at it is if you takeyour knuckle and you pull your
joint right there at yourknuckle, you'll see that it
moves right, right.
Sometimes you'll hear that pop,okay, but it doesn't.
But sometimes I can still movethat joint and there's no air
coming out there, no pop.
So it's still moving rightright and so we want to get
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normal function movement backinto the joint.
So that's kind of the simpleterm of why you don't get the
pump.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
See I like that man, you guys you really like.
You're awesome, jerry y'allsound like y'all love what y'all
do absolutely.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
I just want people to be well educated on what?
Because I wasn't, you know,even though I went to.
You know I loved mychiropractor as going through
high school and kids, but Ididn't learn what I've learned
since being here and understandit so myself after leaving high
school.
Do you think I saw achiropractor when I was in the
military or after the military?
Speaker 3 (54:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
I just went.
I heard I wanted to go see onebecause I know they could do it.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
But I really never got educated on why I should
have been seeing one more on aregular basis to stay better
healthy until I came here andstarted working with my brother
and learned all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
That's amazing.
Well, y'all definitely kickedme in the butt.
I'm definitely going to bevisiting you guys really soon
and you know we wanted to shareinformation and I honestly think
that that's what was done todayduring this time, and I want to
tell you both thank you foryour service, honestly, thank
you for what you do and thankyou for helping our brothers and
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sisters get back right.
And you know that's something Isaid that and I got chills
because that's how sincere I amwith it.
You know, getting them off themedication is an amazing thing
in itself and I say that as arecovering addict that it is
something that needs to be done.
(55:08):
You know, because we are fedmedications and you know we
think it's the fix, but a lot oftimes you know it's not and
it's just doing more damage.
Think it's the fix, but a lotof times you know it's not and
it's just doing more damage andyou get to a point where you
feel like you can't live withoutit and you find it elsewhere.
You know it gets bad.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah, it snowballs.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Right, it definitely does.
So I want to thank you guys forbeing here and for sharing this
information.
I appreciate it and um, wouldyou guys have any last comments
you'd like to say?
Speaker 3 (55:40):
No, I just appreciate you having us on and you know
my purpose at this point in mylife is just to serve and add
value where I can to people'slives.
Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
Raul, I just want to thank you for giving us this
opportunity to share with you.
But, you know, learning alittle bit about you and what
you do in the community isawesome the fact that you know a
lot of what you're doing is tohelp the military and help the
veterans that they don't know,and that takes a lot.
I mean you finding that out anddoing that, you're helping out
veterans out there too, and Ijust appreciate that there's
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somebody out there doing that,because it does mean a lot, I
appreciate it, brother, thankyou, thank you and you guys
always.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Thank you for tuning in.
Be sure to check out.
Check out Premier Chiropracticon what?
Speaker 2 (56:29):
was the website PremierChiroTXcom.
There you go and, as always, besure to check on your friends
and family.
If you're in a crisis, be sureto call 988 or you could even
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If you're a military veteran,press 1.
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This is Charlie Mike thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yo, what's going on everybody?
Welcome back to another episodeof Charlie Mike the podcast.
As always, I'm your host, Raul,today.
We got two special guests inthe building today and I'm going
to allow them the opportunityto introduce themselves.
Who wants to go first?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
After you.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
My name is Jerry Parsons.
I work out at PremierChiropractic.
I've been there now for 12years and love helping out the
community, love helping givepeople their life back.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So it's been great.
That's awesome.
Where are you from originally?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Originally from.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Corpus Christi.
Corpus Christi, so you're Texasborn and through All the way
through.
Yeah, what about yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So my name is Dr James Parsons, been practicing
chiropractor here now inPearland for 30 years.
I have two locations and justreally enjoyed the Pearland
community Friendswood area.
Surrounding communities havebeen really nice.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So let's start Tell me a little bit about y'all's
past, your upbringing.
You know who you are, how yougot into chiropractic?
Chiropractic, yeah,chiropractic, I don't know
Chiropractic, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Chiropractic.
So you know I was an athlete.
We're up, both of us.
We're brothers, obviously.
What, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'rebrothers.
You know we grew up down inCorpus Christi and you know I
went to college thinking that Iwas going to play baseball the
rest of my life, ended up takingpre-med while I was there.
(02:05):
Good thing I had a backup planand I always said if that didn't
work out, I was going to be ateacher.
So it's kind of come fullcircle where I'm teaching now
more than practicing or playingbaseball.
So I came to Houston, pasadena,with the TCC Graduated in 94.
Houston, Pasadena, with the TCCGraduated in 94.
(02:25):
And my wife and I at the timewe started working and bought a
practice here in Pearland it'scalled Back Pain Chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Back Pain.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, back Pain Chiropractic we started there.
She started there first in 94.
And then in June of 97, webought it from the guy out of
Baton Louisiana.
Yeah, wow, we've been here eversince and I've been going solo
for a while there in 2002.
(02:55):
And we opened up, I guess about11 years ago, the second
location down at 288, asPearland just kept growing and
growing.
And now Jerry's you know meabout what?
12 years ago, yep, 12 years ago.
And he's been a godsend, that'sfor sure.
He's brought in the pieces ofthe business side that were
(03:16):
missing from me in training andhe's good with spreadsheets too.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, if you can't trust your brother, who can you
trust, right?
Oh yeah, that's true.
I know business is a hard thingand it's hard to find people
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You can trust Exactly .
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Especially when it comes to cash and things of that
nature.
I know it's difficult, butthat's amazing.
So you've been in Pearlandsince 94?
Yeah, yeah, what you've seenthe growth.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh yeah, pearland has changed so much.
You know, I think it used totake us what like five minutes
to get from one end to the other.
Now it's faster to take theBeltway around to get to the
other end.
Oh goodness.
With all the traffic lights.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's crazy isn't it?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, pearland's just blown up traffic lights.
But it's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, apparently just blown up,and you know, I the uh, you
know where the original practiceis.
You know, used to be fields outthere, I used to be the
outskirts, apparently, and Ijust swallowed up yeah, where
exactly?
The it's at 20180.
Broadway street was where weoriginally started and, uh, yeah
(04:22):
, there was a driving range outon the corner of Dixie there.
Now it's a Walmart parking lotand Home.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Depot.
Yeah, yeah, wow.
So you definitely seen thegrowth.
Do you reside here in?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Pearland?
No, I live in Friendswood.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
In Friendswood.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Okay, yeah, I used to live in Pearland until I had uh
.
