416 TPE 2025 Review Continued with Parodi King and Wild Turkey 101

Darrell continues discussing experiences at TPE 2025. More clips from cigar manufacturers. 

Episode Transcript

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Oh, welcome to the newest episode.

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In this episode of Little Scargillator More, here we are!
We have the Parody King.
Don't worry, we'll explain it.
And with it, Wild Turkey 101.
Woo boy!
You're hanging out with Bill and Darryl with cigars, liquor, and more.

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Alright, well, the Parody King is a 4.5 by 34.
It's a machine-made cigar from Scranton, Pennsylvania,
with fire-cured Kentucky tobacco.
MSRP is $1.
One whole dollar!
Yeah, but you can't buy them on their own.

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Now, they're packs of five for five bucks.
Hacks of five, you gotta put out a fiber.
Alright, Wild Turkey 101.
Obviously, bottle that 101 proof, and it's MSRP is $21.
So you can see I went with the super budget show.
You did!
I also like that you have a $1 stick with a $21.

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Let's hear, you know, Indian 101.
And Kentucky 101, you got a lot of ones there.
Okay, the Parody King may be 34 at the largest.
Right, it tapers.
So it is more small.
It tapers immediately.
Yes, yes.

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Right.
And if you look at it in the right way, you remember the Star Trek 4, I think it was,
where they're coming home, but you know, the whale thing happened, you know, the extra
trache.
Yeah, yeah, that was not a great one.
No, but if you look at this in the right way, it looks like that whale extraterrestrial

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ship.
Ow, okay.
It just, I don't know.
That's what it looks like.
Something about it looks like that to me.
And so you tell the story about the Parody and then I have something to add.
This actually goes to TPE.

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The Parody is the first cigar I ever had back in the 90s back in college and we're
walking by the booth and I see them and I go, Oh my God.
And I tell Dave, who's with me?
This was the first cigar ever smoked.
I haven't had one like 20 years, but so I don't even remember what they taste like,
but this was this holds a special place in my heart and he goes here and he hands me a

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box of them.
And I'm like, dude, we're having these.
So we have them in the lounge and I'm like, Oh my God, I don't remember them being this
good.
They're really good.
So I'll tell you what it tastes like that you might have had.
It tastes like Drew Estates Kentucky fire cure.

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It's the same thing.
It does.
It tastes awful like it.
Now here's one of the major differences.
So not a laser machine made.
So it's not long filler.
It's not big.
It's also a European style cigar.
So it's dry.
This is not a Western style cigar in a humidor.

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This is throw them anywhere.
Don't leave them on the dash of a hot car, but you know, like you don't have to humidify
them.
And I was like, Oh my God, I remember like in this so much.
And also by the way, mentally, I realized, Oh, this is this is Drew's Kentucky fire
stick.
It is period.

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It's the same cigar.
Drew's not going to like hearing that, but you know, we love you, Drew.
We love you.
We really do.
Let's let it settle in and try some of this one on one.
Okay, which we did you want to add?
Oh, I did one.
And so, so Darryl, Darryl came up.

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This was prior to the show.
Darryl came up and he he hands me the package of five.
And I read it and I'm like, you got to be kidding.
He's like, no, he tells me that story, a story that he just told.
And he's like, we're having something night.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah, he hands me one.

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He says, and then you're going to be so sore because I have five others.
And then I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you smoke it and you're like, it's excellent pretty damn good.
Right.
I was expecting.
Yeah, harsh, yeah, terrible, but it's not.

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It was really, really surprising.
And I had not I thought I had had one, but I had not think what I had was that backwards
or whatever the hell it was.
Yeah, yeah, you got it back.
But I feel like Clint Eastwood when I'm smoking one of these look just like the ones he looked
like in the dead.

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Yes.
All of them.
All of his movies.
Yeah, it looks like this cigar.
Yeah, the good, the bad and the ugly that don't squirre.
Probably is this cigar.
Probably is this cigar.
And but that's what it looks like.
And so it's like, hey, if it's good enough for Clint Eastwood.
And that's exactly it does.
If you've seen Eastwood's old movies, then you've seen a parody.

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I swear it's this cigar.
It's absolutely, absolutely.
But they're totally a departure, right?
They're European style.
It's tiny.
It's dried.
It's fire cured.
You know, it's totally different cigar, but it's worthy.
It's a really worthy cigar.
That's worthy cigar.

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It does not meet the definition of a premium cigar by a long shot, right?
Because it is machine made short filler, not long filler, right?
All this stuff, right.
But still, I wouldn't chunk it by the wayside.
Right.
This could be a really great lawnmower cigar.

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Lawnmower cigar, truck cigar, right?
I mean, whatever, right?
Right.
Because not only that, but you can carry with you without even finding it.
You don't have to have a case.
It could just be somewhere.
It's not going to explode on you because it dried out.
No, it's impossible for the game or dry.
You're moistening it.
You really, you really, really are.

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Really, really are.
And OK, so it's already cut.
It's already cut on the end.
Well, there's no cap.
And there's no cap at all.
So you don't you don't even have to use your your handy dandy little little
cut.
You have a way of light, then.
And you could like this thing easily with the regular.
It's dry.
Regular old stick mash.