I guess uh change uh in mymarital status.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah, I won't talk too much
about that, but yeah, Iunderstand, I understand you
have kids.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I have two adopted kids, oh nice, nice the older.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Trevor he's 31, and Gracie is 23.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I was going to say you don't got, don't got babies,
no, no, they're, they're,they're off married, but are
they are?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
they ever not gonna be your babies, though you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, she always will, yeah, definitely definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I got, uh, two girls and they are pains in the asses.
I just told y'all about thenetflix story.
She just called me at fouro'clock in the morning and was
like hey dad, what's?
What's the Netflix password?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, that's never a good call, never a good call
Never, never what you got, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So I was, you know, born and raised in Corpus
Christi, Kind of had a directionof being an electrical engineer
and kind of had also thought ofgoing into the military.
So you know, my dad was in theNavy and I thought, you know
what, I think I want to go tothe Navy.
A couple of my cousins werejoining the Navy at the time and
so I thought, you know what,that's what I want to do.
(05:52):
And so I kind of stopped doingall that and headed towards the
Navy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So it took me off.
No other branch was even athought, not even a thought
there you go.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I knew it was Navy if I was going in.
Yeah, and maybe a little bit ofCoast Guard was in the
background Because of your dad.
Yeah, it was more dad, and whathe did.
I mean he was in some divingout there, so he was a rescue
diver for a while in the Navy.
My cousin had gone into theNavy SEALs and I was just like,
okay, oh, wow yeah.
(06:26):
But unfortunately when therecruiter signed me up he didn't
let me know that what he wassigning me up for.
I could not try out for theNavy SEALs back then, so a
little bit stayed in themilitary, got a medical
discharge out of there.
Really was planning on stayingfor a career out of it, but
unfortunately God had somethingelse for me.
(06:46):
So, got out, worked inCalifornia because I was
stationed out there, had twosmall children and worked in the
electronic field out there fora while.
And then my brother came outone summer and we talked about
it and I knew what I was doing.
It wasn't making a differencein lives, you know, it was just.
(07:09):
It was just the work.
You know, it was just runningcompanies and being going
different places to fix issuesand I just felt like there was
something more for me out there.
There's something that I wantedto do to give back.
You know, and you know I feellike I wasn't a doctor, I wasn't
able to do that, but to comehelp doctors and us, to provide
for more people out there, thatwas a calling.
That was something that Ireally saw myself doing.
So I made the transaction withthe family.
(07:31):
I had two children that wereseniors.
They didn't like the move.
I had a child that was injunior high and I had a young
one that was in second grade.
So you know the whole familyhelped and we decided to move
and you know it was a littlerough in the beginning but
wouldn't change that foranything because seeing patients
get better, seeing patients gettheir lives back, getting back
(07:52):
to doing the things they love todo, and without surgery and
without drugs.
I mean, it was just somethingthat was like.
It was an awesome feeling toknow that the little bit that
I'm doing is also helpingtowards that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Did you always have that heart of giving back, or is
it something that like cause?
I know a lot of veterans thatthat turns out to be.
Their mission is how can I help?
What can I do next?
How can I help the next person?
Is that something you saw inyourself?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
It actually is.
You know, it's funny cause,even though we're brothers and
you know, I always, I always sawmyself as possibly being a
teacher one day.
I like to teach, I like to help.
I've always had that mentalityand you know, just something
that I think our dad put in us,you know, is how can we help
others?
You know, what can we do togive?
And I don't know if it was themilitary, I don't know what
really set it home.
(08:36):
It was just I knew I was doingsomething out there and just
making money, paying bills andraising family wasn't enough.
It was how can I give?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Right, right, right.
You know it's crazy.
You both said teachers.
What was the subject?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Was there a particular subject that you
wanted to teach in?
Would you think in a certaingrade, or just no?
I think, as far as when I sayteaching is being able to, just
you know, educate people andgive back and I think you know
serving is probably one of thebest callings you can have you
know, uh, while we're here onearth, is is to serve in some
capacity, right, you know, Ievery I think every member of my
family um cousins and everybodyelse I knew were in the
(09:18):
military and I just, you know,um, the baseball thing took me
to health care and serving thereand it's been a reward, you
know, a reward when I wastreating and helping patients
here and then teaching youngdoctors how to serve and how to
take care of patients and how tocommunicate and how to get
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people to understand what youknow, what we can and cannot do.
I think it's just serving ismaybe ties to that teaching.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
to answer your question, Okay, what about
yourself, jerry?
Mine was always I loved math,and so I always saw myself
teaching math, because evengoing through high school, I
would always find myself.
You know the teachers would belooking at me and you know I
wasn't.
I wasn't given answers, but Iwas helping people understand
even back then, and so I alwayshad that calling of you know I
(10:12):
could see myself doing math butjust didn't work out that way.
I went in a different direction.
I think that's why you know Ichose military too is how can I
you?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
know how can.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I serve, serve.
How can I do something biggerand better so?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
you know I was.
I've been a fan of math, butonce they started throwing
letters in there, yeah, I waslike I heard about.
Yeah, you know, that's too muchfor me.
You know, I even tell mydaughter too.
My daughter's like why do I gotto learn this?
I was like baby, do you plan onbeing a scientist?
She's like no, I said you don'tknow that.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know.
It's funny you say that, butthe uh the.
The problem came up the otherday is I.
We just bought a new place.
Um, after my daughter graduatedhigh school, we moved out to
santa fe and there's a flagpolein on the property, but the rope
going up to it looks like it'skind of frail and if I put a
flag on there.
I'm afraid it's gonna break, andthen I don't know how I'm gonna
get up there right so actuallythere's a trick to find out how
(11:05):
tall the flagpole is bymathematics Just using your arm,
putting it out and putting astick up and counting your
distance from one way and makesure it's the right angle, and
then you know your distance onthe other side.
It's out there.
Math can help.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I'm with you.
You would have seen me outthere with a tape measure trying
to get to the top.
You know like what is?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
this crazy guy doing.
That's what I would have beendoing.
That's way too tall.
I still would have tried.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I was like well, that's about halfway, so double
that, yeah, exactly eyeball it.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, that's too funny, eyeball man yeah, golly
so.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Um, you know, I love, I love what y'all keep saying
about wanting to help andhelping, not wanting to help.
You are helping and you knowright now especially, you know
as a veteran, that the military,they throw drugs at you left
and right.
You know, a lot of times ofcourse the intention is well but
it's just not always the rightthing, and I see that.
(12:07):
So you know, a lot of us comeout with back issues, neck
issues, things like that.
And I'm sure you all see a lotof that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Absolutely.