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Funny.
Didn't expect.
And awesome at the same time.
And when you said it tastes like Drew's Kentucky firecured,
I'm like, there's no way.
There is just no way.
And then I spoke it and I'm like, my god, it does.
How did they do that?

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Kentucky firecured.
I mean, flavors the flavor.
So then I asked Daryl, I said, do you think this is made with the scraps
of Drew's Kentucky firecured?
I could see it.
I mean, why not?
Yeah, in which case he wouldn't mind if we said it tastes like it.
Yeah.
I don't think he would make that public though.

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He's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
It's just us making fun, man.
But there's probably not a lot of manufacturers of Kentucky
tobacco this firecured.
So they probably using the same supplier.
Yeah, I think it's a limited.
Yeah.
That's a guess.
I don't know.
I don't know.

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It's a guess.
Yeah, we don't know.
We haven't asked.
We're probably not going to.
The mystery man.
Keep the mystery.
All right.
So the Kentucky 101 or the wild turkey, sorry.
I got stuck on Kentucky firecured.
Sure.
This is from Kentucky too.
Yeah, yeah.
All there.

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But the wild turkey 101, what do you think?
All right.
Now, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
So we had to look it up.
Yes.
Because it has been a while, but we have had the wild turkey
101 on the show before.

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Back in March 10 of 2021.
It's been a bit.
Yeah.
Episode 133, we're over 400.
Yeah.
So we're in 2025.
It's been a while.
It's been a while.
It has been a long while.
And we were still talking masks back then.
Right.
Mask and public crap.
You know?
So now the labeling has changed since then.

(09:12):
It has.
And I like to bottle a whole lot better.
I like the embossed turkey.
Turkey on there.
So yeah, I like the way this bottle looks better than the old bottle
bottle for 21.
Well, the upscale.
It's fine.
Yeah, upscale that.
Well, you kind of have to in order to keep up with there.
Because there's a plethora of choices out there.

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So you need to do something that's going to stand out,
even with the $21 bottle.
It's still $21 though.
That's what's nice.
Well, OK, it was less.
But what wasn't last few years ago?
Everything's more.
Everything's going.
And more than normal more, right?
Everything's a little more.
Right.
But our inflation of 2% kind of took a turn.

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Yeah, to 20%.
Yeah.
Two years.
We did two consecutive back to back seven and a half.
Right.
So we got 15% in two years.
So yeah, it's a little bit more.
No, seven and a half a quarter.
Oh, it was a quarter?
For those two years.
Just over a year.
And then it slacked off to a good 5% quarter.

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Now, we jumped up 20 something percent total
between prior and after.
This is the one.
Well, we don't report it that way, right?
We report what gets reported out is by quarter by month.
So it doesn't seem that bad.
But when you go back and look at it and you see the spike
and that it's really still there.

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Because and you know it's still there because we haven't had
any negative inflation.
No, no, the deflation will be far worse.
We do not want deflation.
Well, I'd like our prices to go down.
No, you don't.
You know, no, deflation is so much worse.

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OK, so on the nose.
Yeah, you kind of realize it's waterproof.
You get it.
But even so, it doesn't have that, you know, cleaning alcohol
smell to it.
No, no, it's not super sharp.
It's just very present.
Now, on the palate, you've got all the regular tucky bourbon

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flavors you got up front vanilla and wood.
But then this guy right in the back
has a little bit like the finish.
Has a little bit of a stone fruit.
Like I want to say, I could share it.
You said stone fruit cherry.
I said to me, it's got a hint of apple too,
which you thought was interesting.
I don't taste the apple.

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But I don't like it.
But a very worthy bottle.
Didn't realize we didn't have it on the show.
I have it on my shell.
I just didn't realize I didn't have it on the show.
But we're going to do what we mentioned before we do the Russell's
career.
At least for almost four years.
Yeah.
I think every four years it's OK to duplicate.
Yeah, I'm trying not to duplicate too much.

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But yeah, four years ago.
Seems fine.
$21 for a bottle.
You think this is a mixer.
And it is.
But you can also be set.
You can also set this.
Does it have to be just a mixture?

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Really?
Really?
I agree completely.
Honest and true.
I agree completely.
This was the bottle that was in a ruba at Divi.
We went in, I'm going to say we went in 20, maybe 20 or 21.
And no, no, no, no.

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A ruba?
Yeah.
A ruba was 23.
23?
OK, we went 23.
This was their bottle.
You went twice in 23.
Yeah.
This was their bottle.
And I drank a lot of it that week, like a couple bottles.
And you're OK.
Yeah.
Well, the other thing was I was like, I don't think I want,
well, Turkey for a while, you know, after drinking it for a week,

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a couple of few bottles, and maybe a few.
And I think I was drinking again within a few weeks.
Because it's very, very simple.
It's really not bad.
It's not like bottom of the barrel Appleton or anything.
It's really good.
It is a good liquor.

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Now, do you mind giving a little preview
of what's coming up in a show yet to be determined?
Well, we talked about it a few shows ago
when we had the Russell's Reserve.
And I said, OK, I'm going to go get the Russell's 10.
And we'll put all three of these side by side.
So we're going to do that.
So I kind of brought this on so that we

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could get this back in our palette memory.
And because we've had the Russell's recently,
and the Russell's 10 just not on the show.
And so we're going to do that soon.
Talk about a variety of price points here.
Yeah, there's a few.
So well, but we're going to compare it all.
And I think it's going to be fun.
Yeah, it is.

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It's our show, man.
It's always fun.
Now, I will say this about the cigar.
It's far cured, and it's going to have its own.
It's going to have that flavor.
There's one flavor that you know that is the firecured tobacco.
And it's unique.
It does.
It kind of tastes like a fire pit.

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It's got a smoky flavor to it, which I really, really like,
which is why I brought it on the show.
On top of that, though, the retro hill.
It's a potent retro hill.
You're going to want to go real light on it.
It is parodic king.
Yeah, actually, the first one I smoked
wasn't this size.

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The king is just like in cigarettes.
The kings were longer.
Yep.
So the original parodie was probably about, I don't know.
Which is shorter than this?
Which is what Clint Eastwood was actually smoking.
Probably.
It wasn't smoking kings.
I think he was smoking the original.
Yeah.
They're about the size of your first finger.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
It worked that long.
Well, I've smoked it down to that.
Right.
Yeah, same.
This is probably the point of where it's
by as long as you're in that finger.
So anyway, I call it by its actual name index finger.
I prefer finger or finger or first finger.

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OK.
You do you, man?
I always do me.
I understand myself the best.
All right.
Well, we covered the first two portions of the show.
We still have more clips from TPE.
Yeah.
We should you want to hear one?
Yeah, we should get to that.
But I just think this is awesome.
A $1 stick.

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And $21 liquor together.
And we like them both.
That is just.
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
If you're talking about that, now, the only way you could go more
budget than this is to get a $5 liquor.

(16:29):
Right.
Oh, we should have with the 10.
We know the Filipino $2.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, man, I missed my opportunity.
That's what we should have done.
That would have been the ultra budget show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At that point, the electricity would have been more expensive.

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The listeners are going.
My fault with me streaming this cost more.
All right.
Let's hear a word from our heroes.
Let's do it.
Let us know what you got going on.
What you're excited about.
What's in 2025?
Whatever you want to talk about.
Well, that then we're going to have to walk right over
to the indoor.
So the indoor that we got right here,

(17:13):
this is actually from the Marifil family.
It is a Cameroon rapper.
Ernesto has been trying to make this cigar, develop the cigar,
and get this cigar out.
I'd say easily for the last four or five years.
In the last year.
All right.
Let me take a pause.
I did not realize that he did not introduce himself.
I thought I had, and I thought he had.
This EP Carrillo.

(17:35):
Excellent.
Take a month.
He's done probably 32 blends to come up with this blend.
Wow.
And I'm here to tell you, it is absolutely delicious.
We are so excited about it.
We've got a few samples out there.
We've taken the taste makers and everybody.
We just did a zoom call about 30 top retailers over the nation.
And they all got to smoke it with Ernesto and band it.

(17:58):
They have a good time.
It was they're all blown away.
They're all excited about carrying it.
It's a limited production.
So it's allocated.
So we're only doing about.
I don't want to go over.
Let's say 5,000 boxes this year.
We will be adding a third size.
Hopefully later this year.
We don't know what that is right now,
just because the Cameroon rapper is much small.

(18:19):
And it's fragile.
So you can't do a big ring gauge cigar.
So we're trying to figure out the right size.
But hopefully that's going to be out in the middle of the year.
Right now we're going to be coming to Robusto and Toro.
And then something else that we came out last year,
TP is our essence series.
This is our everyday smoked cigar.
We have the Honduras, which is amazing for the fact
that it's something we don't have in our anything

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in our profile a little bit.
So it's a really, really fun cigar.
And then of course, the Maduro and Sumatra
will will be having a new wave, not sorry,
but not a new wave.
We'll be having a Connecticut coming out,
a Nicaraguan coming out, and then also possibly a Cameroon
as well in that line as well down the road.
Hopefully that's going to happen the next couple of years.

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And so that's really what we're promoting
and having a good time on.
And we're all excited about getting out to the field.
Awesome news.
Thank you very much.
My pleasure.
Appreciate it.
All right.
So this is awesome news.
Yeah.
So Lovey Picro, just awesome stuff.
And everything that he listed just sounded so, so good.

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I am not surprised that they are doing a limited run of something.
I just want to be able to get my hands on it.
Yeah.
Well, the Encore line is going to be right around $12.
Somewhere around there.
Somewhere between $12 and $14 something like that.
Not bad at all.
Yeah.
And you know, not Trey Andrews.

(19:49):
Well known as distributor for the south.
He does Texas.
We've known him over a number of places that he's repped for.
He was there, I spent some time talking to him.
We knew him before he was in the Scarems.
Yeah, really, really, really, really nice.
Love Trey.
Love Trey.
His wife is awesome too.

(20:10):
OK.
So that is fabulous news.
I am very, very excited for them.
Yeah, we had their Sumatra pretty recently on the show.
And so, so, really, really good.
Yeah.
Well, let's hear from another hit.
What else you got?
Yeah, we're here at TP25.
I got Neil with me.