I mean, it took me a while tofigure out what the VA could do
for me and couldn't do for me,because when I got the medical
discharge I just thought thatwas it, I was done, you know,
and you know, years went by,years went by and then finally
somebody ran into me and saidhey, you know that you could get
more help through the VA thanwhat you're doing.
I go, like what?
And it took somebody showing meand you know, here it was.
(12:38):
You know, probably a couple ofyears ago we started getting
veterans coming to us because welearned how to get into the
network with the va, you know,as providers and be able to give
that away.
There was a time that we justput on our, we took in once a
month.
We would just treat a veteran,just just because it was just
one once a month we take it.
If a veteran came in, we wouldjust take care of them, you know
(12:59):
, and give back to them, um,hardly, because that's what we
do.
We we want to help out, butalso knowing their struggles and
what sometimes the VA can'thelp them with, and so that was
one thing.
But once we got into being ableto get referrals from the VA
and actually people actuallygetting them off their
medications because when youtalk to them they don't want to
be on the medications.
Because the medications just areputting them in a different
(13:21):
mindset in the first place, andthe pain's still there when they
come out.
So we've had a lot of people youknow come to us and thank us
for being able to treat them andget them back to a natural way
of looking at it so you know,that's one of the reasons why,
you know, I want to kind of getthe message out there that you
know there's other veterans herein Pearland that I know we can
help and they don't have to relyjust on the medication, they
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don't have to rely on a possiblesurgery that goes wrong, and so
there are, and sometimes theymay be on us, but at least give
us.
you know our doctors are reallygood.
You know Dr Parsons put a greatprogram together there to
evaluate, to make sure that youknow we are treating the ones
that we can versus the ones wecan't.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I know going under the knife is a big deal,
especially back, because that'sthat.
You know, that's a big, that'sa big part of your body.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, it's kind of like a permanent thing, right,
you know, and to add to you knowfrom from a health care
standpoint, of what you asked,and said because patients, a lot
of patients through the yearshave asked me well, why does you
know?
Why does my medical doctor you?
know, put me on this medicationor why did he order this or do
(14:32):
this?
He wants to help you and that'sthe tools in his tool belt.
And so if you come to me andyou're in pain, and if I'm going
to use all my tools I have, andif that's the tool that I use,
then that's what happens,because they're there to serve
and help you as much as possible.
Though you know, and a lot oftimes you know, given a steroid
(14:54):
or anti-inflammatory, it isn'treally it's to help with the
pain and the inflammation, butit's there's no, there's no
conclusion, it's no looking.
Why am I having this pain?
Why am?
Why am I having this pain?
Why am?
Why am I having thisinflammation?
You know, can we do somethingabout it before it becomes
surgical?
And a lot of people don'tunderstand that that if I just
take a medication, well, thatmedication goes throughout the
(15:15):
whole body.
So that's why there's sideeffects.
It doesn't just go to that painin my back, you know, it goes
everywhere.
And if your body has to breakthat down, but, more importantly
, if you don't look as to why Ihave that pain or why I have
that back pain, and you startworking on that, then you're
gonna end up with some surgery.
(15:36):
You're headed down that path.
It's no different with knees.
You know, if I give a steroiduh shot, and maybe it works for
two weeks, maybe it works for,you know, three months,
sometimes it works for a year,you know.
But it is going to cause damageto that joint as a side effect.
And you know, especially withknees, patients would ask us
well, why are they giving me thesteroid?
(15:56):
Because it's their tool intheir tool belt and you're in
pain and it's good for painrelief and it's good for
inflammation, but and it's goodfor inflammation, but it does,
as a side effect, destroy thecartilage.
In the long run you're going toend up, if you don't do
something else, end up with kneereplacement.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
What's a common injury?
You all see a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
We see a lot of car wrecks, whiplash injuries.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
As far as lifting, you know lifting, so our core
holds our back.
Core is the most importantthing we have to always teach
patients to work on is your core.
Your core gets weak, you knowyour hamstrings get short
because we stopped stretchingand so when those things your
hamstrings get short, it's goingto put your lower back in a bad
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position.
Your core is not strong and yougo to lift things up and you do
that repetitively, doing itwrong.
Then the next thing you knowyou're bending over, picking up
your underwear because yourwife's yelling at you.
Pick up your stuff off thefloor and, bam, the back goes
out.
It's just the repetition of toomany things.
Our body can only handle somuch before it's going to break
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down.
And it depends on what theextent of the breakdown is, or
whether chiropractic can helpand serve at that point, or if
it's too late and surgery is apatch.
But then understand thatsurgery is a patch.
But then what are you going todo?
Still build up that core or tolengthen those muscles?
So you've got to lengthen andstrengthen muscles in order to
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support your joints.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So is y'all's dad.
Is he retired Navy?
What brought y'all to Corpus?
Or is that just where y'allwere born?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
No, that's where the military took him, and then he
became a police officer.
He finished up his collegethere.
I think at the time it was A&MCollege Texas.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Texas A&I or Texas A&M it wasn't A&M yet.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh, okay, that's right.
Corpus Christi, I think, justyeah, I don't remember what it
was, but he finished there andthen he became a police officer,
served there.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, it's now Corpus Christi A&M, so A&M bought it
out, but before that it was justa four-year school there,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So serving you just got a family of servants.
That's amazing.
Yeah, you know, with COVID, youknow, I know that had to have a
big impact on y'all's businessbecause y'all are touch business
more face-to-face.
What were some of the struggleswith that?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
We had a lot there at first.
They first considered us asessential, and so we were still
able to serve certain clientelepatients but most people were
just fearful and scared of goinganywhere in the beginning, as
you probably remember right so,you know, it really affected the
business and what we were ableto do, and then we just found
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different ways that we could tryand help um, and then we just
created some protocols toprotect them, protect us, you
know, um as far as you know, webusiness was affected.
obviously it took us a goodwhile to kind of get through all
of the aftermath of COVID.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I could imagine .
I'm glad I didn't open thisbusiness before COVID.
I would have been in sometrouble, you know, because there
ain't much you can do.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, the West End Clinic down at 288,.
We were actually in the middleof moving locations when COVID
hit and, oh my gosh, that was anightmare.
I could imagine Jesus.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You know when people think of chiropractic.
I couldn't even say excuse me,what are some of the myths that
people think when it comes tothat?
Do you all have any?
That people think when it comesto that Do you all have any?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, you know some people, you know they've come to
me through the years and youknow from well, hey, I don't
want my neck to get broke.
Or you know what's thatcracking?
You're cracking bones.