(20:31):
We're at Jake Wyatt Cigar Company.
And we'll find out what they have coming up in 2025.
What are you doing?
Thanks for having us.
Great to be here.
Yes, Jake Wyatt Cigar Company.
We just released our Jake Wyatt Icarus to the show.
In 22-count boxes, it comes in the Corona Gorda Robusto
and Toro.
It's a wonderful blend, very unique blend,
along with our other Gourmet collection as well.

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Can you say?
What's in the blend?
It's a San Andreas Maduro.
OK.
Dominican or Lord Binder has Pennsylvania Criollo
and Piloto in the filler.
And it's got a half a leaf of Tennessee fire
cured in the filler just to give it a note,
and just a little hint of mesquite.
So it's been a great blend.
It's been well received.
It's put a lot of work into that blend.
It took us about a year to come up with it,
as well as our other blends as well.

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Our Gourmet collection, similar with our Corona Gorda sampler,
we just launched for the holidays,
and that's been going well for us as well.
It's great to be back out at TPE once again.
We look forward to obviously all the shows coming up,
but it's now kicked off.
January is here in 2025, it's starting with a bang,
and we look forward to a solid year.
Do you have an additional PCA announcement coming?

(21:34):
PCA will definitely plan on being there.
It'll be obviously moving from Vegas out to New Orleans,
so there's a lot of people have some anticipation about that.
We're excited about it.
We will have some other releases coming out,
not ready to make any announcements yet,
because there's a couple that were on the fence
out of what's going to come to the finish line first,
but should be finishing up here in the next couple months.

(21:56):
And we're really excited to get out there as well.
OK, good news.
Good news for you.
Yeah, so excited.
Thanks for coming.
Thank you very much.
Have a good TV.
25.
Look forward to this.
We just tried you guys out.
Thank you.
Yeah.
All right, so another small producer.
So I really like these folks.
Hmm.
I unfortunately, our local shops don't carry them.

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Yeah, that's true.
But they are truly, truly good sticks.
If you can get a hold of them, you will enjoy them.
You will not be disappointed on any of their lives.
So that's what I got to say about that.
It's a good endorsement.
And I love that they're doing something for TPE
and doing something for PCA.
That is awesome.

(22:43):
It's good to see a manufacturer do that,
especially someone that is not as big as like a placentia
or a dru or, yeah.
But it makes sense.
So we tend to see more of your boutiques at TBE,
because it's a cheaper booth.
Yes, yeah.
And it's less cost of entry.

(23:04):
Right.
So it's a lower cost of entry.
And I think that the buyers who are looking for boutiques
know this and go to TPE.
So it makes sense that we meet more of your boutiques at TPE.
And it's also probably one of the reasons
that I like to go to TPE.

(23:25):
Yes, that's one of my favorites about TPE.
PCA, it's expensive to get a booth at PCA.
Quite.
So that's why you don't see your more boutique cigar
manufacturers there.
But you go to TPE.
And I mean, you can have a whole bunch of them

(23:49):
in a space where you can just, I mean, you can just go hog wild.
Plus, if you're a PCA, there's so many people there.
And you're a boutique in a small booth,
you can get very lost very easily.
So I think that's one of the reasons that people go to TPE.
And your buyers know to look, if they want boutiques,

(24:14):
they go to TPE.
If they don't, they don't.
So I think it's a good match up because of just the way it is.
It makes an automatic match up.
Actually talked to Nova cigars about this very trend,
which I had heard last year.
So this was just what I heard from buyers
and what I heard from other booth people.

(24:37):
And they were like, oh, yeah, no, that makes sense.
Because they were like, what's the deal?
How is it weird?
What's going on?
I said, well, here's what I heard.
So I just gave them what I knew.
But it was kind of cool.
I both appreciate somebody trying to learn about things

(24:58):
and asking.
And so it was really nice.
It was nice to be asked, actually.
Always ask.
I just are showing, in general, you can tell
that we really enjoy having boutique cigars.
And having a venue, a more mass marketing venue,

(25:21):
such as TPE, like I said, a lower cost of entry
so that the boutique cigar manufacturers can get in there.
And they can get their products in front of people.
And otherwise, you may come across a cigar lounge

(25:46):
that you wouldn't otherwise.
And they may be across the country, but they come.
They try your stuff.
They're like, this is great.
I want some.
Yeah.
And it tends to run that way.
Certain cigar shops tend to be boutique cigars shops.
I know of them here.
Absolutely.
And you go to them for that reason.

(26:07):
One of the great things about being in the Metroplex.
So many cigar shops just within an hour.
So a little time, like 20 plus.
It's awesome.
All right.
All right.
Why don't we grab ourselves an old fashion?
Old fashion, wild turkey 101.
Let's take a little break and do that.

(26:50):
Oh, yeah.
I do get an orange flavor out of this very much so.

(27:15):
Yeah.
Just so people like that.
Just just I know, you know, new listeners come in.
So old listeners, you know this new listeners there.
I'll tell them how you make an old fashion.
Because there is no orange peel, no orange zest, no orange anything put into this separate.

(27:39):
Right.
So your fancy bar will add a cherry and orange peel and dress the orange peel around the
rim and all that is.
I'm just making a at home old fashion that has no presentation skills or anything.
I do a half a shot of simple syrup, which we make.
And it's just a couple of sugar and a cup of water.