No, no, what's actually we'redoing is just putting normal
motion into a joint.
I always explain.
I used to have to explain it toattorneys the most because they
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didn't quite understand.
But I said imagine your elbowjoint.
That joint is supposed to havefull range of motion.
But what happens if you injurethat area?
Our body wants to protect, soit closes down, locks down.
So muscles are going to spazout, they're going to get tight,
the joint's not going to move.
So now maybe I've only got halfthe range of motion that I've
got or need, and so the musclesshorten up and then the joint
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starts deteriorating, breakingdown because it needs motion.
I always used to tell patientshey, motion, motion.
You know, if that joint doesn'thave motion then it's going to
deteriorate faster.
And so, explaining that to them, we're just putting full normal
range of motion back in thatjoint.
And by stressing that joint,naturally we can also work on
strengthening the smallermuscles that support that joint
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to take pressure off the disc sothe disc doesn't blow um, and
then you know we've had the oldthing.
Well, um, you know you get,just so you can cause a stroke
or what have you.
but I mean there's been so muchresearch and the likelihood of
that is.
I don't remember what thestatistics are, but it's one in
a million or something like that.
But typically what we see andwhat the research shows is
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typically people are alreadygoing through, because when you
start to have a stroke typestroke, it's usually the
symptoms are going to be neckpain, and so that's why it's
really important the headaches,neck pain especially women,
they're very prone for thosetype of symptoms and they'll
come in and for stroke, and soit's.
The chiropractors have to makesure they're doing a proper
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neurological to make sure thatit is safe or they don't have a
patient in their office rightnow that's already pre-stroke,
and get them referred out.
So it's important to make surethat the doctors are doing the
right treatment evaluationprotocols before they lay hands
on the patient.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So how has your experience been working with the
VA?
I know you get a lot ofveterans in there.
I know it's got to feel sometype of way to make that person
who sacrificed so much to beable to live a normal life again
without medication.
How has all that been for youguys?
It's got to be a wonderfulfeeling.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It is actually a wonderful feeling because you
see them come in and they'rehurting and they just don't know
what to do and after being withthem and helping them along the
way, you can start to see themget better.
I guess my frustration with itis that the VA limits also puts
limits on how much we can do,and everybody's different, but
they put the same parametersaround everybody.
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So you know, you know you're alittle bit younger than some of
the ones we get in there, butyou know you probably didn't
have as much wear and tear onyour back as some of the ones
that have gone.
They've had the same damage.
They've done the same thingwith you in the military,
probably had the same type ofinjuries as you, but then those
injuries were never taken careof, so they've spent longer on
those injuries, so it's gotten alot worse.
But to say that they get somany visits and you get the same
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amount, that doesn't make nosense.
And so that's the frustratingpart about it, because we could
do so much more if we weren'tlimited on getting some of these
people back to having theirwhole life, but the ones that
get to us sooner and that's whypart of being on here is I want
people to know that they havethis option and then they go to
the VA.
It is a process to go to the VA,as we all know.
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You first have to get in to seesomebody look at your back and
do all that at the VA.
Once they do that and theyevaluate you and let you know
that, hey, you can do physicaltherapy, you can do chiropractic
those are some of the options Iwas given for my back when I
went back in there oracupuncture, those are the three
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things.
And so once they do that, thenthey can choose chiropractic,
choose whichever one they want.
Well then they'll va, will youknow?
We'll try to get you scheduledin the va.
So if you live that 30 milesaway, you know, or you live that
, um, or they can't get you inwithin a month.
Now that sets you up to go, youknow, into the private sector.
So, um, and then that's kind ofwhat happens is they, they,
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they can't get a man.
Because even when they told methey were going to get me in, it
was almost like eight monthslater before I was going to see
anybody.
I said no, go to the sector.
I was able to see anotherdoctor sooner.
I thought this is the sameprocess that people are coming
to us for.
Let them know it is a process,but once they get that, just
tell them they want communitycare.
They go on there.
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They'll set them up with alocal doctor that's in the area.
Both of our offices in Pearlandare set up to receive them, and
so you have to.
We've already done everythingto be in network, so they'll get
that offer.
Then they just come in.
We do a full evaluation.
Like Dr Parsons was saying.
We want to make sure that thepatient's safe and that this is
something that we believe we cando as well.
So he set up a great process toevaluate them, to put a good
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plan of care together and getthem to their goals and what
they want to do in life.
It's not just about getting ridof the pain.
For us it's getting them backto that life.
You lose your life.
We've had so many people tell us.
They say well it took so much toget you there and they're all
like, yeah, but I was layingaround on a couch, I was doing
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nothing, my life was going awayand now I can get up and do the
things I want to do.
So it's a process, you know,but once you get it through
there and you get them, thelittle bit of treatment we do
get, we can make some progresswith that.
You know I want to work withthe VA and try to open that up
and allow more visits, morethings.
So I've been working on theback end with the VA trying to
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do that myself.
How can we let you know thatsome of these would get better
progress, some of these wouldget better function if we're
able to open it up, becausethey're not all the same.
Right, but you know, it's aprocess for all that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It definitely is, and you know there's so many
veterans.
All that way, it definitely is,and and you know there's so
many veterans, you know um it'sI.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
You know, I don't I, I better not but you know I'm
right there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So when, when it came to to being doc, when it came
to to getting your degree anddoing things of that, what did
you pick?
Why?
Why were you led tochiropractic?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's a really good question.
Being an athlete and I wasalways interested in how the
body worked, the biomechanics ofit, and so it just was.
And then, plus, I had a Dr PatThomas from Corpus Christi.
You know he was leading me thatway.
You know he took care of me.
I had really bad scoliosis whenI was young and he helped keep
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me playing sports through highschool and college until I tore
my shoulder up and then I wenton to chiropractic school
because of his mentoring to meand it just seemed to fit with.
I really wanted to work with thebody naturally, just seemed to
fit with.
I really wanted to work withthe body, naturally.
Um, and you know, our, our dadand our parents, you know,
brought us up to try and takethe natural approach as much as
humanly possible.
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And you know that wasn't veryuh uh or that especially uh,
through the, through the yearsand the decades of change, and
you know that's evolved wherepeople are looking for more
natural solutions versus, youknow, just patching it with
medication or ending up, youknow, on the surgical table.
But, um, you know.
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So I really want to work withthe body, I want to find out
what's the natural approach.
I was intrigued with how thebody worked and, uh, you, know
uh that was awakening, though,my first cadaver class.