(28:02):
Some some do cup and a half of sugar couple.
I just do cup cup.
We do cup cup too.
Yeah.
There's quite a few recipes to do cup and a half cup.
And then I have a lemon juice that I get at Costco.
It's the Italian lemon juice.
I don't use the little plastic lemon, you know, squeezy thing.

(28:26):
You mean for the bar?
That's that stuff's horrible.
So I do use I do use a lemon juice that more resembles lemon juice.
And then and then one shot of the liquor.
So I actually make a half a drink.
And a bitters.
Right.
Three dashes of bitters from the bitters bottle.
So not a bitter doser from the bottle.

(28:48):
So it's so it's a half of a real shot, right?
The real old fashioned before ounces.
I make a two ounce drink with three dashes.
So it'd be like a six dash drink.
Otherwise.
Yeah.
And we you take that and then you split it amongst two drinks because we're not an old
fashioned show necessarily were more neat show.

(29:13):
So you know, this is enough of an old fashioned for doing a right to do it a tasting.
We want a quarter of an old fashioned for tasting.
Yeah.
Because we stopped the talk and you heard shows where we didn't do so well.
That's an understatement.
But we do.
I, I, at least I get orange flavor out of this and no orange was added to it.

(29:41):
It's orange with a little tangy background, but it's not super sour.
And it's just a little sour.
And you, you remember the old granddad one, 14 old fashioned very orangy old fashioned
very so is this this one's pretty close.
Awesome.
Yeah.
And one 14 old fashioned was much more orange forward, but this, this edges it.

(30:08):
Then this comes right to the cusp of it.
I agree.
This is, I like this makes a good old fashioned this is a great old fashioned in a bracket
play.
Again, this falls in line with one of my preferences, which is no 80 proof flickers in old fashions.
No, why do you water it?
You water it down a lot.

(30:29):
See, I saw it that was no $80 liquor center.
No, right.
That that too over 50 is verboten.
But we we I prefer, I don't know about you.
I prefer it to be at least 90, but ideally 100.
I think 100.
Yeah, I think it goes on fashion very well.

(30:50):
You and I both like higher proof liquors to begin with.
We both prefer our liquor to at least make a showing in the old fashion.
Right.
If you got an 80 proof liquor and you put all this other stuff in it, that liquor is not
making a showing except to get you drunk.
Right.
But we want, we want the flavor of it.

(31:13):
We want, we want to see what the mix does with the flavor.
And this did that nice.
Exactly.
Very excellent.
Very present, very nice.
I would do this again.
Yeah, especially in a bracket play, make a note on that.
Yeah, I need a pencil for that.
No need.
It's fine.
We'll mix it again and discover it again.

(31:36):
We know where all the bracket play liquors go.
That's true.
We want to make this bracket play.
I'll put it on the corner shelf.
We'll.
I think this should be bracket.
I think it should be too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now the next bracket play that we're going to do is going to be all made with what they
were all made with one on the better.
Yep.

(31:57):
So this one, this was made with the regular bitters.
Yeah.
So the next, the bracket play after the walnut bitters will just be regular.
So maybe another two years.
Well, that's why I want to go back to the regular bitters because it took so long to
find good old fashions with walnut bitters.

(32:18):
The walnut bitters tends to be kind of powerful, especially to lickers that wash out.
Yes, it does.
So it's hard to find a good old fashioned for that.
And you want good old fashions in your bracket play.
Yeah.
Right.
You don't want the wimpy ones in your bracket play.
You want strong ones in the bracket play.
That's what bracket plays for.
So bottom, boom.

(32:39):
Anyway, there we go.
Off my stump on.
I want to hear it from right heroes.
Yeah.
I want to do that.
All right.
Well, we're here with Davarov and Geneva.
Yeah.
Tp 25.
Yeah.
I'm Michael Herclatz.
I own Ferriotego.
We're distributed by Davarov throughout the United States.
At this show, we're showing two new products.

(33:02):
One is a duo of fresh packs in our timeless collection.
It's four toros, one of each blend in six by 50 in a fresh pack.
And then we also have in our Metropolitan selection of fresh pack of four toros, two
natural to Maduro, mellow, smooth, a little sweet.
So the fresh packs have been great.
They actually debuted at the end of last year, but they're making an appearance here.

(33:26):
And then we're launching a trio of petites, four by 34 petite Corona, natural, Maduro,
and our host blend, which is sweet.
And so those are making their debut at this show shipping next month.
So those are our two features.
But of course, then we have our core products, Ferriotego, timeless Metropolitan.
All that's always available.

(33:47):
Been a great show.
I'm taking ass taking names.
Awesome.
Easy.
Anything else you want to add for 2020?
Ferriotego, find us, smoke us, enjoy us.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
That was a phrase right there.
Find us, smoke us.
Enjoy us.
So Ferriotego.

(34:09):
I don't think I even had one until like 2022, 2021, whatever that was.
It was unknown to me.
And then wow, they are good.
Yeah.

(34:30):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like them.
The timeless is pretty timeless.
It's a spot on name.
Yeah.
I was looking at the boxes and I'm like, they look familiar, but I think it almost looks
like they did a redesign or something.
They looked a little different.
I could just be my memory, but they look very pretty.
The boxes were pretty.