Uh, yeah, I think I had doublegloves on that day and I I went
home and I remember that firstday taking a bite of my sandwich
after a long day and I couldstill smell the formaldehyde and
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I vomited.
But second try, I was in there,I could eat it, didn't bother
me at all.
So, you got used to it.
But yeah, to take the wholehuman body apart and truly
understand every piece and howit comes together makes it
really simple.
For when a patient walks in andthey're saying, hey, I've got
pain here, you're going throughyour mind.
You're able to unfoldeverything that's there.
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You know nerves, vascularsystem, muscles, tendons,
ligaments, everything.
So it makes you capable ofserving and being able to help
those joint and muscular issues.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's awesome, man.
I'm glad you know I'mdefinitely going to make an
appointment to come out and seeyou guys.
Actually, I'm going to get onit tomorrow and see when I can
get in there.
What's you know?
It's different.
I see a lot of chiropracticwork on social media now.
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You see everybody's doing thecrack videos and things like
that.
Y'all doing any of that?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm personally not a fan of the crack videos because
I'm not after a crack, becausethat's just gas being released
from the joint, or a crack rightwhat I'm after, because that's
just gas being released from thejoint.
I can create stimulation, nervestimulation or create normal
motion without the crack.
I mean that scares a lot ofpeople.
So we actually provide severaldifferent techniques, because if
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somebody is a history of strokeor cardiovascular issues, then
we don't want to use certaintechniques with those type of
patients and yet we can stillget them better without the
crack if you will.
But I'm not a fan of the crackvideos.
It is a new world out there.
When I started, you know wewere hustling, I had my spine
and I was out doing health talksand teaching and screening and
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it's definitely changed theenvironment.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Especially this day in earth, I mean this day in you
know.
Today you have to have a socialmedia presence and how are?
How are y'all fulfilling that?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
yeah, our doctors, um do actually we do a video
content at least once a week andputting it on our social media
channels.
So we, we kind of picked thatback up and got on it and I used
to do a ton of videos, youtubevideos but I had black hair back
then so those are kind of uh,that's long and gone.
So teaching the younger, uhdocs, and you know they're more,
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they're more preppy of handlingsocial media stuff than we are,
jerry and I have had to learnit.
Jerry tries to stay away from it, but as much as possible, but I
still like doing the videos andhelping um in any way.
And then I do a lot of articlesand stuff for our website as
far as content on differentthings, to kind of help guide
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people that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I didn't.
I've know y'all, y'all probablyreceived a lot of uh community
support.
I'm paralleling.
It's just an amazing city.
I talk nothing but amazingthings besides traffic.
I talk nothing but amazingthings about this place yeah,
well, a lot of times I tellpeople they're like well, how,
what do you feel about this sideof town?
I'll be like I'll be honestwith you.
There's a certain road that Idon't go past because that
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traffic is is insane over thereyeah, you know, you know what I
mean.
I stay over here in old Pearlandit's just, it's different, but
you know that's amazing man.
What are some of the?
Give me some of the give me abest experience that you've seen
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, maybe with the patient outcome.
There you go, best outcomeyou've seen or something that
strikes that you remember.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
This one.
You know, and I don't know ifDr Parsons remembers this one,
but when I first came there, itwas almost.
I think I got there in Augustof 2011, and I believe this was
right before Christmas.
Going into that little part,when I realized I was in the
right place was there was a carthat drove up.
We actually walked out to thecar.
This patient could not get outof his car.
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Three of us picked him up,brought him into the clinic and
Dr Parsons at the time was inthere and the associate doctor
and they treated him.
They literally did everythingthey could that day examined him
, found out what was wrong withhim, did some treatment on him
and to watch him after theytreated him, find out what was
wrong with him, did sometreatment on him and to watch
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him, after they treated him,walk out on his own after that.
I mean it just goes to show,you know the Karen and
everything else, and at thatpoint I knew where I was at, I
knew that this was the rightapproach for me.
I knew this was but I mean justlittle things like that.
Or, or, you know, helping thekids.
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I mean, um, you know, peopledon't realize the first
traumatic injury that you haveis birth and people wonder why
kids, you know, babies, certainbabies, you know, have colic or
certain dayit.
I mean when you have a nerveand you have pressure on a nerve
that's not functioning properlycauses problems, so they have
subluxations right, release thesubluxations and the nerves can
start to function better.
It's just amazing the stuffthat I've learned over the last
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12 years being there just fromthe doctors.
It's just amazing that theyhappen and in my only experience
was it.
You know, I was lucky.
Like he said, our fatherbrought us up that way but a
chiropractor, dr thomas, got mydad to be able to continue to be
a police officer after one ofhis wrecks and that's what
really brought it home to us.
And you know, one time Iremember the time I was five
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years old and I hurt my neckjust by bending over in the
bathtub and they called it acrick in the neck at the time.
It's the only thing I rememberand I hurt so bad.
But you know, for him to callup his doctor, dr Thomas, it was
late and he goes meet me at theoffice, went in there and you
know I was scared because he'sgrabbing my neck, not sure what
to do, but all of a sudden hedid what he did and I was like
that's it and he goes, yep, andI got up and the pain was gone.
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Everything was great because Iwas in his office three days a
week during football to keep meup on the football field and
keep me playing baseball andkept me.
You know the things going.
So you know it was a differenceof life and for me to be able
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to get back now and seedifferent things like that, it's
an amazing experience.
You know, to see it from otheravenues, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
You know, doc, you said something and it keeps
playing in my head.
Are you talking to me or Jerry?
Cause, jerry sounds like a doctoo.
Yeah, I think I've rubbed offon him.
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Hey, that is, that's it.
But something you said kind ofkeeps popping in my head.
It's just it's not about thecrack, it's not about the pop,
no, so so in, I guess we don'tlike me as an outsider, don't
know anything about chiropracticwork, and and we assume that
that's what it is yeah, I know,I know it's, it's um, it's a
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fallacy of understanding.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And again, it's just like anything and when, you know
, is communication andunderstanding what it is that
we're trying to accomplish, andI think a lot of doctors do a
really poor job of explainingwhat you're getting and what
you're not getting, and that wassomething I always tried to
make sure that the patientsunderstood.
Are you looking for symptomrelief or are you looking to try
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and find out what theunderlying cause is and see what
we can do about that?
Because that's a differentamount of time, that's a
different commitment, that'sdifferent financial situation.
You know so.
You know our motto now.
You know, um, that that jerryand I have for the clinics is
you know, we want to get youback to your life as soon as
possible.
We want what you want.
So if it's taking you out ofplaying with your grandkids or
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taking you out of doinggardening or riding your bike or
whatever, it is okay.
We want to resolve that problem, get you back as quickly as
possible, whatever that is.
But we want to also try andteach you to understand how your
body works.
But a lot of times when peoplecome in in the beginning, a lot
of chiropractors willover-inundate the education and
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when people are in pain theydon't hear anything.
They don't even remember.
Even if they're not in thatsevere pain, they're not going
to remember half the things youtold them.
So the best thing to do is tounderstand what's wrong and
determine whether you can helpthem or not, and understand what
their immediate results orgoals are, so that you can make
sure you can meet thoseexpectations and make sure that
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you're the right fit or thatit's.
It's it is a chiropractic issue, you know um.
So to understand what we'redoing, along with understanding
how the body works, it'sstimulating, like we use also
what's called an arthro stem andwe can just stimulate, and it's
actual vibration of stimulatingthose facet joints.
And it's stimulating themechanoreceptors, which are
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little.
I don't want to get tootechnical here, but you know
mechanoreceptors is how I knowwhere my hand is or finger is
pointing, without seeing it.
So those are communicating backand forth to our brain, all our
nervous system.
If you took everything away andyou looked at, you would see a
perfect image of a body if justthe nerves were there.
That's, how many nerves arethere?
I mean, try and poke yourselfwith a knife and see if you
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can't feel it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Right.
Unless you got nerve damageRight.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But understanding that and everything in life is
energy, vibration and frequency.
So if we understand that and wetreat the body and work because
we use the vibration plates inour clinic as well to help
stimulate, you know a lot ofgood things in the body from
growth fractures and decreasedstress.
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You know cortisol, stuff likethat.
But to understand what theadjustments are, sometimes some
patients want to know it andsome patients don't want to
understand it.
Did I answer your question?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yes, Okay, yes.
So I have a question.
So I know you'll probably get alot of veterans that have neck
issues due to wearing Kevlar,the Kevlar helmet all the time,
pressing against the I don'tknow how the body works, but I'm
assuming pressing the spine.
You know what is somethingalong those lines that y'all do
to relieve that kind of pain?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
So are we dealing with, you know, a long-term
effect to where it's actuallyaffecting the disc, or is it
just affecting?
You know the muscles aren'tsupporting the neck anymore and
so we need to put them throughsome therapy.
But we actually use a form ofdecompression as well.
So we use that a lot of timeswith our disc patients, like if
they got the sciatica orradicular pain down their leg.
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So we're dealing usually with adisc problem in the lower back
and so we'll use thatdecompression.
And what decompression does?
It kind of creates a vacuumeffect.
So we're actually going to justslowly decompress that disc and
what that does is it allows tosuck that fluid back into the
center, because the disc is likelittle tires, little rubber
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tires, layers of them, and thosetreads can get loose and torn
from all the compression wherethe muscles aren't supporting
properly.
So if we're talking about yourneck, the disc fibers will tear
and that fluid will seep out tothe weak point.
The weak point is usually rightwhere the nerve comes out.
It's straight back and to theside, and that's where those
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nerves come out on both sides.
Or it can actually go centraland it can get the spinal cord
affecting both sides as well.
So it just really depends wherethat disc is actually bulged out
.
And so if we do thatdecompression, we'll unload that
disc.
It irritates those outer fibers.
To help the body heal, and thenwe try and work on
strengthening the muscles andworking on their posture with
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their neck to put the head in abetter position, because you
think about, average head weighs10 pounds and we're holding
this 10 pound melon up there allday.
And then you you know militaryfootball players, helmets and
things like that impacts, falls,bumps, bruises.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You know it's, it's going to break down a little bit
sooner than than uh, than it'ssupposed to last do y'all see a
lot of uh, I know, with thisgeneration now in days it's a
lot of looking down.
You know, look down, look downcell phones, things, laptops all
that.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Is that what it's called?
They have an actual name nowfor it, for what?
The kids today with tech neckbecause they're all on their
phones, they're doing all thatthey're going to have so many
more problems because they don't, they don't ever get to develop
the curve in their neck, whichis the curve is important so
that the nerves can function.
And you know, again, learningall this but that's what we have
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to know in this industry isthat the kids today, just by
doing that, you know, we used to, our parents used to get talked
about because they put us infront of the TV, because the TV,
when we were young, was a newinvention.
Right, the remote was me goingup there for my dad right.
But we would sit down and lookup at our our tv to watch it.
But nowadays, you know that'shelping.
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Now everybody looks down,they're on a lap, they're on an
ipad, they're on their laptop.
So you know, I even see mygrandchildren do that today you
know I was like I had to tell mydaughter you know that's not
good for their neck, but youknow it's just seeing.
That is different.
But I wanted to go.
Dr partner was you know yourquestioner?
I wanted to.
I had a thought on that.
Was that, um, about themilitary?
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And the next something like that, something that was really just
amazing to me to understand,was we have some big guys come
in that have worked out.
They're muscular, you can seehow big their muscles.
They probably lift a lot ofweight.
But my dog was doing this exam.
Have worked out, they'remuscular, you can see how big
their muscles are.
They can probably lift a lot ofweight.
But my dog was doing this examon him and what they're looking
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at is can the muscles actuallyrespond the same on both sides?
So part of their exam is tocheck the muscles to see if the
nerves function properly and tosee this big old broiler guy
that can't lock out the doctorthat's just pushing down his arm
because the nerve is beingimpinged and even though he can
lift all the weights up but fromone hand he can lock him out
and hold him up but the otherone just falls away, that's the
nerve being impeded from thathelmet or whatever the traumatic
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injury is and it's just puttingpressure on that nerve so to
relieve that, all of a suddenyou're going to be able to use
that muscle again.
You're not doing that and Ilike to look at it as seeing
x-rays in the office.
It was just astonishing when Istarted working there, but it's
like looking at people's teethand seeing the decay in your
teeth you'd go do somethingabout it.
Most people don't look at theirspine, see the decay happening
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because they're not taking careof it and so just to go in and
and we tell people you're when'sthe last time you went and had
your nervous system checked?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I don't think nobody checks it.
Nobody checks it no matterwhere, right.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
But that's why you I mean you get your teeth checked
twice a year, but yet when's thelast time you had your nervous
system checked?
That's something we're doing ischecking to see how function it
is.
Rather, somebody decides theywant to do something.
At least they know what's goingon and they know where they're
headed, you know, and it's decay, basically of the spine, and
this is why you look around.
We see more and more hospitalsbeing out there, but really the
(42:07):
homes that have to take care ofpeople are growing and growing
because we didn't do the thingswe should have done when we were
younger and take care of ourhealth.