(34:51):
I don't think I've had one in years.
We need to find some of these.
We need some of these.
I bet Brandon has them because they're distributed by Davina.
True enough.
True enough.
These are, but these are great.
We need to, we need to pick some of these up.
That's what I love about TPE.
You go there, you're like, oh yeah, oh yeah, because you know, we're doing all this stuff

(35:12):
and we're getting things and we're sitting there talking about it.
And you know, we're so cool.
But it's original.
We're so focused on that.
But they got all these others that you have enjoyed throughout the years.
It's time to go back every now and then and revisit those.
Indeed.
So anyway, that's awesome.
That is awesome.

(35:35):
I'm glad you got a, I'm glad you got a clip from them because they are pretty, pretty cool.
So thank you.
I wish you could have been there.
It was still, it was a fun outing.
And I think you would have enjoyed it as well.
I always enjoy TPE.
What are you talking about?

(35:57):
Now last year I enjoyed it a little bit too much according to you.
Well, certain aspects of it.
And I know I did.
I really did.
Yeah, we, yeah.
Note to self, sit further away from the bar during industry night.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(36:18):
Yeah.
Anyway, let's go on.
All right.
New hero.
I'll try to do my best radio voice.
The station that reaches the beaches, baby, don't touch that dial.
You don't know where it's been.
That's perfect.
All right.
We're here with Cavalier.
TPE 2025.
Absolutely.
Nick Goss here.

(36:39):
I'm the Northeast representative of Cavalier.
Man, this is, this is the way life should be.
How's everything going with you guys?
Oh, it's brilliant.
Love it here.
Amazing.
I love it.
I love it.
So what do you have?
Coming up in 2025 you're excited about or?
They're coming up with a whole bunch of stuff.
We went over, I don't know what I'm allowed to say and what I'm not.

(37:01):
That stuff come in PC.
We definitely have self-common PCA.
Apart from that announcement, what do we got?
Right now what we're focusing on is the tempura.
Okay.
We've got that front and center.
We came up with that several months ago, but it's a really unique size.
We do that in the black two.
We do that in the white series and the visa holoper.

(37:22):
Okay.
So we have that on showcase.
You can expect to see this year.
It seems like every year, Cavalier comes out with a limited with that year's name.
So I wouldn't be surprised to see a limited edition 2025 and what they normally do, then
they take a coil line and they'll do a limited on that.
Again, I know which coil line it's going to be on.

(37:44):
I don't know if I'm allowed, but it's going to be a good one.
I promise you that.
Since these guys built their own factory, I've been saying two years ago, but I'm getting
older.
So probably almost three years ago.
They've definitely controlled their own destiny.
They're the hottest, they're the hottest new factory in Honduras and they've just been
killing it.
Awesome.
I'd say they sell themselves, but I'd be out of a job.

(38:07):
Right.
Awesome.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
All right.
So Cavalier.
Yeah.
I love me some Cavalier, the guy that owns the company.
He is just solid people.
He's, he's, he's awesome.
And I love his beard.
He's got a fabulous beard.

(38:31):
This gentleman, I don't remember meeting him, but he's, we met him last year.
We did.
He always dresses with this really elaborate, overly decorated jean jacket and like a, like
a colorful cowboy hat.
Okay.
You know, you know, yeah, yeah.

(38:52):
And when he says Northeast, he means out of Boston.
Yeah.
So he, you know, you will, you will see him in the TPE photos that they do for 2025.
He, he appears in almost every, everything because of the way he dresses.
He's a standout.
Yeah.
He's a standout.
Yeah.

(39:13):
He's a lot of patches and you know, just stuff all over, all over him.
He, he's pretty, he's pretty fun guy.
We've hung out with him before.
So great, great snippets of audio.
Love it.
Like I said, on the, on the previous snippet, you know, you, you, you're focused on stuff

(39:39):
throughout the year, you know, we're, we focus a lot on the show and what we're going to
have for the show and what, you know, what we're, what we're doing.
And then, you know, you, you go to something like TPE or since I wasn't able to be there
this year, you listen to it and it's like, oh yeah.
Man, I love those sticks.
You got to have more.
And, but we have, we have had a long time since we had Cavalier though.

(40:04):
No, it hasn't.
It hasn't?
No.
At least not for me.
No, on the show.
Oh, on the show.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's been a lot of helpful.
Look it up, but it's probably been a year and a half or more.
Right.
Since we have one on the show.
There's just so many cigars out there.
There's just so many.
So many.
Such a great time to be alive.
Such a great time to be a cigar smoker.

(40:28):
So and here we are smoking a perotie.
Perotie King.
Hey, it's a king.
You know, we skipped the midpoint.
The midpoint.
Oh, you know what?
It's Kentucky fire.
Yeah, there's no midpoint.
It didn't transition.
Go figure.
No, it did not.
There you go.
In the story.
There we go.
Oh, that was a quick summary.

(40:49):
And the liquor hasn't changed either.
Go figure.
So awesome, oh, fashion though.
So we've talked some and listened to some, listened to some interviews on the cigar portion
of TPE.
We talked, I think it was on the last show that we talked about.