I'll steal this from Dr Parsonsbecause it really resonated
with me a long time ago.
You get a health fund whenyou're born and it's full, just
like your bank account, andeverything we do in life takes
away from the health fund.
So what are you doing to putback in that health fund so that
(42:28):
when you're ready to retire,you're ready to do the things
you love to do, you have yourhealth?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
We don't Dang.
That makes sense.
Yeah, you dumbed it down for meright there.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
It's kind of funny, you know Jerry talks about it.
You know it's nice sitting backhere going.
Man, I actually I did.
I guess I did a pretty good jobteaching I'm a good teacher
after all but you know it was.
I saw a video the other day andtalking about this, but Jerry
brought up the health account.
(43:01):
It was, uh, I think it was avideo with uh, katherine,
katherine hegel and the actress,27 dresses and and things and
she said her purpose was aboutdogs and taking care of dogs.
And she was.
I was listening to this she'stalking about it's the food that
we feed our dogs, why they havejoint problems, hair problems,
scalp problems and all thesethey're.
They're aging before theirtheir time and they're not as
(43:23):
active.
And you start giving them good,healthy food, they start being
active and having health and I'mlike this is what we're
teaching.
We should be teaching thepublic.
It's the foods that we'reeating has so much processed
stuff in it and chemicals.
That's building up anddetoxifying our body.
This is why we have the jointproblem.
(43:45):
Man, we do this clear and repairon our patients.
It's a six-week thing and, man,they can't believe how well
they feel.
It's like you have all thesetoxins that you've done for 50
years, 40 years, 30 years, eventhat build up and it doesn't
allow your body to process.
We get people to clean up theirdiet.
(44:06):
Along with what we do.
We teach them our three mainthings is lengthen and
strengthen muscles, get good,normal joint motion in the joint
, make sure the joint stayshealthy, make sure the nerves
are feeding your body correctlyand then teach them about how
they can change their lifestyle,their diet and put good things
in.
I mean, you think about it thebest vitamin D to help hair and
(44:29):
nails and your immune system isfrom the sun.
So if we can put good, healthythings in the body, we're going
to get good healthy things backout of it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, you know I'm guilty of it.
We are the fast way.
I'm tired.
I got home I'm just gonna throwsomething in the microwave or
stop at the local fast food youknow, it's just, it's a lot
easier yeah, I know it is.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Hey, you know health is not easy, you're right.
You know it's like everybodyasks how do you keep you know,
exercising, going to the gym?
I'm like, well, I don't like itor love it, but I know what the
consequences are.
If I don't, I'm not going toget to.
I don't want to end up in achair, I don't want to end up
somebody taking care of me, Idon't want my wife to have to
push me around in a wheelchair.
(45:14):
And so, if I can lead byexample because I always
remember people saying, you know, I went to my doctor and he
told me I need to quit smokingand I smell smoke on his hands I
didn't want to be that guy, Iwanted to lead by example.
And so you know, I don't makeit all the time.
(45:34):
I love Mexican food, I loveflour tortillas and throwing
some cheese on there and somebutter and everything else, but
you know, again, it's moderation.
And so, like some patients saylook okay, if you eat fast food
seven days a week, let's try six, let's try five.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, you know, that makes sense, man, I see that.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Let's win, let's just have a win man.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
That's what's up.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
What are, um man?
So y'all are?
Y'all have two locations herein Paralympic.
Yes, sir, and what are waysthat people can find you if they
wanted to reach out to you?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
So we actually have one website for both locations.
It's called premierchirotxcomis the website, and then we have
two different, different phonenumbers.
281-485-2955 is is uh, the 2018east down by the original
gringos and dixie and then jerry, what's the?
(46:31):
Do you got that?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
11 to uh, the other um address is 11470 um and
that's Broadway Street, suite110.
Suite 110.
It's actually the easy way Ialways like to tell people.
It's down there by.
We're in between one badrestaurant, one good, healthy
restaurant.
We're right in the middle ofboth of them, but we're in the
(46:54):
town center.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Right on the corner there, right on the corner right
there, he's talking about Cavaand donut place.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh yeah, crispy cream yeah, I'm a, I'm a.
I'm a shipley's man myself, butI know it's, I know it's me.
Yeah, so um a piece of adviceyou would offer the listener,
you both don't my.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
My best advice I tell people is is understand what
the difference is between aninjury and overworked um, that's
probably the best piece ofadvice.
So a lot of people don'tunderstand.
So if, if I overdo something,like a weekend warrior or
something like that, or yardwork, that is usually going to
clear up in a couple days, days,right, that's going to be
soreness and stuff, but if it'ssticking with you a week, two
(47:42):
weeks, you got an injury.
Get to somebody that can helpyou.
And chiropractic, that's ourspecialty.
You know musculoskeletal,neurological conditions.
You know when dealing with thespine or the joints, don't wait,
because it just your body'sgoing to adapt to that and it's
going to do different things.
Like, we work with a lot ofshoulders and knees and it's
(48:04):
usually fixing the biomechanicsof the joint so that the brain
is communicating to the muscles,because you've got muscles on
one side of the joint andmuscles on the other side and
they've got to work together.
One's got to relax and one'sgot to contract, right.
But when they're not workingright, you no longer have a
sliding door for that knee,right, but when they're not
working right, you no longerhave a sliding door for that
knee.
You actually got a sliding doorout of the track and that knee
is going to wear out faster.
(48:25):
So that's why we tell peoplewhen you injure something, let's
get that joint fixed correctly,the biomechanics and that joint
will last longer.
It's when they come to us orthey wait too long and we tell
them you know, unfortunatelyyou're going to need back
surgery.
It's too gone.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, jerry, what you got.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
My easiest one is that people always think
problems will go away.
Have you ever known a problemto go away?
No, problems do not.
So when, like he says, when youfirst get that if you wait long
enough the pain will go away,it doesn't mean the problem's
gone, it's just your body hasadapted to it and has dealt with
it.
And then, when the problem getsa little bit worse, you'll feel
(49:06):
it again because a differentnerve sensation has picked up.
Now it's a worse of a problem.
So people think that they bentover and picked up a pen.
No, you gotta go all the wayback 10 years ago when you're in
that accident, and you ignoredit right, okay that's why you're
invested, so don't ignorethings.
Here's the thing if your enginelight in your car went off and
you weren't sure why, you'd goget it checked out, right yeah,
(49:29):
or would you?
Speaker 3 (49:29):
oh yeah, I don't know , you use the duct tape.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I put a picture over the light.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
So that's exactly what people do to their body.
But you know what, ron, it'sokay for your car, why?
Because if you look out here,you can always go get another
one.
Right, right, right.
When are you going to?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
get another.
You, oh yeah, I mean not, Iguess that makes sense 100%.
Yeah, wow, you know, andthere's a you know, so I still
keep going back.
So there's a big differencebetween y'all have in and outs
chiropractic and then an actualchiropractic facility.
(50:07):
There's a big differencebetween those, huh.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
There is, and that's where it's important for the
patients to know what they'rereally looking for, because
sometimes they don't understandthat.
So a lot of times when I havefamily or friends that are out
of state and they'll call me andask me hey, I'm having
so-and-so.
Okay, so you know this is whatyou need to look for, because
(50:32):
there is a difference and a lotof people don't understand that.
You know there's chiropracticout there to where they won't do
, you know, an examination, orthey won't do x-rays and they're
only evaluating from, you know,maybe an overuse type of injury
or just trying to maintain, youknow, joint motion, and so
there's some chiropractics thatI kind of think of them like,
(50:53):
kind of like a massage envy.
You know they're justday-to-day things, but when it's
an actual bad injury theyusually usually those type of
chiropractic offices refer outto other offices, you know.
So there there is a differenceand a lot of chiropractors
practice all difference, becauseyou got some chiropractors just
do nutrition.
They're just that's what theywant to tackle.
(51:13):
and then you got some that donutrition and some that just do
straight chiropractic.
Just adjust no x-rays, notherapy, no, nothing.
They're just going to adjust.
You know what you're getting,know what you're not getting.
I just never like to guess.
That was kind of our motto.
Um, we test, we don't guessthat's a good one.
Uh, you know, that's definitelysomething when it comes down to
(51:35):
functional medicine andevaluating somebody from a blood
and nutritional level, uh, ofwhat's really going on under the
hood.
It's opening the hood up andlooking at what's really going
on.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
You know, something you said today is going to stick
with me.
It's not about the pop, and alot of times that's what us
normal people that aren knowfamiliar with chiropractic go
for and like to hear and thinkthat that okay, that made me
feel better.
Or, you know, I heard the pop,so it's a good thing, but uh,
(52:12):
god that that it makes me thinkdifferent now.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
So yeah, that got there.
That's actually a gas and and Ihad to, as I learned it from
just practicing through theyears when I would have patients
.
I mean it's crazy how long I'vebeen around, but I remember
treating mom and pregnant with ababy and then I actually
married him off a couple yearsago.
That's how long I've beenaround, so being able to see
(52:37):
people and as their spines agedwith me and you would see the
spines as they age, they don'tbuild up.
You don't get a lot of that gasthat builds up in that joint and
you don't get that pop.
So we're not after that pop,definitely, and you're no
different than a lot of otherpatients out there and they feel
(52:57):
like they're getting cheated.
Or I didn't get a goodtreatment because there wasn't a
pop.
But again, the key is that theprovider that's treating you
makes sure that the joint hasnormal motion, because we can
give a bad adjustment where, hey, you just didn't move, there's
muscles too spasmodic, too tight, hey, we'll do some stretching,
let's get you back and I'll seeyou again.
We'll get a better treatment onit.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Sometimes that takes that too wow or I think the way
to look at it is if you takeyour knuckle and you pull your
joint right there at yourknuckle, you'll see that it
moves right, right.
Sometimes you'll hear that pop,okay, but it doesn't.
But sometimes I can still movethat joint and there's no air
coming out there, no pop.
So it's still moving rightright and so we want to get
(53:40):
normal function movement backinto the joint.
So that's kind of the simpleterm of why you don't get the
pump.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
See I like that man, you guys you really like.
You're awesome, jerry y'allsound like y'all love what y'all
do absolutely.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
I just want people to be well educated on what?
Because I wasn't, you know,even though I went to.
You know I loved mychiropractor as going through
high school and kids, but Ididn't learn what I've learned
since being here and understandit so myself after leaving high
school.
Do you think I saw achiropractor when I was in the
military or after the military?
Speaker 3 (54:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
I just went.
I heard I wanted to go see onebecause I know they could do it.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
But I really never got educated on why I should
have been seeing one more on aregular basis to stay better
healthy until I came here andstarted working with my brother
and learned all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
That's amazing.
Well, y'all definitely kickedme in the butt.
I'm definitely going to bevisiting you guys really soon
and you know we wanted to shareinformation and I honestly think
that that's what was done todayduring this time, and I want to
tell you both thank you foryour service, honestly, thank
you for what you do and thankyou for helping our brothers and
(54:48):
sisters get back right.
And you know that's something Isaid that and I got chills
because that's how sincere I amwith it.
You know, getting them off themedication is an amazing thing
in itself and I say that as arecovering addict that it is
something that needs to be done.
(55:08):
You know, because we are fedmedications and you know we
think it's the fix, but a lot oftimes you know it's not and
it's just doing more damage.
Think it's the fix, but a lotof times you know it's not and
it's just doing more damage andyou get to a point where you
feel like you can't live withoutit and you find it elsewhere.
You know it gets bad.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah, it snowballs.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Right, it definitely does.
So I want to thank you guys forbeing here and for sharing this
information.
I appreciate it and um, wouldyou guys have any last comments
you'd like to say?
Speaker 3 (55:40):
No, I just appreciate you having us on and you know
my purpose at this point in mylife is just to serve and add
value where I can to people'slives.
Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
Raul, I just want to thank you for giving us this
opportunity to share with you.
But, you know, learning alittle bit about you and what
you do in the community isawesome the fact that you know a
lot of what you're doing is tohelp the military and help the
veterans that they don't know,and that takes a lot.
I mean you finding that out anddoing that, you're helping out
veterans out there too, and Ijust appreciate that there's
(56:13):
somebody out there doing that,because it does mean a lot, I
appreciate it, brother, thankyou, thank you and you guys
always.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Thank you for tuning in.
Be sure to check out.
Check out Premier Chiropracticon what?
Speaker 2 (56:29):
was the website PremierChiroTXcom.
There you go and, as always, besure to check on your friends
and family.
If you're in a crisis, be sureto call 988 or you could even
text 988.
If you're a military veteran,press 1.
As always, you guys.
Thank you and Charlie Mike, Yoyo yo.
What's going on?
Everybody, it is me, SouljaHardwell, Redcon1 Music Group
(56:50):
and thank you for listening toCharlie Mike, the podcast, Yay.
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