(41:13):
You did talk about some of the changes that were happening in other parts of the show.
Was there, when we were there last year, there was a glass show that was just totally freaking
awesome.
No art show.
No, not at all.
No unique show that was in the back corner.

(41:35):
Anything like that.
Nope.
Nope.
No celebrity appearances like Mike Tyson came for his weed line last year.
Nope.
No, what is it?
Kobe was there.
Rodin.
Rodin was there.
He did not.
Apparently Snoop Dogg made an appearance, but I missed that one.
That's the one I would go to.

(41:57):
So there were no celebrity appearances this year.
And that's fine.
It's actually ends up being more disruptive than anything else.
In my opinion, I mean, it was cool to see him and you go, hey, that's that guy.
But I mean, what am I going to do?
Hi, I'm a fan.
Have a good day.
Yeah, I'm a fan just like all the rest of the people that are drooling over you.
Yeah.

(42:18):
Oh, there was a pile of people following them last year.
So were there any really cool displays from the non-sigar people?
Right.
So there was a lot of big displays.
There were some that were they dwarfed some of the big ones like an Altal this or La

(42:43):
Sensia.
There were like blocks.
They were just giant, a giant block.
They would have it.
I don't know, man.
It looked like it looked like a display at a dillards for jewelry.
You know, I have like a giant square of underglass stuff.

(43:06):
Yeah.
They'd have that.
And then they'd have a giant big screen and a giant lounge and they were some big displays,
big display.
They cannot be.
There's a lot of money there.
What about cars?
Because we saw not only the Tesla truck, Cybertruck thing.

(43:27):
There was another wrapped truck.
But we also saw other.
Are there very vehicles there?
There was a Ferrari.
Yeah.
It's just that whole part of TPE is just crazy.
It is.
And it's also fun because it is a lot of fun.
At the core of it, it's technology.

(43:52):
There are advancements happening.
They are isolating, refining, and building more things.
Yeah, fast.
Right.
So last year it was about, you know, THC, A and P and Delta 10 and Delta 11.
They know what they did.
This year, there's even more.

(44:15):
So P is a little bit more understood.
It hits like at 1.3 times what THC does, which is funny that that's still legal.
And then, and then now there's, there's more.
So it was A and P and now there's like G and there's, I mean, I think there's a doubt.

(44:36):
There's more numbers.
I don't remember six, six and six and seven.
I don't remember.
But it just keeps going and the, the cradle.
Cratum comes in basically seven chemicals that are isomers of that chemical.
But then people said, Oh, well, this is the most active one.

(44:57):
And we're going to call that seven and we're going to make, we're just going to do that
one in just the l isomer, the one that, you know, the one that hits.
And you're like, Oh my God, it just, the technology is really cool.
And sounds like if we were going to do a spin off of the show would be that.
Well, especially since we already attend TPE.

(45:22):
But it's just technologically cool.
And here's the thing.
It's not the niche thing that was always the stoners of the days of your.
Everybody's doing it.
Oh, no, this is absolutely mainstream.
Absolutely.
Every, every nana who has a pain, every, every, everybody who's, you know, gotten whatever.

(45:46):
I got this football injury.
You know, my knee is killing me and I take this gummy.
I take this for sleep.
This is, this is mainstream.
And, and they are, they're tailoring each one to a goal.
So you'll have a gummy that contains X, Y and Z of the different CBD's and THC's for

(46:09):
sleep, for energy, for focus, for their just, it's, they are tailoring everything as well
as you know, giving the, your hardcore stoners the best thing they can give them without being
illegal.
Right.
They're like, you can get a rigidy wrecked off this son.
You know, my words not theirs.

(46:30):
They, they've got their own backyard.
But it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Leave their marketing to them.
Yeah.
No, I think the, I think the term, you're an engineer now to market.
The term they use is hits.
This hits and then they describe something.
Right.
This is hard.

(46:52):
This hits different difference, difference of popular phrase.
Remember, well, you remember how simply became a super popular thing?
Oh, yeah.
Because, because it doesn't say anything about being pure organic and it's not patented
or controlled.
So you say simply and it makes you feel like it's, it should feel good.
Yeah.

(47:13):
It's always not full of chemicals.
It's simple.
Well, now they're doing that.
They're different.
This hits different.
That's what they love.
That's, that's kind of way.
I like it for the innovation and the technology and yeah, I mean, it's amazing.
And frankly, it's encouraging because this is a drug that everyone can benefit from.

(47:37):
You can buy a bag of gummies and go to sleep or alleviate knee pain or your back pain and
not end up in the Sacklers palm.
This is a, yeah, this is a, a reference to one of the worst things that ever happened
to prescription meds.

(47:59):
When last year at TPE, you had the technology of, of Vapes just was going overboard.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I think I've heard screens now.
Or do they?
Yeah.
I don't doubt it.
I don't doubt it.

(48:21):
It's right.
Because I mean, you had, you had dual cartridge with displays that showed you how much was
in the cartridge, how much were in the cartridges, how much your, your battery was.
Yeah.
Just, oh, they got 16,000 puff.
You could tailor them to, you know, how much you want to get out of a glove.
Yeah, all of it.

(48:43):
I mean, just, it's everything.
And we like tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny little stuff.
And one of the things I really, I know it's, it's geeky.
I mean, one of the things I really liked was there was this one booth that showed their
manufacturing.
Yes.
And you just see all the products go through the manufacturing line.

(49:06):
That was, I thought that was awesome.
So they had some of that this year.
So there were some manufacturers of manufacturing equipment.
So if you wanted to start making your own gummies and you wanted to do, you could buy
the equipment.
They also had somebody there was making 3D printed cigar cases so that you could make

(49:32):
them for your own custom party or something.
And you know, like, you know, you get cigars and say it's a boy or it's a girl.
Well, now you could make a cigar case that said wherever you wanted on it or is that
like, there was a bunch of stuff like that.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I love that idea.
Wow.
Technology, man.
It's everywhere.
We love the tech.

(49:54):
It's everywhere.
That's freaking awesome.
All right.
We ready to rate these bad boys.
I think so.
I think we are.
All right.
Now, I think that I think the wild turkeys going high.
That's just a bill thought.
I don't know.
You're going to have to wait like everybody else.
I'm not ranking them.

(50:15):
All right.
All right.
So all this is going to be so stupid.
Well, I mean, I did not envision that you would, you know, necessarily rank this high,
but it's a good cigar.
So even if it's last place, it's last place among a really great list.

(50:37):
This is so stupid.
All right.
Where are you placing the wild turkey?
All right.
So I'm going to put the wild turkey just above the benchmark.
So we've got Remus 1845.
We've got Belkonese.
We've got the Russell's Reserve and then then the wild turkey.

(51:01):
Number five.
Nice benchmark.
A Johnny Rebel 100.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I knew it was going to rank high and not for the price.
The price is a bonus.
Yeah.
No, I'm trying to.
I'm taking it out for rank good.
Absolutely.
Including it for daily drutter, but it's for ranking.

(51:25):
All right.
All right.
Am I to presume the parrotie is going to be in last place?
You can presume all you want.
But until I see it, but until you see it, it's not official.
Okay.
Where did you put the Holy crap?
I know.
Oh, I know.
Could you believe that?

(51:47):
I can't.
So that's just that's wild and crazy.
You almost think I was drunk when I put that up there.
But the parrotie king in the number seven position, I can't believe I did this.
With the part is sifuentes and number six.
Yes.
And the EP, Korea, Sumatra and number eight.
Yes, I can't believe I put it above.
Wow.

(52:08):
The EP.
I just, but so you're the upside surprise here.
So I am.
So how?
What happened?
Tell me.
Okay.
I, this does come across a whole bunch like the, the, the Drew Kentucky fire cured.

(52:30):
Right.
And I really enjoy that stick.
Right.
And I really enjoy this, not a premium cigar.
And I didn't even take price into consideration.
I just, no, just the flavor.
Yeah.
And I really, really, really liked the flavor of this.

(52:51):
I had a hard time putting it in front of the partgas.
Okay.
I mean, I'm surprised you had a hard because I really liked that EP.
I was that was that was, well, I liked a great cliff, Maduro, but it was going to rank higher
than that because I, this has just such a unique flavor.

(53:16):
And it is just, it's good.
And then I'm looking at the EP.
Then I'm looking at the EP and maybe, you know, you know, honest, if I'm being honest
about it, I kind of like this little better.
I'm shocked.

(53:37):
I am shocked.
I am as well.
And, but, but then I look at the rest of the list and I'm like, yeah, I know.
Yeah.
It doesn't beat those.
It doesn't beat those.
I am shocked that I put it in front of the EP, but I did.
It's just.
Wow.
I shocked myself.
Nice.
Much like installing a ceiling fan without turning off the breaker.

(54:02):
I've done crap like that.
We all have.
I can't find which breaker turns anyway.
Let's not go there.
One, ten tingles a little bit.
It's a little shocking and tingles.
Two, twenty.
That hurts.
Yeah, go, don't.
Yeah.
I just use the wood ladder, not the aluminum ladder that day.

(54:23):
I'm the same.
Or a battle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do that.
Yeah, no, I was surprised where I placed it.
I am too.
Wow.
But it, I'm glad I was able to have brought this to you.
Yeah.
And that's, that's just considering the flavor.
That is not considering the fact that every time I take a drag of this thing, I think

(54:48):
of Clint Eastwood.
I bet that factored in.
I've not turned it on about boy data.
No, just like the price.
Just like the price I was going just off of flavor.
Okay.
So I choose to believe you that.
Oh, thank you.
But amazing.
What are you, what are you, what are great upside from a, you know, a, a memory from your

(55:17):
past.
Yeah.
To being.
So good.
You know, twenty years after the fact.
So thirty.
Thirty years after the fact.
So awesome.
While Turkey 101, what a classic, right?
Oh, yeah.

(55:38):
Absolute classic.
And like we said, you know, go, go check out episode one thirty three way back in March
of twenty twenty one.
Go check that episode out.
And I mean, Turkey 101 is a classic.
And at this price point could be on everyone's show.

(56:00):
Absolutely.
Yeah, you can mention.
But guess what?
You can also say, oh, thanks a little.
Hey, yeah, yeah, bracket play.
Yeah.
Okay.
Happy event.
Thank you.